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So now we know that the FBI walked out this one agent.
We're now hearing from Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Chuck Grassley, and Congressman Jim Jordan that numerous whistleblowers are coming forward with stories about abuse of power and corruption within the FBI and the Department of Justice.
We know not only did they take with this very broad warrant, which I warned about in the beginning, that warrant was so broad, not only did they take the president's passports, but they also took, it looks like, attorney-client privilege information.
And this whole idea that Merrick Garland, that we're going to trust his taint teams instead of appointing, as he should have, a special master is a joke and a charade.
That's like letting cops investigate cops.
And Merrick Garland now is even admitting that they, in fact, have looked at everything.
So what's the point at this point?
Then, of course, we have the obvious, and that is the dual system of justice in this country.
One system for Hillary Clinton, 33,000 emails just magically disappeared due to something called bleach pit that nobody had ever heard of until it was required that she turn over her emails on her numerous servers that had top secret and classified information on it.
Just disappeared.
Devices destroyed with hammers, SIM cards removed from devices.
That sounds like obstruction to me, but according to James Comey, no prosecutor would ever prosecute.
In the 30,000 emails they did have, they did find numerous examples of top-secret, classified information, classified, top-secret at the time that she was sending and receiving them on the emails that they actually were able to retrieve.
So now we're talking about a dual system of justice.
And now with this new guy, Tim Thibault, getting walked out of the FBI apparently last Friday, according to Kerry Pickett, who joined us earlier, now the question is, what other people are involved in politics?
Because the accusation there is that in the case of Hunter Biden, that there were people being told, yeah, as it relates to Hunter Biden, even though we've had the laptop going on three years, they politicized it.
They minimized the contents of it.
Yet we already know some of the contents point directly to specific crimes committed by Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden implicates repeatedly his father, if he even knows he's the president, Joe Biden.
Yet there's no FBI investigation.
There's no raid of Hunter's home.
There was no raid of Hillary's home, just Donald Trump.
And the double standard continues.
Anyway, John Solomon, investigative reporter, justthenews.com is with us, as well as Alina Haba.
She is the counsel for the president.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Alina, I saw the president's reaction on Truth Social last night.
Does this mean this comes to an end?
I don't think so.
No.
No.
No way it comes to an end.
What would they do?
They would have nothing to report anymore.
It's the endless witch hunt, obviously, we have been dealing with, as you astutely pointed out, the double standard.
It's a very frightening time for American citizens.
I think we should be concerned.
At least Thibault has been walked out, but that doesn't prevent the fact that nobody has picked up the pieces and started to investigate Hunter Biden's laptop from hell or any of the other items.
You know, Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would go after something relating to NARA and documents.
And this was, like you said, Hillary can be willy-nilly with emails who are going to other countries.
This is a NARA negotiation.
It was a ridiculous raid, and it's really going to hurt them in the midterms.
And that's why we've got $10,000 in student debt being handed out right now, right?
I mean, they're getting desperate.
It looks like bribery to me in lieu of the pending midterm elections.
Sure, I'll vote for the team that gives me debt forgiveness.
By the way, a little detail on that.
Nobody picked up on it.
If you get debt forgiveness, you're going to get taxed on the money they give you.
So you're still going to end up paying about half, especially if you live in New York.
John Solomon, you've been following this.
Let's compare this a little bit, shall we?
Walking out of Tebow from the FBI.
That happened to another guy.
That guy's name was Peter Strzzok.
He was escorted, if I recall correctly, out of the FBI.
And he's the guy whose text messages with Lisa Page said that he would stop Donald Trump from ever becoming president.
He's the guy that a week later said that he liked Lisa Page's plan that they contrived in Andy's office, we assume Andy McCabe.
But in case that doesn't work, they have an insurance policy.
He's now all over MSDNC and fake news CNN.
There was no accountability.
The issue of bias has been around since we learned the text messages between Pete Strzzok and Lisa Page, that there were these elitists inside the FBI who thought that their political opinions were more important than their oath to their job.
And that's what those text messages shook so many people's confidence in the FBI.
