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	All right, hour two, Sean Hannity show, toll-free.
	It's 800-941, Sean.
	If you want to be a part of the program, we had this report come out yesterday.
	NBC reported a statement that contradicted President Biden's claim that Russia offered to free only Brittany Greiner in exchange for this, you know, merchant of death.
	And they said Biden said this was not a choice.
	NBC News later reported that a senior U.S. official told them that the U.S. government had sought both Greiner and, of course, the gentleman of Marine we've been talking about, Paul Whalen, and released as part of the swap with the Kremlin.
	But the officials said Russia was treating Whalen differently and that the Kremlin offered either Whalen or Greiner or nothing at all.
	That contradicts exactly what the Democrats said.
	Anyway, here's John Kirby trying to clear this up.
	It is accurate.
	They have set up a separate set of expectations for Mr. Whalen than what they had set for Ms. Greiner.
	The deal that we got with Ms. Greiner was the only deal we could get, and now was the only moment we could get it.
	So we took advantage of that to get one American home.
	But as the president said, we're going to stay focused on Mr. Whalen.
	This was not, as the president also said, some choice between the two.
	So I would push back on this notion that we deliberately, you know, we chose Brittany over Paul.
	There was only one way to get one American home, and that was this particular deal.
	So we're going to stay at it.
	We were working on it yesterday.
	We're working on it today.
	And I can guarantee the Whalen family that tomorrow and every day hereafter, we're going to continue to work to bring Paul home.
	So anyway, I don't understand while I'm still sitting here.
	These are the words of a devastated Paul Whalen.
	He broke his silence from this Russian penal colony.
	His brother slamming the catastrophic exclusion of his brother, rightly so.
	I'm ready to go home, the former Marine said.
	Now, he's been behind bars for four long years here.
	There's no evidence at all that he committed any crime.
	Greiner in her case, it was kind of a slam-dun case, a minor issue involving marijuana, but it still broke the law.
	And we have no evidence at all that what Putin is saying and Russia is saying is anything but a lie.
	Congressman Mike Waltz accused the White House of putting celebrities over veterans.
	Also, Saudi Arabia reportedly played a role in this.
	Anyway, joining us now is David Whalen.
	It's his brother Paul, who in fact is still in this Russian prison.
	Sir, welcome to the program.
	I'm so sorry to you, to your brother, to your family.
	This has got to be pretty heart-wrenching for all of you.
	It is.
	Thank you for having me.
	And yeah, it's a very difficult, very difficult couple of days.
	I read your initial comments, and you are extraordinarily gracious, happy that Brittany Greiner was released.
	Then this NBC News report comes out.
	I'm sure you read it.
	What were your thoughts on it?
	The one about that it might have been an either-or situation?
	Yes.
	Yes, no.
	I assumed that that was a misstatement.
	That doesn't sound right to me.
	It's not what we understood was happening, and I'm sure that it was just a misunderstanding.
	We have always understood that the U.S. government had made a two-for-one offer of a concession to the Russian government.
	That's what was reported back in the late summer.
	And it's not surprising that they didn't go for two-to-one.
	Russia always wants parity.
	But I don't think that there would ever have been a position where there would have been an either-or between the two Americans.
	Well, if you look at, for example, your brother, I mean, he's a Marine.
	He served in Iraq.
	The United States gave up one of the biggest arms dealers in the world, the most notorious arms dealer in his time.
	You know, he earned his name.
	Victor Boot did, the merchant of death for good reason, profiting off of weapons that fueled international conflicts, especially in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia, and accused of helping arm cartels as well.
	And he previously served in the Soviet Union armed forces.
	This is hardly a fair deal by any objective measure.
	So I'm a little bewildered by the fact that NBC would make such a report because they did cite senior U.S. officials.
	And I doubt they would have cited senior U.S. officials had they not spoken to senior U.S. officials.
	So maybe I'm more suspicious because of the nature of my job, but I am suspicious nonetheless.
	You have spoken to your brother.
	He knows about Brittany Griner's release.
	He knows about the prisoner swap.
	He knows he wasn't part of it, and he has no knowledge of when he's getting out of jail, does he?
	No, I think that that's the real issue we have here is that he's been there for four years, and initially in the first couple of years, two names had been floated as possible exchange candidates for Paul, Konstantin Yarashenko and Victor Boot.
