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Howell and Brosnan on FBI - April 13th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, you know, one of the things I've gone back to again and again and again is the issue of whether we have equal justice under the law, whether or not we have equal application of our laws.
And one of the main things you can look at is the rioting in the summer of 2020, the 574 official riots.
We had a couple of dozen dead Americans, billions in property damage, bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails.
You've heard me say this many times, thrown at cops, thousands of injured police officers.
We have all the videotape to convict people, but we never do.
There's no congressional committee like the January 6th Committee.
See, if Democrats can't politicize an issue, why bother dealing with it?
Every single videotape of every single perpetrator in the summer of 2020 should have been arrested and they should have been punished.
And time and time again, these incidents occur and it doesn't happen.
But when it comes to January 6th, we condemn all riots and you can't have what happened on January 6th either.
But that's not how things are.
And this gets to the heart of why the Judiciary Committee is looking into whether or not your FBI has, in fact, been weaponized and your DOJ has been weaponized, whether the FBI has been politicized.
And the reality is the answer is absolutely yes.
And that's the sad part of it all.
And it raises a lot of questions about every single issue that we're dealing with.
By the way, new information coming out about one of the lawmakers that was expelled down in Tennessee, Justin Jones is his name, and apparently took part in a May 2020 Black Lives Matter protest in Nashville, where he reportedly walked on top of a police car and subsequently was charged before a crime, but he was let off.
Would that happen to a January 6th protester?
I tend to doubt it.
It has nothing to do with race at all.
It has to do with law breaking.
Those that obey the laws follow the laws of our country.
You know, following the incident, charges were brought against him.
You know, there's videotape showing Jones, along with another fellow activist, walking on top of a police car as dozens of rowdy, seemingly uncontrollable protesters surround them.
Less than three hours after the warrants were issued by the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, they announced after a review of additional information, et cetera, et cetera, that the arrest warrants issued last night against this particular lawmaker now will be recalled for the present.
But did it happen or did it not happen?
You know, if you're pictured standing on a police car, is that not assault of a police car?
You know, is that not, you know, it's not the biggest offense in the world.
He's not punching like the police, like has happened in other cities.
But where is the oversight?
Where is the, you know, why is this happening?
Now, over at Oversight Project, which, by the way, we have Mike Howell is going to join us in a minute.
He's the director at the Heritage Foundation Oversight Project Director and also Kyle Bronson, the chief counsel for the Heritage Oversight Project.
And what they have now are new documents that show how the FBI equates protected online speech to violence.
Now, there are people online that say and indicate that they're going to be violent.
Should we pay attention to them?
Yes.
But that doesn't mean that a parent that is saying they don't want CRT taught to young kids or gender identity issues taught to young kids is somehow being equated in any way, shape, manner, or form, you know, with the FBI using terms like based or red-pilled or signs of racially or ethnically motivated violent extremism.
Now, what else have we learned?
That, you know, Catholic churches that use the traditional masks, they were recruiting in spite of a denial before Congress and Josh Hawley, Merrick Garland, denied they were doing it.
Now we have the evidence that in fact they were, just like the FBI was weaponized against, you know, moms and dads at school board meetings, looking into them, whether they're domestic terrorists.
What the hell is going on here?
It may be time the world's premier law enforcement agency has so has become so toxic, we may have to replace them.
We may have to start over.
If it's that politicized and the DOJ that weaponized, we may need to literally reboot the FBI to return it to the days that they were the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
Anyway, Mike Howell and Kyle Bronson join us now, Heritage Foundation Oversight Project.
Thank you both for being with us.
Mike, I'll start with you.
Is there anything I'm saying here that is wrong?
Do you believe that the FBI is politicized?
Do you believe the DOJ is weaponized?
Do you think there's a bias against conservatives?
Is there a dual justice system in America?
Well, absolutely.
I think it's beyond dispute now.
I mean, it's just evidence after evidence staring us in the face.
