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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.
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You're a damn liar, man.
That's not true.
And no one has ever said that.
No one hears that.
I look on the TV.
You see it on the TV.
No, I know you do.
And by the way, that's why I'm not sedentary.
I get up and let him go.
Let him go.
Look, the reason I'm running is because I've been around a long time and I know more than most people know.
And I can get things done.
That's why I'm running.
And you want to check my shape on?
Let's do push-ups together here, man.
Let's run.
Let's do whatever you want to do.
No one has said my son has done anything wrong, and I did not on any occasion.
And no one has ever said it.
Not one.
You said I set up my son to work in an oil company.
Didn't that what you said?
Get your word straight, Jack.
But I read here on the MSF.
You don't hear that in MSMB state.
Look, look, here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
It looks like you don't have any more backbone to come down.
Any other questions?
Yeah, I'm not voting for you.
Well, I knew you weren't, man.
You think I thought you standing with hope?
Well, you're too old to vote for me.
Why don't you just get out of here?
Stick it up, you're...
What for me?
What's that?
Okay, so there's two things we've got to do.
We have to move immediately back to reestablish all those standards we had to begin with when we left office.
They significantly add to.
And the way you do that is, for example, you are in the state of Ohio, which is state violent, like they're trying to do in the state of Ohio.
They decide which.
And then we had another program that the court ruled that we were not able to, under the authority, do by executive order, but I'm going to try to push.
And it was, there's a dreamers program.
There's also a program that said we're not going to separate families.
There are a lot of families who stay together while they go through the process.
And the court said you can't, you don't have executive authority to do that on our own.
And it was, we did that in 1976.
And it was started.
I mean, excuse me, 2000.
I'm backing up here.
2014 is when we did that.
When was I vice president?
1976.
Oh, let me, hang on.
Let me back up.
I'll get the year right at some point.
Oh, 2000 and I'm going to get there.
I promise.
There it is.
Sleepy, creepy, crazy Uncle Joe 30330.
Yeah, that's a really great way to endear yourself to people just by calling them a damn liar, fat.
And, oh, hey, man, you know, you know, you set up my son.
I never set up my son.
No, what you did is you protected your son.
So it allowed him to continue his zero experience job of getting millions for doing nothing that we know of because he has no experience in anything.
And the most revealing thing, you didn't see this on MSDNC.
He's admitting they're state-run TV and they never dare tell people the truth.
But they're all feigning outrage over Donald Trump with not one fact.
Well, one fact witness.
Everyone else opinion witness, hearsay witness, one fact witness.
Well, what would you like them to do to get the money?
Nothing.
No quid or pro or quo like Joe.
Nothing.
Hey, Jack, hey man.
Hey, man, you want to do a push-up contest, man?
Come on.
Come on, let's do a push-up contest.
You can't even believe it.
It's so insane.
We have that story.
We have the congenital liar and compromise corrupt shift that we'll get to too.
We welcome back to the program two friends of the program.
Mark Simone is with us, the host of the 90-noon slot on our New York affiliate.
Hey, 10th and 1.
Don't overwork.
Whatever.
You know, I should have known you only do two hours a day.
Mark, that's tough.
That's tough.
Joe Concha, host of WRR tonight, follows this program in New York.
Three hours, by the way, Sean.
All right, so I challenge Simone not only to a push-up contest, but another hour of radio.
Good luck with that.
He's not going to do it.
I know Simone.
He's richer than...
Honestly, this guy has more money than anybody I know.
Hey, Jack.
Hey, Jack.
Hey, man.
Come on, man.
You know.
So he tweets out today.
Simone does.
Joe Biden attacked an audience member, called him fat, by the way, then they deny it.
Then called him...
Hey, he looks fat.
Look, this is.
Hey, fat.
Then called him too old to vote.
Nobody in the fake news industry covers it.
And that was the big takeaway, Mark, for me.
It's like, oh, he's admitting, no, MSDNC is not going to cover the real quid and pro and quo.
I remember Donald Trump said to the guy, go back to Univision.
He said, go back to mommy.
That was breaking news for six days.
You called somebody fat, somebody old?
This doesn't get mentioned by anybody.
I just want to be a little bit...
Be careful.
You call me fat and old?
Is that what you just said to me?
No, no, no, and I don't want to take on Joe Biden.
This is the guy that stood up to corn pop and bad, bad Leroy Brown and whoever else he fought.
Oh, no, the no Malarkey tour.
Does anyone remember what Malarkey is, Joe Concha?
I asked my great-great-grandfather, and he said that back in the 30s that that was a pretty effective word.
But that's not exactly woke for 2019.
Oh, back in the 30s.
I'm probably to a push-up contest I thought about.
Don't you do arm wrestling?
I mean, don't you guys do that?
I mean, that's the way I settle things.
Yeah, well, I'd kick your ass on that, too.
Oh, my goodness.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm being Joe.
I was joking.
Why are you still taking me seriously?
Karate kid.
No, I figure you would just, you know, chop me to death.
I thought that was your way of people on your Doja.
You have no idea how insulting it is to say karate.
No, that's not what we do.
What we do is an eclectic blend of the arts, and that would include Krav Maga, Kempo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, situational street fighting, firearms, blade, stick training.
That's how we roll.
Listen, Jack.
That's how we roll, Jack.
I hope you're bought numb chucks with you, Mark, because this guy sounds pretty dangerous.
Hey, Linda, would they be smart not to mess with me or not?
I want to mess with you.
She's seen the videos of my training with my son, say, Glenn.
All right, enough about me.
All right, so where does this go, Mark?
What's going to happen?
Well, for all the joking, he called this person fat, and he said, you're too old to vote.
Now, that's an important demographic for voters because senior citizens vote in enormous numbers.
And don't think that didn't register with a lot of people.
Despite who says anything or lets it go or Chuck Todd or those kind of people let it pass, senior citizens heard him insult this guy and say, yeah, you're too old to vote.
You're old and you're sedentary.
He's just attacked his base.
Big time.
Joe Concha, you know, I got to tell you something.
One of the things people, if you look at Donald Trump, he tweets out.
He hits, who does he hit?
He hits the swamp creatures.
He hits the do-nothing Democrats.
He hits weak Republicans.
He hits, again, more swamp people.
Then he hits the mob and the media, fake news.
He's not attacking we the people.
He's fighting for we the people.
He doesn't go to the Washington Correspondents dinner.
No, he usually goes amongst we the smelly Walmart choppers, irredeemable deplorables.
Yeah, look, Sean, the bottom line is that Joe Biden is the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination right now.
He is way past the field in terms of because Elizabeth Warren's falling back so much and Bernie Sanders always stays around the same amount.
He only had a heart attack two months ago, so that's something that probably is.
