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Um I have been just like screaming from the mountaintop.
It is just so unacceptable that a country as powerful as the United States of America to have a president this incompetent.
Here we are now, we've entered year three of this pandemic, and right after Christmas, nobody can find any tests, any place, anywhere, or you gotta wait eight days to get a COVID test.
Um they were presented a plan, according to Vanity Fair, the Biden administration, back in October that they would be producing seven hundred and thirty some odd million tests available a month, October, November, December, knowing Hanukkah, that Christmas, New Year's, a lot of get togethers, predictable increase in in cases, and they rejected the plan.
There's no excuse for that.
And then they made the statement, well, we didn't see Omicron coming.
You mean after Delta, you didn't think there'd be another variant?
Well, let me warn everybody now in the White House.
There's there's going to be the next variant, and apparently it's this new leap more lethal variant of Omicron, which is I think one and a half times, according to the science as I'm reading it, uh, one and a half times more contagious.
We don't know yet if it is more lethal and dangerous.
We'll find out over time.
But by the way, don't be fooled by all the reports.
Well, it's not as bad as Delta Omicron isn't.
Um, because I know a lot of people that have died from Omicron.
We're losing th thousand three thousand on average a day every single day.
That's from Omicron.
And every and yeah, sure, it's far less lethal or a little less lethal than Delta.
People are still dying from it.
Uh, then the next big mess up, screw up, has been, well, why did we run out of monoclonal antibodies?
How is that possible?
Jen Psaki was asked this, and listen to this.
Secondly, the FDA yesterday withdrew the EUA for some...
Monoclonal antibody treatments because they don't work against Omicron.
But Florida continues to push for the treatment for people in the state.
What's your response to Governor Santas?
And what's your message to the people of war?
Well, let's just take a step back here just to realize how crazy this is a little bit.
Um, we've approached uh COVID treatments like filling a medicine cabinet.
We're not relying on one type, one brand or treatment.
We invested in and continue to buy a variety across monoclonal antibodies, pre-exposure prevention therapies, and oral antivirals.
We have provided 71,000 doses of antivirals to Florida, including 34,000 additional treatments that do work against Omicron.
Just this last week.
I'm sorry, about of a range of those treatments, I should say, to be clear.
What the FDA is making clear is that these treatments, the ones that they are fighting over, that the governor is fighting over, do not work against Omicron, and they have side effects.
That is what the scientists are saying.
We have sent them twenty-one thousand doses of treatments that are effective against Omicron and are effective also against Delta.
Uh, and they are still advocating uh for treatments that don't work.
The re the reason that Governor DeSantis now she's speaking species uh specifically about Regeneron and Eli Lilly's monoclonal antibodies is because once the federal government, once Joe finally discovered that they exist in his vaccine mandate speech, uh the first time he ever mentioned monoclonal antibodies, um, you know, then he started buying them all up.
Now the favored monoclonal antibody of choice, it turns out to be GSK Sotrobamab, it's called, and why we have a shortage of that since it was authorized since I believe of May.
Um there's no excuse for that either.
And these antivirals that people like Dr. Oz have been telling us about.
Anyway, Dr. Mehmet Oz is with us.
Don't forget he's a candidate.
I'm supporting him in his run for the nomination in the Senate in Pennsylvania.
We'll get to that in a second here.
How is it possible that they ran out?
How?
They don't understand how business works.
And I'm gonna emphasize this.
If you've never worked in business, if you've never been an entrepreneur, if you never face mindless red tape that doesn't make the system uh safer, just creates obstacles, and oftentimes only allows large companies who've got you know hundreds of people focused on the paperwork to be able to m manage it, you're not gonna get ideas that work and are useful.
And in this case, we have huge companies who still weren't able to get it done.
The Merck pill, you spoke about treatments.
The Merck pill, which works to reduce the chance that you'll die from COVID if you get it, existed prior to the first virus case in America.
And still, despite that, two years ago, we still don't have the pills in our pharmacy.
It took the company at least a year of working around the U.S. government because the government wouldn't get behind it in any or allowed the trials.
They worked around the government, enrolled, listen carefully, two patients per day.
That's it.
Two people per day, millions of people have the virus.
They were only able to get two people per day to be in the trial showed huge benefit.
