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I s you know what?
The most frustrating part.
Well, there's two parts that are so frustrating in all of this is how much every single solitary vote matters.
And it's just you look at the numbers.
I'm watching, you know, the latest numbers out of Arizona.
It is so close in all of these states.
And it is, it's it's it's right there, and it's so frustrating.
Um, and I know that we're not like these crazy Democrats.
I think Madonna, I think an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Oh, I see that uh, I guess they took down all of the plywood on the stores on Rodeo Driving in New York City, everything that had been boarded up, all these, you know, angry Republican families running out there in the streets that I guess everyone was scared to death about.
Um, and I'll tell you another thing.
I want to go back.
I remember I brought up on this program in September a document put out House Judiciary uh ranking member Jim Jordan.
And this is September.
We and the reason I'm playing this is we all instinctively have known from the get-go that this is a bad idea.
You know, mail-in ballots, mass millions of them, not even requested, no voter ID, varying standards.
It lends itself to taking away the integrity of the election.
Now, can it be done correctly?
Absolutely.
Just look at Florida.
Look at Ohio.
I mean, Florida could have been called, and and give Governor DeSantis all the credit for this, because we had problems in 2016, and he resolved them in Broward and West Palm Beach counties.
And he and he put into place the safeguards with again, you have the population double triple the size of some of the states we're talking about here.
You have two time zones, a lot of elderly people and mail-in voting, etc.
etc.
And we have the results, we probably could have announced that as soon as the panhandle closed at eight o'clock.
And that took much longer than it needed to be on election night, in my view, by everybody.
Uh, I guess we won Alaska.
Gee, as if we is there a big surprise there.
Um, and it's just as frustrating because we're right there.
But this is what Jim Jordan said back in September.
We know what this is about.
We all know what this is about.
This is about these guys wanting chaos and confusion because they I think they know this.
I think they know on election night President Trump's gonna win.
They know on election day, the vote count on election day, President Trump's gonna win.
And they want to keep counting.
Six weeks, four weeks, Iowa caucus, whenever that I don't know when they decided that one.
I still don't know if they've declared a winner.
I don't know if it was Bernie or Biden or whoever was running then.
That's what they want.
Now, he said that in September.
The president said this isn't gonna work out well.
He repeated it often for anybody why because that is exactly right.
They they wanted and they got and they received all the chaos they needed.
The problem is is that if you can't have faith and trust and belief in the integrity of the voting process, then you know, look at what how does that end well for anybody in this country?
It does not.
You know, and then there's this, you know, we got the short-term issues that we're dealing with and the longer term issues.
If this masked unrequested mail-in millions of ballots is not fixed, if we don't with these Republican legislatures put into a place uh uh laws governing elections that mandate voter ID, uh Lindsey Graham is right, you're not gonna win another election in our lifetime.
That that is what is at stake here.
And the reason that I believe, you know, why did they stop the COVID relief first relief package in Congress and request well, we want to change election laws, huh?
Well, we're gonna we're gonna hold back monies from businesses and and citizens that at the time were desperate because you want to talk about immigration and an election reform.
Um, you know, they quote the great Dr. Fauci ad nauseum, but not when he said, yeah, of course, in-person voting can be done very safely with social distancing, and if everyone wears a mask, not a problem.
But the push went on and went on, it went on and it changed, and it does not lend itself to any faith, any trust, any confidence, and any integrity.
And this is now the shift show that we watch unfolding here.
So you got, you know, obviously this election, then you got future elections, and all of it is, you know, now hanging in the balance.
Now, it is amazing.
Here's something that I have not heard anybody make a point of yet.
Um, okay, the the narrative is all the early voting went to to Biden, et cetera, and day of voting favored Trump dramatically.
And but they then the left would argue that the reason is is that Democrats push more for mail-in ballots, and and the president early on said he didn't trust it, except for states like Florida that are already worked out all the kinks in the system, et cetera.
And, you know, and and that was exactly the narrative that Jim Jordan was advancing here.
But you know, I'm gonna think about this from this vantage point.
An absentee balloting, there's of course there's a way to do it with integrity, match voter ID roles, match signature roles, et cetera.
Although when I went to vote in person on election day, they what is the what is your first name?
They know who I was.
Uh what are the first two letters, S E. So the last uh first three letters of your last name, H A N, okay.
Vote, you can vote.
That you, yes, it's me.
Okay, go vote.
Nothing else needed.
Um, or those that, you know, for example, all these power grabs, if these two seats are not picked up in Georgia, it will be an unmitigated radicalism disaster for this country.
Um, I know people might be sick of elections, but you can't forget what's going to happen down in Georgia with these two runoff Senate races either in the in the process of all this.
But if you think of the end of the election, think about it this way.
We we learned from Pfizer that they have 90% efficacy, efficiency in their vaccine this past Monday, it's Wednesday.
Imagine if it was the Monday before election day, the Tuesday prior, November 2nd, the election day, November 3rd.
What if that happened?
And we had at that point over a hundred million ballots cast.
Now, I wonder if people might have, if they had that news, absorbed that and the magnitude of that and the great scientific accomplishment, and all the whole effort that what Donald Trump, I think, did brilliantly with Operation Warp Speed more than anything else, is he had these companies all competing against each other to get it first.
And that competition really, you know, a lot of scientists, medical researchers, they take great pride in what they do and they want to get it right.
And we're in the final stage human trials and they were continuing since late July.
So you knew there were nobody, there were no instances of death from the vaccines they were using.
You knew that antibodies were being created from phase two human trials, you knew that that the side effects were minimal or else they would have stopped the studies.
That's just general protocol.
They did at different times for turned out not to be vaccine related, and how that could impact the race.
Or would some people, if we had one election day, one, and we figure out a way that we have one election day that also includes voter ID.
Also, you you build into the system a way to vote absentee.
You build into the system a way that is universal, unlike, say, Georgia, after the Georgia Democratic Party, the Democratic Senatorials Campaign Committee, the Congressional Committee, Democratic Party all sued.
They come up with this stupid agreement down in Georgia where the person that makes an application for a mail and ballot, uh, you just you can now match it on the application versus the ballot.
It's probably going to be the same person, but you have no knowledge of who the person really is to put in the application, and yet everybody same day voting in Georgia, picture ID, uh, and it was run by another database.
That's not exactly equal protection and equal justice.
So it's there's there's all sorts of things here.
We're gonna have elections, we're expanding out.
All right, a month before we start voting.
Okay.
Then we're gonna have, you know, the counting can continue, and we'll just, you know, pick a date.
We'll have a court decide that we can do it three days after the statutory deadline, which is the pace of the case pending before the Supreme Court in Pennsylvania.
Just decide.
Well, you know, it's nuts.
Um, and it's by the way, unconstitutional.
Or the fact that, okay, we know it's COVID, but yet the law allows for partisan observers in all of these states and all of these people that have come out and said they weren't allowed to observe.
Well, it's a violation of election law.
Not one Democrat have I ever heard concerned about any of these issues.
You know, one of the things that is getting very intriguing, and we're we're doing our own deep dive investigation into this.
We had this woman, Laura uh Cox on the program from Michigan, the 6,000 votes that flip because of the technical glitch of this software program known as Dominion, also used as John Solomon had pointed out in 28 states.
Um, you know, we're we're doing a pretty deep dive into this right now.
We're coming up with some very interesting, uh, a very interesting understanding of the whole picture.
I just don't want to jump the gun on it, because we are thorough, we are complete, we try to get all our facts straight, everything corroborated before we bring it to you, but we're watching it very closely, and there's a lot there, in my opinion, from what we can see.
But when you think of, okay, now we get up to election day, and in the final three days of the campaign, Donald Trump, barn storms, massive rallies, 14 of them.
And Joe Biden, yeah, most of September, half of September, he's hiding in the bunker.
And then even taking, you know, what, five days off before the final debate.
Now, I think by any objective measure, in my humble opinion, you could disagree.
I thought Donald Trump dominated in that final debate.
And I thought it was a much better appearance than the first debate.
I also thought the exchange with Savannah Guthrie helped the president also.
I thought he handled it particularly well in an extremely combative environment.
And again, these are things happening in the lead up to decision day.
But if somebody or you know, a hundred million people vote before these events even happen, they're not getting the full context and picture of what is what is unfolding in the choice that is truly before them.
Now, for those of those Americans, our fellow Americans that aren't say as hardcore as maybe we all are.
