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All right, news roundup information overload hour 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, have you ever stopped to think, you know, the federal government taking in all these, you know, billions and billions and trillions of dollars of your money.
You ever stop to think, where does a lot of this money go?
You might remember it was Matt Gates that exposed the fact that IRS agents are armed.
Now, prior to 2020, for example, there were 4,500 guns that had been stockpiled, 5 million rounds of ammunition for use of 2,159 special agents.
Now, if you look at these figures, that includes 621 pump action semi-automatic shotguns, 539 long-barrel rifles, 15 submachine guns for crying out loud.
The IRS purchased buckshot and slugs for their shotguns.
The rifles are semi-automatic.
I guess it's okay for the government to have whatever they want, but you can't even have a simple AR-15, by the way, and military-style H ⁇ K 416 rifles.
Joining us now is Adam Angievsky.
He's the CEO and founder of OpenTheBooks.com.
His organization lets you, the American people, the American taxpayer, know exactly what's happening with your tax dollars and the government and how they have mismanaged and misappropriated all of the money that you send in.
Anyway, he joins us.
He put out a new report, and we appreciate him being with us.
You call it the militarization of the federal bureaucracy.
How are you?
It's great to be here, Sean.
Thanks for having me on.
As subject matter experts on this specific issue, since 2016, when we put a piece co-authored with myself and Dr. Tom Coburn, the former U.S. Senator from Oklahoma, in the Wall Street Journal, that piece, many people still remember it.
It was entitled, Why Does the IRS Need Guns?
And then over the years, we've updated that.
And so Gates did take our figures there.
You've repeated them accurately.
And, you know, where is it written that the IRS needs the equivalent number of special agents to a U.S. Army brigade?
This stuff's getting a little out of control.
Well, a little out of control.
Why don't you explain to people some of the discoveries that might shock them?
Because I read the report and a lot of it shocked me.
So since 2006, we took a look at the 103 federal agencies outside of the Department of Defense that spent $3.7 billion on guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment.
Now, Sean, there are 27 of those agencies that are traditional law enforcement.
They're under the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security.
But there are 76 rank and file administrative, general administrative civil agencies like the IRS, like the Education, Department of Education, like Social Security Administration, the Department of Transportation, like Veterans Affairs, like Health and Human Services for Crying Out Loud, and like the IRS.
And today, we've quantified there are more federal agents at 200,000 with arrest and firearm authority outside of the Department of Defense than there are United States Marines at 186,000.
So what does the IRS need weaponry for?
Do you know?
Because I don't know.
Well, every year we ask them, we ask their spokesman to go on the record to justify their expenditures.
And here's what they said, very vanilla back in January of 2021.
They said IRS special agents have been using weapons throughout their history and they've consistently found themselves investigating the most dangerous criminals involved in organized crime, drugs, and gangs.
And they went on a little bit.
But the fact of the matter is that since 2006, through the first quarter of this year, so we've got updated numbers, the IRS has spent $35.2 million on guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment.
And Sean, since the pandemic, and here's the breaking news for your program here today.
Since the pandemic started, the IRS has spent $10 million of it purchasing guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment.
They've spent $1.2 million, for instance, on ballistic shields, another $1.3 million on various other gear for criminal investigation agents, very non-transparent about what that purchased.
They spent a half million dollars on Smith and Wesson rifles, half a million dollars on duty tactical lighting, half a million dollars on Beretta shotgun.
And they have so much gear, these guys.
They have so much gear.
They spent $354,000 on their tactical gear bags.
I mean, that is unbelievable to me.
And by the way, we're talking about equipment that is not available to the general public.
I have a gun collection, and I need a professional gunsmith and a professional law enforcement person to look at every one of my collection and determine that it is legal in the state of New York.
They're very, very strict, and I follow the law to the letter.
But, I mean, I have to hire these people just to make sure.
Most of the changes they make are cosmetic, but I digress a little bit here.
There really isn't a need for them when we have other law enforcement agencies, when we have an FBI, for example.
I guess, you know, maybe they're spread thin.
They're too busy talking to big tech companies.
