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The Covid Recession - December 16th, Hour 2
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Uh and we should really focus on the actual bill everybody's uh going to vote on and considering in Congress right now.
There have been some recent polls that show that quite a few Americans have some questions about the president's current mental fitness.
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Our final show now before the Christmas, my long Christmas break.
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And I'm more than optimistic about what kind of year we're going to have next year, especially politically.
Um, not good for the poor in the middle class.
Uh, you look at the issue of inflation alone, now a 39-year high.
Even even top Obama economists are saying, Joe, what are you doing?
This is a disaster.
Biden's number on inflation, 28% approval rating.
A new Fox Business poll came out.
Uh, pretty much the same, the same numbers that we see.
You know, nearly 70% of people say inflation has caused them financial hardship.
I even think my friend Austin Goolsby, professor of Chicago's uh Booth School of Economics, is gonna agree with me.
Joe Biden's economic policies are nothing but an unmitigated disaster.
Um, by the way, Merry Christmas, happy holidays.
Good to hear your voice, sir.
How are you?
Oh man, I tried to crank call you again, and they put me right through to the studio.
You know, I I hate the fact that I like you so much personally because it's so annoying.
You hate that you gave me that football in which it says in bold letters, you're writing, you are a great American.
Well, just because you're a crazy liberal that was on the Council of Economic Advisors for Obama.
By the way, did you did you ever think the day would come I'd be quoting Obama economic advisors as a source?
I told you you would.
I said because we in the Obama years, you started fondly quoting Bill Clinton.
And I said, There's gonna be a day, Obama's gonna be out of office, and you're not gonna be able to do that.
Obama was there.
No, look, listen, Clinton at least, the era of big government is over, the end of welfare as we know it.
That's what I'm saying.
In the moment you talk a big game, but then if it's a when he changed, I changed my opinion.
Okay, he's he got a message that was loud and clear, and Joe's about to get his message in November.
And he'll uh but I don't think Joe has the capacity to change.
I don't even think he knows what day it is.
No, that's not true.
Look, I think you're right.
The midterm is always a tough election for the incumbent president uh that that first midterm.
It was for Obama, it was for Trump.
You know, it definitely was for Clinton.
Um so uh you you you may be right about that.
But uh but it's worth remembering.
And who do you agree with?
Warren Summers or Joe Biden.
Is Joe Biden's policies on energy and the economy hurting the country's economy?
No.
Overall, there are dark there's there's a downside.
The inflation is the downside, but you didn't mention that the new unemployment claims are the lowest in fifty years.
We've got it not be.
Any new president ever, the GDP growth rate of the economy might be six or even seven percent at an annual rate.
Right, but let's let's let's say what you're saying is a good thing.
As well as a negative.
All of that is wiped out, and then some by the average impact of Biden inflation caused by Biden's own policies.
Now you and I both know.
No, no, and no.
All of those are no difference.
This is a lot of people.
Was it a good thing for our national security?
Was it a good thing economically and for the price of energy, the lifeblood of the world's economy that Donald Trump was the first president in seventy-five years to make us not only energy independent, but a net exporter of energy.
Was that a good thing?
Uh yeah, overall it was good.
Uh, he didn't do it, as you know.
Our production was increasing steadily.
No, he opened up he he opened up drilling for for energy companies, and Joe Biden closed them down.
Joe Biden closed the Keystone XO pipeline.
Well, he did give a waiver to Vladimir.
I gotta give him credit for that.
He's helping make Russia and Vladimir Vladimir Putin rich again.
Um Keystone pipeline is not about energy independent.
It's about it is so about the lifeblood of our economy is energy.
Energy is defined as oil, gas, and coal.
Those are forms of energy.
I agree with that.
I get an A plus.
I'm gonna give you we we've upped the we've upped your grade substantially.
Okay, so now here's what if I want to if I was going to end inflation.
Now you heard the Fed.
Yes.
