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800 nine-four-one Sean, you want to be a part of this extravagance.
I got some new developments we're going to get to as I'm going to have to explain to the media, the mob as you call them, and uh Democrats, not that they care to hear why.
Why isn't it important to have integrity and confidence in elections?
I I guess I have to give them a 101 on what it means.
You know, it's amazing.
Ron Johnson had a great line.
He goes, you know, they spent four years on Trump Russia collusion, and and it all turned out to be false.
We can spend four weeks and make sure that there's integrity and competence in the results of the election.
Uh that is an understatement of all understatement, uh, understatements.
Um, you've got Trump supporters attacked and beaten after Saturday's MAGA rally.
We in the mob, by the way, the media act like it didn't happen.
Many networks didn't even cover it.
Don't have any interest in covering it.
So we'll get to that today, too.
Um, also, I'm gonna explain, we'll get into the Dominion, but there's there's a bigger issue in Georgia that I've got to explain to people here that is and I've discussed it.
I'm paying attention to it, and this this dopey governor down in Georgia's not getting his act together, seems to be hiding out in the governor's mansion, just you know, scared to death to assert himself to fix what is a double standard in terms of checking signatures.
You can't have that in an election process.
Stacey Abrams, by the way, Georgia already bragging, 600,000 mail-in ballot requests.
You're going to see in Georgia an onslaught of it maybe as high, I've seen estimates as high as a billion dollars that is going to be spent by, I guess, both sides, but the Democrats, all this money flowing in from Hollywood, don't you don't the people of Georgia love the people in Hollywood telling them how they ought to be voting?
And an all-out push, Biden pledging to go down there and campaign for the Democrats running for the these two runoff Senate seats.
Um, and I'm telling you, if Georgian, if Georgia Republicans and Patriots don't get out and vote, it is your worst nightmare.
If uh if it if at the end of this process it's Joe Biden, hiding Biden, Trump President Trump in exile.
That might be their worst nightmare, too, because how often do you think they're gonna put Biden out?
How often can Joe Biden go out and talk to the American people?
You want to venture a guess?
He's gonna hide as much as he hid the campaign.
And the mob, the media, they'll give him full cover.
Before we get to that, I gotta, I just this is such huge news.
When you think of all we've been through.
January 21st, first case of coronavirus identified in America.
First case.
And here we are with now a second vaccine that has been developed by our friends at Moderna.
And all these companies deserve a lot of credit.
Pfizer, I know Johnson and Johnson, and I can't even name AstraZeneca.
They're all all went all in.
What I do love about pharmaceutical companies that like everybody else, they're competitive.
And they all wanted, you know, they we broke down the sequence of this virus faster than has ever happened in history, and now they're in the they're finishing the final stage human trials, and we got the announcement from FISA last Monday, perhaps a Monday too late, but putting that aside, that it's 90% effective.
Now, Moderna announced today their vaccine, their phase three trial data shows that their coronavirus vaccine is more than 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19, a result their CEO called a game changer.
Now, the analysis evaluated the 95 confirmed COVID-19 infections among the trials, 30,000 participants.
That's it.
And Moderna, which developed its vaccine in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said 90 cases of COVID-19 were observed in the placebo group versus five cases observed in the group that received its two-dose vaccine.
Now that resulted in an estimated 90 efficacy of 94.5%.
So between Moderna and Pfizer, the Health and Human Services Secretary Azar said that there will be roughly 40 million doses of vaccine available by the end of this year, enough to inoculate about 20 million people since both vaccines require two shots.
The goal to provide enough coronavirus vaccine doses to any American that wants to be vaccinated against the disease, you know, by the second quarter of next year.
Which means that, you know, this long nightmare, you know, hopefully is coming to an end.
Even I'm not sure why Fauci was out there saying social distancing masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.
You know, once somebody's been immunized, once the process is complete, that we can take our mask off.
Fauci said, well, I recommend uh that is not the case.
I'd recommend you have an added area of protection.
Um why, you know, at some point do we get to live life again?
And Biden pushing his mask mandate.
I just want to stop for a second and just say, you know, to all the people that work so hard on this, I mean, you just got to think of our medical researchers, scientists.
You know, people devote their entire life and their entire careers to viruses and vaccines and keeping people alive and working so hard, it just is a tribute to the the brilliant minds of so many in the medical community, and they deserve our thanks and our praise today for sure.
Um let me let me get to a couple of things here.
Well, I guess we're up to 72 plus million people voted for Donald Trump.
A lot of these states, as we all see, zero point uh 0.03% separation.
Very close, razor-thin margins.
Let me explain to those on the left that spent four years and that being the media mob and that being the Democratic Party, uh, delegitimizing Donald Trump's victory in 2016 and never accepting the results of the 2016 election.
Is this the United States of America?
Case you didn't know.
I know you know.
Okay, but my point is this.
Why are you so reluctant and resistant to ensuring that the American people have faith and integrity and confidence in its result, especially in light of a lot of different things we know that have gone on?
For example, we now know that in Pennsylvania, just days before the election, that they illegally extended the time that that when ballots came in to three additional days, and we saw the court decision in Pennsylvania for the ruling for the president last week, you're not allowed to do that.
That can't happen in this country.
But it did happen this year.
That's not playing by the rules, the rule of law.
That is not fair.
You're asking, well, why do people not trust the results?
Why do people have questions?
There's one reason right there.
We know every swing state now, because we have probably gone over this in more detail than most other people, has laws that specifically allow partisan observers, both sides, to watch over the entire process, and that means watch every single solitary vote being tabulated and being counted.
And then you've heard these people on TV that were there to do that job that were told that they had to quote observe from a hundred feet away, and other people filing affidavits they were allowed to observe from 20 feet away, or because of social distancing six feet away.
I don't know about most of you, six feet away.
I don't think you can really see enough.
Now, knowing that we needed social distancing considerations, they could have easily set up a system where somebody opens a ballot, tabulating a ballot, opening a envelope, whatever it happened to be, and then goes over, carefully places it six feet away, and then the Republican can go in and observe, and then the Democrat can go in and observe and either challenge it or not challenge it.
That would have been very easy to handle.
That did not happen, and we hear more people saying it every day.
We're going to get to this Dominion program in a second here.
Now, because I think we need the best voting machines available, and I'll explain why that's a big issue.
And you know, all these people, like for example, the one Michigan County.
Now we have in every state, these affidavits have been signed under the threat of perjury by eyewitnesses telling their stories about how things were not done the proper way.
For example, if it's the law that partisan observers get to watch the counting from start to finish and it didn't happen, well, then it raises questions about why.
And then it questions the integrity and the fairness and whether the law was broken.
And all these people are now signing these affidavits, and it just gets dismissed as being meaningless.
Now, I don't know about any of you.
I mean, regardless of who you might support to be the president elected president of the United States, I tend to think that you're not gonna lie in an affidavit with a threat of perjury because your candidate lost, or you think that your candidate lost.
I don't know.
I have a hard time.
Now, if it's five people, I could believe that.
Ten people, yeah, maybe two dozen, three dozen, hundreds and hundreds signing affidavits, threat of perjury.
Uh I don't think that many people would do that.
I know I wouldn't do it under any circumstances.
Uh so you know, that there's a lot of questions here.
So let me tell you where this has evolved into.
Now, I I think we've been one of the only people really highlighting this, and now it's getting a lot more attention.
And this is why the dopey governor down in Georgia needs to call in the legislature and solve some of the problems.
There was a lawsuit earlier this year by the Georgia Democratic Party, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and as a result of that lawsuit came a consent decree.
Now, if you're a same-day voter in Georgia, you go in, you show your uh a picture ID, uh, they check your signature, verify your signature based on a software data system they have, it matches, you go, you you cast your ballot.
As part of this lawsuit, consent decree agreement, that now changed for people that wanted mail-in ballots.
You can't have two sets of standards for signature verification.
And what that means is is if you requested a mail-in ballot in Georgia, then as long as the request and the ballot, as long as those signatures match, they said, okay, well, that will be good enough.
But that's not the same standard as the rest of the state.
Now that would be a lack of equal justice, wouldn't it?
Seems to me double standard.
And it seems to me you need a unified system.
And if you check the signatures, which is what I would be insisting on down in Georgia right now, and what the governor ought to call the state legislature back in session for.
This way everybody can have faith and confidence in whatever the result is.
