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April 1, 2021 - Sean Hannity Show
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Senator Ted Cruz Has Seen The Border

Senator Ted Cruz of Texas talks about his visit to the border and the complete lie that the media and the Biden folks are relaying, or not as it were, to the American people.The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is an amazing week if you're a Christian.
When you think about Holy Thursday, it's basically the, you know, Passover celebrated with 12 fishermen that Jesus will turn into fishers of men.
And that those were his chosen disciples.
And then knowing on Palm Sunday what will happen by week's end, meaning Good Friday tomorrow.
And the Garden of Gosemone, where Jesus is pleading with his Heavenly Father.
Please take this from me.
I I know what's coming.
But then he says, Thy will.
And then leading to the crucifixion.
You know, beaten and then hung from a cross to save man and reconcile man to the his heavenly father.
It's it's just an unbelievable week when you think of the religious significance of it.
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I I've been doing a lot of thinking here, and I'm trying to just stand back and gain some sense of objectivity and big pictureism on all that we are now living through.
We'll go into the specifics as we have been in terms of this radical socialist agenda and this big spending, huge taxation, record record, record tax increases of Biden and company.
Um we'll go into what the monies are going to be spent for, just like the COVID emergency relief bill, most of the infrastructure spending monies are not going to infrastructure.
Uh a lot of it going to pay off their allies in the hopes that they will be assisting in a re-elect campaign for either Joe or Kamala, um, etc.
And it is, you know, and I'm just trying to look at this and be as objective as I possibly can be.
And these are unprecedented times.
Republicans, for them to stop the end of the legislative filibuster, they all have to agree.
That means Lisa Merkowski would have to agree.
Mint Romney would have to agree.
Ben Sass, the jackass would have to agree that they're not going to let that happen.
Because if Republicans want to stop the legislative filibuster in the Senate from occurring, it really won't matter what Joe Manchin does if all 50 of them walk out of the chamber and don't provide a quorum for the Democrats.
They have the power to do that.
Now the question is, will they do that?
That is within their rights to do that.
Because we know where Manchin is headed.
He's beginning to waver and buckle, and I'm not sure I have particular confidence in Senator Cinema either.
When when the arm twisting goes on, and um, yeah, I think you need this program in Arizona.
We're gonna we'll make that a big part of the infrastructure spending bill.
Um, so it's these are challenging times.
We're packing the U.S. Supreme Court or DC Puerto Rico Statehood.
Well, what is the purpose?
The purpose would be oh, we assume that we're gonna have four Democratic senators that'll be elected in election after election after election, and And that means we will be in control of the U.S. Senate in perpetuity.
That's what this is about.
You know, what is it about?
Why you ask yourself what we see unfolding at the border?
This is beyond a humanitarian crisis.
It's a national security crisis now.
It's a health crisis now with the high rate of COVID positivity at the border.
You know, if you owned and operated a child care center or a pre-K program somewhere in your town in your city, wherever you happen to live, and local TV cameras came in and they captured images similar to the Biden cages where they're stacking these kids on top of each other in the middle of a pandemic with their tinfoil blankets.
They can't even not even enough room to sleep on your back or your stomach, but they're sleeping on their side and with a high rate of COVID positivity at the height of a pandemic.
I promise you if that you'd be shut down immediately and likely arrested for child abuse for those inhumane conditions.
I'm not hearing anybody on the left talking about the children, the children.
The same people that were using video from 2014 from the Biden-Obama era cages that they built then with children in them and say, look at Donald Trump, the most immoral thing I've ever seen.
But as I stand back and I look at the big picture, and I look at this power grab, and I look at spending that is beyond the most reckless this country has ever experienced.
All of this, this all of these trillions of dollars being wasted, all of these regulations coming into play, all of these higher taxes that we've been giving you the details about.
And I'm like, well, what is the end game here?
They the Democrats know that their time is short.
They're fully expecting a backlash, but they don't care.
So they're going to get every single solitary thing they can get, and they're going to do it now and try and create an infrastructure whereby they will have a built-in advantages moving forward.
That's what HR 1 is all about, or SR1 is all about.
Power.
That's what DC statehood, Puerto Rico statehood is all about.
Power.
Then, of course, packing the courts.
It's about their agenda in the courts, power for them.
You know, the more dependency that they create, well, the more power they have because they believe people in larger numbers, if we promise to steal this group of people's money, evil corporations' money and evil rich people's money, and we give it to you, and we're really doing it because we love the environment more than anybody else, and they want dirty air and dirty water.
I mean, how many times are we going to hear that Republicans they want children to die?
Well, look, look, look at what they're doing to the kids down at the border.
What if what if Democrats and Democratic states run by Democratic governors and Democratic mayors in cities for decades?
Well, those are the cities with the most crime.
Those are the cities where there is no law in order.
Those are the cities with the worst educational systems.
And for some reason they keep getting re-elected.
And if you look at look at New York as a microcosm, look at California as a microcosm.
New York, okay, you throw Molotov cocktails, bricks, rocks, um, Molotov cocktails, uh, frozen water bottles at cops, you get arrested, and then you're immediately released to get right back in the action because of New York's stupid no-bail laws.
New York City, one billion dollar cut to the police in New York City.
You saw what happened to this poor woman, 65 years old.
She was pummeled and kicked again and again in the head.
It could have killed her as she was making her way to church.
One of the things that has aggravated me About it is, yeah, why didn't the guys watching this lift a finger?
Why didn't you run out?
Just scream.
Do something.
Unbelievable.
You know, you have now that New York, they put this cop killer, a cop killer convicted on a board to recommend police reforms in New York State.
You think this can't happen in the rest of the country?
That's what the Washington, D.C. swamp Democrats, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, the squad, you know, Kamala Harris when she's not giggling.
That's what they want to do.
Sanctuary cities and states out in California.
Right?
Remember, okay, what is that?
That is the state aiding and abetting law breaking.
Rather than working to change laws, they just ignore the laws that they don't like.
If you're a conservative, you get caught jaywalking, you're going to spend five years in jail.
Or God forbid you had an extra, you know, only seven bullets allowed in your magazine.
You have eight.
You'll go to jail for five years.
That's how insane this is.
Remember when I went out to the San Joaquin Valley over in Kevin McCarthy and Devin Nunes' area.
I go out there.
Farmers couldn't farm, still can't in many areas because they were saving the delta smelt.
It's not even an endangered species.
If you know what a minnow fish looks like, that's what a delta smelt looks like.
Same thing out there with this no-bail madness.
You know, defunding Kamala Harris, supporting defunding the LAPD and cutting back on funding.
You know, let's release convicted criminals and eight that are illegal immigrants.
Let's not turn them over to ICE because we're the United Sanctuary states of California.
Now Joe Biden's making it the United Sanctuary states of America.
And now we have the crisis at the border.
I mean, they're going to lecture Republicans about morality and their superiority, that they always seem to feel this compass, the greater compassion that they have for people.
What is compassionate about Joe's cages for kids and what's happening down there?
And then sending the kids off, you know, all over the country, like the San Diego Unified School District.
In school learning, if you're an illegal immigrant, unaccompanied minor, you get an in-person learning.
Parents that pay taxes in San Diego, they haven't had that for a year.
You want to look at you want to look at America's future, look at New York, look at California, because that's what they're trying to do to the entire country.
Both states, insanely high taxes on top of Joe's record-breaking tax increases.
He's now going to try and ram down our throat.
They're trying to raise it more in New York.
New York just got a fortune in and billions of dollars in bailout money.
You know, tens and tens and tens of billions of dollars from red state taxpayers that elect response, fiscally responsible politicians.
You know, they impose draconian shutdowns on all of us.
Where's Gavin Newsom?
His kids in a private school.
He's in restaurants that are shut down to everybody else.
Yeah, Cuomo prioritizing COVID testing for people he knows and likes.
This is madness.
This is what's coming to the entire country.
You know, it's all of the open borders, chaos on the border, amnesty to follow, no bail, defunding the police, taxpayers, confiscation of wealth, and lying to you, repeated.
They lie a lot.
Deny riots are riots.
They say, oh no, this is only gonna these taxes we're raising is only for those that make 400,000.
No, it was 400,000 a couple, technically 200,000, which is a pretty healthy amount of money, but not if you live in New York or California, where they have what, 13.5% income tax in California, 10% New York, and they're about to raise taxes again.
