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75 days, Joe's turned the page and abandoned, we now learn from last weekend, hundreds of Americans, thousands of green card holders eligible to be in this country, and of course our Afghan allies and all their families.
88 days since he promised he wouldn't do it.
Before we get to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich to weigh in on this disaster that is the Civil War for the Democrats, I see that the New York Post just put out a headline that Andrew Cuomo is expected to be arrested next week on groping charges.
Anyway, the Post has learned the anticipated charge is a result of a probe by the Albany County District Attorney David Soars.
A source briefed in the matter said today, a spokesperson for the Office of Court Administration confirmed that a misdemeanor complaint against Cuomo has been filed in Albany City Court.
This is a sex crime.
A redacted complaint will be made available shortly.
Cuomo's looming arrest is believed to be the reason that the Attorney General, Letitia James, decided to tell a key union leader on Wednesday that she'll launch a campaign for governor shortly.
And James, who released that bombshell sexual harassment report that forced Cuomo to resign, is expected to announce her primary challenge to the interim governor, Kathy Hochl, ahead of next week's arrest.
Now, one thing it is saying, too, is this is going to be, I guess, a misdemeanor complaint.
Not sure, but they're saying it's a sex crime.
Pretty surprising because Democrats usually don't get arrested for anything.
Republicans will get arrested and put in jail for 10 years for spitting on the sidewalk or jaywalking.
Anyway, so we've been going over all the details.
Don't embarrass the president, Nancy Pelosi's admonition to the party she so loves and has dedicated her life to.
I can see a scenario here where the squad has had enough and they feel slighted and they feel betrayed.
And there's been all this courting of Mansion and cinema.
A lot of anger coming out of every squad member today as they one by one said, no, we're not supporting this.
Anyway, Joe Biden said he needed this done before he went to Glasgow.
Obviously, that didn't happen.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, himself is with us.
I can't recall a time that this party's been this divided.
And it's such an Adam Shift show right now that I don't see how they get out of this and reconcile this.
Well, you know, I think that they misread what they did with Obamacare, where they were able to force it through.
Obama was much, much more popular than Biden and much better at dealing with members.
And even then, you'll remember that Pelosi at one point said, you have to vote for the bill to find out what's in it.
And I think they misread that and thought that they could just will themselves to victory.
And they underestimated the degree to which both among people like Cinema and Mansion on the one front and then the left wing member.
The whole party's now left wing, so you're now dealing with the left wing of the left wing, are really angry and are really not willing to back down.
And I think what you have is a whole bunch of people now saying, look, I'd rather sink the party than give up on my values and my beliefs.
And it ain't my problem.
And I think you see, let me ask you this question, because you understand the base of the Democratic Party.
Now, it's almost the entire party.
I mean, I really have a hard time characterizing Cinema and Mansion as moderates because they're not.
I mean, they are progressives.
What?
Well, I would say that Cinema and Manchin are liberals and that they're not natural big government socialists, whereas virtually the entire party now is.
When you look at in the House, the cross pressures are now enormous because everybody in the House is up for reelection.
A lot of them come from districts where they're just going to get killed if they keep going down this road of left-wing thinking.
The very fact that in the last few days they've been circulating ideas for tax increases that verge on insane means if you're a normal member and you're having to go home and explain to your friends and your neighbors, you know, you're just thinking, this is all crazy.
And then you have Biden go on a CNN town hall meeting and do such a terrible job that people are cringing.
So he doesn't have, you know, he's not bringing to the presidency the kind of psychological weight that you normally expect.
And I think him going up to the House to talk to them is not particularly effective.
And I think that the argument he's using, which is, I need this so I can go to Europe.
By the way, going to Europe to a meeting which the Chinese are refusing to participate in.
So the largest provider of carbon in the atmosphere, which is China, is saying to the whole worldwide green group, we are so not going to be you guys because we're about to build a whole bunch of new coal-burning electric plants.
We're not even going to show up.
And I think that sort of further undermines Biden's ability to say, oh, this is really important.
Because if you have any common sense at all, you know, it's Balani.