Now, why are you bringing that up?
You're calling him old.
That's so mean of you to point out that he had a health issue.
I'm sure you did.
You've got heart attacks when you're young, too.
I mean, that happens as well, but I'm just saying that that's obviously.
Well, you're giving me a heart attack.
You know, you're scaring me with all this tower to tech talk.
I'm sorry about that.
But that's why Michael Bloomberg has stepped in because he saw that Joe Biden clearly doesn't have his faculties about him.
He's just simply not a good candidate, right?
I mean, every day we're playing some crazy thing that he says that you just say, how is that even coherent?
So the Democratic Party has some serious problems for starters.
The far left is very angry because there's only white rich guys basically left, right?
I mean, it's crazy.
Billionaires, right?
Steyer and Bloomberg.
And then you have the Russian asset, Tulsi Gabbard, taking out Kamala Harris.
So the left flank of the party is angry.
And then obviously the candidates that are left clearly aren't very good candidates.
So for Donald Trump, you're just going to sit back and watch this go all the way.
I say, save the tape to a brokered convention because no one seems to be able to get a stranglehold on this nomination.
There's no clear frontrunner because there really aren't many good candidates.
They all have big flaws.
What do you make, Mark Simone, on this whole issue?
And we've been reporting on it about the congenital compromise liar known as Adam Schiff because Democrats on the House Intel Committee were claiming their impeachment inquiry report this week that Trump's personal lawyer, former New York City mayor, America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani,
apparently had contact with a phone number for the White House budget office where military aid to Ukraine was temporarily being withheld.
However, well, we're now finding out, yeah, the wrong number.
Yeah.
Whoopsie day.
And look at it this way.
Are they really allowed to get the records and report the records of a journalist?
No.
First of all, nobody has ever called the White House Budget Office.
Nobody wants it.
It's a bunch of boring accountants.
The president wouldn't talk to the White House budget office.
You've known Rudy Giuliani.
I've known him for years.
He is absolutely fanatical about the law.
He's the former deputy attorney general, U.S. Attorney.
He knows every law backwards and forwards.
Whatever he's doing, he doesn't violate laws.
The idea, why is a personal attorney over there?
Every president had that.
Hillary and Bill Clinton had that Sidney Blumenthal over there.
You can go back to FDR who had Harry Hopkins running around the world doing backdoor stuff for him.
So it's perfectly normal.
And you're right.
Schiff getting these phone records.
You know, if you're a journalist, you've got anonymous sources.
You've got Joe Concha.
You know, that's the most protected thing in the world.
If they get your phone records, they identify your anonymous sources.
That's the first way to identify any whistleblower, get phone records.
The fact that AT ⁇ T handed it right over, AT ⁇ T that owns CNN, by the way, that's a major, major breakthrough.
So I think it's a huge break.
Now, I'm getting mixed messages because I didn't even see it.
Somebody said there might have been a Hannity call for 36 seconds.
Was there?
I didn't think that.
I found out, yeah, apparently look at your phone records.
You called this pizza place, you called.
Exactly.
I don't even have access to any of my social media and haven't for like a year and a half.
And the funny thing is, you know, I'm like, oh, it's 5 o'clock on a Friday.
All of your text messages from 2017 with Paul Manafort just hit the wire.
Do you have any comment?
I'm like, you think I remember what I said yesterday?
Joe Concha.
Yeah, 36 seconds.
That sounds, Mark, you hit on the head.
That sounds like a pizza call.
I mean, what else takes 36 seconds, honestly?
So I call Mario's.
I give a lot of detail about how I want my cauliflower crust pizza.
Well, there you go.
That's good to hear.
Yeah, look, I don't see any outrage over this as far as Adam Schiff and with John Solomon, for instance.
What are his First Amendment rights as far as being a reporter?
Why are his calls being pulled?
And we saw this with the Obama administration when they pulled thousands of phone records from the Associated Press.
They spied on James Rosen, called him a flight risk, spied on his parents.
So I keep hearing how horrible President Trump is to the press, but all I know is he's more accessible to the press than any president in history in terms of just doing straight question and answer.
He circumvents his press secretary.
That's fine.
Let's hear from the horse's mouth anyway.
And then when you go back to the horrible treatment of the press, you got to look at Obama and the way that he treated reporters.
And now we're seeing the same thing with Adam Schiff.
And as usual, we're not hearing how this is a threat to the fourth estate because it's a Democrat doing it.
Well, you know, I got to tell you, Mark, I think that's all a good point.
But the idea that we're going to go after, for example, we're talk show hosts, all three of us.
All right, so what?
We do straight news, right?
How many hours can you produce of straight news, breaking story?
We're giving you the facts.
That's it.
Then we do investigative reporting, you know, vetting Obama or the deep state, right?
Then we do opinion.
We're very upfront about it.
Then we do sports some days.
You do a lot of sports.
I am, yeah.
And then we do culture.
But we're like the whole newspaper.
We are the press.
And the fact that they do this to John Solomon means that we're dead.
I mean, if you don't like what a talk show is saying, what, we're going to now subpoena your phone records and go to these phone companies and steal it.
Somebody's got to really bring this up and take this to court because this is a way to out every whistleblower ever.
And Adam Schiff pretends to be the defender of whistleblowers when he has committed the most serious violation.
A first step a whistleblower takes is to pick up the phone.
If that's not going to work anymore, that's the end of it.
It's a non-whistleblower.
Here's a whistleblower.
Anyway, 800 941, Sean, we'll get to your calls coming up.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
If this is a counterintelligence investigation, who are they trying to protect?
Who should they be trying to protect?
Well, if it's the threat outlined in the friendly foreign government information, you would be looking to protect the election process, which would include the campaign, the candidate, and the American people.
Okay, so did they ever brief Hillary Clinton about efforts to foreign influences involving her campaign?
Do you know?
I've heard that, but I don't know for a fact.
They did.
Good for them.
And they stopped it.
Was there ever a defensive briefing given by the FBI, the Department of Justice, to Donald Trump about the concerns?
There was not.
What would you call a counterintelligence investigation that never had a protective element?
I'm not sure.
Sorry, Mr. Chairman.
Okay, if without eventually trying to protect the entity being influenced, is it legitimate?
It would depend on each fact and circumstance.
Here's what I'm trying to tell you.
If you're opening up a counterintelligence investigation to protect somebody, you should do it.
Did they ever try to protect Donald Trump from foreign influence?
They did not brief him in.
Is it fair to say that President Obama and his inner circle knew a lot more about the dossier and the scope of the investigation than President-elect Trump and his team?
No, I don't think that's fair at all.
You think that they were equal as far as the briefing?
As far as I know, they knew the same set of facts, as did the leaders of Congress.
