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April 1, 2020 - Sean Hannity Show
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NYPD vs COVID-19

Ed Mullins President of the NYPD Sergeants Union, joins to discuss the NYPD and first responders on the front lines of COVID-19. The NYPD reported Tuesday that roughly 15% of uniformed officers, about 5,600, are currently out sick amid the Coronavirus pandemic.The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of this extravaganza, well, even the fake news, New York Times, I mean, they are a despicable newspaper.
I decided this morning to tweet out at some idiot that works for this paper.
And I'm like, you know, are you really proud of the newspaper that you work for?
Are you proud of this?
Because it is never-ending, non-stop, continuous lying.
That's all it is.
This is who they are.
This defines them.
You know, making a case, my mom only listened to Fox News and Sean Hannity, and I was worried about my mom.
And so what I did is I gave her a timeline about what I was saying and a timeline of what the stupid New York Times is saying for three long consecutive years.
I know there are more important items than this on the agenda today.
But for three and a half long years, these mob media maniacs have been out there lying Russia, Russia, Russia.
They've been out there lying Ukraine, Ukraine, impeach, impeach, stormy, stormy.
There's never-ending crisis, crisis.
Hysteria, panic.
We got them.
We got them.
Oh, we didn't get them here.
We'll go for this.
Same with the Democratic Party.
It just defines who they are.
And so I just tweeted out.
So you proud, the woman's name is Kara Swisher.
I don't even know who she is.
This newspaper is just pathetic.
And somebody sends it to me and I read it.
And I'm like, she writes about her poor mother.
And by the way, I wish her mother well.
Mother, apparently, at one point was a friend of mine.
Guess not anymore, but she was a friend of mine.
Her daughter maybe talked her out of it.
And I just said, you are ignorant and you are lazy and you are a total hypocrite because she is.
This defines them.
I said, you're going to lecture me about what we defined as what?
Do you have the January 26th, Linda, tape of Fauci about what we were telling people?
The first time I had Anthony Fauci on this program, and he is a national hero.
That goes back to January 27th of last year.
And what I was saying on the 27th of January, I'm sorry, of this year, and the 28th of January of this year, is I started reading about it.
Now, this is only six days after the first known coronavirus cases in the U.S.
And because I read a lot, that's part of my job is to prepare for this program.
I began to read about this virus.
And because almost half my friends in life are real life doctors, medical doctors, and I sit through these discussions and they fascinate me.
And I've gone to operating rooms and I've watched people be operated on.
And I just have a love of medicine.
If there's an operation on a TV channel somewhere, I will watch it and watch it and watch it like a lunatic.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but if you ever watch like a hip or a knee replacement, it's fascinating.
I mean, back in the day, it's like they have a hammer and chisel and they're cranking away and putting in somebody's new knee or new hip.
It's crazy.
But I'm fascinated with it.
And I also know that our medical researchers, and I believe in science and our doctors and our healthcare professionals, I mean, they're just amazing people.
We come up with better and better, better ways to keep people healthy.
The advancement that we have made in finding treatments for, let's say, cancer and heart disease.
Think back 20 years ago.
Stents didn't exist or somewhere around there.
It wasn't that long ago.
Now, stents are used as a matter of regular course for people that have blockage in their arteries, and they do so successfully.
And there was a process to that.
First, they had stents, then they came out with medicated stents, and then they just kept improving on it to the point where now it is commonplace.
You can be stented and sent home almost the same day.
It's crazy.
A buddy of mine, I talked about a hip issue I have.
The guy says, Well, I can go in, I can go in anteriorly and take out your hip.
And I see this stick that's going to go in your femur.
And you see this ball at the end of the stick that'll pop out.
And you see this cup.
We put this up here.
It takes me about 45 minutes.
You walk out of the hospital the same day.
And I'm looking at him like, huh?
I mean, crazy stuff.
If you go back, lymphomas, if you go back, Hodgkin's disease, if you go back any of the cancers that should scare the living hell out of everybody.
I mean, I lost a cousin decades ago to Hodgkin's disease.
He'd be alive today.
He would be alive today because of medical advancement.
So anyway, this Kara Swisher person is writing that finally I talked my mom into not listening to Sean Hannity.
Said, I'll put my timeline up against yours because your newspaper was printing Trump virus.
If you're feeling awful, you know who to blame.
Oh, that was her newspaper.
Of course, I don't expect one day that I'm going to hear a response saying, yeah, that was irresponsible of my newspaper to do this.
Well, I'm not holding my breath because if I do, I will be dead.
Or her paper, you know, they did use the left and the Democrats were using from the earliest days, as evidenced by that headline, anything they could use to politicize this, weaponize this, continue their bludgeoning politically of Donald Trump because that's who they are.
That defines them.
That is their ever-overriding obsession in life.
And it's, you know, like, for example, her newspaper printing, let's see, February 5th, who says it's not safe to travel to China?
The coronavirus travel ban is not just unjust.
Oh, I wonder if her mom, perhaps if she was going to China, maybe she had a planned trip.
If she was listening to her daughter's newspaper at the time, that would have been a really, really, really dumb idea.
And then I did something that, you know, you would think that a New York Times reporter would have a quick answer to.
She ends up writing back something to the effect: what did Kristen tell me that, oh, I think he really likes me?
Oh, I gave her attention.
I'd never heard of this woman before.
But I said, all right, 10 days after the first confirmed COVID-19 case in the U.S., January 21st, President Donald J. Trump implemented the travel ban January 31st.
I asked her a question: Did the POTUS president of the United States make the right decision?
Or do you agree with Quid Pro quo, the ever-confused Joe, that it was hysterical xenophobia and fear-mongering?
No answer yet to that question.
Hey, Kara, you might want to share with your mom and her fellow leftist like Ben Smith over at the New York Times.
Ben Smith, he writes this I Hate Fox column, by the way, basically an every other day column.
And Ben Smith, you know, got the information about what I had said and when I had said it, and he just acts like it doesn't exist.
But that's the same for every newspaper here.
This is what fake news CNN has been doing and continues to do.
This is what conspiracy TV MSDNC has been and continues to do.
This is the same group of people that have lied and that have pushed conspiracy theories and hoaxes on the American people, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine.
It's the same group.
And now they will politicize even this.
And for those of you that don't, do you have that, by the way, Linda?
I don't know.
Somebody can talk to me.
Yes, you do.
You know, if somebody, you know, cares about the truth, those people that attack conservatives in this, they're the most guilty.
Let's go to the Washington Post.
This is Eric Pop the Pimples newspaper.
Get a grip, America.
The flu is a much bigger threat than the coronavirus for now.
Okay, I'll put my timeline up against that crap, too.
Then, yeah, in early February, the same newspaper, Washington Post, why we should be weary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus.
Wow.
Pretty amazing.
That's your media mob.
She started out, oh, Sean Hannity, don't worry, I'm not going to sue.
So I said to her, I said, listen to me.
I hope you do sue me.
Please sue me.
Discovery and a countersuit by me against you.
I have good attorneys.
I think for this, I would probably want Charles Harder and Lynn Wood.
You know, the people that are going to get a fortune and are getting a fortune for Nicholas Sandman and the guy that beat, what was the name of that public K? Gawker.
I'll hire both of them.
They're both friends of mine and I love them both and they're both the best in their industry by far.
And I'll hire them.
It could be a landmark case.
I said, let's go.
Game on.
File your suit.
Anyway, the ball's in their court.
We'll see if they do.
But this is what we live with.
There is nothing that Donald J. Trump will ever do, and I've been saying it forever, that is ever going to satisfy these people.
It's not going to happen.
Now, as we have been discussing for a long period of time, the New York Times finally is beginning to catch up because we've been talking about hydroxychloroquine along with Zithromax for a long time on this program.
Dr. Roz will be back today with the latest updates.
We have some really good medical updates today.
And malaria drug helps virus patients improve in small study.
Wow.
They're telling us help speed the recovery of small number of patients who are mildly ill from corona.
You know, they can't make a big deal of it because Donald Trump went first, you know.
That's the problem.
Mildly ill coronavirus doctors in China reported this week.
Well, maybe they should get a little bit more up to speed because there's more studies, tons of anecdotal evidence that it's working all over the country.
But they would rather, I guess, quote China.
Not that I think that it is any particularly, you know, good information.
I got a lot more on the mob I want to get to today, but, you know, morning, Joe, what happened to Morning Joe?
Everybody but Trump saw coronavirus coming in January.
That's a lie, Joe.
Why are you still alive?
What happened?
Joe, what happened to you?