Deny the riots are riots, deny there's a border crisis, even though our eyes can see it.
First try the gag order, shut down border patrol from talking, then shut out media cameras from seeing.
I sent cameras down with Ted Cruz who's gonna join us later.
My cameras were with him and the other 18 senators that went down on the border.
We sent cameras with them.
My cameras were I was banned, my cameras were banned from going in.
The only reason we've had all this video is thankfully because the senators shared it with us so that we could show you these images of this abuse of children down there.
They'll lie and even tell you, well, Joe Biden fell three times because he got blown over by the wind.
Every insane thing in New York and California, Joe Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, the squad, they wanna they want to now bring to every city, every town, every state in this union.
Democratic socialism.
It will destroy the United States of America as we know it.
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So Delaware, verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Locker up.
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How many of you saw, we ran it last night on Hannity on the Fox News Channel, the video of a three-year-old and a five-year-old thrown over, literally from the top of the wall, down into the United States.
Thank you.
Well, Peter Ducey asked about this on uh with Circle Back Saki earlier today, and she said, Oh, you know, she admits she had seen it, and then can can then talked about what the Homeland Security Secretary Mayorcus had to say, condemn the inhumane way smugglers abuse children as criminally immorally reprehensible.
What about are you not looking at at your cages?
Because that's inhumane too.
But you keep building well, Trump stopped building the cages.
Trump was the one that built the stay in Mexico policy, don't come here illegally policy, and built the wall to prevent people from being incentivized to come here illegally.
It's unbelievable.
Then she goes on to say that, oh well, they were rescued.
They still got close enough as you guys are talking about, addressing root causes in the region.
And for a smuggler to throw them over a wall into the desert, I'm curious.
Well, what are you what about that?
Are you concerned about the kids' safety?
Are you concerned about kids getting in?
Deucey asks?
Well, well, of course it is.
It's concerned.
Of course we care about that, which is why I'm often surprised that some of the lines of questioning here.
How could this is getting worse by the second?
You tried to keep and have been keeping the press out of these facilities to see Joe's cages with all these kids on top of each other with a high rate of COVID positivity.
Then of course, you've you've put the gag order on border patrol agents, preventing them from telling the story and the truth of what your policies have caused.
And well, let's blame Trump for this.
We'll continue.
Hey there.
I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes, inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So Dell, a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up!
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
25 till the top of the hour.
So that is the California.
What's the name of that movie?
Califor that if you like the United Socialist Utopia of California, and you like the United Socialist Utopia, that is New York, well, that's what Joe Biden wants for America.
That's what Kamala Harris wants.
That's what Nancy Pelosi wants.
That's what Schumer wants.
That's what every Democrat there wants.
That's what AOC wants.
And you're seeing it now unfold.
Right before your other let's, you know, open borders.
Even to the point where these children are being abused in Biden's cages.
Try and open a daycare facility and get a picture like that sent to your local newspaper.
Good luck.
You'll be shut down, handcuffed, and brought to brought to jail probably that day with these images.
You want to know what cut it, you want to know what defunding the police looks like?
Look at New York.
Look at what happened to this, what, 65-year-old woman.
I I don't even know how she managed to survive it.
With the kicking in the head as she tried to make her way to church, I read.
Guy beats up his mom.
Yeah, that guy uh and kills his mom, that's the guy that beat that woman.
Convicted cop killer.
Yeah, let's put him on the board of police reform for the state of New York.
That's a that's another genius move.
No bail for crimes committed.
Bank robbers, by the way, were saying publicly, this is great.
They get out, they rob a bank, they get caught, they'd be brought in, they'd be booked, then they go rob another jail, another bank, and get they get arrested again, then let out, and then rob another bank.
Not that smart if you get caught six, seven times, but that actually happened.
You like the sanctuary city and state's policies out in California?
You like the farmers being uh, let's see, subordinate to the to the Delta smelt, not even an endangered species.
You like the no bail, you like the massive millions of dollars cutbacks to police and defund the police efforts in LA and the rest of California.
You like the fact that even the illegal immigrants that commit violent crimes are not turned over to ICE for deportation after their time in jail.
You like HR one where everybody's registered, no need for voter ID whatsoever.
You never, but you didn't need voter ID to get in the Capitol to get in Joe Biden's White House to get into the Democratic National Convention, but not to vote.
No signature verification whatsoever.
And let's let's bypass the Constitution and state legislatures, and we'll write the law of what a how each state will conduct the means of elections, which is with the the very verbiage is written into the Constitution.
You like your taxes on a on a national level of 40%, 13.5% income tax California, 10% New York, both going higher.
You like um you like this insanity?
You like what's happening at the border?
This is the beginning.
You like the monies for all this this climate change socialist agenda that's part of this new, you know, what two and a half trillion dollar spending bill, only 25% is for infrastructure, a lot of it going to all new Green Deal stuff.
That's that that is the Democratic Party's agenda.
Amnesty, that's their agenda.
Open borders, that's their agenda.
No bail, that's their agenda.
Defund the police, that's their agenda.
Basically, they're just gonna legalize stealing money from corporations, people that work hard, play by the rules, obey the laws, pay their taxes, take as much as you can get.
Take as many bites at the apple as possible.
Corporate tax increases, that means you're gonna be paying the difference.
Higher gas prices as they cap the wells and money's sent to cap the wells, yeah.
Well, when you pay more for every single product you buy and more when you fill up your tank and heat and cool your home, you'll be ready for it.
Then of course, just lie about everything.
Joe Biden falls three times.
The wind blew him over.
That's what happened, says a spokesperson.
That's what happened.
Joe fell down three times climbing the stairs.
He's not struggling cognitively, no, not at all.
Denied there's even a border crisis.
Now, that's why you try to keep cameras out of these facilities.
Then you put a gag order on border patrol agents that risk their lives every day.
And then you just kind of force states, unfunded mandates to take in the illegal immigrants that you should have said to stay home.
And kept the state of Mexico policy and keep building the border wall.
Why did we bring back catch and release?
That that is if you like New York and California, get ready because that's the United Sanctuary socialist state of America that these radical leftists want.
Court packing, removing the legislative filibuster, DC, Puerto Rico statehood.
This is their democratic Socialism.
Build in as many levers of power that they can create for themselves that give them a decided advantage.
Anyway, I mentioned before the break that uh circle back Gensaki and Peter Ducy got into it, the situation.
You got these two kids, one three, one five years old, being thrown over a 14-foot wall.
Well, we send people to save them.
Here's the exchange.
On immigration, has the White House considered beefing up border security now that there is video of a three-year-old and a five-year-old being thrown over the wall in New Mexico.
Beefing up border security.
Well, there are there's video now of a three-year-old and a five-year-old.
I've seen the video, and I think any of us who saw the video were incredibly alarmed by uh the steps of smugglers, ones that we have been quite familiar with that we've spoken out about our concerns about.
As Secretary Majorka said, the inhumane way smugglers abuse children while profiting off parents' desperation is criminal and morally reprehensible.
President certainly agrees with that.
And these kids, I believe, were rescued from by uh by um individuals who are working at the border.
Yes, but they still got close enough, as you guys are talking about addressing root causes in the region for a smuggler to throw them over a wall into the desert.
I'm just curious what the White House is doing to stop that from happening.
And are you concerned more about the kids' safety, or are you concerned about kids getting in?
Or tell me more about your concern here.
Kids' safety is, as you just mentioned, the main concern.
Well, of course it is, which is why I'm often surprised by some of the line of questioning here.
But uh, I will say that um our concern and our focus is on sending a clear message to smugglers to the region that uh this is not the time to come.
You should not send your kids on this treacherous journey, that these smugglers are uh preying on vulnerabilities in these communities.
There's a lot of issues and steps we need to take to address root causes.
So, of course, our concern is for the safety of these kids.
These border patrol agents who save these kids deserve our uh our thanks and our gratitude for ensuring their safety.
Surprised by the line of questioning.
Uh we're telling them don't send your kids on this perilous journey.
Well, the reward is there.
The incentive is there.
You're letting them all in.
How hard is this to figure out?
It's not that hard to figure out.
Yeah, border agents rescued the toddlers after they were dumped over the wall.
Want to talk about inhumane conditions?
The kids in Biden's cages.
That's inhumane.
And they're all coming.
By the way, there was uh an article that came out literally, you know, saying quoting quoting, you know, people viva the Biden.