There was no difference between what the FBI told the FISA court and what the Trump about the Trump-Russia investigation and what you told the new president of the United States.
What the FBI and the FISA application said in October of 2016, I don't remember clearly enough all that's in the FISA application, but we sure didn't lay that out for anybody, President Obama, President-elect Trump, or the leaders of Congress.
Oh, another Comey lie, higher loyalty.
Huh Jim, Mr. Superpatriot?
Wow, pretty devastating.
All of which we're going to highlight tonight, like we did last night.
We highlighted all of Schiff's lies.
24 now to the top of the hour joining us now.
Jay Seculo, he is a counsel to the president, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
You know, Jay, you've been a part of our coverage as well.
You have been part of this ensemble team.
You've watched us unpeal the layer of the onion.
Everything we said has now been confirmed.
Premeditated fraud perpetrated on a FISA court using as the basis of their application a dirty, of all things, Russian dossier that we now know is unverifiable, the word verified at the top of that application.
James Comey signed three of them.
What James Comey just said there is factually inaccurate, a lie.
He's been caught in a lot of lies in all of this.
Well, you know, it's interesting about James Comey because one of the things that Horowitz said, Lindsey Graham, who's done a great job on this, asked the question about, you know, individual James Comey's being vindicated by your report.
And Horowitz said, nobody who touched this should be deemed vindicated by my report.
So I think that was number one.
I knew this was going to happen.
I knew as soon as Horowitz were to testify and explain what he wrote in those 470 pages that the truth would come out.
But one of the ones that's getting overlooked was a question that Lindsey Graham asked Horowitz.
He said, was the FBI agent spying on Donald Trump when he went in there?
In other words, an FBI agent was sent in purportedly to brief the president.
Horowitz, it was a pretext meeting, the process by which they have to do these meetings.
And then he says, and this is what's so interesting about this, if you don't have a, Graham says, if you don't have a foundation for a warrant, then you can't just pick up and go.
And Horowitz says the incident, the event, the meeting was a briefing, and the FBI considered and decided to send that agent there to do the briefing.
So the agent was actually doing the briefing, but was also using it for the purpose of investigation.
That is outrageous.
That is spying on Donald J. Trump.
There's no, I mean, and there it is in black and white.
Then, Christopher Steele, is it fair to say that there was a political, that Steele had a bias against Donald Trump?
And then he goes through the whole, how it was paid for, paid for by the Democratic Party.
It was unreal.
Well, I think all of it is.
I mean, and this is the point.
Let me go back to Michael Horowitz saying that the IG report did not vindicate anyone who touched this, which was the main talking point of the media mob when this thing came out.
But he's only looking at this in a very narrow, he has a narrow purview here, like he's in a bubble because his authority only extends to the FBI and to the DOJ.
The FBI, former FBI director James Comey said this week that your report vindicates him.
Is that a fair assessment of your report?
You know, I think the activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched this.
I mean, Sean, that's what I was saying.
It doesn't vindicate anybody, and now we've got Durham who's really looking at all of this.
So I think the reality is that these guys, like you said, the right to remain silent.
I would be quiet if I were these guys.
And then, of course, what's happened, the FISA abuse, the abuse, by the way, on the court itself is breathtaking.
Breathtaking.
Why have we not heard from the FISA court judges that were, well, lied to repeatedly and given false information?
Because the law also requires...
Let's go back.
I want to play for you first as I ask this question.
And I want to play for you what Rod Rosenstein has to say about the FISA warrants.
And it's an affidavit, career law enforcement, and you have to have it verified.
And you swear to the best of your knowledge it's true.
And we now know it was unverifiable from the get-go.
Through the prism of this, I want you to answer that question.
The way we operate in the Department of Justice, if we can accuse somebody of wrongdoing, we have to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses.
We need to prepare to prove our case in court.
And we have to affix our signature to the charging document.
That's something that not everybody appreciates.
There's a lot of talk about FISA applications.
And many people that I see talking about it seem not to recognize what a FISA application is.
A FISA application is actually a warrant, just like a search warrant.
In order to get a FISA search warrant, you need an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the information in the affidavit is true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief.
And that's the way we operate.
And if it's wrong, sometimes it is, if you find out there's anything incorrect in there, that person is going to face consequences.
Now, when you hear that, and now we know it's unverifiable, we know they never went back and corrected the record, and they just doubled down on something that was nothing but pure nonsense to secure these warrants to backdoor,
as Bill Barr said, into everything World Trump, which is the campaign, the transition team, and deep into his presidency.
Well, I think that's right.
I mean, this is the whole problem.
I mean, the entire process from start to bottom on this was outrageous.
You know, Sean, there's another asset.
You laid it out very well, but there's another aspect of this.
This lawyer they talked about that doctored the email to the FISA court, guess whose team he worked on?
Bob Mueller.
It's a great point.
So let me ask you what you think happens here.
Now, I'll go back a little bit because Bill Barr, I think this interview that he did with both, well, Pete Williams at NBC and then later with the Wall Street Journal and the claims of collusion against Trump were baseless.
And it's inexplicable that Obama and Brennan talked to the Russians, but they wouldn't talk to Trump, a point that Lindsey Graham made.
And the IG scope is narrow.
And as we learned today, Horowitz did not decide about improper motive with the limited information he had.
And, you know, one big fact that I found interesting is Comey refused to re-up his classification to be asked about such matters.
And the FBI withheld information from the courts.
They relied on the bought and paid for a sham dossier that was unverifiable.
And, you know, and it went on, and the FBI case fell apart.
And then add to that, Jay, they withheld exculpatory evidence.
And add to that, that they actually altered information that they presented to the court.
So here's what Bill Barr says, the Attorney General in the United States.
He said they hid information about the lack of reliability, even when they went the first time for the warrant.
But in January, he says, after the election, the entire case collapsed when the principal source says, I never told Steele this stuff.
And this was all speculation.
And I have zero information to support this stuff.
At that point, when their entire case collapsed, what did they do?
They kept on investigating the president well into his administration.
This is the indictment of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bruce Orr, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and then go back a step further and others we don't even know who they are.
How is it possible we went through the Mueller investigation and they didn't find this?
And then, you know, I said that on my broadcast: $40 million, 40 FBI agents, 18 lawyers, and they didn't know any of this.
We did get a little hit.
Remember that little note in the report about a lawyer being removed from the, but they said he was a functionary.
Not really, evidently.
Look, I think Bob Mueller was absent without leave.
And I think he let the prosecutors run the shop.
And look what you got.
Look at those articles of impeachment, if you want to call them that.
You know, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress for exercising your constitutional privileges.
You talk about weak.
That's not even realistic.
But you know what is realistic?
Bob Mueller's report's not in it.
You know, that's such an interesting point.
