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This is Jeffrey Lord, again sitting in for our vacationing friend Sean Hannity.
We are looking forward now to talking with one of America's great attorneys, David Schoen, who was also, of course, President Trump's attorney.
And hello there, David.
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Thank you very much.
Great to talk to you.
Well, David, you know, I've got a a whole long list of things to talk to you about, but I I'll I'll try and uh limit it.
But I did want to start with the the Trump tax return dump.
I mean, uh just as an American citizen, uh I this is outrageous, is it not?
And my question to you is how legal is this?
I think it's outrageous.
Um I think there should be and will be some legal challenges to it.
Listen, the uh the committee to get the documents in the first place had to show some legislative purpose.
But the idea now, first of all, you know, politically, practically, it's a horrible mistake, which will come back to bite them, of course.
But the Wall Street Journal did an interesting piece about it today, just about the fundamental unfairness of it and the unfairness of the reporting on what the documents themselves say, because you know I suppose the committee is banking on the fact that nobody's really gonna read things for themselves and they'll just read the partisan political message they put out.
And uh the Wall Street Journal kind of points out that that message isn't even accurate.
No, but I think it's a terrible, I think it's a terrible mistake, and I think it's gonna hit everybody wrong.
And the more they do this, I think the more it backfires.
This kind of thing certainly ought to pump up uh President Trump.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it is amazing to me the number of things that people like this do that absolutely backfire on them and and work to President Trump's advantage.
One of the other things I I wanted to talk to you about is, you know, what is going on with the FBI.
I mean, here is a uh uh supposedly a gold standard American institution.
And you know, I went back and took a look, David, because I'm old enough to remember some of this stuff.
Uh there's uh uh an author, uh Ron Kessler, Ronald Kessler, who wrote a very detailed book on the history of the FBI and all of this sort of thing.
And one of the things that I remembered off the top of my head, and I've gone back in and looked, is that J. Edgar Hoover w had this uh curious, interestingly uh interesting habit.
He would send uh a memo to President Kennedy or to Robert Kennedy, Robert Kennedy being uh, of course, for our younger audience that John F. Kennedy's brother and attorney general of the United States and his uh nominal boss is attorney general.
And they would say things like, Well, we have an agent who's reported in that President Kennedy was married once, and we we have some contact.
And then they'd say to Robert Kennedy, well, we have an agent who's reported that you're having an affair with a woman in El Paso.
To which Robert Kennedy said, I I don't I've never been to El Paso, so and then the kicker was this was all bipartisan.
Richard Nixon comes along and he sends a memo to Nixon that, well, we've got an agent who says you're having an affair with a woman from China.
Um let's just say the conduct of the FBI in the past has not been uh all on the up and up.
And now we've got this.
What are you what are your thoughts on this?
I mean I just find some of this behavior appalling with Twitter and all of this kind of thing.
Right.
I I think it's frightening.
You know and I say this um my father was an FBI agent.
Wow.
But uh so I've always been very proud of that connection quite frankly.
I think scrap scrapbook about it and so on has been a wonderful agency most of the time also.
But I think that the Twitter connection now is one of the more shocking episodes we've seen.
I still don't think we know uh probably half of the story, it's pretty shocking.
I mean being used clearly for political purposes.
Um and not just that we see you know other um missteps or intentional missteps by the FBI in the Mueller investigation and so on and then former heads of agencies backing it up former heads of agencies passing along the story that the Hunter Biden laptop was probably a function of you know Russian collusion all of it is crazy stuff.
But these are people who the public credit with great uh sort of as having great integrity and so on head of a CIA head of national intelligence or something like that.
It's a very scary proposition.
It's not I haven't seen that before in this country.
No and it what worries me here is you get the feeling and I worked in Washington for a long time for a congressman Senator President Reagan and then in the Bush 41 era for uh Hut Secretary Jack Kemp.
Oh well and it it just it just seems to me that this has become I mean the thing that keeps coming back to me is like junior high school where you've got the in kids and the cool kids and then you've got the you know the sort of geeks that are not part of it and all of this kind of thing.
