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May 6, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Title 42 Going Away - May 5th, Hour 1

Joe Pags fills in for Sean and discusses just and now, with Title 42 set to expire, the border crisis is really bad...and the left is just ignoring the signs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Amazing as always to sit in from my friend Sean Hannity.
Sean grabbed the day off today.
It's your boy Joe Pagli Rullo, Joe Pags.
And man, we've got a lot to talk about.
What I love about the open, first of all, it gets me charged up with the song.
But you've got my orcus in there.
And you've got to love where he's just beside himself.
I can't believe anybody's suggesting anything else.
The border is not open.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, got a little update for you.
I'm here in uh the San Antonio area of Texas is where I emanate.
And um, yeah, not very far from the border.
You've got anywhere depending on who you believe, you've got anywhere between 30,000 and 700,000 illegal aliens ready to bust across the border.
And keep in mind, the whole idea of asylum is bogus.
It's a made up thing by the left because asylum really just says that you have the ability to get away from persecution or prosecution or su or certain death or war.
Um you have the right to go to the next free country.
Well, they're they're all going through Mexico to get here.
And guess what?
Mexico is allegedly a free country.
They're supposed to stop in that country.
Not come here.
There's no right in some world order that says everybody gets to go to America because we say so.
So Majorcus is lying.
The border is an open sieve.
Six point three million people have come here illegally just since Biden took office.
Yet you have my orcas just last week in front of some panel either in the House or the Senate, and he was asked about it.
He said, I'm here to testify, and my testimony is the border is secure.
Like, what?
What are you talking about?
But then the very next line he says, I don't wonder if you remember hearing the hearing him say this.
Very next line is, but we're working on security.
Or increasing security.
Okay, the border is secure, but I'm working on increasing security.
The word secure has a definition.
It's finite.
Is it open?
Is it porous?
Are people coming through?
Or is it secure?
I've secured your bag, sir.
Um, I've secured my home.
I secured my car by locking it.
I'm not going to go back and get some more security on it.
I just secured it.
You might say, well, you can add an alarm.
Okay.
I secured my car and I locked the doors and added the alarm.
But I'm still working on security.
What?
It's a misnomer.
But they say things that they think those who generally align with them.
Well, well, no, no, my orca said the border's secure.
And listen, good news, he's still working on security.
And then you've you've got him now saying, of course the border is not open.
Yes, it is.
Today, right before we started the show, I heard a soundbite from my orcas who is making a trip to the border again, where he'll probably will see the back's uh border uh border patrol agent because they turned their backs on him last time.
And he said something like, It's a regional issue, should have a regional solution.
Why would he say that?
Well, think about it.
He's saying it because Eric Adams in New York is really angry that he got like 50,000 illegal aliens.
We we're getting that probably per day starting May 11th here in the state of Texas.
Lori Lightfoot's mad, she got a few.
You've got Bowser in Washington, D.C., she's mad, got a few.
So instead of saying sanctuary states that want to offer free reign to illegal aliens, instead of saying, yes, send them there because they want them.
No, we're supposed to say, well, they shouldn't get them because they're not in the region where they're coming in.
So a city like Chicago or New York or or Washington, D.C. or whatever, those cities shouldn't get them, even though they have much deeper pockets and much more ability to handle those illegally coming here.
Let's let Del Rio, Texas do it, which is a tiny town of Texas farmers.
Let's let El Paso do it.
Let's let McCallan, Texas do it, or Brownsville.
Let's let them do it.
Where they have no resources.
And unless there's a visit by the president, you'll see that the streets are flooded with people who came here illegally.
Now, Corinne Jean-Pierre, who is um a diversity hire, the first day she took the job, she said, before we get going here, it's very important that I that I mention that I'm a female, black, an immigrant, and I'm gay.
And I'm going, well, why is that important?
Can you do the job?
Because honestly, you wouldn't love Sean Hannity as much as you do if he couldn't do the job very well.
Doesn't matter what his background is, doesn't matter what he looks like.
What matters is what is he saying?
Does he say it?
Does it get you?
Does he entertain you?
Does he give you three hours of great programming?
And the answer is yes.
That's why he has the job.
If you never saw him and never knew his ethnic background, it wouldn't matter.
