May 26, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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| This whole issue of the Biden family, uh, their quote, secret empire, if you will, or what I call the Biden family syndicate, a lot of it started by one guy by the name of Peter Schweitzer back in 2018, right here on this program where he began the process of exposing and chronicling uh all of these issues with the Bidens and their foreign business uh dealings. | |
| And he did it with the release of his book Secret Empires. | |
| We launched it on radio and TV that day for him, and uh he's been right ever since, and he's gone even deeper since then as well. | |
| Uh he's with the government accountability institute as well as Eric Eggers, Peter Schweitzer and Eric, welcome back to the program. | |
| Thanks, Sean. | |
| Great to be with you. | |
| Uh Peter Schweitzer, let's first get your reaction to today, and that is that the Biden's using this web of shell companies to conceal all this foreign cash and bank records. | |
| And uh I think we knew that Joe knew all about this when he bragged about you know withholding a billion dollars in Ukraine in exchange for uh a prosecutor to be fired who was investigating his son who went on GMA and admitted he had no experience. | |
| Yeah, Sean, I mean, look, um, what this committee is able to do is use its subpoena power to collect uh details and records and evidence for what you and I talked about five years ago. | |
| Um, and it's all being confirmed. | |
| What I think we all have to keep in mind is that this committee's at the beginning of their investigation. | |
| What they're talking about are really drawn from four banks. | |
| They there are twelve banks that are believed to be linked to the Bidens that the committee has asked for uh subpoena financial records from. | |
| They're only talking about four banks routing right now. | |
| There are another eight, so I think we need to keep in mind this is not the committee sort of shooting everything that they have. | |
| Uh, this is the beginning of an investigation, and I think we're gonna see a continued accumulation of money, the amount of money. | |
| Uh, they say right now it's a ten million. | |
| I think it's gonna be double, triple that amount. | |
| And I think some of the other entities uh in China are going to emerge. | |
| Right now they're talking about CEFC, this energy company, um, and the chairman of that, Chairman Yi. | |
| Uh but I think we're going to see the other deals that we've talked about. | |
| BHR, the private equity firm, uh, some of the dealings they had with Henry Zhao and others. | |
| Those are gonna come forward. | |
| So I applaud the committee for what they're doing, and I think people just need to be patient as they accumulate more material, and they actually start getting people on the record uh that they subpoena to appear before the committee. | |
| When they talked about money today, I did think about you, Peter Schweitzer, because you talked about very early on a billion dollar deal with with Hunter uh ten days after a trip uh to Asia and stopping in China with uh with his father, a billion-dollar deal with the Bank of China that ultimately became a 1.5 billion dollar deal with the Bank of China. | |
| They're only talking about 10 million here. | |
| Uh We have discussed uh a hundred thousand dollar shopping spree with a Chinese national. | |
| We talked about a five million dollar no interest forgivable loan. | |
| Are those figures correct? | |
| Uh do you believe that eventually they'll get to those numbers? | |
| Yes, I think they will. | |
| Now, the the billion and a half deal, uh, let's remember, and I know during the the 2020 campaign, this got uh misstated sometimes on the campaign stump. | |
| It was never the case that Hunter Biden received a billion and a half dollars. | |
| Hunter Biden was given an ownership stake in a private equity fund that was funded by the Chinese government. | |
| The Chinese government put a billion and a half dollars into it. | |
| Hunter Biden was made a partner, even though he had no background and experience in finance, and his ownership stake of that management company has been estimated by the University of Chicago Business School to be worth about 20 million dollars. | |
| Now, was that was that equity share turned over to the the guy that paid his tax bills, I believe 2.8 million dollars? | |
| Well, that's one of the things that is being explored. | |
| There's been a debate about when Hunter sold his stake, if in fact he sold his stake, whether he show sold his stake uh to uh the lawyer who's paying his bills at fair market price. | |
| We don't know yet. | |
| I think that's one of the things that the committee will get. | |
| But to your larger point, you're exactly right. | |
| We know that the, for example, the the the Henry Zhao wiring a five million dollar payment to Hunter Biden. | |
| We know about that because it was on the laptop. | |
