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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene - February 22nd, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, uh Marjorie Taylor, Green Congresswoman from the uh great state of Georgia, created a fire storm uh when she went out there and said that this country, because it's so divided, is in need of a national divorce.
We need to separate red states and blue states uh and shrink the federal government.
Everyone I talk to says this uh from the sick and disgusting woke cultural clash shoved down our throats to the dangerous, traitorous America last policies.
Uh and uh she joins us now to to talk about this.
Uh Congresswoman, how are you?
Welcome back to the program.
Hi, Sean.
I'm I'm doing well, and you are right.
Apparently I have created a fire storm, but I think it's a conversation that we need to be having.
Uh frankly, I'm I feel sorry for the left.
Apparently, we send them into Trump derangement syndrome fits every time they see a MAGA hat.
I mean, ever since Hillary Clinton proclaimed all of us deplorable, they they can't stand the side of us.
They they don't want to have anything to do with us.
They yell at us and call us all kinds of horrible names.
I think these pay these people need a break from us, but we also need a break from them.
Um so I think it's a good conversation for us to have because we don't want to have fighting.
We don't want to have a civil war, we don't want to have to call the police.
Uh anytime we have major disagreements, I think it's time for us to really start talking about our irreconcilable differences.
Look, I I I want to get into the irreconcilable differences because they're very, very real in terms of political philosophy, ideology.
You know, I I think I speak for a lot of people, and I mentioned this last night, that you know I would like us to remain the United States of America.
I would like that to happen.
I'd like to not go down this road.
Now, can I see a day or foresee a day that maybe California's had it with the rest of the country and they want to be their own country?
I could see that happening.
I could see New York.
Listen, I uh I the last two governors in New York have basically said I'm not wanted in New York.
Andrew Cuomo said it.
Kathy Hokel said it, and by the way, I'm gonna be more to more than happy to accommodate them, hopefully sooner than later, and and leave and take my money with me.
Um, and it's gonna happen.
Um, but my question is is is there not a better way?
In other words, for example, the convention of states, which is something our friend Mark Levin has talked at length about.
Would would that be a better solution?
In other words, that we'd have an ability to make changes that are necessary to our Constitution to protect this this great republic of ours, you know, short of you know having states go independent, which I think could be very problematic for a lot of reasons.
Well, I think it I think it's important for us to have all of these conversations to talk about all the different options.
But it's gotten to the point where, you know, here's what our issue is.
Conservatives and Republicans, all we do is complain, and we point out what the left is doing, and we and we constantly stay in a state of outrage, but yet we never come up with solutions to fix it.
And you know, the Convention of States movement, that would that really got going and it almost was successful, but it it wasn't successful.
It fell short it as of now it fell short.
I think there's I don't remember the last time I looked, I think they were short like six or seven states.
Yeah, at the time they were almost there, and and so but unfortunately, it it didn't get there.
And and so now I'm bringing this issue up and and people have taken it in all kinds of different directions.
And so just to be clear with everyone, number one, it's not a civil war.
Number two, it's not secession, and number three, it's not breaking in the fifty different countries and no longer being in a type of union.
We're still the United States of America.
I'm just proposing that we shrink the federal government and take the power, the the massive power structure that the federal government has away and take that grip of power off of the states and empower states to be their own identity.
So you're saying giving a lot more power back to the states and having a less federal uh less impactful federalized government.
Is that am I understanding that?
Yes, absolutely.
But even I mean, we could even carry it further if if it needed to be, but we still need to have this conversation because we have to solve problems at some point.
Instead of just being outraged and being mad and being constantly ha offended or having our feelings hurt, yelling at the left basically to stop it, you're abusing us.
We have to we have to stand up for ourselves and say, enough.
We're we are no longer going to stay in this relationship with you.
We need to have our own states where, you know what, we'll let you come here.
We'll do trade with you, we'll let you do business here.
We we you know, you can live here if you want to, but we are not going to let you bully us around.
We are not going to give in and give in and give in until we've given everything away because that's what we're doing right now.
We keep trying to stay together and get along, but we can't get along anymore.