Um usually for them, the campaign, they'll pay some attention on the periphery leading up to, say, Labor Day, and then after Labor Day, usually officially the campaigns begin in earnest, and people start paying a little bit more attention, although you know, people make up their minds about Joe Biden and Donald Trump fairly quickly.
But there are what is something like the Monday before election day, because this happened the Monday a week later, just six days after election day, that you have the Pfizer announcement on a vaccine, or you don't have the final debate, but a hundred million people voted.
There's something, there's something wrong with the process that is continuing to extend out further and further and further.
You know, this period of time and the methods and the lacking and and frankly, lack of standards, uh, simple basic standards, and the outright mailing to people that don't even request ballots in the millions, it lends itself to take away confidence, credibility in the system.
That's why this poll is out yesterday with so many of you rightly feeling as you do.
It's not by accident.
And it was very predictable, and we all did predict it.
And, you know, and then you look at the razor thin margins, and here you've got the level of frustration where we all are.
Because this is all very winnable.
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You know, I tell you, the mob, the media, I can't even...
I can't even find the words anymore.
Four years, all it was was them questioning the results of the 2016 election.
Biden is out there, Mr. President elect.
How would you like to bash Trump?
And they tee it up.
Bash Trump.
Next question.
Mr. President elect.
I'm like, oh, I mean, it is so corrupt.
I, you know, I just there's such a sad part of all of this.
And by the way, it's Veterans Day.
We'll check in with Ollie North later.
You know, and you think about the blood, the sweat, the tears, the death, the sacrifice of so many.
And then you look at institutional corruption.
I don't even think the mob believe I think they think that they're like on a mission from God.
They've so convinced themselves that they actually are fair and balanced.
It is insane how off the off the walls they are.
I'm watching this.
You know, Biden, for example, in September, I will not declare victory until the election is independently certified.
Vice President Biden, final question for you.
Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted?
And will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?
Yes.
Yeah.
So was he asked about his weakness, his frailty, his struggling cognitive abilities?
No.
Was he asked about packing the courts?
No.
Was he asked about legislative filibusters?
Do you ever give a satisfactory answer on all these things?
No.
Statehood for DC, Puerto Rico?
No.
He didn't get asked any questions.
He got to hide in what is the media mob, big tech mob, you know, candidate protection programs.
It's unbelievable.
You know, it's uh all of this is just so sad.
We're just, you know, a week and a day out of the election, and the mob big tech that they are now deciding what information we can and cannot have.
I've never seen anything like this.
I've never ever watched such, you know, unified insane corruption.
And by the way, there's like 71, nearly 72 million of us that have a very different view.
We're not very well thought of, are we?
You know, it is, you know, DNMSDNC.
Oh, tragedy has been averted.
Biden saved democracy.
How did they act in 2016?
Republicans acting that way.
We'll continue.
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They were grilling the hell out of me.
How are you feeling right now?
I'm kind of pissed.
I feel like I just got played.
And I heard him say to the supervisor that they messed up yesterday.
And I was...
So I was like, oh, what did they mess up on?
And uh he told the uh supervisor that um they had uh postmarked one of the ballots for the fourth instead of the third, because they were supposed to hit uh put them for third.
Let me let me make good on that promise, right?
Okay, this storm is getting crazy, right?
And it's out of a lot of people's control.
And so the reason they called me in is to try to harness that storm.
Try to reel it back in before it gets really crazy.
Because we have senators involved, we have the Department of Justice involved, we have lawyers team styling a hold of me.
I I'm not actually.
I am trying to twist you a little bit because in that, believe it or not, your mind will kick in.
Um we like to control our mind, and when we do that, we can convince ourselves of a memory.
But when you're under a little bit of stress, which is what I'm doing to you all purposely, um, your mind can be a little bit clearer.
And we're gonna do a different exercise too, to make your mind a little bit clearer.
Good to go.
So, but this is all on purpose.
Roger.
I'm not scaring you, but I am scaring here.
It seems like they were trying to make me distrust y'all.
And at the same time, it it kind of affected, but at the same time, I was like, nah, these guys have had my back since the get-go.
So that's why I continued.
Do you think these federal agents have your back?
At this point, no.
Do you think these federal agents are really interested in investigating fraud?
Honestly, I don't think they are.
And in fact, you heard Weisenberg tell a supervisor they were backdaying the ballots to make it appear they've been collected November 3rd.
You still stand by that.
Yeah.
Yes.
I mean, that is the strangest thing.
Washington Post says, no, Richard Hopkins, the postal service worker in Pennsylvania, recanted his claims of ballot tampering and and postmarking earlier dates after the election.
And then he gets interrogated and you know, coerced to drop the allegations, and we're pressuring you in this mind.
What is that?
I mean, that is the strangest story I've ever heard.
By the way, we do hear all these stories about dead people voting.
We'll get to that in a second.
Um, and all the other corruption.
I'm gonna give you a whole list of what we the latest is with that.
By the way, there's a listener in Fairfax, uh, Mary Rem is her name.
Hello, Mary uh Rem.
Want to wish you a happy, happy 90th birthday.
Wow, I'll never make it to 90, Linda, will I?
Not with not with weeks like we have now.
I don't know, you're pretty ordnery.
You might get that.
Oh, is the honoring this make it possible to make it till 90?
Is that what the criteria is?
You're stubborn as all get out, and that's half the battle of survival, in my humble opinion.
And you're not pot kettle.
First of all, we're not talking about me.
Well, I just asked you, are you stubborn?
Yes, and I freely admit it.
Always remember people who say first of all are armed with facts, prepare yourself.
First of all, first of all, I'm sorry.
Well, anyway, Mary Remember.
Happy birthday, Mary, 90 years beyond.
You must have a lot of clout because you got Linda right in your corner, which is a great thing.
I got a special email about Mary from her daughter Marguerite.
So I had to do it.
Well, we don't have to.
We're glad to.
We're very thankful she's listening.
Uh like we have everybody else.
By the way, Breitbart just reported Connecticut House uh GOP House rep Craig uh Fishpine was declared the loser in the race for his seat until a town clerk found an error had caused the race to be called for his democratic opponent.
The Wallingford Town Clerk said her office discovered that votes were not bit had not been recorded in the state's reporting system from one particular voting site, the Yalesville Elementary School.
The school is one of nine polling places that the 90th House District included.
Uh I can't answer if it was a clerical or a computer error uh in the elections management system.
All I know is we caught it and yesterday and we amended it, and as of Wednesday, morning uh unofficial results of the Secretary of State's elections website showed the incumbent ahead of the challenger, Jim Janks, according to the mirror and a recount uh because it was less than 0.50%.
Um here's one Epic Times is saying that the census data shows that the state has of Michigan has under 80% of the population under over the age of 18, unless the state's age group changed dramatically in less than a year, and its voting population would be around 7.8 million, according to the state's voter information center.
The Epic Times is saying that they found over 8.1 million registered voters for the election.
That would make the registration rate over 100%, or 240,000 more registered voters than states with voting age population, which goes to my larger point about we better fix this.
Lindsey Graham, I think is right.
You don't you don't get this all fixed, and you're not Republicans will never win an election again.
By the way, reports all over the place about dead people that actually voted the Atlanta Journal Constitution and Washington Times had a lot of reports out.
Uh this one, Washington Times, uh reporting that a woman by the name of Deborah Jean Christensen from Roswell, I used to live in Roswell, suburb of Atlanta, passed away in May of 2019, yet somehow registered to vote on October 5th, the day after the state's deadline of register.
Uh James Blollick of Covington, Georgia used the same, had his name used to cast about last week.
He died in 2006.
Uh the same is true for Linda Kessler from Nicholson, who died in 2003, and also this guy in Trenton, Edward, I can't say his name, who died in 2015.
Now the state of Georgia is now having and undergoing a hand recount of the results.
Uh, so we'll see what happens in the state of Georgia, and then obviously January 5th, you got the two Senate runoffs that are gonna be taking place, which are gonna be really, really, really can I say really again?
Important on so many different levels.
Um, you know, let me, you know, so one of the things that you keep hearing is where is the evidence?
Well, I actually think it's very, you know, look at the guy from Pennsylvania, the postal worker.
Now, when you talk to federal agents, if you lie to a federal agent, I guess, unless you're a Democrat, unless you're Hillary Clinton, unless your name is Comey or McCabe, both referred to by the inspector general for lying.
