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You are the ultimate jury, and the events unfolding all weekend long, and even as we speak now in some cities, like uh one city of Maryland right now is having uh protests going on.
Um it is mind-numbing to me, you know, we we spent a lot of time talking about what happened to George Floyd and all the things that went wrong and how that should never, ever, ever, ever, ever happen.
Seven minutes, 55 seconds, knee on a neck, it pinned to the pavement.
You can't do it.
It's a death sentence.
Now, preliminary report didn't die by asphyxiation.
Our eyes do not deceive us in terms of the inappropriateness, the absolute lack of just any simple basic fundamental police training to go after the most vulnerable part of one person's body.
You know, you if you go for somebody's neck, you're you're literally go it's a danger zone.
If it's a self-defense move and your life is in jeopardy, that's a whole different story.
And by the way, not for eight plus minutes.
Um, so we see what's going on around the country on the one hand, and stores robbed and looted and fires set and fights breaking out and people attacked.
We know that these other outside agitator groups occupy Wall Street, Antifa, or Antifa, as other people like to pronounce it, uh, up to their eyeballs involved in all of this.
Oh, you even have Joe Biden's people on the radical left working to try and get the anarchists out of jail.
Uh why?
So they can continue to lead more of these protests?
And what are we seeing in the aftermath of this?
We're seeing the wreckage and the carnage left behind and and dreams literally going up in fire and smoke and anarchy emerging, and I I have never seen such a pathetic, frankly, it is it is borderline criminal in terms of the lack of urgent response by states and local mayors and cities.
You know, we got you get the whole list of all these cities, all these areas where all this is happening.
And I'm like, here we go again.
You know, I what?
Donald Trump now can't win for losing because if Donald Trump races in with the National Guard, which by the way, they he has to be asked uh usually to send them in, and they did last night with great effect.
It was a lot better last night in Minneapolis than it had been in in prior nights.
Uh Andy McCarthy wrote a good piece.
The president does have at his available uh the ability under the Constitution, United States guarantees every state a Republican form of government protection against invasion on request of state government protection from domestic violence and furtherance of this provision.
Now, what has happened is unacceptable.
Order has to come back.
And it's it in some places it's probably now because they let it go so far and they didn't nip it in the bud, it's it's now going to probably be that much more of a heavy lift.
Uh look, everybody has spoken out.
There's there's no um, as I said towards the end of last week, there's no disagreement here.
You know, the president was the first to act by saying uh he wants to expedite the investigation that justice will be served, and he he literally ordered the FBI, the Department of Justice, the civil rights division within the Department of Justice to work in conjunction with local law author uh law enforcement.
You had a record speed in terms of firing the officers, number one, firing them, not suspending them first for an inquiry.
Nope, they got fired.
And then the arrest of the officer that put the knee on George Floyd's neck.
I mean, and and I everybody gets it.
We all watched in horror.
Uh there is a anger that is built viewing the seven-minute 55-second tape, uh, and then subsequent tape showing no resistance.
Uh I know there's a third tape out that shows there might have been some conflict on the other side of the car.
Let's let's assume that happened.
I I'm not necessarily agreeing with that yet.
I haven't seen it.
But if there was, if the person's handcuffed, the person is either laid down, body up, and you don't put their your knee on their neck for any length of time, never mind unless it is that fierce a life and death struggle.
That might be a time.
It's your only option.
But that was not the case here.
You had the guy's knee pinning his head to the pavement for that extended period of time, the neck being the most vulnerable part of the human anatomy.
And as the president said, it is a grave tragedy that never should have happened.
And Americans all over the country.
You know, is 50-50 disagrees on everything.
Everyone's in full agreement here.
That, you know, we watch the video with anger and grief, but that does not justify what's going on now.
And what's going on now has nothing to do with the memory of George Floyd.
What is going on now is, and maybe well, maybe for some people, they're sincere in their protesting.
But I'm talking about those burning and looting and breaking and setting ablaze cities all across the country.
You got Minneapolis, you got New York City.
You got Philadelphia, you got Atlanta, Chicago, LA, Washington, D.C., Baltimore, Maryland, Louisville, Kentucky, Boston, Indianapolis, San Francisco.
You know, by the way, almost all, there are some exceptions, have been run for decades by Democratic governors and by Democratic mayors, etc.
And unfortunately, the their lack of understanding or appetite, the idea that you're going to pull back, dispersing or crowd when you speak to professionals, which I have interviewed my whole life, it is not fun work.
It never is.
Nobody wants to be in conflict with fellow citizens ever if you're on the police department.
The 99% that want to protect and serve their communities and are willing to put their lives on the line every day to do it.
It's a dangerous job.
If you have crowds forming, yep, you can use tear gas.
You have crowds forming, yep, you can use pepper spray.
They even have more powerful pepper sprays that kind of disperse in a in larger areas.
That disperses the crowds.
You have to create a perimeter and you got to enforce the perimeter.
Once the National Guard went in, things got a little better last night, and hopefully we'll start now happening all around the rest of the country.
It's not going to be easy to start this, uh stop this after it's started, especially when you have those that are organizing that are agitating themselves.
But at the end of the day, it looks like you know the insurrect insurrection act uh came back around in 1807.
That empowers a president to suppress in any state any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.
I think Andy McCarthy spelled it out as well as anybody.
After Hurricane Katrina, the insurrection act was beefed up to enable presidents to respond to natural disasters and public health emergencies.
But usually the process starts with state governors and mayors requesting the help of the National Guard.
Um you run into problems otherwise beyond the insurrection act with the Posse Comitada statues, etc.
We're not dealing with that here.
This is to restore order.
This is to protect the lives of innocent people.
These protests, you know, are putting innocent people's lives in danger.
That's it.
They have to be protected, or else there is that that is utter anarchy beyond that.
The idea that people's livelihoods are being burned before our eyes and they do nothing.
I never thought I'd see a police precinct burned down right in front of our eyes, and oh, the police just left and literally creating the largest perimeters possible, meaning that all that area within the perimeter now is vulnerable.
If you're gonna set up a curfew to stop the violence, you gotta set it and you gotta stick to it, and then you gotta enforce it.
And I'm not saying that that's an easy job, but tear gas, these are all traditional methods that have been used when these situations arise.
Pepper spray, it can be used.
Is it ideal?
No.
And by the way, if you're in these areas, stay home.
You don't want to be a part of this.
Um, So those are the options.
The president got on a call earlier today with governors from around the country.
And he just he tore them up for all the right reasons and stated that you know they're not doing their jobs.
If you're weak, and most of you have been weak, he's quoted as saying.
Now, a lot of the audio is, you know, beginning to leak to the press, and they're sharing with social media.
Second person on the call says uh Trump's fool comment was more of a warning saying if governors didn't take action on the protesters, they'd look like fools.
He urged them, they've got to be in charge, they've got to dominate.
We have all the men and women that you need, he said, but people aren't calling them up, and you have to call them up.
You have to the governors have the ability to do it, and some of them are not doing it.
And why they're not doing it, I is it is beyond any understanding that I have in my mind.
And again, we go.
This is now mostly you're dealing with blue states.
Now, you could talk about socioeconomic underlying factors also over years and years and years of failure and a failure of our educational system.
And in, for example, many large metropolitan areas run by big governors, unholy alliance.
I've said it for years with these governors, teachers, unions, etc.
And they they resist the mysterious resistance on fixing schools.
Yet we spend per capita more than any other country, industrialized country on the face of the earth with the worst results.
We're not serving any child in America or all children of God.
We're not serving them by not bringing the best out of them.
Education, aducarate, Latin to bring forth from within when you go into schools that have they're not controlling the violence.
I mean, that's how bad it gets in in the lives of some people in some inner cities.
You know, I've I've always wondered how is it we never ever have gotten control of all of the shootings that take place in this in the city of Chicago?
Democratic mayors, Democratic governors.
They haven't done a thing to stop the violence in Chicago, and you have record weekend after record weekend of violence in Chicago.
Why don't they fix it?
These that's part of our American family.
We have a duty to protect them.
And it rarely even gets discussed.
I think I'm the only person ever to run the names of all the people that have been shot and killed and scroll them in Chicago on television.
You know, there's failures at a spectacular, it's an epic fail.
Rudy Giuliani was on the show Friday night.
Couldn't be more clear.
First person throws a rock, arrested.
Second person, arrested, third person, usually doesn't throw it because he knows or she knows they're gonna be arrested.
And you look, the White House, I know we had Secret Service agents injured.
If there is a breach at the White House, people there will die.
There won't be any lives saved.
If there is any type of serious, significant breach onto the White House property, they're not gonna have a chance to get inside any room at the White House.
So I urge people in DC, those of you that are in the faith community, those of you that have any leadership position, get out among the crowd and try and encourage people to stop the violence.