We're too far divided.
And and we could go issue by issue to both lay it out, but I think your listeners are so smart, um, and everyone knows our issues.
We just have to figure out a way forward because we're all So you're you're saying a way forward, but remain the United States of America.
However, you're talking about decentralizing power out of Washington.
Is this is this something you accomplish through a constitutional amendment?
Is this something you accomplish through the convention of states?
Like look, I'm I'm not disagreeing with you.
I I don't know, and I'm you know, blessed are the peacemakers.
I'm not going to be the peacemaker here because I don't have the answer.
Um but I don't know where the middle ground is.
For example, how do you reconcile those that want to defund the police, dismantle the police, that want no bail laws versus the rest of us that believe in law and order and safety and security as a pr prerequisite to pursue happiness?
How do you reconcile those that are unwilling to enforce the laws of our land and have border security, those that want open borders and those that want the law upheld, which prevents people from entering the country illegally?
Um how do you reconcile, you know, the the this new Green Deal movement that is against all domestic production of the lifeblood of our economy, energy, and those of us that want to be energy dominant and use the natural resources of which we have an abundance of.
Um how do you c how do you reconcile those that believe in a strong national defense and those that always want to gut defense spending?
Um these are not small differences here.
These are massive issues for people.
They are, and and you've you've outlined them perfectly, and that's why I'm proposing this national divorce, because we can't reconcile those issues.
We've been trying to reconcile those issues and we can't.
And I know that for a fact because this is my second term in Congress and I've spent a lot of time in Washington now, and it is it is irreconcilable.
We cannot come together on the issues.
So in states where they want to abolish the police, then in a in a national divorce scenario, tragically they could do that, and and we wouldn't have any say in it whatsoever.
But in red states where we want to empower law enforcement, we want to fund them, we want to equip them, we want to pay them more money, and we really want to clamp down on crime.
Um we could do that in red states and they they have no right to come and protest it and tell us not to do it.
Um that's that's what we need to happen in this country.
And then the American people, you can pick and choose what state works for you.
If you want to live in lawlessness, if you want to live in a state where um the the teachers can help your child transition without you knowing about it, then that's up to you to do that.
But if you choose to live in a red state where we have safe communities, safe streets where we where we uphold our laws and we protect children and would never allow them to make a a permanent decision about their body um before they're even old enough to get a tattoo or vote.
Well then you can move to to these states.
But we need to establish boundaries because the boundaries have been totally obliterated.
And um, you know, and then we then let me ask you this, because I think the next question is a constitutional question, because our constitution lays out enumerated powers and and talks about coequal branches of government.
Constitutionally, how do you see the means to accomplish this?
Because you're really talking about now decentralizing power away from the federal government and and passing it on to the state governments.
Uh and so my question is constitutionally, where do you see that this is something that could be accomplished?
We we already we already have the the power to do that in Congress constitutionally.
So if we wanted to get rid of the Board of Education, for example, um getting rid of the Board of Education, defunding it and and shutting it down would give the states the power back over their public education.
So that's something that Congress can do and we can accomplish that.
Um and then for example, one thing, national defense would be something that the federal government would still have to provide to all fifty states because that's also constitutional.
And and that is the charter and that is the mission of the Department of Defense is to defend our the borders of all fifty states and and also protect our national security.
So what we would be doing is we would be returning primarily to what our constitution laid out for our federal government to be, but we would be defining um more uh intense like separation between the two parties or the two ideologies.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Marjorie Taylor Greene, the congresswoman from Georgia on the other side, 800-941-SHAWN, our number if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
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Let me ask you this.
When it comes to elections, uh, you're talking about still having the electoral college and one president uh elected president of the United States, and then it would be up to Congress.
I guess every Congress would be different in terms of their appetite to defund or dismantle or take away certain roles that the federal government has taken on as they have you know have bloated their bureaucracy beyond recognition.
Well, this is this is where the pro this is the problem that we're currently in is what you just described.
See, right now it's always The political pendulum swinging back and forth.
And think about it, the American people don't know what to expect every four years.
