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Sept. 14, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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Weaponizing Government - September 13th, Hour 3
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You know, it is uh amazing when you look at, you know, these numbers and the economy and and the difficulties, and two-thirds of Americans now living paycheck to paycheck and and how tough it's been.
And then you look at government spending and what thirty-one trillion dollars record debt that we have now accrued.
And how do you how do our kids ever pay that money back?
Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers, they're they co-host their own drill down podcast, which is doing very, very well, by the way.
Um they did a story yesterday about how many government agencies are being weaponized, and that starts with the NIH to the EPA.
We've talked a lot about the FBI being politicized and all these whistleblowers that are coming forward.
Uh we've talked about the DOJ uh being weaponized and politicized as well.
Um, but you have all these non-military federal agencies, even health and human services, even NASA have become increasingly militarized even over the years, and these non-military federal agencies are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on weapons and tactical equipment.
You know, for example, how many of us knew that IRS agents were ever armed?
You know, now we find out the IRS spent what, nearly 700,000 on ammo this year, and they will receive eighty billion dollars uh to hire eighty-seven, what, thousand new IRS agents that will basically be giving all of you the Hannity treatment.
Wait up, Hannity pulls file.
They're thinking that's why I have two accounting firms and one law firm going over my taxes every year.
And the words pay it, pay it, pay it come out of my mouth every time they call me.
Um you wouldn't think that they would have that, or the EPA would have weapons and tactical equipment.
What is the hell is going on here?
I mean, if you look at the militarization of America report found that agencies spent one point eight one point four eight billion dollars on guns, ammo, military style equipment between two thousand six and two thousand fourteen.
Now, that includes the IRS.
Why are IRS agents in need of AR-15s and EPA bureaucrats wearing camouflage?
Talking about the environmental protection agency or the Department of Veterans Affairs.
I mean, eleven point six million.
Here to break it all down is Eric Eggers and uh Peter Schweitzer, both with the government accountability agency that they've created as well.
Guys, welcome back to the program.
Thanks, Sean, for having us.
I'm not doing this justice.
Why don't you, Peter, you know, break it down and then we'll go to Eric and get his breakdown.
Sure, Sean.
I mean, look at it in the big perspective.
Um, today in the United States, there are more armed bureaucrats.
That's people that work for uh NASA or health and human services than the IRS.
There are more armed American bureaucrats than there are active duty members of the United States Marine Corps.
Uh that is unprecedented.
We have reached a point in America where a lot of these government agencies who are failing at their jobs uh are uh you know feeling like they need the ability to not only have guns and ammunition, but also arrest people uh at will.
So it takes a department like the Department of Veterans Affairs, You've done lots of reports on this.
We've all read the reports about how the VA has failed vets over and over and over again.
Well, in 1996, the Veterans Administration did not have any armed people working for them.
Today, there are 3900 agents that work for the Veterans Administration.
And they spent on ammunition just up to 30 millimeters.
So this doesn't include the big stuff.
3.8 million dollars on ammunition last year.
On guns, they spent 2.4 million dollars.
They bought 11 million rounds of ammunition, which is 2800 rounds for each of their officers.
Why the Veterans Administration, which is supposed to be helping vets and has failed in that job miserably, is being armed in this way is patently ridiculous.
And we could go on and on and on with multiple examples.
Well, let me go to Eric.
Let's get your broad overview.
Yeah, I think the broad overview, Sean, and I agree with everything that Peter said is this part of a larger trend when you don't see government spending on anything go down.
And unfortunately, that includes uh weapons for bureaucrats.
I mean, think of the United States military spending has doubled in the last 20 years, and conceptually, as it's been pointed out recently, we're actually fighting two fewer wars than we were.
But the amount of money that we spend continues to go up.
And unfortunately, what happens is you get these weapons lobbyists, these defense contractors, and they've realized that there's other agencies they can sell their goods to as well.
