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	So the FBI, we had questioned repeatedly in the Senate, for example.
	Christopher Wray, you know, said, discuss the actions he's taken in response to Michael Horowitz's report, which, by the way, had specific recommendations and even referrals for people that he believed had broken the law and Director A did next to nothing.
	Here's what he said at the time.
	Could you tell me what some of those actions are?
	Have you taken the actions he referred to in response to Horowitz's report and his subsequent memo on the woods file issues?
	Yes, Senator.
	I welcome the question.
	So first off, as you may know, we accepted all of the findings and recommendations in the Inspector General's report.
	I ordered at the time over 40 corrective actions to go above and beyond the recommendations of the Inspector General's report, and those have been implemented.
	Those include everything from strengthening our procedures to ensure accuracy and completeness to make sure the court gets all the information it's supposed to, changes in our protocols for CHS's confidential human sources, training changes.
	I created a new Office of Internal Audit that's specifically focused on FISA auditing.
	There's a whole number of things I'd be happy to walk through, but I recognize that our time is limited.
	The Horwitz Report.
	Can you tell me how many people you have referred for prosecution at the FBI as a result of the Hartwitz report?
	For prosecution or for discipline?
	For prosecution first.
	Just give me numbers because I don't want to abuse my time.
	Well, the prosecution issue related to anything to do with the Horace Report in the hands of Inspector General.
	I get it.
	How many have you fired?
	So all the people, most of the people involved in Horace Report are former employees.
	Of the ones who are current, every single one of them, even if mentioned only in passing, has been referred to our Office of Professional Responsibility, which is our disciplinary arm.
	Now, that piece, and this is important, that piece of it, because we're cooperating fully with Mr. Durham's investigation, at his request, we had slowed that process down to allow his criminal investigation to proceed.
	So at the moment, that process is still underway in order to make sure that we're being appropriately sensitive to the criminal investigation.
	Now, we have other developments as it relates to the FBI, not the least of which is here's the timeline.
	Go back to December of 2019.
	The FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop.
	They either made no effort at all whatsoever to verify that, in fact, it was Hunter's laptop, or they ignored their discovery because leading up to the presidential election in the summer of 2020, on a weekly basis, led by a fairly new special agent who had written a report or a thesis that actually said that Donald Trump had colluded with Russia as a way of getting elected.
	In the way that the FBI prescribed.
	The reason this is so important to what you played at the beginning of this segment is that you heard Chris Ray say, listen, everything's under control.
	We send it to the Office of Professional Responsibility.
	They always take care of things.
	They get the bad guys.
	They do the punishment.
	Well, this was, these are the ultimate suspension, losing a gun, assaulting someone, sleeping with an informant or sleeping with a prisoner or sleeping with a subordinate.
	Lots of offenses, but a lot of times not the sort of termination most Americans would expect, not the sort of bright line that most Americans would expect happens at the FBI, at the premier law enforcement agency.
	So when Chris Ray says, trust us, we sent it to OPR.
	We now know what OPR does.
	Most times, it doesn't fire an FBI agent for serious misconduct.
	Is Christopher Wray in the loop once it's sent to OPR?
	In other words, okay, these instances are going to occur in any organization, but they're serious and they're more significant, especially if they involve weapons or drunk driving because these agents are armed and being involved with subordinates or witnesses and things like this that could compromise these agents' ability to even do their job.
	Is Christopher Wray at all aware of these cases in terms of does he do any follow-up when these instances come up?
	It's a great question because here's the dirty secret about this and the reason that the Justin News was able to obtain these reports from an FBI whistleblower.
	Steve Friend provided them to us.
	Why?
	Every FBI agent from the director all the way down to the lab technician gets a quarterly email of all the wrongdoing that was committed by the Bureau and how it was adjudicated, how it was punished.
	So, yes, Chris Ray and every other FBI executive, every FBI employee gets these every three months, but there doesn't seem to be much concern.
	I asked the FBI, hey, a lot of serious things.
	So you got drunk driving, you got lost weapons.
	Are you happy with the adjudication?
	Is this the right signal?
	And they're like, oh, we think this is greatly working.
	This shows the system's working.
	I think a lot of Americans will say, wait a second, an FBI agent can't criminally drive drunk and still keep a shield.
	We don't think that's the right way.
