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Uh, my interview with President Donald J. Trump from Mar-a-Lago tonight, nine Eastern, the full hour uh on the Fox News channel.
Hope you'll join us.
We talk about a lot tonight.
Uh, there's a lot to talk about.
Uh, anyway, one of the big issues is about the Alvin Bragg case collapsing last week.
Um, and then I did ask the president with all the good news that he had gotten.
Um, why did he go out, tweet out that image that became an instant controversy and talk about death and Destruction.
You'll uh hear his answer to that tonight.
Uh here's James Comer, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, uh talking about Bragg's investigation being federal, and Bragg doesn't have the luxury not to testify in front of Congress.
And also that this investigation of Bragg uh about Donald Trump is about politics.
And by the way, even Andrew Cuomo said so.
Listen.
Well, what the DA is trying to say is is what you just quoted.
He said stay out of local investigations.
The problem with that is uh this is not a local investigation.
This is a federal investigation.
He's investigating a presidential candidate, not to mention former president of the United States for a federal election crime.
Uh that has no business uh being litigated in a local district attorney's office.
And when he says he's not gonna cooperate with Congress, unfortunately for Mr. Bragg, he doesn't have the luxury of determining whether or not he can uh comply with con congressional requests uh because he crossed over two levels of government from the local level to the federal level to try to prosecute something that that clearly, if there was a reason uh for prosecution, it should be done by the Department of Justice on the federal level.
He's investigating, as I understand it, uh potential violations of state crimes.
Uh even at that, yeah, look, let's just be honest here.
I mean, this is about politics.
This is a presidential candidate.
And one of the reasons we believe we have uh high crime rates in in certain parts of America is because we have prosecutors that are soft on crime.
And we believe that uh our tax dollars, uh, and that's where I come in with the House over second me.
We believe tax dollars would be better spent uh prosecuting uh local criminals.
That's what a DA is supposed to do.
All right, joining us now is President Trump's attorney in the New York uh case, and that's Joe Tacopina.
Uh Joe, welcome back to the program, sir.
How are you?
Good Trump.
Thanks for having me.
All right, so we have a grand jury that meets three days a week in in Manhattan.
Uh Monday, what is it?
Thursday, and is it Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday?
I think it's Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, but you know, it seems to be a moving target.
And i I don't know if that that is uh set in stone schedule, but that's been Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.
So what we knew by the end of last week is that there was a lot of chaos, and it was reported pretty much everywhere.
Fox News.com had it.
There's a lot of chaos inside of Bragg's office.
We had three big developments last week.
Uh one certainly was uh this letter that what from Michael Cohn's attorney uh from February of 2018, which was extra extraordinarily exculpatory.
I read it every day last week, so no point in reading it again today.
Uh then we had Bob Costello who testified a week ago today before the grand jury, contradicting pretty much everything that Michael Cohn said, but especially pointing out that Michael Cohn said over and over again he had no dirt on Donald Trump, and then talking over and over again about how he's never gonna go to jail and he'll do whatever he has to do, say whatever he has to say to prevent himself from going to jail.
Um so that that takes their star witness kind of out of the equation.
And then a third thing that came out is we went back in time and then there it was.
We found numerous instances.
TMZ, Washington Post covered it, signed uh uh signed uh Stormy Daniels signing her name, saying they never had an affair.
So I would say that's a pretty good week for Donald Trump.
Yes, it is, yet we're still actually sitting here waiting to see if Alan Bragg is going to seek to indict the 45th president of the United States on unsustainable charges, Sean.
They are unsustainable charges.
The crime that he's seeking to charge.
It doesn't come close to any of the facts we know.
And that's what is still scared to me.
I mean, this thing should have been put to bed a long time ago.
You know, this was called the zombie case by that office.
It was uh a case that they actually put into the grand jury two years ago under the previous DA events, and then withdrew from the grand jury because they were thinking that there was a tax deduction taken here when there was no tax reduction.
Um I I just I'm I'm really at a loss to see how they go forward.
And if they do go forward, it is to me, again, I'll say it, the greatest uh abuse of prosecutorial discretion I've seen in my 32 years.
And I said on both sides of the defense, I was a prosecutor and his defense lawyer.
