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We Are In A Recession - July 22nd, Hour 1

The Biden Administration is trying hard to change the definition of a recession by changing the metrics.  The metric that matters the most is the amount of money people have to spend... that's the pain people are feeling now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Day number 342.
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All right, we have some breaking news.
No surprise on this at all.
They didn't even put up a defense.
Steve Bannon, a verdict literally in like an hour, who was charged with contempt of Congress because he wouldn't testify before the January 6th Committee and respond to their subpoena.
They never put on a defense.
It's the first time there has been a conviction on this contempt of Congress charge since 1974.
In that case, it was G. Gordon Liddy.
Well, I got to know G. Gordon Liddy personally.
He's such a fascinating guy.
Anyway, I'm sure they will make an appeal.
I'm sure that they felt that there was no way, there was no defense that they were going to put up.
I think the ultimate goal is probably to challenge the larger issue of whether a former president, in fact, executive privilege would still hold for somebody that used to work for the president.
I think on a legal track, it's a little difficult.
Here's what's interesting to me, though.
And Steve Bannon and I have had a relationship on and off for years.
And I've always admired Steve Bannon.
Sometimes he goes a little off the rails for me, but I'm sure I go off the rails for him sometimes.
But I really kind of admire his stance here.
And this is why.
He had every opportunity, and many people did this with the January 6th committee.
If you get a subpoena, you can go in and you could plead the fifth the entire time, even if you're not guilty of anything.
You could just show up, plead the fifth 170 times because you don't want to testify.
And you can walk out free as a bird, and they can't charge you with contempt of Congress.
He knew that option was available to him.
That would be the road of least resistance.
He didn't have to give them any information that he didn't want to if he believed in principle.
Leading up to the trial, Bannon vowed to fight against the misdemeanor from hell or go medieval on these people, et cetera, et cetera.
Anyway, they ultimately opted not to put on any defense at all whatsoever.
The charges, guilty on two charges, entail between 30 days and a year in prison.
That means he'll get the year in prison, probably consecutively, if I had to guess.
That would mean nine months in prison.
So he did all of this willingly.
And so there's always a certain sense of admiration I have for people that take a stand on principle.
And that's what Bannon did here.
And it takes a lot of courage to be willing to give up your freedom on a principle that you believe in.
And anyway, it comes just days after the district judge in this case, Carl, convened a jury selection.
There's not much really to talk about here.
Throughout the trial, defense lawyers for Bannon had been frustrated by the judge overseeing the case.
The judge scuttled attempts to deploy an advice of counsel defense strategy in which Bannon would argue he was shielded from liability for defying the subpoena because he was following the advice of his lawyers.
That was shot down.
His attempts to postpone the trial due to concerns of the January 6th committee's televised hearings could poison the jury pool.
Judge also blocked Bannon's team for calling on certain prominent witnesses like Nancy Pelosi.
So he kind of was shut down on every avenue they wanted to put up a defense.
So they decided in the end, David Schoen, who's been on this program many times, was his attorney.
And I'm sure the strategy is going to be to make an appeal of some kind.
But they did this going in knowing, in fact, that this was going to happen.
I think another more, perhaps even more interesting case is going to be with Peter Navarro, who was held in contempt.
Now, the Department of Justice, you know, they made a decision, for example, not to go against Mark Meadows.
Mark Meadows had handed over some 9,000 documents or Dan Scavino was on the staff of the president.
But Peter Navarro, and the judge in the case was pretty interesting.
It was an Obama-appointed judge, said, did you really have to humiliate him and arrest him in public?
He didn't exactly say it this way.
On something like a misdemeanor, because we're really talking about a misdemeanor here.
This is not a felony.
On a misdemeanor, you couldn't just ask the guy to report because it shows an aggressiveness that is so over the top.
Just like, you know, Paul Manafort, a process crime, Roger Stone, process crimes.
And then you get pre-dawn raids, guns drawn, fake news, CNN cameras in the case of Roger Stone.
I talked to Manafort.
He was on this very program talking about it.