It's not important.
So what's really going to go on here?
Because I've always said that Pelosi's speaker in name only and that the real speakers, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Now, it was interesting yesterday.
I had some doubts about whether or not the squad would challenge this because they had been awfully quiet.
And most of the courting by Schumer, Pelosi, and Biden had been with Manchin and Cinema.
And I know there have been meetings with the progressive caucus, but it seemed that the pressure point was really being brought to bear on those two and that they were getting all of the special treatment.
And the progressives pretty much, I mean, this was supposed to be a 3.5 trillion monstrosity.
Manchin's still locked into only 1.5 trillion, and they still can't figure out how to pay for it.
It looks like Medicare expansion, all these other lofty socialist redistribution, new Green Deal socialism plans are laid to waste here.
I mean, is there a possibility that Pelosi gets thrown out of a speaker over this or what?
No, I don't think so.
I mean, remember, she can have a vast majority of the caucus vote with her and still lose.
I mean, her problem is that they don't have a big enough margin to have any errors.
Yeah, but you know, by the way, I'll tell you what scares me is weak Republicans.
They'll go along with the bipartisan infrastructure bill.
You watch.
Yeah, I think there are at least 10 of them who would like to vote for it, although I am told that there is an agreement that none of them will vote for it until the Democrats produce 218 votes.
I'm not sure.
Look, I know how these games are played in Washington, and whipping votes is a profession, actually, and you have a person that does it.
But the reality is, there was no reason for McConnell to cave on the debt ceiling.
There's no reason for Republicans to bail out the Democrats when they're collapsing.
That's just bad, dumb politics.
Yeah, I think that's right.
And I think what the Republicans ought to do is move an extension of the highway bill as a freestanding, simple because the only real pressure point in the real world is that after September 30th or October 30th, the Highway Trust Fund is no longer able to spend any money.
We're talking about real infrastructure, not this phony human infrastructure, roads, bridges, and tunnels.
They ought to introduce a 90 or 120-day extension of the highway program and say, look, we'll vote for that.
That would also take the pressure off a lot of the Republicans who are worried about infrastructure.
Because, of course, a large part of the Democrats' so-called infrastructure bill isn't infrastructure.
It's just pork.
No, that's a good point.
By the way, I was thinking about this when you were on the program the other night.
I'm thinking, you know, I've known you for 31 years.
I met you in 1990.
Yep.
And that was the first time I interviewed you 31 years ago.
You were a mere child at the time.
So were you.
Your hair was actually a little darker, too, just like mine was.
Oh, man.
It's been a long run, and there have been a lot of things happening.
Well, and I think we're only partway there.
We're going to have a long run ahead of us, I think.
Listen, stay healthy.
I work out like a maniac now, and I'm even eating vegetables for the first time in my life, and I don't love them.
But I'm eating them anyway.
I really am.
I'm not even joking.
Let me go back to this.
So the Republican Party now is, I think, at a tipping point.
And this is coming out with this book soon called Beyond Biden.
We're going to need a Plan B, a Beyond Biden.
One of the ideas that I've heard you floating on, I don't know if it's in the book because I haven't gotten my early copy yet.
But hopefully you'll send me the manuscript.
Yeah, you should have it.
Okay, so the most important question is: you have been talking about a new contract with America.
Yep.
Now, I have my ideas, but I want yours first.
Well, look, I just think I'm just offering generalizations right now.
I think part of it is we ought to go back to being for a balanced budget.
We ought to be for replacing virtually all the dependency programs with work and getting people back in the habit of going to work.
I think that we should really dramatically shift power back to you, the consumer, when you're a patient, so you know what something's going to cost and what your choices are.
So there are a number of steps like that I would take.
But I think this is something people ought to talk about.
We didn't just jump up one morning and have a contract with America.
We worked for months, listened to all of our members.
I need to correct the record.
You actually worked for years because you did a whole series on renewing American civilization.
That was over a period of years.
Well, that's true.
I mean, if you go back to that part of it, but even the contract itself, we worked on for a long stretch.