It's something that I just don't see how they do it.
Um and and that's what's what's concerning to me.
And now you know you have the the House Judiciary Committee coming down on them.
Uh yeah, they they're summoning their noses at them, but that's not gonna last too long, and that's not gonna end up too well for him.
Um, you know, i i it's a case that is really harkens back to the the regimes, the terrorist regimes of of history when you talk about Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Russia, Chinese, Communist China, you know, where people are targets of government and they figure out later what the crime they'll charge them with is, but they go after the target.
And that's what you have here, and that's something that we should be all be shivering in our boots about because this is a precedent that doesn't just go with Donald Trump.
Once we cross this Rubicon, we're there.
And this will be the new weaponization of the justice system in this country to seek out political opponents.
Scares the hell out of me, Sean.
Scares the hell out of me, and and this is not the only legal case the president is dealing with.
Uh you got the case down in Georgia, you got the case I guess you have uh uh of special prosecutor now appointed, looking into the classified documents and and going back even to January sixth issues.
Um at what point does it end?
Um but this has been this defines Donald Trump's career in politics, never ending, nonstop uh attacks, investigations, you know, like the Mueller investigation, the Russia hoax, the Ukraine impeachment, you know, it just never seem never seems to end.
The the issue here is that and and I take based on your statement, you have not heard from the the DA's office at all, have you?
Not at all.
No, not at all.
I mean, we even sent that second letter, as you know, that when you discuss these the McDermott law firm letter, which is uh insanely powerful letter, it means Michael Cohen is gonna have to either say I lied to another federal authority, the FEC, or you know, which is a five-year crime, or or you know, I I was telling the truth then and I'm lying now.
I mean, it's uh, you know, it further complicated things.
It also corrupts corroborates Bob Costello and his testimony.
It is a a unmitigated nightmare for this office.
And that's why any prosecutor worked assault would never bring a case on the word of Michael Cohen.
And that's why Sean, for you know, years you you need more than just the word of a a a convicted liar, a convicted perjurer, someone who's committed a multitude of felonies inside the Trump world outside of the Trump world with this tax and die and frauds and all that.
I mean, this guy is a a walking contradiction, never tells the same story twice.
And so, you know, you you have to really be concerned about what are we doing here?
And and and that's you know Well, Alan Derschwitz took it this far.
He said Go ahead.
Let me play it for you, because he said Alvin Bragg could be disbarred if he uses Michael Cohn's testimony to secure a Trump indictment.
Listen.
Well, I don't think an indictment can actually come forward now after the comments made by Costello.
He has proved that the main witness is gonna be a perjuring liar on the witness stand and that puts the district attorney in a terrible position.
If he uses Cohn as a witness, he could actually lose his bar license.
It's unethical to put a witness on the stand who you know is lying, and he has to know that Cohen will be lying, or he tries the case without Cohen, which is very difficult, or he does the right thing.
He drops the case.
Even Dan Abrams said it was Bragg Jerry riggering a seven-year-old misdemeanor into a felony uh to charge Trump.
And and we've gone into that in great specificity and detail.
And yet here we are, week two, you know, of an of possible indictment watch.
How how about how about uh the New York Times today?
You know, they they there's nothing Donald Trump does that they think is okay.
They came out with the uh uh uh a very strong piece of why it would be a massive mistake to to charge the president.
They came out with a very strong police.
I mean, Andrew Cuomo, okay, someone who's not a friend of Donald Trump's came out very aggressively against the charges here.
So it's not the usual suspect.
It's not well he he rightly called it what it is.
It was political.
This is all political.
Of course it is, of course.
Because look at that.
Can I just say this for your listeners, just for the that's because we keep getting, you know, I I keep repeating it, but it seems to get lost in the message.
There are the the law is very simple.
You know, they say it's murky, it's murky in some regards, the election campaign uh finance laws, but it's very simple when it comes to this.
If the person is spending personal funds, not campaign funds, and if that person had uh a reason to make that payment irrespective of the campaign, obviously here to prevent personal embarrassment to himself and his family, it is outside campaign finance.
So there's no campaign finance violation.
So then there's no false business records because there was no filing obligation of those records.