And in Washington, you're either part of that you know cool kids collection or you're not and most of the people there, or a lot of the people certainly they live in the same neighborhoods, they work in the same buildings and they could be Republican and Democrat.
But they socialize together they're working together and it creates this mindset that they're sort of in charge of the whole thing with the American people have to say about things.
And that I find really disturbing and I think we're seeing signs of this mentality here in all of these revelations that are coming out.
I think you've put your finger on something very important and I think at some point you know the American people are getting fed up with it.
They uh you know I did a show on MSNBC the other day and the host Ari Melbur spoke about bipartisan January 6th committee and I said there's absolutely nothing bipartisan by the committee.
And then he had a guest on and said it was remarkable that we see the two branches of government the executive branch of the legislative working together.
There's nothing remarkable about that in this scenario they all have a common purpose and that is you know among other things keep Donald Trump off of the ticket for 2024.
But how much are we getting sort of uh distracted by all of this?
There's so many things uh positive things to do that the American people need to have done and there's this fixation in just about every setting with uh you know trying to stop Donald Trump at all costs.
That's the tax return business that's the January 6th referral and so on.
It's uh depressing.
Yeah it it is it is very depressing.
And I and I think it's dangerous.
You know it's one thing for Americans to sit around the kitchen table and if there's Trump supporters and Trump but never Trumpers, that's fine.
That's that's the conversation.
But when you're dealing with the world of Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping and North Korea and Iran and all this kind of thing, this kind of attitude and focus can be exceedingly dangerous.
You're right 100% right.
You know uh one one thing I I'd like to say is uh what we've always been proud of in this country I think is keeping a sense of integrity about our processes we're a fair-minded people I think generally and I think most people would say that there was nothing fair about for example this January 6th committee and I think that has implications in a number of ways.
Number one, if you feel you have a strong case, why do you have to rig the deck all you know one kind of same with the Mueller investigation.
And secondly just independent of whether they have a strong case or weak case the only the their work is only important to the extent the American people believe in it.
And you automatically with the composition of this panel determined at least half the public wouldn't believe in it.
Take for example, I mean if you believe as I do that the events of January 6th were important and we ought to get to the bottom of things then why not just put nonpartisan people in an investigative body.
Instead of all of the people in Congress you pick Chairman Thompson to lead the so called investigation.
He filed a lawsuit against President Trump, alleging Trump was responsible for the events of January 6th, and that he, Chairman Thompson, was personally injured.
That's probably the last person I think a fair minded American would expect to head up an investigation.
You have I'll wrap it up in a second, but you have Schiff and Raskin who have written books on the subject.
They have a vested interest in ensuring that the committee comes out with a conclusion consistent with their books.
Why have testimony before be uh behind closed doors for witnesses you don't think are going to be favorable to your story?
Why put on heavily edited TV produced um you know hearings for for public consumption?
Why make comments during the course of your investigation about how you want to send people to jail and Liz Chaney goal is to stop President Trump from becoming president.
The Washington Post did a telling piece last month about this.
They interviewed 15 staffers, and the staffer said, We got involved with this thing to try to do some fact finding.
We didn't think it was going to become Liz Cheney's 2024 campaign to stop Donald Trump.
That's what it is, and now all of the focus is on the criminal referrals and so on.
And now what?
You're gonna criminally refer them to a Justice Department where the criminal section headed up by Lisa Monaco and Andrew Weissman actually.
That was on my list of things uh to to talk to you about here.
Uh and this this gets to some degree of uh what we're talking about about a network of people here and how they abuse these positions.
Uh Lisa Monaco, uh what is her former title?
She's in the Justice Department, uh she deputies.
She's what's the case?
Number two person, yeah, in the Justice Department.
And Andrew Weissman, of course, was a key player in the uh Mueller investigation.
And they worked together for years.
Um and you know, when you when you look at uh this committee, and and uh again, as I say, ha having worked in the House, and for that matter the Senate, but in this turn this case in the House, one of the things she learned very quickly is there whether it's Republican or Democrat, there's a majority and a minority.
And the purpose of that setup and the minority is to question the the majority.
