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We got a loaded-up show today.
Newt Gingrich, you know, Newt said last night on TV, if it wasn't for Rush, I don't think we would have taken back Congress in 1994.
Pretty, pretty profound statement.
He'll join us today.
Our friend Jeff Lord is checking in.
Dan Bongino is checking in.
And we'll get a lot of your calls in.
When Bongino gets here, we're going to talk about on Bongino.com, the 20 greatest quotes of Rush, and some of them are priceless.
And so we'll hit that in the course of the program today.
You know, so many of you, I'm just telling you what I know because I talk to members of Russia's family and I've talked to every person that I know on Russia's staff, Bo Snerdley, James Golden, Cookie, George, Dawn.
I talked to Mike Mamone, who's a great guy, all these wonderful people.
They're all devastated and the family's devastated and they're all hurting, incomprehensible pain.
They love this man, as we all did.
But they're all very appreciative.
And literally telling me that all of you and all of your prayers and all of the nice things that have been said about Rush has meant the world to them.
And I think it's important that I convey that to you.
That it's been heard, it's been heard loudly, and it is not only greatly appreciated, I would argue, it's been needed.
You have the typical jackasses in the media being who they are.
The mob can't stand these people.
And their viciousness is just, you know, predictable and typical.
But I'm not, I don't listen to them.
I don't give a flying rip about them.
Whatever switch I was supposed to have or maybe had early in my career that gave one rip about what any negative person has, it's gone.
I don't care.
We live in America, and guess what?
We still do have freedom of speech.
They haven't shut us down yet.
And thank God, this explosion of talk radio led by Rush from less than 200 talk station formats in the country to now over 4,000 and saving the AM ban, then later the FM ban.
We're on so many FM stations now, it's insane.
Or AM and FM combo stations.
If we ever calculated the number of stations we're on AM and FM, it'd be like over 1,000.
It's crazy.
And we're very grateful, all of us.
If I went through the list, I'm going to miss too many people.
Lars Larson, Joe Paggs.
I was on with my buddy Mark Davis this morning.
Prager and our good friend Mike Gallagher.
I need to talk to Mike.
I haven't talked to him in a while.
And all of us are very appreciative.
You give us all this microphone every day.
And it's an honor to be here.
And we get to follow our dreams and our passions.
And we share the events of the day together.
And we fight for the values and the principles of liberty and freedom.
And those of us that are conservative, the things that are most important to us, we fight for it because we know these policies worked.
And we know modern history has proven that as implemented by Donald Trump.
And we're sick of weak Republicans.
And I'll get into some of that later in the program today.
And they don't seem to have that fight.
The hardest part here is we've lost our best player.
Neil Bortz, who was on TV with me last night, he was the first one to say he's the babe Ruth of our industry.
And then I expanded it out.
I added to it.
He's Babe Ruth.
Let's see, Lou Gehrig.
He's Hank Aaron, Derek Jeter.
He's basically the whole team.
You know, and there is nobody that will replace Rush.
It's impossible.
You can't replace the franchise quarterback.
You can't replace the franchise quarterback, running back, tight end, and wide receiver.
You just can't.
Because that's what we're talking about.
Herculean efforts.
And there are going to be people.
And, you know, my answer to everybody is: all right, what would Rush want?
He would want us to continue his life's mission.
What he was called to do, what he was born to do, what he was great at, and that is to fight for the liberty and freedom and the belief in the individual that rights come from God, not from government, not from man.
And we're better off with limited government, lower taxes, less government regulation so business can prosper without the stranglehold of regulation that pushes jobs overseas.
Simple things, you know, choice in school, free market solutions to health care, cooperatives, healthcare cooperatives, healthcare savings accounts, safe schools with choice and law and order in every town and every city and conservative justices on the courts.
And so we don't have justices legislating from the bench and secure borders and energy independence.
I'm in all the above.
I'll try anything.
Windmills aren't doing particularly well down in Texas right now as they're frozen with their rolling blackouts.
But the best technology, I'm all for clean energy.
I want as much energy as we can have.
It's the lifeblood of the world's economy.
We can't, the idea of going back to energy dependence on countries that hate us, making Russia rich again and prosperous, and the Iranian mullahs rich again, and countries in the Middle East that hate our guts rich again, and China rich again.
It drives me nuts.
These are simple, basic things.
You know, yeah, if you're going to fight a war on terror, win it.
Like Trump beat the caliphate.
Like Trump took out Soleimani on that tarmac and took out Baghdadian associates and took out the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen, peace through strength.
That's simple.
The biggest badass military on the face of God's green earth.
So we can protect liberty and freedom and the individual.
So the individual, we're all created by God, every one of us, endowed by our creator, not the thing, you know, the thing, no, creator, the creator of everything.
And that we can live in liberty and freedom, and those God-given talents will then be used for invention, for innovation, risk and reward, and hard work being rewarded.
That's what's freedom.
Never a guarantee of equal results.
And it works.
We saw it work under Trump.
We saw it work under Reagan.
We saw it work when Newt Gingrich implemented the contract with America.
It can work again.
So the answer, and I know that this life's work of Rush is we've all got to up our game.
Imagine you're a sports team.
Use any sports analogy you want.
You lose your best player.
You lose your best players because he represented many players.
And what do you do?
Do you quit?
No, you don't quit.
You up your game.
You try and fill the void.
You can never fill the void, but you do your best to up your game.
We can all do better.
All of us can do more.
All of us can fight a little harder.
All of us can get more involved.
That to me would be the greatest gift to the legacy of this champion of 33 years that led a movement and educated generations of Americans.
You know, this whole thing about Rush babies cracks me up.
In other words, the kids in their cars with their moms and dads going to school, and they get older and they realize, hey, I'm sick of listening to the same 30 songs over and over again.
Let's put on Rush.
And then they learn, then they like it.
And they, in many cases, that's what happened.
It's just a phenomenon.
And then the outgrowth of nobody thought that would work, a daytime syndicated talk show.
Nobody.
I'm just giving you the real scoop.
And I had just started in radio like the year before he was syndicated.
I was in a radio studio when somebody told me, have you ever listened to this guy, Rush?
This old friend of mine out in Santa Barbara sent Sweet Baby James a note today reminding me he was friends with Rush.
He had apparently emailed friends with him.
And he used to call my little show at a college radio station for the short time I was there.
And, you know, it was a big deal.
You got to hear this guy's homeless updates.
He would talk about this big fig tree in Santa Barbara where the homeless were.
Big problem out there at the time.
Then there was some barbecue store was boycotted.
And instead of getting angry, Rush said, I want all of you in Santa Barbara to go to this place.
The place got so inundated with customers because they gave into a boycott.
I mean, canceled culture has existed my entire career.
For those of us in talk radio, those of you listening, you know what I'm talking about.
Hundreds of millions of dollars spent to silence our voices.
And he was counterintuitive.
And he sent people to the guy's place.
And the place got so overwhelmed with, quote, ditto heads that he couldn't keep up with the demand.
Oh, man.
And he told people, be nice when you go.
Tell him I said hello.
Great story.
Great champion.
But I know that that's what he'd want.
This was his life's work.
This was his calling.
I do believe we have callings.
I really believe that.
I do believe, you know, I say it often, so maybe I overuse this analogy.
The little bit of Latin that I learned in high school, I went to what was called a seminary, St. Pius X Seminary, and we studied theology, had to take Latin, and had to go to Mass every day.
And actually, it ended up being a great thing in my life because it somehow deep inside, even though I was trying to sleep most of the time instead of pay attention, which I should have been doing, it got through.
And I have a pretty finely tuned conscience.
I know when I'm right and I know when I'm wrong.
And so in that sense, it was a good thing.
But the word educ from the Latin is means to bring forth from within.
And if you believe as I do, every man, woman, and child on this earth is created by the same God, and I believe that with all my heart, and then to tie it to political terms, because spirituality, faith is intertwined with politics.
