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It is election day in the great country of the United States of America, but I'm just watching a report on Fox News.
By the way, Pennsylvania voters cast ballots and high stake rates.
Literally, they said in Arizona that we can we can believe that we'll have 99% of the vote counted by Friday.
Today is Tuesday.
All of these other states have the ability to go out there and actually count the votes, and we know the results tonight.
Why can't these other states?
Now it gets even more bizarre out there.
Is Carrie Lake coming on?
I just texted her.
We are working on it, boss.
Okay.
So now this just broke.
This is the Washington Post, hardly the vast right-wing conspira conspiracy network.
Quote problems with voting machines in Arizona's Maricopa County trigger unfounded fraud claims.
What do you mean unfounded?
You know, how how long do how do we know anything right now to make any dis definitive conclusion?
You don't know.
Anyway, so if I don't know what verb you're talking about.
Oh, okay.
Well, Carrie Lake is on the line.
Okay, so she's out there saying today Carrie Lake had to go to a different polling place than normal because, you know, and she says, by the way, there's got to be a coming of Jesus for elections here in Arizona.
And she said that uh, you know, we're going to encourage the people to stay in line.
We're going to vote.
We're going to stay in line.
The people of Arizona would walk over hot coals and broken glass to vote today.
And I know they can't stand in line for a couple of hours if they have to, but I know they'll stand in line for eight hours if they have to.
And they will vote.
And my message to the people of Arizona is do not get out of line until you have cast your vote.
Don't get out of line until you cast your vote.
These things are looking very good for us.
Now they may be trying to slow a red tsunami, but it's coming, and we're going to take back Arizona.
And I know the people are out there voting.
Uh, but anyway, she apparently had trouble out in Arizona.
This is where the Washington Post article comes in.
Now their headline is is misleading.
Problems with voting machines in Arizona's Maricopa County trigger unfounded fraud claims.
Okay, that's not the point.
This is the United States of America.
And if we're having problems on voting day and you say it's unfounded claims, you have made a definitive statement that you don't know what's going on out there.
That's the point.
Nobody knows.
I certainly don't know.
All we know is that they are admitting.
I'll read verbatim from the Washington Post.
Problems with machines at some voting locations in Maricopa County, uh home to more than half of Arizona's voters have become grist for prominent right-wing voices who deny the legitimacy of the 2020 election to claim without evidence that Tuesday's vote was also fraudulent.
Why is it unreasonable to expect that when you go to vote that you're not going to have problems such as this?
How is it all these other states are able to handle elections and give us results the day of?
Why are we being told that 99% of the vote will be counted by Friday and today is Tuesday?
Anyway, they're pointing out, then I'll go back to the Washington Post.
Tabulators at about 20% of the 223 voting locations in the county were experiencing problems.
County officials told the Washington Post, election officials were fixing the problems, advise voters to either wait for tabulators to come back online or go to another voting location or to drop ballots in secure slots and ballots dropped in the slots are counted either at the end of the day or in the coming days at the county's tabulation center in downtown Phoenix.
County officials stressed that no one was being prevented from voting, no one's ballot has been mishandled, and they have said for weeks the ballot counting could take as many as 12 days.
Why does it take 12 days out there?
Anyway, Maricopa County Elections Department is their their blue check mark.
Uh advice for voters.
If a tabulator is not working at your site, you could still vote.
You could you have the option to cast your ballot and place it into a Secure ballot box.
The poll workers on site at voting locations are best equipped to help you ensure that your ballot is cast.
Anyway, it says, you know, here we go.
Why are we having problems?
Why is this so complicated?
Why is it not complicated in most other states?
Why?
It's there's no reason for this with the United States of America.
And I'll tell you where we need to be headed now.
And also out in Arizona, this this we brought this issue up in recent days.
You have uh Carrie Lake is going up against the Arizona Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs, also the Democratic nominee for governor, and she has been asked, and others have recommended previous AGs out in Arizona that she recuse herself because as the Secretary of State currently running for governor currently, uh there's an obvious conflict of interest, and she's been repeatedly asked to recuse herself, and she's not.