Because he does the job very well.
In this country, we've never, ever, ever, never said, well, because of my skin tone, I should have this position.
And I think that that was laying down the gauntlet.
Because I'll make fun of her every day.
I don't care what her background is, doesn't matter what her ancestry is to me.
But I think that was laying down the gauntlet to the media.
Don't you dare question me.
Don't you dare get any back talk.
Like Peter Ducey from Fox News the other day dared ask her a question about a number she made up that somehow Biden had decreased immigration by ninety percent, which is just a lie.
It's not even close, it's the opposite.
But when he asked the question, she started jumping in and saying, Can we can we can we drop the dramatics?
Can we not have the dramatics?
He's like, What are you talking about?
I'm just asking a question.
You're not supposed to be able to question her because of these four intersectional things she mentioned.
Well, I question her every day.
And in fact, here's a soundbite from Corrine John Pierre, who is asked very simply, what's the plan on May 11th?
Now, May 11th, Title 42 goes away.
Title 42 is a Jimmy Carter era title that actually said we're going to protect our border and Americans from people bringing illness and sickness across the border.
It was reinstated by Trump because COVID.
Which means you could stop anybody at the border and say, listen, we don't know if you've got COVID or not.
Go home.
Get out of here.
Since he took office, Biden's been trying to get rid of it.
Now the Biden administration is acting like some court order is making them get rid of it, which is just a lie.
It's simply not true.
But they're going to keep on saying it.
And notice that she and Biden and others keep on saying they've got the tools in the toolbox.
And they're doing the work.
And they really care about the border since day one in trying to take care of the border.
But these MAGA Republicans won't do something about the border.
It's up to them.
And Trump ruined the border.
In fact, he obliterated the border.
The border is bad because of Trump, where we had historic lows in illegal immigrants, and now we've got historic highs.
What they're saying doesn't make sense when you look at the numbers.
But here's a reporter asking Corinne John Pierre, what's going to happen on May 11th?
I can't say what it's going to look like after uh after May 11th, but what I can say is that this is an administration that has taken the challenges that we see at the border very seriously since day one.
Ah, since day one, they've taken them very seriously.
Now the follow-up should be, well, great.
What have you done to take it seriously?
Or the follow-up should be, what steps since day one has this president taken?
Because I think Corrine Jon Pierre sometimes thinks she is the president.
She's not.
She's just the spokesperson.
She's the mouthpiece for the White House, therefore for the president, who I don't think she ever even sees.
But then a little bit more of an in-depth answer.
Maybe she'll give us a little bit more insight into what's going to happen on May 11th.
She keeps saying when when Title 42 lifts, it's lifting because Biden tried to lift it from day one.
Title 42 is ending next week.
How confident is the president that the fixes that he's put in place are going to hold, given that we're already seeing, you know, strains in the system.
So let me first say that look, as you know, we have been putting forth uh policies and programs for the past several months, uh uh kind of uh heading into May 11th and understanding, right?
That Title 42 is go is going to lift.
Immediately the journalist should have said, Wait, wait, wait, well, what policies have been putting in place?
What do you mean?
Because they say, as you know, we've we've done this, this, this, and this.
And I would have said, uh, what I know is you haven't done any of that.
But the re the the reporters will not challenge her, probably because of what she said on day one.
Let me pick it up.
And so you've heard from the the uh uh Department of Homeland's uh security, you've heard from the State Department, they just held a press conference last week, and so you we have laid out uh what the tools in our toolbox that the president is able to use uh to deal with this issue to deal with the challenges that we're seeing at the border.
Uh and this is something that the president has been uh taking very seriously from the beginning of his administration.
So she's got the toolbox, and she's laying out the tools.
Now I've been looking for this toolbox for two and a half years.
I can't find it.
I don't know what the tools are.
Then she goes back to the old standby, you know, the president's been working on this since day one.
Day one, he changed the policies of enforcement on the border.
Day one, people started coming across with t-shirts on that said, thank you, Joe Biden.
Day one, they said everything Trump was doing, which which was basically going by the books, the immigration laws passed in the nineteen eighties.
We're just gonna do it by the book.
They know it was working, they wanted this Flood of illegal aliens to come across the border.