They're talking about three years now, uh three three rate increases next year in interest rates.
The Fed is obviously very nervous about inflation.
They want to get inflation under control.
I don't think they're gonna be able to.
The single best way we can get inflation under control and lower the cost of everything would be to go back to the Trump policies of energy independence, open up ANWAR, stop punishing energy companies, oil companies, uh that are involved in drilling and exploration, reopen and keep building the Keystone XL pipeline, remove the waiver you gave Vladimir Putin and become a net exporter of energy again.
I think that would that would help inflation a lot.
Am I wrong?
I think you're wrong.
Um I think the when the Fed looks at inflation, they look at what they call core inflation, and they're not even counting energy prices in their calculations of inflation.
On energy, the production from the U.S. is only one s small component of world energy production.
It's a world commodity.
You've seen the price of oil now coming down about 20% from its peak.
Hopefully for the short run, that will continue and Joe Biden artificially reduced the world supply.
And now he's now he's begging.
He's begged OPEC over five times.
He's begging Russia to increase production.
Now supposedly his reason for not drilling here is predicated on his cultish religion uh madness uh climate change.
Can you tell me if it's a if it makes a difference to planet Earth, Mother Earth to speak in more liberal terms, you'll understand.
If we drill in the Mid East or Russia or in the US, it doesn't make any sense, does it?
I don't think I think the burning of fossil fuels is a worldwide phenomenon if that's what the point is nobody else is doing under Donald Trump we had the low and lowest carbon munitions in history in the last fifty years.
Well you're talking about when the economy collapsed?
No, I'm talking no, I'm talking about I'm talking about in the four years Donald Trump was president.
There weren't a lot of people.
We reduced carbon emissions.
You think China gives a flying rip about the Paris Accords?
No, they're they're they're a developing nation.
They don't even pay anything.
Next to nothing.
Take your thing with the Keystone pipeline.
The Keystone pipeline is not for American oil.
That's Canadian oil.
It will allow the Canadians to get a higher price for their oil by shipping it through the United States.
Joe has now put an extra tax on exploration for energy.
Joe closed down Anwar.
Joe is closing down other pipelines.
Joe is now demonizing the energy sector as if they're the big enemy while simultaneously begging OPEC and Russia.
Does that make sense to you?
Is what is your view that's what's influencing the world price of oil?
It's not.
Yeah, when you reduce when the United States reduces its supply on the world market by 40%, yeah.
Because the demand remains constant.
So of course, supply and demand professor dictators and dictate the price.
When you decrease the supply and the demand remains the same, you're gonna pay more.
When the price of oil collapses, as it did, production on marginal wells like those in higher cost areas like the Permian Basin where my mom is in Texas.
Those d those wells I bet your mom is ashamed to call you her son.
I'm kidding.
I'm joking.
All right, let me I love your mom.
All right, here's a question.
Do you think Joe Biden is cognitively struggling?
No.
Absolutely.
No?
No.
Okay, let me play you some Joe Joe Biden moments, and then you tell me that this guy's some Donald Trump moments, too.
Uh no, you can't find anything similar because I interviewed Donald Trump and he'll go 45 minutes straight with and be able to communicate with you.
Joe Biden doesn't seem capable of it.
Come on, Austin, be honest here.
Do you really not see his he's got always had that like stick his foot in his mouth kind of uh uh disease.
Okay.
I can play you Joe Biden in 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020 and 2021.
It's not the same guy, Austin.
He's gone.
He sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of Wisconsin?
We sent millions of dollars.
Play the radio.
Make sure the television excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night.
The phone.
Make sure the kids hear words.
Now they got a new plan.
Trust me, it's not gonna cost you any more.
Folks, follow your instincts on this one.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
Oh, men and women created by the Go you know the you know the thing.
Really?
You want to defend that Austin?
You don't think that I can pull you out five however many those were of Trump slurring his words, saying we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men and women are created equal, endowed by the thing.