Protest all you want, but protest peacefully.
That's not what we're seeing.
And the longer you don't stop it, the worst it's gonna get.
And it's spreading like a cancer.
It's like a fire that's now spun out of control.
Uh oh, but you have Joe Biden staff donating to group to pay bells to uh get some of the anarchists out of jail.
Okay, that's that's always my strategy.
Uh, but when you have society literally, and people at risk and businesses at risk, livelihoods for families at risk post-corona, you gotta protect the businesses, protect lives, protect the people of every city and the innocent people in these cities and protect the innocent businesses from being burned to the ground.
And how you're not prepared for this is inexplicable to me.
It is it should be part of every preparation of every Single solitary police force.
And I will say this there's not enough training for these police officers.
They get trained in the use of the firearm.
Well, you don't want that as your one option.
You want that as the last only option.
You had no other choice option.
As we roll along 800 941, Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Yeah, the Biden staff, Joe Biden, the ever forgetful one donating to a group that pays bail for those that have been put in jail.
Not sure what Van Jones is forget the KKK.
It's the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter, America should fear.
Okay.
He says a lot of strange things.
Minnesota mayor is giving mass to crowding rioters after warning in-person worship that that would be a public health disaster.
Okay.
And if you're going to put up or have some time of curfew, you might want to start doing something like enforcing it and having a plan to enforce it.
And if you can't do it alone, call in the assistance that the president now has been offering for days and days and days.
It makes no sense at all.
We have protesters.
I don't know if you saw what happened to the Lincoln Memorial, World War II Memorial, other national monuments.
We saw the St. John's Church and what happened there, which is beyond sad.
A lot of different angles on this, but this is getting controlling a crowd, dispersing a crowd, is not that difficult.
And if you need manpower, it's being offered to you.
Take it.
I would take it, protect the perimeter, protect innocent people, even protect the protesters from themselves in many ways.
That is how you that is how you deal when these moments happen.
It's not the first time.
Well, sadly, I'd guess be the last time either this happens.
You do it for all the right reasons, but you gotta get on top of it as quickly as possible.
It's not brain surgery.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
Now I know there was a preliminary uh autopsy that said, and nothing is official, that uh George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation, but uh our friend, friend of the program, Dr. uh Baden, Michael Baden, uh, was hired for the family.
Now George Floyd's family has released the independent autopsy, showing that death was caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure.
Oh, in that sense, Hannity was right again.
I told you, and all these people telling me that I was wrong, but it's I I'm telling you, you're dealing with the most sensitive part of the human anatomy.
If you if you Google, if you want martial artist, uh neck strikes, it is it is a very, very effective um self-defense method.
In other words, if you hit the carotid and you can just stop the flow of blood, just one quick shot.
Doesn't even have to be full-on force.
But if you hit one full shot and you hit the right area, targeted strike, notice the emphasis on the word targeted.
A person will drop to their knees.
And they might try standing up and fall down again because it goes directly to the blood flow right into the brain.
And that's only a half a second uh uh or you know, one second stop of blood flow, or maybe two seconds, and that's it.
If you do what is called a rear-naked choke, I know for those of you that don't love MMA like I do or train in martial arts, I'm I'm a student of the arts.
Everyone, well, he's a saying he's an expert.
I'm not I'm this it's gonna take the rest of my life to learn all I want to learn about uh the arts uh that I'm studying.
If you're interested, Krab Maga Kempo, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing, situational street fighting, sticks, blades, firearms.
I do it all.
It's the way I work out because I don't really like to walk on a treadmill or run on a treadmill.
I get bored stiff.
Anyway, so uh it was Dr. Michael Baden who did the autopsy.
He was hired by Floyd's family, and concluding that the death was caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain, which is what I was saying in my mind.
You could see it happening.
You know, I I I always say the presumption of innocence.
I always say Not guilty, innocent until proven guilty.
That always holds.
And even in this case, this officer, if there are other officers eventually that are indicted in this, they deserve their day in court.
But our eyes still don't lie to us.
You have to see what you see here.
There's no ambiguity in that seven minute 55 seconds of tape that they actually had.
I'll tell you the worst part.
Most people have not really looked to the very end.
Linda, did you look at the end?
By that point, he's unconscious.
In my in my opinion, one person's opinion, non-medical, just from the video.
I think by that point he was gone.
Yeah, no, I think it's I think it's more than evident.
I mean, you know, if we look at the video, it's it's clear that we lost him at that point and they continued to do what they were doing.
Notice when they put him on the gurney, they're cradling this guy's head.
Because his neck it looks like if they if they didn't cradle it independently, would have like dropped in a way that would have been, you know, it would have shown you the amount of damage here.
Uh, but anyway, Michael Bodden, one of two doctors hired by the Floyd family to conduct this independent review uh after prosecutors' preliminary report on the autopsy concluded the combined effects of being restrained, potential intoxicants,
and Floyd's system and his underlying health issues, heart disease, likely contributed to the death, but the video of the officer on Mr. Floyd's neck for eight solid minutes before the death uh ever we our eyes don't lie to us.
I mean, everyone's saying to me, well, Hannity, you're always the guy we count on that will wait.
I I'm still that guy.
That's why we were right in Ferguson.
We were right in Florida, we were right in Baltimore, we were right with Cambridge, we were right with UVA, we were right with Duke LaCross.
I was right early in my career with Richard Jewell.
I don't rush the judgment.
Eight solid straight minutes of videotape.
There's nothing you can tell me that's going to change my mind or what my eyes are showing me with the knowledge that I have accumulated, especially in the last seven years, as it relates to self-defense and the arts, martial arts in particular.
Um the question is, okay, we've got to now protect these cities.
That's where we are at this point.
This guy's been arrested, charged murder in the third degree of manslaughter.
What charges will be brought up?
If any on the others yet to be determined, my guess is there probably will be other people charged here.
Um not sure why.
Uh Joe Biden is is apparently reaching out to some of the people that have been jailed.
His staff raising money for the rioters, not sure why.
Governor Cuomo in New York complaining the NYPD overreacted after these protests started in in New York City, as we've also been watching.
You know, we're watching again, not all, but the majority of these cities, democratic run cities, democratic governors.
And they they don't seem to understand that it on any level, they just don't seem to they have they're absolutely useless in moments of any type of crisis, and it's it's frustrating.
Um, anyway, so now you have Cuomo and de Blasio fighting it out again, saying that the NYPD and their misconduct that look, when you have a situation where there's a direct confrontation with police, and police pushback, or police use pepper spray, or if there isn't a res uh an arrest, especially one where someone is resisting, all of it now is going to be on videotape.
As a matter of fact, the time is long come and gone, and we've said this for years for cops to wear a cam at all times.
This way we can get a more accurate, because and and it maybe through no fault of people's own.
In the midst of any type of high tension event, you might not remember things clearly.
It's for everybody's best interest to make this mandatory.
I'm sorry, Linda, you're speaking in my ear.
What?
Okay, look at my text.
I will stop what I'm doing and I will look at my text.
Hang on.
You told me not to talk in your ears, so I texted you.
All right, you got the point.
We'll talk later.
Um, all right, De Blasio's daughter, Comrade de Blasio, you know, he was busy pretending to be outraged over what happened this weekend.
Uh, his 25 year old daughter uh apparently he's claiming and insisting was peacefully protesting, not doing anything that would provoke a negative response.
Okay, that's what they're saying.
We'll see in the end how that ends ends up.
You have also the targeting of St. John's Church.
Wow.
How many presidents have gone to that one church?
Anti-cop rioters target St. Pat St. Patrick's Cathedral, you know, writing the F word, the F-word in red letters on an adjacent wall.
BLM, Black Lives Matter, along with NYPDK in red letters and no justice, no peace.
Uh the Attorney General announcing and uh Antifa, or the way the media likes to say Antifa, uh, that they are uh having a full-fledged investigation into that, the individuals associated, the the leaders in all of this.
Um you had one Ivy League law professor arrested for attempting to firebomb a police car.
Wow.
Ivy League uh educated lawyer, member of the Brooklyn Community Board was among those arrested for hurling a Molotov cocktail at an NYPD vehicle.
Uh oh, then you got uh Keith Ellison is out there.
Pictures of him supporting Antifa um leading a, you know, now leading the prosecution in the murder case of George Floyd.
Remember, he's the attorney general in Minnesota, not somebody I trust.
And his voice, he him and his son have both voiced support for Antifa.
Okay, I would say he needs to recuse himself.
George Floyd's family arranging for this autopsy.
Uh there is some new evidence.
This was in the New York Post that emerged over the weekend showing the officers apparently struggling to control George Floyd in the back of the patrol car in the moments before he was pinned on the pavement.
Okay, let's assume that is what the right interpretation of it is.
I haven't seen it myself yet.