Peter Strzok was fired.
He was fired for what he put in those official text messages on his official government phone.
Mr. Thibault was allowed to retire.
And this is going to be important because a lot of people don't know this, but Chuck Grassley's complaint about what went on in the Washington field office about the opening of an investigation into Donald Trump in 2020 based on liberal news articles and the shutting down of a Hunter Biden investigation or tampering with a Hunter Biden investigation by claiming accurate evidence was actually disinformation, a laptop, for instance.
There is an ongoing Inspector General's investigation by the Justice Department into these issues.
Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson's complaints prompted the Justice Department Inspector General.
Yes, Michael Horatz, the same guy that reviewed the Russia collusion case.
What happens with a guy like Thibault when you retire?
You take yourself out from having to comply with that investigation.
Retirement is one of the ways that people get out of having to answer the questions that the IG have.
It's a weakness in the Inspector General's system that for years we've known about.
But that's going to put a wrinkle into the effort to get to the bottom of what was going on, at least for the Inspector General.
And it's going to become more and more important for Republicans in Congress to use their constitutional oversight capabilities to get answers that the IG may not be able to get.
So are you basically preparing us for another letdown like the Durham report that never came out and people get away scot-free?
Is that what you're basically saying?
We don't need letters.
We need testimony.
We need subpoenas to get to the bottom of this.
And so letters are great.
But next year, if they've got the flight stick, they've got to be able to get to the bottom of these issues because corrupting investigations undercuts the entire mission of the FBI.
It certainly does.
What is your take?
What is, for example, now that they've looked through even attorney client privilege information, Alina, what is the next step for your team as the president's attorney?
And is there anything that you can do in regards to what has been taken out of Mar-a-Lago?
And why did they feel a need to raid when a simple subpoena would have probably sufficed in this case?
Right.
Well, you can't unring a bell.
You know, despite what they're saying, they're going to say that they had this taint team, this separate investigative team and part of the DOJ that went through.
So they're not going to talk.
I don't believe that for a second.
I don't think anybody would believe that.
So we can't really do anything about what's been done thus far.
The problem is, and I think this is an important thing to note that I really haven't spoken about, but that this is an investigation, much like the AG, right?
So in an investigation, we're not really a party to the suit.
And people keep saying, why did the team wait to file these motions?
Well, we had to wait.
There's numerous issues.
We had to get the affidavit.
And now we can see that they've already gone through the documents.
So unfortunately, Sean, no, I don't think we can unring the bell in terms of what they've seen.
Do I hope that the DOJ isn't sharing it and the team isn't sharing it?
Sure.
Do I believe it?
No.
In terms of what we do in the future, you know, there's a Fourth Amendment, like you brought up.
There's a Fourth Amendment issue here.
The warrant was way too broad.
We do have Judge Cannon, who's the federal judge, that's taken up this case.
There's a hearing on Thursday.
I think that that will be giving us some judicial oversight that is much needed at this point, unlike Judge Reinhart, who's the magistrate judge who signed the warrant, the Epstein guy, as we call him, who also recused from my case against Hillary Clinton.
So at this point, I think the best thing we've done is we've gotten a judge in place who's a federal judge who does look like they're going to be active.
There's a hearing on Thursday.
Let's see how that goes.
And I think shortly thereafter, we do need to move forward with filing to invalidate the Fourth Amendment, the warrant due to Fourth Amendment issued.
What should take John Solomon?
What does this all mean to you?
As you look at it through the prism of going through the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, and now you see that the FBI under Christopher Wray has not cleaned up their act.
I mean, that should have been mission number one for him.
This is the exact same field office, the exact same people that were involved in the Trump-Russia collusion case.
So I don't know why anybody would have any faith or confidence that it has not continued being politicized.
And that is a serious charge against the FBI, walking somebody out under the cloud of protecting Hunter Biden within the FBI ranks, having 20-plus people wanting to be whistleblowers against the FBI and DOJ.
I would argue that's unprecedented in history.
I can't think of another example where something like that has ever happened.
Listen, the same problems that we saw with the FISA warrant are evident in this search warrant, an overly broad worded.
