Sean Hannity Show - The Witch-hunt Continues - December 27th, Hour 1

Dec. 27, 2021 - Sean Hannity Show

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The Witch-hunt Continues - December 27th, Hour 1

Jeffrey Lord, hose of the "Word of the Lord" podcast fills in for the vacationing Sean Hannity. Lord sits down with Congressman Andy Biggs to discuss the January 6th investigation and just how much unfair pressure former White House Chief-of-Staff Mark Meadows is under. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	Hello, America.
	This is the Sean Hannity Show.
	And as you can instantly tell, I am not Sean Hannity.
	Sean is finishing up an extremely well deserved Christmas vacation and will return after New Year's, tanned, rested, and ready to go for the craziness of 2022 that lies ahead.
	Oh boy.
	I am Jeffrey Lord of the podcast The Word of the Lord and my website, the Jeffrey Lord.com.
	I'm also a contributing editor of the American Spectator and a columnist for Newsbusters, the great media research center site that covers the liberal media.
	We are going to have some great guests today, including Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs, James O'Keefe of Project Veritas, who has scored a terrific uh Christmas Eve victory when a New York State judge ordered the New York Times to return internal Project Veritas documents.
	He's also got another scoop here that is just stunning that we're going to talk to James about.
	But first, oh, oh, wait, wait.
	First, there's there's somebody.
	So first of all, I was gonna say, where's my first of all?
	I don't know what this first first, or as my mother likes to say.
	How did he get in the building?
	I'll tell you, uh they just let anybody in these days.
	You know, New York is very suspect, and now it's confirmed.
	I'm like, how did you get in?
	Manage all the way up.
	They want they not only wanted my vax card, my driver's license, they wanted me to go back to Massachusetts and get my um birth birth certificate, get my social security, you know, all of this sort of thing.
	And then they shrugged and said, that's what Linda said.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They're like, oh, yeah, we know her.
	Yeah.
	Everybody's very familiar with her.
	She's so friendly when she comes.
	Well, we do really have a great show today, and uh thank you for the opportunity.
	And Sean, and I know everybody misses Sean, but uh we're gonna be unbelievably crazy next year with 2022, and I think it's gonna be a very good year, as we learned uh a little bit about in Virginia the other week.
	So uh on we go, and it will be uh after New Year's uh in very short order, and Sean will be back.
	So thank you, Linda.
	And now let's let me just uh start out by talking about the news that emerged as Christmas Eve Eve dawned last week.
	That news, as reported by Fox, was that Pennsylvania Republican Congressman Scott Perry announced that he was refusing to appear before the January 6th committee.
	Congressman Perry is chairman of the House Freedom Caucus and full disclosure, my own Congressman, where he does a fabulous job representing his constituents of the 10th Pennsylvania District.
	Congressman Perry's refusal to cooperate is a big deal because unlike former Trump aid Steve Bannon and ex-Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, Scott Perry is a sitting member of Congress.
	And that makes a big deal.
	The idea that the House of Representatives would even think of issuing a subpoena to one of its own members has simply not been done before.
	But if, in fact, I would suggest the sham that is the January 6th Committee does in fact issue a subpoena to Congressman Perry, then Katie Bar the door.
	This Would instantly, instantly and correctly lead to Republican demands, I would believe, that the committee subpoena not only Speaker Nancy Pelosi, but committee member and Democrat Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskin.
	Why?
	Nancy Pelosi as Speaker and Jamie Raskin as a member not only of the January 6th Committee, but he is the senior Democrat on the House Administration Committee.
	They both have a direct responsibility for the security of the Capitol building and the surrounding capital complex.
	On the face of it, neither did their job of securing the Capitol.
	Thus, if a subpoena is issued for Congressman Perry, that should open the door for Republican demands to know what Pelosi and Raskin and their staffs knew about what would and did happen on January 6th, and when did they know it and most importantly, what did they do about it?