But I can't think of any scenario under which the IRS would need this type of weaponry.
Well, you're right.
And the scale is all wrong here.
I want to put it in context, Sean, for the listening audience.
So right now, the IRS employs 2,100 special agents.
These are the agents that are armed.
They have arrest and firearm authority.
That is going to increase by 600 by the end of the year to 2,700.
To put that in perspective, we took a look at the head counts across the country in local police departments.
There's 12,300 local police departments across America.
And the IRS, on headcounts of their special agents by the end of the year, would be in the top 50 largest equivalent police departments in the country.
That's what you're dealing with here.
Let me ask, because there are 76 agencies that are pushing, like regulatory agencies like the EPA, the Social Security Administration, Veterans Affairs, the IRS, Health and Human Services.
Do they all have weapons too?
They do.
They do.
As a matter of fact, Health and Human Services, you know, Sean, they're supposed to be running the soft social safety net in this country.
So why do they have 500 special agents?
Well, according to the latest data, you know, that we've compiled at openthebooks.com, all the way back to 2006, HHS has purchased a stunning amount, $154 million on guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment.
Did you know that the National Institutes of Health, they have their own police force with over 100 police officers over at the NIH?
That's actually bigger than 95% of the local police departments across the country.
I mean, that is insane.
Now, for example, I read in your report, this can't be true.
Tell me this is not true, that there are now more federal agents with arrest and firearm authority, 200,000 of them, than we have U.S. Marines, 186,000.
Is that possible?
So think about this.
You know, the Biden administration can't secure our nation's borders.
And they have 200,000 federal agents with arrest and firearm authority.
There's only 186,000 Marines.
So it's not a question of budget.
It is purely and simply a question of political will.
So if you look at the years and the purchase years, it seems to have taken a massive bump up in the year 2021 under Joe Biden.
As a matter of fact, by the largest amount going back to 2006, which you put in your report and a graph.
Why did it go up so high in Joe Biden's first year in office?
Well, that's the question we have.
And I think you have a smart listening audience, and they can come to their own conclusions, Sean.
But, you know, just who is the IRS preparing to battle?
You know, when they already had 4,500 guns for 2,100 special agents, that's more than enough.
Why did they have to spend a half million dollars?
Their rifles, you know, these rifles, their old rifles were just fine.
Why do they need to keep arming up?
So those are a lot of the questions that we have.
Look, I think that the weaponization of the House committees should call the IRS chief back.
they need to start exploring this issue uh with the irs you know the last time i will bring this up with the judiciary committee and And on that committee, you have Jim Jordan and Matt Gates, who has talked about it in the past.
I'll bring it up.
I mean, they're spending money on tactical combat gear.
They're spending money on a ton of money on ammunition and new guns.
Why do they need night vision equipment?
Because they're spending money on that.
Why are they spending money on virtual reality simulation training?
I mean, this is sophisticated.
You know, these are sophisticated tools of warfare.
They really are.
So we've been able to determine in years prior that the special agents over at Health and Human Services were trained by the very same contractors that train our U.S. military special forces.
At an undisclosed location in the Beltway, they actually have a training facility that's state-of-the-art.
And so we found that HHS special agents, they get, you know, night vision equipment.
They had six figures worth of virtual reality simulation training.
They have ballistic plates, body armor, tactical combat gear, about a half million dollars of that.
You know, brand new guns.
I mean, and we see this playing out across six rank and file, traditional civil authority, general administrative authority agencies.
All right, quick break more with Adam Anjievsky on the other side about why our IRS and other agencies are armed to the hilt.
Then we'll get to your calls, 800-941-Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
We continue with Adam Anjievsky.
Now, he is exposed.
Why are all these federal agencies like the IRS and Health and Human Services and others, why do they have all of this weaponry that they have when we have federal law enforcement?
Now, explain this part to me.
Isn't this happening simultaneously while the same left-wing liberal Democrats are the ones pushing defund, dismantle the police and no-bail laws?
Is that happening simultaneously?
Well, it is, Sean.
They want to take away your guns, but government is certainly arming up.