If you believe that we're endowed by a creator, then you believe that those talents are there.
And the best way to bring the talents out of people is to live free, to live in liberty, and to live in freedom.
And that's where the invention, innovation, that's where hard work, that's where you find your particular gifts and you bring them to fruition.
And others will want and need, desire your goods that you produce or services that you provide.
And that's the system that creates the standard of living that has made America second to none.
Now we're going into the system that failed.
Socialism always ends the same way.
Unfulfilled promises, more poverty, and then it's a matter of degree.
How much freedom did you give up in the name of false security?
You know, like Obamacare, keep your doctor plan and save money.
How are those big cities doing educating our kids run by liberal Democrats?
How are these big cities doing with their simple task of basic law and order?
Now we're going to get, now they're going to take over every aspect of our life.
Green New Deal.
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We got a lot coming up today.
Thanks, by the way, and thank you for being with us, all of you.
We know what Russia's bucket list was now, don't we?
It wasn't to go anywhere, travel anywhere, do anything, relax, sit back.
No, it was just get well enough I can get back on the air to be with us.
Pretty inspiring.
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We've been in political media for a long time.
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You know what remains?
Craziness, insanity all over the country.
Let's see.
You got Mayor Lightweight in Chicago says the statues of Lincoln, Washington, and Franklin may be now on the chopping block.
Just listen, stay with me here.
Bet Midler saying the deadly Texas storm is payback from God.
I feel for the people suffering through this weather, but God doesn't seem to like Ted Cruz or John Cornyn.
By the way, Ted Cruz only escorted his daughter on a trip to Cancun as a father.
You can be a father and a senator at the same time, and he's turning around coming right back to Texas.
Good grief.
Chuck Todd, here's our media, right?
What did he say about the winter storm?
Only upside is, well, even though people are freezing to death, at least they might wear a mask.
This is the world we're living in.
A New York City waitress was fired for not getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
How is this happening?
Democrats now have introduced a resolution to ban President Trump from stepping foot on the Capitol grounds.
They put forward a bill blocking President Trump from even having a park bench named after him.
Now they're trying to pass a bill that would ban presidents impeached twice from being buried at Arlington.
And notice, impeached, not convicted.
David Schoen was just canceled for a speech.
Unbelievable.
Unreal.
That's what we're dealing with.
Don't you think it's time to engage at a higher level?
I do.
We'll continue.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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Sean, you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
I mean, think about this.
All right, well, we'll ban any president that has been impeached, not convicted, twice from a burial at Arlington.
Such forgiveness.
House Democrats hire a social justice activist.
Get this.
House Democrats, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, given a top advisory position to an ex-felon who touted looting as a legitimate method of activism, according to a report out today.
Hmm.
I don't understand why you can't condemn violent police and acknowledging looting as a violent form of social protest.
Okay.
Well, that's great for civil society.
Four-page bill that would block the Trump name from ever even being used on a park bench.
Now, it doesn't mention Trump by name, but it clearly aimed at him, considering that would be the only person that it would have applied to.
And the resolution to permanently ban Trump from stepping foot on U.S. Capitol grounds.
Amazing.
New York waitress fired after getting the COVID-19 vaccine after not getting it.
We're going to force people to get vaccines now?
I'm not an numbers called.
I've told you.
I hate the idea of doing it, but I'm doing it.
I made my decision along with the consultation of my doctor.
Not cutting in front of any line.
I'm not asking for special favors.
Whatever my time is, I'll go through the process.
But that's my personal decision.
You should have the freedom to choose for yourself.
Linda thinks I'm nuts to get the vaccine.
She thinks I'm nuts that I get a flu shot every year.
Half my friends think I'm nuts.
I don't care.
We can agree to disagree on some things.
But you make your own decision with your own doctor.
Shouldn't get fired because you don't want to take a vaccine that's new and that has been fast-tracked because of the pandemic.
I've read enough about it.
I've made up my own mind.
I've talked to other experts.
Well, there is an upside to Texas's winter storm.
According to Chuck Todd, is, well, people might wear a mask.
Wow.
See, 10 people have died because of the worsening conditions, because in part the turbines failed.
Bet Midler saying that in a tweet, I feel sorry for the people suffering through this weather, but God doesn't seem to like Ted Cruz or John Cornyn.
If this isn't payback, I don't know what is.
These are the cultural battles of our time.
That's why I always say all hands on deck.
Want to talk about Biden's plans as it relates to the topics?
They're actually now saying that they might use executive actions on gun bills.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Please tell me you're kidding me.
That can't possibly be true.
The Secretary of State, according to a report, Blinken founded a firm that received Chinese money and DOD researched linked universities.
Great.
Wow.
Republicans, by the way, are pressing Biden and his administration to move the 2022 Olympics out of China.
We're currently talking about changing our posture, our plans as it relates to Beijing and the Olympics.
Jensaki said, well, we consult, of course, closely with allies.
They'll never do it.
No way.
Not happening.
I don't see that happening ever in my lifetime, but we'll see.
Time will tell.
How is it possible that Joe Biden meets with Cuomo and they didn't discuss the COVID nursing home crisis, according to Jensaki?
Maybe she needs to circle back with us on that.
And maybe it's just circle back.
I'll circle back.
Circle back, circle back, circle back, circle back, circle back.
We're going to circle back.
At a town hall attendee asked Biden how he's going to make $50,000 of student debt disappear.
His answer, I'll not make that happen.
And says he has better plans in store.
What?
We're going to not only forgive the $50,000 in debt, well, what?
We'll give you $50,000 more.
Well, who's going to pay for that?
I told, you know, all the things, the most radical agenda ever put forth by any political party, the Biden-Bernie Manifesto, the AOC, New Green Deal.
She's the real speaker in the House, and that is Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez.
Nancy Pelosi, speaker of name only, because she has no wiggle room at all.
And if Ocasio-Cortez and the squad decide she's out as speaker, she's out as speaker.
Jensaki refusing to guarantee that COVID stimulus monies won't be used to fund abortion.
Wow.
And then Biden, how did he make this claim that there was no vaccine when he came into office?
The biggest thing we talked about, and one thing we talked about is to have the vaccine which we didn't have when we came into office.
Yes, you did.
At that time, about a million Americans were getting the vaccine a day when he took office.
What is she, what is he talking about?
And then, of course, there's this moment because I always, media apparently, the snowflakes in the country are a little upset that I say, yeah, he looks weak to me.
He looks frail to me.
And he looks like he's struggling cognitively.
I won't spend the time playing the long version of every example of him struggling cognitively.
The more recent one was when he said, yeah, by the summer, we're going to get the vaccine to 300 Americans.
Okay, might have misspoke.
Nope, because in the same speech, I want to reiterate, I want to make the point, 300 Americans.
And then Biden said this.
I wake up every morning.
I ask, Jill, where are we?
Listen.
You have, over the years, over your career, you've obviously spent a great deal of time at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, except now you're living there and you're president.
It's been four weeks.
What's it like?
How's it different?
I get up in the morning and look at Joe and say, where the hell are we?
No, it's.
All right, that's where the hell are we?
You're in the White House, Joe.
That's what you are.
Joe saying that he didn't have the vaccine when he got in office.
I actually have the audio.
This is Joe Biden getting the vaccine.
Listen.
What I want to say is we owe these folks an awful lot.
The scientists and the people who put this together, the frontline workers, the people who were the ones who actually did the clinical work.
It's just amazing.
And I wish we had time to take you through the whole hospital to see how busy and incredible you all are.
And we owe you big.
We really do.
And one of the things is that I think that the administration deserves some credit, getting this off the ground, Operation Warp Speed.
I also think that it's worth saying that this is great hope.
I'm doing this to demonstrate that people should be prepared when it's available to take the vaccine.
There's nothing to worry about.
I'm looking forward to the second shot.
So is Jill.
She's had her shot.
And but the important thing is that it's worth stating that, you know, this is just the beginning.
It's one thing to get the vaccine out, and now Moderna is saying this all before Christmas when he was getting the vaccine.