	Steve Friend, the agent who gave these to me, now a retired agent, he retired a few weeks ago after blowing the whistle on what he said were civil liberty abuses during the January 6th Capitol Riot investigation.
	He said he made these public because he believes in transparency.
	And one of the things he thinks you're seeing in the FBI is a trend line.
	There is a new generation of FBI agents that he says had a sense of entitlement, meaning the only reason they got into the agency was to get the gold badge and the gun, but they're not really adherent to what they learned in the academy, what they learned in the rule book.
	And there is sort of a cultural more gap inside the FBI with a new generation of agents and leaders.
	He's really concerned about it.
	That's why he made these documents available to Justin News so we could publish them for the American public to see.
	And the FBI is claiming as a result of your piece that they believe that the report that you put out, which is devastating to them, somehow validates them, vindicates them, shows that their disciplinary system is working even as they seek to improve the, you know, from the outside advice, including the Justice Department.
	Now, you know, all of this supposedly is being investigated by the House Judiciary Committee and Congressman Jim Jordan, but so far, Christopher Wray's FBI and Merrick Garland's Department of Justice have steadfastly refused to cooperate with that investigation.
	Is that not true?
	Yeah, there's been a real resistance to turning over evidence.
	But the good news is, even in the lack of compliance and even in the lack of cooperation that Chris Wray has given these committees, there are more than two dozen.
	I think we're getting towards three dozen whistleblowers that are now come forward, and they've taken documents.
	They've taken records and video and audio and solid evidence, and they're giving it to the Congress separate of the Bureau.
	And that is allowing these committees to make some really significant advances.
	And earlier on, you talked about the Washington Field Office and some of the concerns about politicalization.
	I think in the next month, we're going to learn some explosive new information about what pressure and powers and levers were being pulled to stop Hunter Biden from facing criminal charges.
	I think that's going to be the next big shoe to drop.
	I think there's an amazing story evolving from whistleblowers and internal documents, maybe people in multiple agencies who are now coming forward saying, hey, the Hunter Biden case was not handled the way any other case should be.
	Political tampering, political interference.
	The reason the committees are getting this information is because whistleblowers are coming forward in spite of the cover-up by their agency.
	They're coming forward to tell the American people, we want to make a better FBI and we start with transparency.
	Here are the documents.
	I keep an eye on those developments over the next couple months.
	Quick break more with Investigative Reporter, Editor-in-Chief at justthenews.com, John Solomon.
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	We continue with John Solomon, his explosive report at justthenews.com about the FBI, how it's gone wild, and internal memos chronicling years of bad behavior, and of course, their involvement in not one, but now two presidential elections.
	In light of what we know about the FBI's involvement in 2016, in light of what we know that they used the dirty Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier as the main focus, the bulk of information to obtain the FISA application warrant, and they used it four separate other times.
	And yet none of the information in that dossier not only could be verified, it was unverifiable because none of it was true.
	Nobody was really held accountable in that instance.
	So I would imagine that the FBI, you know, with their disinformation unit meeting with big tech in the lead up to the 2020 election, they knew Hunter Biden's laptop was real.
	They also knew it was likely going to come out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy of it, and they knew he had a copy of it.
	And yet they were telling big tech companies, be on the lookout for anything that looks like disinformation about Hunter Biden or Joe Biden.
	And sure enough, that day came.
	And when it came, see, we told you so.
	And then they wouldn't publish it.
	Is that not putting their thumb on the scale of a presidential election yet again?
	Yeah, there's no doubt.
	Listen, we have five or six years of evidence now of the FBI interfering in the election process.
	Sometimes by giving instructions that a lot of people think are illegal to big tech companies saying, hey, censor this, block this, apply your terms of service to this.
	When the government makes that request, it takes it to a different level under the law.
	Overwhelming evidence that that occurred now.
	We get that from James Comer.
	We get that from the Twitter files.
	We also get it from a very important lawsuit that the Missouri and Louisiana Attorneys Generals have filed that has brought forth some amazing evidence about the FBI's role in censorship.
	So they censored.
	They allowed a false investigation to proceed, knowing it was false.
	And here's one of the most amazing things.
	There are still disciplinary cases open, meaning they're not been adjudicated.