And I would, what I am going to do is starting in January, I'm going to urge the Republicans, go back home and ask your citizens what they think ought to be in a contract.
And let's have a grassroots up contract, not a Washington down contract.
And let's see what the American people say.
Liberty, freedom, capitalism, our Constitution, low taxes, limited government, less bureaucracy, school choice, law and order, so people can be safe and secure.
Constitutionalists on the bench, free market solutions for health care, protect pre-existing conditions.
Then it gets even simpler.
Then it's secure your borders.
That's easy to do.
We know how to do it.
That would include energy independence.
That would include peace through strength and free and fair trade.
What am I missing?
I don't know.
That's why I think we ought to go to the American people.
I think they're going to tell me where I'm wrong.
I got it.
Yeah.
Hannity is not.
No, are they going to tell you what you've missed?
That's true.
It may not be a question about being wrong.
It may be just, you know, you got 335 million people out there who have ideas, who feel like Washington never listens to them, and who are kind of sick of the politicians and the news media lecturing them.
And I think if the Republicans had the nerve, both the incumbents and the candidates, to go out and spend about 60 days actually having town hall meetings and just listen, don't render judgment.
Just take notes.
Let them tell you for a change what they want.
And let's see what bubbles up.
You know, the one thing Donald Trump did not get enough credit for, and we now see the necessity of energy independence, reminds me of your plan years ago.
You launched it on this program.
Drill here, drill now, save money.
Pay less.
Yep.
Pay less.
We had about a million 600,000 people sign a petition online.
We wrote a book called Gasoline at $250 a gallon.
Obama attacked me and said it's impossible that this is just a fraud.
And of course, gasoline dropped because once you start encouraging energy production, this country is the richest country in the world in energy.
I want to let people know, and that's important, but I want to tell people your book is out next Tuesday.
If you want a first edition copy, you can go to amazon.com.
We'll put a link up on Hannity.com.
It's called Beyond Biden, and the time is really, it couldn't be any more crucial because we need to start thinking beyond Biden.
Mr. Speaker, thank you.
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All right, we got time for a quick call here.
Tommy's in Oklahoma.
Hey, Tommy, how are you?
Glad you called.
Oh, I'm doing great.
I just wanted to call and talk about Vax Mandate.
I'm an over-the-road truck driver.
I'm actually in San Diego right now.
By the way, thank you for what you do.
We have only empty store shelves without you guys.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome, man.
It's actually my pleasure to do what I do.
I work for a major carrier, and when they were talking about the vax mandates for employers of over 100, I contacted a carrier and said, are you going to require vax mandates?
And they said, no way.
There is a perpetual shortage of drivers.
And any reason to fire a bunch of drivers, I don't see them doing that.
And I've talked to other drivers from different carriers, and nobody seems to be pushing a vax mandate on any of the drivers.
Let me weigh in on this only because we're coming up on a hard break.
I want to be able to respond to you because you're making a great point.
Every trucker I know, and I have friends in the trucking business, and the things that entice great drivers like yourself are they don't want a vax mandate.
They've made up their mind.
It's not a debate about VaxTone Vax.
They've made up their mind, just like firemen, policemen, teachers, military, and nurses, et cetera.
They've all made up their minds.
And they want the option usually of either a W-2 or a 1099.
If you give people those two things, your ability to hire good drivers like yourself goes up a lot.
We have 10 seconds.
Okay, well, I just wanted to say I appreciate your show.
I listen to you every day, and I just hadn't heard anybody say anything about vaccine.
You got it out in time, and thanks for what you do.
Drive safe, my friend.
Be sure to check in as soon as you get to your car after work for breaking information you need to know about.
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All right, 25 now to the top of the hour.
We're five days away from this gubernatorial.
Well, two gubernatorial elections were following, one in New Jersey.
I mean, it's even tighter in New Jersey than I thought it would get.
We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Maybe Project Veritas and their video of Governor Murphy and his planned vaccine mandate that he save until after the election will have an impact in the final moments.
I could tell you the vaccine mandate going to New York City, as I mentioned earlier in the program today, it is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
37% of cops and 35% of firemen are not going along with the mandate.