Because Georgia is about to be inundated with millions, and I mean millions of dollars from every leftist group, every leftist cause, every Hollywood lib, every liberal Democrat, now to influence the people of Georgia.
And these two Senate runoff seats are a big deal.
And why the governor is not making sure that there are uniform standards, I, for the life of me, will never understand.
Makes no sense.
And he's like in hiding in the governor's mansion.
All right, 800 nine four one Sean Topre uh number you want to be a part of the program.
So there should be one standard.
Now, my understanding is, and I have no idea why the Secretary of State is doing what he's doing down in Georgia either.
And he's claiming the absentee ballots required photo ID.
But that is only for those that went online to request a ballot, not those who requested one by mail, which was the vast absent majority of absentee ballots.
I mean, are they just, you know, if I'm knowing more about them than they are, that concerns me.
I mean, this this is where a lot of this gets frustrating.
And, you know, Republicans just never seem to learn or unite or know how.
You know, look at what what Hillary Clinton had said before the election, right?
Never, Joe Biden should never concede to Donald Trump.
Uh Joe Biden bragging, I guess Eric Holder was heading it up.
600 lawyers all around the country all ready to go.
Um, what were they what were they hoping for?
Now I'm going to explain this thing as I understand it as it relates to the uh Dominion software issue.
I've explained it before, but I'll explain it again because so many of you I know have questions about it and what I know about it, and uh with some new information that I have that I want to share with you on all of this.
Uh a lot coming on, a lot coming up in the course of the program today.
Uh, including our friend Doug Collins is going to be with us, our friend Jim Gray, he's written a great book.
Uh, and we'll be checking in with David Schoen and Greg Jarrett, much much more.
We'll get to your calls all throughout the day.
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You know, I find This just these are really interesting times we live in here.
All the calls for, well, we've now got to unite.
The election is over, accept uh uh the results immediately.
I find this fascinating when uh when did the where were the Democrats that called for unity when we had four separate investigations and the lies, the conspiracy theories that there was Trump Russia collusion in the 2016 election?
Wait, can you think of or name one Democrat that ever said enough is enough?
Is there one Democrat that read the Mueller report, the fourth investigation at that time, that said no evidence exists that ever said, okay, can we let this go now?
Nobody did.
Or the fact that Hillary had her dirty dossier, or that the dirty, unverifiable, debunked, dirty dossier she paid for, became the bulk of information without by the way, three people now on record.
Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, whenever you got the third one, that all now saying, but Rod Rosenstein, all saying, knowing what they know now, they wouldn't have signed the FISA applications.
Oh, any Democrat ever say, come out and say we can't have FISA abuse like this and Pfizer fraud like this?
Not one.
Not a single Democrat.
Was there one honest Democrat that sat as the phony, you know, Zelinski phone call with, you know, led by a non-histleblower whistleblower?
One fact witness.
Every other witness was either an opinion witness or a hearsay witness.
Did any one of them say that Joe Biden on tape bragging he leveraged a billion dollars was wrong, so that he'd stop the investigation and fire a prosecutor investigating his son who admitted on GMA had no experience being paid millions?
None.
Did any of them ever condemn the monies that and the deal in China that Hunter Biden made?
None.
Did any of them ever question the Russian wired transfer, First Lady of Moscow that Ron Johnson and Chuck Rashley are talking about?
None.
So, you know, these calls for unity, they ring hollow.
As Ron Johnson said, okay, you spent four years smearing slandering the president.
We could spend four weeks investigating whether or not would the again, none of this had ever happened before.
Where you had 10 million, you know, tens of millions of ballots just sent out.
Or the signature issue that I just mentioned down in the state of Georgia that it's Republican governor seems to have no desire to deal with, which is mind-numbing in and of itself.
Let me explain, because I and let me just say up front, I have zero clue about what happened with, and I'm not a software guy, I'm not an election machine expert.
I'm not gonna claim to be one, but uh, and I explained this before, but I'll explain it again because you keep hearing about it, and I keep reading about it, and people keep talking about it on TV.
Uh, this Dominion software issue.
I'm just gonna tell you everything that I've been able to do in our deep dive and dig into it so you understand exactly what it is people are talking about.
And it was used by 28 states, including a lot of the swing states, like for example, uh, we know it was used in the state of Georgia.
Take that one, for example.
All 159 counties in Georgia.
So Dominion came under fire after, if you remember and recall, we had Laura Cox on this program, and we had this one county in over 40 counties of the 80 counties in Michigan use the Dominion machines software, et cetera, uh as a means of tabulating their votes.
Okay, the one county, they the 6,000 votes that were switched that were Trump votes to Biden.
All right.
Now, the the company saying, everybody's saying that was a that was human error in that particular case.
That was Dominion's statement that was I I guess what the Democrats up there are saying, okay, whatever.
But if you look at during Georgia's primary, and again, to me, I think they're looking at the wrong issue.
I think it should be checked the signature for the mail-in ballot requests the same way you were supposed to check them with those people that voted in person.
Because otherwise now you've got two different sets of standard because there are signatures on record.
And the signature of the applicant and the signature of the ballot is not the same system as the signature that is in the database that every other voter had to have their signature checked with signature verification in Georgia.
Okay, separate issue.
So if you look at the issues that have come up and the questions that are being raised here, here is what I find fascinating because it's it's so widespread.
When we did our deep dive into this, the criticism of Dominion, it actually shocked me.
Now, there were many reports, for example, the, and again, they're claiming human error.
I'm telling you exactly, we got we got the first statement from them for Hannity for the TV show.
But even the let me quote the New York Times on Dominion.
This is not conservatism here.
Quote, in some cases, the new machines require too much extra power for aging polling locations, blowing fuses, and never powering on and never even being able to power on.
In others, workers who are still being trained just days before the election struggled with the setup.
The Times went on and it said the electronic poll books also knew were plagued by freezing software and quote user error.
Now keep in mind during the presidential election, Dominion voting machines were used in all of Georgia's 159 counties, and again, a state with a razor-thin margin.
Now the question's got to be asked, okay.
And I think this would be easily figured out anyway.
I don't I don't think this is a really big deep dive here.
And the it would be you get a Republican expert, software voting machine expert, Democratic expert, software voting machine expert, Sean Hannity's not one, and let them both look at it forensically, and and I would think you're probably able to come to a fairly quick answer.
Uh that should not be, I think, something that would be that difficult to figure out.
But again, I have a hard time downloading app.
So now my question runs a little bit deeper than this, though.
Now, then you go and you look, we did we dug a little bit deeper.
And what did we find?
If you know, we found that in 2018, the Associated Press reported that Dominion, quote, long skimped on security in favor of convenience, making it more difficult to detect intrusions.
Huh.
AP is saying it.
New York Times is saying it.
Um, then I went through in great specificity and great detail how the Secretary of State of Texas, how the Attorney General in Texas, not once but twice in 2019, rejected the systems,
and you know, for failing to meet their basic security standards, and then we found out they had previously also rejected it in 2013, but they gave very specific reasons after they tested the machines twice, two separate occasions, rejecting it both times in 2019 of the difficulties and the failures within the system that they found.
Then in 2018, we were able to find a prominent tenured Princeton professor, a guy that actually specializes.
I never knew this was a specialty in election machinery and policy security.
Well, the professor's name is Andrew Rappel.
We invited him on the show, he turned us down.
Anyway, he issued what was an op-ed blasting Dominion over security concerns.
And what he said is, quote, so again, now you got AP, you got New York Times, you got a Princeton professor.
I doubt any of them are conservative.
But he said, quote, in 2018, that the Dominion image cast evolution looks like a pretty good voting machine, but It has a serious design flaw.
That's what he said.
Okay.
He says after you mark your ballot, after you review your ballot, the voting machine can print more votes on it.
Than the tenured professor of Princeton said in 2018.
Of course, the legitimate software installed by Dominion won't do that, but the machine is physically capable of it, and fraudulent software can exploit this ability.
And I guess the only way you'd be able to find the integrity of that is to have, you know, some computer genius forensic guy, of which I am not, look into that and check it out.
And then during a hearing on Capitol Hill, well, the same Princeton professor, Dr. Appel, explained how fraudulent software could be used to seriously alter our elections.
Each voting machine is a computer, running a computer program.
Whether that computer counts the votes accurately or makes mistakes or cheats by shifting votes from one candidate to another depends on what software is installed in the computer.