The FDA finally, in a meandering way, go operational whoop speed, as you alluded to, says, uh, what the heck, go ahead and give pills to people to save their lives.
Now, because the companies didn't know if the the roulette of the FDA was going to give them permission, now they got to buy the machines, develop the pills, make the raw materials.
Much of it doesn't exist in America.
You gotta go overseas sometimes.
But again, antivirals, is that a hard thing to contemplate being effective?
And I'm gonna go back to something that you and I have talked about a lot, because you and I this past week even spent up late hours trying to find antibiotic cocktails.
The mantra of from Washington has been vaccine.
You can meditate to it.
The answer to every problem we have.
Omicron hits our shores, boost the kids.
That'll deal with it.
Omicron is still raging around the country.
I got news today we're gonna allow kids under five to get vaccinated.
How is that going to deal with Omicron?
Why can't you just give us treatments that doctors can use to actually help people who are dealing with the virus?
Especially because vaccinated people, vaccinated people with boosters and even people with natural immunity, uh they're even getting it twice in their case.
They're they're transmitting the disease.
So it's not a disease of the unvaccinated, and they just cling to this old outdated worn-out science.
Now, now that we know that everybody can get it, vaccinated and boosted and natural immunity, the only logical answer is then therapeutics for whether you have a breakthrough case or you never got the vaccine, it doesn't matter.
The idea is to save lives, isn't it?
Well, think about your normal medical practice.
I gotta say the single biggest uh harm amazing change in America over the doing COVID was we have completely eliminated the patient-doctor relationship.
Doctors have said you can't do anything.
So doctors said, you know what, don't come to my office if you've got a fever, go to the ER.
Don't talk to me about treatments because you don't have any.
Uh, you know what?
If you got an issue, uh I can't really play a role in that because of government mandates and rules, you got to deal with that with your employer or with the you know, whatever closest clinic is near you, but we destroyed the doctor's role.
Normally we say, okay, I think your cholesterol is too high, take this cholesterol pill.
But guess what?
If you call me and say I'm having chest pressure, I think I'm having a heart attack, I say, come and we see you quickly, and I treat the heart attack.
In COVID, it's the opposite.
Go home, if your lips turn blue, call the ER, or just go to the ER.
If you're lucky enough to get there, they'll give you whatever they have, which is basically steroids.
We failed The American people, but we also silenced medicine.
And by doing that, have created a massive risk about all the other things we're supposed to be able to do with our doctors.
And we both got the crap kicked out of us in the beginning, and your line was perfect.
You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you have.
Now there's been numerous studies that showed HCQ, for example, when taken early, uh, does ha mitigate some of the impact and effects of of COVID.
Now, the the therapeutic of choices, obviously, monoclonal antibodies, and and you're very high on these antivirals.
I am not as up to speed on them as I am monoclonals, and I I don't have anecdotes about it.
Um I want to shift gears a little bit here and go to you.
This is you at I guess you were at a town hall yesterday, and uh talking about Washington, DC doesn't understand the values of the American people.
Those Americans, they built that shining city on a hill.
They figured it out.
And if they figured it out, we could get this straight too.
We could make democracy work for us.
The threat to America is a threat to the planet.
If we lose, democracy loses.
And China and ChICOM leadership there, z G, they win, and totalitarian rule becomes what the world will start to experience because their economy will still work because they run it.
Our economy works and is more vibrant, more creative and more innovative and more effective because we are a democracy.
Which brings me back to the fundamental reality of conservatism.
Why is it Washington keeps getting it wrong?
Do they not care?
Right?
No, I don't think that's it at all.
Washington keeps getting it wrong because they have different values than you and me.
They don't even understand our values.
You know, that was a pretty powerful statement.
It reminds me of Reagan saying government is the problem.
Well, these Barnes storming events we are doing, and uh, you know, that we get hundreds of people to pack their way into a beer hall or pizza parlor or or whatever public space there is.
And I was going through the across the state, and I still am, gathering folks just to get them in their anxiety.
There's so much passion out there.
People want change, they see it, they know it's possible.
And when you get them into this room, it's like a big therapy session.
It's almost like recreating my show, but I on the move.
And these wonderful human beings who've suffered in different ways, but all share the same common belief that America is not an irredeemably stained country that does not need to be broken down, and they don't trust people to rebuild it with their toxic ideology.
