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Armed Schools Needed? - March 30th, Hour 2
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Uh Donald Trump uh Fox News poll out yesterday remains the frontrunner in the race for the Republican primary.
Yes, it is still early, but that is what the current state is.
Uh pretty significant lead, uh 54.
Uh Ron DeSantis at 24, and last month it was 4328.
I you know, you gotta wonder if Donald Trump he had a bump with the Mar-a-Lago raid.
You know, remember it was, you know, a week ago, we were on indictment watch.
Is a former president gonna get arraigned?
Is there gonna be mugshots?
Is he gonna be handcuffed, perp walked, fingerprinted, you know, put in an orange jumpsuit.
What was gonna happen?
And uh now we the latest was yesterday.
Um I don't know if this is updated as of today because things change regularly, but uh according to reports now, the grand jury hearing evidence in the Manhattan District Attorney's investigation into former President Trump will not sit again on the case until April the twenty-fourth, according to a court administrator telling Fox News.com.
Now, with that said, there was yesterday, um, let's see.
Uh let me make sure I pull this up and get it right.
Now we we had yesterday reports out, and this is pretty interesting in my view, that Bragg is now looking into the issue of Karen McDougall and money paid to Karen McDougal.
Uh so in other words, and there's a great piece out uh about this in the Wall Street Journal that I found pretty interesting.
Uh in the headline is Trump Grand Jury digs into hush money paid to a second woman.
We know her name, Karen McDougall.
She has done an inter I saw the one interview that she did.
And anyway, Manhattan prosecutors investigating Donald Trump's role and paying this money to a porn star, have also been examining a hundred and fifty thousand dollar payment to former Playboy model.
Uh I am pretty certain that Bob Costello, there were three big things that changed this entire grand jury around on a dime.
One of them was Bob Costello, completely former legal advisor for Michael Cohn, uh contradicting the star witness of Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan District Attorney.
That that was a problem.
Then the issue, well, then again, here comes Stormy Daniels signed uh signature on a piece of paper saying, No, we never had a sexual relationship, and it had nothing to do with hush money.
Actually says that uh in the particular piece.
Then we had the uh February 2018 legal letter from Michael Cohn's lawyer, so exculpatory, uh, saying in in no uncertain terms that the Trump organization, the Trump campaign, was not in any way in involved in this payment as it related to Stormy Daniels.
So you can't kind of make this up at all.
Anyway, joining us is our cracker jack legal team that we have.
Uh, and that is our good friend Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, author of the soon-to-be-coming book, uh Trial of the Century.
He also hosts the podcast, The Brief, David Schoen back with us, former counsel for President Trump, and uh former board member of the Alabama Civil Liberties Union.
I don't know what the hell you were thinking back then.
I'm just kidding, David Schoen.
Go to good to have you both back.
Thank you.
Good to be here.
All right, Greg, to me, it sounds, you know, look at last week, for example.
Last week we have one cancellation of the grand jury convening, and then another cancellation.
Now we have uh David Pecker, who used to run the National Inquirer involved in this case with Karen McDougall to the extent that he bought the rights to her story.
Uh he goes in on Monday, and then we hear that pretty much they're not going to convene again on this issue till you know for another month.
What is your take on it?
Yeah, I I think that Alvin Bragg has finally gotten a case of the for reals and realizes that his case ain't real.
Uh and I think he has heard from a load of Democrats who said this case is unprovable, it's weak, it's legally convoluted, give it up.
But I think a couple of other things happened.
I I think an internal revolt within the DA's office by senior experienced prosecutors have, you know, told Bragg, you engineered this case, it looks political, the law doesn't support it.
And the other thing is I think the grand jurors themselves may have recognized that Bragg was snookering them by endorsing Michael Cohen, a prodigious liar.
You'd need a calculator to keep track of all of his lies.
And then, of course, as you pointed out, Sean, you know, Bob Costello testified and said, you know, Cohen is lying to you, and here's the proof.