Installing new software is how you hack a voting machine to cheat.
I wrote a vote stealing computer program that shifts votes from one candidate to another.
Installing that vote stealing program in a voting machine takes seven minutes per machine with a screwdriver.
But really, the software I built was not rocket science.
Any computer programmer could write the same code.
Once it's installed, it could steal elections without detection for years to come.
That's a pretty damning powerful testimony from a guy that's an expert that specializes in election machinery.
And then by the way, you know, he says, of uh why shouldn't we be paying attention to this?
Now we had liberal Democrats, Ron Wyden and Elizabeth Warren and all these other they were the ones that were against these voting machine systems.
Um now, well, what are you saying, Hannity?
I'm just saying I don't know.
I'm saying, how could I possibly know?
I'm not a computer expert.
I'm not a voting machine expert.
Uh I I know I can barely download an app.
But when you got the New York Times, the Associated Press, a liberal tenured professor at Princeton, Democratic senators like Elizabeth Warren and Wyden, uh, very, very critical in congressional testimony.
The Attorney General Secretary of State of Texas in 2019 rejecting the system, then the question is, well, why did so many states then adopt this system?
That's the question I would have.
In other words, I would think this is not a Republican or Democratic issue.
I would think this isn't about conservatism or liberalism.
I would think that every American wants election results that have integrity, that people at the end of the process are going to have confidence in a system that we can easily and accurate and fair.
And that means that if these questions existed in 2019, 18 and 17 by again, people that don't even like me like the New York Times.
Um, and Texas with the very powerfully written and and we did this both on radio and TV report on the system.
Um, is this the best we can do?
Ask that question.
Because that's the question I'm asking, because I think I I believe the American people deserve the best system.
Do I know what the best system is?
Nope.
Do I think last-minute changes to laws are healthy?
Nope.
Do I think when you don't allow, as the law and statutory language calls for, partisan observers to observe, do I think that undermines confidence in the system?
Yeah.
I do.
And I would think that if the results were on the other foot, Democrats would feel the same way.
You know, look, you're talking about razor-thin margins here.
So for those that for four years had no problem undermining the current president of the United States, duly elected from their lies, their hoax, their conspiracy theory.
Do I know that anything untoward happened with the machines?
I do not.
Do I know if this was human error in this one Michigan district as Dominion says?
I do not.
how would I know?
I'm not that person that can figure that out.
But I think you can easily, if you want to, if you want people to have confidence, that seems like the the best antidote to me.
Let the experts one on each side go in and see what they find.
Um and give the American people the time so that it would bring the confidence that you want in the results of the election.
I don't know why some people would be afraid of doing that.
Um you just the whole thing from the last minute voting changes.
Remember, the first COVID relief bill was held up because Nancy Pelosi wanted in part changes.
The New York Times in 2012 warned about the increased risk of fraud and abuse incurred with mail in voting.
They ran a front page story on it in 2012, casting grave doubt on the reliability of widespread mail in voting.
Now you've got, I think this Thomas Friedman, isn't he joining one of the Democratic presidential guys saying, yeah, go move to Georgia?
Yeah, move to Georgia just so you can vote in this this election down there.
As if it's not bad enough that Georgia's gonna be inundated with Hollywood money left and right and sideways and everywhere in between.
All right, 800-941 Sean is a tofu.
I hope it gave you the understanding of what where the questions are coming from.
I'm doing it to the best of my ability.
When I found that owl out, I'll just quote every liberal outlet because they're the ones that have been warning about it.
I didn't even know about it.
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If you want to be a part of the program, there is a field organizer working to elect John Ossoff.
That's one of the races down in Georgia, Senate races on January 5th.
And uh anyway, telling Project Veritas uh and their action funds, uh, journalists in the campaign portraying Osav as a as a moderate to fool the voters.
Quote, on the surface, he tries to portray himself as uh left of moderate, so that all the Georgians, not us Georgians, but all the rednecks and all that stuff will be like, oh, he he's kind of cool.
According to this one self-professed progressive uh looking forward to a career in Georgia politics.
If John was running as a progressive within like the 5th district of Georgia, which is all African American, that's one thing.
That that's the one that John Lewis was running for.
He could win that pretty much in a landslide, but he wants to go for senator, and you've got to appeal to the whole state.
Oh, so we'll just pretend to be something we're not shocking.
Listen.
He has to win this election.
He's not gonna win the election as progressive.
Yeah, that's that's basically it.
Absolutely, we have to wait for like the boomers to die off.
Do you think like the Georgians are stupid enough?
Yeah.
You can spread that to like your other forgetting friends.
Keep this on low key on the surface.
He tries to portray himself as like left moderate.
So that all the Georgians, you know, all the not us Georgians, but all like the rednecks and all that stuff.
We'll be like, oh, he's kind of cool, but he's not like so far to the left that I'm not cool at that.
But deep down, he's like low key.
So key like I guess.
It's something that gets pumped up, especially because I know he's gonna win.
And he's gonna do he's gonna do what it takes to uh sell.
I know it's and it's gonna take you know the rest of the states as well.
And John is genuine to a certain point, but you can't show his like two stuff like 100% firewall.
So that's a tough part of campaigning and purple or like red states.
The people here are not open minded on in like a in like a overall sense, right?
Like you have like, there's like maybe 40% of the population you are, 45, but then the rest are a different breed or a different kind.
I was running as progressive within like the 5th district of Georgia, which is like all black.
That's the one that John Lewis, the Civil Rights Act, was.
Was running for absolutely right.
He could win that pretty much a landslide but he wants to go for senator.
Senator you said kill the whole state.
A whole state is a progressive.
It's like more modern right.
I'm a super progressive.
Okay.
And so what do you mean like how progressive I recently did one of my friends sent me like this poll and I read it I did it and it called me a libertarian socialist.
Hey I that sounds awful not that uh you know not that John is one it's just that my my policy or my beliefs are even I mean I I'm not gonna lie just like I I I I think he's a low key progressive and I'm very happy about it.
He's what I I like to think that he is in fact a low key progressive and I'm he is a low key progressive.
I I can say that's a fact.
I can say that as a fact.
Anyway joining us uh Congressman Doug Collins uh and uh he knows a lot about the state of Georgia uh did you hear about that Project Veritas tape?
I'm like oh of course he's really radical left but we're gonna hide it from the people of Georgia well excuse me the rednecks in Georgia uh to convince them that he's something that he's not yeah Sean it doesn't surprise me.
I mean, look, they come down here, the liberals come down here, they think that the rest of us out here are just, you know, deplorable rednecks, the ones who don't get it, that we can be, you know, manipulated.
And look, the problem is everybody knows who John Ossoff is.
He is not moderate.
He's not even portrayed to be moderate.
He is a liberal in the vein of, you know, the AOC and the rest of them.
And look, you know, if I was that down here, I'd try to hide it as well, but the people are seeing through it.
they're being you know being told so it's just look it's just another liberal line that believes that unless you think like I do then you're wrong you're ignorant you're backwards.
And in this time we just stopped and stood up to this you know the nonsense.
Alright let's do we got a couple of things going on simultaneously.
Now one of the things that I spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people on the ground in Georgia and everybody that I know is pretty ticked off at your governor including me.
And if you want to set me straight on this you can um and also the Secretary of state uh you know apparently this consent decree after a lawsuit in the early part of this year by the Georgia Democratic Party, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, uh that there was a consent decree that created two standards of signatures.
And for example, if you are a day of voter in the state of Georgia, correct me if I'm wrong you go in, you show you photo right photo ID, they check it with the database of signatures, make sure the signature matches you vote, it's all set.
But as part of this dis uh consent decree earlier this year they allowed those requesting mail in ballots if you made an application and as long as the application signature matches the ballot signature that would suffice and they wouldn't go to the database that every other voter had to use.
Is that true?
That is true.
Everything that you just said is true and everything that you just said is is we've been very frustrated and I made it very clear you know that that there's been you know numerous issues that have been going on but that one right there because that one hits at the very heart of you know verifying signatures.
The state law down here says that you have to verify the verification must be made.
What it doesn't say is that you know, as in most logical thinking people, they go back to the original voter registration signature that you made.
What this consent decree did was actually specify that only one signature had to match.