| And the wire transfers released released by the U.S. Senate in 2020 confirm that. | |
| The House committee has not gotten to that transaction yet. | |
| They have not got to the BHR private equity fund. | |
| So, yes, we are going to see right now they say they're at 10 million. | |
| I believe we're going to get to 30 million or so by the time all of this is done. | |
| And again, as the committee emphasized, so important, Sean, there is no discernible business service that the Biden's provided for this. | |
| Five million dollars would be sent as quote unquote good faith money, but nothing would ever result from it. | |
| No business was set up, no joint venture was set up, and that's what I think the committee's wise to keep returning to. | |
| Why are these individuals sending the Biden's money? | |
| They're not stupid. | |
| They don't hand out money for no reason. | |
| That's what the Biden's the onuses should be on the Bidens to explain. | |
| What were you getting paid to do? | |
| All right, Eric Eargers, let me bring you into all of this. | |
| I want to know what Joe knew and what he did when he knew it. | |
| I want to know exactly how much money the Biden family syndicate did with every country, how much was the deal worth, how much did they profit from all of this? | |
| Uh, did Joe, in fact, benefit financially? | |
| Did he take any specific actions that benefited the countries they were doing business with? | |
| Um, because I mean, obviously we can't have a compromise president of the United States, but I would argue that was proven when Joe bragged about the Ukrainian firing of the prosecutor. | |
| Eric. | |
| Yeah, it would be ideal if we didn't have a compromised president of the United States. | |
| Unfortunately, I think reality is the opposite of that. | |
| And far be it from me to disagree with Peter Schweitzer, the president of the nonprofit. | |
| Yeah, you're about to get fired if you do that. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| But I I do think that we do know what the Biden business model was. | |
| Uh they were selling access to the White House, and I think they were essentially legitimizing the shady operations and the countries that Hunter Biden was doing business with. | |
| We know from an email that Hunter Biden sent to Devin Archer that when Joe Biden gave a speech in Ukraine and encouraged Ukraine to invest in their own natural energy and not be reliant on Russia for their gas. | |
| This is happening at the same time that Hunter's being paid by, guess what? | |
| A Ukrainian natural energy company. | |
| And so this and then Hunter Biden takes that clip. | |
| He sends it to Devon that let's make sure that the people that are paying us know that this is how we add value. | |
| It's not an accident that Hunter Biden does business in the nether regions of the international business world. | |
| He's not doing business in France. | |
| He's not doing business in Canada. | |
| He's doing business in Ukraine, China, and Romania. | |
| These are places that just by showing up in a place near Hunter Biden, or excuse me, near President Biden or Vice President Biden, helps legitimize their operation. | |
| And as it relates to has Joe Biden profited personally from it, well, think about it this way. | |
| Joe Biden vacations in mansions. | |
| He has beach homes. | |
| This guy's been in the public service on the taxpayer dole for 40 plus years. | |
| Yet he lives like a billionaire. | |
| And I think the reason why that's happened is because the more that we know about the Biden financial empire, here's what we know. | |
| The amount of money continues to increase. | |
| The number of Bidens who personally profited continues to increase, and Joe's role only continues to be closer to it. | |
| You noted that Joe Biden lied initially when said he had no idea about Hunter Biden's business deals. | |
| He's told lie after lie consistently. | |
| And so I think that the next big lie will be that Joe Biden didn't personally profit from it. | |
| And I think as Peter noted, we're at the beginning of this process, and the more documents that are uncovered, the closer Joe Biden gets, the more lucrative the financial arrangements have become, and I think unfortunately the worse it looks for the president of the United States. | |
| Well, I think we need to know what did the Biden family do for all these millions of dollars, especially when they had no experience? | |
| You know, why so many LLCs? | |
| Why was money being funneled to children? | |
| Peter Schweitzer. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's exactly right. | |
| I mean, what we see with the Biden family is that money's fungible, it gets moved around. | |
| We know for a fact that when Joe Biden was vice president of the United States, Hunter was being paid by foreign entities, and that Hunter Biden was paying some of his father's bills to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. | |
| That's just I think illustrative of the fact that money moves around the family in such a way. | |