But if that is it, at that moment, once somebody's not resisting, he wasn't resisting for most of the eight minutes.
That's it.
The fight is over.
It's done.
And they're handcuffed.
And he was handcuffed.
All right, this is uh Michael Bodden speaking here.
Let's listen in.
Parts at the scene.
Much time in most homicide cases is uh relates to reconstructing the scene.
Detectives going out and interviewing people, all kinds of uh forensic science uh uh work picking up trace evidence.
In this instance, the video tells you what the scene is.
The video is real.
The multiple videos are real.
And those multiple videos show pressure that can cause death, and his calling out like Eric Gardner, but also including calling out for his mother, who had been dead for three years.
None of this caused a release of the pressure.
And that is uh very disturbing.
Now, what was the question?
Thank you.
There were rough abrasions around the left eye and a left cheek, and a little bit in the front of the uh on the nose and mouth areas that are due, as we can see in the video, to the left side of his face being rubbed against the pavement while the left knee of the officer is squeezing down on the left side of the neck,
which would be the neck is a small area with many vital organs, arteries, veins, nerves, and the windpipe, all of which are compressed with the knee uh uh activity as seen on the video.
So that the abrasions on the side of the neck and the nose and would also indicate that a uh a component of the interference with breathing uh could be uh it was also some pressures that were placed on the nose and mouth.
And uh these are also very painful kinds of scrape marks.
There was also severe scrape marks on the back of his left shoulder, which is part of the activity that was uh uh causing him uh to uh rub against his knit the officer's knee as well as the face being on the ground.
And that what that those occurred while he was uh still alive and breathing.
And is that evidence of pressure?
That is evidence of severe pressure on the face, large areas of of uh scraping abrasions on the face, in particular, left side of the face, which is evidence of his face being rubbed severely against the ground.
Thank you, Colonel Luminaries.
What Dr. Baden said is also very important for the prior question of the criminal charges, because what was happening on that video um is is extremely important because when when when the brave young man that you're gonna hear from tomorrow was trying to uh attempt life-saving um statements to the police officers,
or when George Floyd was calling out that he can't breathe or for his mother, you could see, at least from one of the angles, the the first angle that was released, that Officer Chauvin was readjusting his knee in order to further compress that tight area of the neck.
That is an expression of knowledge.
That taunt of readjusting his knee in order to further compress the airway and hold him down with that sustained pressure is evidence of criminal conduct.
Liz Navreto from the Star Tribune asks the doctors if your autopsy found any evidence of the heart disease or other underlying conditions.
For our stations along the Sean Hannity Show Network, we're going to stay with this.
Uh the family hired independent autopsy led by Dr. Michael Bodden, friend of the program.
He will be on Hannity tonight.
He may be calling into this program later in the show today.
Uh and let's go back to the press conference.
We will be dropping our usual break stations along the network.
Uh obviously make their own decisions.
continue.
The heart disease or other underlying conditions.
Dr. Bodden or Dr. Wilson.
As I've mentioned previously, um certain parts of the organs have been retained by the original pathologists.
In the sections that we have and in the specimens that we examine, there is no significant underlying disease of the heart.
The sections of the vessels that we examined were clear of atherosclerosis.
Um the sections that have been retained, we will examine once they can be available made available to us.
Thank you for clarifying that.
I'd just like to to add on in my coronavirus uh susceptible age group, that I wish I had the same coronary arteries that uh Mr. Floyd had that we saw at the autopsy.
Thank you for putting that in context for us, Dr. Baden.
Yamiche at PBS NewsHour asks, can the doctors determine at this time how long it took Mr. Floyd to die?
Yeah.
I counted, I counted the video from the time the video started, which was a few seconds apparently after uh uh Mr. Floyd was pushed on the ground and the uh knee put on the neck, counts about three minutes and fifty seconds between the time he's on the ground and the time he becomes motionless,
at a time when the uh uh uh passers by the persons, the the civilians who were watching and photographing, yelled out that he was dying, that he was lifeless, that he should be permitted To get up that he's that he's dying, that he's gonna be dead.
From the the moment uh three minutes and uh plus seconds, uh he was motionless, he had no evidence of breathing, of uh struggling, and remained that way for another four or five minutes with the knee on his neck until the EMS people arrived and found he had no pulse,
he had a cardiac arrest, they tried CPR, they tried uh shock to the heart, nothing worked, and he did not recover.
He in my opinion, he died, he was dead after about four or five minutes.
He was pronounced dead sometime later when he gets to a hospital.
A person's alive in this country until a proper physician pronoun, usually a physician, pronounces him dead, but he was he appears to be dead very before the EMT people get there, certainly.
And it's it's important to note the two M EMT.
I'm sorry.
It's important to note that the two EMT members once they got to the scene, they had Lucas Device working on an unresponsive postless mail.
They concluded in the ambulance, they performed post checks several times, finding none, and deliver one shock by their monitor.
The patient's condition did not change.
He remained unresponsive and postless, and that's why I said the amulants that we see arrive on the scene with George Wilson's hearse.
I'm sorry, the amulance that we see arrive on the scene was George Floyd's hearse.
Question from Andrew Tangle from the Wall Street Journal.
Uh do the medical examiner's results um differ in a professional opinion from the counter county medical examiner, or is that information you don't have yet?
Thank you.
At this time autopsy results will continue our coverage.
We view the actual preliminary report from the medical examiner who performed the autopsy.
We have seen accounts from the complaint.
Um based on that, yes, our findings do differ.
Some of the information I read from that complaint state that there was no evidence of traumatic asphyxia.
This is the point in which we do disagree that there is evidence in this case of mechanical or traumatic asphyxia.
Thank you, Dr. Wilson, for explaining that.
Next question.
Oh, Dr. Bobby.
I don't know if you see the question.
Okay.
If you could speak louder with the questions.
Reporting now.
We're continuing our coverage.
The autopsy results independent, conflicting with the initial autopsy reports released by the city.
Which makes this really bad.
And now that needs to be investigated.
Let's go back to the audio.
Thank you all.
We will continue to keep you informed as we continue to move forward to get in justice for George Floyd.
Thank you, and God bless, and let's remember to take a breath, America.
Let's take a breath for George.
Let's take a breath of peace.
Let's take a breath for justice, and let's take a breath to heal our country.
Thank you.
I want to get straight to some analysis.
All right.
That was the independent uh autopsy results.
That differs with the preliminary results that had been put out uh publicly by the city.
Well, we they have now some explaining to do as well.
I they did Linda, didn't I say to you earlier?
I said this does not make sense.
Not buying this.
You know, my eyes don't deceive me.
Uh you've been around me and Sensei enough to know where this is what we do every day, and you sit there and look at me like I'm a lunatic.
Um, but this is the type of stuff that we do every day.
And that amount of pressure, that's sustained period of time.
Baden, I kept saying, I can't believe he lived as long as he did with that amount of pressure and his head pinned to the ground.
Now, for those that have been saying, well, it didn't look like he's putting much pressure on.
Well, what about the abrasions on his face?
Well, it's because his face was pushed that hard into the pavement.
That's what I was saying.
All right, Clad's you with us hour two, Sean Hannity Show, 800 941 Sean Tollfrey telephone number, the president laying into weak governors for not doing their jobs.
And he's right because he's been offering help.
Finally sent the National Guard to Minnesota Minneapolis uh last night.
Things got dramatically better.
This is now within his jurisdiction, or he says I he will have to take over.
And he has the legal means to do that per the insurrection act, which allows a president, empowers a president to suppress in any state any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.
And that would be what we call his job.
Now we have the independent autopsy results, which we just played.
Uh part of it done by Dr. Michael Bodden, who's been a friend of this program for years.
He'll be on Hannity tonight.
He said he's going to try and call into the radio show, maybe within the next with this hour.
And if he does, uh we'll bring that to you.
Uh, but just the opposite of the initial findings, which I told you it was not going to come out that way.
Um, we also have on some other news.
Um, this tape has emerged of George Floyd himself.
And George Floyd is discovering young people from being involved in in violence, especially specifically gun violence.
Let's listen.
Our young generation is clearly lost, man.
Clearly lost, man.
Like, like, I don't even know what to say no more, man.
Like you Yos is just going around just buzzing guns in crowds.
He is getting killed.
You know, and it's clearly the generation after us, man.
That's so lost, man.
You know, man.
I came at Houston and the told me you're flooring that young truth, man, right there, because he could bust a gun.
I mean, I knew it was crazy.
They're in the my age and this here, man.
You know what I'm saying?
They condoning this, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
And like, hey, I thought young shooting them guns, go home and they knew shaking at night.
But they were short nobody because, you know, they ain't tough dead.
Hey, man, come on home, man.
One day it's gonna be you and God, you're going up or you're going down.
That was uh the words of George Floyd.
Uh here to uh help discuss, you know.
