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In one area, I do disagree with the IG.
I felt this was very flimsy.
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Um I'm getting a little worried about Director Ray, as it ought to be his job to urgently be looking to clean up what is all of the abuse of power corruption at the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
Enough damage has been done.
And you ought to be clearly seeing that by now.
All I see, all I'm sensing is somebody that wants to protect the bureaucracy.
And I'm getting really nervous about this guy.
Because on top of that, I don't know, he was asleep at the wheel.
Doesn't seem to really comprehend the bureau's role in attempting really to overthrow a duly elected president led by the upper echelon of the bureau that he now runs.
He has an obligation and duty, not only for the country, obviously, because we depend on the FBI so much, and the 99% of FBI agents, the special agents, the men and women and the field offices all around the country that risk their lives for us every day and keep us safe every day.
We we we want them beyond reproach.
Not gonna be that hard.
You've got to, you know, lay the gauntlet down and institute the reform.
I don't see anything here now.
I don't know how they're gonna get their credibility back, because I'm watching Christopher Ray echo the democratic conspiracy theorist talking points on Ukrainian interference in 2016.
Although you notice whenever the mob and the media tries to do the Ukrainian election interference, oh that that is a conspiracy theory by right wing.
By the way, they ought to know conspiracy theories because they've been peddling their lies, misinformation, Their propaganda, their conspiracy theories, and their hoax for well on a on a higher level than ever before the last three years.
They're experts at it.
So Ray is interviewed by ABC.
And he actually said, well, we have no information that indicates that Ukraine interfered with the 2016 election.
Now, the way it's being argued by the mob and by the media, oh, the Republicans that didn't believe in Russian election interference, they're now saying that it probably was Ukraine.
And that's why the president was right to say, uh, can you do us a favor?
Because we spent three long years being told how horrible election interference by a foreign country is.
No, yeah, let's be very clear.
Nobody doubts that the Russians in their way were involved in election interference.
They are a hostile regime led by a hostile actor on the world stage by the name of Vladimir Putin.
He's the guy that Obama promised more flexibility after he got re-elected.
And boy, I'd love to get the transcripts of those calls.
But putting that aside, nobody's saying that didn't happen.
But with Hillary's server, how many countries hacked in North Korea hack into it?
Did the Iranian mulliers hack into it?
Did the Chinese hack into it?
We don't know.
Who else hacked into this thing?
We don't know.
Nobody has any idea.
Our other outsiders, we don't know the answer to that.
I don't know the answer.
We do know Russia interfered.
Devin Nunes warned Biden and Obama that they would do it.
So just because it is there's no conservative that I know that is not recognizing that simple fundamental truth.
Of course they did.
We were warned they were going to do it.
They didn't listen.
They didn't stop it.
They should have stopped it.
Now, or at least tried to, or be able to come back and say, well, these are the steps we took to stop it.
Something, anything would have been better than what they did, which is nothing.
So you got key senators like John Kennedy, Ted Cruz suggesting that Ukraine might have been involved separate and apart.
Pay close attention, you mob swamp creatures, separate and apart from Russia.
We're acknowledging Russia interfered.
But his comments that, oh, uh, I'm trying to understand here.
We have no information that indicates this.
All right, if I know more than the FBI director, that's not good.
Somebody needs to help the FBI director out.
And I don't know who the right person to get to the FBI director is.
I will quote, I will send him to perhaps a paper I'm just guessing he might like.
The New York Times.
Fake news, but they got it right this case.
This is from December of 2018.
Ukraine court rules Manafort disclosure caused meddling in U.S. election.
That's from the New York Times in December of 2018.
I'll read it for the director.
The court in Ukraine has ruled that officials in the country violated the law by revealing during the 2016 presidential election in the U.S. details of suspected illegal payments to Paul Manafort.
2016, while Manafort was the chairman of the Trump campaign, anti-corruption prosecutors in Ukraine disclosed that a pro-Russia Russian political party had earmarked payments for Manafort from an illegal slush fund.