And Joe Biden had already gotten the vaccine.
And now he's saying, well, we didn't have the vaccine.
Yeah, you had the vaccine.
About a million Americans a day were getting it when you took office.
I wake up every morning and I say, where the hell are we?
Okay, that's very reassuring to me.
Wow.
Now we got, let's see, we got the Biden immigration bill.
Oh, okay, this is going to be interesting.
And now Biden is saying that he'd be willing to use executive action.
This is what Kamala Harris was running on.
They'd use executive action to get the gun control measures, the radical gun control measures.
Remember, he's going to make Beto Bozo his gun czar and Beto Bozo.
Hell yeah, we're coming for your AK-47s.
We're coming for your assault weapons.
Well, apparently they are.
And again, like everything else, Joe Biden said, well, I'm not a dictator.
I actually need the votes.
I got to get the votes.
Can't do it by executive act.
But now he's doing everything by executive action.
Well, we actually have three co-equal branches of government.
One of them, the judiciary.
And they often, if there's conflicts between the legislative and executive branch, they often serve as the intermediary, the mediator.
Then you have this other branch that's called that co-equal branch called the legislative branch.
They're the ones that are supposed to pass the legislation.
Then you have the choice.
Both houses pass legislation, and you can sign it into law.
And if it doesn't happen that way, you don't get to do it all by executive fiat.
And they're even talking about that as it relates to the issue of borders.
That's not good either.
Talking about his immigration bill, this is an amnesty bill, and it's backed by Biden on the fight.
It's going to extend literally amnesty.
If you've been here three years, you'll have a right to get citizenship.
Immediately get a green card.
We're talking about citizenship to nearly 20 million immigrants, a population, let's put it this way, five times that of Los Angeles and extend even an invitation to those recently deported.
Come on back.
Stephen Miller, Trump advisor.
It's extraordinarily radical.
And then, oh, you'll be able to get your citizenship in three years.
Huh, what's happening in three years?
Oh, we'll be heading into the next presidential election cycle.
How convenient.
It would rewrite the rules for deportees and let them come back and apply for citizenship.
They're not in the country.
And they'll bring you back.
If you're here, three years all set, you get your citizenship.
That's called amnesty.
You can call it anything you want to call it, but that's what, in the end, what it is.
By the way, fake news CNN fact checkers bust Biden for repeatedly lying.
Even they did this during his town hall.
About time that they recognize that he's lying.
You know, Biden said the $7.25 per hour federal minimum wage is too low, and then said if we gradually increased it, when we indexed it at $7.20 and we kept it indexed by two, his words, inflation, people would be making $20 an hour right now.
That's what it would be.
False.
White House told CNN after the event, oh, you got it mixed up with another statistic about the minimum wage.
Of course, Joe gets things mixed up all the time.
Speaking about undocumented immigrants, he said the vast majority of people, those 11 million undocumented, they're not Hispanics.
They're people who came on a visa and were able to buy a ticket to get in a plane and didn't go home.
They didn't come across the Rio Grande swimming.
Well, there's places on the Rio Grande.
I've been there.
You don't have to swim.
Anyway, Biden was wrong to claim.
In other words, you can walk through water, but it's very shallow.
Biden was wrong to claim that the majority of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. are not Hispanic.
Migration Policy Institute, yeah, they estimated 2018, 73% undocumented people in the U.S. speak Spanish at home, 68% Mexico and Central American region, 7 additional percent from South America.
And Pew Research Center found the Mexican share of the undocumented population still made up 77% of illegal immigrants.
Now, they're also talking about banning the words.
You can't say the words alien.
They're actually putting this forward.
You know, I'm like, hello?
Is there something wrong?
I mean, that is the statutory language.
That is in, in other words, the language in bills that actually laws that say, well, now that's illegal too?
Oh, that's racist.
Tell me why is it racist?
How is it racist?
We always have to change the terms to satisfy liberals, whatever cause-celeb wokeness of the moment, I guess is what you can call it.
Not trying to insult anybody.
I don't mind people coming into this country.
Just do it legally.
I'd like to check out your background.
Make sure you don't have radical associations.
I guess at this point in time, it would probably be good to have health checks for anybody coming into the country.
And maybe we should just kind of mandate that if you come to the country, don't expect the American taxpayer to pay for your schools, your health care, and your housing and anything else that you might need.
You're going to have to show that you're going to be able to provide for yourself.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of this extravaganza, unbelievable times we're living in.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Ham, and I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
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Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
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So much ground to cover today.
You know, Mitch McConnell's comments over the weekend last weekend really, really angered me and angered many other people.
And I just got to tell you, there is, look, there's a battle within the Democratic Party ranks, and there's one within the Republican Party ranks.
And that is that there are people, the establishment figures like Mitch McConnell, by the way, the same establishment people, they never liked Reagan either.
They never liked the Tea Party and they weren't too fond of Newt.
The three moments of the major moments of conservative policies being advanced, the establishment didn't like it.
Amiable dunce, that comment, yeah, that was the establishment.
That wasn't Democrats.
But if you look at the base of the party, Senator Ron Johnson said it well, yeah, he doesn't speak for the conference, meaning Mitch McConnell.
Doesn't speak for the majority of the conference.
And if you look at McConnell's favorability underwater by a dramatic, he's even below Schumer in terms of favorability and Pelosi.
Trump?
No.
90% of the party loves him.
So let's see.
Mitch versus Trump.
Who wins?
Trump.
America first.
Yep.
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Glad you're with us, Sean Hannity Show, our toll-free number 800941 Sean.
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Joining us now, I've been saying this for a long time.
In my lifetime, three real huge waves of conservatism.
And you might give, might say the Tea Party was certainly in there as well.
But it was Reagan.
It was Newt Gingrich in the contract with America.
It was Donald Trump.
What are the similarities?
Well, it was taking on the establishment.
Remember, the establishment hated Ronald Reagan.
Remember the term amiable dunce?
Yeah, that was the Republican establishment types.
So we've always struggled with them.
The first time in 40 years by ideas and promises that were made and kept, the contract with America, and it was based on ideas and a whole series of videotapes that were created by Newt Gingrich, Renewing American Civilization, and also Donald Trump.
I've been saying this now for two weeks, and I'm not going to stop because I want everybody to know how simple this really is.
What we believe is conservatives is not complicated.
Liberty and freedom is the foundation of all of it on our Constitution.
Then we talk about lower taxes, less bureaucracy.
Nobody cut the bureaucracy more than Donald Trump so businesses can thrive, compete, and flourish, and jobs created, high-paying career jobs like the ones that are being wiped out by Joe Biden.
We want law and order, safety, security in every town and city, school choice, so every kid can get a good education.
We want secure borders.
We want energy independence.
We want health care solutions that bring in the free market, either health savings accounts, healthcare cooperatives.
There's great options that Republicans weren't ready for as they had show votes to repeal and replace Obamacare.
We believe in our Second Amendment, First Amendment.
We want free and fair trade and peace through strength.
It's not that complicated.
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, is with us.
You said last night, and I want you to expand on this if you can.
Great to have you back.
You said last night that if Rush Limbaugh weren't on the air, you're not sure you would have taken control of the House of Representatives in 94.
He was that powerful a force.
I think that's indisputable.
I think the rise of Rush from 1988 to 1994 was so astonishing.
He had so much energy.
He was so different.
You know, he really was, in a sense, the icebreaker who cleared a trail for you and virtually every conservative radio dog post in the country.
And he was really in some ways at his first peak in 93, 94.
We would travel with him.
He would come and do events.
He talked very positively about what we were doing and how much he supported us.
And he, in a way, the House Republicans had been this defeated, passive, almost intimidated minority for 40 years.
And Rush helped us get back a sense of pride, first of all, a sense that we could do it.
And you had him on every day, 20-plus million people.
I always try to remind people that Rush's impact was not his audience.
Rush's impact was all the people his audience talked to.
