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Tulsi Gabbard - October 12th, Hour 3
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We got some tape of John Fetterman in this disaster of an interview on MSDNC.
We'll get to that.
Also, Project Veritas breaking some information about Katie Hobbs, who's the gubernatorial candidate out in the state of Arizona.
Interesting comments about their thoughts on people that believe in the Second Amendment rights.
It's amazing what people that are running for office really think when they don't think anybody's listening, especially about the constituents that they want to go out and vote for them.
Tulsi Gabbard has now said goodbye to the Democratic Party.
Here's part of her statement.
I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism,
who actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms that are enshrined in our Constitution, who are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, who demonize the police but protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, who believe in open borders, who weaponize the national security state to go after their political opponents, and above all, who are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.
Now, I believe in a government that's of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Unfortunately, today's Democratic Party does not.
Instead, it stands for a government that is of, by, and for the powerful elite.
Now, I'm calling on my fellow common sense, independent-minded Democrats to join me in leaving the Democratic Party.
If you can no longer stomach the direction that the so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, then I invite you to join me.
Tulsi Gabbard joins us now.
Your statement did not come as a surprise to me after the many interviews we've had together.
I have found you to be a refreshing voice that has not been in touch with or an agreement with the Democratic Party for a long time, and I think that's very evident.
What tipped the balance?
What tipped you over here?
Yeah, hey, Sean, it's good to talk to you.
It really came down to recognizing increasingly over time how adamantly opposed today's Democratic Party is to freedom.
You know, this party is being led and controlled by these fanatical ideologues who take every opportunity to actively undermine our freedom of speech, to actively undermine our freedom of religion.
They cannot handle anyone speaking out in opposition to their position, challenging them in any way, or even asking questions because it exposes the insecurity and weakness in their argument.
They refuse to have a conversation to get to a point where we can say, as you and I have done, Sean, where, hey, okay, we have a conversation.
We can agree to disagree on that.
Maybe we'll agree on something else.
Their desire to control independent thought, free speech, free exercise of religion fundamentally goes against the foundation of this country and who we are as Americans.
They have gone from this position and taken it a step farther where it's not enough just to say, okay, well, we disagree.
If you disagree, they will do everything they can to destroy you, to cancel you, to smear you, to work with big tech to silence any voices that are not in compliance.
There are a whole host of issues.
You heard some of them in that statement that I made.
But ultimately, foundationally, I cannot be associated with a party that is actively opposed to and undermining our God-given freedoms enshrined in our Constitution and, frankly, our democracy.
It was a pretty bold decision on your part.
Does that mean you're just going to remain independent and unaffiliated?
Or do you consider yourself a conservative?
Because I have my own definition of conservatism and why I am a conservative, and we'll discuss that.
But where are you leaning in terms of affiliation, or do you just remain independent?
Independent at this point.
I've never been good with labels.
Even as a Democrat for the last 20 years, I've always been an independent Democrat.
And to the frustration of the Democratic Party, have never fit cleanly within their own definition as much as it has changed over time.
I'm a patriot.
I love our country.
And I'm looking forward to continuing doing what I've been doing and speaking freely and challenging their efforts to force us into compliance and self-censorship and speaking to Americans everywhere I can, no matter what they may categorize or call themselves.
You know, it's interesting.
Most people think I'm a Republican.
I'm not.
I'm a registered conservative, which you can do in New York, which I shouldn't be living in this Adam Schiff Hall, but I am.
And I need to get out of here because everything is going wrong that can possibly go wrong.
But to me, if you were asked me to describe my philosophy, my governing philosophy, it is one of I would describe myself as a Reagan conservative, as an America first conservative, as a make America great again conservative.
And by that, I believe in liberty and freedom.
I believe in our Constitution and capitalism, limited government, lower taxes, less bureaucracy.
I believe that government has a responsibility to keep its citizens safe and secure.
That demands law and order be enforced.
That's not happening with defund, dismantle, and no bail laws.
I think we could do a lot better with the money we spend on every child on education.
I believe in choice in education.
I believe that America should have laws as it relates to immigration and they should be enforced.
They're not being enforced.
And I believe that America should be not only energy independent, which Donald Trump achieved for the first time in 75 years, but energy dominant.
I believe that we should put constitutionalists on the bench and not have people legislate from the bench.
I believe in free and fair trade.