Migrants are shouting at the border.
Videos sent from Senate Republicans that they captured on cell phones because then not letting the media in.
You're saying viva Biden.
Smugglers on the other side waving flashlights.
You can hear them, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, who will join us later in the program today.
Because they know they can get away with it, and they know that if you get them across the border, whether you throw them over or they walk over, they're getting in.
And it was Senator Ron Johnson said they're letting them all in.
ABC News, wow, they were they had a shot.
A startling number of Biden's unaccompanied minors are testing positive for kids.
You know, we're telling them not to come, but then when they come, you let them in, and then when they come, then they get to have in-person learning in San Diego when other kids don't have in-person learning in San Diego.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable times we're living in.
And yet, AOC, remember the tears at the border with the cages with Trump's president?
You know, calling the purge surge calls it, you know, white supremacy.
What?
First of all, just gut check, stop.
Anyone who's using the term surge around you consciously is trying to invoke a militaristic flame.
And that's a problem.
Because these this is not a surge.
These are children.
And they are not insurgents.
And we are not being invaded.
Which, by the way, is a white supremacist idea, philosophy.
The idea that if you're jumping here, our laws, our borders, our sovereignty, it's not being respected because Joe has incentivized all of this by changing the policies that were working.
It's not a border crisis, it's imperialism crisis.
AOC goes on.
It's a you know part white supremacist philosophy.
No, it's not.
She blames U.S. policy Americans for floods and wildfires and droughts in Asia and Latin America.
So I don't, by the way, Cortez, I guess you could say speaker in reality and Pelosi's speaker in name only, certainly influential, and now calling for reparations for illegal immigrants.
So it's in the New York Post saying Wednesday night finally slamming the overcrowding of immigrants at the border.
Inhumane, horrifying, unacceptable, and barbaric.
That's Joe.
Then she has this virtual town hall meeting.
She called for reparations for some families.
She gave a detailed critique of the current border crisis.
After accusing, after being accused of giving Biden a pass.
And at one point she said families who are forcibly separated during Trump's years are owed reparations, period.
What's Vice President Harris doing now that she's put in charge of all of this?
Gotta help improve the conditions in Latin America.
That's what she said.
And where's that money coming from, Kamala?
I know you're all giggly, but I guess everybody appreciates teachers now.
You missed that earlier this week.
You got illegal immigrants pouring across the border.
Guess where they're coming?
Through the unfinished portions of the wall weren't finished.
Pretty amazing.
Border patrol is doing everything they can, but then the drug cartels and the human traffickers and drug traffickers and the gangs, they're taking full advantage of the situation.
Texas Governor Abbott demanding answers from the border czar Kamala Harris.
She's busy, though.
She's doing the rest of Joe's job.
Gotta talk to world leaders.
Joe's asleep, taking a little nappy every day.
Doesn't have a lot of time.
Why isn't Joe going down to the border?
Do they not see it's a crisis?
Oh, that's right.
They don't say it's a crisis.
They're too busy planning on spending trillions of dollars and raising trillions of more dollars.
Capital gains tax.
Oh, if you make over 400,000 a year, that's it.
No, well, that's actually 200,000 a year.
If you're a couple, it's 400,000.
Four trillion dollar tax hike.
And I'm telling all of you out there, I don't care what your income level is, you are going to be the ones that are paying for all of this.
By the way, Biden nearly slipped again.
Getting on Air Force One.
It didn't fall down this time.
You gotta give him credit.
Maybe the wind wasn't that busy that day.
You know, you have you know, all of this madness, and so much of it has nothing to do with anything but this Green New Deal madness, just like the COVID emergency relief bill had nothing to do with emergency COVID relief.
You know, progressives pressuring Biden to put 10 trillion dollars in a green infrastructure climate justice bill.
This is this is this is coming in waves, trillions here, trillions here, trillions there.
And erodes white right to work laws, including car check.
Larry Cudlow is right.
This this infrastructure plan will reinflate the swamp into a quagmire of central planning.
He's dreaming of LBJ's great society.
Well, that was a great failure.
That didn't work out particularly well.
All of it due to all of it with its roots back to expanding the socialist power of the state.
That's why if you like California and you like New York, you're just gonna love the Democrats and all these Plans.
Hey there.
I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfock from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
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All right, Hour 2, Sean Hannity Show.
Thanks for being with us.
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We've been going over in great specificity and great detail, all of the issues of this radical Democratic Socialist Party.
Now, you know, we obviously see the mess that is the border.
We're watching what?
Oh, 2.5 trillion dollar spending bill funding basic infrastructure.
Just like the emergency COVID relief bill.
Nine percent of that bill ended up going to emergency COVID relief.
It was one big state uh blue big state bailout program and basically another program to advance their climate agenda and the new Green Deal.
The same thing is happening here.
It with the $2.5 trillion spending bill and the $4 trillion in new taxes that they're talking about.
Uh it is only 25% of what's actually in there.
And we've been going through all of all of the wasted money because those corporations are passing the costs on to you, the higher cost for fuel, and of course, the new taxes that are going to be rammed down the throats of evil corporations as defined by Joe and Kamala.
I mean, it's it's it's just getting that bad.
Uh, let's listen to uh Joe Biden and Pete Budajudge commenting on both.
So here's what I do.
I start with one rule.
No one.
We say it again, no one making under 400,000.
We'll see their federal taxes go up, period.
This is not about penalizing anyone.
I have nothing against millionaires and billionaires.
I believe American American capitalism.
The truth is, again, Republicans and Democrats, maybe not always in Washington, but around the country, agree that we need a fairer tax code.
Uh that this makes the plan better, not worse.
But by the way, we're not asking for high taxes.
We're we're asking for a normal expectation that corporations and the wealthy will pay their fair share so that we all as a country can have good infrastructure that's going to create millions of jobs and unlock opportunity for everyone.
This is wildly popular among the American people.
Uh, it's going to be good politics because it's good policy.
Guaranteed wages, guaranteed school, guaranteed government healthy food, guaranteed government health care, guaranteed government retirement.
All of which we now have 20 some odd senators wanting of these checks to go on to people in perpetuity.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, he actually balanced the budget.
As a matter of fact, the last time the U.S., the the this country that we love had a balanced budget was because he was Speaker of the House.
Sir, welcome back.
Well, it's good to be back.
And uh, you know, I I want to emphasize one of the points you just did, which is uh this is really an American jobs killing proposal.
Uh the idea that you're going to raise taxes for corporations by one third, and that the jump from 21 to 28 is a one-third increase, and that that's not going to affect the economy.
It's not going to kill jobs, it's not going to raise prices to consumers.
Uh it's hard to believe that these people believe any of this.
Uh because we proved it over and over again.
Reagan proved it as recently as nine as two thousand seventeen, Trump proved it.
Uh lower taxes mean more jobs, lower taxes mean more take-home pay.
And what uh Biden is proposing uh will inevitably uh raise the cost of living, uh kill jobs, uh, and frankly, uh make your life more expensive for the average everyday American.
And the you know, but they're so desperate for the money.
Somebody's calculated that that this is another one of those bills that is totally misleading, and that only nine percent of us actually for traditional infrastructure.
I think somebody said there's a hundred and fifty billion more for the teachers' unions in this bill.
The this will make the third bill in a row where the teachers' unions get money, which proves they may have the most productive political investment in America.
Well, I mean, that's why they give the unho- I call it the unholy alliance with teachers unions and the Democratic Party.
They donate massive amounts of money to get them re-elected.
It's one big, you know, pay-to-play scheme, if you want my opinion.
Uh Biden also is reviving the private sector unions.
Uh, in other words, uh basically instituting the you know, the the the entire right to work on uh laws on its head, and that means that the cost of everything is going to go higher from that aspect of things too.
I I mean I I can't believe in this bill they're actually spending money to cap our oil wells.
They're they're capping them, they're eliminating them.
High paying energy jobs in the energy sector, high paying skill highly skilled uh skill-specific jobs eliminated, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year made by people in the energy sector.
That's all going away, and we're all already paying the c the higher price for fuel and and heating our homes and our car, you know, running our cars.
Oh, I I think by next spring, the inflation will be obvious, the price increase in gasoline will be obvious, the price increase in heating oil in places like New Hampshire will be obvious.
Uh, and I think that the country will realize the ones who are right back once again to a tax and spend philosophy uh that has not worked, that in fact has led to the defeat of Democrats every time they do it.
