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Hello, America, and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
And as all of you in Sean's audience have instantly detected, I am not Sean Hannity.
Sean is on his annual Christmas vacation, taking some seriously well earned time off to rest and relax before the new year, which I suspect will be another crazy year.
So we shall see.
In the meantime, I am Jeffrey Lord of my Word of the Lord with Jeffrey Lord Podcast, which is of course to be found on my website, the Jeffreylord.com.
And as some of you may know, I am a contributing editor of the American Spectator, a columnist for the Media Research Center's newsbuster site and a newsmax TV contributor.
We have a great show for you today.
Congressman Scott Perry, the chair of the House Freedom Caucus, will be here to update us on the status of the Republican race for House Speaker that features House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy with a challenge from Arizona's Andy Biggs.
Next we will have on David Schoen, a great American attorney, well familiar to those of us in Sean's audience.
We will be talking about the latest reviving revolving around the conduct of yes indeed, the FBI.
Then we will have Kentucky Congressman James Comer.
The Congressman is slated to be the new chairman of the House Oversight Committee.
What a job he is inheriting.
Just this week the Congressman said he had learned that at least eighty FBI agents had worked with social media companies on an unauthorized quote disinformation task force, unquote.
He will be here to give us an update on the oversight investigations we expect to see, we can expect to see in the new year.
And trust me when I say the Congressman will be one busy guy with the cleanup from the Pelosi area.
Then we will be talking to journalist Michael Schellenberger.
Michael, as you may know, is one of the independent journalists who has been tapped by Elon Musk to sift through round seven of the Twitter files.
And what Michael has uncovered is just stunning.
Chilling, I would say.
As a result of what he has discovered, Michael is calling for Congress to probe revelations the FBI and intelligence community work to quote unquote discredit the Hunter Biden laptop story ahead of the 20 presidential election.
So we're looking forward to our chat with Michael.
Now, let me start off talking first about the disgrace that is the January 6th Committee and what a four-star disgrace it is.
The committee can clearly be called a witch hunt.
It had a predetermined outcome.
They hate Donald Trump.
That's what they're all about.
And as it ends its run, it has now issued a 154-page report.
And what does it say?
It is referring criminal charges against President former President Donald Trump to the Justice Department.
Specifically, and I want to go through this so you know what's going on here.
Specifically, the committee recommended that prosecutors pursue four charges against former President Trump.
One, obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress.
Two, conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Three, inciting or assisting an insurrection.
Four, and conspiracy to make a false statement.
Now, we're on a family show here.
So let me put it this way.
What bunk?
Linda, Linda, no no no.
So let's go through these bogus charges one by one.
First of all, President Trump did not obstruct anything.
He addressed a completely peaceful rally on the White House ellipse.
I was there before the events at the Capitol, I was not there.
A rally Where he said to the tens of thousands gathered to hear him, he said I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
Now, there was not a single word said, as you could hear, about obstructing, quote unquote, an official proceeding of Congress.
But if protesting the counting of the results of an election is obstruction, then there is the matter of Maryland Democrat Congressman Jamie Raskin, who was also not coincidentally, a member of the January sixth committee.
Democrats, in fact, tried to stop the certification of the Electoral College vote in the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections.
Among those Democrats was Congressman Raskin himself, who tried to reject electoral college votes to declare Trump the winner in 2016.
So knowing that Mr. Raskin was obstructing an official proceeding of Congress, as he and his committee are charging former President Trump with, where's the criminal referral to the Justice Department for Congressman Raskin?
The answer is there isn't a criminal referendum because Mr. Raskin is a Democrat and a Trump hater.
And the January sixth committee is about nothing, if not double standards.
Second, the committee charges President Trump with a conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Got that?
Demanding election integrity is now, quote, a conspiracy to defraud the United States, unquote.
There is no mention that Twitter and its various pre Elon Musk lefties were going out of their way to defraud the United States by deliberately blocking that New York Post story revealing the serious news of the of Hunter Biden's laptop.
We now know for a fact that a significant number of Americans have said that had they known about that post story, they would have voted for Trump.
What Twitter did in suppressing this blockbuster story is yes indeed, deliberately rigging an election, something that was done with the backing of no less than the FBI, as Elon Musk has revealed.
The third charge against President Trump is that he incited or assisted an insurrection.
Again, what bunk.
First of all, it is a fact that President Trump authored offered to authorize 20,000 troops to protect the Capitol, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused them.
Over there at our friend John Solomon's Just the News website is this headline, quote, Trump Pentagon first offered National Guard to the Capitol four days before January 6th riots, memo shows.