	The punishment has not been meted out from people who did things wrong in the Russia collusion case going back to 2016.
	The FBI's wheel of justice not only turns slowly, it hardly ever gets to some of the more controversial.
	What does that mean?
	Someone can get another three, four, five, six years of their retirement, and then they'll just quit before the punishment comes down and keep their retirement, like we've seen with some of the senior executives that were fingered for wrongdoing in the Russia collusion case.
	The FBI has a system that always seems to benefit the bad actors from escaping the most severe punishment.
	I think today's story only accentuates that.
	A lot of people have reacted to it.
	Former FBI executives saying, hey, this is not good.
	This isn't the way it used to be in the Bureau.
	We've got to clean this up.
	Chris Ray's not taking it seriously.
	So at the end of the day, is Chris Ray going to be held accountable for the fact that this all happened on his watch?
	Well, listen, that's going to be in the hands of Jim Jordan, right?
	He's got one of the most powerful committees for this sort of issue.
	He's off to a big investigative start.
	The question is, what can he do?
	Can Republicans do something in the budget process that says, hey, Chris Ray, if you don't do X, Y, and Z, you don't get your budget next year, or you lose part of your budget, or you're not going to get that jet anymore.
	We're going to ground that jet.
	Those are some of the things that the Republicans are going to have to make hard choices on.
	It's one thing to highlight the problems.
	It's another thing to impose punishment.
	We haven't seen the punishment part of it yet.
	Next week, we're going to see some important legislation coming out of James Comer and Scott Perry, two congressmen.
	They're going to put the first legislation to a vote that will actually prohibit government agencies in the future from contacting big tech and saying, we'd like you to censor content.
	That will be the first litmus test of just how far Republicans are willing to go to start to rein in these issues that we're all concerned about.
	All right, Justenews.com, editor-in-chief, investigative reporter John Solomon.
	Thank you, sir.
	We'll follow the story.
	It's amazing how the rest of the media ignores it.
	Unbelievable corruption.
	I think you have to start all over again, and they need a top-to-bottom clean out at the FBI.
	That's the only way we're ever going to have equal justice and application of our laws in the future.
	I don't know if that's going to happen, but we'll see.
	Thank you, sir.
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	What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
	Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
	Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
	It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
	Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
	Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
	We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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	And I'm Carol Markowitz.
	We've been in political media for a long time.
	Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
	That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
	We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
	We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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	What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
	Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
	Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
	It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
	Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
	Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
	We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
	You put two and two together.
	Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
	Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
	I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
	This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
	What difference at this point does it make?
	Yes, that's right.
	Lock her up.
	Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
	All right.
	So your buddy Mayor Pete, Pothole Pete, finally made his way to Palestine, Ohio earlier today.
	Looked rather silly.
	He's there in his hard hat.
	I don't know what shoes he was wearing.
	They didn't exactly look like the boots I'd be wearing if I was there back in my construction days.
	It was pretty funny to watch.
	But it's not funny for the people of East Palestine that are scared to death about what the long-term impact of not only the train derailment is going to cause their town and city, but the impact on the, quote, controlled chemical burn that they had that has resulted in dead wildlife and dead fish and people also telling stories about not feeling well themselves.
	But anyway, Buddha Judge visits East Palestine 20 days after this derailment and a day after Donald Trump was there himself.
	Is he offering anything of substance?
	Not really, particularly from my perspective.
	Anyway, Nino Parada is a former special agent in charge of the U.S. EPA Protective Services Detail and official of the criminal enforcement and compliance.
	You, Nino, you would have a better idea than I would what the responsibility would be from the government when something like this happens.
	I don't blame the people at all of East Palestine that are concerned about drinking the water and breathing the air and going back into their homes.
	Even though the government is saying, oh, everything is safe.
	I'm not particularly confident in their assessment.
	Sean, first of all, I want to say thank you for having me on your show.
	Honor and pleased to be here.
	Getting to the issue of the Secretary of Transportation.
	Number one, the pointing fingers back to who did this, what president was not engaged or lack of attention to these types of details.
	Let's be clear on something that's very important.
	With regards to the incident in East Palestine, that rail system, Norfolk Suffolk, has a system called a, it's called hot bearing detection systems.
	That system, it gave three warnings to the rail conductors that there was a tremendous amount of heat occurring on that rail car.