What are they going to do?
They're going to fire them?
What happens when there's a fire anywhere in the New York City area?
What's going to happen when lawlessness breaks out, which it will?
Are they going to say, oh, you can come back tonight for riot control?
Although I guess you're not allowed to call a riot or riot anymore, but that's a different issue for a different day.
Anyway, so we're watching this all very closely, and there's a lot to break down here.
But a big part of where people's minds are, especially when it comes to McCullough, is you've got him trying to bring in everybody because he can't carry the state himself.
And then everybody he's bringing in is messing up.
The latest one was Joe Biden himself mumbling, bumbling, stumbling.
You know, couldn't even get 2,000 people to show up.
You know, look at a Trump rally of 40,000 people in the overflow area.
It's unbelievable.
You know, Terry McAuliffe was at an event yesterday.
It was like more reporters than there were people actually showing up.
And then they bring in Barack Obama, and then he's just saying, oh, this idea, this social issue of parents having a say in their kids' education, that's the total BS, dismissing parents.
No, parents want a role in their kids' education.
I mean, probably the dumbest thing McAuliffe has done to date.
And then they try to, you know, say Donald Trump's on the ⁇ Donald Trump's not on the ballot.
He hasn't even campaigned.
He's not involved in this race.
But if you look at it, then McAuliffe gets caught spending nearly 100 grand advertising fake news websites on Facebook during the gubernatorial campaign.
People are paying attention to his remarks about kids and school and teaching, et cetera.
And stupidly, McAuliffe has doubled down telling Virginia parents that their concerns aren't just a divisive, are just a divisive young campaign tactic.
No, and a lot of people are pretty angry about this because Virginia parents, speaking to Fox News, condemn the recent comments by Terry McAuliffe and by Barack Obama as insulting and dismissive.
They're pissed off.
It's not a divisive tactic when it comes to their kids.
And then McAuliffe continuing to smear parents and saying that, well, if you're against CRT, that's a racist dog whistle.
Okay, how's that going to go over five days from now?
And, you know, Virginia is promoting a book telling teachers to embrace CRT, which McAuliffe says isn't being taught.
He's just lying.
Kamala Harris didn't have a good appearance there either.
You know, now the disregard for the Hatch Act has become real, running these videotapes in churches, which is against IRS regulations, which would mean for you and me, we'd end up probably in jail.
You've got the president's approval rating in the mid-30s now, but there's nothing going right on any level of this campaign.
McAuliffe, the one Fox News story, is that literally there were more people that showed up from the press than to see Terry McAuliffe.
And there's not big crowds even going out for the biggest names in the Democratic Party.
One Virginia parent says our concerns aren't divisive.
It's not a campaign tactic.
These are our kids.
And you have the mainstream media now going all in to see if they can help McAuliffe.
Anyway, it's always going to be a hard state to win.
The other issue that has taken the state by storm is this whole issue in Loudoun County.
We have the school superintendent denying any knowledge of this rape that apparently took place in a school bathroom that was confirmed as a full-on investigation by law enforcement.
And the guy clearly, if he didn't know, he should have known.
But apparently everybody else knew about it.
And then they transferred, it was apparently transgender male in a girl's bathroom.
The accusation is rape.
It is still being investigated.
And then they transfer the kid to another school.
And there's another alleged assault at that school.
Then the superintendent, you know, denies it.
Luke Roziak commented on this recently, investigated a reporter.
Terry McAuliffe, when he's making these statements about, you know, supporting teachers and, you know, parents shouldn't be telling schools what to teach, he worked until he ran for governor for a law firm called Hunton Andrews Kurth.
Now, Hunton Andrews Kurth has been involved in being a lawyer for school districts for a long time, ever since its predecessor firm was on the wrong side of Brown versus Board.
So there's two cases that I think are worth highlighting around sexual assault in Fairfax County Public Schools.
The first is a horrific alleged gang rape in the school.
This is a 12-year-old in the middle school.
She was beaten, held at knife point.
She was burned.