In other words, opening up the problematic that we see here is as you just described, the same person who act who fills out the application for a ballot would actually fill the uh sign the ballot, thus creating what we'll just call a a self-licking solution here to the problem.
So this is why it it's very difficult because once also in Georgia, there's another issue you need to know, Daniel Sean from from even from your day, the the time is that the ballot itself has no identifying voter ID number on it that would identify it back to the envelopes in which it came in.
So once they are separated from the envelope, in essence you have l limited to no remedy because once it is separated, the ballot looks like the other ballots and you can't bring them back.
So even if you were to find out that the signature match was the problem in some way, which is another long in-depth process to get through, they can't get the ballot back.
So this this has been a messed up process.
It's got to be fixed.
Voter ID has to be added to some kind of identifying mark to the ballot itself.
We've got to fix a true certified signature match if you're going to do an absentee ballot, um, so that we can actually uh perfect this.
This is a problem that we've been having down here, but that consent decree has made that you know virtually impossible to go back and now recreate.
Well, y but your governor Kemp and Secretary of State, uh, they refused uh for the legislature to get back in session to make these obvious fixes which would make it fair for the entire state of Georgia in the lead up to these uh the Senate runoffs January fifth.
Uh they they refuse to call the special session.
I understand that it's the governor, only he could do it and he's refusing to do it.
Why?
Because he his the excuse the the reason he's given is that you if he was to they were go through it and they were to make these changes, they're the you know, they immediately said that the j that they would not hand up least stand up legally in court because you're changing uh the process in which you're doing it in the middle of a already going on election.
I I mean that's the excuse they're giving.
The problem is when you signed this consent decree at the start in the middle of this year, and by the way, you had Secretary Raffenberger send out uh bow um uh requests for absentee ballots to every registered voter in the state of Georgia.
Um that included several folks who got multiple requests for absentee ballots because of different addresses that they may have.
This just exasperated a bad problem.
They can't fix it in the sense that they want to, but he that's the reason that it was given is that uh they can't fix it in the middle and that they're gonna have to wait till January to do it.
So there's no way that you see this governor moving towards fixing obvious problems and an inconsistent standard, and this have been an argument like Lynn Wood has been making down there, and and it seems like it's falling on deaf ears in the governor's office.
Have you talked to the governor?
No, he didn't call me.
Remember, there's a di there's a little bit of an issue there.
But uh Ian called me, but uh look, Lynn has hit the right note on this this lawsuit.
Lynn has attacked the the lawsuit, he's got the lawsuit filed, and and this will be where, you know, hopefully, you know, i there'll be some issues that he can point out and bring out.
But no, I'll just say at this point there is not uh Ben and and again I gave you the legal uh the reason that the governor has given the legal reason, and you know, it it it is the reason that they're using it to not call in a special session, but the only other alternative for a special session is three-fifths of the legislature, and there's not three-fifths of the legislature that would would sign to come into special session.
That's so w what are the options at this point, if any?
To get it fixed before January is none.
Uh the as far as that goes, as far as a legally fixed to put it back in the law.
Uh, if Lynn Woods uh lawsuit can move forward, then there may be that's uh that is a possibility to uh look at there.
But then again, again, as with all legal proceedings, they take time, you gotta have discovery, you gotta have some other things that will go along with this.
So right now, the problem is is what they concocted with the Democrats back in the spring is now hamstringing uh this election to make sure that uh the signature verifications were there.
And again, Sean, this this should affect I mean the Democrats are thrilled about this, but at the end of the day, it's about every legal vote and making sure that that the any vote that shouldn't have been counted shouldn't have been counted, and now it's made it very difficult because of some decisions made uh earlier this year, uh especially in the Secretary of State's office.
But Wait a minute.
So now you've got Stacey Abrams bragging out there that they've got six hundred thousand requests for mail and ballots already.
Here we go again.
And I'm talking to guys like Matt Towery, he's been polling the state for all these years.
He says, uh, yeah, these two seats are not a slam dunk.
Uh as a matter of fact, they could be lost easily.
His words, not mine.
And it's seemingly the governor doesn't even care.
Doesn't even see well, maybe what do you think about running against him in a in a primary?
And is it nothing the people of Georgia can do in all of this?
Well, I think right now they just need to make their frustrations known.
I think the issue is that you know, making frustrations known doesn't get the problem solved.
No, I I don't disagree with you, Sean, but again, the this was set in motion earlier this year, and and it it sort of doubled down on itself.
The other thing is though is too, and I'm gonna take it to the other vote.
Republicans also have to fight this as well.
They've got to get out and vote.
They've got to, you know, to get it to people who uh get our our numbers out there because January 5th is they can't be frustrated by what they're seeing.
We can't.
Well, the problem is January 25th.
That's now often people go on vacation, Christmas week, New Year's week, okay?
So that means that they're gonna come back on that Tuesday, that's election day.
And I'm not exactly sure how motivated people are gonna be just at coming back from vacation or how aware they're going to be over their long vacation about the need to get out and vote.
And based on, you know, all the frankly, you know, fundamental unfairness in a lot of the system that we all see that you would think that you know that the your governor would want to lift a finger to help the process.
Yeah.
Well, here's the two things to that.
Number one is yes, it's right after January if it's on January 5th.
But also the the for anybody who's gonna be out, I'm I'm gonna say, just like the Democrats are doing, if you're not gonna be around or you don't think you can get there by January 5th, then put in an absentee ballot.
Get you one, do it right, do it properly, do it the way you need to, and make this vote.
Because again, frustration is trying to get it fixed.
You know, those of us are getting, you know, Lynn Wood's lawsuit, others that are working through this, we're we're working to do what can be done, but there's under limited conditions when this was done under the color of law to a consent decree, and this was sent out earlier.
But people look, if they take the frustration out, say I'm not gonna vote, I'm not gonna do this, then you would give the opportunity for Chuck Schumer to control the Senate.
That has got to be the overriding motivation for us to get allowed and elect Senator Furdue and Senator Leffer in this race, and then go at it hard as we continue right now to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
All right, Congressman Doug Collins, state of Georgia.
Thank you, sir.
Good luck.
Keep us updated.
And by the way, uh this governor has been the worst.
He's been the worst governor I've ever seen in the state of Georgia.
I can't believe the utter stupidity on so many levels.
I really can't.
Everybody should be frustrated down there.
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Then our friend Jim Gray is going to check in with us.
What a great book uh he has.
All right, down in Georgia, Joe is an elder.
A little worried about this runoff, a little worried about your uh dopey governor down there.
Well, Sean, uh it's sad, like Doug told you that that they they committed that in the consent degree.
That that was of course the wrong thing to do.
But I tell you what, I believe you're a talk show.
All I'm doing the next eight weeks and spending all my time on trying to re-elect uh uh David Purdue and Kelly Leffer.
We must elect them.
And Sean, your great talk show, twenty million people, a lot of them in Georgia.
That can be a huge factor in re-electing both uh David and Kelly.
So I want to urge everybody to get out and vote for them.
And I'm calling everybody I've known since I'm five years old.
I think we can do it with your help.
And uh getting our people fired up, and they are fired up because we realize that if we lose control of the Senate, that is terrible because that means Schumer will put in, you know, two more, two more states and it'd just be a disaster.
I hope the people of Georgia understand how how important their role is in the future of the country here.
Um and there might be a tendency that you know, uh, I just want to go on vacation.
All right, go on vacation, but if you're gonna vote absentee, vote absentee.
You're gonna vote mail in, vote mail in.
If you're gonna vote, vote.
If you're planning on voting on January 5th, vote January 5th.
Don't if you don't take this seriously, Georgia, it will be an unmitigated disaster of which I don't see how we recover.
That's how profound it is.
Thank you, Sean.
You're the best.
All right, we appreciate it.
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You want to be a part of the program.
Man, I could not put down my friend Jim Gray's book.
I'll tell you, we'll explain that coming up next.
Uh also, we got a lot more coming up.
David Schoen, Greg Jarrett, we'll get to calls today.
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All right, 25 till the top of the hour, toll free 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, um taking a break to do something just a little wee bit different.
Um Jim Gray's been a great friend of mine for a long time.
Uh one of the great sports broadcasters of all time.
And he's been there for some of the most amazing moments in sports that one could ever hope, dream uh of of being at.
Everything from, you know, Tom Brady and Mohammed Ali, early interviews when Tiger Woods was was so young.