	And at some point, after the third, it was at a point of critical detection because the heat was so hot.
	So let's slow down here so everybody can understand what you're saying.
	So when a railway or a rail line is carrying chemicals such as that which was carried in East Palestine, that you can measure the actual heat that is being created as the chemicals are in transport.
	Is that a fair assessment?
	That's right.
	And you can go to the initial report that was just put out by the National Transportation Safety Board that tells line by line for the layman person to read that that actually occurred.
	So pointing fingers to President Trump and saying that he did not do what he needed to do to help prevent these types of incidences to occur is really a very poor leadership approach, in my opinion.
	Look, I've been asked a couple of times already, we have to stop talking about how we're going to improve things, how we need to improve things.
	We need to go back and reevaluate.
	There is so much bureaucracy already in place that if we just follow what we already have in place, I think we will be just fine.
	2012, November 30th, there was a similar issue that happened in Paulsboro, New Jersey.
	Me being a New Yorker, close to heart.
	Basically, one of the tankers fell, dropped 24,000 gallons of vinyl chloride into the Montauk Creek.
	Okay?
	Do you know what they spent to clean that up?
	$30 million.
	What are they handing out down in East Palestine?
	$1,000 checks?
	Are we joking?
	If we use the roadmap of what happened in the past, we can easily address the issues of today.
	There should have been a task force from day one, starting with EPA, OSHA, National Trans, NTSB, Department of Transportation, to name a few, needed to be there, state and local, and lead from the front with federal agencies.
	Okay, so they didn't do that.
	Now the question is this.
	For the people in East Palestine, some are moving back.
	Everybody's being told that the water is safe.
	You even have politicians making a big deal of the fact that they will drink the water in front of people and act like everything's okay.
	Are you confident in any way that, in fact, the water is drinkable and clean?
	Are you confident that the air is clean?
	Do you believe that there is any risk for the people that live there because of the residual fallout from the controlled chemical burn after the derailment?
	Short answer is no.
	Let me give you a couple of pointers that are important.
	Vinyl chloride can affect you when inhaled, right?
	Vinyl chloride is a carcinogen and a mutagen, okay?
	Vinyl chloride can cause reproductive damage, okay?
	If you go to OSHA's guideline, OSHA will tell you that there's a 12-month process that they want you to start immediately in evaluation by medical professionals.
	How can we honestly answer that question with what they're telling us today as being factual when we know already that the experts have told us otherwise?
	That's my concern.
	And as a federal agent my entire career, you know, putting the health and safety of the American people is first.
	And I just don't understand why we are not looking at it this way here in East Palestine.
	This is a serious issue.
	This is as if an enemy of ours dropped a bomb on East Palestine and it was a chemical attack.
	Same thing.
	And we're doing what are we doing?
	The three monkeys.
	Eyes closed, ears closed, mouth closed.
	So, I mean, how will we know when it's safe for the people to move back there?
	Well, the way to handle that is by having updates, daily updates on what tests that are being done and to provide those tests to the unbiased experts so that those people can be engaging our leaders down on the ground in East Palestine.
	This is a long, it's a short-term and long-term impact.
	So the answer to your question is, how would you handle this if a dirty bomb was dropped there?
	I guarantee you, the military would say, evacuate the whole area and port it off.
	Right?
	So let's just use that argument.
	Bomb was dropped.
	It was a dirty bomb.
	Boom.
	What are you going to do now?
	You're going to clear the whole area and it's going to be uninhabitable until the entire area is mediated.
	How do you remediate something that dropped on your roof?
	Who's cleaning your roof?
	And when it rains, where does that go?
	I mean, this is insanity.
	And we took a light approach when thank God for the media and social media for highlighting the issues and bringing experts onto the forefront.
	Now everyone's talking about it and now there's action.
	Is this not true, Sean?
	Is this not true?
	Well, everyone's talking about it.
	There's action, but the people are being told that it's safe to move back, and the people are being told that everything is safe.
	Look at the records that are before us.
	I'm not a smart guy.
	I'm a very common sense kind of guy.
	Do the research.
	It's on the internet.
	Look at the impacts of vinyl chloride.
	Look at the short term and the long term, and you will see that what is being told to us is not correct.
	So your recommendation, if there are people listening in East Palestine right now, your advice, don't listen to the government.