Um, you're gonna be facing charges of perjury.
So you gotta ask yourself a question.
Why would anybody for even strong political beliefs be willing to sign, have a sworn affidavit that they're signing that they observed A, B or C. Because, you know, last night, for example, Kaylee McEnaney came on with 234 pages of affidavits, uh, alleging uh election irregularities.
I think it was just the state of of Michigan alone.
Now, do you really believe, and you can if you want, but I'll let you decide that 234 pages of sworn affidavits under the threat of perjury that people would sign them if they talk about it.
One challenger, for example, the law requires that the Secretary of Michigan election officials assure that only ballots cast by individuals entitled to cast a vote in the election are counted.
Well, that matters.
And make sure that all the ballots cast are lawful voters that are counted.
And all right, so that's what the law says.
And to make sure that the ballots cast by lawful voters are counted.
By the way, like Pennsylvania, like all these swing states, you're also allowed partisan observers of all of this.
One challenger saw a batch of about 50 ballots fed multiple times into a ballot scanner.
Another witness saw a batch of ballots scanned five times.
Many challengers reported that the election officials recorded January 1st, you know, 1900 in the poll book as a dated birth for a number of individuals who were not in the poll books so that they can count those ballots.
One witness, again, signed affidavit under the threat of perjury, set a stack of 35 ballots counted, even though the ballots could not be connected to a voter record.
One witness talking about provisional ballots being placed in a tabulation box at this one particular center.
One challenger saying poll workers were adding marks to a ballot where there was no mark for any candidate.
At least two challenges observing ballots counted where there was no signature or postmark on the ballot envelope.
You know, remember, and six feet was the closest partisan observers got.
Now they should have made the you know the accommodations for COVID and social distancing, because then that becomes the reason why you have to be six feet away.
No, it's actually 20 feet away, and other people saying 100 feet away.
One challenger saw poll workers adding these marks uh in one batch of ballots, sixty or more uh again, another affidavit, ballot envelopes bore the same signature on the opened outdoor envelope.
An affidavit signed by somebody says that.
One Michigan voter saying that her deceased son has been recorded as voting twice since he passed away, more recently in this 2020 election.
Um and I can keep I can keep going.
I have them all here in front of me.
But you get the point.
And, you know, it's and then you wonder why people have no faith, no trust, no confidence in the outcome.
Now, why didn't they have these problems in Florida?
Why didn't they have these problems in Ohio?
Why is it that they want, you know, how is it you're just gonna mail out ballots to people that's not even asking for ballots?
Why did the Democrats push so hard, even holding up monies for COVID relief because they wanted to change election laws in the country?
Why is it if it says partisan observers may observe at polling locations and stay until the time the counting of votes is complete?
Why did all these partisan observers come out publicly and say they were not permitted?
And that includes absentee ballot, mail-in ballot envelopes, as they are opened with the ability to observe, meaning you get to look at it and you get to look at it up close.
You get to, in other words, it takes all questions of any impropriety away, which you would think everybody would think is a good thing for the process, a good thing for the country.
Is it that we're incapable of doing it?
No, we know we're capable of doing it because so many states do do it and do it well.
Um you got a Texas social worker, KWTX is reporting, a social worker in Texas has been charged with 134 counts in election fraud investigation involving the registration of 67 of a facility residents uh that that they I guess worked at.
Texas Attorney General announced it in a press release.
Well, wait a second.
What happened to the media mob and the Democrats charged there's no evidence of any election fraud?
Okay, well, Kelly Brunner is her name, was arrested the day before election day and released later that day after posting combined bonds of $35,000, according to reports.
She is accused of submitting voter registration applications for the 67 residents at this state supported living center without their signature or effective consent while purporting to act as their agent, according to the attorney General.
Oh.
What about the glitches in the software?
How do you think that happened?
Why do you think that happened?
Now, if it happened in one district and all these swing states used it, is it not good for the American people to go through and make sure the glitch didn't show up elsewhere?
Is that a good thing?
Or is that a bad thing?
I mean, you know, we gotta ask, you gotta ask yourself what kind of system we want in this country, and you know, what are these what how do you remedy, for example, if the law or specific aspects of the law aren't followed?
These are all the questions that you know what, no Democrat is really gonna be able to answer.
Oh, they'll just repeat the same mantra, and the media mobile regurgitate the mantra.
As a matter of fact, they won't even change it.
They'll use the same talking points, each and every one of them.
Uh, we want every vote counted.
That's so on and so forth.
This Donald Trump is trying to steal the election.
He's being a sore loser.
Well, what were the Democrats for the last four years in this country?
Anyway, uh, what are you saying, Linda to me?
You want to raise a point.
The glitches, the Dominion software glitches.
Software does what you tell it to do.
A glitch is someone manually interrupting the code to tell it to do something else.
It's not a glitch.
Well, that's the thing about this particular program is I understand it, and I DBS.
Um I don't want to get ahead of myself here because I don't know everything yet, but my understanding is this particular software actually allows for specific markings as well.
Mm-hmm.
Whether by hardware that's clipped on to the internal drive or done by remote logins previously put onto the machine, which has everything to do with it being on the internet.
And it's also my understanding that Democrats had had hearings on all of this throughout the entire country.
Right.
And that the Democrats at the time were more upset than the Republicans about it.
Is that true too?
I wouldn't say they were upset.
I think it was fiend.
Feigned.
Mm-hmm.
Fiend.
Fiend, fame.
You know, I don't know the motto.
Whatever.
Uh 800, 941 Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
Look, I say it and I really mean it, especially, God forbid if these tax increases are coming.
Oh boy, you're in for the by the way, I'm gonna predict something too.
This country is going to suffer buyer's remorse, the likes of which we've never seen before.
You're gonna Donald Trump will have gotten the vaccine.
The economy you you'll see back on track.
Joe Biden will never see, rarely.
We God only knows what crises we're gonna deal with in the next, you know, God forbid four years if he ever gets in.
And uh uh it's scary.
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If you want to be a part of this uh program, this extravaganza, is the senator with us?
I think so, right?
Uh okay.
Um, he's been amazing.
Um, you know, I remember when I think it was Alan Dirsch who had said one of the best brightest students and debaters he's ever met in his life or had the honor of teaching and and being a professor to at Harvard Law was uh Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.
Um, and it's been on display uh since election day as he lays out all of the constitutional issues surrounding all of this.
Uh, Senator, welcome back, glad you're with us.
How are you?
Sean, I'm doing terrific.
How are you doing?
Uh, These are busy days and nights.
Um a little stressful, but like that's life, right?
Um, let me I I really want to take a deep dive and really just open it up to you.
Because like you know, like our friend Mark Levin, this is really your wheelhouse.
This is what you do, and you've done such a good job of explaining it, and just go through all of the varying issues that you see.
And you know, I I actually agree, Senator Lindsey Graham got it right.
If we don't fix, you know, sending out millions of ballots that aren't even requested in voter ID laws, uh I'm not confident Republican will ever win again uh the presidency.
Uh never mind what would happen if we don't win those two Georgia Senate seats.
But I want you to just lay out from a constitutional vantage point where you see this and why there's such importance here that people don't even want to talk about in the media or on uh the Democratic side.
Well, it's it's it's a very simple principle that an election is over when the results are final, when when the the v votes have been counted and and when any of the legal challenges have been concluded.
And in this instance, we had an election eight days ago, but there are multiple recounts across the country.
There is litigation in state after state after state, and and we don't know what the result of that litigation is going to be.
And and and the way our judicial system works, it exists to adjudicate claims, to hear claims, and and the objective that that that everyone should want is to count every legal vote, but at the same time not to count any votes that were cast illegally, that were cast contrary to state law or that were fraudulent.
And and right now the Trump campaign is busy litigating in state courts and federal courts across the country challenging some of the ballots that came in.
We've got to wait for our court system to resolve those claims, and that's going to be a matter of of weeks, not months.
We will see them resolved in the coming weeks.
But the mainstream media doesn't want to wait for that.
They want their guy Joe Biden declared the victor no matter what.
And and so what's going on right now is really bizarre because the media is just screaming that anyone who doesn't immediately herald Joe Biden's the victor is somehow undermining democracy.
Well, that well, that's just nutty.
When when the results are final, we'll respect what the results are, but but the process needs to play out.
I think it's extremely well said.