And and I mean President Trump was in that in essence uh blocked from any defense.
There was no one called, no one who could offer a different view of President Trump.
And that was designed on purpose.
I mean, that is that is a w uh uh a witch hunter or a lynch mob, as it were.
And consistent with that, by having no ranking member, minority member on the committee, which as you have just pointed out, is there to be a buffer to hold the other point the other side honest.
There was no cross examination for any witness.
And so again, this fellow on this MSNBC, Mr. Melbourne, said, What do you think about this evidence and that evidence?
I said, I I I refuse to legitimize the process.
Unless that evidence was subjected to cross-examination, it's like watching a trial where just the prosecution goes forward, there's no defense, and then you're asked to come to a conclusion.
Well, you never heard any cross-examination, you never heard any other side of a story, you never heard any explanation for testimony.
How can anybody possibly give that any credibility?
That's not the American way.
Well, one of the things that I have suggested, and I I made this suggestion, I I asked her a question of uh uh Steve Scalise, I think it was, who came to an American spectator dinner uh some time ago and was open to questions.
And uh I said, you know, will there be an effort if if Republicans take control of the House to investigate the January sixth committee?
I mean, I just think that uh we should be going there.
And uh uh y you know I and I said I said today before you came on, I said to the you know, memo to the January sixth committee, save your text emails and phone records and that of your staff.
Uh one of the things that really got to me was uh I mean, since I'm sitting here on Sean Hannity's show, was they were releasing his private communications, his emails or text or whatever.
Well, you know, a member of the media, can you imagine if if somebody out there in the government had released the private communications of uh somebody from the New York Times or MSNBC, they would they would they would go crazy and they should.
And they should.
Or as you say, fellow members of this committee who actually do work for us.
Unlike Sean Hannity or the New York Times, these folks are our public servants.
Right.
And to get away with this in our name is is just very, very wrong.
But and so what are we gonna see now?
Payback with the next Congress and all that.
At some point, somebody has to step up and say, let's move forward in the interest of the American people, the American projects, and you know what's good for our country, not just the personal combinations and that sort of stuff.
It's just it's really gotten everything is partisan politics now.
It drives every agenda.
Right.
And I I mean this has to be uh well, you know, I'm not necessarily here for t tit for tat, but one of the things that I think is is this has to be dealt with in such a fashion so that it will never happen again.
Yeah.
And uh the I mean the the whole stacking of the committee and all of this kind of thing, and as you say, no cross-examination.
I mean, who's heard of that?
I mean, this is a country that you know loves to pay attention to lawyer shows, and they all know you you get you get the right to to to defend yourself and to ask questions and all that, and that simply was not allowed.
That's right.
And in in every trial or adversarial proceeding that anyone's familiar with, you know, you get a very different perspective once cross-examination starts.
It's not just whether the facts are the facts as the person sees it, it's the motivation behind them, it's the context of those facts, it's the motivation potentially of the witness to miss state those facts to evade you know trouble for him or herself, all of those things.
But there's not eight each witness was produced as you know, a hero.
People who people on this committee absolutely hated before because they were associated with President Trump.
Now, if they tell the story they want to hear, they're heroes.
Yeah.
That's exactly what we see in you know, organized crime cases.
People who were, you know, killers are now portrayed as good guys who just wanted to come and do the right thing.
No, they wanted to help themselves, avoid any problem.
Well, David, it's been a joy talking to you.
Uh Merry Christmas, happy new year, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, happy Hanukkah.
All of that.
And uh we'll see you in the new year and we'll buckle in.
Great.
Thanks, Mary.
Thank you very much.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity.
We only have about a minute here, and then when we come back, we are going to be talking to Kentucky Congressman James Comer.
The Congressman is slated to be the new chairman, uh-oh, of the House Oversight Committee.
And I can only suggest, I hope he's get resting up for Christmas because he's going to be one very busy guy when we get into this uh New Year's.
There is a lot of oversight to be done, and I'm sure he is hard at work on this already.
So we're looking forward to that.
And uh on we will go here.
We've got uh We've got uh all kinds of uh activities, I'm sure, for everybody around the country here as we roll into Christmas.