Uh and and how does it this is not complicated.
And I'll tell you where we need to end up with all of this.
It's simple.
Make election day a national holiday.
Make it a national holiday.
People that are older, infirmed, uh, whatever, they can apply they can offer reasons to get an absentee ballot.
If you're going to be traveling, if you're going to be out of your state, out of town, you can't make it, you should be able to have an absentee ballot.
You want to participate in democracy.
Everybody else, every able-bodied man, woman, and child should get a paper ballot on election day, fill it out.
Every state has the same system.
It should have to be adopted constitutionally by the states.
And then at the end of the voting period, uh you have partisan observers watching the voting, partisan observers watching the vote count, and then you add up the ballots that night and you give a result.
It's that simple.
You need voter ID, you need signature verification, you need updated voter roles, you need chain of custody controls, and partisan observers watching the count and partisan observers watching the vote in every precinct, and then you will end your problem.
And the good news is is everybody will have confidence in the results.
And if you don't like it that you lost, too bad.
If you don't like it, if you if you won and you're happy, you know that you won honestly.
I mean, they're they're raising these questions.
Now, let me give you another example.
And this is in the the great state of Pennsylvania.
Now, the Washington Post also reports that election officials in key states are warning that results may not be known for days.
Officials in a handful of closely contested states are warning that the winners of these tight races may not be known on election night.
Well, now being told 99% of the vote in Arizona is not going to be until Friday.
In Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin, election officials there are now saying that in recent days they have preemptively called for patience, acknowledging that some of the factors that bogged down the process in 2020 remain unresolved two years later.
In some cases, partisan disagreement blocked quote fixes.
So they're blaming it on the legislatures.
We'll see what happens there.
All right, we got more information.
This from uh some people on the ground, I guess, in Maricopa County.
Uh the center square is reporting within an hour of the polls opening, poll watches were reporting issues with voting tabulators not working properly in Maricopa County, election officials are able to read ballots, albeit at slower paces.
We've got about 20% of the locations where there is an issue with the tabulator where some people are having uh who have voted with them and try to run through the tabulator and they're not going through.
Now that has caused apparently Kerry Lake move from her voting site where she's supposed to go to another voting site.
Why should any voter have to go through that hassle?
You would think that we, you know, we're pretty smart country.
Uh we send people to the moon.
We did that in the 60s.
To be clear, she said I went to a more liberal area.
Where there was no issue.
And it seems to be that in other counties where there might be a larger Republican constituency, then the issue is coming up more regularly.
So every other state, so we're reading from the Washington Post, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin.
We we might not know the results in those states.
Now, my question is if every other state can tabulate it, why can't they?
Why don't we, You know, why why do we have to wait till Friday or Thursday or next week or the week after?
This is not, this does not need to be complicated.
This is pretty simple stuff.
It's not like sending people to the moon.
It's not as complicated as that.
And doing it successfully, and not only landing on the moon, but then coming home and landing safely.
So we have uh in Pennsylvania now an issue that has evolved.
Uh John Fetterman before the election even started didn't like the fact that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled last week.
We told you about this ruling, that election officials in Pennsylvania can't count undated ballots because that would be in violation of the state's election regulations, which makes those ballots illegal.
So the campaign, late last night, an 11th hour lawsuit to try and uh overturn the high court.
John Fetterman's campaign filed the lawsuit, and in comes Mark Elias.
Might remember that name.
Uh, anyway, against Pennsylvania election officials, demanding that undated, misdated absentee ballots be counted in the midterms.
Now, whether you agree or disagree with the rules is irrelevant to me.
The rules are what the rules are.
And the rules, the law is what the law is.
And if we're going to have free and fair elections, and we're going to have integrity, you got to follow the law.
You got to follow your constitution, your state constitution.
Anyway, the decision to sue the Pennsylvania Board of Elections comes nearly a week after the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ordered the board to refrain from counting any absentee and mail and ballots received for today's general election that are undated or incorrectly dated envelopes.