So Glock, for example, the maker of weapons, which I know lots of people enjoy having personal firearm security and and the liberty to do so, and I support that.
Uh, but Glock has a hundred and seventeen contracts with various federal agencies, including ones like the Department of Interior and ones that should have no business with weapons.
Um the IRS, as you pointed out, spent seven hundred thousand dollars on ammunition.
They spent nearly eleven million dollars.
The IRS, people with calculators, right, and lawyers uh are also spending eleven million dollars on guns and military style equipment for its two thousand agents.
Now, I will point out, uh I think that's very troubling, but just for Eric Egger's perspective, uh, if it's going to keep me from getting the handity treatment, I have no problem with the IRS being heavily armed, right?
Spend the money on whatever you want.
But, you know, it's so Eric Eggers is a fan.
But the larger trend listen, I'm I'm just telling but the pro the the issue here isn't about Hannity.
It just is Do you know how expensive it is to hire all the accountants?
My lawyer insists on my my own personal accountants, they do my taxes.
Then he insists that his accounting firm do my taxes.
And then him and his team of lawyers insist that they go over everything after the taxes are done by two accounting firms to make sure that everything's right and everything's correct.
I mean, it's uh now rich people can afford that.
Wealthy people can afford that.
And they're gonna they they know every rule, they know the the laws inside and out, they know the deductions inside and out, and the average person you're if you make under $25,000 a year, you're five times more likely to get audited.
Why are they going after those people?
Because they suspect that they're not making $25,000 a year that they're hiding their income.
No, that's exactly correct.
Can they afford the accountants and attorneys?
I doubt it.
No, they absolutely cannot.
And uh it's an it's another example of what happens when the government gets too big.
The government in the IRS has gotten massively too big, and it's only going to get bigger, and that's going to hurt everyday Americans.
We're seeing the same thing with the weapons.
The EPA, as you noted, they've got camouflage, they've got sniper rifles, they've got silencers.
They're raiding go uh mines.
There's a famous story from Alaska.
The a town in Alaska had 17 full-time residents.
They sent eight undercover EPA agents with weapons to inspect a potential violation of the Clean Water Act.
That's something that should be done by a scientist with a beaker, not a bureaucrat in Kevlar.
But Eric, you're talking about the EPA spending three point one million on guns, ammo, equipment, drones, night vision, camouflage, other deceptive equipment, and body armor.
The IRS a mil 11 million dollars on guns, ammo, military-style equipment or 2,316 special agents.
It's like they're ready for war.
It is like they're ready for war, and Peter Schweitzer makes a great point about this this is the least efficient way to do this.
We actually have people who are trained to engage in armed combat.
They're called the police.
Uh, they don't work for the EPA, they don't work for the Veterans Affairs.
They work in our local communities, and as Peter points out, he can talk more about this, they're naturally oriented to be a neutral arbiter to try to decide that actually justice should be done uh without some heavy handed bureaucracy pushing the needs and concerns of the everyday American to the side because they've got weapons and they don't want to decide how to use them.
You know, I I'm looking at all of these statistics in this report, honestly, the the drill down that you podcast research that you put out.
I mean, I'm I'm stunned, Peter.
I'm looking at all of this, you know, and and Eric mentioned the Department of Veterans Affairs.
You're right, they've done a horrible job taking care of our vets.
Now, under President Trump, a lot of that was resolved, and veterans now have the option, thankfully, that if they are put on the back of the line and they're years away from getting the assistance they need, they can now go to another doctor and the government will pay for it.
That is a huge advantage.
But looking at all of this money, you know, 11.6 million dollars, you know, 7.7 million on guns and ammunition, 4 million on equipment, what what do they need that at the Department of Veterans Affairs for?
It's a good question, Sean.
I mean, to me, it's the classic example of mission creep.
Um, you know, the Centers for Disease Control, which was supposed to be a central component of fighting a pandemic, was too busy getting involved with regulating motorcycle helmets and playground equipment.