	And both of those Russians have now gone home from U.S. custody to Russia.
	And in this last attempt to bring Paul home, bring both Paul and Brittany home, the U.S. government appears to have gone through a long list of other concessions.
	Who knows what they were, whether they were people or things or ideas like reduce sanctions on somebody.
	I don't know.
	And apparently Russia didn't go for any of those either.
	So I think the real difficulty for us here, and probably for Paul, I'm sure he's done this math too, is, well, if they haven't gone for anything that the U.S. currently has in its control, then what does Russia want and how does the U.S. government acquire it?
	David, let's talk a little bit about your brother and about his case and when this nightmare began.
	I guess it was before 2018 when he was finally sentenced, correct?
	He was sentenced in 2020.
	He was arrested in December of 2018.
	And he's being charged with being a U.S. spy, correct?
	Right, yeah.
	In the same way that the Russian government used to do it with paper, and they did it with American Nicholas Staniloff, and then again with Edmund Pope, they slip you information in a packet that you can't see.
	And so the digital version of that is a USB stick.
	And they gave Paul a USB stick.
	He was entrapped in a hotel and arrested.
	And the rest is history.
	You know, it's unbelievable.
	And I hope Americans are listening to this and learn.
	Maybe taking a trip like Bernie Sanders did to the former Soviet Union to honeymoon is not necessarily a good idea.
	How many years is your brother sentenced now?
	He has served four out of a 16-year sentence.
	Is there any other avenues that you've tried over the years?
	Is there any third-party broker that maybe you can go to if the U.S. doesn't have anything else left in its arsenal to offer?
	Are there not any other prisoners that Russia would want back besides the merchant of death?
	Well, that's the trick.
	I think in the past, we were often looking at nation states dealing with terrorist groups.
	And so in that case, you could send in a military unit.
	Had a lot more options if you wanted to retrieve your citizen.
	When is another nation state, a sovereign nation, who is essentially the hostage taker in this case, and it's Russia, it's China, it's Iran, it's Syria, it's Egypt, you don't have those tools, and it becomes very difficult if those countries aren't going to be persuaded, and they do need to be persuaded.
	You have to have perhaps punishments like sanctions, or you need to have a concession that you can release.
	We had thought about with Paul that it might not be people, it might be things.
	You know, the Obama administration had taken properties from the Russian government that they had in the U.S. for their embassies and consulates, and the Russian government has wanted those back.
	So we thought, well, maybe that would be a fair exchange to bring back a tourist who is kept by the Russians.
	But I don't think we're there.
	Was that ever offered, to your knowledge?
	I don't know.
	We try to send suggestions to the U.S. government.
	Obviously, there are people who are far more specialized within the U.S. government who are looking at this too.
	And I think, again, Paul is unfortunately in the middle of an evolution of the U.S. government.
	Certainly over the last four years, it has just changed and changed and changed.
	And then with the executive order last summer, there are now people who are tasked to come up with a strategy on how to prepare for this and how to not be caught only after the detention has happened, but to be thinking about it in advance.
	When you hear the reaction, the DEA agent, for example, at Helput, Victor Boop behind bars slammed this deal, said, quote, we couldn't even get two people for the world's most notorious weapons trafficker, former Kremlin aides, they are saying Putin outplayed Biden on the prisoner swap.
	I think that's just stating the obvious.
	Even some top Democrats are blasting Biden over releasing this guy.
	Bob Menendez, for example, in New Jersey is one of them.
	Senior defense officials are concerned that he's going to resume his arms trafficking.
	There is a bipartisan backlash to all of this because the price was so high and Brittany Griner's offense so minor in comparison.
	Let's talk a little bit about how your brother's being treated.
	Is he able to tell you in a conversation, knowing that he's probably being listened to?
	Is he able to describe for you what the conditions are?
	He is, and they do record a lot of his calls.
	There's always a guard standing there, and he's able to speak to our parents on almost a daily basis.
	And it's as bad as you probably can imagine.
	It's six days of working in a sewing sweatshop.
	They're long days.
	There's not very much food.
	There has been less food since the Russian invasion of Ukraine because the sanctions are obviously hitting the Russian economy and that trickles down to the prisoners.
	So he's lost weight.
	He has found an equilibrium.
	He has found survival tactics that he uses.
	So things like getting up in the morning and singing the U.S. national anthem is both something that helps him have a ritual or a routine.