	Don't believe the water and air are clean and safe.
	That's right.
	And I would tell them that if they want to, they look at any hazardous substance documentation that talks about, especially OSHA, about the impacts, the short-term and long-term effects of vinyl chloride.
	Okay, so what's going to happen?
	Because I would assume, like most people that live in paycheck to paycheck, because two-thirds of the country is right now.
	So they don't really have much of a choice if the government is telling them it's safe and they're not going to provide any other alternative housing or living conditions or place to be safe.
	Those people are left on their own, aren't they?
	They're left on their own.
	And I think that the important thing is that that should have happened in East Palestine is the, and looking back at what has happened in the past, is upload upfront the expenses.
	If you have an issue like we had in East Palestine, and you used the argument that I made, which is a dirty bomb attack, right?
	Maybe we should have moved everybody into hotels.
	The government should have gotten stepped in and said, look, we're moving everybody out of there.
	You're evacuating everybody, right?
	By the way, Sean, just let's be clear here.
	This had several days of discussions and evaluation.
	This needed to happen instantly that you couldn't react.
	Remember, the issue started on the 3rd.
	They went until the 5th.
	They started poking holes into these containers, which, by the way, are containers that were approved during the Obama administration, put into effect during the Trump administration.
	So those containers are all of regulation, high-quality containers that hold such a hazardous material.
	So you had all this time.
	Where's the leadership that could have made the right decision?
	Where's the leadership that said, you know what, let's put everybody out of here for one week?
	They wouldn't even issue an emergency declaration for the area.
	It was that bad.
	We're just trying to make sure.
	I'm not an expert.
	I'm not an environmental expert.
	But I could tell you when you have a chemical burn like that and you see dead fish and dead wildlife and you hear about sick people, that's enough to put concern in my heart and mind that things are not up to speed and not safe.
	And what the long-term impact is, anybody's going to know.
	But anyway, Nino Parado, thank you so much for being with us.
	Appreciate your expertise, sir.
	My pleasure and thank you, Sean.
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	All right, let's hit our busy phones here.
	Denise is in Illinois.
	Hey, Denise, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	And I really appreciate your consistent efforts raising awareness about corruption because it's really impacted my family and I for the past 10 years consecutively.
	We have not been free of corruption in the past 10 years.
	So I want to thank you for taking my call.
	Well, thank you for calling.
	What's on your mind today?
	So I just want to talk a little bit about, you know, with the federal government and the role it plays.
	When you're in a state like mine, Illinois, which is really systemically corrupt, we've had interference by the federal government to actually you know, bring forward prosecutions and obtain convictions of our corrupt elected officials because our state fails to really act.
	And there's this like fiefdom that grows.
	And when you get brought into the court system in Illinois like we have, it's kind of like Trump when he said, you know, once you're brought in, there's just no way out.
	And here you have a guy who's a billionaire, president of the United States, and then you're talking about us, just a family.
	You know, there's just no way out.
	And we're watching our entire state being depleted by the millions, and there's no recourse.
	So the only hope that I have is if somehow, some way we can get the federal government involved because the court case that we're in in probate court, Cook County, it's so systemically corrupt that there's just, we have no voice, no rights.
	United States 14th Amendment rights to property interests, I mean, everything is just being legally robbed from us.
	So, you know, when it comes to talking about the limited role of the federal government, for people like me in Illinois, it's really been the federal government to root out the corruption.
	And I just wish there was another way we could bring the federal government at the local level, like in a probate court case, where they've really set it up to just legally rob you and drag it out for years and years.
	It's just, we have no end in sight to end this litigation, this frivolous litigation.
	Look, I don't know all the specifics of your case, but I can just tell you this.
	And I know people that have wanted to, for legitimate reasons, take on local governments or state governments or the federal government.
	And either you're really, really wealthy and can hire the best attorneys and be in this for years and years and years and have the financial resources to fight it, or you're not going to win.
	And that's the sad part because the people that make this country great, they don't have that kind of money that they could just throw around in a lawsuit to get justice.
	So justice comes at a very heavy price for a lot of people.
	And that's sad because I would love to encourage you, but I don't really have a lot of faith in the system.
	And history, unfortunately, has proven me right more often than not.
	But I got to run 800-941-Sean is my number.
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