You know, there was a congressional hearing where one of the chiefs, they couldn't even explain what an assault rifle was.
They didn't know the definition of that.
Yeah, we played that.
That happened again last week, the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Yeah.
But the IRS.
By the way, and then they had somebody that couldn't define what a woman was, so I don't know what's going on there.
So the IRS, they, you know, they don't know how to define the weapon, but they're buying them.
As you mentioned, there's 15 submachine guns locked in their basement.
How does that make any sense?
Just for the benefit of people that didn't hear this, here is the ATF director saying he doesn't hold himself as a technical expert.
He's the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
He's asked a simple question: What is what?
What is an assault weapon?
Listen.
Could you, in 15 seconds, would you define an assault weapon for me?
So go after that.
15 seconds, I'll just interrupt you.
So I'll go shorter than that because I honestly, I do think that's a, if Congress wishes to take that off, I think Congress would have to do the work.
But we would be there to provide technical assistance.
I, unlike you, I'm not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be, but we have people at ATF who can talk about velocity of firearms, what damage different kinds of firearms cause.
So that whatever determination you chose to make would be an informed one.
I mean, so he's asked the question, he doesn't know how the hell did he become the ATF director?
Well, this is why we need congressional hearings.
And if you could carry that forward, Sean, there is precedent on this.
After that Wall Street Journal piece that Coburn and I authored in 2016, then chairman of the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Jason Chaffetz, you know Jason Chaffetz, he held hearings on this, and he found the asset inventory of the rank and file federal agencies were a mess.
Their gun lockers were a mess.
They were losing weapons, including Uzis over at the Department of Homeland Security.
Kate Steinley, you remember that beautiful girl that got shot on the San Francisco pier in 2015.
Well, she was shot after an officer at the Office of Land Management lost his weapon.
That was the pistol used in her murder.
So these things have real-world consequences.
This is a very revealing report.
We're going to take the whole report and put it up on Hannity.com so people can read it themselves.
I would bet that every American that hears this is going to be a little shocked and horrified by hearing it.
We really appreciate your time.
Anyway, Adam and Jiefsky, thank you so much for being with us.
We appreciate it.
Sean, thank you.
All right, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
You know, since Roe v.
Wade, over 60 million abortions have taken place in this country.
That's 60 million lives that were lost.
And it's just devastating.
Look, I take a very different position than maybe some other people.
I think abortion is a heart issue.
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We have another Kamala Harris word salad that we've got to get to, especially the day after the big announcement, pre-recorded announcement, which was like the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life.
But, you know, Kamala has these word salad moments.
Joe has cognitive problems, and Kamala has word salad moments.
Call it whatever you want.
Some of my favorites, the classics, are like the passage of time or communities, helping communities in the community, or Vinn diagram.
Let me play the few of the oldies, then we'll play the new one.
The governor and I, and we were all doing a tour of the library here, and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right?
The significance of the passage of time.
So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs.
And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.
We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks because we know community banks are in the community and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of community.
I like to think about a lot of things in the context of a Venn diagram.
I love Venn diagrams.
Always ask, is there a Venn diagram for this?
I'm telling you, it's fascinating when you do.
So, Venn diagram, those three circles, right?
And if you want to add some more circles to the Venn diagram, the solutions also look like what we need to do to invest in a clean energy economy.
Passage of time, time passing.
That's why we talk about the passage of time and Venn diagrams.
And communities are helping the people in the community for the sake of the community.
Well, we've got a new one.
I haven't even heard it yet.
Let's play it.
So I think it's very important, as you have heard from so many incredible leaders, for us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to see the moment in time in which we exist in our present and to be able to contextualize it, to understand where we exist in the history and in the moment as it relates not only to the past, but the future.
God help us.
I mean, I don't know who's worse, Joe or her.
I'll let you decide.
800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Pete is in the great state of Michigan.
Pete, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, good.
Hey, I got a question for you.
You back.
You keep saying about the three things Republicans have to do: you know, embrace vote by mail, early voting in ballot harvesting.
What exactly is a ballot harvester?