The thing, oh you know the thing.
You don't think that Donald Trump said things like that?
No.
Donald Trump is not a cognitive mess.
This guy is so obviously weak and frail and such a cognitive mess.
And you know what?
I know Deep down in your heart, you know I'm right.
You just don't have the courage to admit it.
And I know you know how dangerous it is.
Vladimir sees it, a hostile actor.
President Chi sees it.
The mullahs in Iran see it.
Kim Jong-un sees it, and that's why we see hostilities growing all around the world.
Why did they take advantage of us for four years?
Because they were scared.
They were scared Adam Shiffless that Donald Trump would bomb the crap out of him.
They were it was like sending them love letters to the North Koreans.
Excuse me.
We got the best trade deal with China that we ever got.
We got a new trade deal with Canada, new trade deal with Mexico, a new trade deal with Japan, the new tree trade deal with our European partners.
And prior to COVID, Donald Trump had the lowest unemployment rate for every demographic group in the country ever hit in the history of the country.
Then he blew it.
He inherited a 4.7% unemployment rate.
No, this is you're forgetting one mitigating factor.
It's called the worst pandemic.
It's called COVID.
He's the only president in ask you a question.
Since we have had the data to lost jobs over the course of president.
Who did we lose more lives to COVID under?
Biden or Trump?
Uh I assume.
I mean, it's growing exponentially, so how could it not be Biden?
Okay.
So we can use we can use COVID as an excuse for Biden's economy.
Now he inherited three vaccines and monoclonal antibodies.
Trump had to make all that happen.
Who did a better job with with on every issue now in every poll?
Trump is up by double digits.
But wait, are you honestly are you honestly arguing that you think Donald Trump handled the COVID disaster well?
Uh warp speed, monoclonal antibodies, three vaccines.
Uh yeah, I think he did extraordinarily well.
When he announced that it was gonna go away by miracle, that you should start.
He was listening to the great Dr. Fauci.
That I would I would say that was a mistake.
We now know Dr. Fauci should have been fired, and that Fauci lied as it relates to the origins of the COVID virus.
Quick break more with Austin Goolsby as we fight about the economy straight ahead.
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All right, more with Austin Goolsbee, a professor at Chicago's Booth School of Economics, Anyway, we're not Agreeing on anything.
Let me read, let me go back to this poll, the Fox Business poll.
Eight in ten Americans very concerned about inflation.
Sixty-seven percent are facing hardship because of Joe's inflation and rising prices.
Seventy-five percent say government spending and regulations are responsible for the inflation.
Um Joe Biden is underwater now.
Average poll number is about 36.
Kamel is even worse at 28.
So on every issue when compared to Donald Trump, Donald Trump usually beats Biden by double digits.
So you can sit there with all the opinions you want, but that's not what the public feels.
Let's explore this, because I'm looking here at the average of all the polls that's on 538.
And it is true that Biden has definitely slipped, and he has a net favorability of minus 7.5%.
He's underwater.
And at this exact date in the Trump administration, Donald Trump was underwater by 21%.
There's no sense in which Donald Trump at this comparable point in his presidency.
You know what I need to do?
We have to end this because of the constraint.
I need to teach your class because you're indoctrinating these kids at the Booth School of Economics in Chicago.
I need to fly to Chicago and talk to your students and teach them about economics 101.
I I I don't know what you would teach them, but I would welcome having you to Chicago.
We would probably go to a Bears game, too.
I want to I want a Chicago hot dog.
The president does.
I love you, but you're absolutely out of your mind.
You'll defend anything.
By the way, I don't even know if Joe can make three more years.
He's in such bad shape.
Sean, we have the lowest new unemployment claims in a half century.
Okay, we have the highest inflation numbers since 1982, Austin.
Highest inflation in China.
Okay, you got an excuse for everything, but in the industrialized world, we have the highest increase.
The United States and Iceland.
