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	All right, hour two, Sean Hannity's show, Toll Freight's 800-941.
	Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
	Forty-eight days, Americans abandoned by Joe Biden behind enemy lines, their families, thousands of green card holders, people eligible to live in this country, our Afghan allies that we made a solemn vow to that if this day ever came, we'd get them the hell out of there.
	And uh yet there's no effort at all.
	Joe Biden's turn the page and they're all patting themselves on the back.
	It's unconscionable to me.
	Now it's all got started.
	We have this situation um involving Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller, 17-year veteran, six tours of duty, one for an entire year, uh, putting his life on the line for the country.
	He sees the abandonment of our fellow Americans.
	He he knows he fully aware of the risk, 17 years.
	He's three years away from a pension, and he goes on social media and he he tells the truth.
	This can't happen.
	This is not an an America that I recognize.
	And here's what he said.
	People are so upset on social media right now, is not because the Marine on the battlefield let someone down.
	That service member has always rose to the occasion and done his extraordinary things.
	People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying we messed this up.
	If an O5 battalion commander has uh the simplest live fire incident EO complaint, boom fire.
	But we have a Secretary of Defense that testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National Security Force could withstand the Taliban advance.
	We have chairman's joint chief, who the command is a member of that, who's supposed to advise on military policy.
	We have a marine combatant commander.
	All of these people are supposed to advise, and I'm not saying we've got to be in the in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying, did any of you throw your rank on the table and say, hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, the strategic air buries before we evacuate everyone.
	Did anyone do that?
	And when you didn't think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say we completely mess this up?
	I've got battalion commander friends right now that are posting similar things, and they're saying, you know, wondering if it all the lives were lost and if it was in vain, all those all those people that we've lost over the last 20 years.
	And he goes on to say that we're all part of a chain.
	While every link may not be tested, the strength of the chain is only as strong as each Lincoln, and you gotta be you know good length, something like that.
	And what I'll say is, and from my position, potentially all those people did die in vain if we don't have senior leaders that own up and and raise their hand and say, we did not do this well in the end.
	Without that, we just keep repeating the same mistakes, this amalgamation of the economic slash corporate slash political slash higher military ranks are not holding up their end of the bargain.
	I want to say this very strongly.
	I have been fighting for 17 years.
	I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.
	Well, now they now they have thrown him in the brig and his parents have been unable to contact him.
	Congressman Louis Gohmert, our friend from Texas, has uh was able to go yesterday and see him.
	Uh Stu and Kathy Scheller, uh Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller's parents are with us along with Congressman Louis Gohmert.
	Uh welcome both of you back to the program.
	Um let me start with you, Stu, and you, Kathy, and you still have not had an opportunity to talk to your son.
	Um tell us where the case stands now.
	There is great outrage now that is built among the American people uh since you were last on the radio with me and on TV last night with us.
	Well, I will I will tell you uh thanks to the efforts of Louis Gomer, thanks to at least three dozen congressmen writing the Commandant, writing the Secretary of Navy.
	It it is working America, clearly.
	Many Americans have found their voice and they're standing up and they're contacting their congressmen.
	But I will tell you, we are not out of the woods.
	We do not have an agreement.
	We have been told by his legal counsel that it be prepared.
	He could stay in prison uh uh uh for a long time before this is resolved.
	So we are leaving Ohio and traveling to North Carolina this weekend.
	Uh his counsel has asked for an open hearing on Tuesday.
	We hope to see our son.
	Uh we hope that they can uh negotiate, navigate uh a positive settlement between both the Marine Corps and Stuart this weekend.
	But you know, I I gotta tell you, I I don't trust.
	Go figure.
	So we uh can't let up.
	And I'm still Kathy and I are still asking Americans to keep doing what they're doing because it is working.
	This this this audience is fully engaged in this with you.
	I can tell you that, and I know there's a lot of calls going into Washington.
	I'll even give out the the phone number here in a second so people can call their representatives.
	Uh why don't you give them the name and number of the Secretary of the Navy?
	That that might help because that individual will have to sign off on this agreement.
	202-224-3121.
	Okay, that's the number you call and then and talk.
	I ask people when they do call, be respectful.