His time that he spent in prison, they put him in solitary confinement for nine months and regularly offered him an opportunity to get out if he would say what they wanted him to say.
In other words, tell us what we want to hear and we'll let you out today.
Now, that is a pretty strong incentive for people to say whatever they want to hear.
You know, it brings, I use the extreme example of Sammy the Bull Gravano, guy that had killed, what, 19, 20 people, some astronomical number.
And he ended up in the witness protection program because he was willing to testify against mob boss John Gotti Sr.
And so here's a guy that killed all these people.
Now you get, you know, a house in Arizona and the witness protection program and a new identity and a new life, and you don't have to pay the price for 19 murders.
If a guy's a murderer, he's probably not honest and truthful.
He's probably a liar and probably willing to say whatever they needed him to say to get the guy that they really wanted to get.
In that case, it was John Gotti, who died in jail.
So I don't like the whole system where they offer a benefit.
Anyway, Matafort's writing it in his book.
That book's going to get very interesting.
And I remember asking when he was on the show, I remember asking him, you know, how did the prisoners treat you?
And they said they couldn't have been nicer to me.
They all knew who I was.
And they all knew that I was being offered a deal.
Everybody's pretty smart and pretty savvy in prison.
They know the system.
And they know that I was there and I could get out, but I wouldn't say things that weren't true.
And in that sense, there's a certain code in prison.
Wow, that's, you know, you're a stand-up guy.
Now, if you go to prison and you're deemed as a rat, things usually don't go well for prisoners that are deemed rats or prisoners that hurt children in particular.
So understand, Bannon, what he did here was he stood on his principle knowing the consequences, and he had a very easy out if he wanted it.
He chose not to take it.
You got to give the guy credit for standing on his principle here.
Whether you agree with Bannon, don't agree with Bannon, whatever he did or didn't do, I have no idea during this whole January 6th thing.
They played his tapes last night.
I would imagine them playing tapes last night while the jury is about to decide in his case probably would be pretty good grounds for an appeal.
But David Schoen is a smart attorney.
I'm sure that he's going to look down every venue.
Later on, Lee Zeldon is going to join us.
Now, I got to tell you something.
This broke Duran Hannity last night on the TV show.
And Lee Zeldon was up near Rochester, New York last night.
He is, and it's so funny because I tweeted out a new ad that he had done.
We'll play some of it later.
And it's about crime.
And it mentions Jose Alba, the bodega worker, who was charged with second-degree murder when this guy came behind the counter and attacked him and pushed him into a wall and pushed him down on the ground and was bigger and stronger and younger.
And he got up and in self-defense defended himself.
The guy's girlfriend had a knife.
Anyway, so why he got charged with second-degree murder, I don't know.
I think the public outcry caused the DA Bragg to pull back on it.
Either way, it was the right decision.
And I'm looking at photos.
This guy, I don't know, some people call it a tiger claw, ladyclaw, whatever you want to call it, but it's a knife-like object.
And there's one picture in particular we'll show you on TV tonight.
I mean, he could have gotten killed last night.
Now, it turns out that in New York, now think about this.
This guy, Jose Alba, the bodega worker, gets sent to Rikers Island, one of the worst prisons in the country.
He gets charged with second-degree murder in a clear self-defense case.
Here's a guy trying to assassinate a public figure, a congressman who's now a gubernatorial candidate.
He's running for governor.
And he was not charged with attempted murder of a public official or attempting to kill a public official.
He was not charged with assault with a deadly weapon.
He was charged with second-degree attempted assault.
Yeah, that was more than an attempt.
It was an assault.
Anyway, then it was second-degree attempted assault, not even first-degree attempted assault.
And it gets worse because now the would-be assassin, when you look at the video, the picture I have in front of me, this guy has this weapon in his right hand, and Lee Zeldon grabs his wrist, which actually was a good move.
I wish he would have used his left hand as a martial artist and protected his body a little more.
But that's neither here nor there because his heart is wide open and his carotid artery is wide open.