She came to the school system with these allegations and they did nothing.
And over time, the conduct got worse to the point where it allegedly reached what I just described.
And eventually, you know, apparently there was like a rape kit done, and they did find evidence of sexual trauma to her.
Now it's like 10 years later, the woman has reached adulthood.
She's now no longer a 12-year-old.
She's an adult who's filed lawsuit.
And Terry McAuliffe's firm is really aggressively trying to throw it out of court because she filed using a pseudonym.
She filed as Jane Doe because for obvious reasons.
And so they're arguing, you know, basically the rape victim should have been named.
We've got to out this woman or she's got to throw out her case.
And obviously, they do it in a legal procedural way, but that's the gist of it.
It involves her anonymity.
The second one is called Jane Doe versus Fairfax County.
And that's a case where what actually allegedly happened to the girl is not that serious, but Hunting is making legal arguments that would have profound implications on how Title IX is adjudicated.
Sarah Carter has been on the ground in the Commonwealth for Virginia as our investigative reporter with both camps, McAuliffe and Youngkin.
And you've been seeing an awful lot out there.
What is your feel on the ground right now?
Well, I've never seen the Republican Party so energized in the state of Virginia, Sean.
You know, I lived there for many, many years.
I just recently moved to Texas, was back in Virginia.
And I can tell you this: parents are outraged at McAuliffe.
I talk to independents.
I talk to Democrats as well.
And the Republicans are just coming right out and they're saying, if we don't stand up for our kids right now, who else is going to stand up for them?
What was really interesting to me is that the people that supported McAuliffe, those people that have come out and said, you know, is it Democrats?
They've kind of gaslighted this whole issue with what's happening in Loudoun County.
And mind you, Loudon County is mostly Democrat.
So it's incredible the lack of support that McAuliffe has in Loudoun County.
I mean, I drove through there just the other day.
There were just Youngkin signs everywhere, Glenn Youngkin, Glenn Young, everywhere.
And even in Arlington, where the president went to stump for McAuliffe at the rally where I was on the show with you, it was incredible to see how many Youngkin signs were out on people's lawns, just because that area, I know for a fact, it was an area where I lived, is mostly 75% Democrat.
And so when you look at what's happened in Virginia, you got to say to yourself, there is something happening here that isn't just about Virginia.
It's about the entire country.
And people are fed up.
They're angry.
And I mean, you could see what's happened in Loudoun County with the school board.
And this idea that they could call parents at that time domestic terrorists.
And this idea that the Democrats feel that they can expand their powers, even with all these mandates and everything else that you've been talking about.
It's not just about Virginia.
What's happening in Virginia and that support for Glenn Young is something that I think we're going to see across the entire country.
Well, it's going to be interesting to watch it.
Quick break, more with investigative reporter Sarah Carter on the ground in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
All right, we continue now with investigative reporter in the Commonwealth of Virginia covering this governor's race.
Sarah Carter is with us.
Young's been running a pretty steady campaign, and that is that he's getting big crowds.
He's got a lot of enthusiasm.
What are early voting numbers show in the Commonwealth of Virginia, Sarah?
Well, right now they're neck and neck.
I know that the last Suffolk County poll shows them in a dead heat.
Which, by the way, a dead heat in early voting for Republicans in Virginia is a win, right?
Oh, it's a huge win.
I mean, it's a huge one.
Nobody expected this at all.
And I think that, you know, when I talk to a lot of the parents, and like I said, I've talked to independents, people that in the past had supported Terry McAuliffe, said they would never do so right now.
I talked to one woman the other night, and she said to me, it was just really fascinating.
She said, you know what?
This is the first time that I feel an energy in our state that goes far beyond just politics.
This is about people taking their independence back, people taking the state back, people telling the government, hey, wait a minute, stop.
We're the ones in charge.
You're not in charge here.
You're working for us.
And that's the feeling I got across the board, all the way from Blacksburg, Virginia, which is up in the Shenandoah Valley, beautiful country, great people, where so many people came out to support Glenn Youngkin.
I can't even begin to tell you how many law enforcement officials.