All right.
So where do you see when as I don't think the Attorney General would be saying what he said in these interviews?
I don't think that Durham would be saying what he's been saying without them having locked down evidence already that is damning about a much broader, much wider conspiracy and that has taken them across the pond to Great Britain,
Italy, and other countries, which I believe in the end is going to, you know, as Jim Jordan said, we had four people spied on.
We thought only two or three.
But no, now we have more.
But more importantly, did they outsource spying on Americans to friendly intelligence agencies, allied agencies, for the purpose of circumventing American law?
So I think John Durham's statement is the best statement.
He says he has the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mike Harwitz and the staff.
However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department.
That's very important.
We're not limited to just speaking to people at DOJ who will agree to speak to them.
Our investigation, talking about Durham's investigation, has included, and this is important, our investigation included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S., based on the evidence collected to date.
And while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report's conclusion as to the predication and how the FBI case was opened.
Where's this all going?
We'll ask Jay Seculo on the other side of the break.
When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco.
Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, our final moments with Jay Seculo, Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice and the Counsel to the President.
All right, so I guess sometime in the spring or early summer, we're going to get the Durham Report.
In the interim, is it likely?
Do you hear, as you read between the lines, all these years you spent as a lawyer?
High profile, 20-some-odd cases argued before the U.S. Supreme Court.
What is Barr and Durham signaling in their statements this week?
That they're doing a comprehensive investigation that goes beyond the scope of what the Inspector General had authority to conduct and capability to conduct.
So I think what you have here is you're going to see a U.S. attorney that has really turned over every rock.
And we are going to find out what took place here, not only the irregularities, many of which have been pointed out by Horowitz, but how this originated, why it was wrong when it was originated, and who's going to be ultimately held accountable.
I think there's going to be a lot of accountability.
Well, I think there needs to be.
Jay, they nearly were successful in undoing a duly elected president as presidency.
They haven't given up yet, although these articles of impeachment basically are a give up.
But look, they tried.
They continue to try, and the president's remained strong.
And the Mueller report went nowhere.
These articles of impeachment in the Senate will go nowhere.
And that's going to be the end of this.
And then we'll be on to the next fight.
Do I think they stop fighting this president?
No, I do not.
They're talking about if he wins re-election after he's not convicted in the Senate, well, we'll impeach him again, even if the American people vote to put him back in office.
I think that the risk factor, I think that's a lot of talk and a lot of yakking and a big mistake.
Well, don't you think there's nothing here either, Jay?
First it was a quid and a pro and a quo, but that was really only Joe.
And then bribery and extortion, and then they reduce it to the, oh, well, the executive branch is protecting executive privilege and they're seeking remedy.
What do you want to tell you about abuse of power?
You want an abuse of power?
Professor Charlie said this.
He's 100% correct.
I'll tell you what an abuse of power is.
Writing up an article of impeachment about obstruction of Congress when you're exercising your constitutional rights, the Supreme Court in a long line of cases has said you cannot be penalized for exercising rights you have under the United States.
Well, Jay, when you have three branches of government and the executive and the legislative branch are in conflict, well, that would be the purpose of seeking remedy in the judicial branch.
That's called...
Listen, on Friday, we're going to find out because I've got, as you know, Sean, three cases for the president, two up there on substance, one up there on a stay, which may be converted to an order.
And those cases may well, we may know Friday.
I think we will know Friday if they're going to hear them or not.
And they will be the three biggest cases the Supreme Court has ever taken, if they take them, on the issue of presidential authority, Article 2, separation of powers.
All right, Jay Seculo, counsel for the president, chief counsel, American Center for Law and Justice.
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All right, as we continue, Doug Collins, Congressman, should have been senator, I guess, from the great state of Georgia.
What do you know about Kelly Lofner?
I know the issue of life in particular is important to you.
Yeah, I don't know.
Frankly, I'll be honest with you.
I've met her once a couple of times that most in passing.
Hi, how are you doing?
I don't know enough.
I mean, if she is going to be, she's going to have to, you know, those are questions she's going to have to answer.
But I do know about life from myself because I have a daughter named Jordan.
Sean, and Jordan is, she's 27 years old now.
She has spina bifida.
She hasn't walked a day in her life, but she's traveled with her smile on herself more than anything.
But I can remember back when Lisa and I were excited.
She was our first, and we found out something was going to be wrong.
And Lisa went to school, and one of the teachers came up to her and said, you know, you got choices.
And Lisa thought that she meant doctors and stuff like that.
And Lisa said, yeah, we're trying to go to Atlanta.
And the lady said, no, no, you're not understanding, dear.
You don't have to go through with this.
You have choices.
And Lisa looked at her and said, you're talking about my baby.
Well, that little baby is my daughter, Jordan.
And she's 27.
She has her daddy wrapped around her finger.
And she texts me from work every day when she goes to work at the hospital.
She comes home.
Don't tell me that life doesn't matter.
Life matters from the beginning, conception to natural death.
And that's just something that is personal for me.
Everybody else has to answer for themselves.
I'm trying to stand on where I am.
And Sean, I know you've always been a strong advocate for that.
But it's just personal for me.
Jordan is a living example of what happens in life.
What an inspiring story about you and your wife and your daughter.
And that's pretty amazing.
You ever think, Congressman, we'd be debating, well, we'll deliver the baby and make the baby comfortable, and then we'll let the mother decide.
And then 10 states are actually arguing this crap.
Yeah.
Look, we've deprived, liberalism has deprived us into a society where we feel that life is a commodity.
It doesn't matter.
And if we can make moral justifications on life, as it doesn't matter, it's whatever's right in the person's own eyes.
I think I remember that scripture somewhere that everybody did what was right in their own eyes, then there is no moral authority.
And God is our gifter of life.
That's what I believe.
And then when we begin that we can take it just for convenience or because, you know, the worst case is for me because they don't like, it's very personal for me because they think their child has a physical deformity, they're going to kill it.
And, you know, as I heard in one of the, in Sweden or somewhere, they're doing away with Down syndrome.
You know how they're doing it?
They're killing the kids in the womb.
That's how they're doing away with Down syndrome.
That's just wrong.
Life is a precious issue.
And, you know, from our perspective and your perspective, that's just something we fight for.
You know, I've come to get to know you in the last number of months, and I've watched you courageously release transcripts that nobody else would do.
And I admire you for it.
And I admire and thank you in advance because I know you're going to be a rock star tomorrow and every day hereafter as we fight back this impeachment Ukrainian coup conspiracy attempt.
Congressman Doug Collins, thank you, sir.
Would have been great to call you senator next time, but whatever, I guess you don't win them all.
When we come back, Ollie North.
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Joe Biden, well, I've spent a lot of time with Kim Jong.