The court also ordered that all misdated, undated ballots be taken out of the mix, preserved by the County Board of Elections, because it was an uh evenly divided on the issue of whether failing to count those ballots was a constitutional violation.
Pennsylvania requires all voters who submit ballots to mail uh by mail to fill out date and sign a declaration on the envelope in which the ballot is placed.
Oh, so let's sue to, you know, last minute, you know, when nobody's paying attention on the eve of the election.
Now, in Pennsylvania, there was a report earlier in the week that 3,400 undated ballots had already been disqualified in Pennsylvania.
That was on fake news CNN.
Election official, heavy heavily Democratic Philadelphia said Monday, 3,400 mail-in ballots are at risk of being rejected because of incorrect information, missing dates, or missing secrecy envelopes.
Now, if they really didn't like this provision of the law, they had time, ample time uh to go to the state legislature, bring this up.
They had ample time to go to the courts, but no, they wait till the last minute.
So despite the Supreme Court ruling to the contrary, Pennsylvania Democrats are now allowing voters to revise their undated ballots.
Because in spite of that ruling last week, court in Pennsylvania ruling against the GOP now on a late Monday when it decided election officials can continue to notify voters of what they call a fix if if if you need to with your ballot.
Again, what what are we doing here?
Why is it impossible, seemingly, for people to do the simplest thing?
And I'll tell you the only solution that I can think of at this point is make election day a national holiday, have provisions that people that are sick, elderly, can't leave their homes, that want to vote and participate.
We make concessions to them that they'd be able to apply for an absentee ballot.
People that are going to be out of town, they can apply for an absentee ballot.
Uh, and then everybody else goes in, votes on election day, paper ballots, and you have a winner at the end of the night.
Is that really that much to ask from the United States of America?
I don't think it's that much to make election day great again.
Yeah, make election that we can do it.
We can do it.
We can make election day great again.
All right, as we roll along, it's election day in America, toll free.
It's 800, 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, you know, look at this last minute Mark Elias, Democratic lawyer, um, you know, by the way, himself involved in the Russia collusion hoax, uh, Breitbar Peace out today, and who pushed for vote by mail in the 2020 election, gloating yesterday that Republicans were being destroyed in court cases over the 2020 election process.
Elias primarily known for challenging election results in close races, the Democrats win in cases where Republicans appear to win on election day.
Uh He's been pushing the vote by mail in 2020 and active in several lawsuits to liberalize voting rules today, according to Breitbart again.
Now, I have the Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision.
It's right in front of me.
By the way, it's very short, not long.
And it said that upon review of the briefs, et cetera, the petitioner's request for injunctive and declaratory relief is granted in part and denied in part.
The Pennsylvania County Board of Elections are hereby ordered to refrain from counting any absentee, mail in ballots received for the November 8th, 2022 election, uh general election that are contained in undated or incorrupt incorrectly dated outer envelopes.
The court is uh evenly divided on the issue of whether failing to count such ballots violates 52 USC uh 10101A to B. And we hereby direct that the Pennsylvania County Board of Elections segregate and preserve any ballots contained in undated or incorrectly dated envelopes.
You know what this all comes down to is Democrats very clearly, the laws unambiguous.
Just like the state constitution of Pennsylvania is unambiguous here.
They want to change it to benefit them.
They don't want people to have to meet the requirements and standards that their own legislature set out and their constitution set out.
Keeping Uncle Sam accountable to you every day.
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It's 800, 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Ask yourself why it is the Democratic Party doesn't want voter ID.
You need an ID for everything else in life.
If you buy a beer, you need an ID.
Buy a bottle of wine, you need an ID.
Buy alcohol, you need an ID.
I would imagine, Linda, probably all these weed shops that people support.
You probably need an ID if you're gonna buy, you know, weed, whatever store legal in whatever legalized state it's in, right?
I mean, I would assume so.