If this guy is able to thrust this thing into his neck or his heart, so this is this could have murdered Lee Zeldon.
And anyway, but now the guy is free as a bird because he was released on his own recognizance.
Can you believe that?
Now we also find out that the governor of New York, Hochul, the one that replaced Andrew Cuomo, sent out an email about all of Lee Zeldon's campaign events.
The email, you know, talked about the dates, the times, the events, where they were, when they're scheduled to begin.
On Thursday, July 21st, Big Lie Lee.
Is that supposed to be funny?
Anyway, his entourage of extremists kick off a statewide MAGA Republican bus tour.
They're running the same campaign McCullough ran down in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
It didn't work out well for them, which will make stops across the state peddling dangerous lies, misinformation, and his far-right agenda.
And at stops during the tour, Zeldon will be joined by anti-abortion advocates, NRA enthusiasts.
I mean, it's just a typical Democratic campaign.
But the latest poll that I saw was like within the margin of error.
I mean, to think that we could have won the New Jersey gubernatorial race if we paid more attention to it.
I didn't think they had a shot.
If I would have known ahead of time, we would have really dug in deep and gone hard there.
And I regret not doing it.
So that means, do I think Lee Zeldon can win this race?
I do.
And now even today, I am told Hochul and her little minions are still doxing Lee Zeldon after what really could accurately be described as an assassination attempt.
I mean, it's pretty unbelievable.
So it's pretty bizarre that they wouldn't even give it a day off here.
Politico has an article out.
The New York GOP chairperson is accusing Kathy Hochul of fanning the flames before the attempt on his life.
Congressman Zeldin and all the attendees are safe, but this could have ended much worse.
The chairperson is Nick Langworthy, and he said it's not a coincidence that just hours earlier, Kathy Hochl fanned the flames of hate by directing her supporters to his rally schedule.
This is unacceptable conduct for anyone, let alone a sitting governor.
It is a fairly common practice that you have people, you know, follow campaigns, but they usually do it more discreetly because they want to tape people in case they say something that they can use in a campaign ad.
But apparently, even today, Kathy Hochl has these big vans following Lee Zeldon wherever he goes.
Just like, you know, the doxing of Supreme Court justices.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean on this Friday.
We got a lot of news.
Not a lot of good economic news, but wait till you hear what the Democrats are trying to spin out of.
think we're going to have by definition a recession and they're scared to death of course there's not equal justice under the law We've been saying it regularly now forever, and there's no equal application of our laws.
I remember a guy, Linda, correct me if I'm wrong.
I remember a man by the name of Eric Holder.
Wasn't he held in contempt of Congress because he wouldn't do the same thing Bannon was accused of here?
I remember that.
I think I heard of that guy once or twice.
I was just listening, David Schoen, who's been on this program many times.
He's a really good attorney, friend of the program.
He made a good point about separation of powers because what the prosecution apparently argued today in court, and I didn't know until he said so, is as it relates to executive privilege, that it is Congress that will decide and not the courts that will decide.
Because remember, you have separation of powers, co-equal branches of government, et cetera, et cetera.
And the idea that if a president invokes it and you want to question it, then it would be up to the courts, not up to Congress.
And they actually argued that Congress has the ability to make that decision.
You know, when you consider that Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress and nothing happens to them, it's just the latest, greatest example of the system of justice that we have.
And that is, we don't have equal justice under the law.
We don't have equal application of our laws.
And, you know, and this is the thing that's so interesting to me about this case.
Bannon clearly was thinking, was playing chess the whole time, knowing that he was willing to accept consequences at the end of the process, whenever we get to the end of the process, because the process isn't over today.
Remember, they didn't even put on a defense here.
So this was not a verdict that was unexpected.
And they let this play out right in the middle of the hearings.
And in many ways, the January 6th committee last night, even playing Bannon, you can make an argument that it could have tainted the jury pool.
And I think a very effective one.
But I think that the bigger constitutional issue was the one that David Schoen just spelled out, which is, you know, if we have separation of powers and one invokes executive privilege, as Bannon did in this particular case, that it would not be Congress's decision whether or not it can be invoked or not.