There is no toolbox.
Biden has not worked on this from day one.
My favorite thing, and I don't want the soundbite racked up, but my favorite thing that she says often is day one, the president pushed legislation, offered up legislation, and the Republicans turned it down.
They won't do their jobs.
Now, a little bit again, civics, I don't think is our number one job anymore in this country.
We used to learn about it.
I don't think we're teaching it anymore in schools.
But here's the way it works, boys and girls.
Bills are passed by the House and Senate.
If it's a money bill, it starts in the House.
The Senate has to convene.
They have to agree on it.
Then they send it to the president.
The president of the United States doesn't sponsor legislation, doesn't write legislation, doesn't send legislation into the House and have Republicans cancel it.
Nothing like that happens.
He didn't offer any plan.
Then they'll say, well, it's a comprehensive plan.
Well, we already have comprehensive laws when it comes to immigration.
What was more comprehensive about your plan?
The whole thing will make your head explode if you don't take a breath, calm down and listen to the words coming out of their mouths.
We've got a problem.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we've got a problem.
It's that Title 42 is going away May 11th.
And again, let me just reiterate what I said.
The low number is there are 30,000 people rented across the border, and I believe El Paso.
That can't handle it.
The high number is 700,000.
And once Title 42 goes away, what do you think is going to happen?
And you might respond, hey Pags, they're sending 1,500 army troops down there.
Great.
Well armed, killing machines to fight wars to preserve freedom, liberty, and our constitution.
What are they going to be doing down there?
Well, Corrine John Pierre the other day said they're going to be working at the warehouse and doing some administrative stuff.
So why send them?
So you can say you sent them?
Because they're not going to do anything to as far as enforcement goes.
And as much as I love my governor, Greg Gabbott, I think he's a great governor.
This whole exclamation of an emergency in Texas, we've done nothing when it comes to enforcement and stopping people coming across the border.
Nothing.
Nada, Niente, Nunca, Zip.
We've done nothing.
Yet we will say, well, the Texas National Guard's there.
The DPS is there.
Good.
Start arresting some asses and then send them back across the border.
Literally walk them across the border and say, hey, head south.
Have a nice day.
Until we do that, all of this is just words.
All this is just stuff.
And it's about to get exponentially worse.
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Friend taking a day off.
And we're talking about Title 42 going away.
A lot of you know this already because you'll hear my show.
It's 6 to 9 p.m. Eastern Time.
Uh we've got a lot of stations.
Nothing like Sean.
I mean, Sean's like the biggest show on the planet.
But um I'm here in Texas, and here in Texas, we're seeing it in real time, what's happening across the border.
We're seeing jobs go away.
By the way, what they're doing is NGOs, non-governmental organizations, are meeting with these people now in Central America and in Mexico, signing them up for this so-called parole program by by asking for asylum, and they're coming to the border as legal entrance now.
So think about this.
Six point three million since Biden took office have come across illegally that we know of.
Now tons are coming across, and they're calling them legal, they're not even counting them.
That's really happening right now.
And then you have people like Eric Adams in New York when you send a busload there, who's now saying, well, they're only attacking black mayors.
Shut up.
I mean, honest to God, if you want to be a sanctuary city, be a sanctuary city.
You want to be that guy, you want to be the savior of everybody, be that guy, be the savior.
Don't walk around and act like everything is somehow oppressing you.
Dummy, you're the mayor of the largest city in the country.
How did that happen if we're so freaking racist?
So let's get over it.
Um it's uh again, Sean's normal number, 800 nine four one 7326-800941 Sean.
I'm gonna have Victor Avula on at the bottom of the hour.
You might remember Victor Avula, he and his partner, Jime Zapata, were attacked by a drug cartel in a gunfight in Mexico several years ago.
Zapata was killed, and Victor was shot many times.
He survived, obviously, I've got him on the program.
But what they found there was that he and Jaime Zapata were shot with fast and furious guns.
I'm not going to get into the weeds with it.
Let me just say this Very clearly.
This was Eric Holder and Barack Obama's system, their scheme to smuggle weapons into Mexico.
Those weapons got in the hands of cartels.
Now, allegedly the idea was we're going to smuggle guns into Mexico to show how easy it is.