Anyway, I got a roll.
Good to talk to you.
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Um so there's this raises medical ethics.
I've always been a believer in the right to choose, something that Donald Trump passed when he was president.
In other words, let's say you're fighting cancer and and you're you they've exhausted at the hospital, every treatment, uh, experimental medicine that they have, but you hear about this might be working and you want to try something else.
Right to try.
This issue now has come up as it relates to COVID 19.
Now, I've been very, very clear where I stand on COVID.
I'm telling everybody to take this thing seriously.
I've seen the worst of it.
I'm telling all of you to research and learn as much as you possibly can about COVID, about the vaccines, about therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies, all these things that we talked about so often.
And I've I've dealt with this all day today.
The first thing I say to people that tell me what, you know, because they hear it, they know I'm talking about it on the radio a lot.
What is that thing you say to ask the doctor?
What should I ask my doctor?
I said, if whether you're vaccinated or unvaccinated, my advice, ask your doctor immediately about monoclonal antibodies.
That has been, you know, taken early.
That has been the treatment of choice.
Uh I've know of no case where anybody vaxed or unvaxxed that got monoclonal antibodies that had anything but great results taken early.
There's numerous studies about HCQ, hydroxychloroquine, if taken early, mitigate some symptoms.
You know, starting with the the Henry uh Ford hospital.
And there's numerous other studies that have shown taken early, it can mitigate some of the symptoms.
Um I know that the a lot of people have talked about ivermectin.
I know far less about that than any others.
I've not seen a study on it.
I do know that their manufacturer Merck is saying that they don't recommend people take it for COVID just to be upfront and clear.
But that's not the issue with the case of a woman named Kathy uh Davies.
She's struggling with COVID.
Because her doctor wanted to prescribe ivermectin.
Chris Davies and his father Donald have been fighting for their mother and their and wife and the right to try it as a treatment at a hospital in Virginia for the past few weeks.
The hospital where apparently Chris the father works he happens to be a a radiology technology has been put through a series of legal hoops seemingly designed to block the treatment.
Anyway ultimately this was reported in the Daily Wire she did in fact get the treatment after the hospital was found in contempt of court for barring the administration of the medicine that the doctor wanted to give her okay so it raises medical ethical issues.
I'm not giving out medical advice on what people should take.
My advice stays the same talk to your doctor.
Anyway Chris Davies is with us uh we're talking about his mom um and he and his father have been fighting for the right now how first of all how is your mom doing well she's uh actually uh doing somewhat poorly right now I'm sorry to hear that yeah yeah thank you for that when when was she first diagnosed?
She was uh diagnosed uh when we called the ambulance to get the hospital on the October 9th she was sick maybe a week and a half before that.
Okay so this is this goes all the way back to October?
Yeah we started getting sick at the very end of September and it's been uh well months months with this uh thing that went battling did she take did she ever get monoclonal antibodies?
Well, that was a question that we asked.
Apparently, the guidelines say that if someone is below 90% saturation in the blood, that they are not a candidate for monocloidal.
So mom was really sick out of all of us, the four of us in the household that got it.
She really got hit hard from the beginning.
And she was actually desaturating in the high 80s before going to the hospital.
So there was something that was discussed, but ultimately it was not something.
See, the doctors that I have the most respect for, and this is now I'm speaking from my own personal experience and opinion, all believe that you must act immediately.
And this is what their logic is, and I'm giving this to you in layman's terms, so forgive me.
And it's basically that, okay, if you wait until your oxygen level drops, By the time you get to that point, the damage to the lawn lungs you know COVID lung they call it or covet pneumonia kicks in and the damage is done by the time you're but by the time your oxygen levels are low.
And all those doctors that I have talked to recommend immediately upon diagnosis to begin now their regimen for example starts with monoclonal antibodies that's what they recommend.
I have found anecdotally that everybody that I know either that has a breakthrough case or they're not vaccinated that got monoclonal antibodies within the first 48 hours does great um but that was not an option for your mom.