They went beyond what their mission was.
And what you're seeing with a lot of these government agencies is they are engaged in mission creep.
But unlike sort of, you know, typical mission creep where there's waste and there's abuse, uh, this has the potential to be really threatening to the average American.
Uh, because look, these guns are not being uh aimed at a foreign power.
They're being aimed at the American people.
And you know, if you think about a standoff that a rancher might have with the EPA, the EPA, you know, claiming they're violating the Clean Water Act.
You are much better off for the EPA to come with a local sheriff and try to discuss that than have the EPA show up with their own paramilitary types to try to deal with this issue.
You need to have a neutral party there like a local sheriff, and you're not getting with these questions.
It's the same, it's the same at school board meetings.
That would be an area where if there's a problem at a school board meeting, you're calling the local police.
I couldn't believe that the that we even have an animal and plant health inspection service in the federal government, but apparently we do, and and they're spending millions and millions on guns and ammunition, et cetera.
And we have NASA, I'm not sure why NASA would need all of this.
Um I and then the EPA and Social Security Administration, and and why would the Health and Human Services Administration need $13 million uh every year, you know, or over a course of a couple of years for this type of spending, guns and ammunition, 11 million, nearly 12 million dollars in guns and ammunition?
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, Sean, the one that got me was uh the National Institutes of Health, which has been much in the news.
There was actually a government accountability office report that explained that NIH reported having, quote, pyrotechnics and large caliber launchers.
Uh in other words, grenade launchers.
Why the NIH is buying and needs grenade launchers uh is beyond me.
Um and this is the sort of thing that I think Sean makes people fear their government.
You know, people have been saying for years that, oh, the reason that people are so, you know, concerned about the government is there's been all this hateful rhetoric.
No.
It's because the government is engaging in precisely this type of behavior that makes the average American concerned and distrust government and see government not as a servant of the people, but as an institution that's in a sense trying to become their master.
So, as I said, this is not just about fraud and waste.
This is about the nature and the stance that our government is taking towards the people they are supposed to serve, and it's very, very disturbing as far as I'm concerned.
Quick break right back.
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All right, we continue with Eric Eggers And Peter Schweitzer, their podcast, The Drill Down, uh has found some amazing new information about how agencies you would never imagine how uh militarized they've become.
I give you both a lot of credit because most people don't have the time, uh the ability to do uh a real check on and and on what it is the government spending money on.
And I know the government accountability institute, which you guys are part of, are are very responsible and thankful that you have whatever funding you have to be able to do this.
I would imagine that the average American, when they found out the IRS uh agents was that heavily armed was shocked.
I I don't get shocked that often, Eric anymore.
Nothing shocks me at this point.
But that kind of shocked me.
And then as you did a deeper dive into this, my mouth was open.
It is incredibly shocking.
And I think unfortunately, what's not shocking is the hypocrisy behind it.
Because think about what we're talking about.
Uh, and this has actually been one of the central tenants that we at the Government Accountability Institute, uh, which has been faithfully run by Peter for the last decade, have kind of really tried to hammer home to people.
People think that big business and big government are enemies, but the opposite is true.
They're actually business partners, and this is a classic example of that.
You've got the gun lobbies who are now making money and in some cases being propped up because the the government is one of their clients.
While at the same time, the leader of the federal government, aka President Joe Biden, is demonizing the guns and the gun lobby when you have fenseless tragedies.
So it's interesting that on the one hand, uh guns are being made out to be a threat to uh the freedom of the American people, while at the same time the man who says that Joe Biden is actually leading the agencies who then buy many of those same guns for departments that would seem to have no need for them.
That's just one of the many examples of hypocrisy uh that comes with the merge of big business into government.
You would never convince me that any of the agencies we've just discussed need an arsenal the way they've built one up.
That is insanity to me.
And that's why we have police.
That's why you shouldn't defund the police.