Official Capitol Police timeline validates Trump's administration account and shows the Democrats'fateful rejections of the offers.
Seems absolutely illogical, one official wrote about the security posture that was hours before the riot began.
Now, that's the headline.
And John opens by reporting this: "The Pentagon first raised the possibility of sending National Guard troops to the U.S. Capitol four days before the January 6th riots, setting in motion a series of rejections by Capitol Police and Democrats that left Congress vulnerable as threats of violence were rising, according to government memos that validate Trump administration officials'long-held claims."
An official timeline of the January sixth tragedy, the story goes on, was assembled by Capitol Police, and it shows that a defense department official reached out to a Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher on January second, twenty twenty one to see if a request for troops was forthcoming.
But the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then Chief Steve Sund.
And who exactly was responsible for this rejection?
That would be you guessed it, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Cash Patel, then the chief chief of staff to the event's support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate Argin Sergeant at Arms, who report to Speaker Pelosi.
Now we have, said Mr. Patel, we have it in their own writing, in their own writing, days before January sixth, and despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence was put up, unquote.
In other words, against the advice of the Trump administration, President Trump's offer to have thousands of troops to protect the Capitol on January sixth was rejected by Speaker Pelosi.
Now, you know who else had responsibility for protecting the Capitol?
That would be Congressman Raskin.
And why?
The U.S. Capitol Police are under the joint jurisdiction of the House Administration Committee and the Senate Rules and Administration Committee.
Who is the second ranking Democrat on House Administration?
That would be the Democrats January 6th Committee member, Maryland Congressman Raskin.
And oh by the way, who sits on the Senate Rules and Administration Committee that has a role with this?
That would be, yes, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.
Which is to say, in the style of the famous Senator Howard Baker Watergate question, Democrats from the committee need to be answering, Mr. Raskin and Mr. Schumer in particular, they need to know of the warning of impending violence and what did they do about it?
And yes, this goes for Speaker Pelosi as well.
There can, at this juncture, appear to be only one of two possible answers.
Either Mr. Raskin and Mr. Schumer knew of the intelligence report that warned of impending violence and did nothing, thus making possible the ensuing riot that had been warned about, or Mr. Raskin and Mr. Schumer did not know of the intelligence warning of potential violence,
indicating a breathtaking level of sheer incompetence when it came to their most basic task in overseeing the Capitol police, ensuring the physical safety of the Capitol building, their House and Senate colleagues, their staffs, and any and everybody else whose job required them to be physically present in the Capitol and the Capitol Complex.
So, suffice to say, the idea that President Trump incited or assisted in any way in an insurrection is pure partisan bunk yet again.
And then there's charge number four that President Trump conspired to make a false statement.
Say what?
To question the integrity of an election is a conspiracy to make a false story?
As it happens, the release of all the Twitter files that we're seeing now shows beyond doubt that there was in fact a serious effort by big tech to rig the 2020 election.
There is zero faults about it.
So what do we have here?
What we have is a corrupt January sixth committee.
It is ruthless.
In January of nineteen eighty one, my old boss President Reagan was asked at his first press conference how he proposed to deal with the Communist Soviet Union.
President Reagan's response is a perfect description of today's January sixth committee.
He answered this way.
The Soviets, he said, have quote, openly and publicly declared that the only morality they recognize is what will further their cause, meaning they reserve unto themselves the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat, to steal, which is exactly a description of the January sixth committee.
And when Republicans take control of the House on the agent on the agenda should be an investigation of the January sixth committee itself and every one of its memos.
My memo to the committee, save your documents, your text, your emails, and your phone records.
And while we're on this subject of President Trump instigating an insurrection, let me go back in time a bit.
When I was growing up, the protest against the Vietnam War were raging.
Leading the opposition to the war were three Democrat United States senators, all of them who would one day run for president.
Senator Robert Kennedy of New York, the brother of then the late President Kennedy, Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota, and Senator George McGovern of South Dakota.
So in October of nineteen sixty seven, there was an anti war protest in Washington.
It began at the Lincoln Memorial.
But then, as reported in the history of the U.S. Marshals Service, attention shifted by the crowd to the Pentagon.
The Marshall Service reported what happened next.
Quote, at 5 40 PM, a determined crowd of 35,000 headed for the Pentagon.
A smaller segment at the front stormed forward, scaled the walls, and forced their way into the Pentagon.
The deputies and soldiers were taunted and assaulted with vegetables, rocks, and bottles.
The troops inside the Pentagon rushed outside as the violence esticated escalated.
A full scale riot erupted.
