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May 27, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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Let me give you a little insight into what we do in Talk Radio.
We like to entertain people.
We like to educate people.
We like to talk to people.
We like to have a little bit of fun, give you some, you know, maybe five, six, seven stories a show.
But when something like what happened in Uvalde, Texas happens, you've got to dedicate the proper amount of time because people still don't understand how something like this can happen.
So just so you know, and you you uh of course, every day, you get a wide variety from Sean.
You get entertainment, you get humor, you get direct education, you get real interviews.
I try to do the same sort of thing on my show.
But it's hard to get away from something like this, so I'm not gonna.
I want to talk about the effect of the woke crowd or the crowd that wants to dismantle the Western nuclear family like Black Lives Matter.
That was in in their charter, by the way.
This is not me making it up.
Like the push for the LGBTQ XYZ123 agenda.
When when things like that are overtaking our pop culture and they're being fed to our children, do we have the right sort of relationship, understanding our kids in 2022 that we had when I graduated high school in 1984.
And add into that the dopamine spike that happens so often now.
We're all addicted to that dopamine spike.
And what I mean by that is when you go on social media and you post a picture and somebody gives you a thumbs up or likes it or comments on it, you you feel this quick, you know, sort of euphoric feeling from a dopamine spike, and you want more of that.
Then you go back, and if somebody says something negative, it amplifies that feeling as well.
We know that this bad guy, the alleged bad guy, and I'm not gonna say his name.
You'll notice I haven't said his name.
Other news outlets are saying his name, I'm not saying they're right or wrong.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give this guy the notoriety nor the fame he was hoping to gain.
But the news reports show this guy posted on social media the guns, what he wanted to do.
He also was direct messaging people he didn't even know on like Instagram and saying elementary school kids are in trouble in real life.
I'm serious, watch what I'm gonna do.
Now we also know that the piece of garbage at Parkland, Florida, four years ago now, posted on YouTube that he wanted to be a school shooter.
We know that he had 36 different uh contacts with police, and the FBI was aware of them.
Still somehow he goes and kills 17 people.
I don't understand.
It's as if we had been forced through the the divisive politics of this country.
And the attack on the Judeo-Christian founding of the country.
We've been forced to not even talk to each other anymore.
Talk to your neighbors, listen to your kids, monitor their online activity.
People often would say, you know, violent video games beget violent kids.
And I've argued, man.
I've argued till I'm blew in the face.
That is not true.
A violent video game is just pixels on a screen.
It can't possibly be changing people's minds.
In fact, I've been playing video games my entire life, but I'm 55 years old.
And when I was graduating high school in 1984, we didn't have the internet.
If it existed, we didn't know much about it.
It really came into play probably in the early 90s with CompuServe and Prodigy and AOL showed up soon and soon thereafter.
It'd been in place since the late 60s, but we didn't know anything about it as as regular Americans.
It became this public thing into the early 90s, and then the late 90s, they really started taking off, and then into the 2000s, forget about it.
Everybody was on there.
Facebook was any any all anybody could talk about.
Post your pictures of your friends, your neighbors, who's the hot chick, who's a good looking dude.
And that's what we did.
And then the likes.
And who wants to be your friend?
And then who said what about what you said about some issue and who's arguing all night?
Look, I used to do this.
I would argue all night, but I wasn't conditioned from a young age to rely on the internet for my information.
I wasn't conditioned from a young age to get that dopamine spike from somebody giving a thumbs up on my picture.
You've got kids.
This guy was 18.
Some reports say 19.
He's a guy who's born after the year 2000.
He's born probably on a device from as early as he can get his hands on it.
He's on a device seeking some sort of affirmation from people who might not even be real.
They might be bots on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or Snapchat or whatever.
We have to start really utilizing our brains as parents, as community leaders, to again bring the community together and say, look, we agree on about 80% of stuff.
We can argue about the other 20, but let's all be community members and neighbors.
That's the first and foremost thing, and report something when you hear it.
Now, the lady that this guy was direct messaging, she's not at fault here.
She didn't do it, he did it.
He's a bad guy.
Really bad guy.
I'm glad he's dead.
I wish he would have been dead before 21 innocent people died.
Having said that, report it.
I got a guy who out of the blue is sending me messages on the internet saying he wants to become a school shooter for elementary school kids.
They're gonna get it.
Watch.
You'll see soon what I'm gonna do.
Report that, man.
Do it now.