The good thing is you'll be so high you wouldn't know the difference anyway.
So that you know, say Scooby Doo, they'd say great, here you go, here's your weed.
Want to see your congressman or woman, you need a voter ID.
Why do Democrats not want voter ID?
Because the only reason I can think of is for nefarious purposes.
Why is it that the state Supreme Court makes a ruling in Pennsylvania about the need to follow the law?
All they ask for are those ballots, mail in ballots that are not dated, that are not signed, be put aside, and the decision would be forthcoming later.
Um, and last minute in comes, you know, the the Democrats and Fetterman, the trust fund brat in a hoodie.
And I I want to challenge that law.
Why didn't you challenge it in the weeks leading up to it?
Why didn't you challenge it after the Supreme Court decision?
Had plenty of time to challenge it.
But of course, now we're going to create chaos.
Then you got this whole issue going on out in the state of Arizona, and I I can't even believe that even the Washington Post is looking at this.
You can tell they want to tie it to election denial.
It's not about election denial.
It's about, okay, what can we get to the bottom of why this is happening to 20% of the uh uh voting locations out in Maricopa County, by far the largest county as everybody recalls in the 2020 election?
Is it really wrong that, you know, if we have 40 plus uh of our states that are able to run elections smoothly with results given the night of the election?
Why do we have to be told from Pennsylvania, Arizona, other places?
Well, we'll probably have 99% of the vote on Friday.
Today is Tuesday.
If 40 states can do it, 40 plus states can do it day of, why can't they?
Why are they why is that?
Well, why don't you want simple voter integrity measures?
Why are you against voter ID?
Why are you against signature verification?
That in other words, you have a database, people's signature, And you affirm that you are who you say that you are.
Here is my license.
Just like you need a license to buy a jewel pot or a pack of cigarettes for crying out loud.
I know I would urge everybody not to smoke.
Want to buy a cigar, okay?
You need an ID.
You can't be under the age of I think 21.
You need it for every you want to see a congressman, want to see a senator, you need ID.
It's that simple.
You know, why would you be against that?
Why would you be against updating the voter rolls every election year?
Somebody give me a reasonable, reasonable, rational explanation for this.
Why is it that Democrats so quickly charge that Republicans somehow nefariously want to disenfranchise votes?
I don't want to disenfranchise votes.
I want voter integrity.
I want to have confidence in the results, and I'd like to know on election night, I'm impatient by nature.
But I don't think it's such a heavy lift because we have 40 plus states that already do it the right way.
Then they don't have these questions.
Uh you know, how how did we get to election day and 20% of the tabulators?
I don't even know what a tabulator is, to be very honest with you, aren't loading.
Um, why is it that you have these last minute lawsuits to go against the Supreme Court decision that it happened, you know, days and days earlier?
Why wouldn't you challenge it immediately if you really felt that this was unfair?
You know, why is it it's okay in 2020 not to have um partisan observers as the law requires in many states, observe the vote counting up close start to finish.
In 2020, because of quote COVID, they were what, a thousand feet away, a hundred feet away, twenty feet away, six feet away.
You can't see anything from six feet away.
You can't see a ballot from six feet away.
It's it's almost impossible.
You know, why didn't you make accommodations so that the law would be followed uh instead of just not doing it, not following it?
If the state constitution in Pennsylvania allows for very limited instances in which people can vote by mail, how is it that rather than go through the more arduous process of a constitutional amendment, which would be the legal constitutional process to to get there,
well, why do you think it's okay for the state legislature to just decide that uh they know better than the state constitution and circumvent the the process which would require a constitutional amendment?
If you don't like it, fix it, follow the law, follow the constitution.
Not that complicated.
You know, it's it's it what it does is unfortunately it takes away people's confidence.
And all of it is so easily it's easily resolved.
And if you're a state that is having problems, the best thing you can do is look at the states that do it easily, that have results quickly and duplicate their models so that you know people will have confidence in the results and they'll believe in the integrity of the election.