And Alvin Bragg has been hiding this proof from you.
You put all of that together, and and I think Alvin Bragg has finally decided that he wants his case to go the way of the dodo bird extinct.
Or is it a case I mean, d does he want to take a break?
Is he maybe more interested in watching what, say, happens in Fulton County or happens with the special prosecutor uh and the two or the dual investigations, one into January 6th, one into the document issue uh down at Mar-a-Lago, is that a possibility?
Yeah, I I do.
I think he, you know, that is a possibility.
He he may have decided, well, I don't want to go first, because mine's the weakest case.
But if everybody else, like Jack Smith's inflated case, he's the special counsel, or Fulton County DA, Fannie Willis' anemic case, if they go first, you know, then maybe I'll think about jumping on board with mine.
Yeah.
What's your take, David Schoen?
Well, I've felt that uh each of them in Fulton County and uh Manhattan DA and uh the federal uh investigation has all wanted to be the first one to be able to say they indicted President of the United States.
But listen, we know that there was dissension in the office well before even Bob Costello.
Julietta Lozano, the head of the chief the chief of the economics bureau in the DA is on record saying she wouldn't believe a thing Michael Cohen ever said.
But Bob Costello really is the major story.
He came forward on his own with no ulterior motive.
He just was reading about what's happening in the papers, and he said, Wait a minute, I have all of my notes from representing Michael Cohen.
And so he pulled this is why it's so important.
He comp he pulled contemporaneous notes that he made from his interviews with Cohen, and what hasn't really been reported much is he went to the U.S. attorney's office afterwards and debriefed with them.
And on this Monday of this week, he found 600 pages of bait-stamped additional handwritten notes and other documents, some of which he'd already turned over.
And in those documents, one of the notes is handwritten at the time, June 13th, 2018, met with Michael Cohen.
He talks about a dinner that they had with Jerry Falwell, and which apparently Mr. Cohen said he's contemplating suicide, his life is finished, and so on.
But specifically he said to um Costello, according to his handwritten notes at the time, that there is nothing that he has involving Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels or David Pecker with the McDougal case.
That was discussed back in 2019 when Costello, as his lawyer, said to Mr. Cohen, according to Costello, now is the time to come Forward with anything you have, because you have said, Mr. Cohen, you'll do anything to stay out of jail.
If you have anything on Donald Trump, say it now.
And to his own lawyer, he said he had nothing.
And then he signed a privilege waiver.
So the question is this opens up all kinds of doors.
Where's the DA been?
Costello debriefed with the U.S. Attorney's Office.
Where are their notes?
How is it that the DA didn't know that Cohen had waived privilege with Costello?
He has a written privilege waiver I have right in front of me.
Um the U.S. Attorney's Office insisted on that.
The DA's office said, oh, they didn't know anything about this.
Well, what's their investigation been if they didn't know about those chief exculpatory facts?
That's different from Cohen telling different stories on different occasions.
This is Cohen telling it what he believes to be privileged at the time to his own lawyer.
Now this is very, very key.
And uh my understanding, I read a report, I don't remember where, and uh it's not been corroborated, but also that Bob Costello was talking not only about the Stormy case but about the McDougal case.
Uh Greg, does that does that match your recollection?
Yeah, it does.
And and David is as always right on point on all of this.
Let me point out something else.
In both the McDougall and the Stormy Daniels case, the statute limitation bars bringing any criminal action.
On the predicate misdemeanor, which is incredibly dubious, it's a two-year statute of limitations.
And it cannot be told uh the way that Bragg somehow thinks it can be.
Told means extended.
Uh the federal uh financial crime, which is alleged, that's a five-year statute of limitations.
We're two years past that.
So, you know, this would not be.
Would they have any argument that COVID maybe uh uh takes away time from the statute of limitations?
Would that be a valid legal argument?
No, i i it wouldn't, and neither would the fact that Trump was out of the jurisdiction.