But their their political machine doesn't give them any choice.
Because to keep the machine running, they've got to feed it with your tax dollars, and they've got to feed it in ways because of their ideology that actually weakens the economy.
And I I agree with you entirely when when you watch what's going to happen, for example, closing down oil wells.
We're gonna go from the Trump uh move, which gave us energy independence, to once again being dependent on the world, importing oil and gas.
Uh and you know, if I were the Chinese, I would love the Biden program because it virtually guarantees uh that China's gonna become the dominant economic player, and the U.S. is gonna drift towards a very expensive and very weak economy.
Uh yeah, he's uh the Biden plan is making Putin rich again.
Uh the Iranian mules rich again, China, you're right, they will begin to dominate in every sector, uh, and Middle Eastern countries that hate us.
Let me appeal to the professorial Newt Gingrich here, the professor Newt that I know, the historian that I know.
I spent quite a bit of time in the last hour talking about things that are going on in New York and California.
New York, no bail laws.
You literally get picked up in the middle of a riot hurling Molotov cocktails of police.
They have to release you immediately.
You cut in the NYPD, LAPD, you know, a billion dollars in New York for the NYPD, you cut it.
You get a guy on video killing a guy convicted of killing his mother, beating up this innocent woman who is going to church.
You have a convicted cop killer in New York on a board for police reform.
You have the sanctuary state of California coupled with all the the smaller sanctuary cities there and elsewhere.
You choose water for the uh not anything on the endangered species list, the delta smelt over farmers' rights to farm and the San Joaquin Valley.
Um, you release convicted criminals uh out of jail, and then you refuse to abide by the law, and you aid and a bet further law breaking by not handing them over to ICE.
Two states, insanely high taxes, elected officials that imposed draconian shutdowns, but not on themselves.
And then you look at Joe Biden and the open borders, the you see the inhumane treatment of children at the border right now, uh defunding the police, taxpayers pay for everything, everything's free.
Um and I'm looking at the big picture, and then I'll add in cancel culture and Mr. Potato Head and Dr. Seuss and boycotts, and you can't say mom and dad anymore.
And I'm wondering uh then when you add the Supreme Court packing and ending the legislative filibuster and DC Puerto Rico statehood, and I'm saying this is not the America that I recognize, Mr. Speaker.
Well it's not.
Look, these are people dedicated to changing America very radically.
Uh they they want an America which is weaker, an America which uh uh has basically destroyed the fossil fuels industry, including natural gas, oil and coal.
Uh they want an America in which, for example, uh when you were talking about criminals, they wrote into their uh bill that $1,400 stimulus checks would go to murderers on death row.
Under their bill, the Boston bomber gets fourteen hundred dollars.
Now, you mean I I f I can't understand uh it's one thing to be woke, but this is this verges on insanity.
Uh and yet their mindset is such that in in uh San Francisco, the the communist who is the Marxist who is the uh district attorney elected with George Soros' help, um, has announced he will not prosecute any petty theft below $900.
And as a result, uh one of the major uh drug stores has closed all ten of their drug stores because people walk in all day long and just steal things, and the police won't arrest him, and he won't prosecute them.
Uh and this this whole bias in favor of the criminal and against the innocent citizen, uh, I think is unsustainable, but in the short run assuming deal of harm to America, and it's gonna require real to defeat them because after all, you know, they have a huge political machine.
Um this is really what we're up against.
Is there's uh the teachers union, uh the left-wing donors, uh, all sorts of folks who are out there who favor this kind of lawlessness, and they favor this kind of bias in favor of the criminal.
Uh, and then it's a very, very big problem.
I say it's institutionalized, you know, forces, and that would be big tech.
Uh that would be the unions, as you mentioned, that would be the Democratic Party.
That would be social media platforms, um, the mob, the media in general.
Um, you know, people ask me all the time, I'm sure you get the same question is well, what can we do?
Is there hope?
Now, my my strong belief is, Mr. Speaker, when you look at it all, and they're trying to do this so quickly that the result is fairly predictable, and that is that the American people are not going to accept this laying down.
And as long as HR1 SR1 are not passed, there's going to be a massive shift towards conservatism starting in 2022 and then following up in 2024.
I may be wrong, but that's where I see this going.
No, I I lived through this as a very junior member of Congress with with Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan.
I I lived through it again in 94 when we had the contract and they had passed all sorts of terrible legislation and they were and the Democrats were repudiated.
I watched it in 2010 when we actually picked up even more seats, 63 in the House, uh, because of the scale of Obamacare and the scale of their uh spending.
So I I think you're exactly right.
And I and I believe that the Corrupt Politicians Act, which is what I call HR one, uh, is not going to pass.
I think, you know, there are provisions, for example.
Ninety percent of the American people, 90% believe that only U.S. citizens should vote in an election.
Well, HR one eliminates the ability to check to see whether or not you're a U.S. citizen.
Now, I don't think in a free society that politicians can vote against 90% of their own voters and expect to get re-elected.
And that's what the Democratic Machine is setting up is is an amazing choice next year between politicians who obey uh Pelosi and Schumer and Biden and Harris and politicians who come home and listen to the American people and try to genuinely represent them.
I think it's a a remarkable moment in American history.
I think Donald Trump, and tell me if you disagree with this, that he's set the agenda.
And I I'd like to say that I say this in under a minute, and that is re Republicans, the conservative movement or America First Movement, Make America Great Again movement is about liberty, it's about freedom, it's about limited government.
It supports the first, second, and every amendment.
It supports our constitution, constitutional lists on the on the bench.
Uh we we believe in law and order and safety and security in our towns and cities.
Uh, we believe in educational choice.
We believe in secure borders, we believe in energy independence, low taxes.
We believe in ending bureaucratic uh uh nightmare of uh which is regulation uh to death, free and fair trade.
We believe in peace through strength.
Uh I'm sure I left out a couple, but that's pretty much it for me.
Well, I that that lays down the baseline, and you you can add to that.
Uh we believe that uh if you're gonna pay a teacher, they ought to be in the classroom.
Uh we believe that you know, by the way, and and health care.
I believe in health care cooperatives.
I believe in in health care savings accounts, and yes, protect people's pre-existing conditions.
Right.
So I think you can go down the list and you'll find that uh then and maybe the most important thing for our survival as a country, we believe that America has to be protected, and America and its allies in the free world uh have to form an effective alliance to contain the Chinese Communist Party.
Uh and we're prepared to take the right steps at a time when it's clear that the people that uh that Biden is putting in uh have no idea what they're doing and are gonna run enormous risks.
Now considering I've been your little I've been your little brother for thirty years, and you've been a mentor of mine the entire time, you've got to admit I've learned a lot.
Well, I've come a long way.
Well, you've come a long way, and you also learn how to listen carefully to people like Donald Trump uh and Ronald Reagan.
Uh and I think and me.
But it but I think you had a pretty good baseline there that lays out, you know, the we're the we're the party of freedom, we're the party of the work ethic, we're the party of the rule of law, uh they're the party of government tyranny, they're the party of high taxes taken right out of your pocket.
Uh they're the party that favors criminals over over the legal citizen.
Um, and I think this is all going to become very clear despite the news media, and despite every effort to protect them uh by reporters and editorial writers.
Mr. Speaker, always a pleasure.
Thank you, sir.
I have a funny feeling that this is going to now crystallize into the next wave.
We've had three.
You've been a part of one of them.
You mentioned Reagan and Trump.
That would be one and three.
You are in the middle.
I could see wave four coming now.
Hey there.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just Want clarity.
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When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Believe it or not, it's about a year now.
Almost a year to the day, that Governor Andrew Cuomo, then followed by Governor Wolf in Pennsylvania, Governor Murphy in New Jersey, Michigan, similar story, that this nursing home directive executive order was put in place.
That was earlier this month, Cuomo, you know, it was early in March of last year.
It's now April 1st today, April Fool's Day.
Anyway, but he was saying we go to Best Coach Care She's to be in the whale.
And we're betted in those other countries.
It's not going to happen when New York is.
All right, a lot of good that worked out a month later.
And it took Donald Trump, who will never seem to get the credit for it, that built the hospitals, manned the hospitals, provided all the PP.
I need 40,000 ventilators and all the ventilators that everybody needed, which proved at that time not to be that effective.
They've gotten a lot better at it, thank goodness, uh, for people that have really gotten bad cases of COVID.