And they're pushing back about the economy, which is an angering issue because it's done almost carelessly, throwing money at problems.
They're really angry about schools, in part because of COVID mandates, but the masks and other examples when the government is doing things that just doesn't make sense, and they can see through it.
They know that that the the fake and false narratives that are being thrown at them are relevant.
And in that little speech, I I do always include this, remind people that the real threat to America is China, because they must destroy us, otherwise the uh if they don't, there's no reason for them to exist.
Because who would want that government totalitarian oversight at every level if they can have our government and still have a good economy?
I understand this weekend.
I had I had heard about this, and I actually tweeted out at the Philly Inquirer, uh, because they refused to call you doctor.
Now you did go to medical school and you did an internship and a residency, and I think you you've done and performed over 4,000 heart surgeries in the course of your medical career.
Uh I think you earned the right to be called doctor myself.
Um but there was apparently, I guess somebody one of the delegates at one of these events got sick and that you were able to help this person.
How's that person doing?
Doing well, went home.
Uh, and it was uh it's a scary moment, and everyone should know this by the way, who's listening.
When you find someone who's in this case, he looked like he was seizing, was collapsing, falling over.
Thankfully, the person next to him supported them till I got over because it you often will fall and hurt yourself from the fall more than what caused the problem.
Uh, quickly establishes the ABCs, make sure the airways open, they're not choking, make sure they're breathing, so you just look at the lungs and the nose flaring, and then see make sure there's a pulse.
In this case, he had a pulse, but he was clammy and uh he was unconscious.
So by keeping his airway clean, I put a piece of chocolate inside of his mouth, and uh he turns out he's a diabetic.
So I believe that was his issue, and you know, thankfully it all worked out.
But it was funny when you tweeted that because there was the Philadelphia inquiry reporter who commented on it, then you reminded him that he's not supposed to call me doctor.
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is a candidate for the Republican Senate nomination in the great state of Pennsylvania.
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Of course he's running for to be the US the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania.
Here's the question I'm asked most often.
And and I I've told you privately, I've told uh others on the air uh there are other good people running for office.
I don't know them.
We have had a relationship going back years now.
And I when when I first supported Donald Trump and I said to people I said I'm telling you he will govern as a conservative because I know him.
And I could understand some people very critical.
I mean I was uh routinely beaten up by by prominent conservatives because I said it uh and a bunch of Johnny come latelies now want to act like they're the biggest Trump supporters in the world which I'm fine with I didn't mind at all because I knew the person um I know where your values are because we have talked about every issue.
Um why don't you just take a a couple of minutes here and describe your political philosophy and we you know because we spent all these hours on the phone I got to know you really well and and that's why I I enthusiastically support your candidacy.
Well thank you for that and for all the leadership you've shown in many areas and uh the comparison that President Trump has brought up a lot these barnstroming events are a good example they're a fractions of course what he would attract but it's it's helpful to know that there's a lot of energy out there and people actually gravitate towards you.
They want to hear how you express because you they want a bold powerful voice to share the wisdom they think they have and here's the deal conservatism to me fundamentally was about evolving fully formed people who have thought about it who have a strong moral foundation so they can be civic leaders and build our communities and make our country stronger and when you have a victim mindset which is what the liberal part of the Democratic party is saying the the progressive part everything is about victims.
Therefore if you're not a victim you're an oppressor so they tell the victims not your fault don't worry about it we'll throw money at the problem and that doesn't work because it makes people miserable nobody wants to be a victim.
People want to control their future at the same time you tell people who the quote unquote oppressors even if it's nothing to do with them that they're bad people who need to be penalized, need to be brought back down, they need to be educated you know verbiage that comes back to you know reminds us all of the communist edicts of a hundred years ago and so you're thinking my goodness can history repeat itself and I'm arguing that some of the greatest movements in the communist culture have happened because smart people didn't do anything about it.
They watch it happen right in front of them.
And I've had this lesson reminder to me over and over again America's based on a piece of paper 250 years old piece of parchment that's fragile and the veneer civilization is thin.
You and I have both been in scenarios where it cracks we have to protect the the beautiful city on the on the hill that I described in my speech because if we don't shame on us we have the ability we know the knowledge everyone is forewarned we have to say what we see and stop being coward.
Reagan said freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
Well said.