Manafort resigned from the campaign two weeks uh later to Ukrainian members of parliament and press for investigations into whether the prosecutors' revelation of payment records, which were first published in the New York Times had violated Ukrainian laws that in some cases prohibit prosecutors from revealing evidence before a trial.
Both lawmakers asserted that if the release of the slush fund information broke the law, then it would should be reviewed as an illegal effort to influence the United States presidential election in favor of Hillary.
Now, then I would then guide not only that court decision, I would then guide the director of the FBI to January 11th, 2017 in politico.
That's where they discuss DNC operative contractor Alexander Chalupa meeting with the Ukrainians in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington for the purpose, they say, in politico, hardly a right-wing outlet, that for the purpose Of getting dirt on Trump and Trump associates to help Hillary Clinton.
And that it all backfired because they backed the wrong horse and whoa, Donald Trump won.
Now they're in trouble.
So I'm not, I'm not sure why Director Ray is having a problem with this, but him not knowing this to me is like the equivalent of Bob Mueller not knowing what fusion GPS is, or not knowing that Jeannie Ray was once Clinton's attorney at the Clinton Foundation.
And by the way, and now we're going to get lectured by, oh, the wingman for Barack Obama, Eric Holder.
He's lecturing Bill Barr about who's fit and not fit to be an attorney general.
A guy so in the tank for Barack Obama that he called himself Obama's wingman.
He's now complaining that the president's attorney general, Bill Barr is not independent enough.
You gotta be kidding me.
Former attorney general Eric Holder believes Barr is unfit to serve as the nation's top law enforcement officer writing in the Washington Post and Op-Bed at recent controversial comments.
You mean the truth?
You mean the fact that uh all of this is proven true now?
Uh, that it all happened?
Are you still being the wingman trying to protect Barack Obama still?
I want to know how high up into the Obama administration all of these shenanigans went.
I'd like to know what Obama knew and when he knew it.
What Biden knew and when he knew it, what Susan Rice knew when she knew it.
Same with Loretta Lynch, same with Samantha Powers.
But anyway, Holder, you know, he writes this piece, pointed out in a recent headline to Barr, et cetera, et cetera.
Suffice to say, Eric Holder, uh, he should never have been in charge of the Justice Department.
And by the way, his role covering up Operation Fast and Furious, the IRS gate scandals.
Yeah, we've got a lot on Eric Holder.
Remember, we're a nation of cowards, he said.
He refused to turn over documents relating to Fast and Furious.
Yeah, that was their stupid program, their idiotic program to give guns to criminals and drug dealers and cartels and not even put a tracking device on them that ended up killing Brian Terry and a bunch of other people.
Yeah, that was that was his genius investigation there.
He that that was his quote, unwillingness to cooperate, even though many people died as a result of that dumb program.
You know, then you have the attorney general on race, uh, his comments that he made in July of 13 of 2014.
Then the Nation of Cowards comments that he stands by.
And he commented, uh, and and I really, as a law enforcement person, wasn't really sure if it's a good thing to say, well, some Americans mistrust the police.
When they go low, we kick them.
That's what he said.
That's what the new Democratic Party is about, Eric Holder said.
Exactly when did you think America was great, he said.
Republicans are gonna cheat in 2020, he's predicting.
He makes it up.
Now remember, he's the guy with the IRS scandal.
He refused to appoint a special prosecutor.
Why would he?
Because we know they targeted conservative organizations, Tea Party organizations.
You know, also a group of GOP lawmakers released articles of impeachment and misleading testimony.
Remember that?
Nation of cowards.
He once said it.
You know, he tried to have Khalid Sheikh Muhammad's trial in civil court in Manhattan.
You know, tried to have it there.
Remember that big contract?
Remember the use of executive power by him?
And it's beyond a nation of cowards turning over documents related to Fast and Furious.
His remarks in an interview on the Tom Joyner show.
You may remember this when he said he's the wingman, or a clip of him and a video of Attorney General Holder who's on ABC on issues of race.
And he said, you know, there's a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that directed at me, directed at the president.