Now we're at a point.
This is justice is now working.
It's working in record time.
It is the investigation into other officers, potential charges with them.
Might be forthcoming.
Uh president led the way, calling for expedited invest an expedited investigation by the FBI, the DOJ, the DOJ Civil Rights Division, in conjunction with local law enforcement.
And within four days, the officer with the knee on the neck has been arrested and charged with third degree, I'm sorry, third degree murder and manslaughter charges.
Uh now the question is with all the rioting, all the risk to individuals' lives that comes with that, the lack of any preparation or plan by governors and mayors to do anything to protect people and property.
Uh, that is now at the phase we're at now.
Because when these stores are burned down and looted, many are not coming back.
And now you're altering forever the lives of people whose jobs are going to be lost, whose communities will no longer have access to uh services that they depend on.
Anyway, evangelist Dr. Alvita King is with us.
Uh as riots spread across the U.S., she said to heed the words of my uncle Martin Luther King Jr.
To end violence and racism.
Uh, our 2020 correspondent on the ground, personal friend, if I'm allowed to say, as are all these guests, uh, Dr. King as well, Lawrence Jones.
We call him LJ.
What's happening, LJ?
Good to see you.
Uh or hear you, Pastor Robert Jeffers.
Uh, he is part of uh a 14,000 member First Baptist Church in in Dallas.
I had the honor of being invited down there once.
I think I cursed at the pulpit.
Oops, I slipped.
Uh, author of Praying for America, uh, asking and encouraging people to spend 40 days asking God to do his will and to bless America.
Well, those are words we can uh listen to.
Uh uh Dr. King, it's great to have you back.
I've been watching you on TV pleading with people for calm.
Right now it's not working.
There's no police presence to protect innocent people and property.
Your thoughts.
Sean, and this is your sister Alvita to you and my brothers who are joining you, and you are just absolutely so right.
My uncle was nonviolent, even though he said that violence is a language of the unheard.
However, I encourage you to make your voices known, but do it non-violently.
See, they didn't even print the whole sentence when they quote Martin King Jr. there.
He was for nonviolent.
Sean, you know Atlanta, the city too busy to hate.
The Phoenix arises up out of the ashes.
Our mayor with mama bear on him and told them to go home.
And do you know what they did?
They dropped some of their anger and went home.
They actually did.
So even though you still see these rioters and looters, they're not protesters.
Rioters and looters out, those numbers are getting smaller.
And I thank the president for being tough.
You can be tough.
And you can do that and get your community back.
You still have compassion for the needy and those who need help.
But we have to be tough.
And we're one blood.
We all believe the same.
Martin Luther King Jr. said we may have come up on different ships, but we're in the same boat now.
So we have to.
I believe in one God, one creator of everybody and everything, right?
You know, as Joe, or as Joe Biden says God, yes.
Yes.
As Joe Biden says, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men, he adds women are created equal, endowed by the oh, the thing, you know, the thing.
Uh Joe, that's the creator of everything.
That God that created everybody.
Oh my goodness.
I know.
Can you believe it?
Uh all right.
Let me bring in LJ, uh, Lawrence Jones, our correspondent on the ground.
Yeah.
We have St. Lawrence all over this country.
And he spends a lot of time talking to the people that do make this country great all the time.
And you're watching this unfold as we all are.
And, you know, we made a call the other night.
We were going to send you into one of these areas.
Maybe not a good idea at this point.
Yeah, son.
And it's it's hard for me because I I'm so used to being in the thick of things and reporting on the ground.
I uh you know this.
One of the reasons why you send me out there is because I love people.
And I love hearing their concerns and trying to get to a solution.
And it's just heartbreaking to see a case that is so clear-cut to now have outside people trying to leverage it for their own gain.
And I'm talking about the anti for the bad actors.
You know, the president gave a speech the other day, and he said, I'm an ally of you guys on the ground.
I stand with you.
And I know the majority of you guys are peaceful.
He said that in a speech.
But these people that are on the ground, these Antifa people that I've seen for years, and how do you know this, LJ?
Because I go to all the protests.
I see the same people there.
I see them directing.
Uh, and there's a big machine behind these people that are on the ground.
Sean, I was watching a video earlier today.
One of my sources sent me, and you literally see one of the protesters tell the Antifa people to stop.
Stop.
You've got to get us killed.
And he looks back at her, a black woman, and says, they're gonna kill you anyway.
That is what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with people that have their own agenda, um, and they don't want justice.
They want their anarchy.
That's what they want.
Straight up anarchists in the book, and they want to accomplish that.
But it's also hard for me, Sean, because I do understand The peaceful protesters paying.
And it's not just about George Floyd.
It's about people like Tim Scott and me that have had our own experiences and simply just want justice.
Minalap Minneapolis has a history of corruption, Sean.
The fact that we had a autopsy report that was so disgusting, Sean.
We knew that wasn't the real story.
You said it on your program.
We knew when an independent autopsy came out that we were going to see a different tune.
You know, the current police chief who loves his law enforcement officers, who also loves his family, sued his own police department at one time.
So there's a track record, and they we gotta clean it up.
We gotta go.
The majority of officers, Sean, as I always say, go out there.
They do their job.
I've seen cops crying with families during this week, Sean, in Michigan and Flip Michigan, the sheriff Swanson is marching, put his baton down and said, I am with you.
I will march with you and still keep you safe.
Those are the cops I know.
Those are the ones that I remember, and those are the ones that we need to support.
The bad apples, we got to get them out of here.
The worst part of the preliminary report, and I didn't believe it.
I am uh I'll never forget an incident.
I don't think LJ will forget it either, Lawrence Jones.
Um, and he has two wonderful parents, and his mom happens to be a preacher, too.
Um, and we were in New Hampshire, and I gave what was the what was the thousand dollar challenge?
Was it five thousand dollar challenge?
Here we go.
Here we go.
No, no, no.
Well, but this is why I knew it was total BS.
And what we did I did a demonstration with my sensei called Pain Day, and then I said, Okay, how much did I offer you?
Do you remember?
It was like a thousand or so.
Right.
And I said, Okay, now you do it.
And what did you do?
I said, uh I oh, when I hit you, or when you say offered me.
No, you had a little density to your punch.
I took it easy.
Yeah, yeah.
You you you did eat the punch.
I did, but you didn't need you didn't want to go anywhere near your, but this is but you know the level of training I have.
You know the a targeted strike to the neck, Lawrence, is a death sentence for a sustained period of time.
Rear naked choke, I can drop you in 15 seconds.
If I if I strike, if it's a perfectly if it's a perfectly targeted strike, I can drop you with one strike because of the neck area being that sensitive.
Let me bring in, though, uh Pastor Jefferson.
Pastor, uh, you know, we gotta be together here.
This is where what, you know, the president ends his rallies, one glorious nation under God, one united American family.
We are all we are one united American family.
All races created by the same God, the book you believe and believe in, and uh Dr. King believes in and Lawrence Jones and his mom and dad believe it, and I believe it's the same book.
And it's the same God that creates us all.
That's right.
And look, uh, Sean, we've got to speak truth, and we can't be muzzled by political correctness, especially those of us who are faith leaders.
We need to say without apology, yes, God hates racism.
To hate a man because of the color of his skin is to hate the God who gave him the color of his skin.
But Sean, we have to say equally that God hates lawlessness.
The Bible says in 1 John 3 4, sin is lawlessness, period, and God hates what is happening in our cities.
I mean, you know our church, you've been here, we're in downtown Dallas.
We've been vandalized the last two nights by these rioters.
Police say 50% of those arrested have come from outside of Dallas.
We were just told they're gathering again outside uh to protest again.
God absolutely hates this, and it's time for men and women of God to stand up and tell the truth about this.
Well, I think we can all say Amen to that.
Dr. King, I heard you weighing in.
Absolutely.
Now, I I'm saying we're one human race.
We're not separate races.
We're separate ethnic communities.
We came from different parts of the world here to found America together.
And because of that, we have the ability to be brothers and sisters.
We must be nonviolent.
And all of us on this song, we are brothers, you and my brothers, I'm your sister.
We are in Christ, people of faith, and that's an example.
By the way, I'm your annoying brother, though, uh, Alvita.
We've been friends too long.
You You know I'm the annoying troublemaker brother.
I have to apologize.
Somebody told me I could be pretty tough, but I don't have anything on Sean Hannity.
I have to admit they were right, Sean.
They were right.
All right.
I'm gonna let listen.
I I hope all of our prayers are answered.
Let's protect the people in American cities.
Let's protect the businesses in American cities.
Let's let's let this is this is one of these moments where this is not Republican Democrat at all.
This isn't liberal conservative at all.
Universal agreement.
That never should have happened.
That was preventable.
This man should be alive today.
That's universal.
So let's start there.
Now let's agree.
This should be universal.