	It's something that irritates the guards and the Russians.
	So he does those things to survive.
	And I think he's doing the best he can.
	But mentally, you've got to wonder how he's been doing this for four years, and now he's just had a huge disappointment.
	How does he face to do this for another 12 years?
	Is there anything that the people listening to this program can do to show support?
	Is there, for example, an address?
	Does he get mail?
	Is he able to get food or even simple things like toiletries or anything like that?
	Is that allowable?
	The two best things they can do is that if they're able to financially support Paul, there's a GoFundMe at gofundme.com slash free Paul Whelan.
	And that money goes into a prison account that we then buy those things because you're not able to ship those to him, but we can buy those things for him in Russia and have the U.S. Embassy will then get them to him.
	The other thing is, and it's much simpler.
	What are the things that he would be able to have, if you don't mind me asking specifically?
	Oh, it's things like apples, oranges, bananas, fruits and vegetables.
	Those are not supplied by the prison.
	If he wants protein beyond the two inches of fish he gets a day, you know, we send him peanuts and things, but all of that has to come in Russian packaging.
	So it's that sort of stuff.
	And he does receive that sort of thing.
	How do the other prisoners there treat him?
	And does he have any means of communicating with most of them?
	I would assume they mostly speak Russian.
	Well, the U.S. Embassy is really good.
	They take a package.
	He's allowed one package, which is why we ask people not to send him any packages.
	He's only allowed one package every quarter, and they're really good, so that's how we know he gets the things.
	The labor colony he is in has other foreigners, and so there are two Americans there.
	There are a couple of other English speakers.
	And he's learned a couple of words in Tajik.
	He's learned a couple of words in other languages so that he's able to communicate with other prisoners and avoid getting punished by the guards for not having his uniform shirt on right or not wearing his hat right at formation and things like that.
	Is there any abuse that you know has taken place?
	Have they tortured him at all?
	It's gotten better.
	It was bad up until, what, I guess it was almost a year ago.
	And then the warden then was arrested and has been charged for corruption and since been sentenced to three years to spend in another colony.
	So, you know, the corruption is all the way to the top from, well, from Putin all the way down, I guess I might say.
	The last year has been much better since that warden left.
	Paul had been put in solitary periodically.
	Obviously, the U.N. considers 15 days in solitary to be torture.
	And so Paul has had a number of stints there.
	There's theft, you know, when we sent him medicine.
	Sometimes it gets as far as the prison, and then guards will steal it.
	So, you know, it's not a great existence.
	We do the best we can to support him.
	And he, I think, does his best to survive.
	Does he have access to doctors if he gets sick?
	In an emergency, there is a prison hospital.
	They tend to actually send him to the prison hospital when they don't want him to see what's going on at the labor camp.
	So recently, the Wagner Mercenary Group came to recruit prisoners to go to the Ukraine war, and they shipped Paul off to the hospital.
	He didn't have any illnesses.
	He didn't get any treatment when he was there, but that's where he went.
	So in an emergency, there would be some health care nearby.
	All right.
	So if people want to help your brother out, he's been there now four long years, and he's got a long stint to go moving forward.
	If the government's not allowed to get him out, it's got to be heartbreaking for you and your entire family.
	You have a GoFundMe account.
	What's that address again?
	GoFundMe.com slash FreePaul Whelan.
	And then the other thing you can do is to write to the State Department Consular Services.
	And if you go to freepaulwheland.com, there's an address there.
	A letter, a card, anything to let him know that he isn't forgotten would be a huge help.
	With the war in Ukraine, mail to Russia has stopped.
	The U.S. mail doesn't go to Russia.
	Russia mail doesn't come back.
	And so he's been cut off from a lot of the mail that we used to be able to send him.
	So cards sent to that address will go to the State Department, and the State Department will then make sure that they get over to Paul.
	And yeah, they're a real lifeline.
	I mean, the State Department has been just such a huge help for Paul and for our family.
	What I'd like to do is we're going to put this up on my website, Hannity.com, because many people might be driving and obviously can't remember that address.
	But we'll put all the information if you want to help out David's brother, Paul Whalen, in this Russian prison.
	And, man, I feel bad for you.
	I feel bad for your brother.
	I feel bad for your whole family.
	It's a travesty, and it's got to be so disappointing in light of the magnitude of this prisoner swap and the disparity in this swap.
