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July 22, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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Uvalde and Biden Controversy - July 21st, Hour 2
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Finally, people are reacting to the outright lying and disinformation of the administration and the suggestion that the border is secure when everybody knows damn well that it's not secure.
Your DHS Homeland Security Secretary, Alejandro Mayorkas, said, oh, the border is secure, but there's work to be done.
No, the border's not secure.
The border is wide open.
You know, they have story after story in New York today.
And by the way, the Border Patrol, multiple Border Patrol agents are pushing back against this statement of Mayorkas and his claim, you know, agents on the front lines of what is the worst migrant crisis in history and how they're struggling to cope with the overwhelming numbers facing them.
More than 207,000 migrant encounters in June alone, 235,000 in May, which is a record.
But anyway, Mayorkas is saying something that is just false.
This is on the heels of D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser, you know, upset over the fact that Governor Abbott and others are sending these illegal immigrants to Washington, D.C., considering Joe's the one that's aiding and abetting in the lawbreaking.
Let Washington, D.C. take care of it.
Let Delaware take care of it.
That's where Ron DeSantis is sending illegal immigrants in Florida.
Anyway, so they're now literally overwhelming the homeless shelters in New York.
They have no local ties whatsoever.
All of them assisted by the Biden administration and dumped on these cities.
And now the administration, we have a report out today with record high apprehensions.
They're hiding data on the number of illegal immigrants that are dying trying to make this long, treacherous journey, encouraged by the fact that Joe Biden is letting everybody in.
Anyway, here's Mayorkas lying to the American people.
Is the border safe?
Now I was watching a news channel and they were talking about an invasion was happening and I got a little concerned.
Look.
The border is secure.
The border, we are working to make the border more secure.
That has been a historic challenge.
I have said to a number of legislators who expressed to me that we need to address the challenge at the border before they pass legislation.
And I take issue with the math of holding the solution hostage until the problem is resolved.
There is work to be done.
Safe and secure are two different words.
There are smugglers that operate on the Mexican side of the border, and placing one's life in their hands is not safe.
Oh, then why are you processing and releasing?
Why did you stop the stay of Mexico policy?
Why did you stop building the border wall?
Why aren't you enforcing the laws of the land?
Because if anybody listening to this program right now was doing exactly what Maorcas and Biden are doing, and that is aiding and abetting people entering the country illegally, they would be arrested for aiding and abetting and assisting in crime.
And B, they'd be arrested and charged with human trafficking.
And maybe even worse.
Who knows?
Anyway, Mark Morgan is with us.
He was the former acting CBP commissioner, Heritage Visiting Fellow.
And anyway, he has some breaky news on what happened in Uvalde and the culpability of the Biden administration.
And the border crisis, he is arguing, is playing a contributing role in terms of law enforcement and resources being available for other things.
But anyway, Mark Morgan joins us now.
How are you?
Yeah, Sean, I'm doing great.
And I'll tell you what, I was listening to you and making notes of what you're just saying.
And you'll listen to understand everything you just said, Sean.
I could not have said better myself.
You are spot on on every single word, including this secretary is a blatant liar.
This man should be impeached.
And I thought he is actually a danger to this country, Sean.
Well, I mean, he's just flat out lying.
And, you know, all the Democrats, all the media, they say, well, Donald Trump didn't tell the truth about this and didn't tell the truth about that.
It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat.
You can just say anything you want to say.
But the reality is, and let me be very clear, Mark, I support immigration.
I support legal immigration.
And I think there ought to be certain criteria that we have to protect our country.
If you get one of the coveted positions to come into our country and we invite you in and you can prove that you don't have radical ties or associations in the middle of a pandemic, I think that should require a health check as well.
I think you have to means test people.
They've got to be able to provide for themselves when they get here so they are not a burden on the American taxpayer, which really, we frankly can't afford all of this.
And then basically, if you meet that criteria, you go through the legal process, then I don't care where you come from.
Welcome to America.
But it's got to be legal.
This is all illegal activity.
That's exactly right.
No, dude, I agree.