Yeah I mean you know when you're when you're sick at home you don't really have all the uh resources that you would like to have like we we ended up buying a pulse ox you know the little thing you put on your finger to check for the oxygen saturation and by the time we got that uh she was already desaturating to the point where it was below ninety and by the way that that that that's how a lot of states have been treating it.
Uh if you get a temperature take two Tylenols and uh if your oxygen goes below 90 go to the emergency room.
But but the problem with that kind of medicine it's not proactive at all it's reactive and by the time you get to the hospital your saturation oxygen levels are low, the damage has been done.
I don't like that.
For me, that's that that's that's not good medicine to me.
Yeah, yeah, and we had to go out of our way to get what we needed, and by the time we had any kind of semblance of uh knowing what was going on, it was already too late for the monocoloidal for mom.
I think they stopped giving it after day seven, eight, or nine or ten somewhere in there because it that's shown not to be effective.
It has to happen immediately, which goes which it seems contradictory to what they told you.
Is your mom on a vent?
She's on a ventilator, yes.
Yeah.
And and she's been on how many days now?
Day 44 on the uh ventilator today.
And how is she doing on it?
Well, um, you know, uh with this legal battle, we kind of wish we uh uh we could have gotten ivermectin sooner.
Um I understand, you know, I want to be fair to all parties.
I understand the hospital wanted to argue their point, but uh you know, it really shouldn't have gone to this point.
Uh you know, we have uh laws in the book for right to try, and that should have been it when I asked for the doctor, but that's not how it went.
And how do you doctor just say no, or did you have a doctor that prescribed it for your mom?
We have a family doctor that prescribed it, and I talked with the intensivist at the hospital, and they did not feel comfortable and actually uh, you know, flat out refused to even uh you know, consider it.
So then you had to go to court.
How long did that take to get the injunction?
Well, uh, we had multiple orders uh that the judge uh ruled it basically in our favor, and then the hospital, I think, dragged their feet trying to get our family doctor uh with emergency privileges so that we can uh ha we could have had somebody that was willing to administer ibermectin, and she had to go through a bunch of hoops, paperwork, uh, you know, malpractice insurance and all this stuff.
And uh you see, I support the right to try and and especially somebody is deteriorating that quickly, the longer you wait the worse it gets.
Um you are aware that the manufacturer, Merck does not recommend off use for ivermectin for COVID.
You are aware of that.
Yes, I am.
Um I am, but uh, you know, uh off uh I mean off label drug use is uh it's very common that happens all the time.
And uh given the fact that I saw some reports where people were on the vent and they got ivermectin, uh a notable person would be Mr. Ng out of the Chicago area.
He got it for five days and it was off the vent, and it that's actually how we contacted uh Ralph Larigo.
Well you knew of a case where it actually worked in a patient that inspired you to do this for your mom who was desperate at that point.
Yes, I mean she's been uh they've been telling us for the past month or so that uh her progno prognosis is poor.
So I mean, for that amount of time, it's basically she's been on her deathbed.
So do I know it's gonna work a hundred percent, especially since she's been on the vent for so long and she's so very sick that uh hey, I got Ralph LaRigo on the other side.
He's my lawyer.
Can I have a sure?
No problem.
Ralph uh Larigo is the attorney in this case.
Hey Ralph, how are you?
I'm good.
Uh we've been talking about it.
Um what's frustrating to me is I interview a lot of doctors, and and I'm not a doctor and I'm not gonna play one on radio or TV.
And the one thing that I do know is everybody that I know that gets a positive test and calls the doctor and they get the monoclonal antibodies immediately does very well.
Um that why did they not do that in this case?
Because when you go to the hospital, the hospitals refuse to do it.
The hospitals will only do it as an outpatient.
They refuse to do it on an inpatient.
And and you're exactly right.