	In fact, the House Administration Committee, on which Raskin serves, specifically say this, says this about its responsibilities.
	And I'm quoting directly from their description of their responsibilities.
	Quote, another major preoccupation since the 2001 terrorist attacks and Capitol Hill anthrax attacks has been improving security on the House side of the complex while maintaining a high level of accessibility for citizens.
	In its role as overseer of house security, the committee has worked closely with the Capitol Police.
	One of the committee's first challenges was to coordinate resources to secure the campus, facilitate evacuations when necessary, and suggest alternate locations for Congress to meet.
	Along with providing updated communications equipment to members and staff, the committee also provided congressional offices with a campus wide network for the announcement of emergency broadcasts, unquote.
	You got all that?
	That's bureaucratic language for the speaker and Mr. Raskin and others are in charge of Capitol Security.
	So the obvious question is, what did Pelosi and Raskin do?
	If they, as required, worked closely with the Capitol Police, what specifically did they do to secure the Capitol?
	And what did they not do?
	Every single record of Pelosi and Raskins should be subpoenaed if we're going to go down this road, just as they are demanding of the committee's Republican targets, their own text, emails, phone records, and those of their staff should be requested.
	According to Politico, the January 6th Committee has notified nearly three dozen companies, communication companies, including Verizon, T-Mobile, Gab, Discord, and Twitter, to preserve the records of those they are investigating.
	That list of those they are investigating should now be expanded to include Pelosi and Raskin.
	And for that matter, every member of the January 6th Committee itself to see what they were saying during the run-up to all of this.
	As Sean has often said, the tip of that, the tip off that the January 6th Committee was going to be a sham, a political witch hunt, was when Speaker Pelosi violated the norms of the House by denying Republican leader Kevin McCarthy his two picks for the Republican seats on the committee.
	Leader McCarthy designated Ohio's Congressman Jim Jordan and Indiana's Jim Banks.
	Terrific members both.
	Pelosi refused the appointments.
	Both men have had the audacity to collection to question Pelosi's actions.
	And so she went out of her way to select Republican representatives, and I put Republican in quotes, representatives Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinser of Illinois, both, not coincidentally, staunch never Trumpers.
	Shocking.
	Not.
	In other words, the January 6th Committee and its members are the personification of the Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who demanded sentence first, verdict afterwards.
	Decades ago, the Austrian economist Ludwig von Mis, in his classic Socialism and Economic and Sociological Analysis, said those of who said this of those who like Pelosi and her lynch mob that is the January 6th Committee, Quote, they are utterly intolerant zealots.
	They entirely disregard the possibility that there could arise with disagreement with regard to the question of what is right and expedient and what is not.
	They advocate advocate enlightened depotism, convinced that the enlightened despot will in every detail comply with their own opinion.
	They are utterly intolerant and are not prepared to allow any discussion.
	Every advocate of the left is a potential dictator.
	What he, and I would add today, she plans is to deprive all other men of all their rights and to establish his or her own friends, unrestricted omnipotence, unquote.
	That is exactly a description of the January 6th Committee.
	Its members and its real leader, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the talk of subpoenaing sitting Congressman Scott Perry, but not Pelosi herself, is the proof of this rancid political pudding.
	Now let's talk about one other thing here that we're going to get into later today.
	The liberal media, as the late comedian Joan Rivers used to say, can we talk?
	As you know, our friend Sean Hannity refers frequently to what he calls the media mob, giving chapter and verse to illustrate that journalism is dead.
	Sean is exactly right.
	And what always amazes me is that the mob in the media never seems to realize that the most damage they cause is to themselves and their own credibility.
	Along these lines, I asked this question the other day in a newsbusters column.
	Question, what do Trump Russia collusion, Covington, Kentucky high schooler Nicholas Sandman, the BLM riots of 2020, January 6th, and Kyle Rittenhouse all have in common.
	Answer all were presented to the American people by the mainstream media through the lens of a liberal narrative.