But I'll go a step further.
And this is part of the false narrative of this administration, open border advocates.
The truth is, this is why we say this is about border security.
Because when illegal immigration goes up and skyrockets to the highest it's ever been in our lifetime, our ability to secure borders go down.
We know 80, 90% of border tour resources are pulled off the line and relegated to do administrative duties, hospital watch, security, and processing.
That literally hands operational control of the large areas of border over the cartels, and they're exploiting that every single day.
You know, we've talked about the drugs pouring into this country, killing more Americans than at any other time.
We've talked about the 900,000 known gotaways.
Among them are murders, rapists, pedophiles, and gang members.
And then we just learned with the Uvalde shooting, another way that open border manifests itself into these second, third order negative impacts is that in a three and a half month period, Uvalde, they had over 50 bailouts.
And those are vehicle pursuits that smugglers either intentionally or inadvertently crash.
And everybody that's in the vehicle, they bail out.
They jump out and they run.
And so they had false alerts 50 times, 5-0 in three and a half months.
And the report actually said that that in itself led to a lack of due diligence with respect to security alerts for loud.
I mean, I might, for the first time that I can think of that you've been a guest on this program, might have a disagreement with you.
What's frustrating to me is you've got, you know, all of these officers standing around for an hour.
You have an active shooter situation.
And I'm friends with so many people in law enforcement, and I mean really good friends with them.
And these, that is the moment that they've been training for their entire lives and career.
This is what they do in moments of crisis.
In this particular case, you got an active shooter in a classroom, and here you've got these guys, a lot of them, all just standing around.
You know, regardless of what resources might have been stretched in prior to this event, I just can't come up with any rational explanation for why they didn't break down that door, get in that classroom, and try to save those kids.
Well, so I'm not sure we're totally disagreeing.
What I was talking about is contributing factors.
And here's what we have to do is there are a lot of contributing factors.
What I think, because what we saw on video is we're really singularly focused on just the law enforcement response.
But I think this is a complex, complicated issue.
I mean, we know that there was leakage of this individual.
We know there were warning signs ignored.
We know about the mental health issues.
What about social media and what they should have done?
What about the accountability response of the parents?
You know, what about the fact that they should have had a better fence?
What about that the doors weren't locked properly?
I mean, we could go on and on about all the contributive factors.
And we should look at all those, including response by law enforcement.
But let's keep in mind, law enforcement made entry in less than three minutes.
That was unbelievably, incredibly well done there.
The issue is then it slowed down.
Why?
Why did they transition from an active shooter to a barricaded subject?
Now, he actually did barricade himself in, but there's a lot of questions we don't know.
There's a lot of miscommunication.
I needed to know the on-seek commander, what did he know and when?
And how did he effectively communicate that to the individuals that were there?
I mean, there's still, even though this report answers some questions, there's still a lot of questions unanswered.
I hope what we don't is don't we don't singularly vilify one individual or one group.
Let's get the facts and let's do this in a way to get better.
Mark, you know this.
I mean, I'm always the guy that is supportive of law enforcement and law and order and safety and security and the police, et cetera.
But there are occasions when, for whatever reason, I cannot fathom why they did not race into that classroom.
I just can't get there.
If you can get me there, try.
Please help me.
Maybe I'm missing something.
But I'm watching the time fly by.
You got an active shooter and you got kids in the classroom trapped.
Now, to me, that's a no-brainer.
You bang down the door and you go in, guns blazing, and you take out the shooter.
So it's, Sean, it's not that simple.
Look, I've been a SWOT operator.
I was one for many years.
I've been involved in just countless tactical situations.
And look, the alert training, the active shooter training, I know it well.
Part of the training, it actually says if there's a change in circumstances, i.e., shots have stopped firing and the subject barricades himself, you're supposed to slow down and reevaluate.
That's exactly what happened initially.
For an hour?
No, no, hold on.
Just give me two minutes, Sean.
Go with me just for a second here.
Not an hour.
The question is, is that he was barricaded.
Those doors are reinforced locked.
Remember, the police approached the door.