So people would listen to Rush, go to work and say, hey, did you hear Rush say X or did you hear Rush say what?
And my guess is something like 60 or 70 million people were influenced by Rush in that period.
And I absolutely do not think we could have won the majority without his presence, his energy, and also just his extraordinarily smart understanding of language and of how conservatives could make the case.
He really taught a generation standing on Reagan's shoulders.
And it's no accident that Reagan wrote him after Reagan had left office.
You know, you're now the dominant explanation of conservatism in America.
And I think Reagan had great faith in Rush, a real sense that Rush was fully part of the Reagan revolution.
You know, I think back to my time with you when I first met you in that holiday inn in 1990 in Decatur, Alabama, and you were given a speech, and we didn't have remote capabilities, technologically speaking, like we do today.
I mean, it was a complicated, what's called a Marty system firing back a signal.
You know, it's basically like two Dixie cups on a string, but we managed to get it on the air.
And then my move to Atlanta, and you always made time to do local radio.
I was a local radio host in a small market in Huntsville, in a bigger market in Atlanta.
And even the day after you became speaker, I walked into this room and we didn't have the presence of cable like we have today.
And it was, you know, ABC and NBC and CBS.
And, you know, some young whippersnapper walks in and I said, hey, Mr. Speaker.
And you turn and you say, hey, what's going on?
You know, you're being nice.
I was emceeing the event the night you became speaker.
And I said, would you mind doing my radio show tomorrow?
And everybody's looking.
The whole, it was like E.F. Hutton speaking.
And, you know, who is this guy, right?
And you say, of course I'll do it.
And you came on my show the next day.
When you stopped doing for a period early on in your speakership, you know, I said, would you mind?
Have a chance to host a show on CNBC.
Roger Ells had given me the opportunity.
He said, I'll give you the full hour.
And you understood this medium.
You understood before anybody else.
And you wouldn't believe how many senators and congressmen say no to coming on the shows.
And I'm like, why are you even there if you don't want to speak out?
You know, it's interesting, two things.
Jeff Wonsley, who had been my staff guy on that particular trip, wrote me this morning.
I had seen us together last night and reminded me that he said, after you left, I turned to him and I said, you know, that guy's going to go somewhere.
I don't remember that.
Boy, you saw something I didn't see it myself.
I'll show you that.
I still think, you know, I just haven't been caught yet that somebody's going to realize he doesn't belong here.
No, I'm going to send you Jeff's email because it's a very nice, cute email.
But the other thing, I don't know if you know this, I did my first talk radio stint in the summer of 1960.
Wow.
Wow.
And on WHP in Harrisburg, there was a guy there who had done a local talk show for years and years.
And I'd gone back home since my family was originally from Harrisburg.
And he said, well, why don't you go on down and we'll talk politics?
And so there I was between my junior and senior years in high school doing talk radio.
So I've had a long belief that you reach an amazing number of people.
And I think part of what most guys don't get is, you know, go, and this was one of Trump's great advantages in 2015 and 16.
You know, these guys will go out and they'll raise all this money to put paid commercials on, which are less believed than the actual person in terms of authenticity.
Meanwhile, you could go on a talk show, whether yours or any of the many others that now exist.
You're reaching a huge audience.
You sound authentic.
It didn't cost you a penny.
And these guys just don't, they don't get it.
The same thing was true with C-SPAN when it came on.
I understood instantly that C-SPAN was the House Republicans' method of reaching beyond the areas the Democrats controlled.
And my colleagues would all look at me like I was nuts.
Why are you going over there and talking to an empty room?
And I'd say to him, you know, there's a quarter million people watching C-SPAN at any given minute.
How far would you travel to speak to 250,000 people?
Well, I travel one building.
And they couldn't get it.
It's still sadly still true.
And Republicans just don't understand the power of the media.
It's mind-numbing to me.
It really is because you're right.
It's an opportunity.
And people want to hear from politicians.
This is where if you stand up for the people and those simple principles, and you can expand on my list of things, but that is, to me, if you break it down in all its simplicity, what conservatives stand for, that's it.
And we've allowed the left to demonize us and create this false narrative, the playbook, two years, every four years, Republicans are racist, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
They want dirty air and water and want to kill grandma.
That's their narrative.
But they're really now the party of elites, coastal elites at this point, aren't they?
They really are.
And you see this over and over again.
A couple of things I'm going to be doing at Gingrich 360.
One is the Oregon Department of Education has now issued mathematics guidelines saying that you shouldn't actually use numbers in mathematics because it's a sign of white supremacy.
And you shouldn't require people to learn the two plus two equals four because that's an imperialistic concept.
And I'm going to write a piece saying we ought to defund the Oregon Department of Education because it's insane.
The other is there's this proposed pledge to the Navy that is crazy, that would have every person in the Navy pledging to understand in some complex language that nobody understands.
And it's all these left-wing people who are out there, the sort of woke elite, who want to impose on the rest of us their vision of reality.
And I think it's extraordinarily dangerous.
And I think the Biden administration, in that sense, is rapidly on the way to being the most dangerous administration in American history.
Well, I don't doubt that at all.
And I think you're right on so many different fronts.
You know, the void that Rush leaves, he's irreplaceable.
And you know, and you are very close friends with him.
And you know as well as anybody.
And when people ask me, first, I can't imagine life, any major political moment, and not having his voice.
That's like, I can't even imagine it.
And when people ask me, well, what does that mean?
It means that we got to up our game because we just lost our best player.
That's the answer.
Everyone has to up their game.
And I mean that.
The whole team, the whole team has to pull together.
And frankly, I urge everybody to focus on 2022.
Don't get sucked into the news media desire to have us fight a Republican Civil War.
Let's focus on winning the House, winning back the Senate, and on creating and talking through a new generation of solutions based on exactly the list that you laid out, which I think is a very solid list and is at the heart of modern American conservatism.
I think Rush would have endorsed it.
He would want us to take the mantle of the fight, the passion.
And I said yesterday, his bucket, we now know what his bucket list consisted of.
Staying on the air, going through hell, these treatments, and not going on a trip, not climbing Mount Everest or going to Hawaii.
It was to be with his audience.
It's an amazing statement.
By the way, we should take just a minute to remind everybody that Senator Bob Dole has now announced that he also has stage four cancer.
And our prayers should go out for Bob.
I literally just heard this.
Yes.
Sad.
I agree.
Listen, the cancer, the treatments, it's brutal.
It's hell.
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We're now joined by our friend Jeff Lord, former Reagan administration official.
He's got his own podcast, The Word of the Lord.
Some people take that the wrong way.
Sort of like Rush saying, with talent on loan from God, you know, the way he would say it.
And have my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair, all that stuff.
He joins us, also was a dear friend of Rush and even communicated with him very recently.
We lost a dear friend.
One thing I will tell you about Jeff Lord is that, you know, there's not many people in media at all that will ever defend any of us that are conservative on the radio.
One guy that always, always, always has been there to help is Jeff Lord, who himself then became a victim of the cancel culture over at Fake News CNN.
Anyway, sir, welcome back to the program.
You know, we lost our best player on the field by far.
And I just keep telling everybody we all have to, as spokes in one wheel, up our game.
Rush would want that.
You're absolutely right.
I mean, it's now in our hands.
And, you know, life moves on.
But I did want to tell you this funny story the last time I had a communication for him from him.
I was listening to him one day, and he was talking about, we both watched Brett Baer's special report at night.
And Brett occasionally has Harold Ford, the former Tennessee congressman who's in the financial business now in New York.
And Harold was on one night, and behind him in his apartment, which I later learned may not have been his, but there was a portrait of Chairman Mao.
Well, Rush picked up on this and was talking about this on air and what this means about the leftist mindset and all of this kind of thing.
And he was laughing about it.
And I thought, well, you know, interesting story, funny because I'd seen the same thing.
Well, the next time Harold was on, I'm watching this.
And, oh, he's not in front of the Mao portrait anymore.