That would be up to the courts to decide.
And I think that's a case that the Supreme Court should ultimately decide somewhere down the road.
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And standing up for liberty every day.
All right, 25 now to the top of the hour, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program here.
You know, what's interesting is with this Bannon verdict today, which we all knew was coming because they didn't put on a defense, and I think they didn't do so purposely, especially based on David Schoen's comments, who's Bannon's attorney when they came out today.
But, you know, when the Democrats, when Eric Holder was held in contempt, and when that contempt vote happened, they walked out.
You might remember.
They called it, what do they call it, Linda?
Skunkivity or something?
Skunktivity.
Okay.
Do you know what that means?
Stinks to high heaven, I'm assuming.
Congressman Clyburn said it was evil to use such a serious process for political aims and speak.
By the way, same gay.
When they go low, kick them.
Another one advocating violence.
Anyway, and Nancy Pelosi, et cetera, et cetera.
Just people forget it.
Don't we have a tape of this?
I think we do have a tax.
Yeah, we do.
We did not want to participate in something that we believe to have some kind of smell to it.
And we are declaring by walking out that we're not participating in this conctivity.
We're here to say today that we believe that there's something evil about using the procedures of the House, especially something as severe as holding someone in contempt of Congress to further political aims.
This is not about race.
It is not about caucus.
It is, however, about confrontation over cooperation, about confrontation over consensus.
And it is the pattern that this Republican leadership has followed since they first were sworn into power.
All right.
So this, you can see double stance.
This has not happened since G. Gordon Liddy in 1974.
I think knowing David Sean as well as we know him, Linda, wouldn't you say that this was all by design?
They didn't put on a defense because they were stymied every which way they planned on going.
So they figured, all right, we'll just give up here and we'll go to the next court.
That's what I figured they did.
Yeah, I think that, you know, Sean has a lot of experience, especially as going through the trial or for the president and appearing before Congress and giving testimony.
And I think he saw the writing on the wall.
I don't think this is the end of the story, but I do believe that this was definitely strategic.
Yeah, as it was for Bannon, too.
And knowing the risks, by the way, I mean, which a lot of people make.
On the economic side, we've got news out today, and we keep looking to the Atlanta Fed.
They have a pretty good track record of being dead on accurate.
They have their new GDP now model.
Their estimate for real GDP growth in the second quarter is minus 1.6%, which would be on top of last quarter's minus 1.6%.
Now, here's what's interesting, though.
Instead of with this expectation of GDP numbers next week, Biden officials now are desperately trying to change the definition of what a recession is.
Instead, they want business reporters to take a holistic look at the data.
None of it's good.
All right.
So Biden's White House economists are signaling that even they expect next week's GDP economic growth to be in the negative area, which would mean that means we are officially in a recession.
I mean, the bottom line is, if you're an economist, you look for two consecutive quarters of decline in GDP, and by definition, that is a recession.
The White House Council of Economic Advisors, however, is opposing this definition now in a new blog.
Just like they said, oh, inflation is transitory, not so transitory.
So they don't want to even live up to or own the reality that their policies have caused a recession.
We are in a recession.
If we come in at 0.1% growth, I don't care what that says.
We're still in a recession.
And people better act accordingly.
But now they want to change the definition and they're doing damage control ahead of what they expect to be bad numbers and they're trying to fight it off and they're trying to change the definition of what a recession is.
And they're asking the media mob to take a holistic look at the data and take into account the labor market, consumer and business spending.
Okay, but this is the problem, industrial production and earnings.
They're taking all of that into account.
And the bottom line is the numbers speak for themselves.
Washington Post has a point piece out today.
The labor market until now, a pillar of economic resilience is now beginning to show cracks in it.
This is what Lawrence Summers had been saying, and he worked under Obama, that we're going to have a dramatic increase in unemployment, and it's going to be necessary if you want to ward off the record high inflation caused by Biden's economic and energy policies.