I mean, it's just pretty incredible.
Mike Tyson, Kobe Bryant, you name it, Muhammad Ali, Michael Phelps, Hank Aaron, Barry Bonds, I mean, Michael Jordan, any big name in sports, he knew, knows all of them.
Anyway, I want to play for you just a little bit.
I've just finished his book.
I I couldn't put it down the minute I spent my great distraction when I get like 15 minutes to just try and unwind.
And here's some of the highlights.
Think you can beat Holmes.
You sound like the local Howard Conservative.
Did you play better than you have ever played?
As long as I can I want to continue to play, I think I can be better as a basketball player.
That's right.
Can I be your caddy?
I want to win all the big tournaments, the major ones, and beat all the pros.
Are you a bit embarrassed to be in this situation?
Playing a team game you don't feel like you're deserving of the attention that you get.
I broke my back.
What do you mean by that?
You broke it.
What part uh uh a vertebrae or or what horses?
Spinal.
What do you want to fight?
Me.
I plead the fan.
All right, that's all moments from the incredible career.
He's been a dear friend of mine now for many, many years.
I could not look in the in these crazy times we live in, I'd get my five, ten, fifteen minutes to relax, and this is what helped me relax.
And he's written a great book, what an amazing life background experience.
I mean, every big huge star athlete you could ever imagine uh talking to goats.
Uh my friend Jim Gray is with us.
How are you, sir?
I'm great, Sean.
Thank you so much for that introduction, and I really appreciate it.
Thank you for your friendship.
It's uh We've been friends a long time, and by the way, rarely talk politics, which is better because when I get, you know, and that's the thing about sports that we all love.
I mean, I'm looking at this who's who.
And in the video, for example, you have how old was Tiger Woods when you first interviewed him?
Nine years old.
Nine years old.
He was just turning ten.
He was in single digits.
And and did you know then that this this greatness was unfolding and was absolutely almost guaranteed?
Well, you never know for sure, but he had already had three Holton ones, and the day that I went out there, uh the day that I went out there, Sean, he was with his father, Earl, and he was having so much fun, and he dumped some of these balls in the sand trap, and out of the sand trap, he knocked four of them in.
He knocked four of them in out of the twenty or twenty-five that were there, and I'm thinking, my God, you know, if you how many pros could stand here and do that?
They couldn't.
So they couldn't.
Um and it's sad that he's had obviously the personal sh issues, but more importantly, all the the physical in uh injuries.
I mean, when he came back at Augusta, how great was that?
It was incredible.
And and the and the best thing about it is after, you know, having such a glorious career and then going into that valley because uh of the problem with Elon and the infidelities and then the DUI and all of the surgeries on his back and his knees and and just you know not having won a major for that decade plus, and then to come back and do it, do it last year after all that.
It's the greatest comeback in sports, and all I could think of is is how much it took to get back to that point, and having known him since he was, you know, just a youngster when he said that famous line to me that became uh a commercial.
When I grow up, I want to win all the majors and beat all the pros.
And you could I could just see that on the eighteenth green when he hugged his mom in the same spot where he had hung uh hugged his dad in in nineteen ninety-seven.
So there he was twenty-two years later, with that scene that none of us thought we'd ever see again.
And and the best thing about it, Sean, he finally let the public in.
He let the his competitors in.
He was able to let them share his joy as opposed to being standoffish and pushing them away.
Here was a guy who became a human and let the competitors hug him and high-fived the fans, and was smiling and had that genuine joy to be able to show this and share this with his children.
And it was a beautiful moment.
It was a great love about sports is sports mirrors life.
I mean, Lee's look, you learn to win, you learn to lose.
You you learn the harder you work, the better you do.
Um, you know, all sorts of great lessons.
I love what Muhammad Ali, by the way.
I actually have a a glove uh uh Everlast glove signed by him to me after I'd once interviewed his daughter, and I still have it in my office.
Uh, but when he said he wants to take you on, that was a pretty cool moment.
Yep.
He uh Yeah, Ali.
Well, yeah, that was the last interview, Sean that you just heard that he ever did on TV.
He was the first interview I ever did.
I was eighteen years old.
I was a sports intern and I was a film uh they were converting from film to video tape, so they let me uh uh stay at the station as a video tape editor.
All the film guys took the buyout.
So what happened is I was in editing what I was doing early in the morning, and the assignment editor came running in and she said, Muhammad Ali's two and a half hours early at Stapleton International Airport, go get him.
Well, nobody had a cell phone, so they couldn't find the anchors.
Nobody had a beeper, so they couldn't find the sports reporters.
So now I'm eighteen years old, never done an interview in my life, and they send me out to interview Ali.
I get there after I asked the first question, he said, You're doing the interview.
Well, the whole entourage started laughing, but that calms me down because it made me laugh.
And so here I was eighteen years old, and then the by the third question, Sean, he said to me, You sound like the local Howard Cosell.
You just heard that.
I remember.
Yeah.
And you know what?
That gave me so much confidence.
Anyway, I took the tape back.
He gave me 45 minutes, and the news director walked in, looked at it, and he watched it twice, and he finally said, You and this video tape are going on the air.
It's barely adequate.
Well, I've been barely adequate ever since.
And uh that was that was the start of it.
So Mohammed Ali, Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James when he makes this announcement, Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, Michael Phelps, Tiger Woods.
I don't even know where to begin to start asking you questions because we don't have enough time.
And the book, by the way, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere, talking of goats.
Well, why'd you call it talking to goats?
Well the greatest.
I'll leave it the goat.
Okay.
He he he named him, he named himself.
He used to say at the end of his fights on the greatest of all time, and then he made it the greatest of all times.
And so, you know, there's such a debate now in in all of our sports, you know, uh, who's the goat?
Is it Montana?
Is it Brady?
Is it LeBron?
Is it Michael Jordan?
Where does Kobe fit in?
Is it Tiger or is it Nicholas?
And is it you know, clearly it's Phelps.
He's the most decorated Olympian ever and and swimmer, uh, period.
So we just thought it was a clever, uh catchy catchy name, uh, because I've spoken to all of these guys repeatedly over the years, and so I don't know if you can really decide.
It's like what the that Rocky movie when, you know, you're comparing Rocky and his prime versus I forget who what the character's name was in his prime, and then they have a fight.
What was that?
Apollo Creed?
No, not Apollo Creed, the the later one where he's older and he comes back and he gets his license, he has that scene with his son, you know, you know, life ain't about how hard you get hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, keep moving forward.
Um quick break.
Welcome back, my friend Jim Gray, sports caster, his brand new book, Talking to Goats, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
Is there anybody he didn't talk to?
More on the other side.
Then we get back to business, and we'll be talking to Dan Bishop in North Carolina.
Video evidence will tell you about, and then we will hur head to the great state of Michigan to get an update on what's the situation on the ground there.
That and much more.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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You're our kind of people.
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And as we continue, Jim Gray talking to goats, new book, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
So let me ask you, and by the way, you had a very special relationship with Kobe, and I remember I put I I pretty sure I texted you at the time because I knew you were close to him.
Um and you loved him, you knew him forty-one years.
Uh tell us any anecdote you want about any of these guys.
Tom Brady, you were close to.
Tom Brady is just uh a spectacular guy.
I've been fortunate enough on for the past decade, Sean, to have him on the radio every Monday night uh on the pregame on Westwood Wanted at halftime, and he's a special guy.
I mean, he is uh, you know, 31 cities when he was in New England, 31 cities hated him because he won so much.
But if you if you hate this guy, there's something wrong.
Well, they love him in Tampa now, so it's down to thirty cities.
But if you can't get along with this guy or you don't see how wonderful he is, you know, you better look at yourself.
Because this guy, this guy is unbelievably uh thousands of acts of kindness.
He's not doing it for any recognition or acknowledgement.
Uh he he he trusts people.
People always ask, how do you how do you you gain somebody's trust?
Well, with Tom, it's easy because Tom trusts himself.
Therefore, it's easy for him to trust other people.
And if you overstep that, you just you just do yourself in.
In other words, you hang yourself.
He won't end it.
You'll end it yourself by doing, you know, something that that you shouldn't do.
So he he's he's just um he he's been a joy to deal with, a true uh just a uh a fantastic guy, and you know, look at what all of his teammates say about him.
I mean, you can't find a guy who hasn't liked playing with or being around Tom Brady.