I remember a call in the middle of the 2000 election, and I know exactly where I was.
They're stealing this from George W. Bush.
Whatever it is, if you are a Republican and you go to MSDNC, the conspiracy theory channel, you change.
I don't dislike Joe.
I don't have anything against Joe, but Joe has Trump derangement syndrome.
Like Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt and everybody else over there at MSDNC, they all want to hang on to Rachel Maddow, the chief conspiracy theorist Cotels, and hope that they get ratings so they can stay on television.
Anyway, it's just false.
We knew that in early January, China was busy covering up the pandemic.
I reported very early on in January, but they didn't over there at NBC News.
They were too busy involved in the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, just like the Democrats on Capitol Hill.
Fox News Alert, the deadly coronavirus, which originated in China, has now spread to the U.S. Here now live from our West Coast newsroom tonight with the very latest Trace Gallagher.
Trace.
And Sean, just to get the numbers straight without alarming anyone, there are currently five confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S., but the CDC now says 110 cases are under investigation in 26 states.
That number is likely to rise.
The five confirmed cases are among those who recently traveled to Wuhan, China.
And clearly...
All right, we have an incubation rate that is, in other words, you can be, while it's incubating in your body, apparently you're infectious.
Is that correct?
It is correct, you know.
So that incubation period can be anywhere from two to 14 days.
The question is whether or not somebody can be contagious during a period where they're asymptomatic.
You know, so they can fly over to the United States, have no symptoms on the plane, but then develop the symptoms once they're here.
The question is, were they contagious while they were on that plane and when they were traveling?
And if that's the case, then how do we track all of those contacts?
So that's probably going to be reasonable.
Contact tracing, it doesn't appear that it's even possible at this point in China, does it, Dr. Umber?
I think in China, with the population density they have, that would get much harder to accurately track that, especially as people start to hit the public places, the hospitals and doctors' offices in mass.
So you have this large crowding effect.
But maybe not everyone was registered when they went there.
They're waiting in line.
So, yeah.
All right, let me interrupt this for the second.
That was January 27th.
Dr. Fauci on TV the 27th, reporting about it in the U.S., reporting about asymptomatic people that seem very contagious.
And the 28th of January.
That was even before the travel ban.
I guess I was ahead of the curve.
Well, nobody saw this coming.
Anyway, they're just liars.
It is even in the midst of a national emergency.
They're playing games.
CNN didn't even take the president's opening remarks yesterday.
We can't get updates on a national emergency from the president.
No, we don't like him.
All right, as we continue on, 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, you know, one of the main things, so they were putting out, worst-case scenario, between 100 and what, 220,000 potential deaths in the United States.
That's scary.
But what they don't talk about in the media is that the potential without the travel ban, without the quarantines, and the extended travel bans and the mitigation and the 15 days now extended to April 30th, the number would have been more like 2.2 million.
Now, would somebody say, well, Donald Trump made a good call there.
Anyone at the fake news, New York Times?
No.
Now, I've got a montage that I'm going to play when we get back because the mob and the media, I don't want anybody to die.
Said that too early in this process.
I want a cure for cancer and heart disease.
I want cars that are safer.
They have great technology.
You're about to hit somebody in front of you.
The car will stop for you.
I want all of that.
I want to live forever, frankly.
Hopefully, in heaven, I will.
All right, I'll play this on the other side.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
All right, let me give you a small sampling of how insane the mob is.
Now, why is this important?
It's important because if Donald Trump, I said long before coronavirus cured cancer, they would still want to impeach Donald Trump for curing cancer.
This defines them.
It is their obsession.
It is 24-7.
They will lie, smear, slander, besmirch, and peddle lies and conspiracy theories one after another.
Breathless hysteria.
And then they sanctimoniously act like, well, Donald Trump should have done this or should have done that.
Never before in the history of pandemics has anybody ever acted as quickly and decisively as Donald Trump.
January 21st, first known case of coronavirus in the United States first.
Now, January 31st, well, that would be when the travel ban and a quarantine put in place by the president.
That's when Joe said it was hysterical xenophobia and fear-mongering.
Why does that matter?
Well, it matters now because exponentially, you know, how many tens, if not more, of thousands of Americans would have contracted the disease, spread the disease, and exponentially, mathematically died.
They don't care.
Bludgeon Trump, bludgeon Trump 24-7, politicize, weaponize.
And, you know, it doesn't matter how wrong they are.
They'll never revise, extend their remarks, ask for an apology, correct their methods of failure.
That's just who they are.
Listen.
The risk to New Yorkers for coronavirus is low, and our city preparedness is high.
This should not stop you from going about your life, should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat.
I'm going to do that today myself.
Come to Chinatown.
Here we are.
We're, again, careful, safe, and come join us.
There is no concern at this time for coronavirus in our region.
The Department of Sanitation is ready for Madi Gras 2020.
The facts are reassuring.
We want New Yorkers to go about their daily lives.
But there's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do as New Yorkers.
We are a haughty people.
Americans do not need to panic.
What I would suggest, however, is that Americans take this as a wake-up call for seasonal flu.
There's very little threat here.
This disease, even if it were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu.
So we're telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday.
I'm going to be there.
If you had to, would you close down the borders?
No.
We need to be honest about the American people, with the American people, about the fact that we can't keep people coming here from China.
And transmission is not that easy.
I think there's been a misperception that coronavirus hangs in the air waiting to catch you.
No, it takes direct person-to-person contact.
We also know that if it were likely to be transmitted casually, we would be seeing a lot more cases.
Yeah, they all got it wrong.
And, you know, a lot of that came from the Office of Public Advocate New York.
Whoopsie-daisy.
And the idiotic mayor, ill-prepared, number one terror target in the United States.
They didn't even have extra gowns or masks or gloves.
That's how bad it was.
State of New York rejecting five years ago a warning that they needed in case of a pandemic, 60, 18,000 ventilators.
Governor Cuomo, now in his third term, they had a task force put together.
Well, how can we just sort of, you know, make the most of the 2,000 that we have?
But they'll blame Trump for it.
You know, over at fake news, CNN, MSTNC, one host after another saying it's dangerous to keep airing the president's corona briefings.
That's not what they're afraid of.
The president is giving a daily update as it relates to a national emergency, and they don't like it.
And then, especially when you compare it to the ever-confused, confounded quid pro quo Joe, there is no comparison.
Nobody has ever done more quickly than this president, including, you know, what is massive amounts of money to take care of every single worker, making them whole.
That has never been done before.
It has never been done before in such record time that they were able to cast aside FDA regulations.
We never had ever the ability to break down the sequence of a virus than coronavirus, now phase one trials of a vaccine.
We've never had FDA rules put aside for the treatment that shows hope and promise, like hydroxychloroquine, along with azithromyosin.
We'll put those rules aside.
Let's get the game going.
If we're saving lives, let's do it.
Let's give people the right to try.
Let's give compassionate use and let's get it out there.
And it is showing beyond anecdotal evidence now that it is working.
If I had it, I'd use it.
Dr. Oz said the same thing on this program yesterday.
He'll join us later today.
You know, I want to say one thing, and then we're going to check in.
We have a problem in New York with the NYPD that is scaring, should scare everybody in New York.
Got to protect our officers.
You know, they put out these models yesterday.
Everybody misses the main point of the model, which if we didn't do the mitigation, if the president's travel ban and quarantines weren't put in place, this could have been exponentially worse, 2.2 to 2.4 million.
Now they're looking to add up between what, 100 and 100 and 220,000.
And fake news, Jim Acosta, fake news Acosta, you know, takes out of context a sound bite of Anthony Fauci asking federal doctors if the U.S. could have prevented more deaths by acting to mitigate the virus sooner.
Well, that's not what they were calling for on fake news CNN, but that is a sidebar.
Now, let me say this before I play Dr. Fauci.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has now served, what, I believe, six presidents, served Reagan, served Bush.
He served Clinton two terms.
He served George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and now Donald Trump.
He has dealt with all of these pandemics his entire career, the span of his entire career.
He was in the forefront of helping find answers and solutions to keep people alive with AIDS.
He has worked on these other pandemics.
He is, to me, a hero.
The guy, he is a doctor on the front lines dealing with things that we don't often have the answers to.
And for all the people, well, you change, you change, you change, you change, you changed.
So five days after the first known case in the United States, Dr. Fauci was, I was on some radio program, I don't remember which one.
And he didn't think it was much of a threat.
Now, that's five days after the first known coronavirus confirmation in the U.S. and literally five days before Donald Trump implemented the travel ban, which was called xenophobic, racist, hysterical, and fear-mongering.