So let me just say Merry Christmas, and I hope at some point we'll get some calls in here.
And I am Jeffrey Lord of the Word of the Lord Podcast and the Jeffrey Lord.com, and I hope you'll take uh uh some time to visit with me over the holidays.
And maybe read your book.
And my book.
Oh, Linda, there was a book.
Did you know that?
Swamp Swamp Swamp Wars, Donald Trump and the New American Populism versus the old order.
Very sticky.
And welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
This is Jeffrey Lord from the American Spectator, Newsmax TV, uh, my book Swamp Wars from a whole bunch of places here, the American Spectator, as I say, and we are delighted to welcome to the show here uh Congressman James Comer from Kentucky.
The Congressman, as I said, is slated to become the new chairman of the House Oversight Committee.
And uh I can only imagine, Congressman, uh thanks for being here.
What a task you've got ahead of yourself here.
There's no shortage of oversight in the Biden administration, and sadly the Democrats haven't provided any over the past two years, and hopefully that'll change in a few weeks.
Yeah.
Do you have any sort of uh I'm sure you do outline of where you're going?
I mean, you know, the obvious ones like uh like Hunter Biden and all that, but I'm sure there are others that may not be front and center in a lot of people's minds that are are front and center with with yourself and your colleagues.
Yeah, we're very concerned about wasteful spending.
I mean, if you go back the last two and a half years in the name of COVID, I mean, it's it's ridiculous.
The unemployment insurance fraud, uh, the PPP loan fraud, the stimulus fraud, the state and local government money that was doled out with no safeguards in in the last or next to last stimulus bill that Biden passed.
The list goes on and on and on of hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of dollars wasted, and no one's been held accountable, no one uh has gotten a final tally of of how much was wasted, and and you know, sadly you you do a lot of investigations to to try to prevent history from repeating itself,
and you know, it's just like there's no worry in the world from the Democrats and sadly a few Republicans in the Senate about how much money's being wasted, so that's going to be a priority for us in January.
Yeah, well, that's that's a good thing.
I was saying we had uh Congressman Scott Perry on uh earlier, and he who happens to be my congressman in Pennsylvania.
He's a great American.
He is, he is indeed.
And I was saying to him that in the long ago and far away I was the legislative uh director and budget committee staffer for Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania.
And it was my it was my task to read these things.
And it was just appalling what was in them.
I mean, they were huge.
And at one point when President Reagan came to uh address Congress and when I was working for him, he he had people didn't really know what it was.
It was a huge stack of papers next to him on the podium there.
And finally he gets to the subject of the budget and says, you know, this is what you sent me, and he goes through a struggle to lift this thing up and says, and if you send me one again, I won't sign it, and drops it on the on the podium with a loud resounding smack, which got lots of cheers from Republicans.
But here we are all these years later, and this kind of thing is still going on.
And I, you know, I I sometimes despair that you can ever shut this off.
Well, it's pretty discouraging.
I'm I'm at a low point in the six years of my time in Congress.
I've never been so discouraged seeing what's going on with this omnibus spending bill.
I mean, all Republicans have talked about over the past twelve months and and during the midterm elections was you know the wasteful spending at the CDC with Dr. Fauci and the National Institute for Health with uh Dr. Collins, and then you go over into the Department of Justice with Merrick Garland and the FBI and all this wasteful spending.
Every one of their budgets are not only fully funded, they received more money in this omnibus bill than President Biden even requested from Congress.
So no one's held accountable.
And what what makes it hard for me as an exchairman of the oversight committee?
We want to bring these bureaucrats and These agency heads in front of the committee and grill them.
We want to ask them about uh who authorized who authorized the FBI to pay Twitter three and a half million dollars, you know, who who authorized the FBI to create eighty new employees to be uh ministry of propaganda for the FBI.
And what's happened is when the Senate went along with the Democrats that omnibus spending bill, every one of these agencies is funded for the next twelve months.
So there's not going to be a sense of urgency from these department heads and cabinet secretaries to even come before Congress for a long time.
No, that's that's absolutely right.