He's in the kitchen.
Well, see, the power of Rush right there.
He just got rid of the Mao.
I was sitting there.
Didn't Harold Ford Jr.
say, no, no, no, I'm running the house.
It's furnished or something?
Yes.
Yes, he did.
Well, I was so amused by this that I shot off a note to Rush.
It was treatment week.
And I thought, God, if anybody needs a little cheering up and a laugh, it's him.
Well, the next morning, I wake up and there's an answer.
It's January 27th.
And he says, I saw that, Jeffrey.
He was in his kitchen in front of the stove faucet you would use to fill a pot of pasta, pasta, or some such.
White brick background.
We forced him to move his laptop to his stovetop.
Oh, good grief.
That's hilarious.
You know, there's just nobody like him.
You know, you think of, you know, the unique take that Rush would have on anything.
This is how nuts things are.
Democrats have introduced a resolution to permanently ban Trump from ever stepping foot on Capitol grounds.
You have a lawmaker putting forward a bill out in California that would block the Trump name from even being put on a park bench.
I mean, this is how nuts people are.
You have another bill that would ban any president that's been impeached twice from being buried at Arlington.
You've got House Democrats, on the other hand, hiring social justice activists who called looting a vital form of social protest.
House Democrats hiring that.
Our friend David Schoen, canceled by a law school.
He's a civil rights attorney.
And then you got fake news, CNN, and MSDNC paying this left-wing activist, this guy, John Sullivan from Black Lives Matter, 70 grand.
This is the guy charged in the Capitol riots, getting a check from fake news, CNN, and MSDNC.
You know, Sean, this is a serious, serious problem that we have here.
And, you know, this began with those of you on air, with Rush, with you, with later Tucker and Laura, et cetera.
And now it's graduated to taking Fox off cable and all of this kind of thing and all of these things that you just mentioned.
It all comes from the same thing.
It's intolerance of diversity, intellectual diversity, and it's fascism, flat out.
And, you know, that was the charge that I had raised when writing about you when they were going after you in 2017.
And I said, you know, let's be plain here.
This is fascism, American fascism.
And, you know, God bless you.
By the way, an establishment figure extraordinaire, Jonah Goldberg, wrote the book with the name Liberal Fascism.
Liberal fascism.
I guess he wouldn't say it today.
He probably would think his own language is over the top.
Yeah, a publisher might cancel him.
This is a real problem.
And the best way that I can figure out how to fight this is, you know, your show, the other shows, you know, columns, podcasts, et cetera.
But we cannot let this kind of thing go on here.
I mean, this is just unacceptable when they canceled, what was it, Senator Hawley's book contract with Simon ⁇ Schuster, David Schoen's problem.
You know, this kind of thing began in a way in college campuses, and it's now spread.
And, you know, we've got a real fight on our hands.
And I'm, among other things, aside from missing Rush on a personal level, I'm really sorry he's not here for this because he got this to his core.
You know, and he taught so many now generations of us.
And, you know, it's funny to me because if you listen to the left, you listen to liberals, they claim that they have a monopoly of compassion for minorities in America.
And Republicans, they are racist.
Well, it's interesting because there are now amnesty policies, which they have now unveiled, and it is amnesty.
It's everything we said it would be.
Even Joe threatening on the Second Amendment, he's threatening to even use executive orders, something Kamala Harris had said.
And I listen, that's going to be, so we have 17 million people, 19 million people out of work with the pandemic.
So we don't have those jobs.
With the stroke of a pen, we're losing high-paying career jobs all over the energy sector and those support businesses that will go under as a result also.
And now we're going to have all these illegal immigrants come into the country.
It's going to drive wages down to next to nothing.
And when they fire these guys that are working on the pipeline and in energy jobs, again, $100,000 a year and a lot more, depending on what their skill level is and the time they've worked in the industry.
Well, just we want you to get another union job.
Well, what other union job?
Where's that going to come from?
Right.
Sean, I remember in the past when you were making a move to help people get jobs out in, was it North Dakota or?
North Dakota, Texas, Oklahoma.
We were working with all these energy companies.
It changed people's lives.
It was an amazing moment.
Exactly.
And the point is, Sean, you couldn't do that if the jobs were no longer there.
And when they're going to crush these jobs and blithely say, as John Kerry said, well, let them build solar panels.
I mean, this is mind-boggling insensitivity.
And it's going to do and is doing right now real damage to some people.
They lose a good paying job like this, and all the dominoes in terms of sending their kids to schools and just getting food on the table are going to fall.
And all because of this, you know, unbelievable, arrogant elitism here that these people have.
I'll tell you, these are amazing times.
And now is the time.
Now that the second shift show charade is over and the impeachment madness is now officially over, now maybe we'll pay attention to what Biden's doing with amnesty.
Now maybe we'll pay attention to his student loan forgiveness.
Who's going to pay the 50 grand per student?
Now we'll look at his not only open border policies, the end of energy independence in the country, the high taxes that are coming, ruling by executive fiat, ignoring an entire branch of government, and that being the legislative branch.
And maybe people begin to understand that, yeah, this is real.
And this is extraordinarily radical, the most radical agenda any major party ever ran on, and now it's being implemented.
Well, that's right.
And the way they're going to come to understand this is one, from the practical effect, like all these guys out there on the Keystone pipeline who are now out of work.
But they're going to understand it through conservative media because we're the ones who are going to put the spotlight on all of these different things to do just as Rush did, to help educate people, to help enlighten.
I was going through, I have a copy that came not long ago of his last Limbaugh letter that I subscribed to.
And the very back of it, he has a whole section there on I am a reporter.
And he talks about the liberal media bias and he made it his mission to report the facts and context, etc.
Well, that ball is now in our hands.
So on we go.
It's funny.
I'll tell you an ongoing conversation he and I have been having.
This is over the last number of months.
And it's about the future of the country.
And he, I don't know, I think it's because I'm raised Irish Catholic.
I really believe that.
You're always waiting for the next whatever to blow up on your head.
And I'm superstitious.
I have no idea.
But he had a far more optimistic belief that America will overcome all of this.
What I'm afraid of and what I'm concerned with, and these are long texts that we're sending back and forth.
I think you get to the point of no return that you can't undo socialism without major, massive, huge disruption and the painful transition that would accompanying it, would be accompanying it.
And he acknowledged that he, yeah, at some point it becomes that difficult.
But on the other hand, I think we can all argue that Donald Trump turned things around much more quickly than anyone ever thought with record low unemployment for every demographic in the country.
You take COVID out of the equation for the 2020 election.
I can make you an argument Donald Trump could have won 45 states.
Yeah, yeah, I agree totally.
Well, the one thing is, Sean, if I learned anything from working for President Reagan, I mean, he knew in his gut that the Soviet Union, if pushed, would collapse in on itself.
And I think that's what's going to have with this kind of thing.
We know what we've seen in Texas with all the frozen windmill things.
I mean, how dumb.
It's a disaster.
And Rick Perry is right.
They don't want to get on the federal grid system.
Texas is the only state that has their independence.
But Jeff, you're a good man.
We love you.
And thank you as always for all you do and being with us.
And his podcast is the word of the, by the way, it's very Russian.
It's very limbaugh-like.
The word of the Lord, Jeffrey Lord.
Anyway, thank you, sir.
All right, news Roundup Information Overload hour coming up next.
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End your calls.
We've got time for a call here.
Let's say hi to Tyler.
He's in the great state of Missouri.
Missouri, obviously, morning for our friend Rush.
Thanks, Tyler, for calling.
Glad you joined us.
Most certainly, Sean, under better circumstances would have been nice.
But I go back with Rush Limbaugh to 1994.
I had just gotten back into radio after maybe 10 months' absence or whatever it was.
And a regional radio group from Rush's hometown had bought our station and some others in the area.
And they kind of, you know, in our case, we were playing some old music, country music or some pop from the 60s, 70s, 80s.