And it's not just because he wins, it's because of uh the human being he is.
You know, Nelson Mandela said this to me when I had the chance to spend time with him and ask him some questions.
Is there is there anybody that's famous you don't know?
I mean, come on, I'm um I'm not kidding, but go ahead.
He said something that that really applies to Tom, and Maya Angelou, I believe, wrote it for him, but he used it and he said it to me, and it's the most simplistically genius thing I've ever heard.
People will forget what you say, and people will forget what you do, but no one will ever forget the way you make them feel.
Every time you're with Tom Brady, me, I feel better about myself and I feel better about him.
How many people can you say that about?
Tell me about Mike Tyson, because uh I've talked to Mike Tyson, and I he's just a uh it's it's such a tragedy there, and I don't know.
Um on so many different levels.
Your thoughts.
He's the most honest athlete of my lifetime.
Mike Tyson is a is uh is uh a man of deep and high intellect, okay?
On one shoulder, he has a tattoo of Arthur Ash and Days of Grace, and on the other shoulder, Chairman Mao.
He can recite the Red Book and the tenets of it.
Okay.
He could tell you about Shakespeare and Napoleon, and he is uh uh knows all sorts of history.
His life has been a roller coaster up and down.
He has done despicable acts, things that were heinous, Sean.
Okay, he bit off another man's earlobe.
But let me tell you something about Mike.
Commander Holyfield.
Yeah, I remember I've interviewed him, Hander.
Mike Tyson takes his own medicine.
He came out and did that interview.
He didn't hide behind some PR statement or some spin four days later.
He came out and explained and gave his reasoning as to what had happened.
I'm gonna tell you one of the insights in the book and talking to goats.
Mike wrote me a letter when he was in the penitentiary, a handwritten letter, four five pages long, Sean.
And on the second page, it came to my house inexplicably.
We weren't social.
It had been opened by penitentiary officials.
On the second page it said, Mr. Gray, that's what he called me, they will let me go tomorrow if I will admit to this rape.
However, I did not rape this woman, and I will never admit to something I didn't do.
Next paragraph.
However, there are four or five other things that I've done throughout the course of my life that are worse than what I'm accused of.
Therefore I feel I'm at the right place at this time.
I did the first interview with him when he came out of jail, and I asked him, could I repeat that letter on the air or was it private?
He said, Ask me anything you want.
So I asked him that question.
What was worse?
He looked at his lawyer, looked back at me, he said, It's probably best not to answer that question on national television because I don't know the statue of limitations.
But let me tell you what I wrote you is true.
And then in the special I asked him about that again.
What was worse, Mike?
And he said, Karma, buddy, karma.
All the things that I did, jail was good for me.
Jail was the best.
It's all in the book, Talking to Goats.
It's on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, and bookstores everywhere.
What an incredible life you've led.
And uh I'm honored to be able to call you a friend on top of all of this.
And um you know, I I it's you know, I know this has been a rough political season pandemic.
It's been a tough year.
You know, anarchy everywhere.
It it really has helped me in the last you know, since you gave me an early copy and I've been reading it.
You know, it's the only thing that really has been helping me unwind late at night, and I gotta thank you for that.
And I think everybody really will enjoy it.
What an incredible life you've led.
What a great person you are.
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I know we've gone into great specificity, great detail, more than uh a lot of people as it relates to this Dominion software issue, and I won't reiterate every point that I've made again here.
Um what I didn't understand as I saw this, it first came out with the with Laura Cox and the and they're all saying human error, human or human error.
Okay.
Well, okay, I'll take it on on face value.
But 28, 30 states now adopting Dominion.
But there's been so much criticism, twice in 2019, once in 2013, the state of Texas rejected it.
And I went through all the specific reasons why, because they didn't feel it was accurate.
Uh the New York Times was critical of it.
The AP was critical of it.
They had hearings about about these systems, and all these liberal Democrats were were critical of it.
And then the question is well, if we're America, why don't we look and use the best system?
Well, you know, one that we can always have full complete, 100% faith and trust in.
Anyway, actually, PBS, we found a report that they did on the Dominion voting issues in Georgia.
Uh, and uh here's what it here's how that report went out.
Election security experts working for the plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the state have uncovered several troubling issues.
Alex Halderman, look closely at the QR codes where the votes are encoded for the scanner.
By analyzing the structure of the QR codes, I've been able to learn that um there's nothing that stops an attacker from just duplicating one.
And the duplicate would count the same as the original barcode.
And in late September, another concern came to light.
During testing, election workers found half the names of the 21 candidates for Senate intermittently disappeared.
We need paper records that are marked by the voter.
With the voters on hand, where we know that was recorded the way that the voter wanted it recorded.
So she and the other plaintiffs took aim at the new voting machines.
The lawsuit came into sharp focus after their chaotic debut in the June primary.
The poll pads took as long as 30 hours to download the voter database, displayed the wrong races, and would randomly shut down.
And the power hungry ballot marking devices blew circuit breakers in numerous locations.
Poll workers, many of whom had no hands-on training because of the pandemic, were often befuddled by the new technology.
We've learned a lot of lessons.
We're putting technicians in every single polling place.
We have to make sure that not only do the poll workers know how to use the equipment, but then these technicians are then going to be relied upon to fix any issues.
We want to just fly under the radar and do our jobs and you know, stay away from the news.
All right.
Now that report is from July of 2019.
So they're they were having the same problems that Texas was having, but yet they kept the machines.
That's actually a report from MPR on Georgia.
And, you know, so you you look at this and I'm like, okay, why would any if all these when you finally have the New York Times and the state of Texas in agreement?
Uh, you'd think it would mean something.
The New York Times said in some cases the new machines required too much extra power for aging polling locations, blowing fuses, never powering on.
In others, workers were still being trained as days before the election.
They struggled with the setup.
And they go on the electronic poll books, also new were plagued by freezing software and user error.
And, you know, keep in mind the presidential election, Dominion voting machines were used in all of Georgia's 159 counties, but the these were the problems they were describing from 2019.
Um, so you know, and then you go back to the state of Texas.
Then you go back to, you know, uh, you know, other liberal media outlets, and they were saying it, and when you have a razor thin margin, how do you get to the point where people believe in the integrity and have confidence in any voting results?
Anyway, here to weigh in on this and more.
David Schones, Civil Liberties attorney, board of the uh Alabama Civil Uh Liberties Union, actually, and he has experience in election law, just finished a major brief in an election case and has done election contests.
Uh Greg Jarrett is uh with us, of course, best selling author, Fox News legal analyst.
David, your experience and your thoughts on this, and with all the problems left.
And by the way, then you had congressional testimony, Democrats were more angry than Republicans at the time about it.
Well, you know, you say that.
I mean, one of the things that I've seen is a quote, uh, a letter written by Ron Wyden, a Democratic senator from Oregon, in which he opined that the voting machine lobby led by the biggest companies believes that they are above the law.
They are not held accountable by anyone.
That's Democrat Democratic Senator Ron Wyden writing.
It's just unbelievable that we're in this position having to have this discussion.
Um after all that's happened in the past, and now all of a sudden, you know, we're learning about Texas's position.
We're learning about lawsuits against uh a subsidiary of Dominion overseas in the Philippines, 2010, 2013, semantic.
Um I I don't it's it's shocking.
We're talking about an election of the presidency of the United States.
I think for me, you know, one of the most shocking things is unfortunately that we're not hearing from Mr. Biden that he is as concerned as President Trump is.
It's not a matter of winning or losing, it's a matter of the integrity of the system.
Everyone has a stake in that.
Well, and in 2018, the Associated Press said that Dominion, quote, long skimped on security in favor of convenience, making it more difficult to detect intrusions.
Um it was rejected three times by the state of Texas, Greg Jarrett.
Yeah, Dominion provides the machine, Smartmatic, their subcontractor, a Venezuelan company, provides the software, and as you pointed out, Sean, even the New York Times recently said, quote, in Venezuela's election, Smartmatic software was manipulated to report a skewed tally.
Why in the world are we using this software, this hardware in thirty states?
Uh that by a company that has a record of rigging an election in that country.
Was the software corrupted in this U.S. election?
Americans deserves answers.
Joe Biden should be.
Well, let me ask you this.
Why don't they just maybe I'm just thinking too simple-minded here?