They were shot out through the door.
Now, the issue is, right then, they want to reassess because part of the issue I would be immediately, if I was thinking, is, well, what if there are kids on the other side still alive?
What if he has a kid that he's holding?
And because this has happened before and you break entry without the right resources there, then he could go ahead and shoot the remaining individuals that are there.
I don't even know if the officers immediately respond, knew that there were kids on the other side.
There's a lot of still we don't know.
Now, the real question is the hour.
There was clearly a breakdown in the communication.
But again, there are still a lot of unanswered questions that we have going forward that we need to have addressed.
I said, I want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
I believe in people being innocent before being proven guilty.
I don't believe in rushing to judgment.
I'm just, for the life of me, though, I look at that tape and I'm like, time is wasting.
And, you know, if they needed to make a decision, that decision, to me, could have been made much faster, much quicker.
And would it be risky?
Yeah, but it's risky leaving a classroom full of kids with an active shooter.
So at some point, you know, I'm just not exactly sure.
We'll see as the evidence comes out, but it's going to take a lot of convincing for me to justify that period of time where nothing was happening and they're just standing around.
Yeah, so the question is, like one question I have is those initial officers for a certain period of time, did they know that there were kids inside the classroom?
Do we know that for sure?
Well, we know that there are parents outside telling them that there were kids in the classroom because their kids were communicating with their parents.
But there were parents that had kids all throughout that school.
The question is that specific area where the shooter was.
I mean, those are the type of questions.
But parents, remember, they showed up and they said, my daughter is in the classroom with this guy.
So they ascertain that pretty quickly.
Well, I don't know about the timeline, but the question is, was that communicated to the incident command?
And then was that communicated to the officers on site?
Those are the kind of questions.
So we, I mean, we need to attack the process, and we need to find out exactly what happened before we start vilifying individual officers.
Look, Sean, I'm not here trying to defend anybody.
I'm trying to defend the process.
And what we've seen time and time again, I'm not saying you're doing this.
You're asking questions, but let's not go from speculation to condemnation until we get all the facts.
There are clearly issues here.
There are things that did not go right that must not happen again.
But before we vilify folks, let's make sure that we've got the complete set of facts.
That's all I'm saying.
Quick break, more with Mark Morgan, former acting CBP commissioner and Heritage Visiting Fellow.
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All right, we continue our discussion about Ubalde with Mark Morgan, former acting CBP commissioner, heritage visiting fellow.
I'm just trying to put myself in the mindset knowing that there are kids in that school, knowing there's an active shooter, knowing that this long, protracted period of time is going on, and they're virtually doing nothing.
And somebody's going to have to come up with a very good explanation for that heretofore that's not been forthcoming from the police.
And if anything, you know, I think initially they said that they had reacted very quickly.
We were lied to from the get-go.
That bothers me also by representatives of the department.
I don't know specifically who, but look, I hope you're right.
I hope there's a real rational explanation for why they did what they did or did what they didn't do.
But I don't see it.
We should be asking these questions.
And again, we need answers.
What I'm saying is we don't have the complete answers.
This is what I know, though, in my heart of hearts, because I've been there.
These officers did not wake up in the morning and going, hey, look, I'm just going to stand around and not do my job.
No, I don't think their intention was to do anything but what officers do.
I just have never seen a case like this.
And knowing that people are trained specifically, this department was trained specifically not long prior to this incident for these particular situations.
And if there's a breach like this, they go in.
That is usually a standard protocol with all the proper equipment to protect themselves as best as possible.
It's still risky.
But anyway, Mark, we have to let you go.
We always appreciate you being on the program.
Thank you.
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We'll get to your calls here in a second.
I got to run two issues by Linda, though, ahead of time.
I bet you didn't hear there's a Michigan woman.
She's suing a man for $10,000.
Do you know why?
I do not.
He failed to show up for a date.
She's claiming he deliberately and intentionally hurt her and then got into a furious screaming match with a judge over Zoom.
She's suing the guy for $10,000 because he didn't show up for the date, stood her up.