Here's what Fauci said, January 26th.
And I say this not to disparage Fauci, just the opposite, to show that we don't know right away, that some of these things take time.
And here we are two months later.
And look how far we've come.
Listen.
What do you tell the American people about what's going on?
Should they be scared?
I don't think so.
The American people should not be worried or frightened by this.
It's a very, very low risk to the United States.
It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about because we have ways of preparing, of screening, of people coming in, and we have ways of responding like we did with this one case in Seattle, Washington, who had traveled to China and brought back the infection.
Dr. Fauci is the best of the best of the best.
Please do not miss, don't misinterpret this.
The point is, we didn't know.
He didn't know.
Now, the very next day, when he was on my radio program, I think he was on my television program, you know, it was at that point beginning to seem different because Ace, and then I interviewed him about on February 10th.
Again, my timeline, I'll put it up against anybody else on TV and radio.
They don't want to discuss my timeline.
They just want to say, fire Hannity, and ignore every irresponsible, reckless, insane thing that they've all printed or said.
But by February 10th, we're talking about asymptomatic people, asymptomatic, but still highly contagious.
Turns out it's like three times more contagious than the flu.
Nobody knew that at the time.
And so we were all learning together.
And look at where Dr. Fauci is.
He's on the front lines, and his counsel, his experience serving six presidents, saving lives.
Just like Donald Trump's travel ban five days after Anthony Fauci said that is saving lives.
Anyway, I am concerned.
So I was at the USNS Comfort, this amazing, I mean, it is so massive.
This Navy hospital ship that came into New York this week, and I'm looking at this thing, I'm like blown away.
And I met a lot of NYPD officers there.
I love New York police officers.
I wish the mayor of New York loved NYPD officers as much as I did because when I challenged him about are you going to take the video evidence of everybody throwing water on cops and dousing them with water and attacking them?
Are you going to arrest them all?
I trust the NYPD.
I said, why don't you as their leader say something?
He didn't.
But anyway, we have now, unfortunately, as of today, 15% of uniformed officers, 5,600 are out sick.
Many of them now confirmed 1,048 uniformed members and 145 civilian members positive for coronavirus in New York.
Ed Mullins is the president of the NYPD Sergeants Union.
First of all, thank you and all of these officers and first responders and firemen and EMTs and nurses and doctors on the front lines for all you do every day.
I talked to a bunch of NYPD officers the other night and yeah, they said they're dropping like flies.
This is bad because you guys are on the front lines.
That's correct, Sean.
And thank you for always being an advocate for the NYPD.
I say dropping like flies, meaning they're contracting the virus.
I'm not saying dread.
Right, right.
The NYPD is taking some real hits right now with sickness.
We're up around close to 6,200.
They're out sick.
1,300, almost 1,370 are positive with Corona.
And we have about 32 people hospitalized.
So the numbers continue to grow.
It was 3,000 just over the weekend, right around the weekend, and we've nearly doubled.
You know, as you know, and the general public knows, you need the police in the street.
We have about 35,000 officers.
I think Commissioner Shea is doing everything possible to try to keep cops out on the street.
But we are taking hits.
And I anticipate this is going to continue.
EMS is losing people and working incredible hours.
So when you see what's taking place, we have doctors and nurses in the hospitals, but we are the people that are getting them to the hospitals.
And this is a situation.
I got 38 years at the NYPD.
I've been at both World Trade Center attacks and all types of explosions that occurred, and I've never seen anything like this.
We have a bit of a bad line here.
Let me offer you this.
If there's anything, Ed, that I can do or anybody can do, do you have a website, anything you need for support, any items you need?
Because I know the people of New York, the good people in New York.
I'll say it that way.
Not the ones dousing cops with water and attacking them.
But anything we can do, any website we can go to help you guys out?
We love you guys.
We know you're putting yourself in harm's way every day.
I think there's one thing, Sean, is keep talking about what you have been talking about.
How did this happen nearly 20 years after 9-11?
Why is the city of New York ill-prepared to have dealt with this?
This is the best.
Can you explain this to me?
How is it Andrew Cuomo is now in his third term, was told to get an additional 16,000 ventilators to the 2,000 he has, and then sets up a task force that says, well, let's see how we can ration the ventilators and then screams at Donald Trump, who's sent the Navy hospital ship, who's built a 3,000-bed hospital at the Javit Center,
that is building hospitals with the Army Corps of Engineers at the Javit Center, Westchester County, Nassau County, Suffolk County, and wherever else they're going to need them.
Send 4,000 ventilators that Cuomo puts in a warehouse.
How is it possible after 9-11 and the first trade center bombing?
They don't have anything.
How is that possible?
Well, I find great difficulty with it, and I think issue with it.
You know, I was at Ground Zero, and we lost thousands of people because we weren't prepared back then.
And since then, we hear all about counterterrorism and all these things we should have in place.
But if you compare what we're going through right now, the scenario would be the same if this was some type of biochemical attack and the cops did not have the equipment when this first started.
We don't have decontamination.
And by the way, that would be on the mayor and the governor.
Everyone will be able to do that.
They're lashing out a Trump.
I'm not such as this mayor, though, Sean.
We had Bloomberg here for 12 years.
We've had a different governor right after 9-11.
We have this governor now.
There's no excuse.
He's in his third term as governor and the second term as mayor.
No excuse.
I think.
And then they rip Donald Trump every day.
Is there a website or anything we can do to help you guys?
I think one of the biggest things you could do, Sean, is we need Congress to pass a public safety officer benefit to let the cops know across the nation that they have our backs while we're out there and to ensure that if something happens to us in a line of duty as a result of coronavirus are taken care of.
I agree.
It could have been easily prepared for.
Absolutely.
I have to run, but Ed, we're praying for your guys.
We love them.
Thank you.
Please tell them all.
Great guys.
Skinner, simple man.
It can only mean one old thing.
It is allthingsbilloreilly.com, who joins us.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, how are you handling your social distancing?
That might actually be easy for you because, you know, you're complicated.
It might be hard to hang out with you.
Yeah, I am.
That is so mean, you should tell me to drop dead.
You really shouldn't have to say that.
No, no, Hannity, but you're being honest.
I'm with you on this.
No spin zone.
Like most Americans, I don't have that social distancing problem.
People see me and they're 30 feet away.
Same with, by the way, we have the same thing.
It's like the Westerns when the bad guys rode in, all the kids who run off the street, and the women, and that's just like me.
I kind of walking down the street, and everybody's gone.
But I am feeling more simple than usual today because I have noticed something that I hadn't heard on any of the media, and it's fascinating.
So the nexus between politics and the pandemic has now been established this week.
If you read the Boston Globe editorial from March 30th, it says that President Trump has blood on his hands over the coronavirus.
All right?
They wrote those words.
And then if you look at the New York Times article from today, White House economists warned in 2019 a pandemic could devastate America.
New York Times.
So this is not by accident that these two newspapers, ultra-left, both of them, have come out this week in conjunction with CNN and NBC News.
Now, the theme is that the President of the United States knew early that there was going to be a pandemic and did nothing, nothing, hid it from the people.
This is what you're going to hear from now until the conventions in the summer, that you can't re-elect a president who covered up a pandemic even though he knew it was going to kill Americans.
So I have a rebuttal to that if you don't have any questions going forward so far.
Oh, I'm listening to what you have to say.
I'm listening intently.
By the way, you are a man of your word.
Thank you for sending me an early copy of your book.
I think it's out in the summer.
I appreciate the early copy.
Thank you.
And, you know, I know you have a lot of time because people are.
I did like the.
I'm interested.
You got my interest on page two, but I have to have time to read it.
All right, killing crazy horse.
But people don't want to hang with Hannity either.
We're just too controversial.
But anyway, all of this is hatched, as we discussed previously on the Hannity radio program, on K Street in Washington.
It comes out of a place called the Bonner Group.
And then it goes up to Boston.
There's another Democratic think tank up there, Dewey Square.
And they disseminate this stuff.
So this is the new theme.
So let me take this apart.
So the Boston Globe says President Trump has blood on his hands because he didn't alert the country and the world to it.
So I say to the Boston Globe, in three and a half years, you have not said one good word on your editorial board about Donald Trump.
We did a Google search on billoreilly.com.
Not one good word, not anything about the economy, not anything about trade deals, not one word positive for the Boston Globe.
And they endorse Elizabeth Warren for president.
Now, I want to know, because I'm a simple man, what other world leader tagged the pandemic?
Give me one name.
Did Boris Johnson do it in Britain?
Did Angela Merkel do it in Germany?