So he President Trump had many non-electoral reasons for trying to keep these allegations quiet, notably family harmony and protecting family members, especially his young son, right?
And preserving the by the way, what if he didn't win the election to preserve his future viability and television personality also in case he lost, right?
And it's you can you imagine, Sean, the amount of people that would be baying for Donald Trump's scalp if the illegal campaign contributions uh would be leading the charge.
If instead of using his personal funds, he used campaign funds to make this payment.
They would be going crazy.
It's a personal expense.
Use campaign funds that's a felony.
I mean, so damned if you do, damned if you don't, right?
I mean, he didn't use campaign funds, he didn't take a tax deduction.
All the things you would have done if this were a campaign expenditure, it was not.
So what are we talking about here?
And and Michael Collins' own attorney puts that in writing in 2018.
Now, uh, if he's the star witness, then I guess the second star witness would be Stormy Daniels.
Stormy Daniels as as that.
I'm not so sure about that, Sean.
She wasn't even told the grand jury.
She is probably the most irrelevant witness in this entire case, Dormy Daniels.
She was paid money.
There's no question about it.
She was paid money, but she also signed a document that uh she wasn't paid money because she never had sex with Donald Trump.
That's what she said.
But but think about it.
That's why she signed her name to that.
Yeah, no question, but the president vehemently denies that he had that affair with her.
But putting that aside, it is completely irrelevant to the charge that would be brought, whether he did or he didn't, and and that he paid her money.
That's what's it's irrelevant.
It's irrelevant if he did or did not have a relationship with her.
Completely relevant.
So she could deny it, she can admit it, it doesn't matter.
What's what's relevant is was the payment made to her a campaign finance violation?
The answer is 100% no.
And by the way, you had on your TV show the other night, Bradley Smith, former chairman of the FEC, who reviewed this issue, and he said it's absolutely nuts.
You know, you could expend like look, I want to go good on the campaign, so I'm gonna go buy an expensive suit instead of wearing uh a cheap raggy suit from put together from China that I bought the 99 dollars.
I'll go get a an Armani sue or something because it will help my image on the campaign.
Well, that's benefiting the campaign, but that's also benefiting yourself, and that is not or ever will be considered a campaign finance expenditure.
You can't write that off or have campaign funds pay for your suit, even though it would benefit the campaign.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back more with President Trump's attorney, Joe Tacopina.
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Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
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Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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We continue with President Trump's attorney, Joe Tacopina's with us.
Well, let me ask you this.
I watched you on Meet the Press yesterday, and it was a topic, you know, it's a topic I'm asking the president about tonight.
And that is, you know, he had a great week last week.
Um, and then he opened himself up for criticism with the the post of him with the baseball bat and the picture of Alvin Bragg next to it, and the comments about death and destruction.
Yeah.
Your attorney, what were your thoughts?
Now he did put by in fairness, he pulled it down as I understand it very quickly.
Yeah, I spoke about it because what it ultimately happened here.
And look, it's someone someone messed up from that from his his social media team.
I mean, that's just we don't need self-inflicted wounds here, right?
The last thing we need to do is make Alan Bragg the victim here when he's the guy who's perpetrating this this this fraud of the case.
Um, but you know, what had happened was there was an article that was written, a very negative article about Alvin Bragg and his track record on non-prosecuting Bottom crime or something like that.
It was a headline.
That's all he was shown.
The headline, it was like, you know, it was a link, so it just had the headline in it.
He said, okay, yeah, you should post this to whoever.
But when someone opens the article, what they did in that article, it wasn't President Trump who did it.
They they just posed two photos, one with Trump with a bat, one with Alan Bragg's head next to each other.
So of course, when that article was reposted, that picture showed up unbeknownst to him.
And but somebody had to pick that up.
So I did say that was ill-advised.
It was ill-advised, Because we don't need any self-inflicted wounds.
The president's a great communicator.
I mean, he got himself into office when nobody thought that would ever happen.
Okay?
And he does it because he knows how to speak to his constituents and his people.
But no, that was just a mistake that we didn't need, and it's over happened, but he did to his credit.
To his credit.
Um he did pull that down when he found out that picture was there.
And you know, but uh no one's gonna give him credit for that because they don't give him credit, they just the track.
All right, we'll talk to you on TV tomorrow night.