Funny, the people that want to defund dismantle police and let even violent criminals out with no bail are the ones that are armying themselves to the to the you know nth degree.
It's crazy.
Anyway, we appreciate both of you, Eric Eggers and uh Peter Schweitzer.
Um thank you for this report.
And uh their podcast is called the drill down.
That this is drilling down deep.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
Thanks, Sean.
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Joe did not have a good day yesterday.
When he was just stumbling, stammering as usual uh yesterday.
Uh let's play a little of Joe.
It's frustrating.
It's inconvenient, it is bad for the environment.
And there's simply no reason for it.
This is the United States Khmer for God's sake.
This is who we are.
This is not this is not what we should be doing.
What did he say?
The United States of what?
Can you play that again?
I want to make sure I heard him right.
This is the United States Khmer for God's sake.
This is who we are.
This is not this is not what we should be doing.
Are we the United States of Camara?
Because that's what I'm saying.
I think he said Gumera Gumera.
Gumera.
It's got a nice link to it.
Not for nothing.
Now, Jill Biden spoke out.
This is the thing.
Look, I have contacts, I have sources, I know people that have been around Joe Biden.
Everything that I tell you on the air is a hundred percent confirmed by people that have seen it up close regularly.
And frankly, I'm being told it's worse than what we see.
Then that would mean that Jill Biden would know.
And the question is, why do they keep forcing this guy out when he's clearly not up to the job?
But Joe Biden, Jill Biden wants him to run again.
Listen.
Dr. Biden has been first lady now for nearly two years with the president saying he will run again in 2024.
Have you talked about it with him?
Uh not yet.
We've been a little bit too busy.
Not yet, but uh I'm sure it'll be a discussion.
Do you feel ready, you and President Biden to to hit a second presidential campaign?
Has to be taxing.
Well, you know, it is taxing, but you know, look at the look at all Joe has done.
He has kept true to what he said he would do.
And uh so I think he just needs to keep going.
Look at what he's done.
Forty one year high record inflation, highest gas prices, nearly doubled what we were paying.
He's now made us dependent on uh the lifeblood of our economy, begging countries that hate us for energy when we have plenty of the of resources on our own.
We don't need their energy.
We have plenty.
We'd create high paying jobs in America, would lower the cost of energy for everybody.
That would help with inflation.
Yes, we had another record high inflation number today.
Wide open borders, preferential treatment for people that don't respect our laws, sovereignty, our borders, people that get preferential treatment, free phones, free transportation, no COVID tests, no vaccine mandate, nothing.
What he's done for America.
Great job in Afghanistan too, Joe.
So we've been trying to independently uh corroborate uh a report by CNBC in the last well, half hour or so that uh attorney Ken Starr has passed away, apparently from complications due to a surgery he went through.
Uh he's been a longtime friend of the show.
Um course the independent prosecutor looking into Bill Clinton, controversial figure at the time, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet in your life.
And uh I just want to send our deepest condolences uh to his family.
Our thoughts and prayers are with all of them today.
It's never fun to lose a loved one.
Uh, but he was a towering intellect in terms of being a lawyer, that I can tell you for the many appearances he made on TV and radio, and uh he'll be missed.
Uh let's say hi to uh Lee is in Ohio.
Lee, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
We're gonna have JD Vance on soon.
We're uh following his candidacy.
Tim Ryan is a phony.
By the way, how much do you know about Tim Ryan?
He's a total phony.
Yeah, he doesn't even come off well on TV.
You know, this guy is he's running around Ohio.
I talked to my buddy Billy Cunningham.
Sean Hannity, you're a great American.
God bless you.
God bless America.
I want a full report.
Uh that's pretty good, right?
Yeah.
Anyway, he votes with Biden.
Get this a hundred percent of the time.
One hundred percent.
He's pretending to be a moderate.
This is a guy that brags about getting rid of the filibuster, says it over and over and over again.