The rest of the world has no what to expect every four years from America.
And it's because that pendulum of power.
But what we would need to do is decrease the federal government power.
Decrease the power that that is given to, say, Congress to make changes every single time they get the political control.
Because right now we're living under But if you had the power now to decentralize a lot of government through efforts involving the power of the purse and defunding, wouldn't the next Congress, if it's if it's slanted socialist left, wouldn't they just refund those very programs?
In other words, it would be a swinging p pendulum.
Well, I think there's always that danger and risk, and there's a I mean, we could say what if about everything in the future.
And and I mean oh, that's always conversations to have and important things to hammer out.
But I think where we are right now, Sean, is we've got to tackle these problems.
And and I look at it like this the federal government is like an overgrown monster.
It's 34 trillion.
We are on the verge of default, and we have to vote.
We're looking at voting to raise the debt ceiling again.
Um, but there's no slow down in you you talk to Democrats in Washington, they have no intention of stopping spending, and then they just want to point fingers at Republicans and scream Social Security and Medicare.
It's just a broken, broken system.
But if all two hundred and twenty-two House Republicans are united on a plan that would insist on on far more fiscal discipline, for example, uh and maybe include even issues involving the border or whatever you all agree to.
But I because I think the Democrats have determined that Republicans won't stick together, and if they don't, they'll be able to raise the debt ceiling and and concede nothing to to the Republican Party in terms of fiscal fiscal discipline or whatever united you would want.
I take a different position.
I actually think Kevin McCarthy and 221 of your colleagues are going to unite behind a plan and say that either we instill these discipline measures on the economy and on government and not raise our debt anymore, or we're not going to go along with increasing the debt ceiling.
Um I think that's the more likely scenario.
Am I wrong?
Well, I hope we hope that you're right, but I think we've already shown um at how our for how we started out in Congress.
It's really hard to get 22 House Republicans to agree.
And I uh tragically, I think that will be something that America has to see over and over again.
But that's up to us.
We have got to figure out how to come to the table and work together and make sure that we don't hand the Democrats the power.
I definitely like the idea of more power being brought to the states and a more decentralized uh federal government which is bloated and and and way out of control.
And uh I think um instilling any fiscal discipline, instilling discipline in Congress would be a great goal.
Uh, you're not talking about a full divorce, you're talking about a transfer of power.
That's a very different thing.
Uh anyway, uh Marjorie Taylor Green, Congresswoman, we appreciate you being with us and explaining it in more detail.
Thank you.
Yeah, thanks, Sean.
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All right, let's get to our phones as we say hi to Snake Trapper in Alabama.
Is that your name, Snake Trapper?
Sean Hanny, the people in the great state of Alabama want to thank you for being the patriot you are, and it is a honor to get to speak with you, my brother.
It's an honor to speak to you, my friend.
We're glad you called.
What's going on?
Is that really your nickname?
Snake Trapper.
Ah, yes, sir, it is.
I've been known to tap a few uh rep pals and eat a few myself, uh, Sean.
Uh, but what I wanted to ask you about, man, I wanted to get your opinion on if you think that the uh House Republicans, under the uh leadership of Kevin McCarthy, should uh bring articles of peachment against Joe Biden for his quick pro quo in Ukraine.
Listen, uh, I am telling you right now that nothing is gonna happen impeachment-wise.
The only way we're gonna get rid of Joe Biden is to vote him out in November 2024.
You know, I uh you you can sit here and delude yourself, you can hope, you can pray.
All of this, but I'm telling you the best thing that we can do.
Republicans have got to look at elections differently.
Apparently now Donald Trump is even agreeing.
And that means Democrats, they don't shake hands, they don't kiss babies, they don't do press of veils, they don't do town halls, they don't do debates, they don't do anything except they get all this money, hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads, they run those, then they hide in their basement, and then they develop these sophisticated ballot harvesting efforts based on the laws of varying states.
There's only one state that requires the individual to hand in their open pallet, that's Alabama.
Republicans have got to get into the voting early business, the voting by mail business, and the ballot harvesting business as allowed in in each individual state.