Let's look at the case pending before the Supreme Court in the state of Pennsylvania as it relates to the extension or the acceptance of ballots uh past the statutory legal deadline.
Yeah, so that that is an important issue, and it is a pure issue of law, which if the Supreme Court reaches it, I I I think we will prevail.
Uh the question is so the Constitution provides that state legislatures set the time and manner of elections and and and how presidential elections occur.
And under Pennsylvania state law passed by the legislature, uh votes have to be received by election day.
Now the governor didn't like that.
The governor's a Democrat, and the governor didn't like that.
So he went to the state Supreme Court, which is also Democratic, and the state Supreme Court just changed Pennsylvania law.
They decreed never mind what Pennsylvania law says, never mind what the state legislature said.
We're going to add three more days to the end of it and say that you can receive votes three days after state law says you can, and they don't have to be postmarked if they're received.
And and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court just wrote that.
I mean, just made it up.
And so the question of law is the Constitution doesn't say the state Supreme Court, doesn't even say the state.
It specifies the state legislature, which is unusual.
Uh Justice uh Alito wrote an opinion uh where he laid this out and and he described that the that the plaintiffs are very lucky likely to prevail on this question.
So on the pure question of law, I think there are likely five votes to conclude the Pennsylvania Supreme Court didn't have the authority to change state law.
Now here's the dance downside.
It is not clear how many votes fall into that bucket of those received after election day.
Um there have been different reports that they may be around 10,000.
The margin right now that Joe Biden is leading in Pennsylvania is about 45,000 votes.
And I think if it is unlikely to impact the results, uh there is a decent chance the Supreme Court won't take the case.
If they take the case, uh I think the Trump campaign prevails, but if it's a small enough number of votes that it won't change the outcome, it wouldn't shock me to see the Supreme Court decline to take it at at all.
So why would they miss an opportunity to weigh in on such a constitutionally important issue is that, uh, Senator, because you are right, and as always, it couldn't be any more clear in the Constitution that that this power, this authority is granted to state legislators.
Um, and I also think in the long term, we've got to really examine going forward um w what standards we're going to have in every state, especially where there are Republican majorities in the legislature, they better start doing their job.
Your thoughts.
Well, the U.S. Supreme Court is unusual among courts in that it has what's called a discretionary jurisdiction.
It can choose whether to take a case or not.
In a given year, typically there are about 8,000, what are called petitions for Sir Surori.
They're requests for the Supreme Court to take the case.
Out of the 8,000, in a typical year, they take about 80.
So they take about 1%.
Uh the vast majority of cases they don't take.
Um and and so there's a pretty heavy presumption among justices that they don't take cases unless there is an urgent reason to take it.
Um the issue of the state Supreme Court extending the deadline would alter the results in the presidential election, I think the court would take it, and I think they would resolve it pursuant to the Constitution.
If it wouldn't make a difference, what the other side will argue, what what the Pennsylvania Governor's Office will argue is it doesn't matter how you resolve this case, the answer is the same anyway.
And so in order to get the court to take the case, I think the Trump campaign has to combine that with other litigation challenging other ballots that are at issue, unless the the universe of late received ballots is larger than some of the numbers reported.
We don't have a firm number on it, so I don't know for sure.
If it were 50,000 instead of 10,000, or if it were 100,000, I think the odds would be much higher the court would take it.
If it's substantially smaller than the margin and the margin hasn't been reduced by other litigation, I think there's a a real chance the court uh lets it pass.
There are other legal issues.
One that is has risen, and I I hear a lot of people making this equal protection argument is that the Democratic Party of Georgia, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Congressional Committees, all you know filed suit as it related to absentee ballots in Georgia.
They were able to negotiate a settlement which allowed the application signature as long as it matched the signature on the ballot to be, you know, considered valid and true, while day of voters were their signatures were matched against a state database.
Um it would make sense that if people wanted to commit fraud, that they would sign the application, get the ballot and sign the ballot too, and and you have two different standards for cross-referencing and and affirming signatures.
Your thought.
So that's been a claim that that is in some of the lawsuits that have been filed.
Both that claim and the other claim we were talking about a minute ago, the state Supreme Court's changing the legal standard.
Both of those are issues the Supreme Court has considered before 20 years ago in in Bush versus Gore.
You know, you and I have spent a lot of time on air talking about my new book, one vote away, how how it's a good thing.
By the way, the book I finally finished it.
The book is phenomenal.
Thank you.
Um and there's a chapter on Bush versus Gore.
There's a chapter on if you want to understand what the litigation is, what's going on in all these recounts, the book one vote away, which with Sean, it's in its fifth week in the New York Times bestseller list, which I'm certain is driving the New York Times crazy.
They hate putting your books on there and they're not.
They really do, don't they?
By the way, the book could the book be any more timely.
It came out just at the time where you know we we we had the battle over Amy Coney Barrett.
Anyway, go ahead.
Yeah.
Well, the the chapter on Bush versus Gore takes everyone behind the scenes into the legal battle in Florida in 2000.
One of the issues that we litigated in Florida was the state Supreme Court changing the date, which is the issue in Pennsylvania.
And another issue, the issue on which we won at the end of the day in Bush versus Gore was the equal protection claim.
And and and I describe in in the book One Vote Away how, you know, I was there the night we were writing that complaint, and when we first filed it, it was at the time a pretty weak claim because it was anticipatory.
We were saying, well, here's all the things that could go wrong, and if those went wrong, then it would violate the equal protection.
I remember we're sitting there going, well, this is this is pretty weak.
And and it was a the entire process of those thirty-six days, that equal protection claim got stronger and stronger and stronger each day because the Florida recount erupted into chaos.
There were sixty seven counties across Florida, and every one of them had a different standard for the counts.
And some were counting under votes, some were counting one corner, two quarters, three quarter Chads, and and it it was so chaotic that ultimately the Supreme Court concluded by a vote of seven to two, what even five to four.
It was seven to two that what was happening, the chaos in Florida violated the Equal Protection Clause, and then it was five to four on the remedy, the the outcome, and and a majority of justices said enough is enough.
You've counted the ballots four times.
George W. Bush has won all four times.
This case is over.
That took thirty-six days with the equal protection claims, you might lay one out now, but it's gonna take the Trump lawyers really building the predicate and and and laying out the proof in court and and prevailing on the litigation, and and that's gonna take, as I said, a few weeks for the judicial system to move forward.
Let me ask you one one other important legal question.
Uh Senator Ted Cruz is with us, by the way, his book is a best bestseller.
We have it up on we'll put it up on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, and bookstores everywhere, one vote away.
Um all these swing states have laws very similar, like Pennsylvania partisan observers may observe polling locations, may stay until the time that the counting of votes is complete, then they go into specific uh statutory language about they can be present during absentee, mail-in ballot envelopes while they're open.
We know this didn't happen according to the testimony of so many, and the affidavits being signed by so many.
Um I seem to think there's a bigger case there than others.
Your thoughts.
Well, there's a clear violation, and we know it occurred, and we know it occurred in in multiple places.
We know it occurred in Philadelphia, we know it occurred in Detroit.
In Detroit, we know they used poster board and covered up and hid the ballot counting room.
Uh in Philadelphia, they took the Republican ballot watchers and they made them, they kept some of them out, others they kept 20 feet away or 25 feet away.
If you've ever tried to actually look at a ballot, you can't see anything from 25 feet away.
Ultimately the Trump campaign went to tu Pennsylvania state court and they won in state court.
They got an order from the state court that their observers had to be within six feet.
Even six feet is tough to see a ballot, but it's I don't think you can unless you have unless you have superman style vision, right?
Yeah.
Um and so it's clear there were a significant chunk of votes for which there was no Republican ballot observer watching the county.
Now, on one level that may seem like a procedural violation, what's the big deal, but but the big deal is the reason you have the laws requiring observers from both sides, from both Republicans and Democrats, is it is a tool to prevent fraud, to prevent people from stealing the election.
And and here's an analogy I've used a couple of times.
If someone breaks into a bank and shuts down all the security cameras, are are they doing it because they intend to comply the law with the law and they don't intend to do anything wrong?
No, the natural inference is if you're trying to avoid anyone seeing what you're doing, it's because you're doing something you don't want them to see.
And and so uh th that I think is a serious claim.
The challenge the Trump lawyers have in in both state and federal court in Pennsylvania is is what the remedy is, how you fix it.