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We brought it up earlier, the dual controversies, I guess, now, as it relates to Joe Rogan and Whoopi Goldberg and the comments that she made.
I'm looking at you, and the whole first hour, as I'm talking about this, you're like chomping at the bit, dying to get into this.
What I don't like is Joe Rogan apologizes and plunging more balance on his podcast and support.
Spotify because what you know, aging old, hippie, you know, rocking in the free world, Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, um, you know, pull their music from Spotify because they don't like what Joe Rogan said.
Now, if we're gonna talk about Joe Rogan, what what what is what was the main criticisms of Rogan?
All right, Rogan, and I don't know why every famous person does this.
They, you know, he admits, I got COVID.
Okay.
Then he talks about we threw everything we had at it.
And by that I he gave details, monoclonal antibodies, HCQ, ivermectin.
I I've yet to see a study on Ivermectin, so I don't know anything about it.
I know Merck does not recommend off label use of it, but I it's it's not one I've seen a study on.
Um monoclonals, I can go into detail.
Now that these antivirals are out, I'm learning more every day, but I'm not an expert on them yet, but I only hear good things and it's universal from every doctor I talk to.
And I don't know if Rogan really believes, you know, I I I'm having a hard time understanding the fact that Fauci and the C D C and the NIH and and Joe Biden, the very people that said, Oh, you get vaccinated, you'll never get COVID.
And I think, you know, he said, I'm not trying to promote misinformation, I'm not trying to be controversial.
I mean, his show is like sitting at a bar and having a conversation.
And and you know what?
When you're sitting at a bar, he's not claiming to be an expert, and I just cannot believe that we're at this point where he felt the need to apologize. 'Cause the problem is, and I don't know if you saw this, Linda, but they've already started.
There was an article out just one day after pledging to make his his show more accurate, Joe Rogan shared a false story claiming that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin was found to be effective against uh against COVID and stage three clinical trials.
It turns out that they didn't read the full report.
Okay.
Sounds like an honest mistake to me.
And I don't think he understands the world we have lived in now for thirty-three years and twenty-six years on Fox.
And Joe, no apologies ever gonna go over well.
All they're gonna do is demand more and more and more and more and more apologies, because they don't believe in freedom of speech.
My answer to your decision on how you treated a positive COVID test, which is to throw everything they got at it.
And you made that decision you said with your doctor, and included monoclonal antibodies, which I believe is by far the best therapeutic out there.
Okay, I'm not a doctor, I'm not gonna play one on I'm just glad he's better.
I'm glad he didn't become a statistic like so many other Americans.
I'm glad he he's well.
Why can't we just be happy for that?
And the idea that he's interviewing, for example, Dr. Robert Malone, who was critical in creating the technology that allowed for the creation of MRNA vaccines, um, and critical of that he has a different view.
He thinks they're being overused, he thinks it should be for people 65 and older, people obese with comorbidities.
He has a he he has a much more stringent range and even said, I don't think the technology's quite perfected yet.
So that's one story, and then Whoopi Goldberg and the comment that she made on the view that the Holocaust is not about race.
And she seems to be forgiven, and Rogan, they just won't take his their people won't take their foot off his neck.
I know whoopy Goldberg, and I know uh I can see you looking at me with daggers.
I'm telling you, I I I guarantee you she wasn't thinking about the you know superior race aspect to the Holocaust, um, or or having a deep, deep knowledge and understanding of how six million people were slaughtered because they were Jewish.
That is a historical fact.
I talk specifically um about the horrors of the Holocaust and the human evil and man's inhumanity to man, which she mentioned.
Um, and you know, and then I take the position.
You know what?
She apologized.
Move on.
I accept her apology that she wasn't trying, she was i she definitely was inarticulate, maybe lacking some knowledge.
And I I I don't it's not like I go to the view to anybody would go to the view to get hard hitting, you know, historical knowledge in my opinion.
You just have a you know group of people chatting all day.
Kind of like what Rogan does.
He has long drawn out interviews with people.
Um, and he does a good job at it.
What?
Go ahead.
I could say you know, listen, who you and and uh Whoopi Goldberg have been friends for a long time.
Um we're not friends, I haven't talked to her in years.
No, no, no, no.
I have found her to be a nice person.
I mean, in in the time that I have been here, you know, the Christmas gifts were exchanged, baskets were sent.