No, you didn't.
And then, of course, my favorite.
I have hairy legs and whatever this means.
And by the way, you know, I sit on the stand and it get hot.
I got a lot of, I got hairy legs that turn that turn blonde in the sun.
And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was trading and then watch the hair come back up again.
They look at it.
So I learned about roaches.
I learned about kids jumping on my lap.
And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.
All right, joining us now, a good friend of the program.
You know, I want to go back, though, before I get to Ollie North here in a second.
You know, this executive so-called summary, this is the single most corrupt thing that I have ever seen in terms of an absolute power grab coup attempt.
And the president conditioned a White House meeting and military aid to Ukraine on public announcement.
No, that has not been true.
The president's obstruction of the House of Representatives impeachment inquiry.
No, it is called executive privilege.
The president conditioned a White House meeting and military aid to Ukraine in a public announcement of investigations beneficial to his reelection campaign.
No, that would be Quidd, and that would be Quo, and that would be Joe that did all of that, not Donald J. Trump.
The president removed anti-corruption champion Ambassador Jovanovich.
Yeah, every president has the right to appoint their ambassadors.
Obama did it how many times?
The president's hand-picked agents begin the scheme.
What does that mean?
His hand-picked agents.
I don't even know.
They got the money even this weekend.
The president of Ukraine said what I told you he said.
And that is, I have absolutely zero knowledge of what's going on here.
Anyway, Ollie North is with us.
You know, one of the things that inspired me to do what I do today was watching Ollie North, John Poindexter, a guy by the name of Brendan Sullivan, a bunch of arrogant elitists in the establishment,
beat up this decorated war hero.
Oh, you had Fawn Hall was your secretary, and you bought lingerie at a lingerie shop.
And he's like, I don't know.
I never bought anybody lingerie.
And then, oh, his wife reminds him, yeah, you picked up Liotards for your daughter's dance recital.
Amazing moments, and the country saw it.
Now the country's seeing it again.
There's nobody with better perspective.
Now, Ollie also happens to be one of my dearest friends.
Love him.
And he's one of the best writers.
I've read every book he's ever written.
And he's got a brand new novel out, by the way.
He's the number one New York Times best-selling author, decorated war veteran.
And it's called The Rifleman.
And he'll tell us about that as well today.
How are you, sir?
I am glad to be with you again, my friend.
Thank you.
Now, you've lived this.
You've seen this.
I was listening to you on the introduction and, of course, the kinds of things that are happening.
And look, you and I are both a little bit older than the average listener that you've got today.
So very few of them were really witting of what transpired in almost every single case of a special prosecutor and a Congress that believes that they can essentially impeach and remove a president.
And back in the 1980s, right after Admiral Poindexter and I were reassigned back to the Pentagon, it was December, if I recall correctly, 19th, 1986.
I mean, I could see your listeners going, wait a minute, that was a thousand years ago.
Lawrence Walsh was appointed as an independent counsel to investigate the Iran-Contra affair.
Walsh immediately made it known that he considered his job was to produce evidence leading to impeaching President Ronald Reagan.
In the summer of 1987, seven months later, a special Iran-Contra bipartisan special committee was comprised of members of both parties, both houses of Congress, and they held open and closed hearings.
Sound familiar?
Yep.
I mean, this is unreal.
Many politicians and pundits concluded that these dual investigations would lead to President Reagan's impeachment and his removal from office because the House was controlled by Democrats throughout the entire Reagan-Bush administrations,
all the way back to 1977 before Ronald Reagan was even elected.
And despite the best efforts of all the House Democrats and the independent counsel, Walsh, so-called, I call him a special prosecutor, neither President Reagan nor President Bush were impeached.
Here's why.
Because the Democrats of the House were fearful of repeating what happened in the televised hearings in the summer of 1987 when a U.S. Navy admiral and a Marine Lieutenant Colonel devastated them with the facts, the truth, the whole truth,
nothing but the truth.
And their whole argument that President Reagan had committed impeachable offenses evaporated.
Afterwards, and you and I remember this man, Henry Hyde, a lion of the House, even though he's in the minority for all those years, told me the Democrat members of the House Judiciary Committee, guess who's meeting today?
Yesterday they had their first open discussion of this thing, and today they're getting ready for the first open hearings of the Judiciary Committee.
Henry Hyde said the Democrats leading the House Judiciary Committee were horrified at the prospect of Oliver North and Admiral Poindexter testifying again on national television because without any hubris in it, we handed them their butts.
In the spring of 1988, Walsh said he could take care of the problem.
He was so disconcerted at the prospect of Reagan getting off the hook, he offered me, nobody's heard this before.
It's not in my first book about this whole occasion.
And you're getting to cover this story first.
He offered me a deal.
Walsh asked me to come to his office where he showed me, and you mentioned his name, Brendan Sullivan, a lengthy indictment that he'd prepared against me, 23 counts.
And then he said, this won't happen if you'll sign this under oath.
And he handed me the draft of a statement in which I would accuse President Reagan of lying in his deposition to the special prosecutor.
I asked him if I could think about it overnight.
And he said, yes, certainly.
As long as you promise, make no copies and not divulge it to anybody that this is a deal.
And, of course, I did exactly what I said.
I took it back and agreed I'd return the following morning with an answer.
We went back to the skiff, and without getting into things like divulging what my lawyer had told me, I ran the document through a brand new shredder that turns pieces of paper into tiny little pieces of confetti, put the confetti into a plastic bag,
and the next day returned to Walsh's office and handed him the plastic bag and dumped it out on the table.
Wow.
The following day, he indicted me.
He indicted me with all 23 counts.
Nearly four years later, the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled I had been improperly tried.
They went all the way to the Supreme Court.
They refused to reverse the Court of Appeals, and the three counts that were remaining against me after the trial were dismissed by the trial judge, and not one person was jailed for criminal acts connected in any way to Iran-Contra.
Now, think about what that means.
They spent over $45 million, had 40 some-odd lawyers, not counting the ones in the House committee, by the way, the Joint House Senate Committee.
And so Walsh still made one last try to get then-President George W. Bush.
Just four days before the 1992 election, Walsh indicted former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, an event that many believed helped seriously damage the President Bush's hopes for reelection.
Here's the bottom line.
President Trump now faces the same kind of attacks, an independent counsel, meaning Mueller, a hostile media, a rapidly crazed Congress, and I gave him my prediction.
My prediction is this, the House will impeach him.
The Senate will not convict him.
He will not be removed from office.
He will then get re-elected, and the Republicans will recover and recapture the House of Representatives.
I believe that that's going to happen.
The model for that kind of tenacity and courage is in that book, The Rifleman.
It's the kind of thing that's very appropriate because the Rifleman includes the same kind of thing, an inept and confused Congress, efforts to remove the Commander-in-Chief.