Ballot harvesting is where people are allowed to take the ballots of other people and bring them to either a voting center, a drop box, or whatever.
For example, there might be people that are assigned to go to nursing homes and they'll go to a nursing home.
And probably most of the people in the nursing home are not capable of getting out on Election Day.
And I'll be charitable.
And let's assume that they're honest.
And they assume the people in the nursing home want to vote, and they will help them with voting.
And they will take their ballot with them.
And I'm sure they will keep it totally sealed the whole time.
And they will drop off their ballot at the appropriate precinct, drop box, whatever.
That's pretty much ballot harvesting.
Now, the laws vary from state to state in terms of what's legal, what's not legal.
The Democrats have fully embraced it.
They've even started their 2024 ballot harvesting efforts already.
Republicans are way behind the eight-ball.
They better get their act together because you can't start out Election Day down by a million votes and expect to catch up.
It's not going to happen.
So they better embrace the same tactics as the Democrats.
I know this is process, but look at all the Democrats.
They don't run campaigns.
They're not out taking selfies and kissing babies and shaking hands and giving press avails and doing town halls and speeches.
They don't do any of that.
They run negative ads.
They seem to have limitless amounts of money to do that.
And they ballot harvest.
That's how they're running their election.
That's why somebody like John Fetterman can hide in his basement.
That's why somebody like Katie Hobbs won't debate Carrie Lake.
That's why Joe Biden got away with it during the pandemic, but the same strategy will be employed without the pandemic.
If you want A legal definition of it.
It's basically when electors vote by mail.
They typically have a few options for returning their completed ballots.
They can do it by mail.
They can drop them off at a polling station.
They can deliver them to a Dropbox.
And ballot harvesting is known as ballot trafficking, third-party ballot collection.
It occurs when individuals take advantage of these options to harvest or collect voters' completed ballots and return them on behalf of the voter.
Does that make sense?
Okay.
And while it might seem like a very kind and generous gesture, guess what?
It lends itself to cheating.
It's that simple because somebody else has your ballot in their possession.
And if they are a political activist, the odds are pretty high that they may open your ballot and they may change your ballot.
And you've already signed your ballot.
So that's what ballot harvesting is.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
You got it.
Anytime I can help, let me know.
Bob in New York.
Bob, how are you?
What's going on?
Good, Sean.
Thank you.
What can I do for you?
So yesterday, I was driving home.
And by the way, I'm a big supporter of Donald Trump.
Okay.
Pro-life president we've ever had.
Agreed.
Supporter of yours.
Thank you.
Same age as you are.
There's a butt coming here.
I can feel it.
I've done this too long.
There's a big butt.
Go ahead.
Correct.
I am an Irish Catholic American, as you are, although I remained in the Catholic Church.
I know you are a Christian, but I know you left the Catholic Church.
I'm sure for good reasons you spoke about on the radio.
I have.
But my faith has never been stronger, and my desire to have God in my life has never been stronger either.
Amen.
And by the way, even though I'm still within the Catholic Church, shame on the Pope for not supporting Donald Trump, the most pro-life president ever, and instead for giving communion to Pelosi and to Biden, the most unthinking safe Christians that I've seen in my life.
You may not like what I'm going to say.
I've had this happen to me.
So it was during the Hannity and Combs era, and we had a priest on that was very pro-life.
And I said, for non-believers, if I had to make a choice, I would prefer they use birth control over abortion as birth control because conception had not taken place.
And that guy said on air went very viral that he would never give me communion.
Now, at the time, my parish priest called me the next day and said, I'm your pastor.
He's not your pastor.
And you will always be welcome to receive the Holy Eucharist anytime you want.
And I appreciated that call.
I got a call from Jerry Falwell that day when he was alive, Reverend Jerry Falwell.
And he called me and he said, If you'd like, you are a parishioner as of this moment at the Thomas Rhodes Baptist Church.
And I really appreciated their calls.
It meant a lot to me.
Yes.
And today, and I don't want to get sidetracked on whether or not the birth control pill is abortion or not.
Well, that's how 52% of abortions occur now.
That's what the numbers are.
Agree.