And I and I'd like to ask all of the stuff that we see coming out of the bureaucracies, particularly the FBI and the Department of Justice.
Is there a plan to look into, you know, who did what and you know with all of these groups here uh I mean again, having worked in Washington a long time, uh you know, it was very clear to me that there's a whole cadre of uh career bureaucrats.
Right.
Uh and they they think presidents come and go and all this, and they're really in charge.
And what particularly attracted my attention in the day, this would be it was January of twenty seventeen, a full eleven days after Donald Trump was sworn in as president.
And the Washington Post ran a front page story about all these uh career bureaucrats who were plotting to you know screw up his agenda and overturn it and block it wherever they could, and they were reaching out to former Obama staffers and all this kind of thing.
Well, that's bad enough as it is, but when you get in this kind of thing into the Department of Justice.
Wow, that's that's pretty dangerous, I think.
It is dangerous, and we are gonna make a priority to identify all the wrongdoing and hold people accountable and go a step further and try to reform the FBI and and the Department of Justice.
And the person that's gonna lead that is Jim Jordan, and I don't think anyone would question whether or not he has any fight in him and whether he's not.
He's uh he's a high energy guy, like like Trump would say, you know, and and I mean he's he's passionate about it.
I know he's on my oversight committee.
Of course, he's also chairman of the judiciary committee.
We work together on a lot of things.
A lot of my investigations overlap with stuff judiciary is doing with respect to the Department of Justice.
So uh I can tell you he's the right guy for for the job, and you know, he's he is as outraged as anyone listening to your show right now about the wrongdoing in the FBI you know from an oversight standpoint.
I mean who who authorized this they don't have the authority not just to to censor free speech, but they don't have the authority to create these massive divisions with eighty employees and to dull out, you know, we've heard three and a half million dollars to Twitter, just think how much they gave Google and Facebook for the same thing.
And then, you know, we learned recently they tried to offer you know a million dollars to anyone that could validate the steel dossier.
I mean, who gives them this this authority to spend this money?
Congress doesn't.
Right.
This is a this is a uh an instance of the deep state and and the other bureaucracies that do just exactly what you said the Washington Post sighted when Trump got elected.
They do whatever they want.
And unfortunately, nobody in Congress has tried to stop them, and that's gonna be a priority for Republicans in in the House, but I tell you I'm not I'm not feeling a uh sense of urgency from our uh Republican colleagues in the Senate because one way to stop them, one way to get them to come before Congress and and spill the beans on what's happening is to threaten to hold up their funding.
Yes.
Yes.
We just you know, uh just a few minutes ago the Senate approved their funding for the next the next year and and we're gonna vote against it in the morning in the House, the Republicans, but you know how it's gonna go.
Pelosi will get every Democrat to vote for it.
I'm looking I'm looking at uh Chiron on Newsmax that says the GOP House members vow retribution for senators who voted for the omnibus.
Yeah.
I mean, I just voted against uh uh some little bill that Murkowski had uh just a minute ago and uh you know just I'm frustrated with Murkowski.
I'm frustrated with all those Republican senators that did that.
I mean there there's no what who do they mean do they not listen to the voters?
I mean the voters of America are are angry.
They're they're mad because of inflation.
We have inflation because we're spending too much money.
Not only did they not make any cuts anywhere, they significantly increase spending for the next twelve months.
I mean what a slap in the face to every voter who said in the midterm elections they wanted to flip the House of Representatives and they wanted to uh make inflation the number one issue in the in the midterm.
I mean it it's just unbelievable that there's this big of a disconnect between what the people of America want and what these these members of Congress are are voting for today.
I suspect in the case of Senator Murkowski her main constituent is Senator McConnell.
But I I one of the things that uh has has occurred to me and others it's certainly not original to me and one of these and I've suggested this as a matter of fact to President Trump quite a while ago that Republicans in Congress should be pushing for term limits for the bureaucrats.
So that if you if you sign on to work in what the Department of Energy or wherever you stay ten years and you're out.
I think that's a great idea.
I mean I I'm for term limits for members of Congress I'm for term limits for for bureaucrats.