There was another article, Vice put it out.com, about the rich rush to offload their luxury properties.
After a decade of feeling invincible, the tech industry is now suddenly facing something new.
Financial insecurity, valuations are down, layoffs are down, startup funding.
I'm like, this is all stuff that I've been telling you about.
Then the article goes in to say there are signs that the housing market may have peaked.
Asking prices have slipped ever so slightly.
Homebuilders are now starting to work on fewer home.
Mortgage demand is the lowest it's been since 2000.
What have I told you is the next thing to be hit?
Linda, how far ahead of the curve are we on all of this?
I said the house.
Really far.
I mean, it's really, how many months before the recession was I tell where I was telling people you might want to reduce.
You started at Christmas.
I mean, we started over a year ago.
I mean, you were just telling people the writing is on the wall.
It's not going to be a good year.
Please, you know, watch what you're doing with your funds.
Talk to your financial advisors and keep your money.
Yeah.
And reduce the risk that you have in the stock market.
Reduce your vulnerability to the stock market.
And by the way, for some people, including myself, that doesn't mean you take out your retirement money or your IRA or your 401k.
But if you have other money, you know, you're reducing your exposure.
And by the way, now treasuries are going up to 3% for six months or a year.
You know, at least there's some money that you can get back, which we haven't been able to get for years.
So there is a place to park your money that's not awful.
But I'm telling you what's going to happen when the housing market gets hit.
It's already happening.
And that is new home construction will come to a screeching halt because there will be no demand with higher interest rates for new home construction.
And that then will impact the sale of pre-existing homes.
Nobody's going to want to give up their 2.8% 30-year mortgage or 3.8% 30-year mortgage in exchange for a 7% or 8% 30-year mortgage because that's thousands of dollars more per month that they'd be paying.
So that's going to come to a screeching halt.
And the next thing that's going to happen is home valuations are going to drop precipitously.
That's why I keep saying go to AmericanFinancing.net because right now, probably your home is valued at the top of the market or close to it, and it's about to come down.
And it might be the perfect time to do debt consolidation, refinancing your mortgage, getting a lower rate, consolidating your debt, all of these things.
Business Insider, another side, they're talking about the fact that the U.S. housing market, quote, is about to enter a deep freeze.
How many weeks have I been saying this?
I've been telling everybody I know for like months this is coming.
You know, I've been telling my kids, I've been sending them articles, telling them all this.
My son writes me back today, goes, man, this article is exactly what you sent me, which said was going to happen eight months ago.
I said, yep.
Anyway, now finally, kids listen.
Takes a long time.
They got to get really old for them to start listening.
Anyway, data showing a drop in existing home sales to a two-year low.
We have the lowest rate of loan applications since 2000 right now.
I mean, that's how bad that is.
The National Association of Realtors reporting seasonally adjusted sales hit a rate of $5.12 million last month, the lowest since June of 2020 at the height of COVID and well below what their expectations were.
And makes sense with higher mortgage rates conflating with higher home prices.
Those home prices are going to come down.
Your values will come down.
By the way, not a reason to panic unless you were planning on moving anytime soon.
You might still have time to get that home sold at a decent price while mortgage rates are creeping up.
They're not where they're going to be.
So there might be some demand out there, but certainly it's not going to be like it was last year where if you put a home on the market in Florida, there were 20 people at your door within an hour, and you had, you know, 18 of them offering above asking price.
That's all dead.
That's done.
Pelosi says her husband never made stock purchases based on information she gave him.
You know what?
That ends that.
Why would we bother to investigate?
There's no need.
We don't need to investigate.
Just trust Nancy.
Believe everything Nancy says.
Oh, one other thing on, and this was in the New York Post today, high prices, rate signs of housing slowdown.
Existing home sales compared to last year, 15% down.
Average selling price up, but that's going to go down as interest rates continue to go up.
Housing, this was on FoxNews.com.
The Fed lacks the necessary tools to address the root housing inflation problem.