I mean, the most prominent one is what you mentioned.
2020 riots.
Black Lives Rioters burned down significant portions of this country.
They forced President Trump into a bunker at the White House.
Nothing was done.
No consequences whatsoever.
And I know DOJ still going fullboard with the FBI against people who only trespassed on January 6th, nonviolent offenders.
It's completely two systems of justice.
And the documents we got show that they're not stopping there.
They're going and looking at internet slang for people who lean right and trying to turn them into domestic terrorists.
This bulletin we have is a domestic terrorism bulletin.
They're calling United States citizens that they don't like domestic terrorists.
That's not what the FBI should be doing.
Let's get your take, Kyle Bronson.
What do you say as the chief counsel for the Heritage Foundation's oversight project?
No, I agree with what Mike had to say here.
I mean, some of these terms online are completely generic.
Things like based, things like red-pilled, you know, made popular by the movie The Matrix.
You know, you've got you've got common terms here that are being put out on the counterterrorism bulletins that could potentially serve as the basis for launching off into criminal investigations.
It's scary, quite frankly.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's very scary.
Now, when you look at, for example, I would argue that the last four elections, in some way, shape, matter, or form, that the FBI had cinder blocks on the scales of the election, one with the dirty dossier, two with the FISA warrant, lying to a FISA court because it says on the top of a FISA application verified, none of it was verifiable.
All of it has now been debunked.
Then 2018, you have right in the middle of the Mueller investigation.
Now we know in 2020, even though the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop since December of 2019, they had a team of FBI agents meeting weekly with big tech companies, warning them specifically that they may be victims of a misinformation campaign.
And in the case of Missouri, the director of site integrity at Twitter at the time, Yo Roth, testified that, yeah, they said it might even be about Joe or Hunter Biden.
Well, that sounds like they knew that it was likely Rudy Giuliani was going to leak it, and they were prepping these big tech companies for a censor operation.
Do you agree?
No, absolutely.
But let's not forget about 2022.
They interfered in that as well.
I mean, the documents at the Penn Biden Center were known to the government before the election.
We didn't find out about those until early this year.
That would have massively affected the 2022 election.
No, they did also raid Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago in about 90 days before the election.
Absolutely.
And criminally leaked all this stuff to the Washington Post, New York Times every day.
And then also, the big thing everyone misses is they moved ZuckBucks inside the Biden administration with Biden bucks.
They're using government agencies with your taxpayer dollars to target voters, register them, get out the vote efforts in deep blues areas, and they're just supercharging ZuckBucks.
I mean, our election system is far from free and fair right now, and it's only getting worse.
And no one seems to be focusing on the major problem right now.
And why would the FBI, we know they gave $3.5 million to Twitter.
Kyle, why would they be giving $3.5 million to Twitter?
So they can help suppress free speech.
I mean, I want to also add, too, here that we've got evidence that the FBI was trying to discredit congressional investigations into their conduct, specifically targeting Senators Chuck Resley of Iowa and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, giving them a briefing that they didn't ask for related to a Hunter Biden work, and then leaking it to the Washington Post for weaponizing in their Senate races.
I mean, this stuff is out of control here.
I got to take a quick break.
We'll come back.
Your call straight ahead, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue with Mike Howell and Kyle Brosnan with the Heritage Foundation Oversight Project.
Let me ask you both about this project and what you've discovered, because you've obtained documents that show how the FBI equates protected online speech to violence.
And according to the FBI, if you use the term based, I don't even know what that means myself, or red-pilled, there's signs of racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism.
What does that mean?
I guess I'll start with you, if you don't mind, Mike.
Well, it means that the FBI is turning the vast power of the federal government at political constituencies they don't like.
I mean, based means that you're based in the sense of like the Republican Party based.
Red-pilled means, you know, it's a reference to the Matrix that, you know, you see the world differently than everyone else.
These are internet slang terms.