Protect our cities, protect the people, protect our property and people's businesses.
That's the next step.
And they gotta get tougher.
We know how to disperse crowds and do it in a it is least violent way as possible.
All right.
Thank you all.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity show.
Uh, we're gonna take some calls in the next half hour.
I have other news that I want to share with you about this.
Um, in the meantime, let's say hi to Alan is in Wisconsin.
Alan, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing very well.
Longtime listener, first time caller.
And I'm just uh getting a little fed up with the fact that you've got a small group of people inciting a larger group of people into doing things most of these people wouldn't do normally.
And I'm just I'm getting to the point, and a lot of people in my my age group are to the point where if law enforcement is not gonna step in and handle what they need to because they're so worried about their public image that the normal American citizen,
shop owner, it doesn't matter who you are, where you come from, what what skin color you are, if your property is being destroyed by a mob, it's gonna come to the point where you're gonna have two major clashes, and it's not gonna be pretty.
My brother was a sheriff and was killed in 2010 by a suspect that was in an altercation with another suspect.
My brother sat the two apart, and when he turned his back to get a statement, was stabbed in the neck and killed.
Now, I'm not saying that justifies anything, but the simple fact is is that you have got these small pockets of individuals causing a lot of problems, and when are we gonna deal with them?
Well, if we look a lot of it, I can get into is you know, decades of horrific governance that creates societal problems in ways, but we'll get to your calls coming up next.
Um, socioeconomic factors, but nothing justifies this.
You gotta protect everybody.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of this extravaganza?
Our friend Army Horowitz has been in Minneapolis, is gonna give us his report from on the ground and everything that we've been watching uh sadly unfold.
Um it is an epic spectacular fail.
It's a failure of the moment.
It is a failure of generations of again in most of these cities where we see this happening, generations and decades of liberal democratic rule that never solved fundamental, although they made a lot of promises, didn't they?
When they're running for office, they they promise the moon, don't they?
But this has been socio, economic, educational failure at a spectacular level.
Just like we saw, you know, with the COVID response, blue state governors and mayors, they're the dumbest people that made the dumbest decisions.
You know, how can a city like New York and a state not like New York, you know, when you have 11 million people in a tiny island, the smallest geographical area with the largest concentration of people, why not listen to your health officials and the millions and millions and millions that you spend on uh what do we need to do if this pandemic happens?
Pandemics are predictable.
Well, you should buy 15,783 ventilators.
How many they buy?
None.
For the city of New York alone.
How many should they buy?
10, 10 uh 10,000.
How many they have?
None.
And then they say, then they blame Donald Trump.
Well, Trump got them all the ventilators they needed.
Wasn't easy, but he did it.
How could you not prepare for after Occupy Wall Street after, you know, all these other incidents that have occurred in Ferguson and elsewhere?
How could you not be prepared?
What is the possible explanation for not being prepared for violence?
Just like you, you know, New York would be a top terror target in the entire world.
You know, you have you know, these groups, radical left-wing groups like Antifa, well, some say Antifa, Antifa, or Occupy Wall Street.
How could you not have better plans?
How do you let them burn down a police station?
How do you let people get out of control and start looting and burning down your city and not have a plan for that?
This is the job of governors.
You know, states have their own uh guard available to them.
They can make that decision.
They should have seen it coming, or at least day two, you're ready.
Day one, you might have they might have caught you by surprise.
But even then, you should have intelligence telling you this is gonna happen.
And then, oh, Joe Biden's campaign, they're geniuses, the same ones that wouldn't have put the travel ban or quarantine or subsequent travel bans in effect because they're racist, xenophobic, and hysterical.
Now they're just we have radical Joe, the forgetful one, his team now is you know, literally paying to get some of these anarchists out of jail.
And I'm like, what the hell are you thinking?
President designated Antifa as a terrorist organization this weekend, and you know, and announced it on a tweet.
This is about safety and security and the lives of people in the cities that you are supposed to protect.
And what happens post when all of this comes to an end?
What's gonna happen then when people that are disabled or elderly when they need to get to a store and all the stores in their neighborhood are burned down?
What happens to them after all of this?
You know, fundamentally, there has been a fundamental failure.
These policies don't work.
You know, how is it we spend more per capita on education than any other industrialized nation in the world?
And we're like 37th.
You have to work hard to fail at that ridiculous level.
Why?
You have again, it's all about politics.
It's an unholy alliance with teachers' unions that raise money to elect more Democrats.
You know, what do you think the aftermath of between COVID and what's going on in New York?
What do you think the aftermath is?
People are gonna say, the hell with this, I'm getting out of here.
Now, there's also other cities, smaller cities all across the country.
They've been been through this at all.
We know about Antifa.
We know what they're capable of.
We've watched them over the years.
Uh and and the damage that they have been involved in and stirring up, you know, tensions among people.
Dispersing crowds is never fun to do.
You know, just like if you get any arrest where there's any level of resistance at all, is never gonna look good ever on a videotape.
It's not.
I want every cop with a camera, a body cam.
I want you know, police cruiser cams.
You know, but you you gotta go back to what do we learn in Ferguson?
Well, we had the video of people in Ferguson committing crimes.
We had them committing crimes.
We have their identities because they're on videotape.
Did we go back and arrest them all?
Nope.
Do we do it in Baltimore?
Nope.
You know, how is it that this in the mob they they fuel the mob is so irresponsible?
Because what did they do?
They went with the whole phony narrative.
Hands up, don't shoot.
You know, look at Nicholas Sandman.
Turned out the kid did nothing wrong.
But in they get a snippet, 10, 15 seconds of a tape.
This kid is called every name in the book.
Now he'll end up being a billionaire, but what about the psychology of having to live your life, you know, having been just crucified in the news media.
You know, guys like me, I signed up to get the crap kicked out of me.
I give out opinions four hours a day.
I'm gonna get the crap beat out of me.
I don't care.
Because I have an obligation to do what they're too lazy to do.
They wouldn't vet Obama because they like his politics.
We did it all were criticized for that.
They didn't do anything on the deep state.
You gotta protect your cities.
When you're talking about dispersing a crowd, you have a perimeter.
Perimeters gotta be small.
You may need multiple perimeters.
You gotta be prepared for that.
You gotta be prepared to, you know, the you've gotta ask a president for the National Guard.
But now the president rightly is now saying, I I I gotta do it on my own.
Because you people are pathetic.
Just like he pretty much did it alone.
You know, the fastest, largest medical mobilization in history.
Builds the hospitals, mans the hospitals, converts the hospitals to COVID capability, provides the ventilators, the masks, the gowns, the gloves, the shields, etc.
The respirators.
Do you get credit?
No.
We got people like Cuomo who rejects his own healthcare task force uh forces suggestion to buy 15,783 ventilators.
Blame Trump.
Now we have them going around the the White House.
If there's a breach there, you're protecting the president of the United States.
That will end that will end in the worst way.
Community leaders in DC, please go to these areas and reach out to those members of the community and appeal to them.
If you are a leader, this is a moment where leadership matters.
You have an opportunity here to help protect people.
Which, by the way, they have the right to peacefully protest.
We're not gonna ever take that right away from them.
You know, by the way, you've got the attorney general in Minnesota's a guy by the name of Keith Ellison.
He and his son have already declared officially their support for Antifa.
Wow.
Van Jones, fake news CNN.
We are one more video of tape away from cities going up in flames.
I don't know.
Uh Van, you might want to take a look.
Been a lot a lot of fires around the country over the last number of of days.
You know, we have these incidents in New York.
You could see this building, this antipathy, this hatred, this contempt that exists for police officers.
Okay, fine.
Uh people can have their own points of view, but used it never used to be that you got to throw stuff at cops and and douse them with buckets of water and destroy their police cars and have the video of it all and then never arrest anybody.
It's unbelievable.
Let's see it.
Amazon, they're standing in solidarity in the fight against sist systemic racism.
One of the things I gotta remind everybody, there is no there is universal outrage here about what has happened.
Now the city in Minnesota, now they're gonna have to explain why is it their autopsy was so wrong?
Because it sounds like a cover-up to me.
But I trust implicitly Dr. Michael Biden.
I've known him for two decades.
He's he's a total complete professional.
Same group, other groups, black lives matters.
Yeah, black lives matter.
All lives matter.
I'm pro-life.
Infanticide can't happen.
You l let the baby be born, and then, you know, then we'll make the baby comfortable.
Are you kidding me?
And the media, oh, this is not a riot.
We refuse to call these riots.
We refuse to call them looters.
That would be called telling the truth.
But the media has an agenda.
And anyway, oh, and blame Trump for everything.
No, this is not Donald Trump's fault.
Donald Trump will come in again to fix the mess because they're not doing their job.
You disperse crowds.
It's not brain surgery.
It's not pretty, but it's not brain surgery.