	Certainly, your brother should have been included, in my view.
	Anyway, we'll put that up on Hannity.com.
	David, our prayers are with you and your family and your brother.
	Thank you for being with us.
	Thanks so much for having me, Sean.
	We'll continue.
	Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
	And I'm Carol Markowitz.
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	And I'm Carol Markowitz.
	We've been in political media for a long time.
	Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
	That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
	We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
	We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
	So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
	You're our kind of people.
	Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
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	All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
	We'll get to your calls in just a second.
	800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	Now, radio is a very small industry, even though you hear about, you know, thousands and thousands of stations around the country.
	It's a relatively small business.
	Jeff Smullion is the founder, CEO, chairman of the board of Emmis Communications Corporation.
	He has a new book out.
	It's called Never Ride a Rollercoaster Upside Down.
	The Ups, the Downs, the Reinvention of an Entrepreneur.
	He spent 50 years now building this successful media company of his.
	And it's a pretty interesting life story among many of his accomplishments.
	You were the founder of American All Sports Radio.
	I think that turned out okay for you.
	What's going on, Jeff?
	How are you?
	Sean, it's good to talk to you.
	Yeah, that one worked out pretty well.
	You know, when you look at all sports radio, I mean, it's everywhere.
	I mean, I would say every market now has two, if not three, or four, all sports radio stations, right?
	Yeah, and I have a favorite saying, the line between being a genius and an idiot is very fine, and I've been on both sides.
	And when we wanted to put WFAN on the air, nobody wanted to do it in our company, and they finally did it as a favor to me.
	And it was called Smullyon's Folly for a long time.
	It was Jim Lampley called the Vietnam War of Emmis.
	And so I was pretty much an idiot.
	And then one day we merged with NBC.
	We put Don Imos and Mike and the Mad Doug on, and it worked.
	And so I became, I went from idiot to genius on that project.
	By the way, Imus was a friend of mine, and he had the most wicked sense of humor.
	I mean, he was so obnoxious in his text messages to me.
	And I just used to give it right back to him even harder.
	But what was it like dealing with him in his younger years?
	I dealt with him when he was older.
	He was still crotchety and cranky, but he was not as nasty as he was in some of those early years.
	No, he was, yeah, I think Don was born crotchety.
	He definitely was.
	But he was funny as hell.
	A great broadcaster.
	Yeah, he really was.
	And it was so much fun working with him.
	And he used to call me the Hillbilly from Indiana.
	So, yeah, so be it.
	I don't know if too many hillbillies from Indiana.
	So you've owned a major baseball team.
	Tell us about that.
	Well, you know, one chapter in the book is Idiot to Genius, which is a story of WFAN.
	And the next chapter is Genius to Idiot, owning the Seattle Mariners.
	I was sort of the boy wonder when I went out there, and we were sort of the turnaround wizards.
	And when it did work, I became a pariah pretty quickly overnight.
	So I definitely went from genius to idiot on that one.
	But we made a lot of friends.
	Well, I mean, look at everybody that owns a football team now.
	I don't care what you paid 25 years ago, you made a fortune.
	There's no doubt about it.
	So I guess it's hit or miss in any of these businesses, sports in particular.
	It really is.
	So you've had to manage people like Don Imis, David Letterman, Ken Griffey Jr.
	You've even been nationalized by an ally of Vladimir Putin.
	I'm not sure what that exactly meant.
	Tell me about it.
	Well, we own the national network in Hungary.
	And we, you know, were basically nationalized by Victor Orban, which I didn't know at the time, but he was, you know, as you now know, he's pretty close to Vladimir Putin.
	And he basically just took the two national networks and nationalized them.
	It was an interesting experience.
	I never thought it would happen to me.
	Tell me about Letterman, another crotchety old guy.
	David worked for me.
	It was the first radio station he worked for.
	He was a weekend weatherman, and we hired him, and he was absolutely, absolutely brilliant.
	Very funny guy.
	Did all sorts of crazy things.
	One day, he announced that the city of Indianapolis had sold a monument in the middle of town to Guam so that they, Guam, in exchange, gave us a 350-foot celery stick.
	And people said, You can't sell our monument.
	And he said, But look how much greener downtown will be with a 300-foot celery stick.
	That's a pretty good line.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Yeah.