If you read the fine print of the law, it says you you only it can only be told or extended if you don't know where the other person is outside the jurisdiction of New York.
Well, everybody knew where he was.
He was at the White House.
So you can't get past the statute of limitations.
So let's talk about the the process and and what do you think they brought in David Pecker for David Schoen?
Well, I think you know, there's certainly Grassfield Straws.
They wanted to make a case that's not dependent on Michael Cohen.
And and they're, you know, according to recent reports today, they're trying to do the same thing now with Mr. Wesselberg.
They're threatening to bring other charges against him, because in Cohen's book, he has Wesselberg saying that he, Wesselbert, thought up this plan to uh, you know, pay off people for Donald Trump and so on and so forth, and so they're trying to turn the screws to him now.
They're looking for other witnesses.
It would seem to me, you know, quite clearly.
And I want to just add, you know, what Greg's again right, on the statute of limitations question, you know, New York law has this statute that says if a person's continuously out of the state for X period of time, it's uh the statute doesn't run during that period.
And so they're saying President Trump was in Washington, and they have a case that says, yes, you count each day is in the state and outside the state.
That's never been tested in a case like this.
And as Greg said, what the case says specifically is this law was designed to be cut in the recognition of the fact that it's difficult sometimes to find where people are if they're out of state.
It wasn't difficult to find where President Trump was.
And you asked about COVID.
Governor Cuomo passed an execu uh issued an executive order trying to toll the time uh based on COVID, but that's also uh questionable, and secondly, the time would have run under that.
They only told it for two hundred and some odd days, two hundred and twenty-two days, something like that.
What do you make of this last minute that they're bringing in the McDougal case?
Both of you, Greg will start with you.
Um on any of the issues, any of the legal issues Donald Trump is facing, be it in in Fulton County in Georgia or uh the the special prosecutor, do you see vulnerability for Donald Trump?
No, I really don't.
I think the Fannie Willis Fulton County, Georgia case is a joke.
Uh when you compare the law to the known facts, um it doesn't uh comport.
The only other case uh that I I think you know people are paying attention to is special counsel Jack Smith's uh, as I called it the inflated case.
Um there are two aspects to it.
Uh did Trump incite violence on January sixth?
No.
His speech said be peaceful.
As for the classified documents dispute, that is governed exclusively by a civil statute.
And Merrick Garland has tried to criminalize it.
He cannot do that under the law.
You agree with that, David Schoen.
And uh what are your thoughts on this whole issue of catch and kill?
And that would be uh a publication, in this case, the Inquirer buying a story, paying for it, and then not running the story.
Yes, I agree with Greg.
And secondly, I think that what what Pecker would have to answer if he decided to say that Donald Trump somehow knew about these things, would it take to explain is catching what he's constru uh uh characterized as his catch and kill program.
That had nothing whatsoever to do with the election.
According to what reports of what Mr. Becker has said in the past is that he was always protective of his friend Donald Trump.
And then if somebody had information they were extorting him with, blackmailing with something like that, or might come out, and it was worth a business expense, then Mr. Pecker would find that person to try to shut it off.
Everybody all accounts, people wanted to keep Donald Trump out of the loop of any of this stuff and just protect him in what they thought was his best interest.
And what do I think about all of these things?
By the way, on McDougall, as I say, I have in front of me Costello's notes in which Cohen said um Trump knew nothing about the McDougal thing.
But anyway, what I would say about all of this stuff is what Justice Jackson said in 1940.
The most dangerous power the prosecutors will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.
In such a case, it's not a question of discovering the commission of a crime, then looking for the man who's committed it.
It's a question of picking the man and then searching the law books or putting investigators to work to pin some offense on him.
That's what's happened here.
They just want to pin a crime on Donald Trump.
Jerry Nadler said in 2019, they feel they can't trust the voters.
About as undemocratic a statement as I've ever heard from a public official, they can't trust the voters, he said, therefore they have to use these extraneous methods.