If they don't match what the Democrats are doing, then they're gonna start out election day as they have been, down hundreds of thousands of votes and having a hard time to catch up.
That's what has to happen.
And I'm gonna say it between now and November 2024 as much as I can.
Yes, I just believe a uh impeachment trial would be a super good way to really expose the uh government corruption that has been going on uh during this uh Biden uh administration.
Uh it is just horrible, and uh the American people need some closure on this deal.
Uh I listen, I I completely agree.
Um I I hope and pray that this country gets back on track.
Here's the bottom line, and even talking to Marjorie Taylor Green today, you know, she wants more power sent back to the states.
And she's been misinterpreted when she said she wants a national divorce.
She wants to decentralize power from Washington and give more power to the states, which I would love to see as well.
I'd like less of the federal government intruding in every aspect of our life.
Um, do I think that's gonna happen easily?
No, I don't.
I don't think any of this is gonna happen easily.
The only way we're gonna make this country great again and better again is to elect better politicians that are gonna fight for the principles that we believe in.
Right now, they're in power.
Right now, Joe Biden's your president.
Right now, they run the Senate.
Republicans have have one half of one branch of government, that's all they got.
And they're doing the most they possibly can and hopefully setting the stage for an agenda that would save the country.
But as of now, Democrats, they hold most of the cards, and we don't.
Now they can use the power of the purse and the power to subpoena.
So far, you know, they've used the power of subpoena very well.
Let's see what they do on the debt ceiling and whether or not they stay united and insist on fiscal responsibility measures in exchange for any increase in the debt ceiling.
That would be the next challenge that I think that they have.
Uh anyway, appreciate the call, Snake Trapper.
Glad you're out there, man.
Jennifer Missouri.
Jennifer, how are you?
Oh, hi, Sean.
Thank you for having me.
Uh, thank you for calling.
Glad you called.
Yeah, so I wanted to kind of give your listeners like a ray of hope here because I'm 39, I'm a millennial, I'm from a red state, and I moved to a very, very blue city.
And I thought for a very long time that I was kind of like alone on an island, and I couldn't really talk amongst my peers here just because our views are so different, you get shouted at, and you know, the whole cancel thing.
You know, that's very real.
That happens.
And this might be anecdotal, but over the last three years, I have noticed a marked shift in all of my friends, even the ones that are so far left, you know, they they drank the Obama juice, all of this stuff, and now they're coming to me and saying, Oh my gosh, this stuff this is crazy.
This is nuts.
This is not what I wanted, you know, and of course I always get it.
Well, you voted for it, you know.
Um, but I think that there is uh this is anecdotal, but at least for professionals that are in this millennial generation, I've noticed this huge shift in oh my gosh, you know, with the COVID response, and then now you get you know, all the trans issues, all of these things that the the people that I thought were going to double down and be just completely left are coming to me and saying, My gosh, you were right.
You were right.
I I can't believe I voted for this.
I can't believe I did it, you know, and they're really changing their mind.
So I kind of want to just tell you that that's anecdotal, but I am in a really big city.
I'm a professional with uh, you know, friends with professionals, and even those ones that I thought were so far left that they were just gone, they're coming back over.
Um so I see the pendulum swinging now.
Um, one of the major reasons is people see it's not working.
You know, once it starts to hit people's pocket on their credit card that they never thought they'd have to put on their credit card before, uh people are suffering financially, and all of this is needless.
A lot of it is rooted in the radicalism of this this new Green Deal Democratic Socialist Party.
Look, this this is their religion, climate cultism.
This is a religion to them.
You know, it makes no sense at all that we're now importing oil from Venezuela, three million barrels a day.
We we're now gonna prop up Venezuela and make Venezuela rich again, and we have more natural gas, oil, and coal than they do, and we don't need their oil, and we're paying a premium price for it, we'd all be paying a lot less, and we'd be creating high-paying career jobs for Americans, and it would be good for national security not to be relying on other countries.
And and they keep making these dumb mistakes.
And it is it unfortunately based in an ideology.
Now, has the American public shifted enough that they will overwhelmingly vote Republican?