Now, in that current atmosphere that that particular protest occurred in, that deserves a look if we're gonna use the standards.
The January 6th committee is applying to President Trump.
If those standards were applied in 1967, you can be sure that Senators Robert Kennedy, Eugene McCarthy, and George McGovern would all be charged with instigating an erection.
It would be ridiculous, of course.
Just like this charge against President Trump is ridiculous.
But beyond that, what is being done with these so called criminal referrals against Trump is nothing less than the criminalization of American politics, which will stain forever.
The historical reputations of all those involved.
We'll be back.
Hello, everybody.
This is Jeffrey Lord once again sitting in for my friend, our friend Sean Hannity, as we uh roll down the next couple days to uh yes indeed, a Merry Christmas for one and all.
And uh I'm sitting here looking at our friend Linda.
It's my pleasure to be looked at by you, I tell you.
It's a nice change of pace.
I'll tell you what.
It's very, very nice.
Well, it's uh you know, the American political cycle goes in in strange ways.
You know, things get really heated after the first of the year, and then they go to like Thanksgiving, and then they stop dead in a tracks.
And uh It's kind of like New York traffic.
Stops dead and distract, it gets really heated, you flip a couple birds, you tell people how much you don't like them, and you wish them a Merry Christmas when it all starts to move again.
It's a wonderful, beautiful thing this time yeah.
But it's like I can't wait to go to New York.
I'm like, what is wrong with you?
I can't wait to get out of this place.
It is the absolute worst.
I mean, anyhow, I did this yesterday with Joe Conch.
I couldn't stop talking about how horrible it was in the traffic, but I'm gonna move on from that, and I'm gonna tell everybody to stay tuned because you're Jeffrey Lord, host of the Word of the Lord.
You're about to bring it down with Congressman Scott Perry.
I will.
I will indeed.
On the other side.
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Uh you're uh hopefully be sitting back and relaxing here these uh Christmas holidays.
Of course, you gotta do all the cooking and the relatives and all of that kind of thing, which may keep you otherwise occupied.
Well, tell us, I mean, are you gonna talk about politics at your uh dinner table this Christmas?
Uh no.
Is it a hard no?
Uh yeah.
Uh well well, you know, I and I love my beloved family dearly.
Um, but we do have in our midst uh people who do not uh agree, and we've just uh long since realized you know, just to do it when there's so many other things.
As I as I literally often say, there's more to politics, there's more to life than politics.
And by the time you get to Christmas, probably the last thing you do want to talk about is politics.
I know that's how I feel anyway.
Yeah.
So you know, uh if uh there's a couple of them that are probably listening.
Uh hello, Judy and Bruce, uh who are probably listening.
Uh they liberals?
Uh no.
No, they are uh Damn.
I was gonna say something really funny for that.
But hi, Judy, hi Bruce.
But the all the rest of 'em uh are are good uh good people of uh other views, and uh and that's just fine.
We learned this stuff from our parents.
Uh you know, our parents, my my parents in particular were very political, you know.
Um they had started out in in Riverhead, Long Island, moved to uh after that small event known as World War II, where my dad was uh captain of artillery in the Pacific and the battle of Lady Gulf, and he came home, married his high school sweet cart, uh aka mom.
They moved into New York City to work uh in the travel business, and then uh from there, uh when I decided to make an appearance, they decided to pick a new town totally, not go back to Riverhead, you know, so they could spread their wings.
And they picked Northampton, Massachusetts, which was very historic uh town, and my father was soon elected to Calvin Coolidge's old seat on the Northampton City Council and was the Republican City Committee chair, and my mother was the chair of the Hampshire County Republican women.
And uh it was great, and in lieu of a babysitter, they took me with them everywhere.
So literally, as a child, I'm going to Lincoln Day dinners, I'm meeting U.S. Senators and Governors, and I'm uh going to city council meetings and my mother's meetings.
Uh so how many photo ops were you used for it when they were kissing the babies?
Is that you, like in every single one then since your parents dragged you along?
Uh sometimes, sometimes, and then and then it was also me uh who crawled around underneath the table at the Lincoln Day dinners.
There's a reason that you ended up working for Reagan.
You know, when you start that young, you're like, listen, I've been doing this for 25 years and I'm 26.
They're like, I don't understand.
Oh man.
So it was uh it was a great time.
But they really their their best friends were Democrats.
And uh I got to I had the privilege at that point we lived in a in a two-family house and they were upstairs, and they would come down in the kitchen and they'd have these long conversations into the night right off of my bedroom.
When people actually talk to one another.
Yes, yes, and I would hear them going on about Nixon and Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower and the people of Joe McCarthy, the people of the day.