Well, you have uh great minds think alike.
Greg, your column started with uh, you know, s under Stalin.
Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
Uh I gotta thank you both.
Uh Greg Jarrett, thank you.
David Schoen, thank you.
We appreciate you uh joining us as always.
Thank you both.
My pleasure.
You know, I refuse to give up on the idea that the only solution to protecting our children in school is gun control.
I just told you 60 some odd percent of illegal guns when people are caught with ill illegal guns in um Washington, D.C., they don't get prosecuted.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
So what what is a new law gonna do?
There are ways to protect our children in school.
We're gonna examine that with Congressman Greg Stooby.
He's proposed legislation that would protect every kid in every school.
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Um, I am not willing to give up on the notion that the left is gonna have a monopoly of of the arguments as it relates to school shootings when uh when I I guarantee you that the plan I've laid out would absolutely positive work.
And it's very simple is that every school must have a metal detectors.
Every school in the country must have undercover, retired military, retired police, protecting our children.
Hollywood stars are protected, they're rich, they can afford their own private security.
Uh the average person, they're on their own.
And if we have politicians, I'm all in favor Of protecting them too.
You you don't think we need a secret service?
We absolutely need a secret service to protect our elect elected officials.
And that is just the right thing to do.
But the real answer is why don't we give our children the exact same security that were given politicians the exact same security that liberal elites have.
They're all against firearms, but I guarantee you, in 90 90% of the uh time, they their security guards are carrying.
So it's pretty unbelievable.
Anyway, Congressman Greg Stooby is with us of Florida.
He's a member of the Florida State Senate, Florida House before coming to Congress.
Uh he was a leader of having armed security in schools since at least 2014.
That's even years before Parkland ever happened.
And Congressman Stooby has helped to craft legislation currently on the books in Florida as it relates to having armed security in schools.
And uh, you know, he's devastated.
You know, those of us that have been out there looking for real solutions, short of we gotta abolish the second amendment.
This murder comes from the heart.
You could go online, and they even years ago I talked about this on uh I had a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook.
And it it shows you how to make things that will inflict major damage to large groups of people.
Anyway, Congressman Stooby, thank you for being back with us.
By the way, I I heard you a hurt.
I'm glad you're feeling better.
Thank you, sir.
Yep.
Getting getting better every day.
Thanks to God's great.
Thanks so much for having me on.
Well, it's great to have you.
So I guess you're as frustrated as I am because you know, uh for example, I I've always made the case that the left only cares about violence if they can politicize it.
And the key biggest case in point would be in the city of Chicago, because in Chicago, you know, on any given weekend I can predict with a certain degree of uh accuracy how many people are going to get shot and how many will get shot and killed.
I wish I couldn't make that prediction.
Since 2009, Congressman, I've been scrolling names that the American public have never heard of before shot, shot, and killed in Chicago.
I've scrolled the names of police officers, names people never hear about the left can't politicize it.
You know, it really hit home when my friend and colleague, Gianno Call Caldwell at Fox News, his brother, an innocent victim of a shooting, murdered in Chicago.
And it's happening every day, and nobody talks about it.
Now these school shootings come up right away.
We need to we need to uh peel back uh second amendment rights.
We needed uh a ban on assault weapons.
That's not the answer.
In this particular case, after looking at security at one school and seeing that they had a really secure school, uh this shooter, it that took this one that took place in Nashville, decided to go to the school that didn't have as much security.
That was a conscious decision, which I think proves your point and mine.
I'm sorry to be so long-winded.
No, and you're right, and and you just brought up a very important point.
A lot of these individuals do research as to where they want to hit, like the Dark Knight shooter who in Colorado shot uh went decided to go into a movie theater, he researched which movie theaters didn't allow law-abiding citizens to carry a concealed uh weapon, and he actually drove by the one that allows for permit carriers to carry uh and went eight miles from his house to one that didn't, specifically because he knew that if he went into a place where there are armed people that he wouldn't be able to kill as many people as possible.