They're saving more lives than they didn't a year ago.
But this is this is the damage that was done.
And then Donald Trump moving forward with Operation Warp Speed.
And you know, God forbid Donald Trump mentioned a therapeutic that was had the risk is nil using the words of Dr. Daniel Wallace, the foremost expert at Cedar Sinai in Los Angeles on HCQ, for example.
But none of that mattered because it was all politicized.
But that's a year ago.
We've learned a lot in a year.
It was President Trump that got it right and built the beds and converted the ventilation systems and the hospital ship and the Javit Center and manned those places and provided the gloves, the gowns, the masks, the shields that New York didn't have.
Governor Cuomo was told by his own health care task force in 2015.
It's not when the pandemic, it's not if the pandemic hits, it's when it hits.
You're gonna be short.
15,783 ventilators.
And he's screaming, I need 40,000.
He didn't need 40,000, but all the ventilators he did need was provided by Donald Trump.
Because after his own health care task force recommended purchasing that many in New York City was advised to get 10,000 separately, separate and apart from what the state was recommended to get.
uh they got all the the ventilators they needed as well but um they didn't they didn't he said He goes back and says, Well, I've got 2,000.
How can I make better use of the 2,000 ventilators I have?
Well, we're gonna use it on 15 patients at once.
That's not how a ventilator is made.
Complicated to do, but we had co great our great companies in the auto industry.
They stepped up and they were able to produce them.
Complicated machinery, actually, in record time.
Pretty amazing.
And then of course, warp speed.
And you look back a year later, and what have we learned?
We we see that what Cuomo was knew in June.
He literally knew in a month that that executive action was a disaster, and his impulse was to well not fix it, not admit a mistake and say we gotta learn from this and make sure this doesn't happen, and maybe even inform other states that it followed his lead, like New Jersey and Pennsylvania, Michigan.
He didn't do any of that.
He writes a book, apparently four million dollars that I guess he was using staff members according to a report today.
But you know, his history of ridiculous coronavirus comments are second to none.
And you know, now New York is relying on the vaccine that Donald Trump made happen.
Three of them Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson and Johnson.
And and Biden saying, Oh, Cuomo was the gold standard.
Nah, he wasn't even the copper standard.
Listen.
What New York did was follow what the Republican administration said to do.
That's not my attempt to politicize it.
Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus.
That is going to happen.
You can't save everyone.
You're going to lose people.
That's life.
That nursing home should have referred that patient and should have told the Department of Health.
Now, when the Department of Health takes burnout debt, they no longer get paid for burning debt.
Oh, money.
We have been helping them with more PPE, but again, it's not our job.
When you're saying what happened in other countries versus what happened here, uh, we don't even think it's going to be as bad as it was in other countries.
Why is there not a nationwide stay-at-home order?
Well, look, I think we're in a position where I think every state is gonna have to be moving in that direction.
And uh it demonstrates that it does bend that curve a little bit.
It does increase the prospects that fewer people are gonna catch the virus.
And the answer is I I I don't fully know.
We've been leaving it to the governors.
Thank God the governors have been moving.
Your governor of New York's done one hell of a job.
He I think he's sort of the gold standard.
One hell of a job, Andrew.
Not exactly.
It's been an unmitigated mess and failure on every level.
Sad.
Because grandmas and grandpas that could be alive today would be alive.
Well, you're gonna die anyway.
Well, yeah, oh, they wanted the money.
Oh we have tapes of conversations.
I think this one was in New Jersey, where prior to this, the nursing home owners, they were screaming, people are going to die.
We cannot handle COVID patients.
Now, 80% of the beds that Donald Trump built, manned, provided PPE for, provided therapeutics for, changed the ventilation systems for.
Those beds stayed empty.
None of the states in the Northeast, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, they all had access to the hospitals Trump was building everywhere in record time.
Anyway, Tim Hoffer's with us.
He's the president CEO of the Empire Center for Public Policy.
It's been a year now since this executive order, the group home order that killed 532 group home patients and 36, I believe, workers and infected some 16,000 between patients and workers in the group homes.
Yeah, that still remains in effect today.
Nobody seems to be talking about it.
Anyway, Tim, welcome to the program.
Thank you for being with us.
Oh, thanks for having me.
Let's get your your take on the gold standard, uh, Andrew Cuomo.
Well, you know, this is interesting.
There um uh a lot of things have happened since this data about the nursing home death came out in February.
Um both in New York and sort of To the governor, right?
What I think is really important that we don't lose sight of is that from our perspective, this all started.
And the Empire Center is the group that filed the lawsuit that have eventually made all these data available.
And the reason that we did that, our perspective on this is what's happened has happened.
Um the orders that were made were made.
The most important thing to be prepared for now is if something like this, God forbid, should happen again, should we find ourselves in a resurgence of COVID or a different strain of COVID or a different pandemic altogether?
The state and everybody who lives in it should be doing everything that they possibly can to make sure that we're better prepared for the next one than we were for this one.
And that starts with having access to the information about what happened, right?
That's that's what you're talking about.
This is what we're talking about.
Can I take it back a little bit further?
If we're gonna start learning from this pandemic, you see what's happening at our southern border.
If if ever there was a super spreader atmosphere, it's happening on the southern border today.
Now Biden is lecturing the country to wear masks and encouraging more draconian shutdowns and and social distancing.
Do you see what's going on down there?
It doesn't seem like we learned a damn thing.
Well, I yeah, I mean, there's two things to look at, right?
There's the spread of the disease, and then there's the actual reaction by our government.
Um and I think that the latter is what we're focused on in terms of making sure that government's doing what it can.
So you can't control the actions of people, and we don't know what's going to happen at the border, and that's certainly well out of my personal control.
Um, but we can be looking at how our governors across the states and what the federal government does in respect to how do we control what happens when these things show up.
Well, I mean, look to go back to the 2015, New York State health they they had a uh a health care uh uh investigation narrative that was written report about the pandemic that would come.
Not not if when it happens, this is what you're gonna need.
They didn't do a single thing to prepare.
Now, with with that said, I would argue, and I think it's proven factually that Donald Trump built the hospitals, man the hospital, all the things that I've been saying.
Got the ventilators built, etc.
Um, and made it available.
What makes you think that they would do it now?
What makes you think that actually learned from this now?
Because you still have the group home executive order that killed all those people in place today in New York.
Yeah, I think you're right going back to looking at what happened in the wake of that commission.
Um certainly there were things that were done in New York and I'm sure in other states where recommendations were made, and in some cases where they even began to follow them, and then over the course of the year the budget has to make cuts and you stop doing these things.
And so you don't have the stockpiles of the PPE that were recommended, you know, by their own commissions.
Um why do I think that government can be more prepared the next time?
Well, I'd argue that the whole reason I'm here is because I'm not sure that they do that on their own.
The reason that we go after and request these data and want to do independent analysis of what happened and look at ways to prepare better for next time, is because I do believe that an outside source needs to be able to do this.
And Governor Cuomo's action and his administration's action in this case and in several others sort of proves the point, right?
Um they they hid the data, as you said, rather than coming clean when it was clear that a mistake had been made.
That goes all the way back to July of 2020.
Um then for the and then the the more this goes, the more that we learn about what happened, the further down the rabbit hole we get, the more we see that there was a lot here, right?
Not only was it just hiding the data, it was changing reports, it's now looking at bullying behavior.
I mean, you need more than two hands to count all the things that the Cuomo administration is currently checking on.
Yeah.
Well, if we don't learn from the past, we're doomed to repeat it, correct?
Absolutely.
And that's I mean, I think that's why we continue to to push.
I mean, one of the things we're working on right now is to get access to more of the data they haven't released.
Um, you know, we got one, we got a very consequential data set uh in the nursing home death data.
There are 121 other sets of data that we think are important in terms of analysis of these health care data that are not currently available.
Um so we've started a petition to call on the Department of Health and the Governor to make these data available proactively.
Um that may sound crazy, but you know, we believe we have access to these data as taxpayers, as residents, as citizens.
Um, and it should be available, and they and they have to date not made these available yet.
All right, we appreciate you being with us.
Thank you for that uh insight, Tim.
Thank you, President CEO, Empire Center for Public Policy.
Thanks for being with us.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markovitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes, inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
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So Delaware, verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prolog Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, to our busy telephones uh we go.
We have Ed is in Michigan.
Ed, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Thanks for being with us.