Um and and that it it's gonna depend on the proof they lay out in court.
Uh the remedy might be recounting the ballots that were not observed, but we don't know if they were commingled with other ballots.
The remedy uh might conceivably be excluding some of the ballots, but that's the that's a high threshold.
Courts don't like to do that.
Uh but what it's gonna take is is the Trump trial team building the evidentiary case and convincing a trial court and ultimately an appellate court.
It's so and you know how hard it is more than anybody.
Um, I really could talk to you for hours on this.
I I want you to come back, if you will, one day this week, and maybe we'll just take questions from our our listeners because uh people are just dying to understand this, and your book one vote away could not be more timely in so many ways, and uh, you've been amazing in and helping to educate a lot of people.
I gotta give the great one Mark Levin has been great, who's also a big fan of yours, as you know.
Uh, thank you, Senator Cruz.
We appreciate all your time.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Thank you for everything you're doing.
It it really matters, particularly right now, keeping people informed.
So I appreciate your leadership.
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Sean, you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
And a second, on this Veterans Day, we're gonna talk to our good friend Colonel Oliver North.
He's got a terrific new book out, by the way.
Uh Veterans Lament is this the America our heroes fought for.
How profound, considering the times we live in, right?
Um, and on so many different levels.
You know, you just think for a minute.
You think days like today, I'll think of my dad, who served four years in the Pacific, World War II, told me about it.
He didn't even want to talk about it, to be honest.
I'd push and push and push, and he'd show me his navy knife, and you know, it it was he went in what, 18, 19 years old, four years in the Pacific.
So many brave men and women.
We don't have to get up every day and worry about so much because we take it all for granted, but so many people went, fought, bled, died, risked their lives, come back with the most severe injuries for us.
And it's like I feel at times we don't give them the credit, the acknowledgement.
Um, I know we're busy and we're always every one of us is gulping water in our own way, whatever we happen to do, kids off to school, and etc.
But it's I don't want us to be a nation that forgets the cost of freedom.
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?
I hear people say we don't need this war.
But I say there's some things worth fighting for.
What about our freedom?
And this piece of ground, we didn't get to keep them by backing down.
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in.
Before you start your preaching, let me ask you this, my friend.
Have you forgotten?
How it felt that day.
See your homeland underfive.
And our people blown away.
Have you forgotten?
When those towers fail.
We had neighbors still inside.
Going through a living hair.
And you say we should worry about Bin Laden.
Have you forgotten?
Yeah!
Yeah!
It took all the footage off my TV.
Said it's too disturbing.
Are you and me?
It'll just read anger.
That's what the experts say.
It was up to me.
I'd show it every day Some say this country Is just out looking for a fight Oh After 9-11 men, I'd have to say that's right.
Have you forgotten?
How it felt that day.
See your homeland underfied.
And our people blown away.
Have you forgotten?
When those towers fail, we had neighbors still inside.
Going through living mail.
Don't you tell me not to worry about Ben Laden guitar solo Have you forgotten?
Bye.
I hope we never forget Colonel Oliver North's brand new book out.
Think about the title of this book, Veterans Lament.
Is this the America Our Heroes Fought for?
Colonel.
Good to good to hear from you, my friend.
How are you?
Happy Veterans.
You know, I was just thinking to myself, over all the years you and I have done things together.
We've done Veterans Day probably more than any other holiday.
And it's great to be with you again.
As you were talking about your dad, my dad on this day in 1944 was in the battle for Metz, which was a big fortification right on the French and German border.
Nineteen days and nights, these guys were under incredible pressure.
In the aftermath, my dad was and we did not even realize this until he passed.
My dad was awarded a silver star.
He's the first hero I ever knew.
And when he came back, you said the same thing.
Your dad never talked about it.
My dad didn't either.
And every once in a while we'd see him at the beach or somewhere and he'd take off his shirt and you could see the scars.
Well, I'll tell you about it someday, but he never did.
And so I when you're playing that song, I'm thinking back to those kinds of memories and the kinds of moments we've shared, and I appreciate you mentioning the book.
By the way, I'm now at the National Center for Healthy Veterans in Virginia.
And Alta Vista Virginia is a just an absolutely beautiful place.
It's right on the river, and it's being converted.
It's a farm down here.
It's being converted into uh Valor Farm, which is part of the National Center for Healthy Veterans.
General Dopey's heads it up.
You're standing right here listening to at least my end of the conversation.
And I just wanted to put in the plug for him.
Go to healthy veterans.org and see what they're doing.
How are you doing?
Uh well, I miss my friend.
We haven't talked in a while.
Uh, and I know you're doing well.
You know, but you there's a lot you're bringing up here about, you know, is this what our American heroes fought for?
You know, look at the battle over standing for the anthem or the flag or the flag or the pledge of the of allegiance, or you know, those that want to revise or falsify even American history and and not look at any American greatness, how we have advanced the human condition more than any other country and abuse power less and and given more for the cause of freedom anywhere.
Um, it's sad we it we we just don't even teach our kids any of that.
Well, uh I'll tell you, when we sat down to start this bush, and David Ketch is a dear dear friend, he's a Marine, he has a bachelor's degree, four or five master's degrees, and a PhD, he teaches and he lectures all over the country on leadership.
And I I feel like a Piker beside him because he's such an eloquent writer, far better than I am, far better than you are, because you and I've been together working on some books as well.
And the reality of it is this book, and it we sent out a survey to over five hundred veterans, and we asked them questions about things that really matter.
And if and if you look at what you just said, that's exactly what they're concerned about.
I mean, the the the idea of a growing acceptance of socialism, the fact that our bill of rights, particularly the second amendment, are gonna be I'm I'm calling you from Virginia.
What am I what am I saying?
In Virginia, you know, we've got a governor who is a baby killing, gun-grabbing race baiter, okay, who is now talking about measures we need to do, for example, as you know, when I when I have a grandson, right, and now it's a granddaughter as well, but grandchildren, 14, 18 of them, when they turn 14, I give them a box.
It's the only president I'm allowed to give that Betsy doesn't participate in.
Not because she doesn't want to, she's this is ought to be yours.
And on the box that says, if you learn to use everything in this box, you'll never be hungry, you'll never be lost, and you need fear of nothing.
And they open the box, and the first thing they find is a holy Bible.
And I and they want to start, and the next thing is a map and a compass.
And the last thing, of course, on the bottom is a 20-gauge shotgun.
Remington 787.
So the first thing they want to use is I said, No, no, wait a minute.
It just happens seven months a year.
There are 31 days.
And by the way, there are 31 proverbs.
So you do one a day, and at the end of a month, come on back and we'll do a test on whether you whether you understood was in proverbs.
Then I'll show you how to use the map and compass, and then I'll show you how to take apart the shotgun, put it back together blindfolded, and then I'll take you out and show you how to shoot it.
They took me and I go to this place and I learn all about gun safety, and you know, you're pointing the the gun downrange.
He goes, Do you think you could remember everything?
I'm like 10 or 11.
I said, absolutely.
He goes, okay, if you come back next week and you can tell me everything you learned today, I'll let you shoot.
I'm like, what?
That's the worst.
And and what our governor wants me to do now is to get a background check before I give that Model 870 20 gauge shotgun to my grandson.
Can you imagine with the background check on a 14-year-old will show?
I have no idea.
It's ludicrous.
Depends what the deep state put there.
That's why it's in this book.
The problems we've got in this country is the lack of a moral foundation anymore.
And I I deeply believe, and I know you do too, that goes back to 1973 when we decided the government of the United States was going to pay for Kelly babies.
I mean, it's not a good thing.
Well, you're talking about Governor Northam, and this is the guy that said, Well, first we'll deliver the baby and make sure the baby's comfortable, and then we'll the mother gets to decide.
I'm like, okay, that's called infanticide, and you know, it's just so radical, you can't even believe it.
Do you think you see I think look look at this election, for example.
Seventy-one plus million Americans voting for the president.
You know, looking at this and and you see the chaos that was sown by just you know, random ballots sent here, there, and everywhere, requested or not requested, no vital no consistent voter ID laws, then you know, observers that by law are supposed to observe or not allowed to observe.
And everybody is so, you know, shocked that this could happen in this country.
Your thoughts.
Well, does anybody remember back to the year 2000?
I do.
It was the Gore versus George W. Bush.