I believe in the First and Second Amendment and every amendment.
And I believe that America should adopt and maintain at all times peace through strength.
Now, is there anything that I said there that you disagree with?
No, Sean, there's not.
And you know what's interesting is, you know, as you talk about this is how you define what it means to be a conservative.
Just recently I went back and looked at what was the definition of classical liberalism.
And classical liberalism really is defined almost in the same way that you're defining conservatism today.
You know, classical liberals believed in protecting our civil liberties and freedom, believed in ensuring the rule of law, limited government, economic freedom, freedom of speech, autonomy, exercising our autonomy as individuals in this country.
And It is interesting to see how these definitions have changed and more.
By the way, what you're saying, so everybody knows, is 100% accurate.
By the way, John F. Kennedy, you know, pretty much laid the pathway for Reagan's tax cuts.
You know, he lowered taxes as president and believed in a strong national defense.
Let me ask you this.
I know you've taken a lot of heat for some of your positions as it relates to Ukraine.
As we watch what's happening unfold, from my perspective, I see a sovereign country that's not a member of NATO.
And I see this as an existential threat to NATO because of Putin's just mere evil and brutality, which has been on display, especially last week, and his threat of nuclear weapons.
I can't believe we have a president that talked about the worst nuclear crisis since the Cuba Missile Crisis and mentioned nuclear Armageddon and then walked away from the podium.
And instead of going to the Situation Room, he went home to Delaware.
Not exactly confidence building on our part, but you've taken some criticism about it.
I don't want Americans engaged in foreign conflicts or wars.
However, does the world have any responsibility when a sovereign country is invaded the way Putin invaded Ukraine?
Yes.
And this is where we need President Biden and leaders in NATO, but President Biden here representing the United States to do what is necessary to try to bring about an end to this conflict.
I went back the other day and looked at President JFK's speech about peace that he delivered at the American University.
And the words that he said there, it was almost as though he was speaking about a current situation that we are facing right now with this nuclear brinksmanship that's occurring.
What President Biden needs to do is exercise that kind of leadership that we saw in President Reagan and President Kennedy in bringing about an end to this, in forcing these kinds of negotiations that will end this war.
Because if it doesn't, if we continue down this path collectively in this world, it has the potential to lead to a nuclear catastrophe, given all of the signs and the direction things are headed continue to escalate consistently.
And that's what I'm advocating for.
It's what I've advocated for from the beginning is obviously Russia and Putin's invasion of Ukraine was absolutely wrong and should never have happened.
The leadership that the president of the United States has the responsibility and opportunity to exercise is to bring the parties together and leverage the might and power of the United States to bring about a negotiated end so that we end the suffering of the people in Ukraine.
Do you agree with me that this president's not cognitively capable of doing that?
I mean, I don't think Joe is up to the job.
I would argue I'm not sure he knows that today is Wednesday.
I am concerned.
You know, there are some times that he says things that he says what he means.
Right.
It seems like he says what he means, but very often you have his handlers coming in and trying to clean up and retract and say what they think he means.
So really, like the question I have in my mind is who is really running the White House?
Who's really pulling the strings of power?
See, it gets complicated when we talk about foreign policy and America's role in the world, because I just think as a country that has a soul and a conscience, you can't watch innocent civilians getting bombed out and turn a blind eye.
On the other hand, Zelensky and Ukraine, they're more of Europe's problem.
And I find that Europe and the United States tend to do the same thing over and over again, and that is they don't fight wars to win wars.
What Donald Trump taught us with the caliphate that grew under Biden Obama is that you can bomb them into smithereens and defeat them.
And he did it with very little fanfare, but he took them all out and he beat the caliphate, just like he took Soleimani off a tarmac, just like he took out Baghdadian associates and the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen.
America doesn't fight wars to win them anymore, and I am not willing to sacrifice America's national treasure, our children, to go door to door ever again, especially with the advancement of technology in terms of military weaponry.
We have the ability to fight wars, pushing buttons in any city or any town in America.
And that's how they should be fought, but they should be fought in a way that you win them.
And it comes down to this, Sean, is what you mentioned earlier.
You know, when we talk about America first, that's a concept that includes first and foremost the American people first.
When we're making foreign policy decisions, that is the foremost question that we've got to ask.