But the point I'd like to make here is: can you ever imagine in a million years the FBI putting out a document like this about transgender terrorism, which we're seeing a massive uptick in?
They would never do that.
They're way too afraid of the left.
Why are they afraid to release that manifesto?
Any idea?
Well, I'm sure it'll confirm what a lot of people think, that there's a lot of violence associated with this gender extremism.
Well, we know about four specific cases in the last couple of years, right?
That's all we know?
I'm sure there's quite more than that in terms of, we're talking about mass shooters here.
But if you talk about, you know, incidents of violence, you see that every single day, whether it's had these crazy riots that they have in the streets, where they're assaulting reporters or people they don't like.
I mean, we're facing a major uptick in gender extremism-associated violence.
And the FBI would never put out a terrible attitude on it, not in a million years.
Did you see what happened to Riley Gaines, the swimmer, when she was given a speech in San Francisco?
I had her on Hannity last night, and trans activists, you know, shut her down.
She had to be whisked off the stage and brought into protective custody.
And they protected her for three long hours because they felt her life was in danger.
It's absolutely ludicrous.
And where are the consequences?
Where are the consequences?
If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd have FBI raids.
I mean, what are the FBI raids for the insurrection at the Tennessee Capitol?
They aren't happening.
It's just a two-tiered system of justice.
What's your take on what they are describing as based or red-pilled?
Is red referred to Republican or just is there a blue pill reference on the internet in terms of internet slang?
You guys need to know something.
I have a Facebook account I've never been to, an Instagram account I've never been to, and a Twitter account that my staff doesn't give me the password to.
So I'm not on social media anymore.
I had too many fights with Alec Baldwin and Jimmy Kimmel.
It's taking up too much of my time.
And Sean, you mentioned the transgender shooters manifesto from Nashville.
This document talking about involuntary celibate violent extremism refers to four mass shootings since in the U.S. and Canada since 2014 and refers to those shooters manifestos as a basis to review folks' online speech and potentially connecting them as they.
Well, I want to be fair here.
What consenting adults or what an adult decides to do in their own private life is frankly none of my business.
And if this is something like, for example, I know Caitlin Jenner.
I'm friends with Caitlin Jenner.
I was friends with Caitlin when Caitlin was Bruce Jenner.
We've talked openly and publicly at times about her decision.
And you know what?
It's her life, and I respect her decision.
But we shouldn't be indoctrinating kids or teaching kids without parental consent about topics that contradict the values of parents.
It's that simple for me.
Couldn't agree with you more, Sean.
I mean, it's out of control.
Our school system has turned into basically transgender recruitment centers.
They're creating transgender children.
It's terrifying, you know, as a father of young daughters trying to find an elementary school that they can one day go to, that where they won't have this nonsense because it's replete.
It's just in the system now.
It is drawing all the wrong people to the teaching profession, you know, which used to be such an honorable profession.
Now you see the things happening in classrooms, and it's nothing short of recruitment.
It's gotten completely out of control.
And the media and especially the political leaders on the left fan the flames.
They make this seem as if it's a life or death situation at all times.
And so it's no surprise that these people turn to violence.
If you want to talk about incitement, like they talked about when Donald Trump said go peacefully, we're seeing incitement on the left all day long.
You had KJP, the White House press secretary, gloating the other day that trans kids know how to fight back and are vicious.
That is outrageous.
A week after a transgender shooter just shot up a Christian school in an attack on Christians.
All right, appreciate your work and both of you sharing it with us.
We have Mike Howell, Heritage Foundation Oversight Project Director, Kyle Brossen, is the chief counsel of the Heritage Oversight Project.
Thank you both for being with us.
We appreciate your time.
We'll get to your calls coming up.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, investigative reporter Sarah Carter at the top of the hour.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Many of you have been very, very patient here today.
And for that, I apologize.
Anyway, Brooke is in South Carolina.
What's up, Brooke?