| And I think that you know it's a little bit off base, Sean. | |
| People are looking for the quid pro quo. | |
| And corruption doesn't always work that way. | |
| I mean, corrupt people sometimes engage in a quid pro quo. | |
| You're kind of stupid if you do, because that's the legal standard, and it's easy to prove you're going to jail. | |
| But sometimes corruption is more of a retainer. | |
| You're not paying for a specific act, but you're paying for access, you're paying for generally favorable treatment. | |
| And I think if you look at Joe Biden's positions as it relates to China, Ukraine, uh, some of the dealings even with Russia going back, you find that Joe Biden took positions that were beneficial to people that were close to uh uh you know his son Hunter and his business partners. | |
| And so the the sort of the gold standard that that uh Democrats are setting, prove the specific thing that Joe Biden did a ridiculous standard. | |
| That's not how corruption works. | |
| It's oftentimes more of a retainer model than it is a quid pro quo. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Uh you know, I I look at all of this here, and what you've got a document showing 10 million and farm money flowing like a river. | |
| You know, why so many shell corporations or shell companies? | |
| Look, there are real LLCs. | |
| Um once I was accused of having a shell corporation. | |
| No, it was a real LLC that had my real money invested in it. | |
| These these companies all seem to only have been created for the financial benefit of the Biden family and members of the family, and they seem to get transferred from one to the other to the other as a means of sort of obstructing or hiding where the money is actually originally coming from, Eric Eggers. | |
| No, that's absolutely right. | |
| I think Chairman Comer said today, this is not the way legitimate people do business. | |
| So why would the business, why would the Biden set up their business enterprise this way? | |
| And this is unfortunately more concrete evidence of what we talked about before on your program, Sean, of how the Bidens go out of their way to intentionally obscure and make harder to track the flow of money from foreign governments, foreign businesses into the Biden personal family fortune. | |
| You know, I told I talked before about how I think when Joe Biden was vice president, Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, and one of the books that Peter Schweitz has done is Clinton Cash, and he documented the flow of international money into the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation while she's Secretary of State and Bill is being paid speeches. | |
| And I think the Biden's learned from that, because we talked in Clinton Cash about what we call the Clinton blur, the overlap of all these interests. | |
| They're the Biden blur, and they do it on purpose. | |
| We now know from emails that we've obtained that when the Biden Center was being set up at the University of Delaware, and they have foreign money coming in to fund that, and some of that money is going to go for salaries and things of that nature. | |
| The Biden's are emailing about how let's make sure Joe's name is Not on any of these documents because then you might have additional disclosure requirements. | |
| So they at every turn have actually been quite shrewd about obscuring and hiding just how involved and who involved in the Biden family and how much money they're getting to all to the tune of protecting the one engine that drives the Biden economy, and that's Joe Biden. | |
| I will take a quick break, come back more with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers of the Government Accountability Institute, 800 941 Shauna's on number. | |
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| We'll continue. | |
| We continue with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers. | |
| You might remember Peter Schweitzer in 2018, right here on this show, launched his book, Secret Empires, uh, where he began this narrative about the Biden family syndicate. | |
| Where do you think this goes? | |
| Last question I'll throw to Peter Schweitzer. | |
| Where is this going to end up? | |
| Uh I think we're going to see more revelations, and I think we're going to see a lot of heat put on the Department of Justice because we've got whistleblowers coming out from the IRS and from elsewhere that clearly indicate the Department of Justice has not investigated this. | |
| When we first talked about this, Sean, five years ago, shortly after that, you called for an independent counsel because your argument was, I think quite rightly so. | |
| Can you really get a fair investigation here of the Biden family? | |
| And I think the evidence is though you can't. | |
| I still think we need to have an independent council. | |