As Alina just noted, this is a very broadly worded search warrant.
The manual says we're supposed to be narrow and targeted.
The former FBI intelligence chief points out that this would never have passed his approval if he was still an assistant director.
You have the second part.
They're relying on news articles to make a case for a search warrant.
We saw how badly that ended for the Russia collusion case when they were using articles leaked by Christopher Steele to validate Christopher Steele's dossier.
You've got two news articles that are visible in this thing.
The same tactics that the FBI was using in Russia collusion appear to still be alive and well in the FBI.
And I think there's a third party.
And I want to see if Alina could weigh in on this.
There seems to be leaks in the news media that could only have come from the grand jury returned subpoena, the evidence that came from the grand jury subpoenas that were delivered in June.
If those are leaks of grand jury, does President Trump's lawyers go to the chief judge in the District of Columbia where that grand jury is currently impaneled and say, hey, these are leaks.
Let's find out what's going on here.
This could only have come from the returns of what the president gave in cooperating with the subpoena.
I'd like to know if that's a new avenue of a legal attack that the president might pursue.
Well, to answer your question, I can tell you that we've actually been monitoring both the FBI leaks and all of those leaks.
You know, this is something that they expose themselves to.
Unfortunately, they came out with that bogus, as you recall the first week it came out, there was he had the codes to bombs nuclear weapons, and then they bring out the affidavit and there's no mention of that.
That should have been a headline.
It was a leak to cover themselves up.
So absolutely, as you know, I have many defamation suits that I've pursued and you cannot ignore it.
I think the truth of the matter is everybody wants us to do it now, but we don't have all the information yet.
We still don't even have a completely unredacted affidavit.
They won't share it with the legal team, let alone the public seems to know more than we do.
So it's a problem.
And I think that the FBI is going to have major problems.
I think, John, just like, you know, Danchenko trial is coming up.
I'm going to be sitting in that trial just like I did in Sussman's trial.
And I'm going to be watching and listening to every testimony and hearing how the FBI was told by some supervisor, some agent, is told by a supervisor not to worry about something, just do it.
And when we hear that, we take note of it.
But I think you're right on point.
I think that's going to be a cause of action that he has.
And I would be surprised if we didn't pursue it.
All right, quick break more with the president's attorney, Alina Haba, and investigative journalist and reporter John Solomon of justthenews.com.
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All right, we continue our coverage of the raid of Mar-a-Lago with the president's attorney, Alina Haba, is with us, as well as John Solomon, justthenews.com, editor-in-chief.
Solomon, is there ultimate goal to arrest the former president?
Great question.
We don't know the answer yet, right?
Based on what we saw on the search warrant, it doesn't look like they have a very strong case.
That's what FBI experts are even telling us.
It doesn't look like a strong case, but we, you know, certainly you don't execute a search warrant unless you have some intent of maybe bringing criminal charges.
This was a great point.
And I watched your interview, by the way, and I thought it was a good interview with Kevin Brock.
He said that the FBI is going to regret criminalizing this dispute between the president and the National Archives.
Now, when you look at the timeline, in February, the National Archives and Record Administration sent a letter to the Trump team thanking them for all their cooperation.
In June, we know the FBI and the DOJ were on site at Mar-a-Lago, and they're the ones that asked for a padlock to be put on a certain door where some documents were.
The Trump people complied, and my understanding is that the president and witnesses will testify to this, said, come back anytime you want, take anything you need.
That's accurate.
Alina, you were on the phone at the time.
You heard it yourself.
Yeah, I got a call that they were there.
They wanted to know if I had coordinated it.
I said no.
Another attorney had.
And the president was there.
He went over and introduced himself, said, here you go.
That's absolutely a fact.
He let them in.
They went in.
They saw the boxes.
This was June 3rd.
It was the exact date.
I can tell you that I was also with the president the day of the raid.
I just happened to be with him in New York, and I could see the raid happening.
There is no hidden conversation here that the public doesn't know at this point.
There was a major gap.
They told us to padlock the storage.
It was padlocked.