I mean, think about this.
Washington's appointed as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army, which didn't exist until the 14th of June, 1775.
And there's already efforts underway in the Congress of the brand new Congress, the Second Continental Congress, as it's called, to remove him from office.
And that kind of thing is going to continue right today because there is so much corruption.
You used the exact right word.
There is so much corruption in Washington, D.C., now our nation's capital.
It wasn't then.
Philadelphia was.
The Capitol almost breeds corruption around it.
The odor of corruption is rampant in this Congress and in Washington, D.C.
The president calls the swamp a swamp.
I would have called it a sewer.
I am stunned at everything that I'm listening to here.
I hope people are listening closely as I am to everything that you're saying.
Look, I could talk to you all day about all of this, but let me move on.
And first of all, this novel is, I mean, it's a page turner.
It's gripping.
And it's just, you know, this is where your mind goes, but people got to remember when you went to Iran, you did have a suicide pill.
You do have a purple heart.
You have served your country.
So that's the man that I know.
And you take that experience and then you put it in a novel form.
And I got to tell you, I think this is one of your best works.
Well, you kind of say so.
I appreciate the fact that you said so before and you're saying so right now.
By the way, tonight, right after you finish your TV show, so 10 p.m. Eastern Times, we're doing a live book signing.
I wouldn't dare start it before your show is over tonight.
So a live book signing.
People can, if they want, they can get a lot of people.
I'm going to remind people to go.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
RiflemanBook.com.
It's real simple.
In other words, a live book signing is they can cue riflemanbook.com and they go there, they'll see you and they'll talk to you and you'll sign books, you'll personalize them, whatever they want.
And because you're talking about it, well, it'll sell a lot of books.
I appreciate it.
And they'll get them in time for Christmas.
That's the big thing.
You know what?
That's amazing, actually.
All right.
Ollie North, we love you.
RiflemanBook.com tonight, 10 Eastern.
I'll remind everybody as we're ending the show tonight.
I really appreciate who you are.
And it's sad what you went through, but the experience, for those that don't remember, that didn't live it like I did and you did, you lived it a lot more than me.
It's invaluable wisdom that you're imparting on the people.
And we appreciate all you do.
Appreciate you.
Appreciate you too, my friend, because you're the voice of reason in the midst of this craziness in Washington.
Thank you.
All right, my friend.
Appreciate you.
RiflemanBook.com.
Merry Christmas, Colonel.
You're the best.
Merry Christmas to you two brothers.
Semper Phi.
Semperfidelus, Marine.
Always faithful.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfook from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
When did you realize that the Epstein family needed help?
Well, I was asked by the brother, the next of kin, to be at the autopsy.
And at the autopsy on day one, there were findings that were unusual for suicidal hanging and more consistent with ligature, homicidal strangulation, which included.
And it was suggested at the time that he committed suicide by doing what?
By hanging, at the time he was found allegedly hanging by a homemade ligature of sheets.
Are you saying you don't think it was suicide?
I think that the evidence points toward homicide rather than suicide.
Why?
Because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid bone, the thyroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide and more indicative of strangulation, homicidal strangulation.
All right, that was our friend, Dr. Michael Baden.
He was there, hired by the Epstein family to observe the autopsy of Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, I'm not an expert in forensics or pathology or autopsies.
You know, I've watched all those shows.
I'm fascinated by it.
I mean, he was the former New York medical examiner for all these years.
He's been involved in a lot of high-profile cases.
I know Baden to be a very honorable, honest guy who's great at what he does.
The only thing that gives me a little pause is that they say there was one camera that did work because the other two didn't, apparently.
And then we have the records that, you know, these guys, I guess, prison guards are supposed to check on these guys every half hour.
Maybe I'm sympathetic because I know my mother, as a prison guard for 25 years, had to work 16-hour shifts every day, and you had no choice.
You would lose your job if you didn't do 16-hour shifts.
And this would go on for 60 days in a row before she got a day off.
I mean, literally, I'm sure you're standing and falling asleep.
But, you know, so I'm not, I feel bad for those guys because they got charged in this, caught up in this.
I don't think they did anything wrong in this.
There's no indication at all.
But there are a lot of questions here that really are scary.
Anyway, Dylan Howard is an investigative journalist, author, and he's written a brand new book, and it's eye-opening.
It's called Epstein, Dead Men Tell No Tales, Spies, Lies, and Betrayal.
Wow.
And anyway, I'm reading your book, and you've got a lot of details in here that make me ask a lot of questions.
Well, Sean, I've been investigating this case for five years, long before Jeffrey Epstein either committed suicide or was murdered.
So I'm stacked with document after document after document that is a meticulously researched look at Jeffrey Epstein's life and how he was able to get away with the crimes that he did for so very long.
In fact, I'm actually suing the FBI under Freedom of Information laws for them to release their full case file on Epstein so that this cover-up can no longer continue.
Tell us the, give us the general premise of your investigative work, and you've been doing this for five years.
Start with the basics.
We hear Lolita Express, Orgy Island, as it's been dubbed by the New York Cowboys.
Is that true?
Absolutely.
Jeffrey Epstein had the largest townhouse.
He was a pedophile.
He was a pedophile.
Convicted.
Convicted in Florida in 2005 and sentenced to a sweetheart deal.
Sweetheart deal money.
How did he get away with that question?
That is the first of the questions that I asked.
Answer that question.
Well, in typical scenarios like this, the FBI, when they investigate, it's a federal crime, which means the FBI director at the time was none other than James Comey.
Instead, the matter was deferred to local authorities, and he got a sweetheart deal.
One year with probation that allowed him to be able to exit jail and actually continue work with prison guards.
So he'd leave every day and continue working.
And go to his office.
And he was home on weekends.
Correct.
Wow.
The absolute most sweetheart of deals, which begs the question, why did federal authorities turn this over to the state authorities who gave him the sweetheart deal?
Well, can you believe, in the course of my investigation, I came up with a document that actually suggested, and Epstein rejected this, that he would get away with serving no jail time.
So that asks you the question, why was he being protected?
Why was he being given all of these benefits that someone who had abused more than 32 young women, why was he able to get these sweetheart deals?
Well, I mean, I think that's a great point because, and in that case, he pled to this.
That was a plea deal.
He pled to this.
Okay, and he pled to abusing minors.
Correct.
It was under state law.
Then, of course, in 2019, on return from Paris, where he had another residence, he was arrested at Teterborough Airport on federal crimes.
His legal team had attempted to argue that double jeopardy would apply, but there is a difference between state and federal, so the feds then went after him.
That, of course, led to the latest controversy and ultimately his death.
We watched the disaster that was Prince Andrew's press conference.