	Long gone was news presented in the fashion of that once famous line from the old dragnet TV show where Sergeant Joe Friday, inquiring into a crime, says to a witness, just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.
	In today's media world, that line has been replaced by just the liberal narrative, man, just the liberal narrative.
	Thus it is that the liberal narrative, and we're going to have a conversation about this in a bit with our friend Sean Spicer.
	Thus it is that the liberal narrative, not the facts, dictated that President Trump must be portrayed as having colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election, when in fact it wasn't a fact at all.
	It was, in fact, Hillary Clinton's campaign that was paying for the infamous dossier.
	Thus it was that all those riots in 2020 that resulted in death, looting, burning, and destruction, were really described as mostly peaceful, quote unquote.
	Thus it was that perfectly decent high schoolers Sandman and Rittenhouse had to be portrayed falsely as racist brats.
	And but of course, the riot by a relative handful of out of control protesters and a massive and peaceful crowd of tens of thousands at the Capitol on January 6th had to be portrayed as a quote insurrection, unquote, with the U.S. government itself supposedly hanging by a thread, with a coup attempt incited by President Trump under the way.
	Wow, talk about the big lie.
	The results of all this garbage is that the American people, in true show me mood, began to realize they were not being given just the facts, journalism in any given situation, but rather they were being fed liberal narratives masquerading as facts, or as the shorthand became, fake news.
	And as that realization set in, liberal media credibility took one self-inflicted hit after another.
	The audience for just the facts news from Fox, Newsmax, One America News grew and grew and grew, as did their audience and their ratings.
	At this point, the quote mainstream media, unquote, has done so much self-inflicted damage to itself that one can only wonder if they will literally survive, much less thrive again.
	Pole after poll in the last couple years, As reported by outlets like the Knight Foundation and Gallup poll, or over there in the Western Journal or a Morning Consult poll have headlines like this.
	Most Americans say they have lost trust in the media.
	News media credibility rating falls to a new low.
	Poll shows number of Americans with no trust in mass media has hit an all-time high.
	Then there are the endless headlines that are network specific, like these.
	These are the headlines of plenty that are out you can find out there in Google land.
	And not to be forgotten are the seemingly endless number that are media outlet specific, most frequently CNN.
	Headlines like these.
	CNN's ratings are an unfixable disaster.
	CNN's 68% in prime time as Fox News Channel crushes competition in quarter two cable news ratings.
	Biggest loser, CNN's October ratings collapse to 661,000 primetime viewers.
	And oh yes, don't forget MM MSNBC, as here.
	MSNBC is in more trouble than CNN.
	The seemingly never asked question is why?
	Because in fact, the answer as to why millions of Americans are abandoning the media mob could not be more crystal clear.
	The American people have begun to realize they were not being given just the facts, journalism, in any given situation.
	But rather they were being fed liberal narratives masquerading as facts.
	Or again, as the shorthand became fake news.
	And as that realization set in, liberal media credibility took one self-inflicted hit after another.
	The audience for just the facts news from Fox, Newsmax, One America News grew and grew and grew, as did their respective audiences and their ratings.
	At this point, the mainstream media has done so much self-inflicted damage to itself that one can only wonder if they will literally survive, much less thrive again.
	So stay tuned and we will find out.
	And you know, there's a reason why they hated former President Trump so much because he called him out all the time.
	I heard him do that as early as 2013 when I first met him.
	And uh he kept it up while he was candidate and president.
	So I will be back with more of the Sean Hannity in just a minute.
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	Hello, America.
	This is Jeffrey Lord of the Word of the Lord Podcast and the Jeffreylord.com sitting in for our friend Sean.
	I hope you will uh give us a buzz at 800 941 Sean.
	That's S-E-A-N 800-941-7326.
	In other words, all right, fine.
	Let's uh move on to our first guest.
	That would be Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs.