	He went on to have a fairly successful career, wouldn't you say?
	Yeah, David's the best.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, I've known him forever.
	He was on our board and just a brilliant guy.
	Fun guy.
	What about Ken Griffey Jr.?
	Well, I'm biased.
	I thought Kenny would have been, if he had been healthy, would have been the greatest baseball player who ever lived.
	He was a human highlight reel.
	And, you know, I think in the book I talk about the fact I've known two incredibly great athletes, Peyton Manning and Ken Griffey Jr., and they were the opposite.
	Kenny was the natural.
	Peyton was a guy who studied film, you know, 24 hours a day, worked at it harder than anybody.
	And in his younger days, it changed a little bit with Kenny, but in his younger days, he was just a natural.
	And people said, well, you know, he's not studying pictures.
	He's not analyzing things.
	And he didn't need to.
	He was just, you know, he could hit anybody.
	You know, it's amazing the difference between natural talent and those that outwork people.
	I would argue my work ethic is my greater strength in my case.
	But yeah, I have the same issue.
	I don't have that much natural talent.
	I will tell you this: I do have a pretty good eye for spotting talent.
	Whenever I see somebody on television, that I can tell almost immediately if they've got that it factor or whatever it is.
	You can't even describe it sometimes and stand out.
	And I've been proven right on a number of occasions and have helped people become stars in their own right to whatever extent they've wanted to.
	Anyway, the book is fascinating.
	Jeff Smullyon is the founder, CEO, chairman of the board of Emmis Communications.
	His new book is Never Ride a Roller Coaster Upside Down: The Ups and Downs and Reinvention of an Entrepreneur.
	We'll have a link on Hannity.com.
	It's on Amazon.com.
	It's in bookstores everywhere if you want to read it across the country.
	Some great anecdotes.
	Brings you inside a lot of great stories, and you're going to learn a lot.
	Jeff, we appreciate your time.
	Thanks, John.
	It's a pleasure.
	800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	All right, let's go to Jack in Florida.
	Jack, how are you?
	Glad you called, sir.
	What's going on?
	Hey, Sean, thanks for having me on.
	I just want to voice my support for Kevin McCarthy for speaker because I think he's a great candidate.
	He laid out the commitment to America with several conservative policy initiatives, revitalizing our economy, securing our border and stopping the flood of immigrants, illegal immigrants coming into the country, standing up for China.
	And I just don't quite understand the objections raised by some Freedom Caucus Republicans like Andy Biggs or Matt Gates.
	And I just think that Republicans should align themselves behind him and understand that the Republican Party is bigger than Ultra MAGA or the 2020 election and really go back to our roots of, because you understand that the Republican Party is the party of abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, of civil rights in the 1960s of the Cold War.
	And these are all things that Kevin McCarthy wants to return the Republican Party to, at least to the House, and scop the radical Democratic agenda.
	So that's my main point.
	You know, look, Kevin did raise nearly $500 million.
	There is some animosity among some Freedom Caucus members in terms of money spent and how it was spent during the campaign.
	You know, I actually sent out a note to a few select people, and it has to do with whether or not they're going to get this resolved before January 3rd or whether it's going to be an Adam Schiff show on the House floor, which is going to be a disaster for everybody.
	And they need to get their act together.
	I'm not going to get involved in the process.
	I'm not a member of the House.
	This is their job to figure this out.
	McCarthy did get 85% of the vote.
	I like Andy Biggs.
	I get along fine with all the Freedom Caucus members.
	I'm more philosophically aligned with them.
	What nobody seems to have figured out yet is that any three, any four or five congressmen, caucus members joining together are going to have an awful lot of power at any given moment.
	But what I tried to warn them is that if in fact they don't get their act together, and we go back to, this hasn't happened since 1923, and they're going to have vote after vote after vote, the media mob is going to have a field day with this.
	Democrats are going to have a field day of this.
	And what I suggested to some key people, not that anybody ever listens to me, is that they clear their schedules, they leave their phones and their egos at home, that they stop leaking to the media, and that they hammer out a deal that is acceptable to everybody.
	And that would have to do with small things like committee assignments and office locations, although committee assignments is not a small deal, and come up with the agenda.
	It should be the commitments to America that they ran on that resonates with the American people, and that's going to make our lives better.
	They're supposed to serve us.