How are you?
Where in South Carolina are you?
A little bit close to Charleston.
How are you doing, Sean?
I love Charleston.
They have a great steakhouse there.
It's called Halls.
Have you ever been there?
It's amazing.
Yes, we live there.
It's amazing.
You live at Halls.
You actually go to dinner there every night?
No, I wish.
I wish.
But we go there as often as we can for sure.
Yeah, look, it's also a fun hangout place.
There are normal people there.
Something I'm not used to in New York.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for having me.
I just wanted to get into talking about the abortion thing you brought up the other day and how our politicians need to do a better job of being more politically moderate versus actually being morally conservative.
And I couldn't agree more.
I kind of wanted to chime in as a healthcare professional myself.
And, you know, boots on the ground as a productive woman, you know, I'm in the productive age.
The things that the left is doing is a whole bunch of propaganda.
And it's about their commercials, just like in Wisconsin.
One of my nurse friends, I asked her, I said, what happened?
How did this, you know, go down?
And she says, yeah, it's terrible.
And she said, but, you know, a third to half of the ads that they ran were constantly about all this abortion propaganda.
And why I say propaganda, I mean they're talking about things that aren't true, but acting like anybody who's conservative or on the right doesn't want them to have their rights based on the.
They're outright lying.
Let me be a little more direct than you're being.
You're being gracious.
You're from South Carolina.
I get it.
I'm a little more blunt, raised in New York, although I did live in Alabama, Georgia, and other places around the country.
So you're right.
They're demagoguing it.
They're lying about it.
They're turning it into a big issue.
Let me give you an example how Republicans better nominate people, and they need to understand where people are on this issue because politically, it's a divisive issue.
And understand that, you know, I believe in the sanctity of life.
I'm pro-life.
However, politically speaking, it is a death sentence for candidates, especially in swing states.
You cannot win.
Before they even start voting.
Yep.
Okay, so I'll give you a case in point.
Doug Mastriano, running for governor in the great state of Pennsylvania.
He lost as, well, let's put it this way.
The new governor, Shapiro, as a non-incumbent, won that race by the largest margin of any non-incumbent since the early 1940s.
He got destroyed, utterly decimated.
Now, that impacted Dr. Oz's race.
Oz, you know, Mastriano lost by like 16 points.
Oz lost by two and a half, three points.
I forget the title or the final total, but it was close.
And Dr. Oz was able to pull off something that very few people can pull off, and that is ticket splitting.
In other words, somebody would vote for a Democrat for governor, but then switch for a Republican on the Senate side.
But there's only so much ticket splitting you can ever get.
If you had somebody, in the case of Mastriano, no exceptions for rape, incest, or the mother's life.
Guess what?
You're not going to win any race except in a very small few states with that position.
Now, I'm speaking politically.
I'm not speaking morally.
I'm not telling you to compromise your values, but those candidates won't win, period.
They will not.
Nope.
And nobody's recognizing that, though.
I feel like they're just shoveling it all down underneath the rug and saying, well, as long as they know the economy has gone downhill, as long as inflation's up, as long as, you know, no, they saw it.
Like they expected a red wave in November and we didn't get it.
But no one is talking about why we didn't get it.
We didn't get it for two other reasons.
One is Republicans' reluctance and resistance towards mail-in voting and early voting, which, by the way, is not the case in Florida.
They've embraced it.
Conservatives, Republicans embraced it in Florida.
And the second thing is, is Democrats, they don't run campaigns the way Republicans do.
They're 15 years ahead of Republicans right now.
And the Republican Party better get their act together if they ever want to win another big election.
Because Democrats, they don't kiss babies.
They don't take selfies.
They don't shake hands.
They're not doing press avails.
They're not doing town halls.
They're hiding like Joe Biden hid most of his campaign.
And John Fetterman hid in most of his campaign.
And Katie Hobbs hid in most of her campaign.
And what they're doing is they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads against Republicans.