| I don't think we're going to get one, but we finally have a Congress that is prepared to hold the Department of Justice and the Biden's seat to the fire, and that's something Do you think this now may alter what we have been anticipating now for weeks, and that is the indictment against Hunter Biden uh on felony uh tax charges and a felony gun charge. | |
| Do you think this now uh puts that indictment on hold while they look deeper into this? | |
| In other words, are they forced to? | |
| I think so. | |
| I think it's it's going to become embarrassing now to the Department of Justice because they were able to shield most of the information from the American people, and they could argue, well, we did something, right? | |
| We got them on tax charges. | |
| But when the American people see the flow of money, the fact that it is it is being provided, it's being hidden by the Bidens and who that source of money is coming from. | |
| I think it's going to be very hard for DOJ to continue down the path, which was we're going to ding him on felony tax evasion on this gun charge, but we're not going to get to the heart of the matter, which is the flow of foreign money and the fact that the Biden family and Joe benefited from it. | |
| Unbelievable. | |
| Uh you were right in 2018, and here we are, Peter Schweitzer, thank you. | |
| Uh Secret Empires is the book. | |
| I think you have a follow-up book coming out next year, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Yeah, January of next year. | |
| That's right. | |
| We look forward to the uh the first interview, Peter. | |
| Uh why ruin a great tradition. | |
| Uh anyway, Eric Eggers and uh Peter Schweitzer, thank you both. | |
| When we come back, we'll hit the phones 800-941 Sean if you want to be a part of the program. | |
| Joining us now is Adam Angievsky. | |
| He's the CEO and founder of OpenTheBooks.com. | |
| His organization lets you, the American people, the American taxpayer, know exactly what's happening with your tax dollars uh and the government and how they have mismanaged and misappropriated uh all of the money that you send in. | |
| Uh anyway, he joins us, he put out a new report, and we appreciate him being with us. | |
| Uh, you call it the militarization of the federal bureaucracy. | |
| How are you? | |
| It's great to be here, Sean. | |
| Thanks for having me on. | |
| As subject matter experts on this specific issue since 2016, when we put a piece co-authored with myself and Dr. Tom Coburn, the former U.S. Senator from Oklahoma in the Wall Street Journal. | |
| That piece, many people still remember it. | |
| It was entitled, Why Does the IRS Need Guns? | |
| And then over the years we've updated that. | |
| And so Gates did take our figures there. | |
| You've repeated them accurately, and you know, where is it written that the IRS needs the equivalent number of special agents to a U.S. Army brigade? | |
| This stuff's getting a little out of control. | |
| Well, yeah, a little out of control. | |
| Why don't you explain to people some of the discoveries that might shock them? | |
| Because I read the report, and a lot of it shocked me. | |
| So since 2006, we took a look at the 103 federal agencies outside of the Department of Defense that spent 3.7 billion dollars on guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment. | |
| Now, Sean, there are 27 of those agencies that are traditional law enforcement. | |
| They're under the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security. | |
| But there are 76 rank and file administrative, general administrative civil agencies like the IRS, like the Education Department of Education, like Social Security Administration, the Department of Transportation, like Veterans Affairs, like Health and Human Services for Crying Out Loud, and like the IRS. | |
| And today, we've quantified there are more federal agents at 200,000 with arrest and firearm authority outside of the Department of Defense than there are United States Marines at 186,000. | |
| So what does the IRS need weaponry for? | |
| Do you know? | |
| Because I don't know. | |
| Well, I you know, every year we ask them, we ask their spokesman to go on the record to justify their expenditures. | |
| Uh and here's here's what they said. | |
| Very vanilla, back in January of 2021. | |
| They said IRS special agents have been using weapons throughout their history, they've consistently found themselves investigating the most dangerous criminals involved in organized crime, drugs, and gangs. | |
| And they went on a little bit. | |
| But the fact of the matter is that since 2006, two through the first quarter of this year, so we've got updated numbers. | |
| The IRS has spent 35.2 million dollars on guns, ammunition, and military style equipment. | |
| And Sean, since the pandemic, and here's the breaking news for your program here today. | |
| Uh since the pandemic started, the IRS has spent 10 million of it purchasing guns, ammunition, and military style equipment. | |