Uh Joe Tacopina, President Trump's attorney in the New York case, uh, as the grand jury meeting, uh, even as we speak, we'll wait and see if if anything is uh breaking or forthcoming.
Uh Joe, thank you.
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I want to go back to something that got no attention last week.
And that is, you know, Winkin Blinken, Tony Blinken, admitting now.
Remember, Joe Biden, I'm not leaving Afghanistan until every American is safe and and secure and out.
Uh they left tons of Americans there.
Uh I know of operations that are ongoing to this day to help people escape the Taliban and escape and get out of Afghanistan.
And yet here's Tony Blinken admitting a hundred and seventy-five uh uh Americans are in Afghanistan today, and then he took it a step further, and many of them are being held hostage.
They have kept this from we, the American people, the entire time, held hostage by the Taliban, and our government isn't lifting a finger.
They wouldn't even tell us the truth.
Listen, the commitment holds to get everyone out that, in fact, we can get out and everyone should come out.
And that's the objective.
That's what we're doing now.
That's the path we're on.
I think we'll get to Americans should understand the troops might have to be there beyond August 31st.
No, Americans understand that we're gonna try to get it done before August 3rd.
But if we don't, the troops are.
If we don't, we'll determine at the time who's left.
And if for American force if there's American citizens left, we're gonna stay till we get them all out.
Mr. Secretary, how many American citizens and licensed permanent residents are in Afghanistan today, and are any of them currently being held hostage by the Taliban?
Uh Congressman, there are uh several Americans who are being uh detained uh by the uh the the Taliban.
Uh we are working to secure their freedom.
The families have asked that uh we protect their identities and don't speak publicly to their cases.
Now those are being detained.
How many other Americans there are or there are approximately let me put it this way since um since August 31st of last year, uh we have helped uh about nine hundred and seventy-five uh American citizens who wished to leave Afghanistan do so.
As we speak, uh Americans who identify themselves to us, American citizens who identify themselves to us who are in Afghanistan, some of whom have been there since uh the uh withdrawal, some of whom went back to Afghanistan.
Uh there are about uh that we're in contact with about a hundred and seventy-five.
Forty-four of them are ready to leave, and we are working uh to uh effectuate uh their departure.
I mean, it's just like you know, the Iranian hostage crisis.
Imagine if Donald Trump was president, the Taliban had killed thirteen Americans, and uh we left, you know, tens of billions of dollars worth of military equipment, sophisticated military technology to the Taliban, and uh we left Americans behind and had now had American POWs there, pr the basically prisoners of war.
Or let's you know, or hostages, which w whatever term you prefer.
Uh all right, let's get to our busy phones.
Many of you uh are very patient.
Don in Wisconsin, Don, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Good sir.
I don't want to keep that, just got a couple comments.
Uh I respect you and I know you're really good for our country, but I was wondering if there's any way to set up a meeting uh to get Trump and DeSantos to put their egos aside and maybe combine on a ticket to uh we can't afford another Joe Biden.
And if uh you know, I always thought that uh you know Trump wants to run again, that's good for four.
But if um it was me and I was Trump, I'd invite DeSantis on the ticket and tell him he'll be the most hands-on vice president in the history of our country.
Well, I'll be asking the president uh I have really have one question, because I don't know w the why this has happened.
So I'm gonna ask President Trump about uh because I it's the most asked question I get when I go out and meet people, people say hi, we talk politics a little bit, and people will ask me, you know, what's going on with President Trump and and Governor DeSantis.
Uh I've known both of them.
I've always liked both of them.
Um Ron DeSantis has not declared yet that he's running.
It appears to me now that it looks like he's going to run.
So I'm just gonna simply ask President Trump, because they used to be friends, what happened?
And I'll let him tell his story when I have DeSantis on, I'll let him tell his story.
I would just like, you know, I've listened I'm with you.
I'd rather people get along.
Look, let me tell you one thing though, Don.
I've been doing this a long time, and as much as we would prefer a united front and every Republican, you know, fighting stay basically being on the same team.
And every Republican, you know, staying amongst each other.
Um I gotta tell at some point during a primary, it's going to get very nasty and very ugly because there's so much at stake.