You know, people talk about taking their country back.
I can't look into people's hearts, look into their minds, but it seems to me that the president has been treated differently than others.
Uh what you're insinuating America is being racist if you disagree with Obama's policies?
I don't know what you're insinuating there.
And then he goes on to say a certain racial component to this for some people.
And there are racists in this country.
That's sad to say, but that is not the vast overwhelming majority, thank God, of Americans that are good people.
You have these insane people that are racist, bigoted, and hateful.
Um his idea that, you know, we when they go low, we kick them.
Wow.
That's pretty amazing.
Exactly.
When did you think America was great?
Republicans are going to cheat in 2020.
He refused to appoint the special prosecutor.
Remember that all happened?
Remember the idea, the House Republican committee concluded that he gave deceptive and misleading testimony in May of 2013 when he told Congress he'd never been involved in a potential prosecution of members of the news media.
And the report said it's difficult to square, holders testimony with his approval of a search warrant application in 2010.
Remember the James Rosen, Fox News journalist, a probable co-conspirator in the leak investigation, or the AP revealing the Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for the AP in what the news organization's cooperative top executive called the massive, unprecedented intrusion into how news organizations gather news.
I mentioned the Fast and Furious scandal.
I don't know why, you know, he wanted to move the KSM trial to Manhattan.
And of course, we have the use of executive power, which is pretty much unlimited power that Obama can do anything that he wants because he's his wingman and he's going to defend them regardless of whether the law allows or dictates.
I don't think we need lectures from the likes of Eric Holder.
Um, all right.
Now, we have a lot happening today.
This whole issue of we've been vindicated is now blown up in their face.
The next steps in this are going to be spectacular.
Now it's gonna take time.
The impeachment issue, in spite of all the television coverage, and nauseum is going nowhere.
The polls are declining rapidest rapidly, precipitously.
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Um, this is getting for the deep state more devastating by the minute, by the hour, by the day.
And I know that the mob and the media, I can tell you anecdotally, uh, perhaps uh one of the better barometers that you can have.
Whenever, like, there's there's a sense among the radical extreme left that uh there's blood on the water for three years, impeachment.
I mean, they said it so many times.
I think one of the best montages we ever put together is how many times they said it in 2016, 17, 18, and 19, impeach and peach impeach.
But you got members of Congress now debating what is a vague, baseless BS articles of impeachment.
We've gone through all of this.
Uh, abuse of power, okay.
How?
Nobody can explain that.
Obstruction, why?
Because uh the president did what every other president before he himself, what they have done, and that is invoke executive privilege so that you can have real conversations with real advisors to do a really hard job that you need to keep some things private about.
And when you have a disagreement between varying branches of government, more particularly the executive and legislative branches.
Yes, you are allowed, and it is allowed to seek remedy in the judicial branch.
That is what they do.
So they're doing this, the race is on, it's never moved any faster.
And on the side of this, I watched the mob in the media.
Again, part of the bifurcation compartmentalization madness of them and their rage against Trump, that they just they kind of want to look the other way at all the bombshells that took place yesterday as it relates to Inspector General Horowitz's testimony.
You know, like they all went out there.
You had Anderson Cooper, you had Nicole Wallace.
Everyone's exonerated from the smears of the president.
This is on Monday.
Uh the inspector general debunked the president's charges against him.
No, because he said yesterday, I think activities we found here don't vindicate anyone who touched this PISA.
And then he refused to rule out any political bias.
Uh, I don't know, their state of mind doesn't look good on the decision matters.
But Barr and Durham have waited, and they actually have real ability to get to the bottom of that.
And clearly they are indicating that they've found the evidence.
It's only a matter of time now before it comes out.
All right, we'll get to all this.
And I'm gonna break down the day when we get back.
Next, straight ahead.
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Um, so there is a bit of a controversy that's emerged.
I'm not that worried about it myself.
Uh and I might, and I know I've been arguing with some of my conservative friends, and I I think I I'm torn on both sides of it, which is not usually, I'm not usually indecisive on anything.