They quote Steve Moore in this article in what is a pretty alarming development, shelter costs, which account for one-third of the consumer price index.
They sped up again in June, climbing 0.6%.
That's an 18-year high that was first set in May.
On an annual basis, shelter costs have clined 5.6%.
That's the fastest since February of 1991.
Rent costs are surging also 0.8%.
That's the largest monthly increase since April of 86.
And now many people will be in the rental market that would otherwise maybe be out buying their first home or maybe moving into a newer home, a bigger home, maybe a smaller home, downsizing, upsizing, whatever it happens to be, whatever point in your life you have to be, that you happen to be at.
That's a big development because higher housing costs, whether it's rent or mortgage, most directly and acutely impacts household budgets.
Another data point measures how much homeowners would pay in the equivalent of rent had they not bought their home.
That also jumped 0.7%.
So the housing market exploded during the early days of COVID and buoyed by record low interest rates.
In the same time, American homeowners were more flush with cash from the government.
So all, you know, these are the chickens coming home to roost.
So, you know, my advice for everybody, and I just have, I don't know.
I think I was traumatized in my life because I can't get it out of my brain the thinking that I developed when I live paycheck to paycheck.
You know, that's why I made such a big deal over the cost of a chicken the other day that my sister, who happened to have sold her home and her new home isn't ready, anyway, has been living with me and she was very nicely.
She decided to cook dinner one night.
She makes a chicken.
I'm looking at the chicken price, uncooked, 18, well, no, it's no 20 bucks.
And at that same store, they used to sell rotisserie chicken that was really good for six bucks for a whole chicken.
And I used to, I know, because I used to buy it and eat it.
I'm a paleo guy.
And then, of course, now we continue with the Green New Deal nonsense.
And then, of course, our slogan of the week by Mayor Pothole Pete, which is.
Of course, the more pain we are all experiencing from paying the price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can't electric vehicles.
And then we're transitioning.
We're in the middle of a transition to renewables that they don't even have enough renewables.
Renewables of what?
Wind, solar, air, none of the, we don't have the technology.
We don't have the ability to store most of that energy.
What happens when it stops being windy for months and months because of climate change?
What happens if the sun doesn't shine for a few months or a few weeks?
What's going to happen then?
The bottom line is they're not making any transition to anything in the near future, defined as the next decade to two decades.
So they can work on it all they want, but it's not the reality.
And in the meantime, they have cut off the smart play, which is in the short term, be the masters of our own destiny, not rely on countries that hate us like Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and OPEC countries, and produce it cheaper, faster, and cleaner here in America.
And if we were really, really smart and we really, really wanted to help Americans get rich and help make America rich again, we would sell all of that natural gas.
We have hundreds of years of supplies that are known right now, and we would supply Western Europe.
It would bankrupt Putin and Russia, and it would be in our best national security interests to have our allies in Europe get their energy supplies from us, and it would be more stable for all of them.
It's just basic, simple, common sense, which isn't so common anymore.
That's why Joe is at a 31% approval rating.
And that's why things are not going to get better.
You know, it's, it's, it's, all of this is preventable.
This is the sad thing to me.
We didn't have, we didn't have to give up energy independence.
They did it on purpose, Joe promised.
No more.
I'm going to eliminate it.
Get rid of it.
Look at my eyes, kid.
No more.
You're not eliminating it.
You're just importing it from people that hate us.
You just stop producing it domestically.
Everybody says all week, the word of the week, we're transitioning, transitioning, transitioning, transitioning.
We're transitioning into technology that they don't have.
They have a big problem out in Southern and California.
They don't know what to do with old solar panels because guess what?
They can't get rid of them in a way that's environmentally safe.
What a shocker.
They didn't think through that.
Indoor mask rules expected next week in Los Angeles.
Get back to the old indoor mask rules.
Here we go again.
It's pretty crazy.
All right, when we come back, Lee Zeldon, there was really an assassination attempt against him last night in New York near Rochester.
Wait, do you see the video?
We'll show you tonight on Hannity.
We got a copy of the video.
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Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down at Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
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