It was secured.
Documents that they felt they needed to turn over, we turned over.
And then what happened between June 3rd and the letter, June 8th, and late August, is that the president's polls went up.
I mean, that's the only answer I can give you.
There is absolutely no reason that you would deal with a late library book and say, hey, we want more documents, but we're just going to raid you for it.
First of all, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Secondly, it's completely intrusive and unfounded.
Never has this ever happened to a president.
This is a normal situation.
People don't realize this happens with every president.
They take documents when they leave the White House.
They negotiate with NARA.
He decides which are personal.
He declassifies them.
Under the Presidential Records Act, it's his right.
This is a very normal thing, but they've criminalized it.
It's disgusting.
Thank you both.
Alina Haba, thank you.
John Solomon, thank you.
800-941 Sean is on number.
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All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
To our phones we go.
800-941-Sean Wyatt in Texas.
Hey, Wyatt, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Shauna.
I'm good.
And I was just wanting to call and comment on the student loan cancellation.
Yes, sir.
I'm not too happy about it.
And the reason is, I'm a college student myself.
I have student loans, and I work my butt off every summer and even during the school year to pay off my student loan because I don't qualify for any government help.
I don't like how they're like, oh, we're just going to cancel it.
Why do I have to work twice as hard to pay off my student loan and to pay off someone that doesn't do anything?
In the end, you probably, if you don't make 100,000, if you make under $125,000, you will probably qualify for this, believe it or not.
And, you know, I will tell you, the way I was raised and people got on me, Hannity doesn't think that we should be paying other kids student loans, even people that work for them.
Because when I went to work and I was living paycheck to paycheck, I still had to write that check to Jamaica Savings Bank for my student loan every single month.
And I never once ever thought that it was the government's responsibility.
I freely went into this decision to borrow money with the full understanding that I had an obligation to pay it back myself.
And that I committed to doing it, and I did do it.
And it took 10 years, and it was $58.05 a month, not a lot of money in today's terms.
But at that time in my life, it was a lot of money for me.
It did, you know, I was struggling to make rent every month.
And fundamentally, what we're looking at, this is their drive towards new Green Deal socialism, where you get a guaranteed government job, government wage, government health care, womb to the tomb, cradle to grave, government healthy food, free pre-K, free college.
This is all part of new Green Deal socialism.
And this is now, this is the agenda.
Nancy Pelosi herself acknowledged Joe Biden did not have the authority to do this.
Constitutionally, he does not.
We have co-equal branches of government.
This should have been the legislature that would pass legislation and the president would then sign it into law.
That didn't happen here.
And this is where we talk about this being a post-constitutional America.
This is where Joe Biden only seems to abide by the laws that he feels like abiding by.
By aiding and abetting law breaking at our border, he's assisting in lawbreaking and human trafficking.
If you did it, you would go to jail as a human trafficker.
And he's doing this because they think that they're right.
It doesn't matter what the Constitution says.
And this is a very, very dangerous precedent that they're setting here.
And I can promise you, if Donald Trump ever did this, that, you know, they'd be raising holy hell over it.
But a lot of people that worked hard to pay back their loans like you are pissed off, rightly so.
And what if you work in the trades?
What if you're a carpenter, plumber, electrician, auto mechanic?
They're now going to take your money to pay for somebody else's college.
What, we're going to rob from the poor and middle class, people that are struggling already because of inflation and high energy costs, and we're going to make them and force them to pay for other kids' college tuition.
Does that sound fair to you?
Doesn't sound very fair to me.
I sound upset.
I don't know if you can hear it, but I'm so upset because I called back earlier over the summer because I work construction.
I worked 14-hour days, get enough money so I can pay for my college.
And now I'm going to pay off my college and have to pay someone else's college because they're like, oh, it's just free.
Socialism works.
It doesn't work.
And it irritates me to the point of I shake.
My hands start shaking.
I get so mad.
I'm like, how can you be so dumb?
Paul Bagala, of all people, I can't believe I'm quoting him, actually said he was furious about this.
He said, this is a choice that people went into willingly, an agreement that they went into willingly.