There is a real part of me that believes that Adam Schiff, the compromised corrupt congenital liar, needs to be put under oath in any Senate trial.
There's a part of me that believes that, okay, if we're looking for quids and pros and quos, then here come Joe's uh quid pro quo.
Um he should be put under oath, and Hunter Biden should be put under oath in a Senate trial.
Um, Mitch McConnell has agreed to be on Hannity tonight, and I will ask him about it.
Now, the other side of the argument is is that their case is so pathetically weak that it won't take long.
You'll have house a house presentation, but they only have one fact witness, only one.
And they'll put forward it'll be a waste of time.
And at that moment, I would expect Republicans to just roll the, you know, call the roll and get this out of the way.
And I assume that's gonna be happening after the new year at this point.
Now, with that said, some of his people say, no, we gotta we gotta hold them.
We gotta we gotta go through all of this.
In the back of my head, I just they're so corrupt.
And I'm thinking strategically here, what's in the best interest of the country and the president and everybody involved in this because he did nothing wrong.
We all know that.
We all know that they're all hearsay witnesses, not admissible in a court, not admissible in the trial.
I assume the chief judge of the Supreme Court, John Roberts agrees with that.
I assume that opinion witnesses are useless also to him, maybe one or two experts beyond that.
I can't see anymore.
And then you're gonna have others that take the opposite view.
We saw that screw up day.
That was the only one real hearing that Nutty Nadler have with it, had with his shift show.
So this is interesting because the Washington Times has just reported that it looks like Mitch McConnell wants to short circuit these plans as it relates to having Hunter, zero experienced Hunter Biden who made millions, whose dad fired the prosecutor investigating him, leveraging a billion U.S. tax dollars at the impeachment trial.
And apparently in about 10 days, Hunter is going to be put under oath and grilled about the money he made with Burris Maholdings by none.
Apparently, the woman in this court case down in Arkansas, who's apparently more motive to get to the bottom of these things than Republicans.
So what's interesting here is Hunter Biden will have to answer these questions about his financial records.
Now, some of you are going to say, Hannity, you just you need to do this the right way.
The biggest problem is you're not dealing with ethical people here.
You're not dealing with honest people here.
You're not dealing with rational people here.
You're dealing with people that have been and continue to be obsessed with one thing and one thing only, and that is destroying your duly elected president.
So while a part of me would like to do it all, there will be times, a time and a place where all of it can get done.
But extending out, and by the way, I don't care if you have a different point of view on this.
It's uh I I could easily be persuaded in the other direction because I'm I'm torn.
But the second that you can end this, my vote is to end it.
You give them more time, they're gonna throw 15 more articles of impeachment on the table before it's all said and done.
That's how sick this has gotten.
Um is it are you are you caving to the mob in the sense?
No, I just think you're you're looking out for the country too because of the damage this is doing for the country.
And there's a lot of damage being done here.
You know, we watched the inspector general yesterday before the hearings with in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
And what I loved about it was everything he said.
No, nobody's vindicated here.
No, we found here, I think the activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched them.
That's not what the mob in the media was saying on Monday on fake news CNN and Area 51 Roswell Rachel Maddow's conspiracy channel.
The FBI's review process of FISA applications was found to have all these basic fundamental serious errors, as we were told telling you.
They failed to meet the most basic obligations in this particular case.
You know, and when the when any of these questions came up, they were it is mind-numbing what we discovered from the inspector general.
Now, I didn't like his take on the, you know, well, I don't know about politics.
Uh that's why Durham and Barr's comments are far more relevant because they're not working in the bubble that Horowitz had to work in.
But as you watch all of this testimony and you read this report, and I'm going back and reading it more closely every day, all under the corrupt watch of Jim Comey, the liar that he is.
They omitted exculpatory evidence.
They doctored key material, they doctored it.
They verified nothing and used it and put it before Pfizer court judges under the word verified.
It's unverifiable.
And now that we know Christopher Steele didn't stand behind it, and his subsource laughed at the idea that anyone would use it because it was basically bar talk.