He wants to get rid of the legislative filibuster.
Uh this is a guy when I'm in the Senate, make no mistake, I'll proudly vote to end the filibuster and pass the women's health protection act to protect the rights of all people in Ohio to have safe legal abortion.
That allowed abortion up until with no restrictions.
Are you kidding me?
That would be called infanticide, these late term abortions.
He voted to I don't believe that um people in Ohio are that dumb.
By the way, I wouldn't say it that way, but yeah, that's one way to say it.
I actually think the people in Ohio are the heart and soul of the country.
They're great.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they are.
And uh So he vo he wants to he's even supports funding elective abortions in foreign countries with our tax dollars.
He's part of the climate alarmist cult.
And now, by the way, when asked about overpopulation, he said the government needs to be involved in family planning to combat global warming.
Is he insane?
What does that mean?
Is we're gonna invite the government in our bedrooms to make sure that uh we're using birth control, uh, voted against the Keystone XL pipeline, wants to end fracking.
You know, he's another one of these, you know, called the criminal justice system racist, uh, is against our second amendment rights.
I mean uh it's unbelievable unbelievable.
I don't know.
I don't know what population in Ohio that he's catering to, but um there's no one that I know or anyone that I've talked to that is anywhere close to what his reality is.
Well, we're supporting J. D. Vance.
Well well he hasn't really needed our attention, to be honest, because he's leading by five six in the polls, and so we're going where we're we're paying attention to the races that are closest.
Yeah, good man, good man.
Hey, what I was calling for was I'd like to have your input on why you feel I mean, I know you can't speak for them, but um, why do you suppose we've heard no outrage from our Pfizer court judges?
It's a great question.
I don't know why.
And by the way, those judges are appointed by the Supreme Court Chief Justice, that would be John Roberts.
Uh-huh.
Um I i if if you ever lie to a judge, there's certain things I advise everybody.
Never try and avoid violence your whole life, even when people are trying to provoke you, just avoid it.
You know, I've I've said even though I have the ability to defend myself, I'll I would run away on camera and look like a little coward if it meant keeping peace.
Because I don't want to involve myself in that.
I have to if I'm cornered I have no choice.
But you know certain other things.
Always pay your taxes.
You know we have eighty seven thousand new IRS agents that'll be coming after you.
Pay your taxes because you don't want to get caught.
And and to your point, you know I I think you're dead on accurate you don't lie to a judge you don't lie under oath.
Now my concern though, Sean is the Democrats seem to have no problem in finding judges who don't have a problem with looking the other way or disregarding our constitution.
I'm hoping these five court judges aren't part of that program but the Republicans and our conservative base we need to find constitutional judges to take these issues to court because most of our differences are going to end up in court.
I cannot for the life of me understand they lied no they knew for sure they were warned before the first Pfizer application not to use it.
They were warned that it was a political document they were warned it was unverified and they still signed it.
And they knew by the second and third Pfizer warrants and certainly by the fourth Pfizer warrant that even the subsource of Christopher Steele had debunked all of it and said none of that's true.
That was all bar talk and they still used it to destroy Carter Page's life and backdoor spy on Donald Trump the candidate and Donald Trump the president.
And nobody no nobody seems to care except a few of us.
We we've been vindicated we got every aspect of that conspiracy theory we were able to debunk it and yet no I haven't got my Pulitzer yet.
Maybe maybe Maggie Haberman will share hers with me because she got it for a full story on the Russia collusion nonsense.
Oh hey something real quick I'd like to ask if you wouldn't mind um I called in a couple weeks ago and he was from South Dakota and he said they were mining lithium and you said you knew the governor you'd had her on the show and that you were going to um have your team get in touch with her have you had the opportunity to do that.
Linda did we follow up on that did we ever get to uh Christy Noam on that I will today.
Okay.
I think we forgot we might have dropped the ball but we used to be definitely dropped the ball sorry Lee.