And by the way, plenty of uh election deniers on the Democratic side, starting with Stacey Abrams on down.
It's just a matter I don't want an advantage in terms of voting.
I want the American people to get the the free fair election result, whatever it may be.
If my candidate wins, great.
My candidate loses, that's fine.
We'll we'll live to fight another day.
But shouldn't we know the night of or at the latest in the morning?
Now, if an election, if we had day of voting, paper ballots, with exceptions for those that are elderly, hospitalized, whatever.
Um, people can vote absentee.
People are going to be out of town, they can vote absentee.
You have to make those considerations, but people that want to participate in elections.
Make it a national holiday, make them paper ballots, you have partisan observers at every single solitary location, so nothing nefarious happens.
You have partisan observers watch the count uh so nothing nefarious happens.
Uh so nobody has any doubt in their mind that nobody could even raise a question about integrity because there wouldn't be any questions about integrity.
And then we count the votes once the polls close, and you if it's a close race, you count them again, and if it's really close, count them even a third time or a fourth time.
Anyway, 800, 941 Sean is our number if you want to be a part of the program.
I know a Lot of you are wondering what are we going to expect today.
Um I can't give you that answer.
I can tell you that whatever state you're in, and I'm gonna name every state that matters.
You know, John Kennedy needs to be re elected, for example, in Louisiana, he's gonna win, but I'm just saying you need to vote for him.
The same goes for Rand Paul in Kentucky.
And the same goes for you know, uh Chuck Grassley in Iowa and Marco Rubio in Florida.
Uh don't take it for granted.
Now when you look at the states that are going to influence the the balance of power in the US Senate, they're all razor thin margins.
If you're in Georgia, get out and vote for Herschel Walker.
If you're in North Carolina, we need you to vote for Ted Budd.
If you want if you want to stop the Biden agenda.
Now, let me just backtrack here.
If you're happy with a 41 year high of inflation, then vote for the Democrat.
If you if you're fine with record high gas prices and a shortage of diesel fuel, and you're and you're fine to pay at least thirty percent more, maybe higher, for your heating bills this year, on top of the Biden inflation cost estimated now to seventy two hundred dollars per household, then vote for the Democrats.
If you're fine with four and a half million illegal immigrants uh entering this country facilitated by Joe Biden and the radical Democrats, then vote for the Democrats.
If you're okay with defund, dismantle and no bail laws, vote for the Democrats.
If you're okay with you know, gender identity education, CRT education, and and putting less emphasis on reading, writing, math, science, history, and computers, then vote for the Democrats.
But the states, if if you look at Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire with General Don Bolduck, I hear that turnout in New Hampshire is through the roof.
He he absolutely can win.
Uh and if you look at you know these these other races that we've been following, Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania, it's a it's a one point race.
Your vote's gonna matter in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Blake Masters, it's gonna matter in Arizona.
And it's gonna matter also in Nevada with Adam Laxalt.
And then you can look at Tiffany Smiley, but then you can't forget J.D. Vance.
We need him to win in Ohio.
I think he will, but we need him to win.
We need Ron Johnson to win also.
These are important races.
I'd love to see Patty Murray lose tonight.
That would be great in the state of Washington.
Can't guarantee it, but boy, what a race Tiffany Smiley is has run.
Lee Zeldon apparently is massive turnout in Long Island today, massive turnout in upstate New York today.
Uh very low turnout, I'm told in the Bronx today, which is interesting.
Manhattan might be a little bit outperforming uh for de you know, woke Democrats are out there to protect Hokel, uh, but that could be made up with the rest of the state.
We'll see, you know, at the end of the night, it's absolutely a long shot.
But if you look at these Senate races, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, and Washington State combined, less than a hundred thousand votes will determine the balance of power in the United States Senate.
That's why your vote matters.
Anyway, joining us now.
No, we have John McLaughlin is with us, uh, as well as Matt Tower, our pollsters.
Guys, what do you see and what are you hearing?
Uh Matt, what are you hearing?
I know you're cute into Georgia.