Others obviously are caught up in this net.
Bill Clinton probably chief among them.
How accurate is the reporting that they were involved in all of this?
Well, first of all, with Prince Andrew, let me tell you, he's lying through his teeth.
Well, we caught him in seven lies already.
So he does sweat.
He does touch women, even though he's a royal.
So we actually spoke to somebody who worked at the New Mexico ranch who said that another young woman was specifically told to service Prince Andrew at the Santa Fe, New Mexico ranch.
This woman had never spoken until this book.
And she says that Prince Andrew had to be given 24-7 concierge service, if you like, at the behest of Jeffrey Epstein.
Now you've got an instance where he's trying to plead away his innocence by saying he had to come to New York to break up the bromance, if you like, with Jeffrey Epstein, which is just an inconceivable thought.
So the depth of depravity with Prince Andrew goes far deeper.
Is that why he was reluctant to say pedophile?
Oh, I didn't want to use a boorish term.
I mean, it's like, really?
Absolutely.
There's no doubt about that.
Now, with regards to the Clintons, the Clintons have tried to fend away their association with Jeffrey Epstein.
But what everybody ought to know is that Ghislaine Maxwell, who was the woman who was his ex-girlfriend and supposedly one of the individuals who helped procure these young women for Jeffrey Epstein, attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2009.
This is the Madame, what's her name?
She obviously denies that she was a madam, but has certainly accused madam.
But certainly her relationship to the Clintons was well known, and she was involved in the Clinton Foundation.
One of the more interesting things, however, is the Lolita Express that you mentioned earlier.
This was a plane that I've seen on board.
This is a plane.
How did you get on board that?
I didn't get on board.
I saw photos.
Okay, just checking.
I was just checking, Dylan.
I might have to put you on the cover of one of your tablets.
It looks more like an adult film set than it does a private jet.
This is plush, lounges, not the type of private jet service.
You mean with real seats?
No.
No, they're like cordoned off areas with beds.
Correct.
So it lived up to its status as the Low Leader Express.
And in fact, in the book, we actually print some of the images from inside that.
By the way, people need to see it because it's pretty shocking.
It is shocking.
But nevertheless, let me tell you about the Low Liter Express.
Bill Clinton has insisted that he only went on a handful of trips with Jeffrey Epstein.
Well, that's an out-and-out lie.
Do we know the number?
Because it's ranged anywhere between 3 and 26.
What I can tell you is that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's jet 13 times during an eight-day overseas outing.
They were routinely joined by other controversial characters, including the Hollywood actor Kevin Spacey and many others flying right around the world.
Now, this is not to say that in any way Bill Clinton did anything wrong.
In all, I believe he did 27 trips on the Lolita Express.
Wow.
But here is the premise of the new book.
And the truth is often stranger than fiction.
There is a shocking story behind Jeffrey Epstein and one that is backed up by interviews that I conducted with various individuals as part of this book, including a former Israeli spy.
They say that Jeffrey Epstein was work for hire for international espionage organizations.
I heard the mossad.
I don't believe that.
Well, Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell's father, was a media mogul who ran the Mirror newspaper group and was assassinated at the back of his boat.
Yes, indeed.
He also owned the New York Daily News, I believe, at one point.
According to Ari Ben Mashali, who is a former Israeli spy, he was Robert Maxwell's handler.
And in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein inherited the business.
I've also seen photos.
Well, let me just, because people have wondered, where did he get all this money?
There's been some questions.
It's been one of the fascinating questions.
How does a guy amass a $600 million fortune without a job?
He admitted to people that he was a bounty hunter, that he worked for Adnan Khashoggi, who was an international arms dealer, and many others collecting big bounty debts.
When did he admit that?
He would tell people in private circles that this is what he would do.
I've seen photos inside.
I've seen photos inside the New York townhouse.
Not only is it littered with these weird and odd photos of Bill Clinton in a blue dress wearing high heels.
Let me tell you, the artwork is creepy.
A disembodied and immobile woman.
Then you got the pictures of the bathroom.
You got the, I guess, the...
It's frightening.
This guy was.
Orgy Island.
You have a picture of what you call a massage chain, three women, and he's getting massaged as he sits there.
Every room in that house had a camera.
I've looked at over 200 images of inside that home.
Every room had a camera and was recording into a central, another room that was like a security facility.
Next to that was an office with multiple Xerox machines.
So everything that was being recorded was being printed.
Why will someone do you believe that exists today?
I believe it exists in the home if it hasn't been dismantled.
Well, how could they not have gone through it by now?
We know that we have images of the FBI all over Orgy Island.
Absolutely.
And that is the question.
The FBI in Florida.
Florida has what's called the Sunshine Law State.
They release every piece of evidence.
In the Jeffrey Epstein case, they haven't released any piece of evidence.
They haven't released the cachet of documents or DVDs or anything like that that they established.
And that's why I've been in a three-year legal battle with the FBI to release this information because if there was a cover-up, we want to know who's involved.
All right, stay right there.
We continue.
Dylan Howard is with us.
Investigative journalist, Dead Man Tell No Tales, Epstein, Spies, Lies, and Blackmail.
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All right, as we continue, Dylan Howard in studio with us.
He'll also join us on TV.
We're going to show some of the Epstein photos exclusive that he has in his book.
It's called Epstein, Dead Men Tell No Tales, Spies, Lies, and Blackmail.
We've got his brand new book on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
All right, we'll get into this more tonight on TV, but I want to ask you this.
We heard from Michael Biden.
We know.
Look, it's kind of hard to hang yourself when you're not actually hanging.
Now, I know that's possible.
That is scientifically proven.
But when Biden has suspicions, I trust him.
He didn't say 100%.
He said maybe 80%.
He doesn't think he killed.
He thinks he killed.
He does not think he killed himself.
Sorry.
What do you think?
Most victims' rights advocates in this case do not believe that he committed suicide, that it was murder.
Now, there's no definitive proof, but there is suspicious circumstances and intrigue around this.
Why were cameras not working?
Why did they miss certain checks during the course of the night?
Nothing at all.
They missed a lot of checks.
Two of the cameras, as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, were out.
What about the one camera supposedly that was dead on that would have shown somebody entering the cell?
Well, this is the whole thing.
We don't know.
The DOJ insists this was a simple case of suicide.
We don't trust anybody anymore after all the Russia crap, do we?
The hardest place to kill yourself is prison because the sheets are so small and the sheets are so light.
How do you know so much about prison?
I've interviewed far too many people behind prison.
Yeah.
Behind prison walls.
So it begs the question, did he have the means and motives to kill himself?
Was he able to be given the chance to kill himself?
That's clear.
I think that part's been established.
The question I want to know is, is there in existence a tape?