And next thing you know, by 93 and certainly in 94, you've got Barry Farber and Rush Limbaugh and Paul Harvey and all those guys on this format.
But even more importantly, you know, I was kind of feeling my way into politics at that time more so than even before.
And I would sit in the control room rather than sitting at my own desk.
And I tried to do as much as my own work in there when I was probably 23 years old and gobbling up these programs, particularly Limbaugh at the time.
And you think about how he just transformed that industry.
I no longer work in it, but I did for a number of years.
And, you know, he became bigger than Paul Harvey.
And I like to, and to the family, I'm sure they'll get it.
He was even cooler than Wolfman Jack on a side note because he was such a music fan.
Yeah, you know, you're one of my old-time radio buddies.
It's like when I talk to Scott Shannon, Annity, Shannon.
I'm like, oh, you know, and this is the guy that created Morning Zoo Radio.
I mean, there's so many great, amazing broadcasters.
You mentioned Paul Harvey.
Good day.
I mean, phenomenal people.
I had a chance to meet Paul Harvey only once.
And I know his son.
His son is a great guy, Paul Harvey Jr.
And I met him at one of the Radio Hall of Fame indunctions, and it was in Chicago.
And he's just such a gracious man.
We're so blessed to be in this industry.
Are you still in it at all, Tyler, or no?
No, I got out about 13 years ago and just doing my small business pursuits.
But I always enjoyed my time in it.
And Rush was aware of it.
You understand the constraints of time.
I could talk to my radio friends all day.
You know what?
He's taught us all a lot.
Tyler, he's been a rock star.
And sorely, sorely missed.
Thank you, my friend.
God bless you.
I wish I had more time.
I apologize for that.
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Before I introduce a dear friend of the show and a personal friend, our friend Dan Bongino, he has his website, bongino.com, which is just going up gangbusters.
And they had a great article on Rush, and it was the 20 greatest quotes of Rush Limbaugh.
I can't read it.
Some are very long, so I won't read the long ones.
They're all great.
And you can go to danbongino.com and get the link.
We'll even link it up on our website.
For government to give, it must first take away.
Think of that.
The people that make this country work, the people who pay on their mortgages, the people getting up and going to work and striving in this recession to not participate in it, they're not the enemy.
They're the people you hire.
They're the people that are going to give you a job.
Another one.
Now, what's the left's worldview in general?
What is it?
If you had to attach not a philosophy, but an attitude to the leftist worldview, it's one of pessimism and darkness and sadness.
They're never happy, are they?
They're always angry about something.
No matter what they get, they're always angry.
He went on to say, liberals always exempt themselves from the rules they impose on others.
It's like Congress.
They pass bills, but they're not subject to their own bills, right?
They have their own health care system, not Obamacare.
Liberals measure compassion by how many people are given welfare.
Conservatives measure compassion by how many people no longer need it.
It's been said by a lot of people, but it's worth repeating.
He said, I'm not opposed to the protection of animals, but the best way to do that is to make sure some human being owns them.
You know that drives animal rights activists nuts.
He said that morality is not defined and cannot be defined by individual choice.
No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity and results that work, that don't involve government, threatens liberals.
And then he said, let me tell you who we conservatives are.
We love people.
When we look out over the U.S., when we are anywhere, when we see a group of people such as this anywhere, we see Americans.
We see human beings.
We don't see groups.
We don't see victims.
Another, in a country of children where the option is Santa Claus or work, what wins?
Another one, the world's biggest problem is the unequal distribution of capitalism.
If there were capitalism everywhere, you wouldn't have food shortages.
Another, progress is not striving for economic justice or fairness, but economic growth.
One more, two more.
You know why there's a Second Amendment?
In case the government fails to follow the first one.
By the way, that was taken right out of our founders.
I know you're not allowed to quote them today.
What about feeling sorry for those who pay taxes?
Those are the people that no one ever feels sorry for.
They're asked to give and give and give and give until they have no more to give.
And when they say enough, they're called selfish.
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Dan, Sarah, welcome back to the program.
Yeah, good to talk to you, Sean.
I know you're pretty banged up over this.
Man, you and Rush were just, you talk about them all.
I used to still talk about them all the time.
You know, whether it's private or public conversations, your reverence for him was something to behold.
I said last night in your show, even when you and I would chat, you know, kind of offline.
And when it came to Rush, you know, sometimes we talk about radio, but you wouldn't even talk about it.
You're like, you know what?
I could tell you, it just, you can't fathom a world without Rush because you've been enmeshed in it for so long.
And I said on my show this morning, think about this, right?
And I'm probably being generous with these mile markers.
Within the last two decades, right, you couldn't drive 25 miles or more anywhere in America without between 12 and 9 o'clock at night hitting either you, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin.
Like that, think about that.
That's really amazing.
Like you could turn on a radio anywhere in America and drive probably closer to 15 miles and you would get a signal anywhere where you could hear you three guys.
And I know you always attributed that to Rush.
I mean, he, you know, he, like I said on your show again last night, I hate to repeat it, but it's so true.
It's not that he was the best player in the game.
It's that he was the best player in the game for decades.
He was the number one player in the game.
And then he invented the darn game, the whole conservative.
You know, it's such a great way to put it.
You know, when you really think through this, and I told the story about the AM band, and it was headed, you know, for extinction in many industry experts' minds.
And then along came Rush, and what started at less than 200 radio stations when that were formatting for talk radio, it grew to 4,000.
It's the most listened-to format in radio.
And then if you really extend it out and you listen to, well, you can listen to streaming on any host website or station website, then you can take it out a little further and you can even look at the options of satellite radio.
Then you can take it out a little bit further and where you have had phenomenal success in podcasting.
And that's another way that people get to hear even more voices.
And I like the idea of more voices.
You know, Rush always understood this isn't a zero-sum game, that his success was somehow predicated on somebody else's failure.
Just the opposite.
He actually championed the success of people like you and myself and Mark and others.
I mean, yeah, and we all benefited from the trailblazing of Rush Limbaugh and the path that he forged.
Yeah, you know, it was really an amazing kind of phone game chain of information.
You know, you'd have kind of new guys to the field and the space like me.
You know, I've only been doing this for about five years.
And, you know, I'd.
Yeah, I'm just a former New York City cop.
I'm just, you know, former Secret Service agent.
I wasn't doing anything important before this.
Go ahead.
I was bored hanging around my house, figuring I'd do a podcast.
So, you know, I, of course, you know, met you through Fox and radio.
And as we got to be friendly, I'd call you for advice because, you know, you're one of those guys who's dominated two spaces.
That's very rare, TV and radio.
Just the fact.
I mean, I know you're uncomfortable with praise, but it's just true.
I hate it.
I was just about to say, all right, enough about me.
Let's move on.
Yeah, you hate that.
I know you hate it, but it's just true.
But it's interesting because even though you and your own right have had a very successful radio show, every time we would ask, I'd ask you for advice about the audio product, whether it's digital, terrestrial, I'm on terrestrial, not nearly as many markets as you, but you would always say, you know, like some form of the iteration of it would be something like, well, what would Rush think?
Right.
You would always go back to what Rush told you or what Rush was thinking or what you think Rush would be thinking.
And I'm telling you, I'd scratch my head.
I'd be like, man, he really, really like holds Rush in such unbelievably high regard.
I'm not saying this.
I'm not making this up because I'm on his show.
This is the truth.
Sean actually said all the time, what would Rush say?
Here's what Rush told me.
You would say, here's another one.
Remember, you did those 20 quotes.
Here's the best Sean Hannity quotes about Rush Limbaugh.
Rush told me once, Rush is thinking, I think Rush would be thinking.
I'll check with Rush.
Hold on, Rush told me once.
You know, one time Rush told me this.
I mean, you said that so much.
And it really, Levin's the same way.
And it really spoke to, I mean, really, put your success aside for a minute, like a guy in your position now that you constantly go back and we're paying tribute to this guy speaks to the greatness of this guy.
I mean, this is a huge hole, Sean.