You have very small perimeters, you enforce curfews, somebody throws a rock, Molotov cocktail.
They get arrested, identified, and arrested.
All the people looting, you ought to have people going through the video tape and arrest them all.
You gotta, you know, you got St. John's church, you know, set ablaze.
You got a historic Minneapolis restaurant burned down by rioters just before, you know, days before reopening.
Okay.
All the waiters, cooks, busboys, um, you know, bartenders, they're not going back to work.
They've been looking forward to going back to work.
You uh we have an NYU trained lawyer accused now on Fox News.com.
I saw this of hurling a Molotov cocktail.
You know, you have luxury stores in New York City, literally now overnight, broken into.
Is that really protesting the what happened to George Floyd?
No, it's not.
Does it have anything to do with it?
Nope.
You know, and the and the attorney general's right, Antifa violence is domestic terrorism, and it should and will be treated accordingly.
You know, new video tape did show the police forcing him out of the car.
I'm not sure why.
That was before they they he necked.
Why didn't they leave him in there?
Now, if he was resisting or banging his head and doing something unsafe, that'll come out, but that still will never justify the eight-minute tape with his with now, according to Baden and the family autopsy.
You know, I watch my you know, some of my colleagues in the media, you know.
I don't uh as much as I hate CNN, you can't be attacking news people that are out doing their job.
Now they're arresting news people for doing their job.
Their priorities are that screwed up.
And then the crowds are turning on certain reporters.
Can't have that either.
We've got to have a free press in this country.
You know, a lot of cops are showing trying to show solidarity with them.
Because there's no cop that I know.
I'm friends with a lot of cops.
I anyone that's listened to this program any length of time knows how much respect I have for law enforcement.
Oh, and Susan Rice is claiming.
Remember, she lied on five Sunday shows, that the Russians could be behind all of this.
Well, Susan, you should have listened to Devin Nunez in 2014 and prevented the Russians from interfering in 2016, and your friend Hillary Clinton from buying a dirty Russian dossier with Russian misinformation in it.
I don't think I've ever heard you talk about that.
You know, you look at the cities, it's all over the country.
A lot of these cities, most of them, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago, LA, DC, Baltimore, Memphis, I believe, uh, Boston, San Francisco.
You know, they're they're all liberal cities.
It's, you know, do your job, protect your citizens.
And while you're at it, fix your schools.
And while you're at it, you know, try and get the violence stopped in Chicago.
Hasn't happened in decade.
How do we let this happen?
Weekend after weekend, weekend after people don't even talk about it anymore.
But yet people are shot and people are dying.
Well, that needs to stop.
If every life matters, stop.
And the answer isn't taking guns away from law abiding citizens.
That's where the left goes.
No, that's not it at all.
Rudy Giuliani was hated, hated by the New York Toilet Paper Times.
He was he was sued by the New York Civil Liberties Union constantly in court.
But he got New York City, and he started stopping frisk, and he saved lives, a lot of lives in minority neighborhoods.
When the crime rate goes from what, 2,500 or whatever, you know, down to 300.
Those are real people, real lives, part of our real American family.
But nobody wants to make the call.
Well, then if you don't do your job, then this is never gonna stop.
Now it's gotten harder because people are emboldened.
Once you have the police president present, once you have the reinforcements present, once you surround a small perimeter, once you enforce what are curfews temporarily, once you use the the tools of a dispersing of crowd, tear gas, pepper spray, historically, they work.
Then this is gonna end, and you'll save lives and you'll save businesses and you'll save communities.
Terms of the long-term socioeconomic issues that I have I have pointed out, these cities have failed.
You You couldn't try and fail as much as they have.
And they have not served the people well at all for decades.
Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
It's real bogus.
They gotta get it right.
I mean, otherwise, this was gonna happen.
It ain't nothing left here, so when we start coming to the suburbs, when we come to the government center, then what's all gonna do?
You see what I'm saying?
So, hey, this is what's gonna happen, you know.
Hey the police, it's a boy tunta kinted and we got it.
I just want to tell you on this.
This is strike three.
It's already happened the first time it should have happened.
The second time, it should have happened.
The third time, it's out now.
We go in the comments house, and we're gonna choke that nigga to go fella.
Matter of fact, we got a two for one rule now.
One of ours, two of yours.
Innocent mother.
Because y'all decent don't want none.
There's more of us than you.
What's up?
Exactly.
We coming for y'all!
This is only the beginning, motherfucker.
What's up?
Huh?
Exactly.
We stinks the stuff next time.
This is your mother's house out there in Oakville.
You don't live here.
But we come in the old f house right now.
Don't find my face.
So if I'm not over here wilding out, don't you?
If I'm not over here blowing up stuff, come on.
If I'm not over here messing up my community, come on.
What are y'all doing?
What are y'all doing?
Y'all doing nothing.
Because that's not gonna bring my brother back at all.
Not us.
Yeah, double trouble, buddy.
Right.
It may feel good for the moment.
Just like when you drink.
But when they come down, you go one, you're gonna wonder what you did.
That's right.
You go two.
My family was a peaceful family.
My family is God fearing.
Amen.
Yeah, we upset.
We're not gonna take it.
We're not gonna be repetitious.
In every case of police brutality, the same thing has been happening.
Y'all protest, y'all destroy stuff.
And if they don't move, you know why they don't move?
Because it's not their stuff, it's our stuff.
So they want us to destroy our stuff.
Justice on the right.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I want to see.
Peace on the left!
Justice on the right!
That's what I'm talking about.
I love you.
On behalf of the Floyd family, Thank you.
Thank you for the love.
Thank you for the flowers.
Thank you for the memorials.
Thank you.
Now before I go.
I just want to hear this again.
What's his name?
George.
What's his name?
George Floyd!
What's his name?
George Floyd!
What's his name?
George Floyd!
George!
Floyd!
George!
George!
Floyd!
Alright, that last cut is of George Floyd's brother Terrence.
Um, before that, some of the sounds of what we've been uh now witnessing night after night after night.
Uh I reiterate part of the news president on the line with governors saying you've got to control your cities.
You're being weak.
You're I I mean, we saw it on the first night when they they burned down the T uh the uh police precinct.
You can't allow people that are rioting to burn down police stations and loot with a bandit, and this does no justice to the memory of George Floyd whatsoever.
Uh there is there are proven methods of cloud uh crowd disbursement.
Very proven.
You use tear gas, you use pepper spray, you create a perimeter, you maintain law and order.
It's not for the safety of everybody in town, because this puts everybody's life in jeopardy for the safety of the community.
And when you're looting and you're burning down buildings, those are American jobs going down the tubes simultaneously.
Anyway, joining us uh now is Ami Horowitz news roundup information overload uh hour on the program.
He's on the ground, he's been in Minneapolis.
He's watched a lot of this unfold, and we're gonna get his first hand experience.
Ami, what's been going on there?
It's uh Sean, it's great to be with you again.
It it's absolutely insane.
I mean, you you know, I've been on your show to talk about the times I was in Ferguson, I was with you in the middle of ISIS.
Now, those were scarier events, but this was not that far away.
I gotta say.
Um, this was and to say it's it was volatile is really uh an understatement.
I mean, there was violence all around.
Um, thank God the police and and the National Guard were there in force, but they couldn't be everywhere at one time, and you saw cars being burned, homes being burned.
At one point, I I saw a man being beaten by an old man being beaten.
I had to literally, if I didn't go there and grab this guy and and and stop him, this guy would have killed this old guy.
I mean, it was it was very, very chaotic.
It was uh very fast moving, and it was very dangerous.
Let's talk about uh uh in terms of organization, you get all these conflicting reports.
Um whether the Antifa obviously uh I think has been identified Black Lives Matter uh as a group, uh part of it.
There's talk about the Minnesota Democrats are trying to say that they're white supremacists, members of organized crime, out of state instigators, uh, yet the majority of people that have been arrested are Minnesotans.
Um not meaning they're not part of an organization, but you know, there's been a lot of people saying they're they're bringing people in from outside that are organizing all of this.
Have you seen any of that?
So so everybody that I spoke, nearly everybody, 95%, and I probably talked to 50, 60 people were all local.
And so let me say this about the organization.
It's very difficult to know whether or not there was an organizing force.
Uh you just couldn't tell.
I'll tell you what I did say is that there clearly were elements of anti-cloud in there.
I spent a lot of time with Antifa.
I know these guys.
Obviously, they're not going to walk in and say, I'm with Antifa, but you can get a sense of who they are, and I would say that at least 15, 20% of the people out there were anti-flo-related.
Now, having said that, literally every person that I spoke with, right?
When I when I first began a conversation, they all began with the same trope.
No, look, uh, I don't support violence, I don't support uh anybody getting hurt.