Um, you guys have a friendship, and I think that you have always been somebody who, you know, from whether it's Bill Maher, whether it's Colbert, you know, whoever it is, you believe in people having the ability to speak their mind and say what they want.
And and I hear you, she apologized.
I think where I have a little bit of static with this, and I find the uh one-sided hypocritical point of view very disturbing, is that if it was somebody on the other side of the argument who said something that she didn't like, and it's happened many times on the view.
I mean, she loses her mind.
Her and Joy Behard, they just scream down the other side.
And I think that is the thing that irritates me the most right now about discussion on pretty much any topic, right?
So I'll I like me personally, I love the debate.
I love argue.
I I I would love for you to change my mind on something that I've made it up on, right?
But most of the time when you're talking to somebody who doesn't agree with you, specifically with people on the left, and Whoopi is a perfect example.
They shot you down, they call you names, they just they're right, you're wrong, and that's all there is to it.
There's no more difference.
It's disgusting.
It's disgusting.
That's irrelevant.
No, it's not.
But it's not, it's very important.
And you agree with me on this, we don't ever call for firings.
We believe in second chances.
Nobody's freaking perfect.
Well, and you're also talking for four hours a day.
At some point when you say, You're gonna screw up.
You're gonna screw up, you're gonna say something you didn't mean, or you're gonna speak out of turn, or you're gonna misquote a story, or you know, I mean, how many times has CNN gotten it wrong and said nothing or put the correction at the bottom of the page?
You know, Joe Rogan sees something, he talks about it, maybe he did his show before that story came out, maybe it was pre-re-recorded, and then they aired it at a different time.
Yeah, I mean, who the heck knows?
But they can't wait to jump on him because he didn't capitulate and he didn't say, 'I agree with everything that the woke left is saying.' And so Whoopi, who is a part of that woke left and who was a part of that whole system now of canceling everybody and the whole bully mentality.
If you don't agree with me, we're gonna shut you up, we're gonna go after your advertisers, we're gonna go after your show, we're gonna make sure you never work again.
Why?
And how it started, I mean, look at this guy really came from.
And I I and uh I know Rogan has spoken very highly of his partners at Spotify, and that he really likes them.
And I think he recognized that maybe because of the controversy, and I'm I'm guessing here, uh just knowing the internal workings of how people deal with controversies.
And my guess is that he probably out of respect for his partners, wanted to kind of give them a lifeline and and get them out of this before, say Taylor Swift or you know, a real artist of of significant value to the company decided to follow suit with these other people.
Now, what I don't understand, too, and I brought this up earlier.
I thought, you know, we're talking about mus musicians.
Aren't they also artist artists?
Aren't they, you know, what happened to the idea that art is supposed to be original, and the idea that we don't have to all think the same.
Yeah, I th this drives me insane.
Nobody's forcing anybody to watch the Joe Rogan experience.
I I actually think he's talented.
He's a good interviewer, he's a curious guy.
He loves long form interviews.
I don't love long form interviews.
That's my particular style.
Uh but but he's doing great with what he's got.
The view is what the view is.
I'm not gonna watch the view.
If something happens.
Can I just gently disagree with you for a minute?
Because I love what you're saying, and and you're very Switzerland, and that's lovely.
It's wonderful.
My problem is at what point do we all stand up and say, go ahead, leave, Sayonara, have a great day.
Because we're not here for your threats and your cancel culture.
Companies have to start with the colour.
But I'm saying the same thing.
I am no, you're saying Joe Rogan gave him a lifeline so that other people know I said he gave Spotify a lifeline.
Right.
I said, but but in but in doing so, he is now gonna be called upon to apologize again and again and again.
What Joe Rogan may not know, and I'm I believe this with all my heart.
Joe Rogan's fans, if he decided, let's say Spotify just says, you know what, I we can't do this.
He can take they they'll pay him out with his contract, which happens a lot in this business, and he can start his own podcast and get or get another partner that can, you know, that's willing to take on freedom of speech and controversy, and he's not gonna lose people that like Joe Rogan's podcast.
Agreed.
He'd be able to start anywhere he wants, run his own show, and tell everybody that they can go blank the Adam shift themselves.
Exactly right.
And that's where we're at right now.
We're at a place in our culture, we're at a place in society where you can no longer have a conversation.
Like you and I are having a conversation every day, right?