Well, they did.
And Americans died because of that.
Well, he's now running for U.S. House.
He's on the border in El Paso, going to tell us exactly what's going on there.
And uh it's great insight.
Because at the end of the day, if you don't really know what's going on there, you're gonna have to believe what you're hearing and seeing.
And I don't want you to do that.
If you believe what you're hearing and seeing, you're believing half of the deal.
All right.
Uh let me go to uh Sam in Atlanta.
Sam, what's going on?
Hi.
Oh, hi, can you hear me okay?
I can.
What's happened?
Got less than a minute, but it's all yours.
Yeah, I don't have any problem with the poorest border because we need these workers, it'll help our inflation.
And uh as far as crime rates go, when I look at when I have researched this issue, I found that our own indigenous population that's poor is far more uh criminal than these hardworking people coming across the border.
It's only gonna help our inflation.
So I don't understand why there's uh this emotional reaction to people pouring across the border.
Great.
Well, well, Sam, I gotta stop because I want to respond to you and I don't have a whole lot of time.
Tell me exactly how much lower the inflation is today, because of 6.3 million illegals coming across since Biden took office.
Go ahead.
Well, it's not lower and it Oh, weird.
But it's not as high as it could have been because it have been.
Well, right now it's around four last CPI was about five percent.
Right.
It could be double.
Could be ten percent if we didn't have all these people coming over.
Or it could be one point four, like uh like Trump had.
Uh, I I I can't hear you, Sam, because you won't shut up.
Here's the thing.
When Trump was in office, it was one point four percent inflation, and the border was locked down.
You could barely get through even begging.
You had to do it the legal way to get here.
We have verifiable proof by the numbers that what Trump was doing worked, what Biden is doing is not working economically, not on the border, and we don't need the workers because there are a lot of Americans that don't have jobs.
But I appreciate the call out of Atlanta.
It's uh Joe Pags in for Sean Hannity.
The numbers eight hundred nine four one seven three two six eight four uh eight hundred nine four one Sean.
Go to Joe Pags.com, J-O-E-P-A-G-S.c O M and check out what we're doing there as well.
Keep it here.
Keep it here.
Title 42 goes away in just a few days from now.
And when it does, you've got tens of thousands of people ready to barge right over the border, and there's not a whole lot we can do about it.
To that end, I wanted to bring uh Victor Avula back.
He is a former federal agent, he's also a guy running for U.S. uh um uh House of Representatives.
We'll talk about that in a minute.
Victor, how are you?
Good to see you again.
I'm doing good, Joe.
Thanks for having me back.
You're back and forth.
You're welcome.
You're back and forth to the border all the time.
You send me pictures, you're there with Brugman, he sends me videos, and there's uh it's it's worse than we even think.
I mean, it's so bad that MSNBC literally went to El Paso and record and reported the truth today about how bad it is in the streets.
The the city leadership there and and along Del Rio and Brownsville and McCallan everywhere, they are just completely demolished by these people coming across the border illegally.
And my okay's hasn't done anything.
The border patrol can't do anything, they won't let them.
Biden hasn't done anything, and Title 42 is going away in a few days.
What's gonna happen that day, Victor?
Is it really 30 or 40,000 waiting, waiting to come across?
Yeah, I'm I've been here in El Paso, Texas all week.
Been talking to a lot of border agents that are giving me a lot of information, Joe, and let me tell you they're they're trying to get ready for this.
But the first of all, the number they tell me is a minimum of 35,000 on the other side of El Paso in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, waiting to come in.
This is a uh b uh uh not the ones counting the ones that are already in downtown El Paso in the streets lining the streets uh uh around the church, uh seeking refuge and sanctuary from the church.
But um it's lawlessness what it is down there.
I didn't recognize this town that I was born and raised in and work a lot of my law enforcement career in.
It is lawlessness, and you're absolutely right.
It's the local uh elected officials as well that are welcoming this.
You know, El Paso set the uh uh the declaration of a state of emergency, but not for the reason that you and I would think.
It's because they want the money because they will allow these people in.
They're already gonna use two empty elementary schools in El Paso to house them.
So we're gonna give them more room, we're gonna house them, and instead of repelling them and sending them back.