But she didn't show up for court.
She did it over Zoom.
He should sue her for bringing it to the court.
All right.
So she's suing for intentional infliction of emotional distress in the court of Judge Herman Maribald Jr., according to TMZ.
The suit was filed back in 2020, and she says he didn't show up, left on her mother's birthday, and her mom had just passed away, claiming he had intentionally, deliberately hurt her by doing so.
Anyway, the Zoom court hearing quickly went off the rails when she began yelling at the judge and refusing to answer the judge's questions.
Maybe that's why the guy didn't show up.
He didn't want to get yelled at.
I'm just guessing.
I mean, it's probably a good reason why she's single.
There seems to be a lot of information.
How do you sue somebody for not showing up for a date?
I mean, how long did it take her to get ready?
I mean, listen, if she bought a new outfit, right?
That's her problem.
Some new makeup.
You know what?
She should be thanking her lucky stars that she found out now and not later that this guy was a creep.
I have a girlfriend.
I have a girlfriend.
This is a terrible story.
And she just said this to me last week.
She said that she was talking to this guy, and they had talked like, I don't know, for like a few weeks, and they finally decide they're going to go out.
Okay, fine.
So they go out.
They go to this four-star restaurant.
She's dressed up.
He's dressed up.
Great conversation.
He's telling her about his job.
Well, the usual first aid stuff.
Okay, fine.
So then he gets up, go in the bathroom.
I'll be right back.
Never comes back.
Stiffs her with a bill.
Doesn't come back to the table.
She never hears from him again.
Changes the number.
Total scam.
And clearly, this is like a thing.
Look, some of these guys are just jackasses.
I mean, if you're going to break a date, have the decency to call or text and say, sorry, I'm just not going to be able to make it.
That's not how it works.
Everybody ghosts everybody now.
It's like, I don't want to deal with it.
I'm not, you know, I'm not a girl.
Look, I'm old-fashioned.
I think that's disrespectful.
It is disrespectful.
It's not $10,000 worth, but it's not.
It's not something you sue over.
No.
Listen, we live in a very strange time where people are suing for all kinds of stupid stuff.
It happens every single day.
You know, there's a reason why insurance is so high because people are out of their minds.
They're sue happy.
It's been going on for 20 years.
I do, however, think she's probably a little off.
I don't know her.
I didn't see the story.
But when you go into a courtroom, you're supposed to be respectful to the judge.
And I think if you start screaming at the judge, odds are you're going to lose.
Probably never should have been in the room in the first place.
To me, I think she's probably lucky in the same way.
Lucky for what?
He's lucky.
He probably talked to her one time.
He was like, I can't go there.
She's insane.
Whatever.
So he decided not to go.
I mean, but I think the fact that he was rude and didn't call her, he should have at least called her.
That would have been the nice, respectful thing to do.
He doesn't have to go out on a date with somebody, but it would have been respectful, but it's not mandatory.
What'd she say to the judge?
And then she started yelling at the judge.
What'd she say to her?
I got one more issue to throw at you.
I think Dave Chappelle is funny as hell.
Agreed.
I think, you know, you do know the guys that I like.
I've like Foxworthy and Larry the Cable guy.
They're all buddies of ours.
And I love Chris Rock, and I love Dave Chappelle.
I think these guys are so funny.
And I think one of the things that makes them funny is there's no holds barred.
They say anything.
And the point is, so now he was supposed to give a show Wednesday night last night in Minneapolis.
Then at the last minute, they moved from one venue to another venue, from a First Avenue venue to the varsity theater.
The First Avenue venue cited a backlash to the comedian's appearance as the reason for their abrupt cancellation.
And they put out a statement.
They said, we hear you.
We're sorry.
We know we must hold ourselves to the highest standards.
We know we let you down.
We're not just a black box with people in it.
We understand that First Avenue is not just a room, but meaningful beyond our walls added the theater in a message directed to staff, artists, and our community.
The First Avenue team and you have worked hard to make our venues the safest places, I'm sorry, safest spaces in the country, and we will continue with that mission.