This is like the equivalent of like a terrestrial radio black hole.
I mean, who fills that spot?
Who fills that spot?
Rush Limbaugh.
The answer is, the answer is you can't.
You can't replace Pey Bruth.
You can't replace Mickey Mantle.
You can't replace Hank Garon.
You can't replace Derek Jeter.
You just can't.
I mean, and you know, I will say this, and I want to move on to a couple of things.
Now, we're all blessed, and my answer is, all right, we lost our best player, up our game, up our game.
So I'm telling everybody right now, up your game.
And you've been doing so phenomenally well.
And first thing I want to address, you yourself, and you've been public about it, or I'd never bring it up.
You had your own cancer battle.
And you've just finished your treatments.
And if any part of this you want me to not talk about, stop me immediately.
And you are feeling great.
I think you have today another test, if my memory serves me well.
Or it was yesterday, rather.
And you were supposed to call me.
You supposed to text me and you didn't.
I'm not going to ask you to tell me on the air.
I'm just hoping it's all good news.
No, it wasn't.
But I will tell you on the air because I just found out, actually.
So I took an MRI yesterday and I just got, you know, it takes a while for them to read it.
And, you know, it looks like I've got some mass in my lungs.
So, you know, it's just hard to constantly deal with this.
We don't know what it is yet, but I'm going to send it out to MD Anderson, have them look at it too.
But it was big enough that, you know, it's not the kind of thing you want to hear.
And, you know, that's why the Rush story to me, outside of the fact that he, I mean, literally changed my life, I wouldn't, I would have never met you if it wasn't for Rush Limbaugh ever.
Because I wouldn't be a conservative if it wasn't for Rush.
That's why his story, you know, and the whole cancer thing, I mean, I thought I was done.
I was hoping to get a couple weeks apiece, and I didn't even get that before I'm back to the athlete.
So, you know, the batter with.
Now I know why you didn't text me and you didn't have an air.
I mean, but you started with stage one lymphoma, Dan, right?
Yeah, and that's what's so strange because I'm having a lot of breathing problems when I work out and stuff.
And that's the only reason I went back in.
And, you know, they found some stuff on a PET scan.
And they said, oh, maybe it's a little pneumonia and, you know, give you some antibiotics.
That was a month ago.
And then I went in yesterday for this MRI and he's like, well, this is a pneumonia, you know, so I don't know what it is.
You know, he's a, he's a tech, the guy.
He doesn't want to give you any medical advice, but he's like, it definitely shouldn't be there.
So I don't know.
It could be nothing.
And, you know, I'm just a hypochondriac at this point.
But that.
No, you're not a hypochondriac.
Listen, I was so hopeful that I knew you had finished your recent treatments and you had your last one.
And I'm just praying that this is not the bad.
There are other growths that are not what it could be.
And I hope we know soon.
It sounds like you got it early because you got this early treatment.
I'm hoping.
Did they say that they believe it's contained?
Well, you know, I don't know.
They don't know yet.
So I'll probably have to go for another pet.
You know, like when Rush said that time on his show when he first, the first few weeks, when he revealed he had cancer, and he said that this line, it really hit home because when he said that, I knew I had cancer, but I didn't know what kind or how aggressive or what staging.
And he said, you know, we all know we're doomed, right?
We all know we have an expiration date.
That's obvious.
But Rush said something to the effect of, but when you start to figure out what that date is, like everything changes.
And I knew exactly what he was saying because that's what I started getting really obviously frightened and terrified about.
I was like, you know, is this really serious?
I mean, am I going to, what do I got?
20 years, five years?
I don't know.
I mean, I had a friend in the Secret Service who got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and, you know, sadly passed in three months.
And you start thinking all these crazy things.
And, you know, I think I'll be okay.
I mean, I'm a pretty healthy guy, and I'm ready for these kind of folks.
All our love and prayers as you go through this.
And we're hoping for the most innocuous diagnosis and the most phenomenal prognosis.
You know, look, don't take this the wrong way.
If you start getting sick and dying on me, I'm going to kill you first.
Because I like that.
You're just a dear friend, and we love you.
I know everybody on this program loves you, and everybody's going to be praying for you now hearing this.
And you're being so open.
And I did not expect that answer, Dan.
I didn't.
And I've been talking to you regularly about your treatments.
I'm a little taken back by it, to be honest.
And I'm, you know, I want that answer sooner than later.
Oh, I would, too.
And I didn't, you know, you got a job to do.
And I just, I'm telling you, I just found out about half an hour ago.
So I just, you know, it's just a lot to take.
So that's why I'm so emotional on Fox and Friends this morning, too, about Rush.
I was waiting, eagerly waiting to get the news, you know, and, you know, all I wanted to hear was it was nothing, you know, and I didn't hear that.
And I'm just praying for that call one day where they say, oh, don't worry, it's just a beast thing or a scratch, and I'm yet to get that call.
So it's just disappointing.
Well, we'll hopefully do because they did a phenomenal job.
I know some of the people that worked on your case and the treatment, they were very aggressive in treating the lymphoma.
It was caught very, very early.
And that's the thing.
You know what?
The biggest thing that with all cancers and some are far worse than others, leukemias and Hodgkin's disease, you know, it's almost completely curable, especially in lymphoma when it's caught early.
I know somebody that's had lymphoma 26 years that also had a spot on the lung and it ended up with one lobe being removed, but everything has been fine now for years.
And it's just scary times.
We're all praying for you.
I can't let you go without asking about Parlor.
And I know people want that free speech forum.
If you could just give us a slight quick update.
Yeah, so we're back up.
I mean, obviously they did a lot of damage on the way out.
So you have to go to parlor.com to log on.
But yeah, I mean, it's slow.
It's running slow, but it's running.
We've had some ups and downs over the last few days, but I can't emphasize to your audience enough.
You know, listen, I'm not asking for anybody's excuses or any nonsense.
It should run great, but they did a lot of damage on the way out, these companies to us.
They really did.
And it's been, as you well know, from me giving you like the scoops sometimes, it is like, it's been a real mess trying to get it back up.
I mean, we jump through hoops and back.
We need healthy alternatives.
You know, I used to always say we need to become the media.
We need to become social media now.
And we need our own platforms because obviously we're not wanted elsewhere if you're a conservative.
All right.
Dan Bongino, we love you.
We're praying for a quick, speedy, well, first for a great diagnosis.
That would be something called benign.
And I know you've been through a lot of tough days and weeks recently.
And we want you back.
We want you healthy.
We want you around for a long, long period of time.
And we love you, and we're all praying for you.
Thanks, Bloody.
And I know I really appreciate that.
Likewise.
Thanks a lot.
All right.
Quick break, right back.
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800-941-Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Big time, AJ, Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
I know I feel sorry for big time.
Big time, do you have your power on?
Big time, Sean Hannity.
I got to go silent here because my man Rush Limbaugh is gone and we all, I thought some prayers goes out to the family and Bongino as well.
Rush was the Jackie Robinson of talk radio, just like Jackie Robinson was the man of the hour of his time.
And big time, Sean, we doing just fine here in Texas.
And the worst part about it is I came out of power last night and got back on by four hours.
I got lucky.
How cold did your house get?
How cold was your house?
Oh, it wasn't bad.
It wasn't bad.
It was because I had power all the time.
They doing these rolling blackouts for some odd reason.
And it wasn't bad.
Well, that's not for some odd reason.
A lot of the reason is the wind turbines are frozen and not working.
Well, you know, it's so much for the Green Deal.
I hope the Republicans have enough gohones.
Like Rush said, I hope they have enough gohones to go after that Green Deal bullcrap.
And let's get back to the regular energy that God gave us to use.
And that goes to show you the good Lord, he controls what goes on, not man.
So, America, don't let these left-wing idiots tell you that they can control stuff because they can't.
We all see it here in Houston and Texas itself, what happened.
Look, we've never seen nothing like this in Texas.