I know you and I do, but I'm hoping most of your listeners do as well, because they're they're at least informed, but there are apparently a whole lot of people who don't realize that that election wasn't decided until the 13th of December 2000.
And and and the the process is all laid out in Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution, which says state legislatures are supposed to decide the process for voting in your state.
And it lays it out very clearly.
And the timing for those votes.
Well, guess what?
In Pennsylvania, a judge overruled the state legislature.
I I don't even know if he knew that the state legislation said you've got to have all the ballots in by such and such a time.
And and violates the Constitution of the United States, and nobody wants to challenge that.
I mean, there are those of us, you and me, and a handful of others that say that's got to be challenged.
It's an unconstitutional election if you if you count those ballots.
And that's why I love it when the president comes out and says we need to count every legal ballot.
And my my supposition, Sean, is that if they count nothing but every legal ballot, he will continue to be the president of the United States.
Now, is that going to happen?
I don't know.
I don't know if the gift of prophecy.
Is this the America our heroes fought for?
Talk about just so people know and understand who you are.
Because when you went this whole little Iran-Contra thing, which I was riveted to, which actually inspired me in part to do what I'm doing now.
Um I watched every second of it, and you had gone to Iran and you had a suicide pill in your pocket.
You already had I don't know how many purple hearts and served your country in in combat.
And then your country kind of turned on you a little bit.
I felt like they've turned on Michael Flynn unfairly, I believe.
Thoughts.
Well, the people of America didn't turn against me, the kind of thing.
No, the people ran came in like bulldozers and with supporting you.
Yeah.
So what am I?
I'm the husband of one, the father of four, and the grandfather of eighteen.
And that's my mission in life.
That's why that's why David and I sat and wrote this book.
It's it's what I want our kids, our grandkids to have is as the same kind of opportunity that we had growing up.
I I want the sanctity of life respected.
I want the Bill of Rights, all of it respected.
You know, I over a hundred times in my career in the Marine Corps, I raised my right hand and took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
And it was, in fact, if you look at what we posted on my podcast today, it's right there.
Go to Oliver North.com and click on that.
It'll show you today's podcast up on YouTube.
And over a hundred times what I did that with young guys who were enlisting, being promoted to the rest of it.
And that oath ends with the words, so help me God.
I I'm I'm astounded that that the new crowd coming in is going to take that out of there.
I'm astounded.
I did twice at the uh Democratic Convention doing the pledge, but listen, I want to remind people it's up on Amazon.com and Hannity.com.
It's Veterans Lament.
Is this the America our heroes fought for?
A phenomenal book.
Um, and you know what?
It raises a lot of significant questions, because I'll tell you, America, so many have sacrificed, bled, died, given their life, you know, um, and and the sacrifice is easy, it runs deep.
So we can have better lives and freer lives today.
Uh, Colonel North, appreciate you.
Safe home.
You're a great American.
Love the book.
It's on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
Thank you, sir.
Simplify, happy birthday.
Happy, happy Mary Court birthday yesterday, and a happy veteran's day today.
I love you, my friend.
Semplify.
All right, simplify.
Safe home.
All right, 800-94-1 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program?
We'll continue.
Hey there.
I'm Mary Catherine Hammond.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
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Uh Bill O'Reilly will be joining us.
But first, uh remember in the first debate, there was a moment.
Joe Biden promised not to declare victory until the election is independently certified.
Vice President Biden, final question for you.
Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted?
And will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?
Yes.
Oh, well, forget that promise on his part.
Anyway, all things Bill O'Reilly at Bill O'Reilly.com, uh including his uh well now fifteen in his killing series, Killing Crazy Horse.
Uh the the country's gone crazy.
And um uh it's great to have you back.
I'm dying to get your thoughts on on this mess we find ourselves in.
Uh unbelievable.
Uh it is disturbing.
Um I don't know if it's unbelievable because I was expecting chaos, but it's very disturbing.
So that's a good point.
You know what?
We all knew this was coming.
Great point.
I mean, we uh those of us who pay attention knew.
That's true.
Both sides, both Republicans and Democrats are setting themselves up to do whatever they had to do to win.
And it's pretty disturbing.
So as you know, I'm a simple man, and and you have defined that uh to your audience, so I keep things simple.
First of all, in the sound cut you just played from Biden, uh the keyword there was independent.
Joe Biden believes, or so he would say that the press is independent.
Therefore, they've certified that he's the president elect, so he's okay.
That's what he would do.
Now we all know the press is not independent, and um, you know, I'm gonna get into that pretty serious tomorrow on Bill O'Reilly.com.
But for today, the only chance, and I mean the only chance that Donald Trump has to retain the presidency is if the Supreme Court steps in and says any votes in Pennsylvania cast after the polls closed on November third are invalid.
Because that's the state law that was overridden by Pennsylvania judges, which is against the Constitution.
Judges cannot override or change laws.
Well, one add one thing, though.
This is also the governor's uh desire as well.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
The body that makes laws, both federally and state.
Correct.
Is the legislature.
And you can't a judge, a governor, uh a rock star, nobody can step in and say, ah, change the law.
Now, Alito, very, very important ruling, ordered Pennsylvania to set aside every single vote that was received after the polls closed on November 3rd.
He did that because he knows if the case is accepted by the court, a big F that that's what will happen.
All of those votes will be scrutinized and possibly thrown out.
If the Supreme Court ruled that, Donald Trump would win because he was ahead in Pennsylvania when the polls closed by about 600,000 votes.
He lost by 45,000.
So that's the only way that Donald Trump can retain the presidency from the simple man.
Is he gonna get there?
I think you should try like hell.
I would if I were him.
You would, right?
Uh Bill O'Reilly, when would you ever back away from a fight for crying out loud about and when would I back away from one?
Uh but I actually I I do disagree with you a little bit.
I mean, I am very, very interested.
You know there was this this Dominion software issue in Michigan, and the 6,000 vote flip that took place there was used in over 40 of the 80 counties in in Michigan, but also in 28 states, as John Solomon reported.
And, you know, I I'm just finding um I'm um it's a little early, but I'm waiting and we're watching and we're investigating, and it's some very intriguing information that I think might be coming out.
I can't say for sure.
Um, but certainly the the president has the right to do it.
I I think it's gonna be interesting to see one of the things that changed.
I think there are a couple of other legal fronts that we could use here.
You you picked on one in Pennsylvania.
But you know, the law also says in every one of these states, the statutes are almost identical, that partisan observers have the right to watch the vote counting from start to finish.
We know that never happened.
That is part of the law.
Um what the remedy would be or whether a court would ever step into that mess is obviously, you know, something I can't venture a guess at.
But if the law's not followed, as is written, election laws are unfollowed.
To me, that's very problematic.
Your thoughts.
All right, it's not gonna get traction at the Supreme Court level ever.
I do believe that in Philadelphia and perhaps other places, but I know for certain in Philadelphia that the Democratic machine did not let Republicans watch the vote as they should have.
But the Democratic machine is gonna say, under oath, oh no, we we let them in, but we had COVID, we had this, we have that.
It's not enough.
In order for the Supreme Court to put a stay on this election, that means to stop the process, all right.
They you would have to have something so demonstrable, all right, that everybody could see.
You couldn't have two sides arguing out who did bad things.
You've got to have a smoking gun, as they say.
The Pennsylvania vote after the fact is that gun.
I'm not listening I want to see every legal vote counted.
You want that.
You know, it is amazing when we compare, you know, we are humanity.
I don't want that.
You don't want every legal vote counted.
I don't want Jake Tapper's vote counted.
Okay.
I'll put you down for for you you denying Jake Tapper, fake Jake, uh the right to vote.
Just him.
Just him.
Well, you're gonna let Humpty Dumpty voted.
You gotta let Humpty Dumpty vote.
That's pretty funny.
Um, I'll let Humpty.
I'll let him vote, but not Tapper, because Tapper is a phony.
He masquerades as a journalist.
Uh okay, we all know that.
All right.
Now, the plan is also something that's very interesting.
You could see the depth of planning.
If you remember the first COVID relief bill uh was held up in part because they wanted changes to election loss.
That was number one.
Number two, the dev the Georgia Democratic Party sued along with the Democratic National Senatorial Campaign Committee and the Congressional Campaign Committees all sued in Georgia for the right for people that wanted absentee ballots, that the application uh in other words, in let me set it up this way.
In Georgia, if you do in-state same-day voting, you have to present a voter ID.