And there's plenty of things we agree on and I have to think of a lot more.
And you're welcome.
I'm just keeping it colorful, you know, as you said before.
Sometimes I go into my artist mode and I have a little bit more expression that I want to, you know, oh, is that what we're gonna call this now?
I'm gonna call your pastor back, who is a great guy.
I finally got to talk to him.
Pastor Tim, yeah.
I'm gonna oh my gosh.
The point.
Wait, can I tell you?
Can I tell you something funny?
So he did a sermon on Sunday.
It was very interesting from the book of Daniel, and it was all about accepting people and having conversation and loving people that are quote unquote in the Bible your enemy.
And he goes, What I mean by that is when you pull up behind somebody and they have a Biden Harris sticker on the bumper of their car, or they have a MAGA hat and they're wearing it in their car, or you're in the grocery store and they're wearing a let's grow Brandon t-shirt.
Can you still be okay with that person?
He goes, because I know lots of families and friends that don't talk anymore because they can't accept one another for their belief system.
And as far as I'm concerned, it's far more on the left than it is on the right.
And I laughed and we talked about it after, and I said, you know, you talk about people wearing those let's go Brandon, um, those Joe Biden hats.
I said, I've never seen anybody with a Joe Biden hat on.
I've seen MAGA, I've seen Let's Go Brandon.
I've never seen a Joe Biden t-shirt or Joe.
I got a let's go Brandon T-shirt, Clay Clay sent to me.
It's amazing.
I mean, to but seriously, there's nobody, yeah.
I'm not getting mad at anybody for wearing those because they're nowhere.
What it meant is even funnier.
Oh my God.
It's listen, at the end of the day, him and his wife sitting there at Christmas time, not having a clue.
That guy didn't know where he was.
That doesn't mean that the last 47 years of his legislative life is not pathetic and evil and that Ford number 48 is any better.
But I do think he's a little bit out to lunch here and there and doesn't have a clue what day it is.
But putting that all aside, I gotta be honest.
I was one of those people in church on Sunday saying, I don't know if I can do that anymore.
You know, I would just rather not talk to you.
This might be a difference.
I don't have a problem with liberals.
I don't I don't have a problem with people that hate me.
Now, I can walk in um an establishment, a room anywhere, especially in New York, and I can literally spot in somebody's face almost immediately if they hate my guts.
And and they're triggered by the very sight of me.
I can see it.
Um similarly, I can see people that also, you know, are probably like the shows.
I'm very grateful to them because they they let me do this every day.
And but uh you can spot it.
It's so obvious.
Once you get an eye for it, it's not hard.
And I don't care that they hate me.
That's their problem.
I don't hate them.
Right, but the issue is, Sean, is that the thing is that the thing is.
Let's put it that way.
Okay, yeah, but I do think they know what they're doing, and I think that's where the problem is.
And to come full circle to Whoopi, I don't really think that she was saying what she said.
I don't think it came from a malicious or nefarious place.
I don't think there's a lot of people who don't understand that you know, race and religion are synonymous to certain people of the Jewish faith, specifically when we're talking about the Holocaust because Adolf Hitler called it an inferior race.
So it's a completely different conversation, but clearly she didn't know that.
And I'm not saying that that came from that place or not.
All I'm saying is that that same luxury of forgiveness would not be given to our side of the aisle.
And I think that's all I'm looking for is a little bit of equity across the board.
If we're gonna say people can say what they want, they can be forgiven, we can keep it moving, then let's make sure we're doing that on both sides.
Um very well said.
I mean, and very diplomatic for you.
By the way, did you ever tell Pastor what's his name again?
Pastor Tim.
Pastor Tim, um, that you want to be part of the church band.
I don't want to be part of the church band.
Why don't but but I have amazing people?
I want you to try it, and I think that you should to I think you'd be great at it.
Maybe.
We'll see.
I why don't you just give it one shot?
I got I gotta get closer to God and learn to love like love my liberal neighbor first.
You know?
I'm still working on that.
Working on my love of liberal neighbors.
There's no there's not gonna be a lot of hope for the love your liberal neighbor thing.
I don't I I just don't see it.
Uh anyway.
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Uh when we come back, by the way, Jim Gray uh talked to Tom Brady, announced his retirement.
He'll tell us what the conversation went like.
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