If we go and get involved in a war, we're thinking about starting a war, whatever the foreign policy decision may be, whether it's related with military action or economic action, trade agreements and whatnot, all of these policies should be centered around what is in the best interest of the American people.
Will this help make the American people more safe, more prosperous, more free?
And when we make our decisions within that prism and that context, then we know we're moving in the right direction.
Quick break more with Tulsi Gabbard on the other side.
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All right, we continue with Tulsi Gabbard, who left the Democratic Party this week.
We're almost out of time.
We have less than a minute.
What are your goals?
What's your future like?
Do you have presidential ambitions?
What are you going to be doing in the near term?
What are your long-term goals, if you have any?
Politics has never been a career for me.
It's always been an answer to a question of how can I best be of service to God and to our country.
And quite frankly, at this moment, my biggest concern is not what's happening in 2024.
It is about how we can prevent a nuclear war and potential destruction of humanity in the world as we know it.
Do you agree with me that Putin is capable of using a tactical nuke?
I think he is.
Yes.
Yes.
Scary.
The people who say that it can't happen are they've got their head in the sand or they're trying to hide.
We've got to fight for freedom.
We've got to fight for our future.
And that's really what I'm focusing my energies on.
All right.
Are you going to leave Hawaii?
Are you going to try and run your career out of Hawaii?
That's a difficult, that's a difficult part of the country to be running any big political operation.
Well, it is.
It's isolated.
It's also home.
So I'm trying to figure out logistics, and I'll probably end up splitting my time between Hawaii and somewhere else here on the mainland.
All right.
We appreciate you being with us.
Pretty gutsy decision.
And I'm sure you probably, I know you lost friends over it because I read that you did, but you're going to gain new friends as a result.
That I can be certain of.
And you know what?
They weren't really your friends anyway if they don't respect your personal point of view.
That's my take.
Exactly.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Tulsi Gabbert, thank you.
All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
This was a really, really interesting moment at MSDNC where you have an MSDNC reporter gets an interview with John Fetterman, the only place that he'll do interviews.
And anyway, the interviewer literally says, I don't think he understood a single thing we were talking about prior to the interview.
I mean, that's pretty telling that that's how bad this thing has gotten with John Fetterman and his stroke, and I wish him the best of health.
To me, the Fetterman Oz race is about this is the most radical democratic socialist ever to run in the country.
He's to the left of Bernie Sanders, the guy has never met a convicted murderer that he doesn't want to set free.
The guy wants to open up Pennsylvania's prisons and allow these prisoners back out on the street.
This guy wants no restrictions at all on abortion, none whatsoever.
He'll destroy Pennsylvania's economy with his moratorium on fracking.
I mean, just insane.
You look at his other positions.
I mean, this is a guy that is completely, utterly out of touch with the people of Pennsylvania.
I mean, he wants, you know, Pennsylvania to be a sanctuary state.
He wants taxpayers to pay for safe shooting zones for heroin.
I mean, he's out of his mind and literally is out of his mind.
And those are his positions.
He doesn't want to debate.
Early voting has been going on for weeks.
He won't debate Oz until the end of October, just before the election.
I mean, it's so unfair to the people of Pennsylvania.
He's only agreed to one debate, and he has to have a teleprompter and closed captioning.
It's unreal.
Anyway, so in this, he's repeatedly pressed on the issue of his medical reports.
He steadfastly refuses to give the people of Pennsylvania any real information about his medical condition.
It's very clear that he's struggling mightily on a cognitive level.
Listen.
So you say you're on the road to full recovery, but right now, voters really have to take your word for it.
We've asked for your medical records.
We've asked to have a conversation with someone from your medical team to interview your physician.
You've declined those requests.
Why?
Well, I feel like we have been very transparent in a lot of different ways when our doctor has already given a letter saying that I'm able to serve and to be running.
I mean, respectfully, that letter from your physician was six months ago.
Don't voters deserve to know your status now.
Being in front of thousands and thousands of people and having interviews and getting around all across Pennsylvania, that gives everybody and the voters decide if they think that it's really the issue.
We had a monitor set up so that he could read my questions because he still has lingering auditory processing issues as a result of the stroke, which means he has a hard time understanding what he's hearing.
Now, once he reads the question, he's able to understand.
You'll hear he also still has some problems, some challenges with speech.
And I'll say, Katie, that just in some of the small talk prior to the interview before the closed captioning was up and running, it did seem that he had a hard time understanding our conversation.