	202-224-3121, and and be respectful and say, please work to free Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Sheller.
	Now, your your son, Kathy, let me bring you in on this.
	He offered to resign his commission under honorable conditions, uh, according to Marine Corps documents.
	The offer was rejected by Major General Julian Alford, the commander of the Marine Corps training command, and he posted this video in August demanding accountability.
	Now there is no excuse.
	We we I've been showing this map on television, and we saw the Taliban on the march from South Afghanistan all the way up to Kabul.
	We saw it in March, April, May, June, July.
	They were taking over 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 percent of the country.
	Now we understand from testimony that the Taliban even offered to stay out of Kabul until everyone was evacuated.
	You can have a bigger screw up than what they've done here.
	One of the worst foreign policy debacles in the history of this country.
	Your son speaking out as a patriotic American and a Marine and a serviceman is repulsed by abandoning Americans behind enemy lines like this.
	Um I think it's warranted and justified.
	He was willing to again resign his commission, and now they throw him in the brig and and are threatening what you know, threatening perhaps to keep him there for a period of time.
	Well, the days were looking dark.
	Um, but things look, I have a little bit of hope after yesterday's hearing that charges weren't slapped on him right away.
	Um, and I guess we can thank the great state of Texas for that.
	Uh and by the way, we do have four grandchildren in Texas, so thank you so much.
	Um, I I it it's awful.
	All he did was ask for accountability.
	He knows he broke command, but what our senators said was a was broken command as well.
	And if you're going to punish one for breaking command, the other should probably be broken or punished for breaking command.
	So whatever they I feel they have done, this hypocrisy there.
	It's just hypocrisy.
	And he did, he knew, and he has said in a subsequent video, I know that I broke command.
	All you had to do was, you know, take accountability.
	It mattered.
	And I would have gotten back in rank and I would have submitted.
	Let's not forget I would have submitted.
	He he asked them, and they said no.
	Louis Gomer, you got a chance to spend time yesterday with Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller.
	How's he doing?
	Well, yesterday he was doing much better, and uh it like Michelle said, he he you know, there was hope yesterday.
	It looked like uh, you know, there was an agreement they were going to allow him to resign instead of having a court martial, and that it would be under honorable conditions.
	And today things have changed.
	Uh as I understand it, Major General Alford now is saying no deal.
	He wants to nail Stu to the wall.
	Uh I can't help but wonder uh do you do you only have courage to crush people under you?
	Or have you stood up to Millie and said, Millie, what you did was wrong, sir?
	Have those conversations been had?
	I doubt it.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think Millie would have called the Chinese military and said, hey, don't worry about Trump.
	You know, I'm going around him.
	I'm taking charge, and I'll let you know if he's going to do something stupid.
	Some of us think that's uh quite a crime that he committed.
	Uh but so where was Major General offered in standing up to the people above him as as they were what many of us think was betraying our country.
	Do you only crush people that are underneath your command, or do you have the courage, apparently not, but uh the courage that Stu has to say, look, this is wrong.
	And Sean, I've been saying for a long time, uh before this horrible thing happened where they just pulled out and surrendered, never lost a battle in Afghanistan, and yet surrendered to the Taliban.
	And my concern especially was I didn't think we'd leave people behind like these military people did and the president did, but for those like Stu who had fought over there, and if you read his uh bronze star award, what he did, he didn't, as a captain, he didn't just send people out, you know, go do this.
	He was leading them, being fired at, you know, and and that's why he got this medal for his courage.
	Uh, this is a guy that will take an order and follow the order, but then when he sees that commanders are just violating everything he was trained to understand, uh, it it it's it's not good.
	And I'm quite concerned that we have people uh that served in Afghanistan, Marines, Army, Navy, you know, that in Air Force, and they saw their friends die, and they suffered from PTSD, and I'm quite concerned that the way this has been done, they're being triggered.
	And so with people that have struggled, they fought there honorably, courageously, that people like Alford really, this is what you want to do.
	You want to crush them?
	Why don't you pick up your glove and and slap them around like Patton did?
	Why don't you just go ahead and do that?