Hey, thank you, Sean.
Uh big fan.
Happy Easter to you and your family.
Yeah, you too, sir.
Um, you know, I I I think I got a different perspective on this, uh, Derek Shulman uh trial is going on.
You know, I'm currently I work as a um as a uh criminal defense attorney, law professor, and a police officer.
So I'm doing all three right now.
And um, you know, it's kind of like when I go through a traffic light with my emergency lights on, and I shut them off right afterwards, and everyone says he just turned them on to um you know get through the light, and they don't know the rest of the story.
They don't know the dispatcher downgraded the call.
Well, you know, in watching when when we look just at the video, and we say, Well, you had his as knee on uh Mr. Floyd's neck for nine minutes.
Well, as an investigator, I look at that and say, Well, that's just not enough.
Um, you can have your knee on someone's neck for 39 minutes an hour, Tim.
Um here, um, there's there's no end.
I I've looked at this video completely.
Let me let me take issue with you.
Granted, it's the uh the toxicology report is back, the autopsy is in, he had preexisting conditions, he had methamphetamine um in his blood, he had fentanyl in his blood system.
Okay, all true.
The question is did the actions of the knee on somebody's neck as hard as it was for nine minutes and twenty nine seconds.
Had that not happened, and this this is what the jury will decide here.
Had that nine minutes twenty-nine seconds, remember he was handcuffed uh the whole time.
I uh I'll concede that he was probably being difficult trying to get into the car.
Let's assume that.
Okay.
Would he be alive?
Would he have died there that day if in fact that didn't happen?
I I it we don't know that.
And you see his knee on the neck as hard as it was.
He had a sand abrasions on his face.
None of us.
I don't have enough time to go into this with you more detail.
But you know, we can get back to it in our final half hour if you want to stick on the line, because I got a guest in the next hour, Ted Cruz, but I'm saying as a martial artist that has been doing this for eight years, that I could drop you to your knees with one strike to your carotid in the bottom of your jaw.
A targeted strike.
Right to your knees.
If I put you in a rear-naked choke, you'll pass out in 15 seconds or less.
Likely less.
It's the most vulnerable part of the human anatomy.
But my argument is you just needed to manipulate two fingers, and you had full compliance.
Quick break right back.
Ted Cruz next.
All right, news round up in information overload hour, 800-941 Sean.
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Um even fake news ABC with Georgie Stephanopoulos recognizing, oh, a startling number of Biden's unaccompanied minors are testing positive for COVID.
Yeah, you know when they're opening up those schools in that San Diego Unified Public School District and in-person learning for uh unaccompanied illegal immigrants, young children.
They they get in-person learning, and the parents that pay the taxes for the schools in San Diego, their kids haven't been in a classroom in a year.
It's unbelievable.
This is a humanitarian crisis.
It is a health care crisis, it is a national security crisis.
You know that the gangs, the drug uh dealers, the cartels, drug traffickers, human traffickers.
Uh this is a field day for them because they know the resources now are are dealing with this Joe Biden influx of illegal immigrants, expecting well over two million people this year alone.
And by the way, all their housing and their food and their their health care and their education will be paid for by you, the American people.
Two groups of House members have gone down.
The state that has been most hurt in this whole thing, this unmitigated disaster is the state of Texas.
I mean, if it wasn't for Senator Cruz and I know he had Senator Ron Johnson with him and Lindsey Graham and Senator Cotton and eight eighteen Republican senators went down there.
We showed you the video, we played the video.
Senator Cruz, the media's been banned from going inside these cages that Joe Biden has been building for kids.
I could tell you this if you ran a daycare center and those videos emerge from your daycare center or your pre-K center, whatever you want to call it, you probably would be arrested for abusing children with inhumane conditions, because that's exactly what's going on down there.
Senator Ted Cruz has is done the most in in terms of being out there and exposing this and showing the American people.
He've got into a confrontation with a I guess somebody working for the Biden administration.
Oh, you can't take pictures.
They're actually asking U.S. senators to erase the videos and pictures they took because they want to hide the truth.
They put a gag order on border patrol agents.
They're not allowed to talk to the media.
All media requests must go through Biden's Washington swamp.
Senator Ted Cruz in Texas is with us.
I gotta tell you, Senator, if I owned a daycare center and the images that you took on your cell phone that you generously shared with my TV show, if we aired that, I probably would be handcuffed within hours and put in jail, and frankly, rightly so.
Sean, you're exactly right.
Uh the conditions in the Donna facility, the conditions down in the border, they're inhumane.
The Donna facility, as you know, is a gigantic tent city that was built to handle the massive surge of illegal immigration.
Its capacity is a thousand people, but under COVID capacity, it's its capacity is only 250 people.
When we went down there, I l I led a uh a group of 19 senators down there.
There were 4,200 people in a facility that whose capacity is supposed to be 250.
That is over 1,500 percent its capacity.
The kids in the Biden cages, they weren't six feet apart or three feet apart, and we're in the middle of a pandemic, they weren't even six inches apart.
They were literally lying side by side, touching each other, crammed in there as tight as humanly possible.
They were lying on the floor, there are no beds, no cocks, no mats, lying on the floor, they're covered up in in reflective aluminum foil emergency blankets.
And the rate of COVID positivity in that facility is 10%.
If any school, if any nursery, if any daycare crowded kids in and made them sleep side by side touching in the middle of a pandemic and had a 10% COVID positivity, they'd be shut down in a heartbeat and instead the Biden administration's approach is hide it, deny it, declare it's not a crisis, and try to keep the media out.
As you know, I asked uh for the media to come with us into that facility.
Fox News wanted to embed with us.
You sent a reporter down to join us.
ABC News wanted to embed with us.
And the Biden administration said no, no reporters, no cameras.
No, by the way, this is important, Senator Mike my cameras were denied access.
And and you were generous enough to share your videos with us or else we wouldn't have had them.
And that's what the Biden administration wanted.
That they sent a a political minder from DC whose sole job as far as I can tell was to try to stop senators from taking pictures or videos.
We pulled out our camera our phones and just started taking pictures and videos.
This minder jumped in front of my camera repeatedly tried to block me showing the Biden pages, block it with herself and and they desperately wanted to cover it up.
Now here's a bit of good news Sean By the way I I actually saw a little bit of of uh Mike Wallace remember back in the old days, the old sixty minutes I saw a little Mike Wallace and Senator Ted Cruz and I'm not saying that flippantly you were you were very polite but also excuse me, I'm a U.S. Senator I'm taking these videos.
Well yeah and and her defense was respect these people.
Look the way the Biden administration is is treating them is not respecting them, crowding them in where it's a danger to their health and their lives and then hiding it from the American people is not respecting them.
And all other recent administrations have allowed the press into those facilities.
Trump did Obama did Bush did Clinton did.
It's only Biden that tried to block the press but here's the good news Sean we put out the videos we put out the pictures and the public attention and pressure was so much that this week the Biden administration caved and allowed the media cameras in there.
They couldn't take the heat and and that really is a is a testament to the 19 senators that went down there and sh and shown the light but also a testament to the American people who were outraged at at what the Biden administration is doing to these children.
Listen what I I stand by what I say.
Imagine Senator now you're also a constitutional attorney you've argued before the U.S. Supreme Court Alan Dershowitz has said many times to me and on air that you are one of the best students he's ever had and he doesn't always agree with you obviously politically and and a national debate champ on top of all all of that.
And I've got to tell you something that I you tell me from a legal perspective if I ran a daycare center and cameras came in to my center and those videos were taken in those Biden cages or light cages uh would I be arrested?
Would I likely be charged with abuse of children?
I think the odds are exceptionally high.
It is a hundred percent that the local health department would shut you down.
They would padlock your facility and force you to shut down the odds are significant you might face criminal prosecution for doing it and and you might well also face civil liability and lawsuits and and look the Biden administration knows that.
That's why they want to hide what they're doing because they know they can't defend it.
It's why Joe Biden said Senator then why are they doing it?
Why so the reason they're doing it is that they're really captive to their left wing ideology.
You know the Democratic Party is a group of angry interest groups and so Joe Biden has promised the angry left that that that they will not that that anyone who comes can stay that any child who could come can stay.
They believe in open borders.
You know, today, AOC is out there tweeting the answer is abolish ICE.
We just need to shut down all border enforcement and just have totally open borders.