And this goes to the heart of a lot of problems we have.
Just mailing out indiscriminately all these ballots all over the place lends itself to corruption in my view, and I don't think anybody could argue that.
But they have one software program that matches the signatures for day of voting.
What they were able to negotiate with the Secretary of State down in Georgia is another standard that the person that filled out the application and the person that filled out the ballot, as long as they mat those signatures would match, that would suffice at as a signature verification, unlike every other voter in Georgia that has to go through the other software system matching and authenticating the signature.
Now that seems to me like you might, it might be a long shot, have an equal justice issue there.
Thoughts.
Certainly the law says that all the votes must be tabulated in the same way.
That's what the law says.
That didn't happen this election.
We all know that.
You approving it both on radio and TV.
But it would take so long to adjudicate that, the courts are not going to hold up the transfer of power while they adjudicate it.
They may do it separately, but they're not going to hold up the election for that.
When now, for me, if we look at this in and put it in compartmentalize it into different boxes.
All right, you have this election here, 70, well, nearly 72 million, I guess we're coming up, Trump voters, that are 70 plus percent feel that this is total BS and that the chaos that Democrats wanted us, so they were able to sow.
Right.
Um now, if fundamentally, if we don't come up with a system that stops this this rampant and indiscriminate ballot mailing to people that are not even requesting ballots to people that are verifying our eligible voters, and we don't have voter ID laws changed, then this could happen.
This should happen on the state level in the states that have Republican majorities.
If we don't have it, Bill, I think Lindsey Graham is right, Republicans will never win a national election again.
Well, number one, no Republican states are being accused of massive fraud.
So we don't have a problem in the GOP run states.
Number two, the states cannot do this.
It has to be done by the Congress.
So the first thing that Mitch McConnell should do when the Senate comes back into session in January is introduce a bill called the United States election standards bill.
Let me let me just gently argue with you constitutionally, because the Constitution is very clear that it is the state legislatures.
That's that's where the law is made.
You don't overstep that.
You say in the bill, we, the Congress of the United States, acknowledge each state oversees the election.
That's in the Constitution.
However, here are the standards the states have to follow.
Because if you have a state like Nevada that clearly doesn't want to run an honest election, you have to take action against that.
You can't have rogue states saying, hey, we're not going to have an honest election.
We're just not going to do it.
Congress has to then step in.
Can't usurp the authority.
Can't impose standards for everyone on how to vote in a national election.
You see, when I I don't know.
Look, I'm I would go to Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution.
The pertinent part of that is each state shall appoint in such manner as the legislature thereof may direct a number of electors equal to the whole number of senators and representatives to which the state may be entitled in Congress.
In other words, the state legislators determine how to select their electors, but also the process under which elections are held.
You're saying that Congress can have national standards that they must apply and that would and you think it would pass.
But what if Nevada or any other state goes, we're going to let people vote twice.
We're gonna let every one of our people that's where you look for judicial remedy.
That's right.
But you if you have a standard that has been passed by Congress and signed by a president, then the judicial uh decision making becomes much easier.
And that's what should happen.
Yeah.
All right.
Bill O'Reilly, all things BillO'Reilly dot com.
Um, what do you think the impact is going to be long term to the country?
Well, that's an excellent question.
And I'm you have come to Yoda, Yoda O'Reilly.
Oh, come on.
Now I have to call you Yoda.
Simple man Yoda.
This is why you this is why it's it makes me laugh that you think you're a simple man when you're the most complicated man I know.
Yoda was a simple guy.
How much time do we have?
A minute.
Okay.
No, are we coming back for another minute after that?
Whatever you want, Bill, sure.
All right.
You want my vision.
I gotta give you my vision.
Okay.
So I'll do one minute on the Senate.
The Senate's gonna be 5248 Republican.
That makes Mitch McConnell the most powerful man in the country, because McConnell will decide what votes take place.
What laws are considered.
That's a good thing for traditional conservative Americans.
Biden, in my opinion, is not going to do very much.
And two years from now, the House will flip to the Republicans, effectively neutralizing him for the last two years.
Whereupon the Republicans will have a very good chance of taking the presidency and running Congress.
If Donald Trump runs again in four years, say if he if this worked, if he didn't get it, if that happened, the scenario you laid out, would he win?
Trump?
Yep.
I don't think the Republicans want him to run again.
Interesting.
All right.
Bill O'Reilly, all things Bill O'Reilly.com.
Thank you, sir.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800 941.
Sean, you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
So we got reports yesterday that if you remember Project Veritas, James O'Keefe talked to a Pennsylvania United States postal worker.
This is the second one he talked to, uh whistleblower.
Guy gave his name, his name was Richard Hopkins, and telling his story about backdating ballots, etc.
etc.
And allegations of ballot tampering.
Okay.
Then I'm reading article after article yesterday.
No, he recanted his story.
Now he's saying, no, I did not recant my story.
Listen.
Mayor to say that I did not recant my statements.
That did not happen.
That's not what happened.
And you will find out tomorrow.
And I would like that the Washington Post recant their wonderful little article that they decided to throw out there out of random.
I mean, you'd think, what?
Okay.
They followed up, James O'Keefe talking again to Richard Hopkins about what happened when he talked to the feds.
How are you feeling right now?
I'm kind of pissed.
I feel like I just got played.
And I heard him say to the supervisor that they messed up yesterday.
That they and I was so I was like, oh, what did they mess up on?
And uh he told the uh supervisor that um they had uh postmarked one of the ballots for the fourth instead of the third, because they were supposed to hit uh put them for the third.
Let me let me make good on that promise, right?
Okay, this storm is getting crazy, right?
It's out of a lot of people's control.
And so the reason they called me in is to try to harness that storm.
Try to reel it back in before it gets really crazy.
Because we have senators involved, we have the Department of Justice involved, we have lawyers teams styling the whole of me.
I I I'm not well I am actually I am trying to twist you a little bit because in that, believe it or not, your mind will kick in.
Um we like to control our mind, and when we do that, we can convince ourselves of a memory.
But when you're under a little bit of stress, which is what I'm doing to you purposely, um, your mind can be a little bit clearer.
Wow, pretty powerful.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
So there is a Pennsylvania senator.
Uh his name is Doug Mastriano, and he's with the 33rd district.
And he actually came out with a a pretty blistering op-ed about how, quote, the integrity of the election process lies at the heart of any republic.
And he posted this, I believe it was yesterday, and he is citing a Third Circuit Court of Appeals opinion regarding one of the most corrupt and unabashed election scandals in Pennsylvania history.
It's called a Mark versus V Stinson case from 1994.
And the opinion, he goes on, the people, the ultimate source of governmental power, delegate to their elected representatives the authority to take measures which affect their welfare in a multitude of important ways.
When a representative exercises that authority under circumstances where the electors have no assurance that he or she was the choice of the plurality of electors, the legitimacy of the governmental actions taken is suspect.
Wow, sounds a lot like this election.
Anyway, um Senator uh Doug Mastriano is with us, sir.
How are you?
Sean, thanks for having me on.
I can't believe this is happening in Pennsylvania, and especially Philadelphia, where it all began at 776, and it needs to stop.
Well, let's go through it.
I mean, first of all, just this whole incident, okay.
You have a postal service worker.
Now I thought Democrats after Ukraine, they loved even hearsay whistleblowers that weren't whistleblower whistleblowers, right?
So, okay.
Now all of a sudden you get whistleblowers, and then the whistleblowers go in and they get questioned and what they get pressured into saying things and then the they I guess leak to the media and then the media reports oh he recanted and he said I didn't recant.
What is your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I'm you know, I just I retired from the Army three years ago after 30 uh years in service, and for this to come out on Veterans Day when so many of us put our lives on the line to see we have a corrupt federal system here that that's gaming the system that's playing us.
When you when you do an interrogation, this is a sort of interrogation they put the guy through with it.
They're not interested in facts, they're interested in uh obviously bullying this this witness here because it's not playing to the narrative.
And so what do we do?
I mean, in Pennsylvania, Sean, we got a governor who's acting with mere tyrannical powers with no transparency or accountability.
I got an attorney general with his thumbs on the scale.
The night before the election, he said Biden has it all but once.
You know, what the heck is going on?
I got a secretary of state who's a political hat who's unfit for office.
I was a no-under confirmation because she could not tell me how she's gonna make elections in Pennsylvania more secure than what I saw in Afghanistan, and then a Supreme Court that rewrites law.