And then, of course, he just goes on to, you know, in recent days, he talks about kicking balls in the authority, obviously mixing up the two words.
And then he talks about President Bin, obviously meaning President Biden.
You know, and I won't go through it all, but he refuses to say that he disagrees with defunding the police because we know he does support this.
He was a disaster.
The mayor of Braddock lost, you know, it only had 2,100 people, population, average income, $21,000.
He did nothing to improve the city of Braddock.
Never showed up at council meetings, rarely did.
He missed at least 50 of them.
He's lazy.
He's never had a real job in his life.
And all of these bizarre positions that he even, you know, and tries to not answer them during this interview, wouldn't answer the question about defunding the police, which we know he supports.
He's been very focused on the issue of no restrictions on abortion, but he doesn't want to say it.
He's asked about the incident when he chased down an African-American jogger and stuck a gun in this poor innocent man's face, you know, and can't even give a straight answer on his moratorium on fracking.
And this guy, you know, as of now, has not gotten the scrutiny that one would deserve.
If you're going to be a senator, I mean, you have to ask, okay, what qualifies you to be a senator?
Because he's obviously not qualified.
Project Veritas, I see, has struck again.
This is pretty interesting.
Now, we've talked all about Katie Hobbs, and she actually is running for governor.
We had Carrie Lake on the program yesterday.
Katie Hobbs said it's ridiculous to focus on the border.
What?
This is a border state.
Although every state, you can argue now is because of Joe's policies.
And then, of course, she wants amnesty.
Unbelievable.
No restrictions on abortion.
We learned that this week.
Even her Democratic counterparts are like, oh, why did you have to say that?
She won't debate Kerry Lake, denying the people of Arizona an opportunity to see the two candidates debate.
A woman that was found libel of racial discrimination and a racial discrimination case in employment, not once, but twice.
She says she's for tax cuts, but we have 13 examples where she voted against them.
Her staff has accused her of being emotionally abusive, kind of like Linda beat me up every day.
I feel that pressure all the time.
You do?
I'm not a snowball.
Should I get you puppies and Coco?
You want to go sit in the corner and talk about your feelings?
And by the way, she couldn't even answer a simple question about her relationship with the Hispanic community in Arizona.
Anyway, James O'Keefe went out there and they got tape of her saying, explaining, I'm not going to talk to a politician.
We won't talk to anybody we don't know.
They have a field organizer expressing concerns of Katie Hobbs not debating Lake.
And their political consultant says that Hobbs would support an assault weapons ban, but they make fun of people in Arizona and their love of the Second Amendment.
Listen.
RC Maxwell with President Barakov's action.
That's the great question about statements that he made.
Oh, you're supposed to put up.
And he's like, oh, and I was like, I referred to that team.
And I don't know why.
It's like, now that I'm in this conversation, it's like, wow, it's very late.
I was like, no.
I'm like, I don't want to talk to you.
I don't want to talk to anyone who I don't know.
We have a lot of concerns about Katie's family.
Right.
Why not?
We don't know.
So it's not so important.
And you're like, how do you not know?
It's between between us when we had really big staff training in her communication circuit.
And I think she's only done her job for a few weeks.
She was not prepared.
And she was like, what are the questions you're getting that you want an answer for?
Like, what are we hearing from voters at home too?
And they're all niggas wanting to be voting carelessly.
And I'm just like, you got to know.
You've got to know that's the question that's coming.
Wait, so Katie's employee didn't have an answer, or Katie's answer.
So she makes the message.
So the champagne doesn't have a concern.
Basically said, only Democrats care about debates, and I'm going to change anybody.
Yeah, but she is kind of like, they were saying only Democratic voters, but they're supposed to have these out of votes because Democrats are going to vote for anyway, which is exactly, which is true, but it has a politician overall.
So I'm taking these votes for granted.
And I'm not going to stop playing.
I mean, this is a lady that doesn't want to debate, has nothing but contempt for the Second Amendment, is hiding her real positions, and it's just so manipulative and frankly so common.
And this is what we're seeing all over the country in gubernatorial debates and gubernatorial races and Senate races.
I mean, I feel bad for Blake Masters.
He's got this idiot libertarian that's drawing votes away from him.
Otherwise, he would be Mark Kelly.