And people wanted to speak up.
They wanted to go on camera.
They wanted to talk, which I thought was really interesting because usually you'd kind of get this feeling that people were a little bit shy of talking politics.
Now people are willing to stand up and speak out.
And I think a lot of it, Sean, had to do with what were happening to the students.
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it, every parent has a right to be.
And then you have the moment, though, where the superintendent, I mean, is there any doubt in anybody's mind that he knew this really happened and just denied it?
Right.
Yeah.
I think for everyone who I have spoken to with regard to this absolutely believed that the superintendent knew about what happened in that Stonebridge High, where there was the allegation right now that this young woman was sexually assaulted inside the bathroom.
Her father, you know, who's come out publicly, Scott Smith, he was seeking a written apology.
He got that in a pseudo apology from the school board after he, along with a bunch of others, were called, you know, domestic terrorists.
Remember, all of that went to the Attorney General and the Attorney General Merrick Garland just based off of what the school board said.
And another little report that was filed went ahead and issued a memo on domestic terrorism.
And he's like, well, wait a minute.
I just wanted to speak about what happened to my daughter.
And then that this person was transferred to another school.
I talked to a lot of parents about this in Blacksburg the other night.
And they were telling me that, you know, they absolutely oppose, oppose the fact that a man or a young man, even if they're transgender, could come into a girl's bathroom.
And they were saying it's like they're not being heard.
They're not being heard by their school board.
The school board isn't listening to them about the curriculum.
And this was really interesting, Sean.
One of the things that they were really concerned about was the fact that as they speak to their school board or when they talk to their teachers, they're concerned about the fact that they will be pegged a domestic terrorist.
That's pretty frightening to think about that American teacher.
I think this is all converging, though.
I mean, look at what happened to Merrick Garland yesterday.
He got hammered.
Look at Obama saying that this is, oh, this is just a social issue and a wedge issue that Republicans are using.
No, it's not.
Or Terry McAuliffe's initial comments, which are that, you know, parents shouldn't have a say in their kids' education.
This is fundamental to who they are and what they believe.
And they really don't want parental involvement.
They really do think, you know, I would think that it would be just the opposite.
I mean, when I went to school, my mom worked full-time as a prison guard, so she was never the class parent.
But the reality is those parents were extraordinarily helpful.
If kids were getting behind, they'd help with kids.
If there was an event, they'd help with the event.
If there was a field trip, they'd go on the field trips with the kids and you had to have extra hands on deck.
Now all of a sudden parents can't complain about CRT and they can't complain about COVID measures and they can't talk about age-appropriate material being taught their kids and somehow, you know, if they speak out about it, they're going to be labeled a domestic terrorist.
It's a pretty frightening situation and you hear it, Sean.
I mean, what you're saying is 100% on the money.
This is what parents are truly afraid of.
I think a lot of it came to the realization, a lot of parents, during COVID, when they actually were able to spend time with their children at home and see what they were being taught.
That was an eye-opener.
Some parents told me, you know, it was a blessing that Terry McCullough made those statements that he did during, you know, the debate, that he showed his true colors.
And now parents finally see the truth for what it is.
I'm a parent.
You're a parent, Sean.
We want to be the guiding light for our children.
We want to be the most important teacher in their lives.
And that is what these parents are saying.
They're saying, look, we pay tax dollars.
We are a part of this school district.
We are a part of this country.
And we have a right to our children's education to know what you're teaching them.
And I think what they're afraid of is that the teachers that are really teaching and the board is trying to divide them from their children, trying to take their children's education in a direction that they are not comfortable with and one that goes against their principles and their morals.
You've been doing great coverage, investigative reporter Sarah Carter.
She's been on the ground for Hannity, the TV show.
She'll update us tonight as we're now five days out of this race.
And it's going to be very, very interesting to watch.
If Republicans can pull off the governor's race in a state like a Commonwealth like Virginia or a state like New Jersey, it will be a political earthquake, the likes of which I don't think we've seen in a long time.
Sarah, thank you.
Look forward to an update tonight.
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