	Uh Congressman Biggs is a member not only from Arizona, but he has been a uh terrific member of the Freedom Caucus, of which my own Congressman Scott Perry is now the chairman.
	Um Congressman, welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
	Thanks, Jeff.
	Good to be with you.
	Good to be with you.
	And I'm so glad, You know, uh before I knew you were going to be a guest, I wrote my own monologue on what they're trying to do with Scott Perry and subpoenas, and I was really glad to see that you have opposed recommending contempt of Congress charge uh against Mark Meadows, whom I've also met along the path.
	Um this committee is out of control here.
	Uh give me your give us your thoughts here on where you're going with this and why.
	Well, first of all, um this is a it's a witch hunt.
	They're looking around trying to uh bring uh charges.
	Ultimately they would like to bring charges against Donald Trump.
	This is like a third impeachment.
	But they want to take down, yeah, Jeff, they want to take down everybody that was associated with him, supported him, worked for him, was outspoken in his defense.
	And um so they're going after uh Scott uh Perry, uh Congressman Perry, because they want to they they want to get into his personal records, they want to get a Mark Meadow's personal records.
	They're they want to get into the guy who uh signed the the uh the permit for the for the one of the January 6th rallies.
	They want to get into his record.
	This is just a witch hunt, they want to go everywhere, and the worst kept secret is that they want to somehow refer Donald Trump over to DOJ for criminal charges.
	Well, that is what they're about.
	I I have never seen anything.
	I had uh the privilege with my some of my colleagues from the American Spectator uh of being in the Oval Office, and I think it was November of 1919 to chat with President Trump.
	And uh, you know, I was reminiscing a little bit about having worked there for President Reagan.
	And I said to President Trump at the time, I thought things were bad when they went after Reagan.
	I said, I have never seen anything like this.
	This is really bad.
	This is about uh destroying uh, you know, the the the Trump first it was the Trump candidacy, then the Trump presidency, uh, then it's his businesses.
	I I mean the fact that he is not a part of the Washington swamp just infuriates these people and they can't abide it.
	And and this has become very, very dangerous, I think.
	Yeah, Jeff, you you you touched on something that is so critical that uh Donald Trump was elected by the people in 2016 and probably in 2020, to come in and shake up the swamp, the elite, the establishment.
	And and that and the establishment is kind of a bipartisan arrangement of power sharing at some at some point, if you will.
	Um and it spreads the the power um and they take turns, but they don't want to disrupt it.
	They don't they they don't want the size of government rained in.
	Uh they are they're all making money on this, they all get power and aggrandizement on this.
	And Donald Trump shook it shook it up.
	And so they tried to wreck the campaign, as you say.
	But right now, what they want to do is they want to make sure that Donald Trump, nor anyone who supports him or is like him in any way.
	You know, whether it's they're they're Donald Trump without the mean tweets or whatever, they want to make sure nobody Donald Trump or anybody like him ever runs for office again.
	Well, that's that's right.
	And that's why I think this is exceptionally dangerous.
	Um I I just remember how uh a few days after he was inaugurated in 2017, there was an article on the front page of the Washington Post about I mean, I couldn't believe this as I was reading this.
	Washington bureaucrats, and they named the agencies that they were in, were working with uh Obama, former Obama staffers to find ways to undermine the Trump presidency.
	Uh I I I uh it to this day this leaves me virtually speechless when you hear this.
	But there is such animosity, and and Congressman, I worked for uh quite a while in Washington.
	I worked for uh I don't know if you remember Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania, who was my boss, and I started out down there with him as his press secretary and led director and all of this, and went over to the Senate eventually for Senator Hines, and then into the Reagan White House, and then for Jack Kemp.
	I I just have never seen this level of antipathy towards a president.
	And uh it it really uh it worries me because it's as if these people think, as if, or they do think, that they are a ruling class and that all the rest of us, which is to say, in your case, all of your constituents who get up in the morning and go to work and do a day's you know, work and and take care of their families and all this, as if they're some sort of inferior being, or as Hillary Clinton famously said, the deplorables.