I mean, it's just out of control.
And so we need another four years for President Trump because the swap has been exposed, but it has to be completely drained, and we need four more years to do that.
God help us, otherwise we'll we will lose our republic.
Also joining us from the great state of Pennsylvania, Representative Stephanie uh borrowitz, uh welcome uh to the uh program, representative.
Thank you for being with us.
Uh first of all, I know you're thank you for having me.
Uh I know you you read the uh the the op-ed of your colleague, you your take on all that's gone on in Pennsylvania and your thoughts on it.
Yeah, I mean i exactly what the senator said is happening before our eyes.
This postal worker, um, what's taking place, um it's just it's it's clear, it's evident to the people.
I'm getting hundreds and hundreds of emails coming in, which I'm very excited about.
Um, that the people are speaking up and standing up and saying, hey, this is this was fraudulent.
Um our votes need to matter, and we'll never have another fair and free election again, Sean, if we continue down this path.
And so it's this is it.
The Republic is at stake.
Um so there is some good news in the PA State House that we are gonna have a investigation and hearing into the election process.
So that came out yesterday in a press conference, so that's a little step in the right direction, Sean.
Well, I agree.
I mean, obviously, you know, that court decision is now before the Supreme Court.
That's the pending case.
I think it's a very strong case, as a matter of fact.
But ultimately, constitutionally, uh, it is there's no ambiguity here.
The power lies with you, state representatives, you guys get to decide the law of the great state of Pennsylvania, it's not Sean Hannity, and by the way, it's not uh Joe Biden, and it's not the media, uh, Senator uh Mastriano.
Yeah, I agree.
And we need to stand up.
This is our time.
Otherwise, if we're not going to do our part, why even bother have s bother having senators' representatives there?
Because this is a constitutional fight and the very republic at stake.
And if this is happening in Philadelphia, once again where it began, it could end there.
So look, I I I agree a hundred percent.
You know, it needs to be a free and fair and open election.
Each one single vote per person counts.
If there's shenanigans or mischief, people need to go to jail.
The reason why this has gotten so out of control, because there has been no account no or no or little accountability.
Yeah, we did have someone throwing in jail uh in uh May of this year in Philadelphia for fraud and abuse of the election code.
But this a whole generation of people are known in Philadelphia for being behind these kind of shenanigans.
I have hope in the 1994 precedent, of course, that you mentioned, Sean, uh, between Marx and Stinson were an entire result of a statewide uh Senate race was thrown out and given to the Republicans because the Democrats cannot help themselves and cheating.
Now, look, this is a very Democrat area.
They cannot help themselves, but it was significant because since this the court ruled against the Democrats in election, uh the Republicans have held the the Senate of Pennsylvania ever since 1994.
So that was a significant move.
And with that precedent, I'm prayerful and hopeful the Supreme Court will come in on our side, but the legislator we need to do our part.
The breaking news is, of course, is that the Pennsylvania Senate will be joining together, and that announcement will be coming uh shortly with the House in pursuing an active and aggressive investigation trying to ascertain the truth.
Representative Borowitz, the state law of Pennsylvania is clear.
I'll cite it for you if you like in the very statute, but you know what it says that partisan observers are allowed to watch the counting of the ballots from start to finish, absentee mail in and every other way.
Did that happen in your state or not?
Yes, many reports of that, that people were not allowed in to uh be poll watchers and kept out.
And it once again that's illegal.
So hopefully in this investigation, um, you know, we can have people come in and testify to that as postal worker, that would be great if he can call our speaker of the house and the Senate and let him know.
I mean, the more the better, Sean, um, for the investigation that's gonna take place here shortly.
Well, I mean, all right, so where do you see you're now speaking to all of your colleagues and Representative Borowitz, I'll start with you, then we'll go back to the Senator.
You know, w where are your Republican colleagues on this both short term and long term?
By long term I mean and I think this is very critical is that if we have this in in other states and all the the chaos we see in swing states interestingly enough except for Ohio and and Florida if the chaos is allowed to continue mass ballot mailings go out if there's no signature verification process that people can trust if there's no if laws are not even respected in terms of the right to watch the counting you can make allowances for social distancing.
You know how do you fix this long term and short term?
How do you see this going down?
Well, we need strong and courageous legislators.
And, you know, we can't have cowards in these times.
So we need clear leadership and people willing to do and make the tough calls.
And so, you know, a lot of times, I know the term rhinos out there, you know, a lot of times it is hard.
But I have to say I joined together with about 30 other legislators, and we held the line.
And Congressman Perry was kind of helping us with that.
And he said, you know, hold the line, patriots.
And so he just encouraged us and we did a press conference and it kind of um you know made us head down the path of having an investigation and auditing this election process.
So sometimes it just takes standing up it takes courageous men and women and so we need that we I heard in the con in Congress we got 10 strong pro-life women uh that are going to be in there so I think that the the tide is turning Sean and and we're not backing down and true patriots are running for office.
So it's important.
I think I think the American people are so ticked off and who can blame them watching this shift show every day.
Senator Mastriano long term short term so Sean I'm sick of politics and politicians.
We're a co-equal branch of the government we need to start acting like it we've been pushed out for eight months with the uh Governor Wolf Supreme emergency powers under COVID.
But I don't I don't need to press you here but will your fellow Republicans you have a majority in both houses in Pennsylvania will they join with you and Representative Borowitz?
Please pray that they do I'm I'm engaging them.
I'm trying to get them on board here we have probably 5050 that are willing to step out like this and be courageous.
This is our time if we don't do our part now it's over it's done.
That doesn't sound very reassuring I'm not trying to be pessimistic here but it sounds like a lot of Republicans are going to go running from the hills in Pennsylvania.
You know I so obviously we work closely with the Lithuanians or partner state of Pennsylvania and this this tough Lithuanians they fought Russia during the Cold War for 10 years and they said you Americans need more courage.
The General Assembly we need more courage we need to act like we're co equal branches and stop deferring to the governor.
I don't even know why we defer to him.
We should act as an independent branch of the government which we are and be bold and courageous.
Now look I have a I do have a large group of colleagues that are standing with me and so we're gonna push forward irregardless of what our leadership says or says we can't do we're gonna do the right thing regardless.
I'm I'm a voice of the people I put my life on a line as all the veterans have almost my entire adult life and I'm not gonna watch a republic whittle away because a few politicians are afraid to do their job.
What about the Secretary of State, the lieutenant governor uh and governor they all hate President Trump Representative Borowitz uh I I think one of them said well the there's no dignity you can't say the word president before the word Trump.
I think it was the Secretary of State.
Yep.
Yeah I mean it they had clear tweets put out uh beforehand their um their hate towards President Trump and so this should be obvious to to us of what they were trying to do in their intent.
Josh Apiro every single person uh we added states uh we added seats Sean in the state house uh Republicans did but yet President Trump lost we run we've won two state row office um elections at the state level uh but yet President Trump lost I mean there's just something that doesn't add up there.
So you don't trust the result.
You don't believe the result You know I uh from the evidence and what we're seeing we don't have the evidence and proof yet let's so let's go through this investigation and see and have truth revealed and pray that truth is revealed and it's clear and evident that there was fraudulent behavior in mishandling and conduct in our election process period and and we have to find that truth through the state legislature.
You sent a letter Senator to the Secretary of State and you said it's with deep regret I write this letter demanding your immediate resignation have you heard back from the uh Secretary of State?
Yeah absolute crickets just like when I asked her four times twice in person twice on Zoom why are election after elections that I oversaw in Afghanistan more safe and secure than Pennsylvania and what are you going to do to fix it?
And as a result of her inept response and no plan or strategy saved our elections and as evidence that she's a political actor.
She needs to resign.
She's unfit for office.
This is not a political game for me.
This is about life and death here in Pennsylvania.
And what happens in Pennsylvania will affect the entire country.
So of course he's not going to respond, and she's not going to go.
But I, you know what?
She needs to be censured because her attitude towards the president was such disdain as she had towards me.
You know, imagine had a senator or a secretary of state giving such a tweet about a President Obama.
Could you imagine the outrage and the palpitations of the left?
It'd be intolerable.
Double standard is everywhere.
All right, we're going to keep following what you're both doing.
Senator Maastriano, thank you.
And Representative Borowicz, thank you.
Pennsylvania, uh 800-941 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
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