And abortion is a big part of the issue.
And the second thing that they're doing is if they try not to debate or they debate long after early voting has taken place and they've banked a lot of votes.
So even if they do poorly in the debate, a Republican, you know, in the case of us, he was down nearly 700,000 or 750,000 votes before he ever debated Fetterman.
And so, you know what?
They have got to embrace legal ballot harvesting because that's the other piece of the puzzle.
Democrats are exploiting the laws of individual states and legally ballot harvesting.
Republicans must match and or surpass, hopefully surpass what the Democrats are doing.
They need to get on it now.
Now, I'm getting a little annoyed because I've been talking to people and they're not moving.
There's no action involved in this.
And if they don't listen to me, then they can expect one answer in 2024, and that is they will lose.
It's hard enough for Republicans to win.
Now we have to fight for Georgia.
Now we have to fight for North Carolina.
Pennsylvania's always been a hard state.
Now we've got to fight in Wisconsin and Michigan and Arizona and Nevada.
You know what?
You have to run the table if you're a Republican.
If you don't match these efforts, you have no shot.
You have no shot at all.
So, and look at what's happening to the country.
The only thing that might mitigate this, might, is that if the country continues on its current trajectory, it's going to be such a mess in terms of foreign policy, China, Russia, Iran, the new axis of evil.
The economy is still going to be in a disastrous state.
That might change everybody's opinion and just say they are done with the Democratic Party.
That is another hope, but you can't count on that.
I cannot tell you with any degree of certainty what the main issues will be in November of 2024.
So does that answer your question?
It does.
It does.
But just to let you know as well, my friend the nurse, she said a lot of her Republican friends that were women also voted for that lady that ended up winning because of this single abortion issue.
I believe there's, listen, to me, abortion has always been a heart issue and not a political issue.
You know, that's why I like the group Pre-Born.
They don't get any, they don't get any federal dollars.
They use the science of ultrasound.
People donate because they believe in the cause.
Abortion is a heart issue.
And it's very hard.
Once people are locked into their position, they're not going to change.
I can't sit here and convince somebody that abortion should be, you know, up to the ninth month.
And by the way, that's the best counterargument Republicans have because Democrats in the last election cycle kept saying, oh, there's no room for the government inside of an expecting mother giving birth at her doctor.
Okay, if that's the case, then stop taking our tax dollars to pay for it.
Yeah.
You know, if you don't want the government involved at all, and then the Democrats that want, you know, even post-birth abortion, like that idiot Northam that was the governor of Virginia, you know, waiting, you know, people that support abortion up to the hours before birth, that's not abortion.
That's called infanticide or murder.
Use whatever term you feel most comfortable with.
All right, Brooke, thank you.
Good call.
Important we get this right.
Let's say hi to Charles, also in South Carolina.
We'll stay in South Carolina today.
What part of South Carolina are you in?
Near Greenville, a little farther away than Charleston.
Yes, sir.
No, I know exactly where you are.
Nice part of the country.
What's going on?
Just really quickly, before COVID, I know that's been a long time now, seems like, President Trump had China economically, we were leveling the playing field.
And obviously, Joe is not going to do anything with that.
Couldn't Congress, maybe Jim Jordan or someone else, push a bill where we actually go through and place tariffs or sanctions or something on China and then just watch the votes line up and be able to tell who is, if you're not for America and you're voting to not.
Yeah, I think they should hold a series of those votes.
And McCarthy, by the way, is planning as much.
So far, they've done a very good job of keeping their promises.
The minute they don't, I promise you, I'm going to be railing against Republicans.
I'm holding them accountable for the promises that they made.
You know, they came out with promises to America.
I expect them to keep the promises to America that they made.
So far, they're doing a good job.
We see investigations into the origins of COVID, into whether the FBI is politicized, the DOJ weaponized, into, you know, the Biden family syndicate and many other important investigations.