And all Sean, all you had to do was scratch the surface a little bit, ask a couple of more questions, which in the media malpractice world that we live in, the mainstream media ain't doing.
But if you scratch the surface a little bit, what I was able to see was that they all vocally supported the rooting.
They vocally supported the rioting.
They vocally supported for killing the police.
I didn't have to prompt it.
They were telling me this in this video that I'll have out tomorrow.
It was scary.
And now I'm not saying these people were doing the rooting, they were out there creating this havoc, but they were giving it space.
They were giving it room to breathe.
They were accepting of it.
And that's kind of the problem.
And it was almost universal, Sean.
It was crazy with this rooting live that was going on here.
It was nuts.
If you watch, can you have, because we we've been obviously we've been doing our coverage on radio and on TV and at night is when most of this is happening, and we've been doing it on Fox every day, every night.
And I'm watching people, and you know, I tensions are so high.
Why have the police taken this posture that they go so far out and allowed such a wide area for this to continue and not even enforcing their own curfews that they're putting in place?
Trust me when I say it does not come from the police force itself.
It does not come from the captains and lieutenants and the officers on the street.
This absolutely are edicts that come from the higher up.
And I was speaking with these police officers off camera, because they obviously don't want to be on camera, asking them why are you giving these guys room to operate and to loot and to riot?
And they were saying we were told we got to back off.
And that's exactly what and that's Minneapolis, by the way.
This is something that's been going on for a long time.
This is an over You've heard the Ferguson effect.
This is all part of that, where people are saying we don't want to have the same problem, so let's give these guys room to breathe.
And this is what's letting them tear down and burn down whole sections of the city.
And it's so sad.
I was watching, I was watching people, I saw this group of Native American shop owners in Minneapolis.
And they were out trying to protect what they had left.
They were already on their backs because of COVID-19.
They were already on the cusp of being out of business.
And now a lot of these shop owners that I spoke to, Native Americans, right?
The people who who who have as little as anyone were just desperate to survive, and they had like a little coalition trying to survive.
And they were talking about how they're a food bank was destroyed and and and looted.
So Sean, it is absolutely a terrible situation here.
I I don't know what we can do about it.
All right, Ami Horowitz, we'll be checking in.
He's on the ground.
Uh was last question.
Was it a little better now that the guard was called up for last night?
Yes.
So it was not near and I wasn't here the night before when it was really bad.
But for there's no question about it.
The National Guard came in and they got their job done, they were able to secure a whole bunch of locations and they made it safer.
Having said that, it's a big city, it can't be everywhere.
And there were fires and looting going on across the city.
So yeah, it was better, but still it was pretty bad.
All right, Ami Horowitz, uh, thanks for being with us.
We appreciate your time as always.
800 nine-four one Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Promised I'd get to the phones.
We are doing that now.
Uh let's go to Jim is in New Jersey.
Jim, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Uh hi, Sean.
Um, long time listener, first time caller.
Uh, one of the observations I made uh when I was watching several of the videos is that when uh when they finally got the knee off of uh George Floyd and they brought out the stretcher, they put him, they not that they were uh dogging it, but it didn't seem like they were in too much of a hurry to get him on the stretcher.
And then when they did, you would think that a man who is unconscious like that, and the fact that supposedly the police did call for an ambulance, and I think they called a code two and then a code three, which means get there as fast as possible, that they didn't start CPR on him while he was on the stretcher, because he was there for maybe a half a minute, and then they started rolling the stretcher toward the uh ambulance to me.
I I've gone back and I've studied this uh a a lot of different ways from a lot of different angles.
And what I see and what I'm seeing now is very, very clear that it looks like he was unconscious for the last two minutes at least that he was on the ground.
Remember that we only have video of seven seven minutes, fifty-five seconds, but it happened before, so it's we're told it's closer to nine minutes.
And if you watch the one of the most the hardest thing to watch in this is beyond watching the the the knee on his neck, is that when they put him on that stretcher on that gurney, that it's like they're holding his head up separately.
And it is he's not conscious, he was gone.
He's it's just so sad and so unnecessary.
You know, I always say, all right, the 99%.
Look at all the cops now and what they're going through and communities, what they're going through because of you know, this stupid, you know, unnecessary, ridiculous uh treatment of Mr. Floyd.
It should never happen.
This is this is unconscionable.
And look at the consequences.
All right, as we continue, Sean Hannity Show News Roundup Information Overload Hour.
Okay, let's say hi to Tim is in Denver, Colorado.
Tim, how are you?
We got uh minute and fifteen, it's all yours.
Okay, Sean, I was a police officer for 15 years uh before I started my own company.
And I went through the academy back in the mid-80s.
And when I was in the academy, they mentioned positional as six, yeah.
And it wasn't we didn't get uh too much training on it.
I read out read about it on my own.
And um that's what killed, I'm sure that's what killed this individual.
You and Sean or um Rush and Free Gaudi, everybody's pointing their finger at this man that had his knee on uh George Floyd's neck.
And I think you're gonna find when the autopsy comes back that that had nothing to do uh with Mr. Floyd dying.
Uh and then what happens if he's if if if he's charged and then he's found not guilty, what's gonna happen then?
Uh well, I mean, you you're you're not saying as a trained police officer that you approve of a guy's knee with a lot of weight on this on George Floyd's neck for eight plus minutes is uh train uh part of any training because the training is just the opposite.
You know, that you're talking about the most vulnerable part of the human anatomy, someone's neck.
No, as unnecessary and as distasteful and as it was.
It's more than distasteful.
The guy's head is pinned to the ground for an extended period of of time.
He's screaming he can't breathe, and he's already he stopped resisting in that moment.
And you know, he's handcuffed at that point.
You put him up on the the other side of his body.
You don't put your knee on his neck.
You don't, you're not going to get a conviction on of murder when the autopsy says that his knee on his neck had nothing to do with it.
Okay, that's that would be murder one or murder two, which would if you need an intent to kill, number one, uh, and premeditated for murder one.
For murder two, you had an intent to kill.
They didn't charge him with that.
They charged him with um uh mur murder three and manslaughter, which is reckless uh handling uh in this particular case leading to death.
Right.
Sean, you know, you're you're overemphasizing the the the neck, the crowded arty.
You mentioned uh that you saw a video where somebody hit uh in in your uh martial training somebody.
I know asphyxiation was ruled out from a preliminary report.
To me, it is there is no excuse for this.
It is, you know, what uh are we ever maybe really ever gonna know for sure what it was?
Uh maybe doubtful, but I'll say this.
You cannot do this.
This is not police train.
This is not a uh training if I learned by any police uh squad in the in the entire country.
But I've got to run with a little behind here.
800 nine four-one.
Sean, thank you for the call.
How was last night?
Scary.
I live in the Harras right back here, and I seen them as they came down Lake Street, but then they turned and started coming over here, and I'm sitting up looking in my out my window.
And they went straight to office max the dollar store and every store over here that I go to.
I have nowhere to go now.
I have no way to get there because the buses aren't running.
These people did this for no reason is not gonna bring George back here.
George is in a better place than we are.
Last night, I'm gonna be honest, I wish I was where George was because this is ridiculous.
These people are tearing up our lively.
This is the only place I could go to shop.
And now I don't have anywhere to go.
I don't have anywhere to get there.
I know you mentioned, you know, being in your home last night, and and you and you did have some folks that were helping, you know, holding holding the ground.
And you see some cleanup right now as well.
You know, there are signs of hope, but I can I can see the frustration still.
When the National Guard came down 31st, and they realized that they were coming down 31st, they tried to run in the building where I live at, and they couldn't get in because that was security.
And I'm glad they were there.
Because if they had got in that building, there's no telling where they would have hit and try to mess with us inside the building because we're a handicapped.
And I'm not trying to use handicap as a crutch, but there's certain things I can and cannot do.
And for for them to do what they did last night was just stupid.
It was ignorant.
Now what are you gonna do?
Where are you gonna shop at?
Half the people probably don't even live in Minnesota.
They don't care.
Now a very emotional uh disabled Minneapolis resident, her name is Stephanie, uh, describing things that this is what the aftermath of this hall is.
Where is she gonna go shopping?
Where where is she going to go?
What this this is impacting people on levels nobody's even thinking about.
And again, we are trying to get the justice.
You know, the president could not have been more clear repeatedly since this started, expediting a DOJ FBI investigation in coordination with local authorities there.
Uh the arrest of the officer who put the knee on the neck of George Floyd has happened.
Um as the president said, he spoke to George's family, expressed the sorrow of an entire nation for their loss.
Uh further going on that, you know, this should never happen.
This never ever should have ever happened.
And I totally understand.
After watching this, I get angrier and angrier all over the country.
People saw that video and reacted with natural horror, anger, grief.
It is uh now, you know, to get this under control.
None of it is going to be pretty either.
Uh all right, let's get to our busy phones 800-941.