I'm for term this is where I differ from a lot of Republicans.
I'm I'm for term limits for Supreme Court justices.
I mean and federal judges.
I mean it it's uh if you want to fundamentally change Congress I will just talk about Congress here.
If you just want to fundamentally change Congress for the better two things that that that can be done tomorrow that will make a a difference long term and that's term limits and passing a balanced budget amendment because the only way Congress will ever balance the budget is if it's required.
Right.
Because if it's not required you're not gonna get a yeah I mean there we're increasing the debt every day.
The deficit grows every day.
We're we're not even I mean there's no leadership in Washington right now that's serious about balancing the budget much less uh trying to pay off any of the debt.
No and you know the thing that really bugs me about this is that people float along as if there's not going to be a consequence for this.
There will be consequences.
There you know we will have to pay the bill literally and figuratively for this uh down the road and there just seems to be no realize of this they think they can operate in a vacuum here and that's the end of it.
That's right.
And you look at because we've spent so much money we have inflation.
Because we have inflation the Federal Reserve's had to raise interest rates.
Because we have a national debt of thirty trillion dollars our interest payments on the debt could be over a trillion dollars a year now.
I mean it it's it's spiraling out of control and members of Congress know that but the average person doesn't really think about that.
The average person doesn't you know I don't think can care comprehend how big a trillion is.
Right.
And and then at the end of the day, at the end of the day not only do they not try to make modest cuts, they they increase the budget, increase it even more than what Joe Biden requested and you know Joe Biden doesn't give a crap about the the national debt.
No he certainly doesn't he certainly doesn't.
Well and yeah you add all this in as we've talked about it Title 42 and and the border agents and all of this all of these people streaming it uh uh at will over the border here and we can't even get the president to go down there and eyeball the situation which the rest of us are are are can see plainly on television and and he's responsible for this.
I just you know w where where is the federal government in doing all of this and and you've got all these people border patrol and all this complaining about it.
This is serious and there will be a price to pay for that.
We're paying the price every day I don't think the taxpayers realize how much is being spent On housing these migrants and transporting these migrants and providing Medicaid for these migrants.
And think about that.
When people are out struggling to pay their health insurance premiums and pay their deductibles and copay, these people who Joe Biden's welcoming across the border every day, they're getting it for free.
Because if you have Medicaid, you get free health care.
And then, you know, the kids end up in the public school systems, that they're having to take teachers away from uh, you know, American students, and provide a special teacher that speaks a special language for these uh immigrants that have that have uh crossed over the line and and you know there's a misconception that they're all from Mexico.
I I've said for a long time.
Anybody from Mexico that wants to come to the United States, they're already here.
These these people are from Africa, they're from Europe, they're from Asia, they're from Central America, they're from South America, they speak, you know, dozens of languages.
And that's uh an unfunded mandate on the school system when they have to uh you know provide a public education for them.
So the expense to the taxpayers is enormous, and then you throw in the fentanyl that's coming across the border and and the death rate and the crime rate and and all of the expense involved with that.
I mean, it you you can't even put a price tag on it, but yet here we are in Congress, and the senators can't agree on uh even doing anything to try to secure the border, much less give it Title 42, which is the one tool in the toolbox.
Well, Congressman, I I hate to say this, but we've got to run, but thank you very much for coming on the show.
Have a Merry Christmas, and uh we will be watching you next year for sure, and good luck.
Thank you.
Congressman James Comer from Kentucky.
This is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for Sean Hannity.
And you can see my pod you listen to my podcast at the The Word of the Lord, but with Jeffrey Lord and also my website, the Jeffrey Lord.com.
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And boy, are we seeing that play out.
See you on the other side.
This is Jeffrey Lord, in for Sean Hannity.
We have a great show coming up with Michael Schellenberger.
We're gonna talk about uh Twitter and all the things that he has discovered.
So please stay tuned for that.
And then we will uh we're gonna keep talking about it.
Jeff's crushing it.
We're gonna find out about Twitter drop number seven.
Yeah, the Jeffrey Lord.
Yeah, right, exactly.
Uh, not to mention uh the word of the Lord.
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