| They've spent 1.2 million dollars, for instance, on ballistic shields, another 1.3 million on various other gear for criminal investig investigation agents, very non-transparent about what that purchased. | |
| They spent a half million dollars on Smith and Wesson rifles, half million dollars on duty tactical lighting, half million dollars on Baretta shotguns, and they have so much gear, these guys. | |
| They have so much gear, they spent 354,000 on their tactical gear bags. | |
| I mean, that is unbelievable to me. | |
| And by the way, we're talking about equipment that is not available to the the general public. | |
| I have a gun collection, and I need a professional gunsmith and a professional law enforcement person to look at every one of my collection and and determine that it is legal in the state of New York. | |
| They're very, very strict, and I follow the law to the letter. | |
| But I mean, I I I have to hire these people just to make sure most of the changes they make are cosmetic. | |
| But I digress a little bit here. | |
| There really isn't a need for them when we have other law enforcement agencies. | |
| When we have an FBI, for example, I guess, you know, maybe they're spread thin, they're too busy talking to big tech companies, but I can't think of any scenario under which the IRS would need this type of weaponry. | |
| Well, you're right, and the scale is all wrong here. | |
| I want to put it in in context, Sean, for the listening audience. | |
| So right now, the IRS employs two thousand one hundred special agents. | |
| These are the agents that are armed, they have arrest and firearm authority. | |
| That is going to increase by 600 by the end of the year to 2,700. | |
| Uh to put that in uh perspective, we took a look at the head counts across the country in local police departments. | |
| There's 12,000 three hundred local police departments across America. | |
| And the IRS on head counts of their special agents by the end of the year would be in the top 50 largest equivalent police departments in the country. | |
| That's what you're dealing with here. | |
| Let me ask, because there are 76 agencies that are pushing like regulatory agencies like the EPA, the Social Security Administration, Veterans Affairs, the IRS, Health and Human Services. | |
| Uh, do they all have weapons too? | |
| They do. | |
| They do. | |
| As a matter of fact, Health and Human Services, you know, Trump, they're they're supposed to be running the soft social safety net in this country. | |
| So why do they have 500 special agents? | |
| Well, according to the latest data, you know, that we've compiled at OpenTheBooks.com all the way back to 2006, HHS has purchased a stunning amount, 154 million dollars on guns, ammunition, and military style equipment. | |
| Did you know that the National Institutes of Health, they have their own police force with over 100 police officers over at the NIH. | |
| That's actually bigger than 95% of the local police departments across the country. | |
| I mean, that is insane. | |
| Now, for example, I read in your report this this can't be true. | |
| Tell me this is not true. | |
| That there are now more federal agents with arrest and firearm authority, 200,000 of them, then we have U.S. Marines, 186,000? | |
| Is that possible? | |
| So think about this. | |
| You know, we the Biden administration can't secure our nation's borders. | |
| And they have 200,000 federal agents with arrest and firearm authority. | |
| There's only 186,000 Marines. | |
| So it's not a question of budget. | |
| It is purely and simply a question of political will. | |
| So if you look at the years and the purchase years, it seems to have taken a massive bump up in the year 2021 under Joe Biden, as a matter of fact, by the largest amount going back to 2006, uh, which you put in your report and a graph. | |
| Why did it go up so high in Joe Biden's first year in office? | |
| Well, that's the question we have. | |
| And I think you have a smart listening audience, and they can uh they can come to their own conclusions, Sean. | |
| But, you know, who just who is the IRS preparing to battle? | |
| You know, when they already had 4,500 guns for 2100 special agents, that's more than enough. | |
| Why did they have to spend a half million dollars purchasing more AK uh uh AR 15 style Smith and Weston rifles? | |
| You know, they're not in a war. | |
| They're their rifles, uh, you know, these rifles, their old rifles were just fine. | |
| Why do they need to keep arming up? | |
| So those are a lot of the questions that we have. | |
| Look, I think, you know, I think that the weaponization of the House committees should should call the IRS chief back. | |
| They need to start exploring this issue uh with the IRS. | |
| You know, the last time I'll I will bring this up with the Judiciary Committee and and on that committee of Jim Jordan and Matt Cates, who has talked about it in the past. | |
| I'll bring it up. | |
| You know, I mean, they're spending money on tactical combat gear. | |
| Uh they're spending money on a ton of money on ammunition and new guns. | |