That's how sick it is.
Then you got 50 some odd subsection underlying issues involved in the 17 significant failures inaccuracies and omissions.
And and and Horowitz was adamant about it all.
But you have all of these Trump hating deep state operatives now that have been exposed.
Sadly, the reputation of the world's premier law enforcement agency is tarnished.
I don't know where Director Ray is.
He's missing in action.
It's sad for the 99% of brave men and women that serve this premier law enforcement agency in the world.
It's It's sad for our intelligence community, the 99% that like the FBI special agents risk their lives for us every day.
Our country deserves better than this.
The rank and file in these organizations deserve better than this.
We need them to do very important work to protect and keep us safe every day.
There's a lot of evil in this world.
And, you know, you look at all the deceptions and all the lying.
I mean, Monday, Comey's proclaiming is I've been vindicated.
Are you serious?
Excuse me, you signed four Pfizer warrants with information based on information that was absolutely unverifiable in your zealous, you know, attempt to get at Donald Trump.
How do you justify signing a warrant that omits purposefully exculpatory evidence?
How do you justify doctoring key material and still using it so you can keep this going?
How do you justify and proudly proclaim your vindication when you got 17 significant failures inaccuracies and omissions?
There's no vindication for him here.
Now, one single thing.
You have a single source, which is laughing at the idea that they ever used his bar talk as real information.
Then the leaks and the circular reporting scam that they were involved in with their with their conspiracy theory friends and the mob in the media with zero verification.
The very same person that you exonerated and gave every consideration that no American would ever get as it relates to, oh, let me bring in in my uh my interrogation with the FBI, let me bring in two people so they can help me out.
And then you can exonerate me three days later when every single statute subsection of the espionage act was clearly violated.
Just like the deleted emails.
Oh, no, no, you're nothing wrong there.
No, no real prosecutor would ever do anything with this.
Baloney.
Without all this fraudulent activity, no warrant would have ever been granted.
No dirty dossier, Russian bought and paid for Clinton dossier.
There is no Pfizer warrant.
Take away one individual's constitutional rights, civil liberties, who cares?
Backdoors us one step, two step, right into all world Trump campaign transition and presidency.
Comey saying a year.
Any talk of Pfizer abuse he said was just nonsense.
No, it's not.
He was up to his eyeballs in it, lying through his teeth.
We know it's a lie based on Horowitz's report and his testimony.
As Horowitz called it, Pfizer abuse inexplicable.
There is no answer except their political agenda.
They know better.
What have I been saying to you?
It's really us, we, the people, the smelly Walmart shoppers that support the president, voted for the president, that are happy with the president, that they have contempt for as well.
Irredeemable deplorables that cling to God and our constitution and our Bibles and religion.
Oh, that makes us horrible.
Comey turned, you know, our country's most powerful tools of intelligence at the highest level against a political campaign and a candidate and then a president he hated, using unverifiable dirt bought and paid for by the opposition party candidate, lying repeatedly to FISA court judges.
Good luck to any of you if you ever do that.
And then, no, oh, and I loved how we found out he wouldn't renew his security clearance, so he didn't have to talk about classified information and avoid a real interview with General Inspector General Horowitz.
That's another lie, by the way, about his dirty dossier.
This dirty dossier, the central and essential, Harowitz says to the FISA application against Carter Page.
Where does Carter go to get his good name back?
Because apparently he worked for the CIA, a pretty risky job going to countries like Russia, so that he could bring back source material for our country to be safer.
And he said he had no idea who paid for the dirty dossier.
That was a lie, too.
Because the IG report pointed out that prior to the first warrant, the FBI believed the dossier was created for someone who was seeking political opposition research against candidate Trump.
They knew.
They were warned by Bruce Orr, Kathleen Kavlak, and others.
You know, this this sanctimony because all of these people think they knew better than we, the people.
And the illicit leaking that went on.
You know, he'd already been referred along with McCabe and Strunk and Page for criminal prosecution.
I don't know why that went nowhere.
But I'll tell you, it's getting really scary now.