It always happens.
But it but it's happening now at the beginning of the campaign.
This will usually happen after Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, the gloves start coming off, and it's a bare knuckles brawl by then.
So this is pretty early for that.
You know.
But I you know the guy's down and if I had my way, I would have everybody more focused on how bad they're the the country's in a total complete mess.
It's a disaster since Joe's been president.
You know, I'm really worried about China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the the new alliances being created.
Don't think it was an accident when we saw Putin and she, you know, say that we, you know, this is a uh uh an opportunity we've not seen in a hundred years.
That was done on purpose.
That was a message to America that we basically saying we see that you're weak and we're gonna exploit it to the max.
Um that's a scary alliance to me, because they're both hostile actors.
You know, we've seen what evil uh Putin is capable of.
Just wait until Taiwan is taken over by China, which I predict will happen.
Um other quick comment.
I don't want to keep you got other calls and stuff, but uh what can we do as uh Republicans to ensure that the elections are should be fair?
That's my the other big concern.
The thing, and I'll discuss this with President Trump as well.
Um the thing about elections and fairness to me comes down to very simple things.
Republicans have made him uh a tactical mistake by resisting, you know, early voting, mail-in voting, and Republicans are not involved in the legal, and I say the word legal because most states allow some version of ballot harvesting.
And Democrats that they're masters at it.
They don't campaign anymore.
They don't run on ideas.
They they run hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads, and they do they have ballot harvesting operations that are very well funded and very sophisticated, and Republicans are out there shaking hands, kissing babies, taking selfies, doing town halls, uh talking to the media, having media avails, and meanwhile, Democrats hide as as much as they can, and they're getting elected because their strategies are working.
It is a vote-gathering strategy.
It's not a we have a better idea, please vote for us because our ideas are better.
As a result, Republicans are starting out election day down hundreds of thousands of votes, and it it's now becoming impossible to make up.
So they better change how they approach elections and they better match and hopefully even do a better job of what the Democrats are doing.
And I've been saying this every day.
I'm getting I'm now getting repetitive, but I won't stop saying it until they start doing it.
I don't see that there's any coordinated effort out there to to fix and balance out the ballot harvesting uh activities of the Democratic Party.
Look, I um I don't you've got other calls.
I don't want to take up your time.
I just want to tell you how much I respect you and I really appreciate what you do for our country.
Don, God bless you, and I wouldn't have this microphone if it was not for people like you.
Thank you, my friend.
Uh Larry is in Ohio, the great state of Ohio.
Larry, where in Ohio are you?
Well, actually, I'm I I'm a resident of the great state of Indiana, but I said Cincinnati because I'm very close.
And I'm actually calling you from Wichita.
Wait a minute.
So that means you know about Willie Cunningham, right?
The great Willie Cunningham.
Bill Cunningham.
All right, tell me, Bill Cunningham, whenever I do his I do it in an imitation of him, he goes, Do I really sound like that?
I'm like, yes.
Sean Hannity, you're a great American.
God bless you.
God bless America.
I want a full report.
Is that fairly accurate?
That's that's pretty accurate.
That's pretty dead on, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
You do a great impression.
Anyway, I tried.
What's on your mind today, my friend?
Well, first I just wanted to say thank you for taking my call and thanks for all you do to expose the truth.
And I wanted to build on an idea that Linda threw out last Friday.
She said what she'd really like to see is that is a C-span camera at every congressman's desk to make sure they they read the bills before they vote on them.
And she's absolutely right.
But there's actually, I think a better way to accomplish that.
And I know you're familiar with the work of the Convention of States organization.
They are trying to put together a convention of states to propose amendments to the Constitution that would limit the power and scope of the federal government, drive fiscal responsibility, and impose term limits on lots of federal offices.
And just imagine if we could get an amendment in place that would limit bills to be single issue bills and no longer than 10 or 20 pages.
It would it would get us out of this craziness.
I think the immoral, frankly, process we have where we put together these two thousand page bills and then give Congressman you know a half a day or a day to read them.
Nobody can go through could you know go through that much material in that short of time.
And frankly, I think voting on that sort of thing is that well, again, I it it's immoral.
We're signing Americans up for massive spending that even Congressman voting on it don't really know what's in there.