Now, I'll I'll give you a really quick briefing of how this is gonna happen.
It's gonna be a lot, it's multifaceted and it's a little bit complicated, even for me that understands this.
But now the Border Patrol, after uh Title Forty Two is lifted, they're gonna be processing people.
But the processing here is gonna change.
These people will be issued an A number, which is an uh an administrative number, which is having not been happening before.
That means that they'll be tracking.
But again, not tracking for what you and think you and I think they would should be tracked for, but possibly to get benefits, work permits, and such.
Come on.
So they're gonna they're gonna be issued MTAs, a notice to appear.
Another group might be issued a net uh NTAOR, notice to appeal, uh appear uh and release on your own recognizes.
Some people will be sent back, some people will uh it's a mess, and it depends on where you come from, what country you're from, and also the key here is Mexico.
Mexico, for some reason, is dictating who they can and cannot take back.
Now, uh they'll take the Mexican and Central Americans, but uh we're talking about Venezuelans, which by the way, it's full of Venezuelans, Africans, uh uh Asians, uh, South Americans down here in El Paso already.
Mexico won't take them back, so you just can't report them back to Mexico, even though they're in been in Mexico for who knows how long.
Well, they won't take them back.
I want to stop you for a minute because at last we spoke and it's Victor Abula.
Uh what it what is the Congress uh website?
Is it Victor Ovula for Congress.com?
That's it.
At last we spoke, you said you believe the federal government has the right to stop people before they ever set foot in this country at gunpoint and turn them around.
And if they get here, you can take them back to the bridge and send them back south.
You still believe that?
Absolutely, and that that actually would be with the help of the state under a real declaration of invasion, but that's not happening.
Uh the 1500 troops, by the way, that they're sending down, right?
Uh, you would think, well, they're gonna they're gonna secure the border.
No, they're gonna be using some administrative role to put a barbed wire and and to uh uh alleviate some of the border patrol, but not to alleviate the border patrol to patrol the border, but alleviate border patrol to process because the facilities that they have here, quick numbers here, uh they could take about 6,000 in the two facilities, and that's already over capacity.
The capacity would be really about 2200.
Now, in the whole entire country right now, there's about close to 25,000 illegal aliens in custody.
That's over capacity of 18,000.
We're already beyond, we're already in invaded.
Uh the numbers are out of control.
So only imagine uh these people coming next week.
Now, here's what they're gonna do.
They're gonna group them and they're gonna put them in separate categories.
They're gonna uh the the single adult males, the family units, the the unaccompanied minors, the the parents with one child, all this thing, they're gonna try to separate them.
But one of the big problems here, Joe, is that it's not just border patrol.
It's a lot of people concentrate on them.
It's also ICE ERO, Enforcement Removal Operation, HHS, uh ORR, Office of Removal, uh Refugees and Resettlement.
They do not have the funding, they do not have the space, but you know why they don't have the funding and they don't have uh resources?
Because they're under ice and the left hates ice.
You as soon as you say the word ice, it's defundi, abolish ice.
Victor, what is the left ever said they want to replace ice with?
You can't defund ice, which is immigration and customs enforcement.
You can't defund them and have a secure border.
We're not a secure border as it is because ICE isn't allowed to do their job.
But what exactly would they have happened?
Just no border.
Well, and that's exactly what they did.
Instead, uh you know, they were abolished abolished and get rid of.
Well, they kind of realized they can't get rid of the agency and undo it.
Well, they just took away most of their funding and took away their authority.
And that's the key, not just ICE, but border patrol.
They've stripped them of their scope of their duties, and therefore they're doing nothing.
I mean, the interior enforcement of ICE, who does the detention facilities, the repatriations, the flights back, and all that is almost non-existent.
Yes, it still happens, but very, very minimal to the capacities that it should be.
And that's the the the part that people don't understand.
And uh the border patrol here, I talked to a lot of the guys that are in there in the facilities, and um they're just beyond, beyond uh uh uh uh what's the word?
Not even overwhelmed anymore, Joe.
They're they're just they want something to happen to where they can exercise the law.
Now, they were gonna start using Title VII, and you've heard this before.
Oh, we're gonna start implementing title eight.
Listen, Title Eight, I used to do title eight.