	Uh, but but somebody like Stu, he stood strong and courageous in the face of fire, and he's continuing to do that, but he is behind bars.
	Yesterday afternoon, it was looking good.
	Uh today you've got people that uh they won't stand up to the people above them, so they're coming after Stu.
	I gotta take a break here.
	We're gonna continue more on the other side.
	Uh, we've got Stu and Kathy Sheller and Congressman Louie Gomer.
	We'll give them an opportunity to ask Louie, who was with their son yesterday.
	They've not been able to see their son.
	A few questions when we come back on the other side as we continue.
	Joe Biden doesn't know where he is.
	What are we talking about?
	But we know where Sean is.
	You can't intimidate us.
	You cannot roll us on 650 stations nationwide.
	Sean Hannity, last night in Kabul,
	the United States ended.
	Twenty years of war in Afghanistan.
	The longest war in American history.
	We completed one of the biggest airlifts in history, with more than 120,000 people evacuated to safety.
	That number is more than double what most experts thought were possible.
	No nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all of history.
	Only the United States had the capacity and the will and the ability to do it, and we did it today.
	The extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery, and selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals.
	Three possibilities here.
	Either the president lied to the American people, or he legitimately cannot remember the council of his top military advisors and winding down the longest war in American history, or you have not been fully accurate under oath.
	General McKenzie, I'll ask you, which is it?
	I'm going to be very direct.
	I cannot share advice I give the president, and I will not do that.
	I will also tell you, though, that it's been my consistent position throughout this hearing in the hearing yesterday that I believe the appropriate level of our forces in Afghanistan should have been 2500.
	Is the war on terror over?
	General Milley.
	Absolutely not.
	General McKenzie.
	The war and terror is not over, and the war in Afghanistan is not over either.
	Has the exit from Afghanistan made the war more challenging for us or less challenging with respect to continuing to try and protect the homeland and U.S. interest abroad.
	Senator's made it more challenging.
	General Miller, you agree?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	All right, on the other side, remember we're going to talk to All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
	Continuing our conversation with Stu and Kathy Sheller and Congressman Louis Gomert, as you know, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller has been put in the brig uh for daring to tell the truth about the disaster that is Afghanistan.
	Now we have a lot of congressmen speaking up.
	Many of you are contacting your members of Congress, 202-224-3121.
	Please be polite.
	That's the only thing we ask, or Senator, and demanding that he be released from prison.
	We got this hearing on Tuesday.
	His lawyers are asking that this hearing be made public.
	Let's see if they allow that.
	Doesn't seem like they want that.
	Stu and Kathy.
	I know that you had an opportunity to kind of be debriefed by by Louis Gomer, but if you have any questions you want to ask him, I uh you know, please do.
	This is your son you're worried about.
	Uh Louie, you did emphasize that he's being treated well in the brig.
	Yes.
	Um and and he's in good spirits.
	Yeah.
	Well, they like him because they know he everybody that I know that serves in the military, they know he told the truth.
	And everybody that I know that served in Afghanistan and Iraq, they're disgusted.
	They find this repulsive.
	They find this, you know, a debacle of monumental proportions.
	And many that have the most severe injuries are asking themselves, what the hell did I do this for?
	And many that lost loved ones, they are apoplectic that uh we had full control of this country.
	And and this was not Donald Trump's plan.
	Donald Trump's plan was predicated that he would obliterate them like he did the caliphate and Solomon in Baghdadi, that he would keep Bagram air base forever in perpetuity, and that if the Taliban moved, if they violated one period, one comma, one dotted I or cross T, they would be they would pay the price immediately.
	And Joe Biden let them march all the way up from the South all the way up through Kabul and and didn't withdraw our fellow Americans and their families and green card holders and allies and equipment while they had full control.
	There's no excuse for this.
	Stu, you wanted to say.
	Louis, uh I'm gonna ask you.
	I have been, Kathy and I have been calling for Americans to pray.
	They've been calling them to we've been calling them to call their Congress people to vote in 2022.
	But if this were your son, and and I I would ask you, Louie, what action are you would you be asking Americans to take today on Friday, October 1st, and where should they take that action and to who?
	If I'm a wounded veteran in Omaha, Nebraska, or a veteran in Tampa, Florida, what should I do today?