We believe in diverse voices and the freedom of artistic expression, but in honoring that, we lost sight of the impact this would have.
We know there are some who will not agree with this decision, and we welcome you to send feedback.
Now, excuse me, everybody knows Dave Chappelle is irreverent, iconoclastic, funny.
And if you don't want to go to a comedy show, comedians should have total free, fair game.
They should go after everything and everybody.
I do not understand why if you don't like a comedian, you don't have to buy the ticket.
You don't have to show.
Nobody's forcing you to go to the theater.
You know, the idea we hear you, we're starting and the biggest lie in this statement is that they support freedom of artistic expression.
No, they don't because they gave in to the woke mob and they canceled Dave Chappelle.
Thankfully, he was able to get another venue, and I guess everything went fine.
I didn't hear otherwise.
And he did his thing.
He did his routine.
You know, he did this whole Netflix.
You know, he's been doing this Netflix series and he did a whole thing about, I don't hate trans people.
I do jokes.
That's what he does.
And he's not allowed to make a joke about this topic or that topic.
You know, at some point, it gets so restrictive, we might as well put tape around the comedian's mouth and tell him to shut up and not say anything.
Then we won't laugh at all anymore.
When did we lose the ability to laugh at ourselves?
And if you're that offended by words, you don't have to go.
You don't have to watch the TV show.
You don't have to listen to the radio, except if it's my show, three hours a day every day is all I ask.
One hour TV at night is not too much to ask among friends.
But in all seriousness here, what happened to the liberals want freedom of choice?
Okay, don't take my choice away because I think he's funny.
He makes me laugh.
Yes, he's irreverent as hell.
And I've said this before.
You know what?
Comedians have attacked me on stage.
Bill Maher has attacked me over the years many times.
I don't care what Bill Maher says about me.
I hope it's funny.
Just make it funny.
I'm Irish.
You want to say, oh, an Irish seven course meal is a six pack and a potato.
I don't care.
I'm not offended.
I'm not going to feign this indignation and outrage, sort of like the media mob with Donald Trump.
Oh, the vapors, Donald Trump.
He said, we're the enemy of the people.
This is dangerous.
Oh, my gosh.
I used to look at stuff on Twitter, memes the people very creatively put together, just mocking me, making fun of me.
And I'd often laugh at it.
It's funny.
These people are, they need to get a life, but they're funny.
Some of them are funny.
Katie and I were talking about it today because I was obviously reading the news on it and watching the updates on it.
And the one thing that, you know, I said was, so the argument they're making is that they work there.
So they are forced to, you know, hear this and it's offensive to them and this, that, and the other thing.
But the problem is.
Go get another job.
No, not even that.
Not even that.
First of all, you're supposed to be accepting of people's artistic expression, whatever that happens to be.
And people are allowed to like and dislike whatever they want.
But you work for an establishment that's going to have all sorts of artists on the stage, people you like, people you don't like.
That's just part of your job.
I mean, when you work somewhere, you don't get to dictate what's happening unless you own the company.
So if you're working there and you are an employee, then your job is to fulfill your duties in whatever capacity you were hired for.
It has nothing to do with you giving your personal opinion on what is actually going on on stage.
And so now these people that work there have lost three sold-out shows.
So obviously his appeal is wide and far-reaching.
They sold out all the shows.
He's moved it to another place.
It's going to happen anyway.
And you've lost the revenue because you're capitulating to these woke individuals who think that they have a right to silence that that they don't agree with, which is so you're only going to have these watered down, sanitized, woke, politically correct comedians that are not going to be funny.
Think about, Sean, think about John Rivers.
Think about Richard Pryor.
Think about George Crystal.
He was so good at stand-up.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
Great one, Mark Levin, Congressman Jim Banks, that was supposed to be on the January 6th committee.
Christy Noam will look into the issue of Joe Biden now testing positive for COVID, Dr. Oz, Dr. Nicole Sapphire, Adam Carolla tonight, Steve Miller, Joe Concha, Nine Eastern, set your DVR, Hannity, Fox News.
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