Sean, if we did that, we would see not hundreds of thousands, but millions of children in the custody of human traffickers, being physically abused by human traffickers, being sexually abused by human traffickers.
The narco traffickers are already flooding this country with drugs that are destroying Americans.
We would see those numbers skyrocket.
And Biden and Harris, their hands are tied because they promised the radical left they won't enforce the law, so they don't have any option to actually stop this crisis that they've created.
But But isn't it also that if you offer, as Joe is planning and stated, amnesty, isn't that something of great value and worth?
And and don't Democrats say, well, the more people that they're going to give this thing of great value to will be loyal or would create a loyalty and a voting base for the Democratic Party.
You are exactly right.
And the reason that the Democratic Party writ large supports open borders and supports amnesty, is they believe if you allow tens of millions of illegal immigrants into America, and if you make them all American citizens, that they will vote Democratic.
This is about power.
They want to be stay in power forever, and they view open borders and amnesty as the path to implementing socialism.
That's how they maintain their control.
And it is and they're perfectly willing to see hundreds of thousands of little boys and little girls abused by these traffickers.
And I'll tell you, you know, the traffickers that are bringing these kids in are vicious criminals.
They physically assault themselves.
Did you see them dropping these kids?
Young children from the top of the border wall.
Did you see that?
It is horrific.
And it is part and partial.
You know, Brooks County, which is just north of where we where we were in Texas, Brooks County routinely.
I've met with farmers and ranchers there who discovered dead bodies on their farms and ranches all the time because the traffickers will be traveling through there, and if somebody's sick, if somebody's pregnant, they'll just leave them to die.
And it's these are vicious criminals.
And when we were down there with 19 senators, we went out on the Rio Grande on a Texas DPS boat.
As we were traveling down the Rio Grande, we saw a dead body floating by the river's edge of somebody who presumably tried to cross the river and drowned.
I mean, this is a humanitarian crisis, and it's a public health crisis, and it's a national security crisis.
Let me ask you about this part of the power grab, and that is ending the legislative filibuster uh that is packing the courts, not just the Supreme Court, that is DC Puerto Rico statehood.
Uh you see this massive new spending bill on top of the non-emergency COVID relief bill, uh, where only nine percent of the money is one for emergency COVID relief.
Put all of that into the equation.
Well, are you confident with 50 Republican senators that they'd all walk out so that they can't get a quorum to end the legislative filibuster and and force all of this down the throats of the American people?
Are you confident in that?
You know, I I am confident.
I I do think Republicans are horrified at what Democrats are doing.
That they're not going to be able to do that.
Lisa Rukowski, Ben Sass, I believe they will.
I believe they will.
Look, I can't make promises.
I can't control what they do, but based on our conversations, uh I I believe all Republicans would stand together that if Democrats end the filibuster, if they destroy the modern Senate as we know it, and if they do it to ram through a radical left-wing agenda, I think you will see Republicans using every procedural tool we have to fight against that.
That's certainly what I'm gonna be pressing for.
Uh it's also a lot of people.
I'm not worried about you, Senator.
I'm not worried about you.
I'm not.
I'm not worried about uh I'm I'm worried about the three senators I mentioned.
Right.
Look, there's always a risk of Republicans going wobbly.
Um I don't think we would on this.
Um I think we would stand strong, but but the real question is does Joe Manchin give in?
Right now, the fate of the Republic is resting on Joe Manchin's shoulders.
Well, Joe Manchin basically echoed the line of Joe Biden.
No, I'm I'm not for getting rid of the filibuster, but it's got to be harder.
Now, and and Joe Biden is suggesting that it's racist.
Uh meanwhile, Democrats used it 300 and what, 57 times uh in the last year alone.
Republicans used it once.
Was it racist when Democrats did it, Senator?
Well, sometimes it was, and and and it is interesting watching Democrats uh Claim claim righteousness on questions of race.
They say that this is Jim Crow.
It was Democrats who wrote the Jim Crow laws.
It was it was your and my party, the Republican Party that repealed Jim Crow, that that that fought for civil rights.
And so they scream racism when they want to justify their radical plans.
You mentioned the filibuster.
One of the real targets that they get rid of the filibuster is the extreme left wants to pack the U.S. Supreme Court, wants to put four hard left justices on the U.S. Supreme Court.
If they do that, our fundamental rights will be taken away for generations.
As you know, you and I have talked about it several times.
I just wrote around a great book about it.
I did.
One vote away, how a single Supreme Court seat can change history.
And it takes people behind the curtain inside the Supreme Court, what's happening there, and every chapter focuses on a different fundamental right.
So there's a chapter on free speech, a chapter on religious liberty, a chapter on the second amendment, and it tells war stories of litigating some of the biggest landmark cases before the court and decision after decision after decision, upholding our rights.
We're decided 5-4.
Just one vote away from losing those rights.
what Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi want to do is end the filibuster, pack the court, and take away those rights.
These are pretty remarkable times we live in, Senator.
And, you know, I can see from a distance the passion with which you've taken a strong leadership role in a lot of this, and I'm thankful and grateful that you are.
But I will tell you that I think I speak for a lot of this audience that a lot of people like me are nervous out here.
I've never seen anything, I've never seen any political party with such radicalism as and such a willingness to eliminate an entire branch of government, even bypass normal process to achieve what their goals are.
In other words, they can't get this done legislatively.
They can't win at the ballot box running on this.
So now they will use all of these other methods to grab power and hold power, hopefully in their minds in perpetuity.
You are absolutely right.
And today's Democratic Party is run by the extreme left, by the angry left.
It is AOC, it is Elizabeth Warren, it is Bernie Sanders, who are driving the train, and and Joe Biden is either unwilling or unable to stand up to them.
And the rest of the party is terrified of the angry left.
I would argue that he seems pretty frail and weak and struggling cognitively to me.
But uh, Senator, thank you for what you're doing.
We really appreciate it.
Thanks for being on with us.
Thank you, Sean.
God bless.
God bless.
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Uh by the way, today is Holy Thursday, which leads into Good Friday, which leads into Easter Sunday.
Um and if you're a Christian, it's an amazing thing because it's it's the night that Jesus meets with basically for the last time alive with his disciples.
This is where the whole issue of the Eucharist comes in, and you know, take this, all of you and eat from it.
This this, you know, he's the bread of life.
Um, and take this and all of you drink from it, the cup of of my blood, the new and everlasting covenant, you know, shed for you and for all men for the forgiveness of sins in the Garden of Gosemone, and and Jesus, you know, urging his heavenly father not to let him go through this, leading to the crucifixion on Friday.
Uh following Palm Sunday, where he was greeted, you know, like a rock star in modern day terms, leading to the resurrection on Easter Sunday, which is a day to celebrate why, because he successfully overcame the world.
Um amazing uh if you're a Christian, just to just the most powerful week imaginable.
Um all right, let's get to our phones.
Uh let us say hi to Joe is in Ohio.
Hey Joe, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Thank you very much for taking my call, Mr. Hannity.
Oh, thank you.
I just wanted to tell you, thank you, sir.
Uh and happy holy Thursday to you.
Uh my wife is being forced to take the COVID vaccine.
Neither one of us are anti-vaccine.
We're just a little scared because ten years down the road, you could get a commercial saying, if you took this Covac Vid vaccine and had these problems, call us.
You understand?
Who's forcing her?
Her job.
What does she do?
Uh she works in the building department for uh medical facility.
She's not in contact with patients.
She does have contact, but she I assume she uses a mask properly and absolutely absolutely practices social distancing when and when necessary, needed and appropriate.
And if she doesn't take the vaccine after consulting with you, her husband and with your doctor and making her own mind up, what happens?
Uh she could be gone.
She could be or will be.
Well, they said it was mandatory, and it was sent in an official email.
So you have a law.
Let me ask you this question, because I have a million lawyers.
Do you have a lawyer?
Do not, sir.
Do you have a friend who's a lawyer?
Um it's a loaded question, by the way.
Why would one admit such a thing?
But I'm only teasing.
You know what they say a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean is.
You know what that is?
A good start.
Actually, many of my friends are great lawyers, they're great people.
It takes a lot to be a good lawyer.
Um you have a friend that's a lawyer.
No, sir.
Then why don't you do a little bit of research?
Okay.
Where you live in Ohio.
Yes, sir.
And I know lawyers are expensive.
Linda, do we not know lawyers are expensive?