She didn't hit another school because of their security posture.
And so if we don't have trained armed individuals in our schools uh to be able to respond to an armed threat, then they are beholden to law enforcement, and in this case they did an outstanding job, but that's four minutes where somebody gets to walk around a school shooting innocent children.
Let me ask you does your bill include metal detectors at every school?
We did not put that piece in.
I think that's a great piece.
Um, and we're now filing this, it's not filed yet, but we're filing this at the federal level.
Um, at the state level, what it did is that uh just like you said, former and current military, former current law enforcement in good standing, goes through a training program because you know CQB, those sort of things that you have to deal with that are different.
Same training courses an SRO would have to go to would be placed uh at these different schools.
And you could have not just one.
I mean, I would recommend being a former infantry officer, at least three, and you saw that when they went into this school in Nashville, he waited until he had three guys and they went in together because you can't see blind spots.
So tactically, it's very important to have that.
So you don't need just one.
I mean, having as many as possible that are willing to do this, uh i is a great benefit to the safety and security of our most precious resource, which is our children.
It's so w it's so easy.
Now, would you agree with me?
I have one other item.
Uh, and I gotta give credit to a friend of mine said, you know, one of the things that we learned in this shooting is there were cameras in this school and those cameras proved to be, you know, life saving because they were able to direct the officers, and by the way, I can't praise those guys enough.
They got there and they boom, let's go.
They there's this was not a Uvoldi situation, uh, in any way, shape, manner, or form.
And youvaldy I would argue is the an anomaly, it's not what regularly happens.
Police officers put their lives on the line every day.
Um, but I think security cameras need to be in every hall, every classroom, every place, everywhere.
Do you agree with that?
100%, and that's a great point because you can you can direct, you know, there was an administrator there.
If you watch the video, uh the body cam video of the officer, you you hear somebody saying, Okay, she was this direction and this hallway and go this way, and then you could if you listen to it, you could hear them hear gunshots upstairs and then they went upstairs.
So that would be vital.
And in today's world, I mean, I have cameras around my property, we have cameras all around talking to you from Washington DC in the Capitol, we have cameras all over the Capitol.
There's no reason why we shouldn't have them in our schools to protect our children.
Let me play a little bit of the tape that you're referring to, the the body cam audio.
Uh police neutralizing this this Nashville shooter, and they did it in record time.
Uh this could have been much, much worse.
As awful and horrible and evil as it was.
It could have been worse.
These officers were heroes.
Let's listen to some of the body cam footage.
Shots fire, shots fire, shot fire, move.
Right, right, right.
Right, right, right.
Push an LPBO.
Push to the LPVF, go right.
Reloading.
Move, move.
Watch out, what's out?
Stop moving!
Stop moving!
Watch left, watch left!
Suspect down, suspect down.
Secondaries provide security.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, hold the air.
Listening to that, anybody want to be a cop in the era of no bail, defund, dismantle?
I don't think so.
These guys were amazing.
Yeah, they did an awesome job and a huge testament to them, the lives that they saved.
And um uh we have these people all across our country that are willing to do that.
And you could do you could hear his frustration as a former military officer.
You could when they first walked in and they didn't know exactly where they were, you could he you could sense the frustration and you watch the video and they're trying to quickly go room to room because they want to get to this individual to stop them from targeting children.
Well, it's an amazing bill.
Let me ask you, how many co-sponsors do you have?
What could we do to maybe help you get this across the finish line?
Because this is the bill that'll keep kids safe.
And I I I ran the numbers last night.
If you take the eighty-seven thousand IRS agents that Democrats want to hire, well, you could we only need to go up a little more in terms of money because there's ninety-eight thousand schools in the country, and we could protect every one of them with an armed guard, and that would be at least a good start.