Why don't they just have computer experts, forensic computer experts, go in one Republican, one Democrat, and examine the machines?
Absolutely they should.
I mean, I don't well am I wrong in thinking that shouldn't be that heavy a lift if they know what they're doing.
Absolutely.
And that should be uh ordered in all of these venues, two thousand jurisdictions in thirty states, uh, in which SmartMatic and Dominion uh machines and software was used.
I mean, it's insane.
It's a national security threat to be using this foreign uh voting machines and software.
We have the best and the brightest in Silicon Valley.
We can't create our own reliable, trustworthy uh voting systems.
Uh you know, we can send a man to the moon 50 years ago, and here we are in 2021.
That was my question, because I have no earthly idea, you know, whether there was a breakdown in these systems or software.
I can barely download an app, but you know, now when you go back in retrospect and you look at all the criticism, AP, New York Times, Congressional Hearings, um, rejected three times in the state of Texas.
There's this Princeton professor, Greg 2018, tenured professor, specializes in election machinery, believe it or not, and policy and securities name is Andrew Appell, did it issued a blistering op-ed on this particular company And said the Dominion image cast evolution looks like a pretty good voting machine, but it has a serious design flaw.
After you mark your ballot, after you review your ballot, the voting machine can print more votes on it.
And then he goes on.
Of course, the legitimate software uh installed by Dominion won't do that, but the machine is physically capable of it, and fraudulent software can exploit this ability.
And in 2017, he he was in hearings in Capitol Hill, and he explained how fraudulent software could be used to seriously alter an election.
I'm I saying this happened.
No, I'm just saying, why would you pick that machine based on all of this criticism from both sides?
Well, you you don't.
And Trump's legal team to your point, Sean, insists they have serious and substantial evidence to prove that thousands of phantom votes were added to Biden's tally in key states, giving him a narrow victory instead of the loss that he actually earned.
This back door, apparently, allows anyone to go in there, especially election officials who want to rig an election, and they can erase vote tallies from Trump, tens of thousands of them.
They can upload non-existent votes for Joe Biden.
Listen, you know, part of what's offensive about this is the media making a mockery of the challenge.
First of all, there may be fraud, there may not be fraud, but it doesn't have to rise to the level of fraud.
What we also know is that since January at least, there have been some vulnerability to hacks identified in these systems because patches weren't updated by Microsoft in many of these systems.
Everyone should be concerned about the integrity of our voting system.
It's probably our most important right under the Constitution, a right from which so many others flow.
There's no business making a mockery of it.
It's not the president's job to have to challenge this, quite frankly.
We should there should be an open investigation and transparency.
That's what the president wants.
I'm sure Joe Biden ought to want that as well.
Well, we spent four years, Greg, on the Russia hoax and lie.
We can spend four weeks making sure that the election result has integrity and people have confidence in it.
Um, you know, even the New York Times, I'll go back and quote them again.
Uh they cast grave doubt, for example, on the reliability of widespread mail and voting.
And they indicated it was, quote, more vulnerable to fraud than conventional voting.
Um now we see a push towards uh all of this, and by the way, Stacey Abrams was bragging already in the state of Georgia, six hundred thousand mail-in requests for ballots for the Senate runoff.
And the governor down there is doing nothing.
There there certainly are lapses in this consent decree agreement, I believe, in terms of signature verification.
You have two different standards.
I I'm not exactly sure how you know you have equal justice under the law that way.
No, I gotta don't.
I gotta tell uh let me jump in just one second.
I gotta tell you, and Georgia, the problem to me at least goes well beyond that.
You know that there are advertisements for people to come to Georgia, pretend to be making they don't say pretend, but this is what they mean.
Pretend to be and considering making Georgia your home, register to vote by December 5th.
This way you can vote in the uh Senate runoff elections.
You know what?
If you change your mind afterwards, oh well, that's called fraud.
Well, I think you've got one of the presidential candidates, I don't remember which one, but the one of the lesser candidates said that he actually is thinking of moving there.
I think Tom did Tom Friedman Ethan, uh was it somebody over there, I think said the same thing.
I don't know who.
Yeah.
Well, uh, you know, failed presidential candidate Yang uh, you know, said he and his wife were moving to Georgia so they can vote in a so they can vote uh in the upcoming election.
That is fraud.
I agree with David a hundred percent.
Um, because they're not uh truly and sincerely uh intending to be residents.
They they're doing it uh to help a candidate, and and that's fraud.
Uh you know, the this whole thing is insane.
But Trump's legal team say they have evidence.
They're entitled to present that evidence and argue that proof in a court of law.
That's our system works.
It is always worked that way.
Uh and frankly, Joe Biden should welcome the legal challenges.
If he wants to be viewed as a legitimate president, assuming he wins, he has to convince half of America that he won fair and square and that he didn't steal an election.
Uh, you know, uh Trump was harassed for four years by the media and Democrats that he stole an election.
There was no proof of it.
We now know it was a the big lie.
So, you know, Biden is going to be hobbled by the same thing.
If he doesn't come out and say, yes, we need to look at everyone.
Okay, don't hold your breath.
Uh he's he's picking out drapes.
He's busy.
He's got drape colors to pick.
All right, as we continue, uh, we'll get to your calls next half hour, 800 941 Sean, if you want to join us, uh, David Schoen, Greg Jarrett.
All right, next steps, because uh Greg Jarrett, time's running out.
Well, there's a respected legal process.
Candidates test the legitimacy of an election outcome.
If there's fraud, it should be exposed.
If the fraud is significant enough or systemic, it might change the outcome of which candidate actually won the presidency based on valid votes that were cast.
So the clock is running as you point out.
Uh, they've got less than a month now to present their arguments in a court of law.
Your thoughts, David Schoen, and what should be done.
Well, I'll ask you this question if we have time on the other end.
Yeah, well, I think that they they have to continue uh again.
It's an examination that's going on.
It's in everybody's interest.
In Georgia, by the way, it's the law that provides for a recount when they're within 0.5%.
There's a reason for that law.
Everyone understands that mistakes are made.
Media needs to stop making a mockery of it and be concerned about the integrity of the system, just like they were in past years when their their candidate uh didn't seem to be favored.
Yeah.
Uh and they're not going to do anything before the Georgia runoff, are they?
Uh I don't know.
You know, they have a deadline now to report the results in Georgia.
Um, so that's coming up.
They're furiously doing this hand count, but you know, the challenges go on.
Um, and uh, you know, it's a it's an important process.
All right.
And uh, Greg Jarrett, thank you as well.
David, thank you.
800-941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
We'll put we'll tie all of this together tonight on Hannity, 98 on the Fox News channel, and violence that took place all around the country that nobody in the mob and the media even seemed to notice this weekend.
Well, shocking.
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All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800 941 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
I mentioned earlier in the program today.
Uh, if you're just getting in your car, joining us late, welcome aboard.
Glad you could be with us.
But um, you notice the mob, the media well, let's go back to just before election day.
What were we watching?
We're what Rodeo Drive was being boarded up, you know, for fear of what election results might bring afterwards.
Same in New York City and other cities as well.
And anyway, so you get the I haven't seen any violence.
I watched on Saturday, massive crowds marching on Washington, uh the MAGA march that took place there.
And then you got the uh violent, I guess Antifa supporters or whatever, all these varying groups there.
And you see all these different, you know, people out there going after families that are sitting in restaurants after the march.
Now we watched this now for four years.
Nobody in the mob, the media seemed to care.
Be it uh, you know, then Homeland Security Secretary being attacked, or Sarah Sanders, you know, and her family run out of restaurants, or what happened to Ted Cruz, what happened to so many Republicans.
Nah, media just not a problem.
Anyway, so you got all these people, 20 people ended up being arrested amid the violent clashes, but you wouldn't know it if you watched the mob in the media.
You got all these videos showing anti-Trump demonstrators shouting at families, sucker punching people in the street, harassing an old woman carrying a Trump flag, two young Trump supporters reportedly douse with liquid substances, and others hit with eggs.
Uh in one video that Drew Hernandez, I guess, whoever that is, had posted, I uh which I saw, man with a bloody head stumbling in another video.
And well, here are some of the sounds of it.
We'll show you on TV tonight.
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*Screaming* *Screaming* *Screaming* Burn it?
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Fire!
What do you want a food?
Run it!
What a f**k!
I don't care!
You f**k!