Then you get this whole Schiff show.
He's missing in action.
You know what?
The FBI and DOJ did not abuse the Pfizer process, he said, or mit material information or subvert this vital tool despite the Trump campaign.
No, Horowitz found the exact opposite, Mr. Schiff.
Horowitz said we identified at least 17 significant errors omissions in the Carter Page Pfizer applications and many additional errors in the Woods procedures.
And it gets more embarrassing for Schiff.
He actually wrote the DOJ made, quote, only narrow use of information from steel sources about Page's specific activities in 2016 and didn't rely on any salacious allegations.
That too is another shift show lie.
Harwitz report debunked stats saying we concluded that Crossfire Hurricanes team, their team's receipt of the steel election reporting on September 19th played a central and essential role.
And by the way, without that dirty Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier, they wouldn't have gotten the Pfizer warrant.
And by the way, you can even take it further.
You know, the decision of the FBI to support the request for surveillance targeting Paige to get to Trump, one step, two step.
It was all based on the dirty dossier.
Schiff was on TV lying to us.
Why do you think I call him a congenital liar?
Why do I say they're the media mob, the mob lies, shift lies?
They've all been lying to you.
Notice they got it all wrong when it came to Mueller.
Notice we got it all right when it came to the Pfizer.
And it's even deeper and more corrupt than we even knew.
They were out there lying about the dossier the whole time.
Ample evidence of Russia collusion.
None.
Kept saying we got Trump.
No, you didn't have anything.
It is, it is that sick and that ugly.
You know, you got a guy like Schiff.
Go back to his report.
The FBI and DOJ did not abuse the Pfizer process, omit material information, or subvert this vital tool.
No, we got the opposite from the Horowitz report.
You know, he's only narrow use of it.
Nope, it was the bulk of it.
It was beyond the bulk.
It was 99% of it.
Was the steel dossier unverifiable as it is?
476 pages.
The quarter-proof surveillance shift said of Page allowed the FBI to collect valuable intelligence.
Nope, that was debunked by Horowitz II.
The FBI was not able to gather any valuable intelligence, was not able to corroborate anything in the dirty debunked steel dossier, and they used it to get the warrant.
It reads, quote, Crossfire Hurricane Team had not corroborated any of the substantive allegations.
None.
I dig deeper and deeper into this thing.
I just, it is mind numbing how corrupt it is.
We're going to get to a lot more of this coming up as this program unfolds today.
It's actually, these are really actually sick and dangerous times.
It's sad.
To see what they've put our country through and how they still continue to lie.
And now they take it to the, you know, impeachment shift show.
Now we got another one.
And by the way, even none of that is going well for any of them.
You know, Democrats literally have become, you know, all this is a race to deny due process, race to impeachment.
It's ludicrous what they're doing.
And by the way, it looks like many House Democrats are ready to defect on this thing.
The facts have always been on the president's side.
They never did anything, and they all got the money, and Zelensky has said more often than not, we didn't.
What are you talking about?
We never felt any pressure.
Every rule, respect for the rule of law, due process thrown out the window.
Every one of them.
You want to talk about abuse of power?
Well, I think Professor Turley had it right.
You know, you say it's obstruction when somebody seeks Remedy in the court, which is totally completely constitutional.
That's what the courts are there for to resolve disputes between the executive and legislative branches in part.
Why let why let fairness, fundamental due process, ever get in the way of a of a shift show or nutty Nadler shift show?
Yeah, Pelosi bragging.
Well, this well, we've actually been this impeachment thing's been going on two and a half years.
Why not rushing evidence?
No evidence of wrongdoing.
Ukraine says there's no no pressure.
Uh the president gave them everything and they did nothing.
It's not like the quid or the pro or the quo with Joe.
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Has there been a warrant, a FISA warrant granted without the inclusion of the Steele dossier?
I think, and the only testimony we have on this is that it was a part of the complete whole of the application and all the parts were important.
The broader point though was that the only parts of the dossier that were included were those that pertained to Carter Page and some of that was corroborated.