I'm not there yet.
I don't know if we've experienced enough pain yet.
However, uh, if we we better be getting close to the point where, you know, there's a tipping point here.
Because there comes a point with the country, especially with debt deficits, all of this money.
You know, we're projected now to go to you know 50 trillion dollars in debt.
How do you ever pay that money back?
We're we're stealing from future generations.
And all to pay, you know, for their radicalism.
Even Joe Moment, uh Joe Biden, a weak moment admitted, uh, we're not gonna, we're still gonna need oil and and gas for a long time.
And he said a decade, and I would argue it's many decades away.
Now, if you want to develop new technologies that are cleaner and cheaper, I'm all for it.
But they don't have that technology today.
And and yet we're getting incentives to buy electric cards that people don't want, can't afford that pillages the earth in the in the interim, and by the way, is powered by a grid that is 90 percent of power from Washington to the states.
Um, the only way that's gonna happen is if you elect people that are willing to, you know, give or cede some of that power to the states.
You know, New York is gonna be New York, California is gonna be California.
New Jersey will be New Jersey, Illinois will be Illinois, but Texas will be Texas, Tennessee will be Tennessee, the Carolinas will remain the Carolinas, and Florida's gonna be Florida.
And that's why you see this mass migration, you know, from these blue states to these red states.
Anyway, good call.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Uh let's say hi to Patty in West Virginia.
Patty, how are you?
Hello, Sean.
I'm good.
Um I appreciate you taking my call.
I've never called in before.
So I just wanted to um to something that that really bothers me is the inattention to the WHO pandemic treaty and um and everything that goes along with this.
I've seen very few um articles or discussion about it.
And it basically, I think, leads us into the one world order if it's passed.
Well, look, if if our government this week, and I can't believe I had a report on this story, wants to cede power and authority over how to handle a pandemic to an organization that was fully completely beholden to and corrupted by the communist Chinese government uh during the COVID, you know, pandemic.
Why we would ever cede any authority to any world government?
As far as I'm concerned, the WHO, I want no part of them.
I want no part of the World Economic Forum.
I want no part of the United Nations.
I don't want any part of any of these international organizations.
They have never shown themselves to have America's best interest at heart.
You know, we pay seven billion dollars a year to fund the United Nations, and my attitude is give it to China.
Let them have the traffic.
Let the world travel to China every year and see up close and personal uh the lack of freedoms in China.
Maybe that'll open their eyes a little bit instead of all these people with diplomatic immunity that come to New York and ruin the lives of New Yorkers for two weeks every year.
Well, however many times they meet.
Um, but no, I wouldn't give the World Health Organization one ounce of power.
We'll continue.
We have a lot to get to tonight.
Now, here's the question.
Now that the jury four person and the super grand jury has spoken out repeatedly all over the media mob, um, does that in fact jeopardize any and all of the potential indictments?
So she says anywhere between 12 and 20 indictments uh that they were recommending.
Remember, this is not a usual grand jury.
This was a super grand jury, and the decision was uh whether they would take it to a regular grand jury, but that's not the point here.
Because as we've been reading all afternoon, uh there are rules and laws governing grand juries and giving interviews to everybody in the press uh is not on the list, uh, especially in such a giddy and and clearly biased fashion from my perspective.
Anyway, kind of cringe worthy.
We'll show you all of it tonight, nine Eastern on Hannity on the Fox News channel.
We'll get to that.
And we're gonna have President Trump's trip to East Palestine.
The mayor of East Palestine will join us as well.
We'll play for you this jury for person that has been all over the media.
Does this jeopardize any indictments?
Uh, Senator Tim Scott tonight, Greg Jarrett tonight, Dr. Sapphire, uh, Jimmy Phaela, and Joe Concho, live studio audience.
By the way, if you want to come to one of the Hannity shows, just go to Hannity.com and you can sign up uh for any of those shows uh down the line in the future.
All right, that's all the time we have for today.
Thanks for being with us.
We'll see you tonight at nine back here tomorrow.
Thank you for making this show possible.
Thank you.
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