I hear uh some good things going on down there.
Well, hi uh Sean.
Uh it's uh the turnout in Atlanta in particular is very interesting because it looks like in the traditional Democratic precinct, there's been l very little activity.
Um the turnout has been very light through the morning to midday.
Um it's possible that it could kick up in the late afternoon.
But early voting, uh as I've said before on the show simply was not at the level that normally Democrats need to get in order to have a resounding winner, even to get something into a runoff.
So right now uh with with the turnout we have right now, I'm thinking Herschel Walker may well be at the edge of being able to pull this off without a runoff.
That's pretty fascinating.
How do you see the how from your vantage point, John McLaughlin, anecdotally, what are you hearing?
I'm here, by the way.
I'm hearing the same thing from uh the Republican Senate committee sources out of uh in Georgia that it's possible that they think uh they think Herschel can win without a runoff if he keeps if the if the votes keeps coming, Republicans are coming out, Democrats are staying home.
And uh I think Governor Kemp's people I've got a second hand that Governor Kemp's people think the same thing.
So uh that's very good.
But we're also seeing around the country where Democrats are certainly not hitting their marks that they had in terms of early voting and absentees in uh uh many states around the country, uh where there's these contested races, uh Florida, they're big trouble in Florida.
But uh the same thing in in like the it appears that the Democrat turnout is down around the country and the Republicans are coming out.
So uh and independents who will vote Republican are coming out.
Um so I'm seeing, by the way, is there's very good turnouts in Long Island uh uh for for Lee Zeldon today.
Uh it's also bodes well for the congressional races upstate to the Republicans, because we have probably the most contested races of any state since we won that redistricting case in New York.
So uh so the votes really, you know, your vote really matters if you cut if you're in New York and you want to vote for Lee Zeldon for governor, if you want to vote for Republicans for Congress, your vote really matters and and uh it's gonna make a difference today.
What's the result gonna be?
I'll ask you both, run through these races.
Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, uh Nevada and and Arizona and Washington State.
Matt, you go first, go quick.
Uh Georgia War Walker wins without a runoff in all probability.
North Carolina goes Republican.
Um Arizona is gonna be iffy, Pennsylvania.
I think Oz wins.
Uh Nevada's going to go Republican, Washington State, likely stays Democrat, New Hampshire could be the upset of the day uh with uh the turnout that I'm hearing about.
And if I miss anything, Sean, you can throw it back at me.
No, that's good.
Uh John McLaughlin.
By the way, I'm I'm seeing the same things.
I I would be uh I'm pretty I I agree with most of what Matt just said here, but at the same time, you might get an outlier like Lyora Levy winning in Connecticut, Bob Safanowski winning for governor in Connecticut today.
Uh they're running strong, good turnout.
And at the same thing, the the uh vote by mail in uh Oregon and Washington for the Republicans, and Washington is important for the Senate race, uh seems to be that uh uh, you know, they're it's good for the Republican, the actual makeup of the numbers that are coming in.
But those those are vote by mail states that it's important if they're gonna be able to win that, and say maybe in Colorado.
So uh so it's it's we're cautiously optimistic that if these trends hold, we'll have a good night tonight.
Well, and to John's point, we our poll, our last poll, Washington State had the race virtually even.
So if he's correct about that, then we could have some real upsets tonight.
That would be the best case scenario ever.
Anecdotally, I've I've checked in with a lot of people in New Hampshire.
Turnout is very, very high, and most people believe that Bullduck is uh is gonna cross the finish line that I have spoken to, but that's anecdotally.
Now to everybody, what matters they had their heating oil delivered this week.
Yeah, exactly.
That's probably and it's only gonna get higher.
And and their natural gas prices, a minimum of a 30% increase and a chance that the entire uh grid goes down in all of New England.
Meaning nobody will be able to heat their homes this winter.
Uh this is insanity.
I got a roll.
We'll have you guys back on later in the program when we come back.
Carrie Lake's gonna tell us what the hell's going on in Maricopa County.