You know, right after 9 11.
What was the policy?
See something, say something.
It's like we went away from that.
Why aren't we seeing something and saying something?
What exactly is it that's stopping us from saying something?
Is it that we'll feel guilty if there was really nothing going on?
We're afraid somebody will call us or if the person happens to be so-called of color?
Are we out of line because you know I'm just gonna not not look at that, and if I don't look at it, it'll go away?
There's a video that was being posted today, I can't remember who posted it on Twitter, where there's some guy acting like a nutjob, wearing like tights and a half shirt, jumping around a subway in New York City.
And he sits down next to a woman, she attempts to get up and move, and he grabs her by the hair and keeps her there, and everybody else in the subway car does nothing.
In fact, the person videotaping it does nothing, but videotape it.
You ever see these videos where there's somebody some fight between students?
Everybody's around there holding up video cameras, their phones.
Whereas in my day, we would jump in and stop it.
Or teachers would, or the school police officer would.
Now they're trying to get the next viral video.
Why?
Because you get the dopamine spike.
You feel good about yourself for a second.
You did something, ah, that went viral.
Do I want my stuff to be seen by a lot of people?
You bet.
I work hard.
I want to bring you the great interviews I can, the song parodies that I do, I want to bring you the humor that I do, the monologues that I do.
I want you to go and see it because that's my work, that's my job.
But if a few people see it, as much as that makes me unhappy, it's not going to make me think to myself, the world hates me.
Let me direct message a stranger and say I'm going to go shoot people.
Because if I did that, I would expect somebody to report me.
So often you find out, and my good friend Andy Pollock made reference to this earlier.
He said there are studies that he's seen that say 50% of these school shooters, these massacre bringers, are have some psychological issue and have been through some psychological evaluation.
This also goes back to releasing people from insane asylums.
There should be treatment for people who are not mentally able or capable of being in society.
And I can make a good argument that anybody who ends up doing a school shooting or a grocery store shooting or a mall shooting or a massacre in Aurora, Colorado, or running over people in Waukeshaw, Wisconsin, because they're white and you're black.
I can make the argument that they're all mentally ill.
So why are they in society?
Why aren't they getting the proper treatment?
Why aren't we identifying them?
Do you see the separation I'm talking about?
The separation that is put in place generally by politicians and leaders.
Generally, I'm going to say it on the left, like Obama's the great separator, right?
He said white people hated black people were a racist country.
Just yesterday he tweeted out that systemic racism lives in America and police officer, you know, killed George Floyd and so on.
The guy's still dividing as he's building his fourth house or something, as he's worth multiple millions of dollars, as he was elected president of the United States in the systemically racist country.
Somehow the black dude was elected president twice.
We have people continuing to divide us.
We as a people need to unite and remind government that we want them to protect our kids if you're going to make sure that you take my property tax money and pay for the school district.
The government isn't doing its job.
They aren't.
They think their job is to gain more power.
You gain more power by dividing people.
That's what they're doing.
We have to identify kids.
I'm going to give you some advice.
Are you a parent?
Are you a grandparent?
If you've got some kid two years old on a device, get them off.
Because I believe, and I think studies will show that you're rewiring that person's brain to have an alternative reality.
Get them off the device.
You want your kids to be on a device, you in and they're they're before they're even ten years old, half hour a day, hour a day, take it away.
Once they're a teenager, they think the phone is vital.
That's your phone.
You pay for the service.
You make them put it on the table, make them put it on the countertop at eight o'clock every night.
You're done.
I want you to go do your homework, watch TV with the family, whatever it happens to be.
You have to take charge.
You have to notice what they're looking at.
You have to notice what it is that they're playing, what it is that they're saying, how they're acting.
Because when they're still young, under 10, and even right before puberty, you might have an ability to help them get through whatever it is that they're dealing with, as long as they're talking to you and that you're you're you're part of a team that's making sure this kid grows up to be healthy and happy.
Because once they get to be 18, 19 years old, now they're adults.
And now you might not undo what's been done.
And you have to speak out against those who are attacking Judeo-Christian values that we have here.
This is a Judeo-Christian country.
I don't care what you think about what I just said.
It's fact.
Those who signed the Declaration of Independence were either deists, they believed in God, or Christians.
They believed in Jesus as the Lord and Savior.
Does that mean that you can't be something else?
Of course not.
The First Amendment actually says you're free to worship as you want, man.
And we're not going to pass a law in Congress that'll stop you.