Did the Australian prime minister do it?
Did anybody do it?
What's the answer, Hannity?
So I have a long answer.
You're laying out a very good case.
And the problem with what you're doing is you are speaking truth.
You are looking at facts.
It's very simple truth that is knowledgeable.
It's not complicated truth.
I can add, let me add to this with one statement.
Now, I think you're like me.
I'm guessing.
I have such a profound, deep respect for everybody in the medical community.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has served now six presidents.
Six.
He was in the forefront of saving lives with AIDS and other pandemics.
He's been there.
The guy is amazing.
The 26th of January, first known case, Timeline Matters of coronas in the United States.
The 26th, this is Anthony Fauci.
What do you tell the American people about what's going on?
Should they be scared?
I don't think so.
The American people should not be worried or frightened by this.
It's a very, very low risk to the United States.
It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about because we have ways of preparing, of screening, of people coming in, and we have ways of responding like we did with this one case in Seattle, Washington, who had traveled to China and brought back the infection.
Now, simple man Bill O'Reilly, please no.
That is not to say gotcha to Anthony Fauci.
He didn't know.
No.
Nobody knew.
And that's an excellent soundbite.
And you love him like I do, right?
You respect him.
I respect the hell out of you.
He's making one big mistake, though, and I'll get to that in a minute.
Look, on January 22nd on billoreilly.com, I did an analysis and I said to Americans, you got to watch this thing.
Now, I missed the Fauci soundbite because like everybody else, including you, I was covering impeachment.
All right.
Impeachment was everything all day.
And I was locked in on that and I wasn't looking, but I did pick up the Wuhan situation and I did flag my viewers.
However, when you go to the Boston Globe and you have a major newspaper in this country saying the president has blood on his hands and there's not one other world leader, not one, who flagged this, you're lying.
Okay, so then every world leader has blood on his hands, everyone.
And the second thing is, when you look at the U.S. intelligent report today, and I don't know whether you got this or not, but it was given to the president today.
Bloomberg News Service broke it.
The U.S. Intel report says that the communist Chinese government misled everyone and put out false statements.
So you don't know.
The British study points out 95% of this world pandemic would have been stopped if China told the truth.
Told the truth.
They didn't tell the truth.
And then you have the New York Times, and this is really fascinating.
The pandemic was warned, and White House economists said it.
You know how many studies are put out a year from the federal government?
50,000 plus.
In World War II, FDR got a study that said the Japanese are going to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Did you know that?
Okay?
Got a study.
He did nothing.
Japanese devastated Pearl Harbor.
Bill Clinton, President Bush the Younger both got studies that said al-Qaeda in Afghanistan are going to attack the USA, which they did on 9-11.
So what do you do when you get a study?
What do you do?
Well, Adam Schiff is already drafting legislation to set up a 9-11 commission to review Corona.
You know why, Bill?
Because he wants to bludgeon Trump.
Let me give you my long answer.
By the way, if you want to stay past a half hour, we'll let you, because I don't want to rush this conversation.
It's too important.
No, no, we'll stay.
As long as you want to.
Well, I got hit by this idiot at the New York Times like I was giving her mother bad information.
You said you mentioned it on the 22nd.
Flag this on TV with Anthony Fauci on the 27th, before the travel ban.
I flagged it on radio with Fauci, what, the 20, no, radio the 27th, I think, TV the 28th.
Well, either or, I'm not sure which is where.
So I get pounded by the newspaper that said, Trump virus, if you're feeling awful, you know who to blame.
By the paper, again, using it to bludgeon Trump as they went out there, you know, politically and politicizing this.
Who says it's not safe to travel to China?
The coronavirus travel ban is unjust.
That was the New York Times.
And well, Joe, so 10 days after the first case, January 21st, confirmed case in the U.S., President Trump implemented the travel ban.
January 31st, Biden said xenophobic, hysteria, xenophobia, and fearmongering.
Yep.
Now, on February 14th, Comrade de Blasio, you should not stop from going about your life, and nothing should stop you from going to Chinatown, going out to eat.
And Pelosi, February 28th, Bill O'Reilly, is telling people, we want people to come to Chinatown.
She said, Marty Grac continues.
The New York Health Commissioner was telling New Yorkers, you know, largely for two months to defy guidances.
And it got worse from there.
The Democrats were in the middle of impeachment, Bill O'Reilly.
And while they were impeaching Donald Trump, he was putting in place a travel ban.
Now, I want your simple analysis.
To me, it's incalculable how many Americans did not contract this virus, how exponentially, mathematically worse this would all be, but for that brave decision that brought on nothing but insane criticism and charges of xenophobia, hysteria, and racism.
How important was that decision?
Well, that's going to be the linchpin of Donald Trump's campaign for reelection.
And he's going to always be able to fall back.
And then Biden's always going to have to defend the xenophobic remark.
But it's more than that.
It's the United States now has become tribal, as we discussed.
But I don't understand why there isn't more anger toward the media for absolutely putting this stuff up and lying about it.
You know, hey, Bill, it's worse than that.
They don't even want to cover in a national emergency the president's task force with important life-saving information.
Who does it help that the Boston Globe says the President of the United States has blood on his hands?
Who does that help?
All right, who?
We know you hate Trump, Boston Globe.
New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC.
We know it.
All right?
That's all you do is hate him.
But is this helping sick people?
Is it helping people raise the spirits of Americans?
You know, it's not.
Three and a half long years, fake news, CNN, conspiracy, Roswell Rachel Maddow's channel, MSDNC.
They lied to the American people.
That includes the New York Times and Washington Post.
You know what the Washington Post was writing February 1st?
Get a grip, America.
The flu is a much bigger threat than the coronavirus.
And February 3rd, why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to Corona.
That's them.
That's on them, Bill.
All they want to do, it's just propaganda now.
And since I'm a historian, I know what propaganda can do to a nation.
I saw it in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
Sadism is alive.
All right, stay there.
Don't go anywhere.
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We'll get more of his analysis.
Also, Dr. Oz with our medical update for the day.
All right, as we roll along, 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Bill O'Reilly will stay past the half hour with us.
He's got a new book coming out.
I guess sometime now in the summer, it's been delayed a little bit, like everything else.
All right, so we look at this, the media, we understand they haven't been helpful, they haven't been right, et cetera.
From a health standpoint, I'm looking at everything that the president has done, public-private partnerships, drive-up testing that has now evolved into five-minute tests that we're going to have 50,000 a day.
I look at, you know, getting rid of old FDA draconian rules so we have off-use of medicines that are also safe, FDA approved, like hydroxychloroquine and zithromyosin, et cetera.
We have new procedures that are used, convalescent plasma.
All the rules on pandemics have changed in two months, less than two months.
Well, look, if he gets it under control by summer, saying June 1st, now he wins.
You know, he's going to win re-election.
If he doesn't, if kids can't go to school in September, it's going to be very tough.
Because I don't think it's going to be Biden.
I think it's going to be Cuomo.
We could talk about that next half hour.
I have one suggestion for the Trump administration.
I would tell Fauci and Bricksett, the two doctors, not to speculate about deaths.
I don't think that does anybody any good.
Don't throw numbers out there.
This might happen.
This could happen.
People want facts, and they don't need that.
And they don't need to be just told that, well, it could come back in September.
Hey, you know, by September, there could be an atomic explosion somewhere.
So speculation, I think the Trump administration should ban that in their expositions.
Well, I think what they did yesterday is that when they came out with these varying models, we do this for everything, medical bill, in clinical trials.
But the models are predicting what it would have been had we not mitigated and not had a travel ban versus where we are now.
Look backs are all right, but it's, you know, look, Fauci saying, yeah, well, we could have this in September again.
That doesn't do any good.
All right, let's take it week by week.
You want to look back?
Look back.
All right.
People are going to have to make up their own minds whether the Trump administration has done them a solid in the pandemic or not.
And facts will drive that, not hysteria from the media.
So we all know that's a bunch of crap.
And speculation by the Trump administration doesn't help their cause.
I think that the American people understand that, and this is why the media doesn't even want to cover his daily coronavirus task force, you know, press conferences, because they're afraid, well, Donald Trump looks too presidential.
How could you not, in a national emergency, want to cover that when the American people need the information for themselves, for their safety, for their loved ones, for their families?
That is part of the insanity.
More of Bill O'Reilly on the other side.
Dr. Oz, our medical aid team, coming up at the top of the next hour, straight ahead.
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And I want to go to what are the responsibilities of mayors and governors.