I'm telling you.
I f**k that's wrong man!
I don't know what you f**k!
Why are you guys sitting here?
Why are you guys saying this happened?
You didn't see the person at a night?
I mean, he's just had a knife.
It was a knife here at the scene.
I guess we knew what what side was gonna react violently.
Um anyway, so you see what happened.
Supporters hit with fireworks at a restaurant after the march, and and there was a lot of it, by the way.
But the media mob, they just ignored it.
All right, let's get to our phones as we promised.
Uh John is in Florida.
John, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Happy Monday.
Thanks for being with us.
Thank you very much.
Well, I was going to um help out my good friend Andrew Wang says he's moving to Georgia.
Um we've owned property in Georgia for five years, so does that mean as a Florida resident, I can just go up there and vote?
Because I already do own property in Georgia.
Um, I would not advise anybody against breaking the law or doing something that we all know is is is raw in corruption and fraud.
In good conscience, I would never advise anybody to do that.
Just like I tell people pay your taxes.
Uh and you know, if we don't like laws, we gotta elect people that'll change them the way we want them.
Um but yeah, I mean the calls for oh, just move down to Georgia and just vote.
I'm like, really?
Nobody seems to have a problem with any of this.
Uh but it wouldn't surprise me.
I I mean it just is it just reeks.
I I you know it's sort of like they know not what they say or do here because for them it's about power, it's about the agenda.
When you think of what is at stake, John, in this uh the runoff on January 5th, and and problems that we know already exist in Georgia that they're not dealing with.
And we need to have trust, faith, integrity, confidence in all election results, and it's not hard to do.
You don't want to know why I know that, John, because your state of Florida, which has had its own fair share of troubles over the years, has cleaned up its mess and gotten its act together thanks to Governor DeSantis down there.
And everybody has faith and confidence in the results.
That's all people are looking for here.
You know, I've been doing this 33 years.
I've had my fair share of wins, and I've had election years that are disappointing.
I've had both.
And, you know, um people are what are you gonna do now?
I'm gonna, I'm like, fight for liberty and freedom till my last breath.
There's my answer.
Unbelievable.
Um, you know, how are they gonna hide Biden?
It's gonna be hiding Biden.
I mean, how how do you if this guy gets to be president?
What do they do with the mess that they've just created here?
I just don't believe he's strong enough.
I don't think he has the strength, the stamina, the mental alertness and acuity to be president.
I'll be proven right or wrong.
Democrats said that about Reagan, they said it about McCain.
Nobody else mentioned anything about Biden.
It was very few of us that even broached the ever so sensitive um tar uh topic that everybody personally that I knew of was talking about.
Uh anyway, thanks for the call.
Ohio, we got Kathy next.
Hi, Kathy.
How are you?
Good.
Thank you for talking to me.
Um my husband is a veteran and worked in the military, and we love our country.
We love our president.
We we love and appreciate you very much.
The problem is is what I talk to so many people and you're saying vote.
You know, make sure you vote.
People feel like they don't have a voice anymore.
I don't see many people in the GOP fighting.
There's a handful that because they got rehired, so they're like, well, they're not fighting for us.
You you ask for people to go and vote in Georgia, and how do we know that it's not going to be cheated again?
I have talked to so many people.
I mean, I am very patriotic.
We're we're there to vote, and we would have we would have been there sick or not sick, we would have been there to vote.
But you get to a place where you talk to people after the election and they're like, why vote?
Why vote?
They're just a good thing.
Listen, you can't you can't surrender.
I mean, what is the option here?
You know, think of all you to you you you just mentioned your husband is in the service, right?
Imagine we wouldn't have this country but for the the risk that soldiers have taken all throughout our history and put their lives on the line for us, right?
Absolutely.
And I'm not saying about surrender, but I'm just saying you hear people and they feel like they're doing the right thing and it's not making a difference because we're being cheated.
And I don't feel like the GOP, there's a handful, Jim's James Jordan, um, um Ted Cruz.
I mean, there's a quite a handful that's really working for us.
The other ones are laying low, and it's like, where is the support?
Where's the people that are fighting for our president?
Hey, Kathy, I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna be very blunt here.
You know the three years, I don't know how long you've listened to this program, but you know, I've spent three years on this whole Russia collusion narrative hoax, right?
We got every single part of that story correct.
At the end of the process, when I look at between my radio staff and television staff, and and our ensemble cast, as I call them, and then the few in Congress that actually did the work and the digging, it's less than 30 people that were all hands on deck, and we we beat every institution, every lie that they they they were peddling, we exposed to be a lie.
So, you know, it's gonna take a great awakening of the American people.
You cannot lose heart.
You can't.
America's overcome way too much.
You know, look, uh, I never thought John McCain was a particularly strong candidate at all.
Okay, but there really there was this Obama movement at the time, and I don't think I don't know who at the time could have defeated him.
And I'll say something else.
Republi I'm not a Republican.
Republicans still are weak, kind of spineless, feckless, visionless to me.
And the Republican Party, uh this this 72 million, you know, person movement was uh about ideas led by a charismatic fighter, Donald Trump.
And Americans went in record numbers to the polls for for a guy that said what he meant, meant what he said, fulfilled his promises, and take out coronavirus.
You know, we made so much progress.
And by the way, on coronavirus, we now have another vaccine.
This is number two.
Um, and you know, it's it's frustrating as hell.
I'm not gonna disagree with you uh to watch all of this and not get to the bottom of all of this.
But if we don't get our election laws straightened out, and that means voter ID, signature verification, I mean, all these things that we're thinking about.
You can't have mass mail in ballots, even the New York Times was right and saying it lends itself to corruption, then you know, we're we're only gonna see this sort of thing again, which is what frustrates me about the Georgia governor because they should be counting and comparing the signatures down in Georgia, which they're not doing.
And he has no intention of getting it right, apparently, just hiding in, I guess the governor's mansion down there.
Um, but are these concerns that we have?
Yeah, if the if the stated policies of Bolshevik Bernie, Joe, Kamala, AOC and company are implemented, yeah, we're gonna be in deep trouble.
My vision is is it's more extensive than anybody's out there.
But it's made to look like, well, Biden is coming off with some modern proposal.
There's nothing moderate about med making sure everyone has healthcare.
Would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking in a Biden administration?
No, it would be we would we would work it out.
We would make sure it's eliminated.
We set out the rules for what kind of plant, you know, coal burning plants.
No one's gonna build another coal burning.
We've got to shut the ones down.
We have, but no one is gonna build a new one.
We need to go out and make it clear to the American people that we are going to.
We are going to raise taxes on the wealthy.
That in our I would raise the capital gains tax to the highest rate of 39.5%.
I would double it.
As the mayor said, you cannot let people who are sick, no matter where they come from, no matter what their status, go uncovered.
You can't do that.
It's just going to be taken care of.
Period.
You have to.
It's a humane thing to do.
Guess what?
There's a reason why.
The legal as well as undocumented.
The reason why our society is functioning.
The reason why our economy is growing.
We don't talk about that.
We stand up and act like it's a burden.
It is not a burden.
It's a gift.
11 million people living in the shadows.
I believe they're already American citizens.
To gun owners out there who say, well, a Biden administration means they're going to come for my guns.
Bingo, you're right if you have an assault weapon.
The fact of the matter is they should be illegal, period.
You're not saying that you support everything in the original Green New Deal.
Do you think it goes too far?
Is it unrealistic?
Promising too much.
No, it's not.
I think the Green New Deal deserves an enormous amount of credit for bringing this to a head in a way that it hasn't been before.
It hasn't been.
But the reason I don't know.
I'm not opposed to the Green New Deal.
What I did was went, I thought, beyond, at least in more detail, what the Green New Deal is calling for.
Would you support uh a carbon tax?
Other can some other candidates say they would.
Yeah, no, I I I would.
I know I get criticized and told I get criticized by the new left.
I have the most progressive record of anybody running for the UN anybody who would run.
I tried to warn everybody, and look, and I told you it was going to be close.
I knew I knew it, felt it.
I I never trusted with all these ballots being mailed out anywhere, everywhere.
Never trusted it.
And I don't I don't know if you can trust that system.
You know, especially last minute as it was.
Rushing the changes.
It's uh very frustrating.
You know, we're the greatest country on earth.
We can have a system that we can trust, that we can have faith in, that we can have confidence in.
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