	And they've got to figure out how they're going to use their newfound power of subpoena and the power of the purse.
	And what they better figure out sooner than later is at the end of the day, they're going to succeed together or they're going to fail together.
	There's not going to be any in-between here.
	And if they allow this to keep going on and they turn this into a shift show on January 3rd, then they're going to deserve everything that they get.
	And we're going to be screwed because of their incompetence.
	So that's my message to everybody.
	Whether or not they listen to me, I don't know.
	I gave it my best shot because I see what's unfolding and I see it, you know, two trains on one track and they're headed towards each other and a collision is not going to be good for either side.
	That's what I see.
	Right, Sean.
	And I just think that, you know, Kevin McCarthy in his commitment to America, he said we need to deliver an economy that's strong, a nation that's safe, a future that's built on freedom, and a government that's accountable.
	These are all conservative principles.
	So I think the right thing for Republicans to do is get their full support behind the Carthage.
	And because the last thing you need is a Democratic speaker.
	I mean, the Carthage is a good person.
	Listen, he's not Mitch McConnell.
	And if they're not happy with him, after a period of time, they can get rid of him.
	So I have every belief with the small margins that they have that they're all going to have to work together here.
	And they've got to put the American people first, not themselves first.
	That's my advice to them.
	Anyway, appreciate it.
	Quick break.
	When we come back, we hit the phones.
	800-941.
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	You are basically exposing collusion between a political party and one file that was released.
	It was even called the Biden team contacting Twitter.
	I mean, that is election interference, isn't it?
	Yeah, I mean, clearly, if Twitter is doing one team's bidding before an election, shutting down dissenting voices on a pivotal election, that is the very definition of election interference.
	And what the hell else would you, of course, like, yes.
	You know, frankly, Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee.
	It was absurd.
	All right, back to our busy phones: 800-941.
	Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Mark, Illinois, next Sean Hannity Show.
	What's going on?
	Thanks for taking my call, Sean.
	I wanted to talk about the information that Elon Musk has released regarding Twitter in the last two election cycles.
	It's obvious that we won't get any relief from the DOJ or any investigations, any support from the executive branch.
	But the state's attorneys in various states have the right to investigate, to start inquiries.
	They have the ability to start civil and criminal investigations.
	If they believe that the citizens of their state have been injured by these practices, they have the right to.
	It sounds like you have a background in law, do you?
	I do not, sir.
	Okay, sounds like you do, but that's okay.
	Keep going.
	So I would just, you know, if any state's attorneys, if smart people in your audience are listening, if they could weigh in on this, many a basketball coach will tell you that a good offense is the best medicine for winning a game, not to play defense.
	I think if the state's attorneys would get together, start to investigate this, it's obvious what we're doing.
	Well, we see this happening with Eric Schmidt in Missouri and Louisiana's attorney general.
	They've teamed up together and, you know, they got the head of the integrity, whatever system.
	I'm not sure the exact title at Twitter, and they got a lot of information out of the guy.
	And, you know, one thing that we did find out, his name actually is Yoel Roth.
	He's Twitter's former head of integrity.
	And he did admit that these weekly calls that were put together by this friend of Baker and friend of Strzok and Page and a guy that had a, I guess his claim to fame was his postgraduate thesis claiming Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help former President Trump.
	He's the guy that organized all these weekly meetings with the big tech corporations and was warning them of a hack and leak operation and they needed to be on watch that that doesn't happen and they don't want to be disseminating false information.
	And remember, it was Twitter's Yoel Roth that said, yeah, he mentioned that this information may have to do with Hunter.
	I think they knew damn well that this was coming out because they knew Rudy Giuliani had a copy and they knew the New York Post was working on a story.
	So they were, you know, not debunking it.
	They were pre-bunking it and they got what they wanted.
	They were able to censor all of the media and big tech corporations from disseminating the story, which had an impact on the election, which is why Elon Musk is 100% right by shutting down dissenting voices.
	That was the very definition of election interference.
	And I'm pretty sure that's why Elon Musk is exposing all of this.
	It's a pretty big reveal.
	I mean, you can't even calibrate the impact on an election.
	But I would argue that it probably would have been the tipping point for a lot of people.
	But you're right.
	State's attorneys generals can do their job.
	I think they can follow in the footsteps of Louisiana, Eric Schmidt, Missouri, and follow the path that you laid out very articulately.
	Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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