	Well, we're screwed over.
	Yeah, I would say let's see what's going to happen Tuesday, but let's just have people burn up the phone lines to General Alfred and to the staff judge advocate.
	His name is not Sheller, but Shuler, uh, there at Camp Lejeune, and to members of Congress and Senators, so that they will place a call to these commanders and say, hey, you look really bad.
	Looks like you'll crush a guy underneath you, but you won't stand up to the people who've lied and helped the enemy above you.
	Uh why don't you just stop looking so bad, do the right thing and let him go.
	Uh I think we would get some action pretty quick if enough people burn up the lines and burn up the the email lines, sending messages.
	I think that's what needs to be done.
	But let me also make this point real quick.
	One of the things I've been fighting for, having been in the army for four years, I've seen injustice, I've seen justice, but man, Sean, since I've been in the things that were created so that military could have trials in combat theaters and and cut through a lot of red tape, cut through a lot of due process.
	We're at a place now where it's so badly abused, and most people don't know.
	The convening authority who signs the charges, sending a guy to be trialed for tried at a court martial.
	That's also the same guy that picks every one of the jurors that will sit on that panel and and sit in judgment.
	And the military doesn't require a unanimous verdict in order to find somebody guilty and send them to prison for the rest of their life.
	It doesn't have to be unanimous.
	And they can control whether the defense even gets to call a single witness.
	Uh in their number of cases.
	They bring them back from Afghanistan, try them here in the U.S. and they don't allow any of their witnesses to come back.
	They go, Oh, well, no, they they can't come back there, you know, in in a combat theater.
	It has been being abused, and it's time, and I I've been pushing for a few years now, and I've got Derek Miller on the staff helping.
	Um, but we clean up some of these things that prevent our military members from having fair trials, from having due process, and it allows somebody like a uh gutless commander to crush people under them because they are basically the judge,
	jury, prosecution, and the judges, they are evaluated by the commander that sends these things to court.
	And if you're a judge and you want to stay in the military, you've got to please the commanding general.
	If you rule some way that ticks him off, you're not going to get another promotion, and you're not gonna get another job.
	You're gonna end up out of the military.
	So there are a lot of ways that a military commander like General Alford can crush military members that are just concerned and they're devoted to their country and to the United States Marine Corps.
	Uh and those things have to be reformed.
	They've got to be.
	But for now, we're dealing with the case.
	Let me let me give the last word.
	Yeah, please.
	To Stu and Cathy, I'll let you have the last word here today, and I know you guys have to run.
	Um, but I want to give you an opportunity to to I know people can help.
	I know voices help.
	Giving out this number helps.
	Uh 202-24 uh 202-224-3121.
	And so my I'm what I'm anything else that we could do in the interim to help you.
	I'm okay.
	I I don't know.
	I'm just I'm just hurt for okay.
	You know, Sean uh we're both heartbroken.
	And I'm we're sad.
	It's a bit of a roller coaster.
	I'm asking every veteran, every veteran family, every citizen.
	Stuart said it best in one of his posts or one of his videos.
	We are not that divided and as divided as they want us to think we are.
	We have had an outpouring from veterans, civilians, Republicans, Democrats, from all over the world.
	Keep it going, please.
	Turn it up.
	You deserve that.
	He deserves that.
	He he risked his life for all of us.
	And now we ought to protect his right to freedom of expression.
	And if the military doesn't appreciate it, they don't have to keep him.
	He offered to resign.
	But to put him in the brig is beyond repulsive.
	And he spoke the truth.
	That's the saddest part of this.
	Our this commander in chief let down this entire country by abandoning our fellow Americans.
	And I know the rest of the media is not talking a whole hell of a lot about it, but I'm not going to stop.
	Okay, I know the Chief Council asked for an open hearing on Tuesday.
	What are the chances of that happening?
	Well, it should happen.
	You're going to take a guy's liberty away with a star chamber where you don't even let you, the parents or the public know if they're going to have this massive injustice, then somebody there ought to have the courage to say, we're going to open this up and let the public see just Louie.
	Louie, this is not our first rodeo, Louie.