We know lawyers are expensive, because I have very good lawyers.
I really do.
This is very true.
And anyway, I would I'd consult with a lawyer.
You might want to find one that is civil libertarian and their and their values and views or conservative and their values and views and talk to them about it.
And listen, I I just happen to be a very strong believer.
And like, for example, I've said on this program that I am not anti-vaccine.
And but I've also been very, very clear to everybody else that what regardless of my decision between me and my doctor, it's between me and my doctor.
Now, if restaurants, if if they want to prohibit, I guess, people that don't have their vaccination passport, which I think is extraordinarily intrusive into one's personal space, civil liberties, um, constitutional right to privacy, which is you know, we we're lectured by exists according to liberals.
I don't think that people need to be shamed into it.
There there are medical conditions that people don't know about, and there are there are reasons and whys and how for is that people make this decision.
And I believe in medical privacy, and I believe in doctor-patient confidentiality.
And I do think that if you have a good lawyer, one with a good name in your community that writes that letter, I think the odds are pretty good that they'll back down.
If they don't, then you have another decision to make.
And that is whether you pull the trigger, whether the lawyer is willing to take the case and move forward.
You know, that's wonderfully encouraging.
I I thank you so much for your help, sir.
Look, it's uh for me, you know, I I just I can't really explain it, nor do I want to sound like I'm whining or complaining, but I live in a world where I'm under constant attack, never-ending attacks.
And what I have found is, and I'll I'll use a very generic term, it's just the cost of doing business, is that when I am unfairly attacked, um I I have just put on retainer the right people that I trust that I believe in that I let handle these issues, and I I go about focusing on my work every day.
And I pay little to no attention to anything that they are involved in.
I let them handle it.
And the problem is is that I I I'm fortunate enough in that I'm in a position I can afford it.
Lawyers can be very expensive.
To me, they're worth every penny because then I can focus on my job, which is where I want to focus.
I don't, you know, one of the problems a lot of people have when they get involved in any type of legal matter is they live, eat, breathe, sleep, go to the bathroom, whatever the case is.
I don't I don't have that problem.
I hand it off to the people that I trust that I believe in, let them do their job and then they tell me how it turns out in the end.
And this way I focus on my show.
But I will tell you, um, we've had a lot of strategy sessions lately, and there there is a point where I've I've kind of hit my limit and might be ready to to pull the lever, if you will, and say yes to um a constitutional test case on the issue of you know being outright lied about.
And you know for me, am I used to it?
Yeah.
Will I survive?
Yes.
Is it something that's pleasant for me?
No.
Uh so you know do I have family members and friends that read stuff about me that are not true all the time.
Most of them know the truth so it doesn't matter but um I I do think that there is too much unbridled lying that goes on out there.
And the left is is great at this game and they do it as a means of intimidating people into silence.
I personally I think you and your wife have the right to make this personal decision in consultation with your doctor and I I will respect whatever decision you make as long as you're willing to accept that maybe you won't be able to be allowed to go to a concert or sporting event um or but you know short of that I don't think any other restriction should apply if you're willing to socially distance and wear a mask etc.
You know and do do your own personal research I've I urge people to read before they make this decision.
I've done an extensive amount of reading the good the bad the ugly I know everything that I I think I can possibly know about this virus and about the vaccines and there are people that have had that have had reactions to it.
There are people that have gotten the vaccine that still end up getting COVID.
The numbers are tiny they're minuscule compared to the numbers of people that received the vaccine but you should know it going into it.
I wish you luck Joe I really do.
It's and I I just urge you don't let it consume your life and find the right person though.
Your words of encouragement are wonderfully appreciated and I wish you a happy Easter sir.
All right sir God bless you happy Easter John is in South Joycey.
What's up John?
How you doing?
What's up in Joycey?
you doing i'm good man what's going on so i have a small drywall company i have a heavy spanish influence the guys that work for me so 80 of the guys that you see have all come here through coyotes uh as a reason they all have green cards do they have work permits now before you hire them well the problem is immigration you know that is such a game uh it's incredibly hard for those guys to become citizens and
it costs them a lot of money so they would rather come here illegal so sean even as of two years ago there's a guy that came across and he went through a four mile tunnel from a coyote that cost him eight thousand dollars to be able to do that by the way lara logan reported on this that they they have bank routing numbers and they're told you better make regular payments or we're going to make a we're going to go pay a visit to your family intimidating and threatening the the person's family uh look the first thing
i'm gonna tell you to do and I've learned if you're a conservative you better follow the letter of the law um I pay all of my taxes I dot every I I cross every T because I know I'm a target.
But every conservative is a target.
And I maybe maybe you'd get away with it.
But I would urge you to hire people that even if they came here illegally, if they have gone through the legal process of getting a work permit or a green card, I would urge you to follow that route.
But I'm not going to sit here and lecture you.
The the you know, I want your business to succeed.
But there's also a lot of Americans out of work now that probably look, I've done drywall myself.
now is it an art?
Yeah to get people that are really good at it that can move fast that can do entire rooms in a day that know how to you know lay tape and spackle and and join compound over the tape it's it's hard work.
And but there are people that but it is a job you can train people in and they get better and better at it and I know because I was in that business.
So anyway what's your question about that these these guys are evil these coyotes they're making 14 million dollars on average a day washing an examiner did an analysis on it.
So what they're actually doing Sean is they're actually taking those people and separating and sending the kids first so that now the cartels have the parents, the the people go across the border, make the American contact, and they have to pay for the parents to get out.
That's what's going on.
That's why the kids are at the border.
They're getting separated before they get there.
Look, it's horrible.
It's a human, it's a humanitarian crisis.
Do I feel bad and horrible looking at the kids in Biden's cages?
I of course I do.
How do you have a heart and soul not look at children that have been enticed by Joe Biden?
Oh, if you want to seek asylum, come here.
They make a long, perilous, treacherous journey.
Many are are violently assaulted.
Some are raped and sexually assaulted.
And then they get there, and then now they're living on top of each other in the super spreader event of all super spreader events, and then literally they're being farmed out to whatever state they're farmed out to, and all because Joe Biden opened the borders.
And now it's going to be our responsibility to provide food and housing and health care and education for what will end up being millions and millions of people at a time when we can no longer afford it.
So it's going to drive wages down.
I mean, I I bet in your own business, you probably are getting guys a lot cheaper now if they're here illegally.
Am I wrong?
Oh, they're where the guys that came here legally are worried about their jobs, just like the Americans were back in the 2000s when the Spanish influence just started showing up.
So here's the other question, too, Sean.
What happened at the end?
What happens after all these kids are processed?
Are they going to keep track of these kids?
I mean, you know, I mean, I'm a little right.
No, they're going to grant it.
I'll tell you how it ends.
They're going to grant amnesty to everybody.
Biden lied, saying, no, no, we're sending most of them back.
That was a lie.
I got blown over three times by the wind, is staff is saying.
No, that didn't happen.
He's like, Donald Trump caused this.
No, he didn't.
You know, and Biden, Biden will legalize all of them.
Democrats hope that if they give this this thing of great worth called citizenship amnesty to illegal immigrants, that there will be an instantaneous bond and loyalty to the Democratic Party that are giving this thing of great value.
That's what the hope is.
Well, it's a it's a mess.
It's scary, and hopefully uh, you know, something will happen where uh, you know, it is going to make a change.
Listen, I I hear you.
I look, if I was you, I'd follow the law.
There's my strong recommendation.
And because in many ways, uh it just contributes to the problem, but I'm not I'm not lecturing you.
I'm not judging you.
I'm just very matter-of-factly saying to you, um, I wouldn't want to be in a circumstance where somebody can come by a work site and then you get in trouble because that does happen.
Anyway, 800 nine-four one Sean.
I I had some work done not that long ago on my house, and I hired contractors, and I said, Everyone in this house has to be legal.
Everybody here.
And I said, if you can't, I said, if if you want to charge me more for the for the work you're doing to ensure this, I'm fine with that.
But I don't want to find out because the building inspector comes by and we got a problem that you cause.
Actually, put it in the contract.
800, 94, one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
All right, that's going to wrap things up with today.
Big Hannity tonight news you won't get from the media mob.
What can Congress do?
What can they do?
Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, uh, much, much more.
Also, Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas will join us.
Uh, what is Congress going to do to fight back?
Well, we'll talk about that tonight, and how do Republicans and conservatives stop the radicalism?
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Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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