No you guys are stellar and I'm Linda's fault I'm definitely my fault.
Here at the Hannity Show we take full responsibility and accountability for our actions unlike the federal government.
I'm sorry Linda Christy No will get back to us she will she's always she's the best yes Lee what can I do for you?
We'll get that we'll get that information.
All right Lee appreciate it buddy.
uh dave pennsylvania what's up dave how are you on um patriotic entertainer tour the country you know support of our country our freedoms our liberty but i wanted to um ask you a couple questions about the separation of church and state and since listen i've been looking at it from a different perspective um instead of from a policy perspective where you know one side stays out of each other's business sort of you know compared to one another i started looking at it from an actions perspective and i want to know your thoughts about how the government has pretty much
created entitlement programs that have taken away the power from the church to be the humanitarian arm of this country um basically what specifically are you referring to I'm not quite I'm not quite following you.
What what specifically do you mean it's tricky it's a tricky perspective.
I I agree we we talked about this on the screen or but listen so we know the church is the backbone or was the backbone of the humanitarian effort in this in our communities and across our nation that was one of the I think in many ways churches still are don't you?
I y well compared to the government would you not say that the government is sort of overstepping the boundaries of the establishment clause by coming in and being the helping hand a little bit too much towards you hitting on a very interesting point because what you're talking about is every authoritarian regime uh they you know They they consider religion or faith,
put it that way, you know, the opiate of the people, and the state is becomes the religion.
In other words, they don't believe in natural law.
What separates America profoundly from so many other countries is our belief in natural law, that we're endowed by a creator, a God.
Um, and that and that the bet if if in fact you believe that, the that is predicated on another belief, which is that if God created every man, woman, and child, that God has created talents and abilities in each individual.
And that the only way you're ever really going to truly self-actualize and meet your potential in life, is if you take those talents and bring them to fruition.
It's interesting that the root definition from the Latin of education is to bring forth from within, meaning God put it there.
And so that separates us certainly from authoritarian regimes that believe the state is, you know, rights come from government, not from God.
That would be a huge difference.
That makes sense.
But I think there's well, I agree, but I just still believe that there's a lot of constitutional confusion behind the actions of the government and the legislation and the policy laid forth by the establishment clause and the separation of church and state.
So it's labeled basically, hey, okay, you can't over-legislate into the body of Christ or into the body of any specific religion by the government, but it's also laid in the other way to say that hey, you can't come in here and govern from the the pew or the pulpit.
So the the ideas should go both ways.
But the actions of the government, they see these people coming to Christ with their knees down and their heads bowed, you know, asking for grace.
And instead of the grace coming from the body of the church, they intercede by becoming the entitlement program, the person that's pushing into it.
So that's that's the way that I'm not sure.
Well, they certainly want to be, they certainly want to ballot.
They certainly want to control every aspect of our lives.
And that's that's the fallacy of socialism.
You know, I wrote a whole chapter in Live Free or Die.
The history of social the the history of socialism and its failures.
And whatever name, whatever form, whatever manifestation it's taken on, they always promise security and guaranteed government job and wage and health care and healthy food and pre-K and college and and retirement, and it never comes true.
It always ends the same way.
It ends with unfulfilled promises, it ends with more poverty, and then it ends with a loss of freedom at the other s on the other side of it.
Because you're empowering people to do that which we should be doing for ourselves.
And I I I think to the best of my ability, I'm answering your question.
It's uh I I I get what you're saying, and I understand it completely.
I just think that most people may not be able to quite grasp the extent to the degree that we are dependent on government or elected officials for anything.
We are giving up our freedom and our liberty for that so-called security, and you end up losing your freedom in the process.
And freedom is the natural state or natural law, if you will, of God.
Government in its best state is but a necessary evil, Thomas Payne said.
In its worst state, an intolerable evil.
And I think we're seeing the intolerable side of it right now.
I hope that answers your question.
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