	This has become as it were, a class issue almost.
	And I I think it's really dangerous because what's at stake here, they want complete and total power.
	And that is very, very dangerous.
	Yeah.
	Jeff, I'll tell you, I I I I with your experience, you you recognize this, but this is uh a continuation of centralization of power away from the states and into Washington DC.
	And then as you know, the way uh even Congress works, uh most of the power resides in the the top two uh leaders uh in each party in both and both the Senate and the House.
	So they've got masses, massive amounts of of power there.
	And then you have the bureaucracy.
	And and and what we've seen in the past uh is bure bureaucrats would slow walk and try to prevent policies they disagreed with from getting through.
	But what we saw with Trump is an overt attempt to undermine him and and to prevent anything uh from his agenda from coming through.
	Well, that's right.
	And you know, th they may not like the agenda, but they didn't elect him.
	Um you know, I mean, as I was as the whole thing and Sean did a fabulous job unraveling all of the deep state shenanigans with uh the with uh James Comey and the FBI and the CIA and uh he had on, you know, John Solomon and some of these other uh great investigative journalists, and they really put concentrated effort because nobody else was doing it.
	And and it really is disturbing uh when when you would see all this and you'd realize that some unelected FBI official is sitting there saying that he's gonna uh uh figure out how to stop uh the election of a presidential candidate he doesn't like.
	Um I don't know if you've ever seen this, uh Congressman.
	When I was a kid, the the best seller of the day was a novel called political novel called Seven Days in May, which was made into a hit movie with Bert Lancaster and Kirk Douglas and the Hollywood A listers of the day, and it was all about a military attempt to overthrow a president.
	And I I listened to these things that I've we have heard in the last uh year or so or more, and wow.
	I mean, I think uh this is far outstripping of fictional piece of work that w in the day was a bestseller in a hit movie.
	I mean, this is this is no kidding around stuff.
	Yeah, I uh Jeff, when you when you put it that way, people need to r realize we saw under Obama the weaponization of the IRS, for instance, against uh conservative organizations.
	But right now what's weaponized is every agency in the federal government.
	Now you have no Biden has no control over his cabinet.
	His cabinet are a bunch of indiv individual fistums right now.
	Right.
	And also the bureaucracies that are attended to those, they're independent of effectively of the secretaries, and they are weaponized.
	And so you've got DOJ and all the police state apparatus, you've got homeland security, you've got you've got Treasury, you've got uh all of these areas being weaponized against American citizens.
	You've got the abuse of the Patriot Act uh against American citizens.
	You've got the Inspector General uh uh who's independent coming in and saying, yeah, you you have you've we saw fraud in a FISA uh warrant app, we've seen misuse of the PISA, uh that's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act uh courts.
	Those courts are are intended to go after foreign spies.
	That's what they're supposed to be, but they are all coming around against us.
	We have created this apparatus that has been turned upon American citizens.
	And uh right now, uh, you know, you've got you've got a number of members of Congress who want to uh exacerbate that problem, get more power and control, and go after um President Trump, not just President Trump, but anybody as I say that was associated with them.
	That's why you're going after Mark Meadows and Steve Bannon, whoever else they've got listed.
	If you're a member of Congress, they want to go after us.
	They're going after Scott Congressman Scott Perry, who's gonna replace him as chairman of of the uh House Freedom Caucus.
	That is what's going on, and it is in this tidal wave of uh of abusive acts on the part of people who are unelected And unaccountable to the American people as well.
	And it is it's dangerous to the Republic.
	One of the things that concerns me in the Biden era is well, uh we have a cut, I think, of uh uh President Biden appearing to forget uh the defense secretary's name.
	Let me see if we can just hang on a second and listen to this.
	I want to thank all of our distinguished guests that are here today.