Only the parts pertinent to Carter Page.
And there was corroboration of some of those very important elements.
Well, you know, there's been, I think, an effort by some to discredit uh the firm fusion GPS or discredit uh Mr. Steele.
And and as you say, uh Mr. Steele uh has a very good reputation.
With the letter that uh Senators Grassley and Graham wrote uh urging an investigation of Christopher Steele.
Uh I think that's a terrible thing to do.
A tremendous disservice, I think, to Christopher Steele, who really did a patriotic duty in alerting the FBI that a presidential campaign may be compromised by the Russians.
It was all lies.
Everything you just heard out of the mouth of that compromise corrupt congenital liar Schiff was lies.
That is him, his as we compared on TV the other night.
His what he stood versus where Devin Nunes' report stood.
Nunes was right.
The IG report corroborated everything he said.
Everything Schiff said was a lie.
He's a compromise corrupt congenital liar.
I just went through the last hour pointing out his lies, pointing out Comey's lies.
They all lie.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, as we now give more and more nuggets to all of this, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analysts, he's written now two New York Times bestsellers about how corrupt all of this has been.
He's been proven right and vindicated on every level.
I don't think there's one thing you would ever take back from your books.
I'll get to that in a second.
Kimberly Strassel, another one that has dug deep and wide and been right on all of this.
Wall Street Journal columnists, by the way, she has the is the author of a new book, Resistance at all costs, how Trump haters are breaking America.
Well, they're certainly not helping the country, are they?
Anyway, is there anything either one of you reported that maybe you got wrong now that we know that yeah, it was Hillary's bought and paid for a dirty Russian, unverifiable dossier at the heart of all of this, Greg?
Well, if anything, I underestimated the level of malevolence and and bias on the part of uh you know the FBI in in chapter three, lying and spine, it's called.
I identified about a dozen lies uh by the FBI to the FISA court judges.
It turns out there are actually 51 omissions, inaccuracies, deceptions identified in appendix number one, beginning on page 15.
So in other words, it's sort of like a subsection of the 17 major findings.
Yes, it is.
Well, the remember the 17 are described as significant.
Well, go to the appendix.
All 51 of the false representations are in my judgment incredibly significant.
Uh, you know, the the worst part of it is that uh the FBI learned in January of two so 2017, after the first Pfizer warrant was issued, that uh they they discovered who uh Christopher Steele's subsource was.
They went to that subsource and he said, Are you kidding me?
A lot of this was said in just over beers.
I this wasn't supposed to be for a report because it's multiple hearsays, hearsay built on hearsay.
We you know, we were just shooting the bull.
And so at that point in time, the FBI should have done two things run to the FISA court, withdrawn and apologize their warrant on Carter Page and the second.
By the way, this the statute mandates that if they discover at any point that what they put in a FISA application is not true, that they're obligated under the law to correct the record immediately.
The other thing that Comey should have done is he had just gone to the White House and you know told the president about the so-called P tape and the dossier.
He should have told the president, we've just found out that this dossier is garbage.
Uh, but he didn't do that.
Instead, he continued to lie to the president and pursue the investigation against him.
And as I point out in my book, Comey has now admitted privately to Congress, but I've read a transcript of it, that even when the special counsel was appointed in May of uh 2017, they still had no credible evidence.
Every time Kimberly, I dig deeper, the angrier I get, the more outraged I am, and the more that I see the depth of of outright pure lying, corruption, abuse of power.
And the more that I I feel that if we don't get this straightened out as a country, this is just going to happen again and again.
We won't have a country.
You don't have a rule of law if you have people that we entrust at this high level in the premier law enforcement agency in the world and the premier intelligence community in the world, and this is how how they act, and this is what they do because apparently they think they are smarter than we smelly Walmart shopping Trump supporters.
Well, don't forget either, and Greg just pointed out a really important point in the timeline that's also being somewhat overlooked and swept under the carpet here is if you go to May 2017, Comey's fired, and uh and at that time, remember Andy McCabe steps up and he elevates this into an investigation directly into the president.