The other thing I want to know is, he said all these bedrooms at Orgy Island were videotaped.
I want to know if they found that information.
Well, the government has not released any details of their raid of Little St. John Island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Orgy Island, it's easier to say.
Or what they found inside the New York penthouse.
Or Santa Fe.
So we have two months for the FBI to respond to my freedom of information lawsuit.
And what is critical to that is determining what took place.
How did he get a sweetheart deal?
And could this have been prevented?
Because that's the great tragedy of all of this.
Young women were abused.
A sex trafficking ring was able to operate.
Why, how, and who allowed that to happen?
I share your passion.
You know what?
I'm kind of libertarian in people, adults' lives.
Leave children alone.
Absolutely.
All right, Dylan Howard, fascinating read.
Epstein, dead men tell no tales.
Spies, lies, blackmail.
It'll be interesting to see.
Come back when your Freedom of Information Act request is acted on.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
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So you know that we have now aligned ourselves with our good friends at Nine Line Apparel.
Now, this is a veteran-owned, operated company.
If you want to get your quid, no quid, or get hashtag quid proquojo, those t-shirts are up there on Hannity.com.
They're amazing.
And by the way, they got involved very early to help Eddie Gallagher.
If you remember the Navy SEAL, one of three men pardoned recently by President Trump after Thanksgiving.
Anyway, so Eddie and Tyler and Tyler Merritt is the CEO and founder of Nine Line Apparel.
They've teamed up and literally are here to tell us about Eddie's retirement from the military, the next phase of his career working with our friends, our partners at Nine Line.
By the way, if you want to see the great gear, great Christmas gifts, just go to Hannity.com.
And they have their brand new salty frog gear line.
And by the way, their charity work, which is amazing.
Anyway, Eddie met Tyler once on deployment, but it wasn't until Eddie's case became public that the two men were fully acquainted and become friends.
And during the course of the case, Nine Line was there to help and speak up for him when, frankly, very few people would.
I got to give a shout out to people like Bernie Carrick and Pete Hegseth and a bunch of others, too.
Anyway, quote, they treated us like gold, Eddie said.
It opened my eyes that the brotherhood goes on.
And there was a big fight even after the president set Eddie free in this case.
Oh, then they want to take his rank away.
Then they want to take his retirement away.
So we welcome back to the program Eddie Gallagher and the CEO, co-founder of Nine Line Apparel, Tyler Merritt.
All right, so your case is now fully resolved.
Did you get your full retirement with the proper rank?
I did, Sean.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Yeah, so I officially retired the other day and retired with all the benefits that I earned over the past 20 years, which was a huge blessing.
I couldn't believe that there were people fighting to take that from you.
I couldn't believe it.
I'm like, it's like, you know, liberals don't just want Paul Manafort in jail for tax evasion and lying on a loan application.
No.
They want him dying in jail.
They want a death sentence.
It's like, man, there's like zero compassion.
Anyway, so Tyler, you met Eddie in the course of all of this, and now you guys have partnered together.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, this case kind of exemplifies why this president is the commander-in-chief our country needs.
The fact that it came this far, the fact that we put Eddie through this hell after serving our country for almost 20 years, putting him in prison for almost nine months and putting his family through the uncertainty of he survives multiple combat deployments,
but he might go to jail for the rest of his life.
And without the president's intervention, that would have happened.
Without the intervention of Pete Hegseth and other individuals that were very vocal, Eddie, who is an absolute hero, could have paid the ultimate price for just being caught in a crossfire between the left and the right.
Now, the left has a very clear agenda.
They want to villainize people like Eddie.
And they want to promote companies, say, like Nike, who pick their brand ambassadors as people like Colin Kaepernick, a person I like to consider a man-child.
You know, we like to pick our brand ambassadors out of heroes.
You know, we have Eddie Gallagher.
We have Mark Geis, one of the survivors from Benghazi.
Those are the people that we like to work with.
And I'm so excited for this next chapter in Eddie's life where he can literally drive across country and be reunited with his family, but then also start this new venture of ours.
And SFG, this is going to be a really amazing product.
We're going to be competing against Columbia's PFG for that coastal lifestyle brand with an edge.
And I couldn't think of a better brand ambassador than Eddie Gallagher.
Well, I'm glad that it all worked out for both of you, seriously.
And, you know, look, I guess this is probably the greatest Christmas you're going to have, Eddie Gallagher.
It's sad that we send brave men to go fight wars.
We start wars with all the best of intentions, all the confidence and rigor and commitment.
And then these wars keep getting politicized.
And I'll be honest, I've just gotten to the point where we cannot do this anymore.
We can't put handcuffs on guys in battle and second-guess them and say, well, you can't shoot unless you've been fired at first.
If you wait that long, you may be dead.
And then they're going to try you if you do shoot first.
So I'm urging everybody that I can to get the next generation of weaponry, both offensive and defensive, so that we fight our wars from Tampa, Florida and push buttons.
The way the president pretty much beat back the caliphate in Syria without handcuffs.
Because we can't do this to people like you anymore.
We can't.
Clayton Lawrence and how many others?
Exactly.
And I think that's, you know, the message that the president sent by getting involved.
It was a pretty strong message saying he's going to stand shoulder to shoulder with our warfighters and not, you know, show the people that we're not disposable.
We can't be treated this way.
You know, we've been fighting war for almost two decades now.
And, you know, you can't, once politics and all the other bureaucracy gets involved in war, I mean, we see what happens.
And I think the president is showing a strong message saying that he has our warfighters' facts.
Well, I appreciate it.
And Tyler, last point.
If people want to get a hold of your apparel, be on my website, Hannity.com.
How can they do it?
Yeah, obviously on your site, but also at ninelineapparel.com.
By the way, how's my Quid ProQuoto Joe t-shirt selling?
It's selling like hotcakes.
The message is very clear, and I think it seems to be resonating very well with all the other people.
You can get that if you go to Hannity.com, hashtag QuidProQuot Joe.
He apparently hates it.
We saw the meltdown yesterday.
Yep.
Yep.
And we've got many more in the hopper that I'm sure he will also not like.
But that's one of the great things about living in this country.
We get to speak our mind without being stoned to death.
So I'm a big fan.
All right.
Thank you, Tyler Merritt.
Everything's linked to Hannity.com.
Eddie, I would imagine this is going to be the best Christmas you've had in many years.
And thank you for your service to your country.
Thank you, Sean.
I appreciate it.
And thank you for advocating for me this whole time.
And yes, I will be joined.
You can thank Bernie Carrick is the one that I'm like, Bernie, I read this article.
It doesn't look good.
And he goes, you got to trust me.
He's screaming at me.
Screaming.
He got in my face.
Bernie Carrick is our new godfather.
That's awesome.
All right, guys.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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