You agree that the abortion pill, I'm sorry, the abortion pill.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is an abortion that is being committed at that time.
But I didn't actually call to talk to you.
It's a great point.
But this is what I called to talk about because yesterday when you were on the radio, you did not say anything about the abortion pill.
Did mention that the Republican Party needs to essentially soften its stance on abortion and make exceptions in the case of, and then you, if I correct me if I'm wrong, but you said rape, the rape, incest, mother's life.
I'll help you out.
Mother's life.
Yes, thank you.
And, well, I agree with the last case.
If it is a question of the doctors can only save one life, the mothers or the baby, right?
Then absolutely.
Okay, so let me cut to the chase because I know where you're going.
Let me help you out.
And you're a good caller.
I know you're coming from the right place.
You are more morally consistent than I am.
If you believe life begins at conception, and I'm saying I make exceptions for rape, let's take that case.
You know, you have a case of 11-year-old girl, God forbid, is raped.
She's impregnated.
I don't believe that that young girl should have to carry that baby to term.
That's my opinion.
Is it an easy call?
No, I mean, if you believe life begins at conception, it would not be an easy call.
However, I separate out and extrapolate out the morality of abortion with the politics of abortion.
And you might not like this either.
And the reality of the political side of the abortion debate for me is simple.
That if you are like Doug Mastriano, who ran for governor in Pennsylvania and you have no exceptions for rape, incest, or the mother's life, and I like Doug.
I hope he doesn't run for Senate because he's going to screw up another election in Pennsylvania.
And he's threatening to run for Senate.
I know I just pissed off a lot of people.
My job is to tell the truth, Linda.
Why are you shaking your head?
I am telling the truth.
He lost by more votes.
His opponent was not an incumbent, but Governor Shapiro won by more, the greater percentage of the votes since the early 1940s.
And I would argue because of this one issue: abortion.
No exceptions, rape, incest, mother's life.
Same thing Tudor Dixon.
I like Tudor Dixon.
She would have been a great governor in Michigan.
Now, you look at Wisconsin, the recent election there, and the Supreme Court was one, and it tipped the balance of power to the left in Wisconsin.
Why?
Because of the issue of abortion.
So if you want to win elections, I am saying to Republicans that it is untenable, especially if you're in a marginal purple liberal state, you're never going to win if you're not reasonable on the issue of abortion.
Again, I'm talking politically here.
I'm not talking about morality here.
And that to me means I probably would say, you know, the first trimester, Mississippi, that law was 15 weeks.
You know, Bill Clinton once famously said abortion should be legal and rare.
I would say legal, rare, and early if you're going to have it as law.
Here's the truth and the reality.
Women, most people that I know that are pro-choice don't like abortion.
They don't like it.
However, they still want it to be legal, at least for the first trimester.
And if Republicans come in and they're going to say no to that, there's no way those swing voters are ever going to go with the Republican Party and they will lose every election, every single time in every swing state, just on that one issue alone.
And Democrats have already telegraphed that they're going to demagogue the issue this election season.
That is my fine.
I'll give you the last word, but that's my position politically.
Does that make sense to you?
Yes, I understand perfectly.
But you disagree.
Clearly, yesterday, right?
It was very, very clear and is today as well.
So, here's my point.
I'm sure you saw, well, let me back to this.
You mentioned that you're a Christian, right?
So, that means you follow Jesus Christ.
So, I say to you in your stance, right, about exceptions for abortion, and we're not even going to talk just yet about artificial womb, which is a solution to what you had mentioned about an 11-year-old who was raped.
Okay.
So, here's the thing: if you're a Christian, you follow Jesus.
If you follow politics, then you're not following Jesus, right?
You're following politics.
Listen, I've got to run because this is a very deep issue.
I tried to give it as much time as I could.
I'm on the clock here.
I can only say morally, you are correct.
But politically, I am speaking a political truth as well.
And then people have to make up their own mind.
I'm only giving you the arguments on both sides, but I got to roll.
I appreciate you being with us.
It's an important issue, and it's not an easy one.
To me, the best way to help save babies' lives is appeal to people's hearts.
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