And what really should have never, we had days of warning and look like them people that's up there in that city hall or wherever they at, they didn't take the heat like they didn't do at the Capitol building.
They had warning and they didn't take the precautions to do what they needed to do.
So, everybody's here.
We are helping everybody, trying to make sure everybody's got water.
I've been running, making sure people got generators and all this stuff for these, you know, apartments, houses and pipes busing.
And, uh.
Oh, that's a big problem down there.
Yeah, it's going to be a big fix problem.
You know, and the media is beating the crap out of Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz, you know, he has a family.
He has kids, and he was flying his daughter down in Cancun.
He's coming back tomorrow.
He's gone less than 24 hours.
And, oh, Ted Cruz left.
No, he didn't leave town.
He has to be a parent, too.
You can balance both.
Just unfair.
You know, I got to tell you big time: guys like me, Rush, Joe Paggs, our buddy that I know you're friends with, and you call into.
We're lucky to have friends like you that are such loyal supporters.
We love you.
Exactly.
Praying for my friends down in Houston.
I'm going to say the torch is going to rush passing the torch to you, Joe Pags, Mark Levin.
We're all in this together.
We all have to up our game.
That's what I'm telling everybody.
Up our game.
We lost our best player, AJ.
No, we lost our best player.
Hey, left a map for you guys.
And even though y'all do your own thing, y'all got the game plan.
And we're going to back y'all 5,000%.
So keep the good work up.
And Lord bless and Lord help us all because when Biting him get through with this, I pray to God Donald Trump run again so he can fix this mess like he did Obama.
Oh, and I got a CD of Rush that I'm going to cherish for the rest of my life.
A 60-year-old black man calling the rush.
That was when Obama, when me and you was yanking him back when Obama days, I got the CD of me and Rush.
So I'm going to cherish that to the day I die.
I'm glad you have that.
I'm glad you have that.
Oh, my God.
Thank God.
We're praying for our friends down in Texas.
God bless Texas.
Thank you, sir.
All right, to our busy telephones here.
Let's see.
South Carolina.
I think it's Willie.
Willie, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
So glad you called.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Well, I'm 18 years old.
I'm from South Carolina, and I'd never heard the term before, but I guess I am what you call a Rush baby.
I grew up listening to Rush, getting out from school, and my mom picked me up.
And I may not have known exactly what he was talking about then, but it really did help shape my views early on and led to my involvement today.
I now can say I serve in our state Republican Party as the vice chair of our teenage Republicans.
That's amazing.
And you know what?
I hope you picked out what college you're going to yet?
Well, you know, trying to stay in state.
I love South Carolina.
And another thing is that I see.
That's a great school.
I have friends that went to Gamecock.
Yeah.
Just an hour ago, our governor signed the Heartbeat Bill.
So we now have a restriction on abortions in the state starting today.
Of course, pending legal challenges to stop abortions at a heartbeat.
I'm going to offer you unsolicited advice.
Here's my unsolicited advice.
You now, because when I was in my teens, my parents couldn't take it because I'd be up late at night listening to the radio.
It wasn't TV.
I didn't have a TV problem, although I'd sneak watching hockey games anytime I could.
But I'd listen to him.
I'd hear my father who's in the next room.
And like, okay, I can hear him coming.
And he'd come in the room.
Turn the radio off or I'm going to smash it.
You ever do that with your kids?
Give me, if you, if you don't stop with that phone, I'm going to take it and bust it up like Hillary.
I mean, I'll use bleach bit on it.
But in all seriousness, if you have this passion at 18 for what's going on in the world and your country, Well, this is like your call to duty.
And maybe that's your calling in life.
And maybe when you go to USC, maybe they have a great journalism school there.
I know that for a fact.
Whatever it is, we need as many people your age as possible to carry that torch, to use AJ's terms, and continue the battle for liberty and freedom because it never ends.
And it's going to be guys like you that do it.
And it's going to be gals like you that do it.
All right, my friend.
Good luck in your luck in everything you're doing.
Keep us updated.
We want to know.
All right, let's say hi to Jim is in Florida.
Hey, Jim, how are you?
Glad you called.
How are you doing, Sean?
It's an honor to be on the phone with you.
Thank you, sir.
But I know I could probably speak for you and say that we're both numb right now.
And, you know, I'm not going to lie.
I'm numb.
And Dan Bongino just made me number.
I'm literally in a state of shock right now.
And I'm praying hard.
That's exactly where I'm at.
I mean, you know, 20 years ago, when I pulled off the road on US1 and somehow my radio was on AM, and I heard a guy talking about America, how much he loved it.
And the courage that he gave for these past 20 years too.
I'm sorry, Sean.
I don't know.
Why would you apologize for being a real human being?
Don't apologize.
I've had many tears myself.
Don't apologize for caring.
That shows you have a heart of gold.
Take your time.
There's no rush here.
Take a deep breath.
I get it.
Everyone gets it.
But he was my radio dad.
I mean, there's sons.
He never had any kids.
But there are sons and daughters all over this country that are missing their radio dad right now.
But, you know, I'm going to calm down here for a second.
And, you know, I always tell my guys, you know, out here working, you know, of course, Rush was the optimist, but I always say, oh, before P, guys, O before P. Optimism before pessimism.
It's in the dictionary.
You get to that word first.
And I wouldn't have been saying those words, but I would have never been on, seen that AM dial that day.
And for some reason, Rush was on there talking about how great America was 20 years ago.
You know, and I'm going to be eternally grateful for a guy that just made me love my country more than you can imagine.
It's just unbelievable.
Let me say this to you.
You know, and I want you to hear me on this.
I always use the analogy that we're spokes in a wheel.
And this much I can tell you about Rush.
And he was stoic as can be.
And I knew a lot more than most about how hard his treatments were, how he tufted out days to get on the air.
You know, he faked it.
He's such a pro.
You know, he'd go on the air, and I knew he was feeling like crap.
And he'd do it because that was his bucket list.
That's where he wanted to be.
He wanted to be with us.
That's how much he cared.
He didn't want to go.
He could have done anything he wanted.
I had enough money to do anything he wanted.
He wanted to be on the air with his audience.
And, you know, there's a lesson in that for all of us.
And he also lived life to the fullest.
He followed his passions of computers and technology and golf and all the things that he did enjoy in life.
Found the love of his life.
I was at his wedding 10 years ago.
This is the most fun I've ever had at a wedding ever.
I mean, Elton John played.
It was crazy.
Got a standing ovation after every song.
After the first song, he stands up and he goes, I know many of you are wondering, what the hell am I doing here?
And it was everyone rip roaring laughing because he's, you know, more politically liberal.
He said, I'm about bringing people together.
It was actually a pretty beautiful moment.
I would say this: you know, there's a time for mourning.
There's a time for healing.
There's a time, a season for everything.
And for all of us, if you really want to honor Rush, in my humble opinion, in my interpretation, his life's work, his calling, his mission, what he was born to do was to espouse these great values and principles that believe in God's great creation of every human being and God's gifts being brought to fruition in a society of liberty and freedom.
If I could just sum it up that way, inarticulate as it might be, that's what he wanted for all of us.
And what he'd want for us is to take what all that he's given us, the foundation that he's built, the framed house that he's constructed, and he'd want us to do the finished work on that house.
And that would be, that's what I mean when I'm saying we need to all up our game.
We lost our best player.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
And you know, one thing that I know right now, Sean, you're my radio brother.
You're going to hold one big torch, sir.
Well, thank God there's a lot of us, our friends, our local hosts, all over the country.
You know, the great one.
I'm everybody.
Every single host.
You know, there's maybe like two people on radio that are total jackasses.
Everyone else is great.
I'm very lucky that I have many friends in this industry.
And I think they would all agree with me.
We've all benefited.
Every broadcaster on radio and even TV because it translated to TV.
It translated to podcasting.
It translated because he showed that there was a market for this that didn't exist before.
Thanks for a great call, Jim.
I think you speak for a lot of people today.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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