You just mentioned in the last segment that you think, for example, that Joe Biden, the ever-confused, confounded quid pro quo Joe, is not going to be the Democratic nominee that you think that they are preparing to steal it from him and give it to Governor Cuomo.
Why do you believe that?
And how do they pull that off?
So my analysis, and first I'm going to give you a compliment, Hannity, and you can't stop me.
Your analysis about why The left-wing media, NBC and ATT in particular on television.
And it's really, I mean, when you really step back and look at those companies, Comcast and ATT, I just can't believe it's happening, but it is.
They know that by being on television every night talking about the pandemic, that Donald Trump is winning over some independent voters.
That's why the assault this week from the New York Times and Boston Globe on his handling of the pandemic.
But it's almost CNN and MSDNC are saying they don't want to cover it.
Yesterday, Fake News, CNN did not cover his opening statement.
Because it's not going well for them.
Even Jim Acosta, though, he's trying, he's trying his hardest to diminish Donald Trump.
Trump is making him look like a fool.
So that's what that's all about.
Now, for your question about, okay, so the American people are sitting there and they want a solution, but they also want to cooperate.
Most Americans want to cooperate with this pandemic thing.
I haven't seen any civil unrest.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff going, hey, blank you, I'm going to do what I want.
Everybody understands how dangerous this is.
But we're living in a divisive country, and Joe Biden is the frontrunner and will get enough delegates, I believe, if he can make it through to July.
However, I know by because, and I don't like to use anonymous sources, but I have to do it now.
There is great concern among Mr. Biden's family and friends about his mental health.
Great concern.
And his wife is the key.
All right.
Dr. Jill Biden, she has a PhD in education.
They're worried about him.
And the thinking now is that if Biden can't make it, they'll get him to a couple of weeks before the convention, and then he'll step aside for health reasons and give his delegates to Cuomo because the PUBAs in the Democratic Party believe Cuomo would be the strongest candidate, much stronger than Bernie Sanders, against Donald Trump.
So that's what's being discussed, and I know this to be true.
And I think that may very well happen.
I don't see Joe Biden making a comeback from his mental acuity problems.
I don't see that.
I could be wrong.
I've heard from many in the Democratic Party, too, that they would like to do that.
And there is angst, anxiety, concern.
It's DEF COM 5.
I'm going to ask you yes or no questions, and then I'm going to let you give a long answer, okay?
Do you, Bill O'Reilly, believe that governors and mayors have a responsibility to prepare for emergencies?
They're all broke.
I didn't ask that.
Do they have a responsibility, Bill O'Reilly?
Now, wait a minute.
This is a no-spin zone.
Come on.
They have a responsibility.
It's a big deal.
It's a responsibility, but you have to be realistic.
They don't have the money to buy the stuff.
Okay.
Well, we'll get to that in a second.
But you do think they have responsibility.
All right.
Now, would you agree with me?
The state of New York, we both live here.
We're stupid.
We really are.
But anyway, the state of New York and the city of New York would be the epicenter for any pandemic, considering the large population, 10 million people, the smallest geographical area in the country, correct?
Certainly, we have to be the epicenter.
Certainly.
Would you agree that the number one terror target, maybe one or two, in terms of a terror attack, would be New York and or D.C., one and two, or one or two?
Would you agree with that?
Of course.
Okay.
Would you agree that the president that is now building triage hospitals in Westchester County, Nassau County, Suffolk County, a 3,000-bed Army Corps of Engineers built hospital at the Javits Center?
We saw this incredible ship, this floating hospital comfort come into New York Harbor just this week, and that the president sent up 4,000 ventilators and sending up mass and sending up every other bit of equipment that New York needs.
You think the president has gone all in for New York?
I think the president is trying to defeat the pandemic, no matter where it is.
But he's specifically gone all in for New York.
He's given everything he's got and working feverishly to get more.
He's not generous to New York.
I know where you're going with this.
No, you know.
I'll harken back.
The country's broke.
The federal government's broke and the states are broke and the cities are broke.
They're not going to be stockpiling anything unless, unless there is a provable threat.
And certainly the Wuhan virus was not that.
Nobody knew what the hell it was.
Okay.
Now here's my argument, and then I'm going to turn the show over to you.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
In 2015, there was a warning.
This is Andrew Cuomo's third term.
Bill de Blasio, I don't think it's capable of much, period.
So I'll put him aside for a minute.
The great Andrew Cuomo that says, I need 30,000 ventilators.
That same guy.
I only got 3.8 billion.
Chuck Schumer says it's more than 40 billion in this last bill that was passed.
And I would argue being the number one, the epicenter of any pandemic possibility that will get out of control, it would be New York.
The number one target for terrorism in the United States is New York.
And I think there is an especially compelling obligation if you're the governor or mayor to be prepared.
Now, in 2015, the governor was warned that he was 16,000 ventilators short if there was a pandemic.
The governor had a task force put together, and they just decided, well, let's figure out how we can ration the only 2,000 ventilators that they have.
He made a decision.
That was his choice.
Now, we also know a lot about Governor Cuomo and things that he has spent money on, Bill.
We know he spent $750 million on a solar panel factory that closed down in upstate New York.
Wasted.
Waste.
$90 million for a light bulb company in California.
That failed too.
$600 million for a computer chip factory that sits empty.
And the governor was warned he would need 16,000 additional ventilators.
They had no preparation.
Now, I had the governor on the program, Bill O'Reilly.
I kept him up.
I even blew break for the governor, two breaks, because I thought it was important.
He talked about getting along.
Talk is cheap with politicians.
And then I watch him every day.
I need this.
I need that.
I need this.
And he did nothing himself.
Now, maybe he does run.
I don't know if you're right.
I've heard similar chatter everywhere.
But to me, that sanctuary state status, city status, free health care to illegal immigrants, waste, fraud, and abuse, lack of preparation.
There's a lot to vet here, Bill O'Reilly.
I think that it wouldn't go over well for Mr. Cuomo.
Okay.
You want my analysis of Cuomo?
Here it is.
It's going to be pithy.
I'm not going to go on too long.
Number one, he's moved tremendously to the left.
The abortion law and the letting the prisoners out of jail are just incredible radical left pieces of legislation that he signed.
Number two, people are moving out of New York state, affluent people, hundreds of thousands of them since he's been governor.
They're moving out of the state because it's the highest tax state in the union.
Number three, upstate New York is a disaster because he won't allow fracking.
If he did, the state would be in much better condition economically, and then he could have bought all the medical supplies that you referred to.
It was impossible for him to stockpile medical supplies because the state has no money.
They're running a $100 billion deficit.
He can't do it.
He can form a commission, but he can't buy anything.
And that's the federal government, too.
They don't have any money.
Hey, Bill, if he was $750 million in the solar deal and the light bulb deal and the other ridiculous deal, $600 million, wait a minute.
He wasted that money.
They all went belly up, and you're right about fracking.
You know, and I will say this.
It is just to me, I said to the governor, Bill, I said, anything I can do to help my fellow New Yorkers, let me know.
I want to help.
And I watched this guy.
He won't even allow.
We have all this anecdotal evidence, and Dr. Oz will give us an update at the top of the hour about how hydroxychloroquine, along with the zithromyosin, is working.
Somebody we know used it.
I haven't told you yet.
And it literally prevented our friend from getting intubated.
He was probably 24 hours away.
He is the doctor that's doing that, right?
Is that his name?
No, Dr. I listen, people have questions about him.
I put him aside.
But he's one metric, if you want to look in and believe him.
But apparently he's, I didn't know at the time when we talked to him that he's, I don't know, people have questions about him.
No, Dr. Oz, we have a study out in France.
We have studies now coming in, and we have a clinical trial going on in New York with 1,100 patients.
And I believe those will be successful.
I think what you're saying will be borne out in the next month or so.
But number one, the New York press does not quiz Andrew Cuomo in his daily upbringing, do they?
Does anybody ask a tough question of him?
One person?
No, no one does.
Contrast that to the Trump press conferences.
And number two, the biggest deficit Andrew Cuomo has if he runs for president is his statement that he told the nation America's never been a great country.
Ever.
Now he said it.
That's going to be rammed down his throat.
So it's not a slam dunk that he beats Trump.
It's just that you got to give him his due.
He's articulate and intense and driven.
And when you interviewed him, you saw that personally, correct?
No, I wanted to help.
I wanted to put partisanship aside.
This virus doesn't discriminate between a Republican, a Democrat, conservative, or liberal.
And what's frustrating to me is all of that waste, fraud, and abuse.
And you're right about every other economic measure, and you're right about his statements.
And when I watch everybody killing themselves to save the people in this state, which we need to do, we're Americans.