It's a very helpful uh um you know, procedure.
But they they refuse to do it.
It was asked for here.
And it was asked for on day what of the So and let me look at my notes because I've got so many of these things.
Right.
Um, so I gotta just make sure.
But I know that that's the situation.
I I've done fifty-sixty of these hearings.
I just finished with one in Illinois.
Um, and they will not administer it when they admit you.
So what happens in this case is he goes to the hospital on October the 9th.
He's admitted that day.
So what they do is they're going to give you remdesivir steroids and antibiotics, or she, I mean.
They're going to give you that protocol, even though remdesivir is a terribly dangerous drug.
I don't know much about remdesivir.
I can tell you that this morning that a friend of mine's wife who's not vaccinated, pop positive, and I know of three hospitals in New York that she could go, she could choose from to get monoclonal antibodies, and she already got the infusion.
That's good because every person I know that has done that early has done very well.
But I'm not a doctor, but and the doctor recommended it.
So the trick is never is not to get admitted.
I mean, the situation is clearly not to get admitted to the hospital.
As soon as you get COVID.
First of all, what I tell people is they need to be prepared in advance.
You should have ivermectin in the household.
In the event you get COVID, you should take it right away.
But the monoclonal antibody is the first thing you would get if you were getting treatment.
Um you know, that's the first thing you would get.
When you go to the hospital, they will not administer it after admission.
Well, why don't like in the case of this woman, you know, a friend of mine's wife, I mean, I know uh I I sent a friend of mine, seventy-eight years old.
His wife was sixty-eight years old.
They were both unvaccinated.
They went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta and they got the infusion, and they both did great.
I have a friend that lives five minutes from my house, fully vaccinated.
He had a breakthrough case, he got it within twenty-four hours, he did great.
I have two other friends that live in three other friends that live in Florida.
Same thing.
All vaccinated, all pop positive, all within hours get the infusion, and all did well.
Again, yeah, uh look, I hear you, and that's true.
The problem is everybody I have is in a hospital already.
So it comes down to the right to try it.
I support the right to try.
Let me give you the last word though.
And Chris, maybe you want to weigh in.
Okay.
Well, the right to try for me is uh exactly that.
We wanted the right to try on my mom's desk bed to see if uh ivermectin would work for her.
You know, everybody's different.
Every every drug can affect people differently.
But uh, you know, in this case, she's been probably the sickest that Ralph has come across.
I mean, again, forty-four days on the vent.
Um and we just wanted to see and pray to God, you know, he's been with us throughout this whole thing that it will help her and it'll heal her and we can have her back at home as soon as possible.
Uh I do know somebody that survived forty plus days on a vent.
What is what uh what is the oxygen level she's at now?
And and that'll be my last question for you.
She was on the Go ahead, Chris.
Because they do it they they they turn them over and they put 'em up straight up.
That's right.
Okay.
So what are her oxygen levels on both sides?
Well, the machine is going at a hundred percent oxygen right now.
And uh that's not you know, uh yeah, when it comes to uh, you know, blowing this amount of air in the lungs, it can damage the lungs over long periods of time.
Now, mom has been on this for a long period of time.
She has pneumothorax with the left wall.
So that is not, you know, perfusing as well as it could be.
So uh, you know, over the past week she has been saturating in the seventies, sometimes in the sixties, and on a good day at this point, she's in the eighties, and we're just hoping and praying that this medicine helps and she turns around case.
Our prayers are with you, and you shouldn't have to fight to get the treatment that you want, especially in an acute case, in my opinion.
Um I would handle things differently, and and it's you know, but it's a tragedy for you and your family, and I'm so sorry you're going through it, and um our prayers are with you and with your mom.
All right, thank you.
If I could say one last thing uh before we're done here, I would like all people with good will to pray for my mother for a Christmas miracle.
Amen.
We're praying.
This audience will pray for you.
Thanks.
Uh, thoughts and prayers are with you.
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