Those are the prosecutions that we did.
It's the law.
And uh they are gonna they tell me that here, at least in El Paso, not in New Mexico, but at least in El Paso, they're all gonna put some people through Title VII, meaning 1325 illegal entry, 1326, reentry, and and such.
And that means you need the Department of Justice on board to prosecute this cases.
You need defense counsels, you need the court system.
You see, it's it's it's a combination of all these things that need to be on board, and the Biden administration will not allow all those things to come together.
And by the way, my orcas is coming into town.
Let's see if they clean up the city like they did last time.
Uh that's kind of the game.
If they do use Title VI, they'll arrest and they'll pretend like they're gonna prosecute.
The DOJ decides not to prosecute, those cases just sit there.
But the Biden administration could say, Yeah, but we got them off the streets and look, we arrested them.
We used Title Eight.
Look how much safer it is.
That's the game they've been playing at prosecutors' offices in big cities across this country.
They arrest people, never prosecute them, and then quietly let them go.
Um, you and I talked before we started today about the case that was made yesterday, I think by Corrine Jean-Pierre from the White House, that they're gonna start the process of this parole thing that they're doing in Central America.
They're gonna start doing it in Mexico.
In other words, Victor, and I think you and I talked about this last time.
When illegal aliens get to our border, they will already have been processed, so Biden doesn't have to call them illegal, does he?
It's been going on for a long time, actually over a year, Joe, and let me tell you, it is illegal for border patrol to issue a parole.
It's against the law.
I had the authority as a special agent under Homeland Security Investigations.
I had that explicit authority to issue a parole.
The only other people that gets to issue parole is C VP O OFO, the the customs guy at the port of entry or airport.
You would need to go through a legal port of entry to get a parole.
So the Biden administration kind of got called out on that and they stopped doing it and said, Okay, border patrol, you're not gonna do it.
Well, you know what?
Now, like you said, why don't we just have the facilities, not even in the country?
Let's do it in Central America and Mexico and be processed and issued a parole by NGOs.
You gotta be kidding me.
This is a violation of our laws, of our sovereignty, of our constitution, of everything combined by allowing these contractors, NGOs that are making millions and sometimes billions with a B to process these people, and you're right, they're gonna come in to the Porto Renchue with a yellow envelope already processed with the employment authorization to a near a town near you.
And let me tell you, Joe, uh uh, you know I'm big on public safety and national security.
That's the part that is being ignored here.
The cartels are having a field day.
They're making they're still making the money, the illegals still have to pay them.
The the fentanyl still comes across, the mess still comes comes across, and you know else what's still happening?
The smuggling.
Not everybody's coming in.
Now I went to the west side of El Paso on the other side, that's cartel end.
And I don't know if I send you the video, there's tunnels.
I mean, these guys are avoiding detection at all costs.
Not everybody's turning themselves in because they're cartel members, gang members, possibly uh prior D ports with convictions, and you have people in the back of tractor trailers and and and trunks of vehicles and pickup trucks.
It is a wild, wild west over here, all the way down to Brownsville.
And it can be stopped.
You know that it can be because Trump Trump had it under control.
They don't want to stop it.
And I don't know why.
It's Victor Avula, Victor Avulo for Congress.com.
Also he's got a book called uh Agent Under Fire, go and get that as well.
Um 6.3 million, Victor, since uh Biden took office that we know of that weren't uh counted legal because again, we're changing how we're doing it.
NGOs, non-governmental organizations are doing this in the name of our government, which I I don't think is legal, by the way.
And a lot of these people that are that are uh claiming asylum, eighty to ninety percent are gonna be turned away.
But they already have work authorization, as you said.
So we've got millions of millions of people that are working jobs in America that Americans should be working, that are being allowed to come in here, and we aren't even to May 11th yet.
How bad do you think it'll happen next week?
It's is it gonna go nuts?
It's gonna go nuts.
And the the what they're gonna try to do is contain the people, issue them numbers, and they're gonna be called according to those numbers as they come in in groups of two to three hundred.
And another part of it is USCIS, the ones that do the asylum claims, the one that you would actually, if you had a legitimate case, would go to an asylum officer and do it.
We have a real process, and All that is just ignored because you just can't handle when there's thirty thousand people trying to do the same thing.