| Why do they need night vision equipment? | |
| Because they're spending money on that. | |
| Uh, why are they spending money on virtual reality simulation training? | |
| I mean, this is sophisticated, you know, these are sophisticated tools of warfare. | |
| They they really are. | |
| So we've been able to determine in years prior that the special agents over at Health and Human Services were trained by the very same contractors that train our U.S. military special forces. | |
| At an undisclosed location in the Beltway, they actually have a training facility that's state of the art. | |
| And so we found that HHS special agents, they get, you know, night vision equipment, they they had six figures worth of virtual reality simulation training. | |
| They have ballistic plates, body armor, tactical combat gear, about a half million dollars of that. | |
| Uh, you know, brand new guns. | |
| I mean, and we see this playing out across six rank and file traditional civil authority, general administrative authority agencies. | |
| All right, quick break more with Adam Angievsky on the other side about why our IRS and and other agencies are armed to the hilt. | |
| Then we'll get to your calls. | |
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| We continue with Adam Angiewski. | |
| Now he is exposed. | |
| Why are all these federal agencies like the IRS and Health and Human Services and others, why do they have all of this weaponry that they have when we have federal law enforcement? | |
| Now, explain this part to me. | |
| Isn't this happening simultaneously while the same left-wing liberal Democrats uh are the ones pushing defund dismantle uh the police and no bail laws? | |
| Is that happening simultaneously? | |
| Well, it is, Sean. | |
| They want to take away your guns, but government is is certainly arming up. | |
| You know, uh there was a congressional hearing where one of the chiefs they couldn't even explain what an assault rifle was. | |
| They didn't know the definition of that. | |
| Yeah, we played that that happened again last week, the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, yeah. | |
| But the IRS. | |
| By the way, and then they had somebody that couldn't define what a woman was, so I don't know what's going on there. | |
| So the IRS, they you know, they don't know how to define the weapon, but they're buying them. | |
| As you mentioned, there's 15 submachine guns locked in their in their basement. | |
| Uh how does that make any sense? | |
| Uh, just for the benefit of people that didn't hear this, uh, here is the ATF director saying he doesn't hold himself as a technical expert. | |
| He's the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and firearms. | |
| He's asked a simple question. | |
| Uh, what is uh what an what is an assault weapon? | |
| Listen. | |
| Could you in 15 seconds would you define an assault weapon for me? | |
| So if you go Fifteen seconds, I'll just interrupt you. | |
| So I'll go shorter than that because I I honestly I do think that's a if Congress wishes to take that up, I think Congress would have to do the work. | |
| But we would be there to provide technical assistance. | |
| I, unlike you, I'm not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be, but we have people at ATF who can talk about uh uh velocity of firearms, what damage different kinds of firearms cause. | |
| So that whatever determination you you chose to make would be an informed one. | |
| I mean, he so he's asked the question, he doesn't know how the hell did he become the ATF director? | |
| Well, this is why we need congressional hearings, and if you could carry that forward, Sean, there is precedent on this. | |
| Um after that Wall Street Journal piece that Coburn and I authored in 2016, then chairman of the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Jason Chaffetz, you know Jason Chaffetz. | |
| He held hearings on this, and he found the asset inventory of the rank and file federal agencies were a mess. | |
| Their gun lockers were a mess. | |
| They were losing weapons, including Uzi's over at the Department of Homeland Security. | |
| Kate Steinley, you remember that beautiful girl that got shot on the San Francisco pier in 2015. | |
| Well, she was shot after an officer at the Office of Land Management lost his weapon. | |
| That was the pistol used in her murder. | |
| So these things have real world consequences. | |
| This is a very revealing report. | |
| Um we're gonna take the whole report and put it up on Hannity.com so people can read it themselves. | |
| Uh I would bet that every American that hears this is going to be a little shocked and and horrified by hearing it. | |
| Uh, we really appreciate your time. | |
| Uh anyway, Adam Angievsky, thank you so much for being with us. | |
| We appreciate it. | |
| Sean, thank you. | |
| All right, eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program. |
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