Look, you what you're describing has gone on all the years I've I've been talking about politics.
And do I agree with you that it should happen?
Yes.
We we need a top-down we need to uh frankly a cleansing.
I I don't do body cleanses, but you know, we uh we just need a cleansing of our government.
And I'll be honest, I think we should shrink dramatically the size and scope and influence of government.
I think we should put a lot more power back into this uh the hands of states.
Um and I think states should be deciding a lot of these things.
I don't think any of that's gonna happen.
If you look at the woke agenda, I mean you you have you know billions of dollars of money committed to every department over all these departments, transportation and energy and even our own military uh for climate initiatives.
And I'm like, they they have bought into this.
It is it is a religious cult of of climate alarmism.
And it's costing us a fortune, and it is it is frankly destroying the economy.
It's hurting our our competitiveness, it's weakening our military and our preparedness, military preparedness.
And we're the only idiots that are doing this.
And you know, and then you can add to that funding, you know, globalist organizations like the WEF or the WHO.
Um, so anyway, I appreciate the call, Larry.
God bless you.
Uh you're a great American, my friend.
Uh let us say hi to James in Florida.
James, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Pretty great, Sean.
It's great to be able to visit with you.
Um I I echo the gentleman before you.
You know, I've been listening to you for a long time, and truly you guys, you and everybody at Fox and your radio guy, your team there in this era of uh banana republic we're living in.
Um we listen to you every day because you really do give us hope.
Well, I appreciate listen, I always say this and I mean it.
It's not just words.
I don't have a show without you listening.
I don't have a TV show without you watching.
It's my pleasure, it's my passion, and frankly, it's gonna be all of us united that take that that get the proper change we needed in this country.
We need a dramatic course correction right now.
We are in deep trouble On foreign policy.
We're in deep trouble economically.
I don't like it.
I'm very concerned about our future.
Well, no doubt.
And as bleak as it looks, because it, you know, for the average person here that I am and my routine throughout my day in my little life, it's it's extremely bleak.
And I think everybody should have remembered faith in our constitution.
And that ultimately it will prevail.
And we may go through some hard times between now and then.
But let me let me say what I really call Sean is this is that as I I'm from Texas, but I'm here in Florida, and I have family that lives down in Brownsville.
If people really understood what's really going on with the border, I mean, I'm not trying to pull a fire alarm in a and a in a fear, but I am.
If if people really they are here.
We have terrorists now in this country.
And what I don't understand is I can understand why.
I mean, I'm disgusted with our our democratic senators that don't have the integrity or the backbone.
They're complicit in this, each and every one of them, by letting us continue.
We can blame Biden as we should.
But the Democrats are just as complicit.
It's gonna happen sooner or later.
It'd be the same thing if Biden said all of a sudden, Sean, well, the TSA is racist, so we're not gonna have the TSA at airports anymore.
What's the real difference?
Look, I mean, I if you ask me if I can name a single thing that Biden has done that's successful, I really can't.
I mean, that's the measure.
Here's another measure.
Are you better off uh since Joe Biden's been elected president?
Is the country better off?
Are you personally better off?
You know, to me the answer is obvious.
And and these are the questions that Americans are gonna have to ask themselves.
And I'll couple that with what I said during the last call.
Republicans gotta not reimagine, I hate that word.
Republicans have got to rethink and strategize how to match the legal ballot harvesting efforts that the Democrats are successfully using.
And unless and until we fight on that ground, we'll lose elections.
That's line.
We're all worried about the next election because they're very good at they're very dirty and very good at cheating.
They bet they they better fix it now and match those efforts now and get over their reluctance and resistance on early voting and voting by mail.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
God bless you.
Glad you're out there.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Uh looks like there's not going to be any indictment.
Apparently, no vote in the Manhattan grand jury today.
But yes, it's week two of indictment watch.
Uh that will be part of our discussion with Donald Trump.
My one-hour interview with Donald Trump uh tonight in full 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
You'll only see it there.
His first on-camera interview uh since all of this has gone down, and he's got a lot to say.
Nine Eastern tonight, set your DVR, Hannity, Fox News, we'll see it tonight.
We'll react to it tomorrow, right here on this show.
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