He said, all of that money, and the Wharton business model says it's really going to cost us a trillion dollars.
We're now on day seven.
Not one person in the administration has been able to explain how we're going to pay for this.
And he said, it would probably, all those people that didn't have a choice that got sick, maybe they got cancer, they had a heart attack, they had a stroke, and they accumulated all of this medical debt.
Well, they didn't make a choice to get sick.
You know, maybe they could have lived a healthier lifestyle.
That's an argument for a different day.
They didn't make a choice to get sick.
That happened to them.
And those costs they incurred, they'll be paying back the rest of their lives.
All of this money would have paid everybody's medical debts off at that point.
But, you know, a trillion dollars is a trillion dollars.
It's a lot of money.
You have every right to be angry.
But I'm going to tell you something.
Turn your anger into action.
And the action I recommend is voting on election day.
Voting Republican in November.
Yeah.
And if we have a wave election, we can stop all of this.
Then we can begin the investigative process into zero experience hunter, corruption within the FBI ranks and the DOJ.
All of that can take place if we have subpoena power.
We don't have it right now.
And then the next step beyond that is we need a Republican president.
And it's too early to start talking about 2024.
We'll have plenty of time leading up to that.
But first, you know, this is not a slam dunk.
I know everybody's predicting this is going to be a wave election year.
Well, Democrats have been pretty effective at demagoguing the Dobbs decision on abortion, scaring the hell out of people, thinking, telling them abortion is illegal in America.
It's not.
The states will decide whether there are any restrictions or some restrictions.
States like New York, California, et cetera, they'll have very liberal laws.
They're lying about January 6th.
They're basically now characterizing half the country as semi-fascist.
That's all part of their plan to demonize anybody that's a conservative.
They've tried to make it, you know.
Are you or have you ever been a supporter of Donald Trump to use that as a pejorative against people that have a different belief?
I kind of like the Trump economic plan because it worked.
I like the Trump policy on energy independence.
It worked.
I like Trump's plans on the border.
It worked.
I like peace through strength and free and fair trade deals.
All of it worked.
I like the fact that he wanted to crack down on lawlessness.
I like the fact that he believed in choice in schools, all these positions.
But we're going to need the right people in office.
Elections matter, and we'll get the government ultimately we deserve.
So Americans better pay attention.
Wyatt, hang in there, buddy.
You know, fight the good fight and get out and vote.
Utah, Ellen is next on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Ellen, how are you?
Great, Sean.
You're great.
I've been a fan for years.
I just wanted to offer a little bit of a different perspective.
I've had five kids in college to have graduated.
One will soon.
And then I have two more.
They've all worked, and I've tried to help out where I can't, where I can, but you know it's expensive.
And so they've all had to take student loans, which, of course, they've planned on paying back.
But I feel like they've been a little bit unfairly vilified as, you know, lazy or not planning, excuse me, not planning on meeting their obligations or as the elite.
None of them asked for this handout from Biden.
They didn't ask for that.
But what's also not their fault is the high cost of education.
And, you know, we've seen the graphs.
Education has gone up 1,200%.
And I can't afford to pay for the cost of education for my kids.
But it's not news that we're also already paying for the cost of other people's education.
And my kids see lots of other people getting free tuition around them.
And my kids have worked hard to get scholarships, but it's just not enough.
And frankly, this $10,000 is a drop in the bucket.
That's like, that's not even two semesters to state schools.
And my kids are going to state schools.
They're not going to fancy schools or anything.
And they're going to be able to.
By the way, even that is expensive.
Yeah, they're going to end up with tens of thousands of dollars in debt anyway.
And the other point I want to make about, you know, we're probably solidly middle class.
My husband and I are both college educated, even beyond.
I have a higher degree.
And I've always tried to work part-time to help out.
I wanted to be home with my kids as well.
But we're considered probably middle class, higher middle class.
And my kids can't even qualify for loans, Sean, because they say, nope, you don't even qualify for loans, loans to pay back, subsidized loans.
So they end up with high-interest loans the second they take out these loans.