Sean, if you wanna if you want to be a part of the program here, let's say hi to Bill Vancouver, Washington.
Bill, glad you called.
Thanks for being with us.
Hey, Sean, big fan here.
Uh I just wanted to bring up the point that um I think it's it's up to the citizens now to when we see something like that happening, we have to step in.
I I mean there was three or four people standing around video the whole thing.
You know, all it took was two of people put their phones down to you know, kind of bum rush the cops.
I mean, you you're gonna catch a charge, you might get tased, you might get maced, but the guy might live.
You know, the guy's gonna live.
It's up to us to stand up for each other, you know.
The cops, they're in their own gangs.
I mean, cops, yeah, they they have a job to take care of us, but they're gonna look out for cops now.
I mean, you you see it, they're standing down, they're letting these people take over the cities.
The cops are looking out for cops instead of looking out for the citizens like they should be.
Look at what you know, and thanks for the call.
Look at what you know happened in New York City, you know, just in the last year.
Cops being doused with water, cars being attacked, police officers.
Um, a total lack of respect.
I you know, when I had Comrade Bill the Plazio, this useless mayor of New York on TV, and I said, All right, we have all the video.
There's all the people attacking your officers.
Are you going to use that video and have them all arrested?
You know, this goes back.
I've I've always pointed out you have Ferguson, you have Baltimore, you have these incidents occur.
And then the looting occurs, and you have videos of every single person involved in the in the looting.
A little more difficult.
Everybody now, if they're involved in this, now uh is wearing a mask.
But with that said, when you can identify people and you don't arrest them, it gives them license to just continue to do it.
This is not this has nothing at that point to do in any way uh to protest for justice for for George Floyd.
It has nothing to do with him that.
You know, looting is looting, rioting is rioting.
Uh attacking police officers is attacking police officers.
You know, it it's not that I have to say the ninety-nine percent, maybe ninety-eight percent of all cops are there to protect and to serve and do a good job every day, and it's never easy to do what they do.
I mean, they have no idea when they pull you over what is on the other side of that glass when they walk up to your side window.
They don't know.
And and that's why, you know, there there's got to be mutual respect because in in many ways they are the the last line of defense we have to total anarchy and chaos.
And to allow protesters and rioters and looters to get this out of control, you know, it's what the president had to tell these mayors and governors.
The you know, everyone said, Well, the president needs to now take over.
Well, he's probably gonna end up having to do their job again, just like he did with coronavirus, because they're not getting the job done to protect the safety and security of people in these cities where this is happening and protect property and protect businesses, because uh any rebuilding effort is now a monumental effort if it happens at all.
And sometimes it doesn't happen.
All right, let's go to Tom in New York, NYPD 30 years on the force.
Thank you, sir, for your service.
Glad you called, sir.
How are you doing, Sean?
Thanks for taking my call.
I've been a big fan of yours for many, many years.
Thank you, sir.
Um, the reason I'm falling is because of your coverage on Wednesday night of the incident.
You know, you were saying you were uh showing the coverage uninterrupted, uh, but it was interrupted.
You know, you they showed him taking uh Floyd out of the car, putting against the wall, then walking to the car, the police car, but you never showed where he dropped to the ground or why the cause of what he went to the ground.
I'm not uh I'm not defending at all the actions of those.
Right.
Let's assume there's a part of this between the one the first video, the second video, and there seem to be apparently there's a new video out that gives a different angle that might have shown some level of resistance, some level.
Okay.
By the time we get to the video of the knee on the neck for seven minutes and fifty-five seconds straight, and that's not the whole video, so that means it's longer.
Uh there as a cop, there's no cop that I know that looks at this video that says anything other than what the hell is this guy doing?
This is that that's a guaranteed death sentence if you put that kind of pressure on somebody's neck and pin it against the pavement.
Well, we we don't know how much pressure was put against him.
I'm not saying again, I'm not defending the officer's action that's a lot of people.
Well, we we actually do though.
Hang on a second.
If you if you look, Tom, real close.
I've I've watched this, I've slowed it down, I've slowed it down again.
If you watch, there's a lot of pressure on the neck.
You and I both know the most vulnerable part of a person's anatomy is the neck.
You you know, any um any amount of pressure on the neck.
If I got my arm in a rear-naked choke around your neck, okay, and you probably know this from your training.
If if I I could apply half of the pressure I'd be capable of of putting on you, and I can bring you I I could have you down, knocked out unconscious in 15 seconds.
You you do agree with that.
Yep, yep.
I mean, that's that that's the level of sensitivity we're talking about here.
That's why, you know, I'm angry because every cop I know is trained not to do that.
Right.
I I I agree with that part.
My problem is when when you were first telecasting it or broadcasting uh the coverage, uh usually from uh Fox, what you would hear is, you know, let the facts lead the investigation.
Don't encourage public opinion to leave it.
I mean, i when that guy got out of this car, when uh Mr. Floyd got out of his car, you could see he was unsteady on his feet to begin with.
And then when he was taken over to the wall, he collapsed against the wall or they tell him to sit down.
We don't know what happened there.
And then on another channel, I saw a uh video from like half a block away where uh Mr. Floyd either collapsed to the ground or or uh was put to the ground.
You don't know which.
Um but but during the all right, look let's say all of that's true, and and there might have been some level of a resistance.
At that moment, again, his neck, his knee the knee is on the neck and he's pinning it down to the pavement.
You can't do that without it becoming a death sentence for that extended period of time.
And then you shouldn't have the foot on the the knee on the neck to begin with.
Right.
You know, and he's handcuffed.
I'm not I'm not defending what the officer did at all.
What I what I was concerned about was the fact that we don't have all the facts, we didn't have the autopsy at that point.
This this was dangerous, reckless behavior.
This is uncalled for, it is unnecessary, and it has uh and and look at the net result.
You served your community for 30 years.
I know you didn't go to work one day wanting to ever come home and having been involved in an incident with a loss of life.
Am I I'm pretty confident that's true, right?
100%.
I don't think any officer was.
And I don't think I don't think any officer does either.
And your job's hard too, because there there are people that will be violent towards you.
You don't know what's gonna happen in an arrest, right?
Right, right.
And when you arrest somebody, it's usually not very pretty.
If there's a video of anybody uh being arrested that's offering any resistance, is that ever gonna look good on video?
Well, I I think that's the point, one of the points is that optics matter, and this police officer putting his neck uh his knee on that person's neck from the very start, the first second he did it was the wrong thing to do.
You know, you can restrain a guy a lot of different ways besides putting a knee on a on a person's neck.
But it the point is it just in sight it incites people.
When we don't know the cause of death, it just makes people more outraged.
Like the night after the incident that you had broadcast, the following night, Thursday night, Geraldo was on saying this is clearly a racist, racist-motivated incident by this white police officer.
Geraldo doesn't know this.
I don't remember Geraldo saying that.
If you go back at your clip from Thursday night, he says it.
And there's no reason for that because you don't know the first thing about this.
He may be a tremendous racist, or he may be the greatest giving guy to all nationalities.
You have no idea.
Watch the end of the video.
Until you have all the facts to be prejudiced.
I have said these words, and I'll repeat them.
And that is, I don't believe in trial by videotape, meaning not in a courtroom.
I don't believe that you rush to judgment.
I ended up being right because that's been my motto forever.
And I was right on Ferguson, and I was right on Baltimore, and UVA, and Duke La Crosse, and Cambridge Police, Richard Jewel, going back earlier in my career, where everyone else in the media is wrong but there's one thing the this extended tape does you cannot I'm not gonna turn a blind eye and I see it we see with our own eyes what happened here never should happen ever.
Anyway, thanks for your service.
Appreciate it.
Jan is in Kansas City.
Jan, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Hey, I just wanted to call in and say hey, and I agree with a couple of your previous callers.
It's been very disturbing to watch the video.
My ex is a cop and was part of internal affairs, so I understand a lot of the logistics that they have to go through before charging and all this.
But back to one of your previous callers, he mentioned the fact that, and I agree with him, you know, if I was the person videotaping that, you know, I mean, just human nature, my God, it's like, you know, I would risk being stunned and arrested and whatever to try to help that guy.
And I just, I do not understand what has gone haywire in our society where people are more willing to attend these protests and these riots just to get it on their iPhone.
so that they can then post it on social media but that's beside the point.
That's a whole nother issue for a whole nother day but um yeah the whole thing stinks to high heaven uh your caller that you just had previous I tend to agree with some of his comments too or elements of it.
There is a lot of investigation that still needs to go on.
Um do we have body cam?
You know I didn't see I didn't see cameras on the Well no I'll tell you one thing we need it everywhere.
We need I think every cop has to be because it protects the citizens and it protects the police protects everybody.
That's gonna wrap things up for today uh full complete comprehensive coverage tonight on Hannity 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