	The chairman of the joint chiefs, the the secretary of the uh of the uh um secretary Austin.
	Wow.
	Um what is what does one say about this?
	I mean, I have to say uh two things, two relevant factors for my own life.
	One, I took care of my uh mom in her nineties when she slowly glided down into dementia, and it happened like that.
	Uh periodically she wouldn't know where she was.
	Sometimes she she'd forgot who I was, and I'm her only child or only son.
	And the other thing is in in the Reagan White House, I learned the importance of staff and a good staff for a good president.
	But wow, if you've got a president who's suffering from the first problem, uh I would like to know who was really making the decisions uh when it comes to anything else in the White House, whether it's I mean it could be the vaccines, it could be you name it.
	Uh I mean I'm beginning to think this is a real problem.
	And worse, we've got all these foreign adversaries that are watching President Biden every single minute, and I think they're taking advantage of it.
	Well, well, Jeff, if I if I can put two points to this.
	Number one, it is as you say national security threat, because we have very real uh adversaries in the world today, and they are they're taking advantage of the cognitive decline of of Joe Biden.
	But but the but the 25th amendment, people keep saying, oh, but they should enact it.
	They will never the the cabinet is the one who initiates that, and they will never in initiate that because uh with President Biden wandering around the White House not knowing where he is and who he's with, what you get is you get the if you're Lloyd Austin,
	now you have your uh a tremendous amount of power over the Department of Defense, because you really have no one who's capable of interpreting your um uh you know, your acts and and and and putting any kind of constraints on them.
	Same with Treasury or or labor or anywhere else.
	And so they will never do that.
	That's a flaw in the 25th Amendment because it actually incentivizes dishonest or disreputable um people who may be sitting in i in the cabinet from ever bringing uh that to bear, disclosing it to the American public so we can make uh uh change and and get a president who is capable of leading us.
	And we have one right now who is incapable of leading this country, and I that's why something like seventy percent or more of Americans think he's doing a terrible job.
	Well, that's right.
	Um, and as I've often said to people, well, uh all you have to do is go to the gas station.
	All you have to do is go to the grocery store and you can see you know what the results are of uh his policies or his decisions.
	And the thing that that does worry me, and uh, I'm sure you know the story of Woodrow Wilson having a stroke and uh his his wife and his private secretary, uh a guy named Joe Tumulty, who was a Wilson loyalist from his days as governor, and uh his private physician basically closed a ring around him, and the doctor said to Mrs. Wilson, don't bring him any decisions because it'll it'll you know worsen his physical situation.
	So she made the decisions.
	I'd like to know where are these people uh right now, and we're we're coming up to the end of a minute here, so uh I just your thoughts on this.
	Well, I look at some Obama holdovers, I look at the his chief of staff Ron Claim, I I think he wields a tremendous amount of decision-making authority.
	And then as I say, um unless it's a some kind of centralized decision that has to be made, uh it's all it's it's all independent separate fitums of the of the cabinet officials.
	And and uh that's my perception.
	I I you know I I don't know that that's a hundred percent accurate, but it certainly seems to be the way administration is being managed.
	Congressman Biggs, thank you very much for being here today.
	We will definitely follow you and good luck.
	Thanks, Jeff.
	This is Jeff Lord with the Word of the Lord Podcast and the Sean Hannity Show.
	We will be right back.
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	Welcome back, everybody.
	This is Jeffrey Lord of the Word of the Lord Podcast and the Jeffreylord.com.
	I am filling in for our friend Sean Hannity, who will be back after the new year, taking a long and deserved Christmas vacation, and which, as I said, he will be coming back tanned, rested and ready.
	We are going to uh have our next as our next guest, James O'Keefe of Project Veritas, and what a stunning amount of work James has done.
	Uh there were some things I'm prepared to talk to him about, but I've learned something else since we've uh we're getting ready to go on the air, and he will uh discuss this with us.
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