And we're not going to establish a religion either.
But you can't deny that our country is founded on Judeo-Christian values, morals, and mores.
Because it was.
It's based on the Ten Commandments and the Magna Carta.
Go read those things if you don't think they're religious.
They are.
Yet we try to pretend because we are a government that's that's forced to allow us to worship however we want, that makes us an overtly secular country, and God should be thrown out.
We should have some some drag queen twerk for kindergartners.
That's what we should have.
Or somebody talked to four or five, six-year-olds about transitioning, or that your gender isn't really your gender, and sometimes the doctor makes a mistake.
We have to go back to that value system that worked well in this country.
As I said, guns, means of death, bombs, cars.
We've had those for a long time now in this country.
But we weren't seeing the mass murder like we're seeing now because there's something that has shifted at our value system and how we see human life.
I think the last thing I want to say about this, it is not ironic, it is hypocritical to see the let's kill any unborn child that we want left, 600,000 dead babies a year.
It's pretty hypocritical for them to say that the right somehow doesn't honor or love human life.
That's ridiculous.
We have to put those on the far fringes of either side aside, and we have to join together as an American community, and maybe just maybe we could take positive steps to stop what we saw in Uvaldi from happening again.
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Thank you, Sean.
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Let me go to line one and say hello and welcome to Rick, who is in Florida.
Rick, what's going on?
Hi.
Hey, Joe, how are you?
Living the dream, man.
Talk to you.
Hey, I appreciate your producer.
She's been very patient with me.
And Joe, you just covered about 80% of what I wanted to talk about right on right on spot.
I agree with you 100%.
We've got to get to the core value.
As I talk to the kids, I've been doing this for nine years as a substitute teacher.
I'm in front of over 35,000 students, and I love what I do, but I tell the students like what you just said.
I'm here to educate you, empower you, and entertain you with the facts.
Yeah.
And what happened in Columbine, what happened to Marjorie Douglas in Parkland, tragic.
And at Rob Elementary School and you know, Valde, tragic.
And listening to Andy Pollock, everybody is right on spot except for one thing.
We need to be able to not politicize it, step across the aisle, and work together as a team of the United States of America.
Yeah.
Undivided.
I could not agree.
Hey, listen, Rick, I could not agree more.
See, the bottom line is there is no Democrat that I've ever met that wants to see dead kids at school.
There's no Republican I've ever met that wants to see dead kids in school.
So when you start casting aspersions immediately, like the Castro brothers did, like like Beth O'Rourke did, like Obama seems to be doing.
I mean, that's not okay.
There's something wrong with you if you think that one side wants dead kids.
That's not the case.
And by the way, if you're following me on Twitter and you're trying to call out something that I said, make sure you listen to what I said.
I said I used to think violent video games didn't play a role, but kids are growing up now with a device in their hands from the time they're one or two years old, and that becomes the reality.
Make sure you listen to what I say.
I don't mind you disagreeing, but make sure that you disagreeing because you heard me.
Arizona, Jim, about a minute.
Let's go.
Yeah, how's it going?
Uh live in the dream.
You've got less than a minute now.
Let's go.
All right.
So, well, uh take more than a minute, but uh I'm gonna let you go then.
I don't have more than a minute.
Let me go to James who's in Colorado.
Got one minute for you, James.
Come on.
Hey, Jay hey, Joe.
Uh just real quick.
Uh if uh if my child gets killed at school by an active shooter, who can I sue?
Who can you sue?
Well, I think that the the kids would would the safety of the kids I think should be guaranteed by the school system, which is paid for by us, the taxpayers, which is which is uh procured.
That money is procured by the government.
So I think the government should be who you can sue.
But I would rather not worry about who I'm suing.
I'd rather send my kid to school and have her come home in one piece and have dinner with us.
That's what I want to focus on.
How do we fix the problem that we're actively looking at right now?
Victor Avula was in a gunfight with a cartel, a drug cartel in Mexico.
His partner, Jaime Zapata was killed in that gunfight.
He was injured.
He's an expert on the border.
He's an expert on safety, he's an expert on how to keep innocent people out of harm's way.
We talked to him about what changes we can make and what he knows about the shooting in Uvaldi when we come back.
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Thanks a lot for stopping by.
Really glad to have this guy back.
He's a former federal agent.
He, of course, was in a shootout with a drug cartel in Mexico where his partner, Jaime Zapata, was killed.