If we can bail out Europe and beat Nazism, fascism, communism, radical Islamism, we certainly need to help any American in trouble, New York, California, doesn't matter where.
They're our family.
We protect our family.
And then go out there and with all of that help, all of that money, all of those resources, all of that energy, he's politicizing it, lashing out more.
I want more.
I want more.
And it is infuriating to me.
And then he's denying the people of this state, Bill O'Reilly, if you want hydroxychloroquine and you want to try that treatment and you're sick, you can't get it unless you go to a hospital.
I don't want anybody right now, if you don't need to, to go to a hospital.
Why?
Because it's an open petri dish there.
And why he would deny with all the anecdotal evidence that we have people that medicine is unbelievable to me.
He'll reverse it, I predict, soon.
Well, they did it in Michigan and they did it in Nevada.
Right.
And Cuomo will reverse it.
But you know as well as anyone that Andrew Cuomo is running for president right now.
And he's got to do two things, put himself up as the virus slayer.
That's my name for him on billoreilly.com.
And he's got to diminish Donald Trump.
That's what he's got to do.
And he's doing it.
Really, what you said, when you say diminish, what you're really saying is that Donald Trump needs to fail.
Right.
In other words, for him to be in a position to win, you're saying that, well, if Donald Trump fails, the country fails, Bill.
And we're talking about life and death here.
And people die, right?
But there's no other way for the Democrats to take the White House back.
No other way.
He's got to fail in the pandemic or he gets re-elected.
So that's what you're seeing now.
You're not seeing reality.
The political had an article yesterday that confirms this, that, you know, the Democratic operatives, they quoted in this piece.
It's just so repulsive and annoying and disgusting.
You know, Bill, if you kill Soleimani and, you know, Iran, number one state sponsor, terror, killed Americans in Iraq.
This guy is the terror leader.
If you kill Baghdadi and associates, you kill the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen, and you can't get a good job, President Trump.
President Trump, in retrospect, your travel bans prevented tens of thousands of Americans from contracting the virus and prevented death.
That was a good call.
We disagreed at the time, but in retrospect, you were right.
Is anyone in the media, Bill O'Reilly?
Is Andrew Cuomo going to say, good job, Mr. Trump?
You save lives?
No.
He's got to position himself as being smarter and more effective than Trump.
So therefore, anything bad that happens in New York, anything bad that happens here, what's he going to do?
He's going to blame the federal government.
He's going to blame Trump.
He has to do that if he wants to run.
Okay, so he has to play politics at the expense of the people in his state.
Am I misinterpreting what you just said?
No.
And that's how savage the nexus of the politics in the pandemic is.
Sick.
This is three years of hate Trump.
If he cured cancer, Bill, this guy won't get credit from a lot of these people.
It's sick.
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Facts without fear, coronavirus deaths in the U.S. Top 4,000.
Now, some say it surpasses China.
I don't know if we're getting the truth out of China even at this late date.
I'll let other people figure that out.
Apparently, we do have some of our CDC members on the ground there.
And I know other people want informal discussions.
Who's going to finger point?
And California is releasing prisoners, 3,500 of them.
Dr. Burks is saying significant amount of missing data from China may have led to the slow coronavirus response.
That is in keeping with the study out of Great Britain that said 95% of all of this could have been prevented had they just been open and honest and sought the guidance, help, and brilliance of the world's researchers, especially the U.S. Apparently, China scientists, Chinese scientists are saying they have found several extremely effective antibodies in their coronavirus research.
I don't know whether we get to that or not, but something to maybe hold on to is something we might need or want.
The estimates from yesterday were chilling.
Had we not taken mitigation efforts, had we not had the travel ban, the quarantine, that was 10 days after the first case reported in the U.S., it could have been as high.
The death toll could have been as high as 2 million plus.
They think it'll be somewhere between 100,000 and 220,000.
Here with his expertise, he's all hands on deck during this medical epidemic is our friend Dr. Oz.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
I'm excited today.
I had a big, big night last night after we finished the show.
Tell me about research.
Well, I got this paper that these days, instead of researchers publishing their paper in a journal, which takes months to do, you send it in, a reviewer looks at it, and they just made a hem and ham, they give you some feedback, go back and forth a bunch of times, and someone prints it in the journal.
These days, literally, people just slap it online and they say, this is my research I'm working on.
I'm sending it in to get published, but in the meantime, I'm going to spread the wisdom because it's a pandemic.
There's no time to dilly-dally.
And so the Chinese group that we have been tracking for a while and we had reached out to in the past, last night published a randomized trial, which for the listeners means half the people got the treatment, half didn't get the treatment.
That's what Dr. Fauci has been asking about with, for example, with hydroxychloroquine, right?
That malaria drug.
Well, that's what these guys published, literally.
They did a randomized trial.
It was actually done about a month ago in China.
They wrote it up.
You can tell that it was written by folks whose first language wasn't English, but it's a pretty good English written paper.
Certainly much better than I would write it in Chinese.
And they went through these 62 people.
And let me just quickly summarize what they found.
They got the traditional therapy that everyone gets in China when they get sick, which includes things we don't do here, antivirals and some antibiotics.
But then they added to half the people.
So 62 people, half got 31, got the hydrochlorichloroquin, half didn't.
They were very clear in what the inclusion criteria were.
Basically, you had to still be living in reasonably good health, and you had a pneumonia on your CT scan, but otherwise, you know, they're doing okay.
And then the exclusion criteria were things you should exclude, like do you have a bad heart with arrhythmias because that's one of the side effects of this drug.
And what they found was, I think, wonderful to hear.
And I think it's going to change a lot of people's minds about whether they should be using hydroxychloroquine.
They found that in terms of symptoms, like for example, did you have a cough?
Well, instead of having a cough for three days, you have it for two days.
That's a big deal.
It was statistically significant.
Instead of having a fever for 3.2 days, you have it for 2.2 days.
Again, cutting off a day from that, statistically significant.
And then this is the important part.
They did an analysis of the CT scans to see how the pneumonia fared, because the pneumonia is a pretty big deal.
And in the control group, they moved towards an improvement in pneumonia 55% of the time.
In the experimental group, it was 81% of the time.
Statistically significant.
And that's with that very small number of patients.
Now, I don't want to overstate this.
62 patients is not a huge number.
We're doing our own trials in this country.
It will take a while to get the answers.
We'll know for sure when those trials done with top-notch American physicians are completed.
But I'll tell you, for a thumbnail sketch of deciding whether you want to take this or not, it's worth it.
So I brought Dr. Ian Lipkin in, who's one of the most famous virus hunters in the world.
He was actually asked by the Chinese, went there and helped them back in January.
And I asked him to come on the show and just be honest about what this means to him.
Now, interestingly, he actually had COVID-19.
Despite all his travels, he'd escaped it.
He got sick about 10 days ago.
He took hydroxychloroquine.
He got a little dizzy for the first day, but otherwise was okay with it, and he's doing well.
And he talked to his colleagues in China, the top scientists there, and they know the group.
They didn't know this paper, but they say they use it routinely.
It's part of their manual for operate for treating patients now in China.
And now we know why.
Now we have the randomized trial.
The senior office, a woman, Dr. Zhank, she did not want to speak on camera, but we confirmed that it was her paper and submitted.
So I feel pretty good about this.
I'm going to focus tomorrow.
I have Dr. Burks on my show tomorrow, and I have this topic, and I asked her about it.
I'm sending it to you, so you can look at it as well.
I want the task force to see this.
Well, this is not the only evidence that you've gotten a hold of.
You have, add to that, the French study that you had mentioned.
Add to that the anecdotal evidence that you're getting with all the doctors that you've been inviting on your show, all the patients that you've had on your show.
Would I be wrong in interpreting what you just described to me this way and saying, well, let's say you're 24 hours away from being intubated and you use the hydroxychloroquine along with Zithromax, some say zinc as well.
I don't know how you feel about that, but if you use it and that prevents intubation, how pivotal could that be in saving lives?
Well, again, this study dealt with people who are not that advanced, and it could be valuable there, but I would much rather use it earlier as soon as you're diagnosed, because it seems to change the course of the infections.
Let's go over this again for everybody.
The French data, which was not randomized, which was the big knock on it, but just said, okay, we're desperately dealing with patients here.
I don't have time to do a study.
I'm just going to take everybody and treat them.
And what he found in 80 patients was that they clinically did better.
He put them on this combo drug that you mentioned, the malaria drug plus ZPAC.
But because he didn't have a control group, no one knows if that's real or not.
However, he did not have complications.