If you're in Arizona and you're voting for Kyrie Lake, she's up by four or five.
And Blake Masters is losing votes to a Libertarian in the race that's not going to win.
And by the way, often Democrats encourage this type of participation of libertarians.
They've done it for years.
But Blake Masters is the better choice.
And if you don't want Mark Kelly, a Schumer wannabe, he's Chuck Schumer in Arizona, the way he votes.
There's no difference.
I know he's an astronaut.
I got it.
But it's how he votes, the radical positions he's taken.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program, let's say hi to Annette in Alaska.
What's up, Annette?
How are you?
How cold are things up there right now?
It's getting cold.
It was down to 32 this morning.
32.
And you know what?
You can keep your 32-degree weather.
I've watched enough episodes of Life Below Zero and Deadliest Catch to know that I can't, I couldn't hack it.
I'm too weak.
I'm too addicted to the grid.
You should come up and see it.
But I got to tell you, this is an extremely happy day for me, and I'm glad to be on your show.
And thank you, Sean.
Oh, thank you for calling.
Thank you for being with us.
We're so glad you made it.
Thank you.
I believe the national talk shows are not as focused and concerned about the Alaska Senate race as they should be.
In the last few weeks, dark money, Sean, dark money, in the form of the Mitch McConnell Senatorial Fund has been $9 million.
I'm very well aware of it.
Oh, you've got it.
And he's giving it to prop up liberal Lisa Makowski and hurt the Republican friend Kelly Chewbacca.
I got it.
You've got to be.
I hope you guys get more focused on this.
Can you picture Lisa Murkowski being sent back to the Senate?
Listen, I'm just saying the answer is Mitch McConnell has no business propping up the most liberal senator in the Republican caucus when the people of Alaska overwhelmingly want her out.
And because of your screwed up system of voting there, that money is extremely dangerous.
That money should be spent on Blake Masters.
That money should be spent on Herschel Walker, Dr. Oz, JD Vance, Adam Laxalt.
Not on Lisa Murkowski.
He's taking Republican money to batter conservative Republicans, which is another reason why his leadership days need to come to an end.
He needs to retire.
Did you know that the Alaska Republican Committee, the Alaska one, censored her?
Yes.
Our Republican.
I do.
Yeah, they censored her.
And yet he is pouring this money in here.
I hope this is a good idea.
I'm so disgusted that he would waste $9 million 27 days out of an election and involve himself in a race to save a rhino Republican with the worst voting record of any Republican in the Senate.
It's a disgrace.
But Republicans in Alaska, please, Kelly Chewbacca, let her win outright.
And Mitch McConnell, just remember, he wasted $9 million trying to tear down Kelly Chewbacca.
Yes, my friend.
I think he's a genuine swamp creature, Mitch McConnell.
But anyway.
Well, I think I'm going to, if I was you, I'd invest very heavily in toe warmers and hand warmers because you're going to need them.
I've been away for 40-some years, buddy.
Man, my blood's too thin.
I couldn't hack it.
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Let us say hi to Bob in Minneapolis.
Bob, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
I'm a retired Minneapolis City bus driver originally from Cranston, Rhode Island.
I've heard you spent some time there and you know the Blounts.
I do.
As a matter of fact, I worked in Blount Marine for a few months.
Now, it wasn't a very long period of time.
And I was lucky at that point in my life.
I just broken my arm in construction.
I had no money in the bank, and I was like, I desperately needed to work.
And I had a very nice foreman that let me heal and work at the same time.
Well, you're a hard worker, Sean.
But I have a question for you.
It's a theory I have.
Do you think that the Democrats want this war with Russia to continue because it's their excuse for inflation and high prices?
You know, the election's getting closer.
Biden is blaming Russia for the high prices, but we all know that his bad economic and energy policies are responsible for the high inflation we're experiencing.
What do you think?
Look, I think the bottom line is for me, I'm very angry that we're pouring all this money into this war, but we're not giving, and I'm talking more about Western Europe more than us.
We're not giving Zelensky the firepower to win it.
And now look what's happened.
You know, they took out the one bridge in Crimea that was vital to Russian support and supplies, and they wiped it out.
And what does Putin do?
Threatens to use nukes.
Joe Biden talks about nuclear Armageddon, the worst nuclear crisis since the Cuban Missile Crisis and goes on vacation.
I have no idea what they're thinking.
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