He was shot by by guns that actually came over the border during Fast and Furious.
It's Victor Avula.
Victor, how are you?
Good to see you again, my friend.
Doing good, Joe.
Thanks for having me today.
You know, I thought uh of getting a hold of you right away.
You're a law enforcement guy.
You're a guy whose job had been to keep us safe, to keep the country safe, our sovereignty in order.
And uh and for God's sakes, Victor, we've got to figure something out to keep our kids safe.
And and knowing what we saw yesterday took me right back to 1999.
Columbine happened, Victor, 23 years ago.
How is it?
I mean, just tell me as a law enforcement guy, a guy who would give your life for this country.
How is it that we can't protect our kids yet?
Um, I'll tell you uh uh I went through a lot of emotions yesterday, uh angry, uh, anxiety, and and all this stuff that as we see this happening, especially when it comes to innocent children.
And yes, I will pray.
Yes, I will uh my send my condolences to the family because I think we need more of that.
As a matter of fact, I think this it's a combination of a lot of things that's happening in our country.
It's a cultural thing.
We've had guns around for many, many centuries in this in this country, and I don't believe that's the problem.
I think that the problem is a lot of things, the the fatherless home, uh, the culture uh uh of the left that I think is pushing our children in a different direction.
Um, and uh the sense of God and community and family that I think we need to get back to basics and of course a physical.
Uh as a law enforcement officer, I do believe in physical security.
I do think that in hardening some of these schools is a good thing to do, and having more uh school resource officers and highly trained uh uh officers, maybe even uh teachers, but um, we need to do everything to send the signal to these crazy lunatics out there that you're not gonna come to a school.
It's no longer gonna be a soft target or vulnerable target for you to come and take advantage of.
It is uh Victor Avula, uh, he's got a great book out.
He's the author of um uh of this wonderful book.
If you haven't gotten it yet, it's Agent Under Fire, Agent Underfire Book.com to go find out more about that.
So uh what you said culturally, I want to get into that in a little while, because you're right, but that's a long-term thing.
We have to take the long road to try to get our value system back.
We're Judeo-Christian um uh society here in America.
We're not acting like it anymore.
In fact, we've got radicalization being pushed on our kids in public schools that you and I are forced to pay for.
So we can get into that.
We can also get into mental health.
Why are these people out?
And why are they available to get anywhere near the so-called soft targets?
But let's start from where you got to third, which is how do we harden these targets?
How do we harden these schools, these grocery stores, these you know, movie theaters, to the point to where I still feel free and liberated that I'm not going to jail to go watch a movie, or I'm not sending my kid to jail to go to school.
How do we do that and keep some sense of freedom from you know, these bad guys are getting in somehow?
If we had a one-entry spot in a school, if there was, you know, some sort of bulletproof glass in a vestibule between you and the door to get to the kids, maybe that would work.
How do you foresee doing that?
If I said, okay, Victor, you're the guy and you're gonna fix what the problem is at schools.
Let's start at schools.
What would you do specifically to the physical building that they go to?
The first thing I would do, and this is something that I've already looked in in some uh businesses that uh already starting to develop this kind of technology.
And this technology that I'm talking about is the detection of weapons uh as someone is approaching a campus with a weapon.
This type of technology recognizes this weapon, this this uh technology recognizes this person, a weapon versus a bat versus a stick.
It recognizes the actual weapon, uh, somebody coming in, sensors, camera systems, sophisticated camera systems, just like we use, like you said, in a lot of other venues.
Why can't we have those installed in our school systems?
These camera systems, by the way, would be linked to the local police departments and sheriff's departments where they would be alerted in a moment's instant, uh immediately if there was a a censor of something that goes wrong where someone can be able to hit that button immediately, and and it's all about response time.
I know that uh all of this is good, and we should try to do it, and I want to do it.
Um, it might not prevent a hundred percent to do it, but it will save lives in the long run.
We want the the response to be quicker, and we we don't we don't have to rely on hopefully somebody passing by to do it.
Uh security systems, uh uh sensors.
And it sounds a little bit like I talk a little bit about the border, but that's kind of the same of technology that we're looking at here.
Uh technology that will assist these law enforcement officers and also I would say um resources.
A lot of these small communities and even in the big cities uh in the Dallas Fort Worth area, by example, where I live, they don't have the complete resources to be able to do that.
They don't have the uh networking established with uh police departments or SROs or additional officers to have the patrol.