But it was all very civil and respectable and you know, to their dying day, they were all friends.
Not to mention that the couple's uh two uh teenage daughters became my babysitters.
How convenient.
So how convenient.
So uh it was it was great.
But I really did learn a lot from that.
And uh I I think it's very important to uh to be that way and not go crazy when uh you hear opposing points of view.
Um Abe Lincoln and and Stephen A. Douglas went all around Illinois and had pretty distinctive debates.
Um so uh it's great stuff.
Well now, speaking of great debates and great members of Congress, uh I am talking to, I believe, Congressman Scott Perry from Pennsylvania.
Is that correct?
That's correct, Jeffrey.
Good afternoon.
How are you?
It's already be late, just got off the walked off the floor.
No problem.
And I want the audience to know that I often describe Congressman Perry as the best member of Congress, and there's a reason for that, and that is because he is my Congressman.
And he does a he does a great job, was re-elected, and uh it's just too bad there's nothing going on in there.
Oh my goodness, it's amazing what's happening right now, Jeffrey.
I mean, um the fact that we're being jammed in the House uh with this with this omnibus on you know it looks like it might get here tonight by eleven o'clock or something like that.
So it's you know just a day or so before Christmas Eve and all set up that way to make sure that they could fill it with all kinds of pork and then um have people concerned about Christmas not paying attention and and you know Jeffrey I mean I'm sure you've kind of seen the reports on it thousands of of earmarks and literally we're gonna protect the the border in Tunisia but it in the bill it says we can't use any of the money to protect our own border.
That that's literally the kind of stuff that's in this one point seven plus four four thousand one hundred pages plus another couple thousand in report language pages of a bill um and this is how we're running our country.
I mean th this is just uh unacceptable and I have to say in the long ago and far away as you know I worked for Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania and he was on the budget committee so I it was my task to read some of this stuff.
And I remember President Reagan in the day standing up front for a State of the Union message and next to him people didn't quite know what it was.
There was this huge stack of paper.
Huge well it was the the budget document and and the president then you know starts talking about it and says this is what it is and you know being an actor he goes through this struggle to hold it up in front of the cameras and he says if you send the send one of these to me again I will not sign it.
And dropped them with the thud on the podium.
Here we are all these years later this hasn't changed.
Now the the culture in Washington absolutely some something has to give right this this process that we're in of continuing resolutions and omnibuses where we literally Jeffrey we haven't had you know the process is this.
You know this process right the House passes uh its budget and the Senate passes a budget and then they they do the appropriations there are twelve appropriations bills so that's all the that's all the spending that fits under the budget top line numbers.
So you figure out how much you're gonna spend that your budget and then you figure out what you're gonna spend it on.
The House passes its version the Senate passes its version.
They're probably not going to be exact so they put it together in what's called a conference committee and they work out the details and send it uh to each body for ratification.
That which I just described hasn't happened since 1996.
Wow wow well yeah here we are and we which leads me to to something else here I have been reading your op-ed in the York Daily Record.
And for our readers uh it says uh Representative Scott Perry Kevin McCarthy must lead Congress out of the status quo or step aside Wow I I think there's one heck of a battle going on there behind the scenes.
Talk to us a little bit about it.
You know this was a great piece explaining where you were on this and and why.
Yeah I think it's important for folks to know I I would just characterize it as this and I'm gonna refer to Einstein generally who said that you know doing the same things over and over again and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity and what we're poised to do is kind of the same things under the same conditions with the same people and think something's going to change.
And I just am not willing to uh to accept that uh Jeffrey I you know I ran for Congress as most people do because you think things are screwed up and you want to change them.
The last thing I think you want to do is just come in to Congress and then just do what's always been done which is what most members do.
And I just don't think the country can withstand that and I think that we just saw an election where by all rights Republicans should have really had a lot more victories.
I mean the economy just the general circumstance uh with the presidency, the failures in Afghanistan and internationally generally um our energy policy you name it the things the kitchen table issues of people not being able to pay the bills and yet we weren't allowed we weren't able to get more Republicans elected and I think one of the reasons is is we did not have messaging that inspired people and and we didn't do things that inspire people.
What we did uh was the same things we're doing here today which is spend us into bankruptcy and uh give no reason for people to see a big difference between Democrats and Republicans and so I'm making the case that something has to change in Washington DC in the House.
We can't change the Senate, right?
They've already got Mitch McConnell and they're doing their what they're what they're doing there.
And the presidency's not is not up right now.
But what is up is we have a we have a new majority coming into Congress on January 3rd and we have an opportunity to change the leadership there or change the way we're doing things.