So the interest is accruing the second they take these out.
So they come out of college with high-interest loans, which are hard to pay back.
And this is just because they want to make a better life for themselves and for their future families.
And they plan on paying them back.
But it's like, I'm telling my kids, don't talk about your loans.
You know, this is a bad time to be talking about your loans.
And I don't want them to be vilified.
And, you know, I've raised them right.
There's nothing to be vilified.
They're investing in themselves.
When kids take out student loans, look, I wasn't able to afford college, and I worked my way in and out of college.
I ran out of money, and then I go back to work.
And that's, and people are, Hannity's a dropout.
I dropped out in the end.
I didn't finish because I didn't have enough money.
That's the honest truth.
And my parents begged me to take money from them that I know they didn't have.
I knew they couldn't afford it.
And I said, thank you, but no, I'm going to work.
I'll see what happens.
Then I got behind a radio microphone and my life changed.
And I study now more every day than I ever did in any school at any point, at any time of my life, which is kind of ironic.
But the point is, your kids should hold their head high.
They're trying to improve themselves.
You know, I feel sorry for kids today.
It's very, very competitive.
And life is hard.
Life is difficult.
Life is tough.
And here, they made the choice to build a better future and a foundation for a better future.
And they're to be applauded for that.
They don't need to be ashamed that they took out a student loan.
It means that they are investing in their future, in themselves, with the belief that that will enable them to get a better job, more pay, a better life for themselves, and then eventually their families down the road.
I applaud them for that.
That's the American way.
So hang in there.
Yeah.
It's the cost of education and the other things we've got on the screen.
Oh, it's crazy.
Even state schools are very expensive.
I agree.
Ellen, God bless you.
Thank you so much for your call.
You should be proud of your kids.
All right.
Let us say hi to Diet.
Let me see.
It's Dane.
Dane is in Michigan.
What's up, Dane?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
Just call about this Mar-a-Lago investigation, right?
I hear a lot of things about the back end, like the lawyers and such.
Has everybody asked the question about how did they pack the boxes?
Who packed the boxes?
Isn't there a process in place to take documents out of the White House?
I mean, I can't think that someone would run around and start grabbing things at a file cabinet and stick them in a box.
By the way, I know Donald Trump pretty well.
Yeah, someone's going to have to manage that, right?
I mean, someone's got to check that off.
It's going to be several departments.
I'm sure there's not piles of paperwork in the White House that somebody's going to start scavenging through.
There'd be a process.
And then I'd ask the question, like, if the person who packed the boxes, who is that person and who are those people?
Because I know at one time, we've all heard that the leaks that came out of the White House there for a long time, everything that Donald Trump did, hamburgers, ice cream, you name it, he got leaked out.
So wouldn't it be logical to ask?
Is there someone in there who could actually put things in that file?
That would be a problem.
I think it's so chaotic when there was so much going on at that point in time.
I guarantee you, Donald Trump didn't pack any boxes.
I guarantee you.
His family didn't pack any boxes.
And what they do is over time.
Now, I can tell you one other thing.
And I think I know Donald Trump pretty well.
I've known him even before he became president over a couple of decades.
And I can tell you, he didn't spend his time since he's been out of office going into boxes and spending days and hours and weeks reading whatever materials were in the boxes.
And that's the kind of thing that you would delegate other people to do.
And when they returned the 15 boxes that the National Archives and Records Administration wanted, I doubt he had any say whatsoever in any of that.
And they're trying to make us believe that this is the biggest thing since slice bread.
They went on media reports.
They're actually quoting the media mob as a justification to raid Mar-a-Lago.
And it's a dispute with the National Archives and Records Administration.
This is so ridiculous, but it was so broad, and it was a phishing expedition.
As I said from day one, I knew I was right, and I've been proven right again.
I wish I wasn't.
And it's sad.
God knows how long this is going to hang over our heads.
And they want this to hang over our heads, at least through the midterm elections, to create the perception that this election is about Donald Trump and that they can bludgeon Donald Trump all the way.
So we'll ignore inflation.
We'll ignore all of Biden's failures.
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