	They want to hide it.
	Why would they have a hearing and not allow the parents of Lieutenant Colonel Sheller?
	He uh, you know, we do have something called due process and the presumption of innocence, or at least the last time I checked, we did, sir.
	Well, there's a lot less in the military than there used to be when I was there.
	And it's gotta be corrected.
	But the only way that's gonna happen is if people make enough noise.
	You can count on the case.
	And everybody listening to this program, I ask you to be polite.
	Call your congressmen, call your senators, 202-224-3121, and ask them to speak out on behalf of Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller.
	Ask that he he be released from the brig uh that he's now currently confined in.
	Allow that his parents get to see their child.
	This guy's this guy served all of us, risked his life, six separate tours, one for over a year.
	And all he did was point out the truth.
	That's his that's his crime here.
	Remember the scene with Jack Nicholas, you can't handle the truth.
	A few good men, they can't handle the truth.
	Millie admitting this week that in fact he told you that the Chinese, his Chinese counterpart, he would tip him off.
	You know, getting loyalty oaths from other top military officials, inserting himself in the chain of command, usurping the the constitutional authority of a president.
	God only knows what he would conspired with Nancy Pelosi on, speaking, spending his time, you know, gossiping about his his boss as commander-in-chief with every Trump-hating author in America.
	It's he it it it's these are unbelievable times.
	And while we're talking about this, yeah.
	Each day, it gets harder to put to get them out.
	And on top of that, it's 31 days since Joe Biden's ever mentioned them.
	He's turned the page.
	Thank you.
	Louis Gomer, thank you.
	We appreciate both of you very much.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you.
	God bless America.
	Thank you.
	God bless America.
	Quick break, right back.
	The final hour of the Sean Hannity show is up next.
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	But your time military advisors warned against Let's Droy on this timeline.
	They wanted you to keep about 2,500 troops.
	No, they didn't.
	It was split.
	That wasn't true.
	That wasn't true.
	My assessment was uh back in the fall of 20, and it remained consistent throughout that uh we should keep a steady state of 2500 and it could bounce up to 3500, maybe something like that.
	So no one no one told your military advisor, did not tell you no, we should just keep 2500 troops.
	It's been a stable situation for the last several years.
	We can do that, we can continue to do that.
	No, no one said that to me that I can recall.
	General McKenzie.
	Um did you receive advice from General Miller in the end of 20 and early 21 related troop levels in Afghanistan?
	Ranking member, I did.
	What was that advice?
	The advice, his view and my view were essentially the same view.
	And my view was that we needed to maintain about 2500.
	Extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery, and selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals.
	People are so upset on social media right now, is not because the Marine on the battlefield let someone down.
	That service member has always rose to the occasion and done extraordinary things.
	People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying we messed this up.
	If an O5 battalion commander has uh the simplest live fire incident EO complaint, boom, fire.
	But we have a Secretary of Defense that testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National Security Force could withstand the Taliban advance.
	We have chairmans of joint chief who the command is a member of that.
	We're supposed to advise on military policy.
	We have a marine combatant commander.
	All of these people are supposed to advise, and I'm not saying we've got to be in the in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying, did any of you throw your rank on the table and say, hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, the strategic airbase before we evacuate everyone.
	Did anyone do that?
	And when you didn't think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say we completely messed this up?
	I've got battalion commander friends right now that are posting similar things, and they're saying, you know, wondering if it all the lives were lost and if it was in vain, all those all those people that we've lost over the last 20 years.
	And he goes on to say that we're all part of a chain.
	While every link may not be tested, the strength of the chain is only as strong as each Lincoln, you gotta be, you know, good length, something like that.
	And what I'll say is, and from my position, potentially all those people did die in vain if we don't have senior leaders that own up and and raise their hand and say, we did not do this well in the end.
	Without that, we just keep repeating the same mistakes.
	This amalgamation of the economic slash corporate slash political slash higher military ranks are not holding up their end of the bargain.
	I want to say this very strongly.
	I have been fighting for 17 years.
	I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.
	Pretty sad what this poor family is going through, and I'm hopeful that uh they release Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Sheller.
	Your voice is a very important in all of this.

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