And he showed in a prior study that the viral load, the amount of virus coming out of patients was down.
That's important because that lets you get them out of an isolation area and they're less infectious when they're home.
This study, similarly, if you have a reduction in symptoms of fever and cough, well, that's one of the ways we decide if you're infectious.
The rule of thumb is for at least three days or a total of a week after you first present with illness, you're going to be really infectious.
Well, this reduces that.
So this all sort of shifts the curve of this virus towards a more benign, you know, if you can just sort of push this back towards being regular old influenza, that will be a great goal.
Now, I'm going to point something else out that they mentioned in the paper that I'm, you can tell I'm excited about this, but this is sort of an experience, but there's still a work in progress.
They noted that the people who came to their hospital who had rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and therefore were on hydroxychloroquine, none of them, none of the 80 patients had COVID-19.
None.
And in the hundreds of 90 or whatever patients who had been there by then who came in with the infection, not a single one had rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
So what you're saying is it may be a prophylactic.
Exactly.
So we have a clinical trial going on at my institution, New York Presbyterian, to examine this.
But I actually, this is an idea Brian Kilmead said this morning on Fox and Friends to me, and it's very smart.
That why don't we ask Medicare Medicaid Services, right?
See Ma Verma is the administrator there, a very solid leader.
And I wrote over today a note, and I said, can you just go back and look at the Medicare database of all the tens of millions of people in that database, there have got to be a bunch who are taking this drug already, right?
We had their prescription forms, and there are a bunch who weren't taking it.
That is a great idea.
And by the way, you could do it anonymously and see if they want to part and give them a choice to participate.
And I would bet 98%, 99% would participate.
So let me then ask you, and I always go back to the simple question, but it matters.
Do you think you, look, you're in people's faces all day, masked up, gloved up, I understand, but it doesn't matter.
You're at risk, as is every other healthcare worker, medical professional, and amazing, brave people that we have in your industry.
And by the way, I love your passion about all of this.
Would you consider using it proactively like that of prophylactic?
If I was called to serve in the emergency room, I remember the ER doctors and the ICU doctors, I'm not the heart surgeons, which is what my day job is.
My training is.
So if I was called to work in front of people with COVID-19, I would take this as a prophylactic measure.
That's the clinical trial we're experimenting on.
And I think that's another example of how you might deal with it.
If you've got folks who are more frail, more at risk, or first responders, because you've got 15, 20, 25% of physicians and nurses out of commission.
And when they get sick, remember, first of all, they're exposed to higher amounts of the virus, so we think that might make them a little sicker.
And in addition.
What about leaders like Boris Johnson or President Trump?
God forbid, we don't want anybody to get it.
Too risky for them?
I think that's not the first line.
They think you want to, I mean, the drug is a 70-year-old drug.
It's been used forever for chronic purposes to prevent malaria.
And it's used now even for chronic autoimmune problems, as we've talked about.
But I wouldn't start with world leaders.
I think you want to get it to the people who are most in need.
And that's actually one of the big challenges now is make sure we can get enough pills.
Because as this data begins to accumulate, see, until now, everyone justifiably in the medical field can say, wait a minute, wait a minute.
We don't actually have an experiment where half the guys got it and half didn't get it and they didn't know if they were getting it or not.
And now that we can compare them face-to-face, head to head, was there really a difference?
Because, you know, three days, two days, how big a difference is that?
This is actually the first, it's small, but the first trial of its nature that I'm aware of that showed a difference.
There was another randomized trial that didn't show a difference, but those folks all got bed just so fast I couldn't tell.
So no one's going to say it's completely solved, but this kind of data gets physicians to take a step back.
How quickly, in your view, could we do the study which you're suggesting, which is go to local pharmacies.
You don't identify people by name, and they can contact, obviously, people that get prescriptions.
If this is being used either for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, or people.
Let me interrupt you.
You don't have to go to pharmacy.
You don't have to ask patients.
We have that already.
They have a database they can de-identify, which means you take the guy's name off, age of birth, all the identifiable, if there's like 19 things that you can identify with, right?
Get rid of all that.
I don't care about any of that.
I literally only care about your age and your sex, primarily, which doesn't identify because there are lots of 59-year-old men around, right?
So then match one list of people with another list.
They know if you filled your prescription because they can tell they paid the bill.
They can't tell if you took the pill, but they're assuming that if you already know, if you're carrying a diagnosis of lupus and you're on this pill, you're going to be taking the pill.
So that's what I'm saying.
Listen, I'm as excited as you are.
That sounds, if we can get that data, how quickly, is that something you can get in a week?
Is that something you get in three days?
Who would be in charge of that?
Who would be the person to contact to say, hey, get this information?
I think it's Seema Verma, who I already wrote, has written me back.
She texted back.
She wrote back.
She said, I'm excited.
This is a good idea.
She moved.
I mean, but you don't usually get from someone as busy as she is trying to manage all the things she's got to take care of to get that kind of feedback is wonderful.
She has to obviously get people who do it, but I think they're excited.
I don't believe it.
There will be no delay.
Everybody wants answers and solutions.
And this seems to be a solution that might, with an answer, be able to become routine.
Now, this is hydroxychloroquine with Zithromax.
You've also talked, hey, we're looking at 100.
This wasn't even Zithromax.
Oh, that was just the hydroxychloroquine.
Correct.
Good point.
Good point.
So there are 100 other things that you said you're looking at.
You've mentioned a number of them to me as well, and some other for really sick people.
There's been some anecdotal success with convalescent plasma, those that had the virus, those that are well, and you take the plasma from the blood and you infuse the antibodies which built up in that person's blood into somebody who's really sick.
That's been somewhat promising.
What are the promising things you see besides hydroxychloroquine?
Well, the convalescent plasma concept is big, and we need people to donate blood.
The only time I left my house here in the last two weeks was to go donate blood with my kids.
So we don't have enough blood, period, and we don't have enough people who've had COVID-19 who are well enough to donate blood.
But if you've been through it, we need your plasma because your antibodies you made are valuable.
Now, there's a company, you know, this Ian Lipkin I mentioned earlier, the virus hunter, the famous guy, he was actually the medical consultant on contagion.
And it's sort of based on what he does for his life.
So he's one of the big supporters of convalescent plasma, the use of antibodies.
One of his collaborators, I guess in the movie, I just reading about it today, and I'm waiting to hear back from him, develops some antibodies that are already made.
So they were looking at this for SARS back in 2003, and then they've looked at all these antibodies, and some of them cross-reacted good work for the COVID-19 virus.
So here's the idea.
Instead of having to get somebody to donate their plasma to you, you can actually take antibodies pre-made in a vial, right, and inject them into a patient, like the one you mentioned earlier who's a day away from intubation.
Now you're helping their immune system keep up because people who are sicker have more virus in general.
We don't know why, but they're unable to keep up with it.
That's why I love medicine.
I mean, you just love figuring it out.
I mean, it's your passion, and it's infectious.
What about the task force numbers?
They talked about without mitigation, without the travel ban, the quarantine, we could have had well over 2 million deaths.
And I think you respect Dr. DeFauci like I do.
He's been around working for six presidents.
He's saved an incalculable number of lives over the course of his career.
This is what he deals with, AIDS and pandemics.
But even on the 26th of January, that was five days after the first known case in the U.S., he didn't think it was that big a deal then.
He was getting more concerned the 27th and 28th when I interviewed him.
Now they say the mitigation efforts, travel ban, it would be 100,000 to 240,000 deaths.
What do you think of those numbers?
I think those numbers are pretty accurate.
I'm hoping we get to the lower side of that range, but the travel ban was an important contributor to slowing it.
They gave us more room.
Unfortunately, we squandered that lead by not having tests available, which I think, in retrospect, it'll be the single biggest failure of the whole process and one that no one would have envisioned.
None of the scenarios that anyone ever had fashioned in the fact that you wouldn't know what the heck was going on.
Dr. Oz, great news today.
We'll update all of this tonight.
You'll join us on Hannity.
You're always generous with your time during, and your information is amazing for the audience.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
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The president is now stepped to the podium, his daily coronavirus task force.
I see the attorney general is there and a lot of military people as well.
We'll see what the president has to say.
Yesterday.
And we explained why we're extending our nationwide guidelines to slow the spread for 30 days.
Together we have the power to save countless lives.
We are attacking the virus on every front with social distancing, economic support for our workers, rapid medical intervention, and very serious innovation, and banning dangerous foreign travel that threatens the health of our people.
And we did that early, far earlier than anyone would have thought, and way ahead of anybody else.
In this time of need, I know that every American will do their patriotic duty and help us to achieve a total victory.