And so we we, if you put all that together, they're left open and vulnerable to these type of attacks.
But if we start hardening these systems, not necessarily with the physical doors, and I'm not thinking of going as far as maybe putting a uh male detector, and I'm thinking about uh ensuring that the those self-locking doors and stuff like that will would come to uh something that we're gonna have to rely on and make something as a normal day and and keep our kids safe as and send our kids knowing that they're gonna be safe in school.
Victor Avila, he is uh a former federal agent.
He's got a book out called um Agent Under Fire, go and get this book.
You know, it's interesting.
Uh I hadn't heard about this technology that you're talking about.
Um I'm a guy who's allowed to carry a gun.
So if I'm walking up to the school and I didn't leave the gun in the car and you can't have guns uh on that campus, this technology would see me coming and then alert the school and lock the doors.
How exactly does it work?
It would know that I had a firearm?
This this technology actually, with the video system detects uh a firearm.
It would detect, for example, a bag that is left unattended for a long time.
It would detect a vehicle that's being parked out of place for uh a certain amount of time.
So it detects uh it has a lot of algorithms that you would be able to put into the system.
And the best part about this technology is that it would uh then work in conjunction with the local police department and sheriff's department, as they would actually even uh have a an immediate live view from within the cameras, the exterior cameras, interior cameras, to see exactly if there's an active shooter.
Wow.
Uh it's technology that we should certainly not only look into, but we should get it.
We have all this money to send overseas to go secure borders in Ukraine and so on.
We don't have any money for our kids in school.
$68 billion a year at the Department of Education, that none of which appears to be spent on security.
Well, what else would you do?
I mean, when I when I see at a school, this is a gun-free zone.
If I'm a bad guy that tells me there are no guns here, shouldn't we stop advertising that we can't we we're helpless and we can't defend ourselves?
That's absolutely true.
I mean, uh I want to do the opposite, put big old signs and say, as a matter of fact, we have a bunch of guns here.
And if if in fact you're gonna threaten any of our children, we weren't a response with lethal force.
This is the this is the times that we live in, and we need highly qualified school resource officers, police officers highly trained in active shooter situations.
We need teachers and administrators trained in these type of situations as well.
Once you have these individuals in every campus at every level, not just the high schools or uh or junior high schools, but obviously in the elementary schools as well.
Once you have that type of training, you're sending the signal out there to these nuts that, hey, you're gonna come in here, you're gonna be faced with gunfire when you come with gunfire.
What a face fire with fire.
Yeah.
Uh agent underfired book.com, go there and get his book.
It's uh Victor Avula.
You know, what's interesting about that argument is that uh I, of course, trust teachers with my children or my grandchildren eight or nine hours a day.
We trust them with making them productive Americans, we trust them with educating them, we trust them to let them go to the bathroom when they have to and feed them when they're hungry, but we can't trust them to defend them.
And the argument that you get from people that are against teachers being armed, a well-armed, well-educated, well-trained teacher with a firearm might stop the guy before he kills 19 innocent people or 23 or 22 innocent people.
Um but the argument seems to be, yeah, but what if the student gets the gun from him?
I I don't understand that.
It just doesn't make any sense.
That's like saying police shouldn't have firearms either, because what if I get the gun away from the cop?
Which is not something that happens often.
It happens, but not that often.
Does that argument make any sense to you that we can't have teachers that we trust in every other aspect of our kids' lives, we can't allow them to defend them in school?
That's a horrible argument.
And I and I I agree with you that uh there will always be a staffer, an administrator, a teacher, a coach, someone that will be uh that will step up to want to be.
I'm not saying that we have to force the teachers to have to be trained, but if they want to be, and I'm sure we could find those teachers because you know what?
They already give their lives.
You saw the ones that two of them that gave their lives to protecting these kids anyway.
So they are really willing to give their lives for these children.
Let's give them some more resources, some more tools.
And one of those tools is a firearm.
And changing the laws, I mean, Victor, I don't know what law would have stopped this guy yesterday.
Uh so changing the laws doesn't make any sense to me either, simply because it's against the law to kill innocent people in a school.
So already the person knows he's committing a crime.
Already, you know, allegedly he shot his grandmother, too.
So here's a guy that doesn't care about laws.
Laws apply to people like you and me that follow them.
It doesn't apply to the bad guy that will go in and shoot up a grocery store because he doesn't like black people.
So so uh uh do you think there's any law we can pass right now that suddenly changes things like what happened yesterday?