And we've offered, and and Jeffrey, just so your listeners and Sean's listeners know, um, we've been working since last summer uh on these proposals, changing the way we do things around here, and quite honestly, we were kind of sent packing every time we went and said, Look, we want to we want to review these things.
Maybe these aren't the right ideas, but what ideas do you people have that want to be in leadership to make a difference here?
And we were kind of told, you know, these are all very nice.
We'll see you later.
And that happened a few times between uh the summertime and the fall.
But Jeffrey, I'll tell you when it changed.
It changed the day after the election.
I came to Washington, DC uh that next Wednesday morning, and then people wanted to talk.
And they still want to talk now, but there's a great reluctance to make changes.
Um and I just don't see how we're going to get different outcomes.
And so we either got to change the process or we got to change the personnel.
And so far, we're trying to have productive conversations and we're open to all different ideas, but I'm committed to not being for the status quo here in Washington, D.C., I'll just put it to you that way.
So we'll see what happens on January third.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh you know, I guess uh there's sort of a Christmas sabbatical, if you will, but I have to believe things still go on behind the scenes there.
Uh and I would just hope that this gets resolved by January third.
Because the last signal you want to send to all of America is that we're in disarray and we can't get our act together, and the people that want the jobs can't you know aren't willing to to do them and buckle down and do the hard work.
Uh, you know, basically is to borrow from President Reagan.
Well, here we go again, you know.
It's it's just not good.
Without a doubt, Jeffrey, and look, we are all working diligently to try and resolve it before January third, but I think all of us are committed to um to doing it right, and if it takes a little after January third, then that's gonna be more important than uh just moving forward with the status quo and then trying to hope that it gets better over the next two years.
And so I tell people that say to me, Well, what happens if we don't have a speaker on January third or maybe even January 4th?
And I say to them, you know, I believe on January 3rd, speaker or not, the sun's gonna come up, babies are gonna be born, people are probably gonna go to work and and life is gonna go on and and we're gonna figure it out.
Uh it's not the first time that we've had disagreements like this.
It's been a while.
But let's face it, I mean uh Congress has a very low approval rating for a reason.
Yes.
And people just don't think that we're either capable or willing or interested in in helping them in their daily lives, and they see the debacle that's happening right now with these thousands of earmarks and trillions of dollars in spending as their interest rates are going up trying to cool inflation, we're throwing gasoline on the fire here in Congress, and and people say, well, what's the point of all this?
Why do we elect you people if if you're not gonna listen to our will?
And and so look, we we hope to not have this uh this this uh argument, so to speak, in public on January third.
But if the folks that want to lead are unwilling to commit to these changes, then something's gonna have to be done, Jeffrey, and uh I don't know how else to say it other than that, but I assure you we would rather just get into the investigations and the oversight that we need to do.
But let's face the fact, no matter what bill we pass in the House of Representatives that's gonna do great things, it's not gonna see the light of the day in the Senate, and it's not gonna be passed uh into law and signed by Joe Biden, right?
Generally speaking, that's the case.
The only thing that we have is the power of the purse, which we have been as a as a House of Representatives completely reluctant to uh uh to use to our advantage, and and we have this oversight and investigative uh opportunity.
I think we absolutely need to do that, but we need to be mindful of what we can do, and we need to focus on that.
And the fight is the spending fight, and right now, Jeffrey, as we sit here, the spending fight is being taken off the table.
All the leverage until next September.
So all these new members of Congress that are coming in on January third might as well sit on their hands until next September because that's the next time that's when this omnibus expires.
It It funds the government and all the policies till next September.
So when the border is being overrun by people and we want to do something about it, we have no leverage whatsoever.
All right, my friend, we're out of time, but it was great to have you on, and Merry Christmas.
Congressman Scott Perry.
And you are listening to Jeffrey Lord of uh the Word of the Lord Podcast.
And I am sitting in for our great friend Sean Hannity.
Right back after this.
Hello, America again.
This is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for Sean Hannity.
Uh Jeffrey Lord of the American Spectator and uh the Jeffreylord.com and the Word of the Lord and of many Lincoln dinners as a baby.
Shh.
We're not supposed to tell those stories.
Right, it's a deep dark secret.
Uh so join us, uh, stay with us here.
We're gonna have uh our friend David Schoen, who is one of America's best attorneys.
He was uh a defender of President Trump uh during the whole impeachment phoniness, and uh he will be here, and we're gonna get into a few things the FBI, the January 6th Committee, and yes, the release of the Trump tax returns.
So hang in there, and we will see you very shortly.
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