As governments and nations focus on the coronavirus, there's a growing threat that cartels, criminals, terrorists, and other malign actors will try to exploit this situation for their own gain.
And we must not let that happen.
We will never let that happen.
Today, the United States is launching enhanced counter-narcotics operations in the Western Hemisphere to protect the American people from the deadly scourge of illegal narcotics.
We must not let the drug cartels exploit the pandemic to threaten American lives.
In cooperation with the 22 partner nations, U.S. Southern Command will increase surveillance, disruption, and seizures of drug shipments and provide additional support for eradication efforts which are going on right now at a record pace.
We're deploying additional Navy destroyers, combat ships, aircraft and helicopters, Coast Guard cutters, and Air Force surveillance aircraft, doubling our capabilities in the region.
Very importantly, our forces are fully equipped with personnel, protective equipment, and we've taken additional safety measures to ensure our troops remain healthy.
Secretary Mark Esper, Attorney General Bill Barr, National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien will provide more details.
In addition, I'm going to have General Milley, who's done an incredible job in so many ways, say a few words.
And also with us are Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Gilday, who you know, I think you know, and Commandant of the Coast Guard, Admiral Schultz.
So I'm going to ask Mark to start, and then we can go.
And after that, we're going to take questions as it pertains to this, and then we'll go on to phase two, which is the virus itself.
Okay, thank you, please, Mark.
Well, thank you, Mr. President, and good afternoon, everyone.
I appreciate the opportunity to be here today as we make this very important announcement.
At a time when the nation and the Department of Defense are focused on protecting the American people from the spread of the coronavirus, we also remain vigilant to the many other threats our country faces.
Today, at the President's direction, the Department of Defense, in close cooperation with our interagency partners, began enhanced counter-narcotics operations in the Eastern Pacific Ocean and the Caribbean Sea.
This initiative is part of the administration's whole-of-government approach to combating the flow of illicit drugs into the United States and protecting the American people from their scourge.
I want to thank all of our partners in this effort, to include the United States Coast Guard, the Department of Homeland Security, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Department of Justice, and members of the intelligence community for their tremendous support and cooperation.
To conduct these enhanced operations, the President has directed the deployment of additional ships, aircraft, and security forces to the United States Southern Command area of responsibility.
Included in this force package are Navy destroyers and littoral combat ships, Coast Guard cutters, P-8 patrol aircraft, and elements of an Army Security Force Assistance Brigade.
These additional forces will nearly double our capacity to conduct counter-narcotics operations in the region.
Additionally, 22 partner nations have joined us in this fight, bringing with them a variety of intelligence and operations capabilities needed to defeat these criminal organizations.
Last year alone, United States Southern Command's operations resulted in the seizure of over 280 metric tons of drugs, much of which was designated for shipment to America.
While this was an incredible achievement, there is much more work to be done.
Transnational criminal organizations continue to threaten our security by smuggling cocaine, fentanyl, methamphetamines, and other narcotics across our borders.
These drug traffickers put our communities at risk and destroy lives.
Every year, tens of thousands of Americans die from drug overdose, and thousands more suffer the harmful effects of addiction.
Furthermore, corrupt actors like the illegitimate Maduro regime in Venezuela rely on the profits derived from the sale of narcotics to maintain their oppressive hold on power.
The Venezuelan people continue to suffer tremendously due to Maduro's criminal control over the country.
Drug traffickers are seizing on this lawlessness by increasing their illicit activities.
We must do more to prevent these drugs from arriving at our shores.
These enhanced counter-narcotics operations that are now underway will further disrupt the flow of illicit drugs to America, deny our adversaries the financial resources they depend on, and build the capacity of our partner nations throughout the region.
I want to thank President Trump for his leadership and support to this critical mission.
This is a particularly important time for this operation to begin.
As nations around the world shift their focus inward to deal with the coronavirus pandemic, many criminal organizations are attempting to capitalize on this crisis.
The enhanced operations we are announcing today will keep the pressure on these criminal groups and protect the American people from the devastation caused by the flow of illegal drugs into our country.
Mr. President, thank you for your leadership as we begin this important operation.
While the men and women of the United States military work hard here at home to fight the coronavirus, we continue to take action around the world to defend our great country.
Thank you, and I'd like to invite General Milley.
Thanks, sir.
Thank you, Secretary, for those words, and thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership.
And I want to publicly thank Admiral Craig Fowler, the commander of U.S. Southern Command out of Miami, for leading this operation, which is underway effective today.
And also Admiral Gilday, the Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Schultz, for their contributions to this from their services.
There's thousands of sailors, Coast Guardsmen, soldiers, airmen, Marines involved in this operation.
We came upon some intelligence some time ago that the drug cartels as a result of COVID-19 were going to try to take advantage of the situation and try to infiltrate additional drugs into our country.
As we know, the 70,000 Americans die on an average annual basis to drugs.
That's unacceptable.
We're at war with COVID-19.
We're at war with terrorists, and we are at war with the drug cartels as well.
This is the United States military.
You will not penetrate this country.
You will not get past Jump Street.
You're not going to come in here and kill additional Americans.
And we will marshal whatever assets are required to prevent your entry into this country to kill Americans.
So right now, the Navy has marshaled additional Greyhaul ships from both PACOM and UCOM and for the Naval Fleet at Norfolk.
And they are set sail already, and they are in the Caribbean right now.
In addition to that, there's 10 Coast Guard cutters and their Special Operations Forces and Security Force Assistance Brigades, along with Air Force reconnaissance aircraft.
The bottom line is you're not going to get through.
Now is not the time to try to penetrate the United States with illegal drugs to kill Americans.
With the United States military, we will defend our country regardless of the cost.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you, Secretary.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thanks for your decisive leadership as we confront this unprecedented challenge posed by coronavirus.
And I'd like to thank you for your support for this important initiative and thank all of the Secretary of Defense and all the services for taking on this important initiative.
Obviously, during this crisis, we're all focused above all else on COVID-19.
But at the same time, our law enforcement and national security work must go forward protecting the American people from the full array of threats.
For the Department of Justice, one of our highest priorities must remain destroying the Mexican cartels.
Their trafficking is largely responsible for the deaths, as we all know now, of 70,000 Americans a year.
And also, the costs of this don't count the destroyed families, the destroyed lives, the draining of our national treasure as state budgets are crushed by the burden that this narcotic trafficking causes.
The President has made clear that we are in this fight against the cartels to win and that we are not interested in half measures and that the threat posed by the cartel is not just a law enforcement threat, but a national security threat as well.
And in December, building on your success with the Mexican President in forging a cooperative relationship in the area of immigration, you asked me to go down and meet with the President Lopez Oberdor and our Mexican counterparts to see if we could also establish a more comprehensive and coordinated effort with the Mexicans in confronting the cartels.
And we've had some successful visits and discussions and currently have an array of activities underway against the cartels.
And we anticipate, along with the Mexicans, that these are going to bear fruit in the months ahead.
But it quickly became clear that we can obtain the most immediate results, the best bang for the buck, where we increase the assets involved in interdiction on both the Pacific and Atlantic side of Mexico and the Central American countries.
For years, the cartels have been using these sea routes to take the cocaine up from principally Colombia, now also out of Venezuela.
And these sea routes on both coasts have become the primary means of bringing cocaine up to the United States.
Because of the superb work done by the Defense Department and our intelligence community, we know exactly, most of the time, where these traffickers are at sea.
But we're significantly, have been up till now, significantly limited in our ability to interdict because of the numbers of the assets we have deployed.
Prior today, this limitation meant we could only intercept a fraction of the traffickers and the various boats that were detected.
This will now double our capacity.
And we are talking about hundreds of tons of cocaine now we're now in a position to seize.
So this is going to radically improve our interdiction efforts and put tremendous pressure, we think, on the cartels.
And the effort that Southcom is undertaking is going to save lives by taking drugs off the street.
Last week, I announced the unsealing of charges of narco-terrorism, drug trafficking, and other crimes against the former Maduro regime, 16 members of that regime, and their involvement in trafficking of 250 metric tons a year.
A lot of that comes by sea, as I discussed at that time.
But also, because of the pressure we're applying by our sea interdiction, they are trying to establish an air route out of Venezuela up into Central America, which is one of the reasons we're trying to move firmly against that corrupt regime.
You know, this drug war has gone on for many decades, and at times in the past, we've had great success and great.
Right, the president and his task force, they're actually now talking about the drug cartels, and especially during the pandemic, they're doubling their efforts and a lot of weird stuff.
I mean, people are unbelievable.
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