But, you know, yes, it's important to hold them accountable, put them on record on these issues so that America will have a choice election unlike any other.
But again, let me refer back to the last caller.
Unless they fix their attitude and run elections differently and modernize their electoral system, unless they do that, I am telling you right now, it will end up in an electoral disaster.
100% agree with that.
They've got to look forward and not keep sticking to the old ways of doing things.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
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Bob in Texas, the free state of Texas.
What's up, Bob?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
I have an issue that I feel is very important that is not getting enough attention, and that is about these shootings that are occurring.
I'm a 45-year retired conservative college professor, and I agree with almost every position you take on the items that you present in your programs.
We listen every day and whatever.
Thank you.
I tell you that because I live in Tech, I was born, believe it or not, in New Jersey.
When I came to Texas, I came to Texas because Texas was a free state, and it continues to be pretty free.
Well, I'm a concealed carry permit holder and a proud supporter of the Second Amendment.
Greg Abbott, Greg Abbott passed a law that allowed concealed carry permit holders to carry firearms concealed in their classrooms.
I did that the whole time I was teaching as long as when it was legal.
Now, I'm going to tell you something.
The universities are pretty, they've gotten very violent.
They weren't that way when I first started years ago.
I taught in West Virginia.
I taught in Texas.
I taught engineering subjects everywhere and whatever.
But they've become very, very violent places.
And because a concealed carry permit can carry in Texas, there's a person that's there at the point of concern if something goes bad.
Let me tell you, I can protect every school in America tomorrow.
I think there's 95,000 of them, maybe more.
The last time I looked, it was around that number, if my memory serves me well.
Here's how you do it.
You ready?
Every single school has got to have a perimeter that cannot be penetrated.
Every school should have a metal detector.
Every student has to walk through that metal detector, just like getting on an airplane.
And lastly, and most importantly, every single school needs retired military, retired police in the hallways of that school and outside that school to make sure that those kids are safe and secure.
And they've got to be trained and they've got to be armed and they've got to be courageous.
And if you do that, we won't have any more school shootings.
It'll be over.
Well, what about qualified teachers, though?
I mean, I had to.
I have no problem with it.
I think a teacher ought to have the right to defend their students.
Sean, the last class I taught, I had threatening letters written to the president about me, and I had to have police at the final examination.
Can you believe that?
Yeah, of course I can.
Welcome to my life.
That's called Hannity's life.
You wouldn't believe the crap I have to go through.
You know, I felt bad for Alvin Bragg, of all people.
Somebody sent him white powder.
You know what?
That happened to me, and my assistant at the time had at least six or seven hours of hell where she literally had to strip down as they were testing the powder that came out of an envelope that she opened.
And you know who I'm talking about.
And was in tears.
And nobody could go in and even talk to her because they thought she might have been exposed at that time.
It was around the anthrax time.
However, we can't have these people doing this and getting away with this.
We never were able to find the perpetrator.
I've had fatwas on my head.
Trust me.
I have a funny story about my kids about that because my daughter was young at the time.
And anyway, I had armed security inside and outside my house.
And they were there for a long time.
And my daughter very innocently said, Daddy, I don't understand.
Your friends, you're not spending a lot of time talking to them.
Well, I didn't have time because I'm busy working.
And they were just obviously doing their job.
And then her brother, who was a little older, said, you got to be kidding.
They're trying to kill dad.
Don't you get it?
My poor daughter breaks out and says in crying.
I'm like, did you really need to say that to your sister?
You know, did you really have to tell your sister that Santa Claus may not be real?
Did you really have to do that?
It would be the equivalent of that.
No, keep that in.
No, keep that in.
It's true.
It's the same thing.
Anyway, I get your point.
I have no problem at all, but it's a shame what you've gone through.
You know, there are more.
Look, there are people that are responsible gun owners that can protect our kids.
We need to be using them.
All right.
I appreciate you calling in.
Thank you, sir.
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