And you're absolutely right.
Ninety percent plus of these people do not qualify for asylum.
I heard a number the other day, and it's Victor Avula.
I heard a number the other day, Victor, that uh that border patrol or uh DHS doesn't know where 85,000 kids are who came here from.
Again, you and I've talked about this.
It's a humanitarian problem for those who are coming here too.
They're lied to by the cartels.
They're lied to by those who want an open border here.
You've got little girls, little boys, women raped on the way here.
Um, and then many of them are indentured servants, basically slaves, once they get here, and they can never pay off their their fare to get here, but they for some reason don't know where 85,000 kids are.
How's how's that possible when Trump was in trouble for for not reuniting 500 kids with their parents who broke the law?
Um, eighty-five thousand are missing.
Nobody says anything.
I witnessed it firsthand, Joe.
I've flown with them on the airplanes with this child with an adult that is not their father, that is not their next of kin.
And no one seems to question it.
I'm over here, you know, I'm going through all these emotions, I'm angry.
What the heck?
These kids going to Miami, they're going all over the place.
Well, you said the number, and nobody knows where they're at.
Who are these sponsors?
Nobody checked.
No ICRO didn't go and knock on their door to see who the sponsor was.
And it is child trafficking.
It's a fact facilitation of this government of aiding and abetting child trafficking and human trafficking, and you're absolutely right.
The cartels have moved the smuggling into trafficking.
And I talked to a Nicaraguan national, 23-year-old kid, seemed to be a nice kid who's going to Minneapolis.
He owes the cartel $8,500 that they charge him, and he has to pay back a thousand dollars a month with a $300 penalty if he's late.
And if he doesn't pay, they will kill his parents and take his house.
And I told him, what are you gonna do in Minneapolis?
How are you gonna get the thousand dollars?
Whatever the cartel asked them to do.
They'll tell him, enroll into the local community college so you could start selling meth and fentanyl.
Even though the kid's not a criminal, even though he might be a good kid, he's gonna protect his family and his parents.
So they'll have all these people that you think, well, they're not they're good people.
They just came to work.
Well, they have a debt now, and they're slaves to the cartel.
And of course, the women is mostly sexual exploitation and the kids.
But I want to finish with this.
I'm a big believer in and pretend want to protect the victims, the United States victims at the hands of illegal aliens, but you're also right.
The the illegals themselves are victims.
Look at the guy in Cleveland, Texas.
Right.
I mean, he who did he kill him?
His own people.
Right.
And and this is the problem that we have is you secure the border, you save lives.
You will prevent rapes, you will prevent assaults, extortions, and and all that.
So saving the border and securing the border is the humanitarian thing to do.
And what we heard about that case was it wasn't the the the illegals that were killed.
It wasn't the illegal that killed them.
It was the AR-15.
The AR-15 did it.
That's the problem.
If we just didn't have AR-15s, everybody would have been fine.
Well, if they weren't here illegally, if this guy wasn't let back in four different times, then they would be alive as well.
So we've got to change our mentality on this.
It's Victor Avula wants to go to Congress.
It's Victor Avula for Congress.com.
Let me ask you one last question, Victor.
Should you get into Congress?
What needs to happen?
Well, first of all, you would have somebody in Congress that would do one thing is put the people first and give the power back to the people.
You would have a border security expert that can got cannot be BSed by whoever's there at whatever committee and and tell them the realities of what's happening.
And it seems uh uh and the you know I'm running against my opponent because he has been challenging.
There's a really good bill out there that Chip Roy put out there, and he doesn't want to really support it.
He put in some other stuff to water it down, it might kick out.
And and why why are we hesitating when it comes to border security?
The people ask for the representative to be representing of the of the community, especially District 23 that runs from San Antonio to El Paso.
This is ground zero for crying out loud.
So you will get uh someone that's gonna be a voice for the people.
It's uh Victor Avulo.
You can go and find out more about it.
Victor Avulospeaks.com or Victor Avula for Congress.com.
Get his book, Agent Under Fire.
Victor, always incredible information.
You did not send me those last videos.
Send me what you have, and I'll show that to the people as well.
Thank you, I will.
All right, brother.
I appreciate you.
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