And my strategy would be if retired military, retired police, if they if they donated their time and and they served their local school district, you know, maybe we could work into legislation they don't have to pay federal income tax.
Maybe we can work in they don't have to pay state income tax.
Maybe we can work in a a national stipend somehow, uh, taken out of this massive educational budget that we have all over the place.
Or the hundred and forty plus billion dollars we've given to the Ukrainians.
Uh, how about sending some of that money to our own school system to protect our children?
Yeah, I think a couple of billion out of that would be very well spent.
I agree with you Congressman completely.
And uh that's what we need to do.
It's not let's just ban certain uh rifles because we don't like the way that they look um let's protect our children and I and and there's no reason why we can't find I mean the the the amount of money that they just did in this um last bill that the the Democrats passed in December before Republicans took over and and Green New Deal deals and all this progressive propaganda we can certainly find the money to ensure our children are safe.
Well we really appreciate what you're doing Congressman Stooby the great state of Florida we really appreciate your time.
We know how busy you are and uh thank you so much for joining us.
Thanks Sean any time.
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What's up Frank?
How are you doing?
I'm doing good Sean thank you great accent.
That's actually Linda's accent.
Mine when I'm tired.
I'm a little tired today a lot of stuff going on.
What's going on my friend?
Uh well I I feel very passionate about this school shooting stuff especially having children myself that are school age as young as far all the way up to age fifteen right now and it makes me very nervous setting them to school each day.
I'm not really interested in the partisan politics anymore.
I just want our children to be safe.
So uh I called up my school and I asked if I could volunteer and stand I guess you could say some kind of watch.
I told them I was prior military.
I understand you can't have firearms on campus, but I'll stand off campus.
I was told that that would not be effective and to contact my congressman and knowing that much of this state is very liberal, I decided I was going to tune into some progressive radio and try to get an idea of what their mindset is into this topic.
Well I deliberately signed up for a service just to listen to progressive radio and I ended up calling into two shows both the same result.
I was talked over and hung up on I tried to talk about possibly hardening our schools there's more guns than our Americans in this country.
The gun grab is not going to be you're talking about fortifying our schools creating a safe zone in our schools protecting our children in our schools that's what you're arguing for.
Yes, of course I just want them to be safe I don't care about the politics.
I'm sick of the politics I'm sick of the gun grabs I'm sick of the conversations after these school shootings we always go to the guns because it's always the same thing.
Congress does nothing nothing really happens let's talk about gun reform and it's off to the next news cycle and then next thing you know a few months later more of our kids are dead.
I'm tired of it.
We need to reach across the aisle and talk to each other and when I finally try to do that because quite frankly I'm not a fan of liberals I call up these radio stations I try to have a good conversation one of them cuts me off and calls me a gun gun toting Republican another one calls me a uh a maggot and these people are online calling people calling uh white people crazy and uh you know gun toting and it's all because of them we're having these school shootings we need to get rid of guns.
They don't want to talk about real solutions.
And I am so appreciative to have access to your audience to voice this Because I know in your audience, you got people doing op research at other news organizations that are trying to contradict all your points.
Let me tell you something.
Welcome to my world, because that's my life what you're describing.
Um, and look, it's, you know, they don't want to even have a discussion about a solution.
You know, they won't even consider the the, you know, in this particular case, we learned something here.
That the shooter chose the school that didn't have security and had originally planned to go after another school that had a lot of security, but decided, oh, I don't think I'll be effective here.
Let me go to the school without security.
That should teach everybody everything we need to know.
We have the ability to make our schools safe and secure.
The people that want to politicize it are the same people that never mention any of the names of any of the people that are shot and killed, you know, every weekend in every big city across the country.
I've been scrolling names like this since 2009, and I'm sick of scrolling them.
Anyway, really good call, Frank.
I hope people hear you because what you're saying can save lives.
All right, when we come back, Tim Stewart, president of the U.S. Oil and Gas Association, will be with us as we continue.
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