Absolutely not.
And I had this discussion, very passionate discussion with my family yesterday about this.
It's not the gun and it's not the laws.
You could pass a thousand laws right now, and it wouldn't apply to the bad guy.
The bad guy is always gonna have a gun and he's gonna get access to the gun.
Whether he gets it legally or illegally, the bad guy's gonna get it.
What you do with these laws is you actually restrict the law abiding citizen from protecting themselves and and uh and uh you know uh enforcing their second amendment rights.
And so I I I strongly believe that um it's not the weapon here, it's a lot of other issues, mental health and anything that we've been talking about, but uh training a lot of people that go out there and buy guns, they need to be trained as well, not just because you could carry one, you're just gonna get get one.
You need uh adequate training to do as well to respond to use it.
But um it doesn't matter.
Laws are not gonna are not gonna change this.
It it's it's something that is an argument that falls flat on his face because the bad guy, the gang member, the cartel member, all these individuals will continue to have them no matter what law you pass.
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It's uh Victor Aviola, former federal agent.
What's interesting is we've done about 11 minutes now, Victor, and we haven't talked about politics at all.
Because we don't have to.
This is not political.
But then you see somebody who is a political, you know, animal like a Beto or Rourke, who or like Julian Castro who could not wait to tweet yesterday about changing gun laws.
Um, I don't understand why we have to do that.
You had a get together uh in Uvaldi today where you had the governor, the lieutenant governor, the U.S. senators, you had people who are on the left and on the right up on the stage, just trying to get information out to families that are just now finding out that unbelievably their child was one that was killed yesterday.
So instead of gathering together, you got a guy who thinks that he should be the next governor of Texas, show up and try to shout down the governor.
Does that help anything?
Is there a political solution to this, or do we have to come together like a community and say, I don't care which side of the aisle you're on, let's save the kids?
It just goes to show that the left is despicable and uh dishonorable in the sense that they won't even allow the family members not even 24 hours to mourn the loss of their loved ones, their children in this case.
And in this case, Robert Francis or Rourke takes advantage to go in there and blame the governor of Texas for this horrific act.
He's out of line.
And I'm glad what uh I agree with the mayor uh of Uvaldi and what he called them an SOB because I have some few few choice words for uh O'Rourke myself, being from El Paso, Texas, him and I could be no very, very different uh uh as a conservative Hispanic American, and where he comes from does not signify my values and most of the values of the people of El Paso, Texas.
Yet he comes and speaks and uh and really what he is is a coward, I think.
He's a coward for doing that, um, and uh disrespect that the family, law enforcement, and everyone that is trying to abide by this horrific event that he has absolutely no clue.
This man has never been to a crime scene.
He has never seen what this uh uh carnage has done to this families and the and the responding uh officers and detectives that have to investigate these crimes.
It these are horrific scenes that they actually have to deal with themselves.
And uh this guy put all of that aside because he wants to be governor of Texas.
It's pretty sick.
I mean, when I saw it, uh I I I've been watching this guy for a while.
He seems to think he's owed the governor's Job or the U.S. Senate seat or something.
It's very strange the sense of entitlement that he has, but I'm glad you brought you brought up that you're both from the same place.
I think the the American people, uh even outside of Texas, think that he somehow does depict what El Paso is.
Liberal, far left, no fence, open border.
When I know that it's uh predominantly Hispanic in El Paso, predominantly Catholic or Christian in El Paso, predominantly uh conservative values-wise people.
Why does he get away with bringing in outside California money and New York money and Chicago money to try to win the governor's office when he really doesn't represent somebody like you who's from the same place?
It's it's uh it's his ideology, this liberalism, progressivism, his globalism agenda that I think is destroying our country.
Uh just is the open borders part of it.
They all want it.
And remember what Beto said uh uh uh just when he was running for president that he was gonna take everybody's guns and he was coming to get your AR-15.
Right.
And then as he started running for governor, he said he's not.
Right.
So now he while he wants to do it again.
He has no idea uh uh of the values of Texans in this state, and uh he's just a dangerous individual and a coward, and I'll say it to his face.
And he would say it to his face.
That's Victor Avula.
He is a former federal agent.
He is a guy who um who took bullets for this country and lost his partner.
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But uh either way, we have to come together as a country, as a country with values to protect our kids and innocent people at shopping malls and grocery stores.
That's just the bottom line, and I think we can do it together.
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