And that is all the more remarkable given what Greg just noted that the FBI at that time had no additional evidence.
In fact, they had made no progress whatsoever in verifying anything in this dossier.
So on what basis do you take such a dramatic step?
And the answer is that they had no basis, but they also just assumed nobody was gonna find out about it, and that they didn't have to follow any of the rules.
This is a real problem with this.
It's about rule breaking or or law breaking.
I think yeah, I was gonna say it's isn't it really about abuse of power?
Is it about corruption?
Isn't it about when you when you think of what they put the country through, Kimberly?
I mean, it's breathtaking.
And if you think about the danger at any point here, because this is now three long years culminating in this insanity Ukrainian impeachment coup attempt.
It's it's crazy.
And also, I mean, look, you asked about you would do differently.
Like in my book, I pointed out like how crazy it was for the FBI to take the allegations that were in this dossier at face value.
And now what we find out from this report is just how terrible Christopher Steele was at his job.
Uh when they finally went and interviewed people who'd worked with him, they said that he had problems with judgment, that he was known to make rash decisions, that he liked to, this is my favorite line, Sean, that he liked to chase after shiny objects.
Um they did no verification on any of these claims before they presented them to a FISA court.
Kimberly, I say it differently.
It's unverifiable, never was verifiable.
Well, now we know.
Yeah, I mean, that but this is also one of the important things that came out of this report is that nothing was verified other than publicly available times, locations, and the titles of people.
Greg, when you listen to the comments of Attorney General Barr, and you listen to the comments of prosecutor John Durham, and you you I'm um look, I don't believe either one of them would be saying what they are now saying if they didn't already have a lot of evidence.
Now, let me backtrack.
In the course of unpeeling every layer of this onion, and you both were part of this ensemble cast of a few of us, there weren't many that actually got this right.
And that was premeditated fraud on a Pfizer court uh against the guy, by the way, that was serving his country, putting himself in harm's way in countries like Russia, as hostile as they are, and bringing that information to the CIA only to have his work,
his documented work that was approved, uh somehow diminished because they altered the document that confirmed it so that they could justify the spying on him and the one step, two step into all things Trump World's campaign transition and then deep into his presidency, Greg.
But when you listen to Durham and Barr, where is it going?
It's going where it currently is, a criminal investigation.
I think inexorably will result in at least one, but there should be more uh criminal charges.
Yes, the top lawyer doctored evidence.
He should be prosecuted for that.
Um but you know, I also think two things can happen.
Barr can prosecute uh people at the FBI who lied to the Pfizer court.
The Pfizer court itself could uh hold a show cause for contempt hearing and drag the people who signed uh this FISA document, Comey, McCabe, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, all in and hold a hearing.
And if they don't get uh good answers, they can hold them in criminal contempt.
Bring your toothbrush, you're going behind bars.
So there's a couple of courses that can occur here, but you know, truly the FBI lawyer who's who doctored an email to say that uh, you know, Carter Page uh was not a source for the CIA when in fact he was a source, is certainly in my judgment, a slam dunk crime.
Kimberly, where do you see it going?
Because I I just don't believe somebody of the attorney general stature would be saying any of this if in fact you didn't have information that we don't currently have.
I think I have a good idea uh when they talk about going abroad.
I assume it has to do with outsourcing of illegal spying uh to friendly intelligence agencies for the purpose of circumventing American law, that will then also bring in other collaborators as it relates to the uh uh uh uh Operation Crossfire Hurricane, and uh I don't believe any of which could have happened had they not organized this coup attempt against the president, if you will.
Well, let's look at what information we have and what we don't.
What we now have, because of the IG report is uh a pretty comprehensive details of what happened after the after the FBI opened its investigation.
Of course, the great mystery is what was going on before that time.
Who was talking to whom, who knew what?
Um, and and that's what I think Durham and Barr are referring to.
And and here's a Really fascinating thing that comes out of this IG report.
It's been somewhat overlooked, but I think it's incredibly important, which is this that if you talk to all the relevant players, and that includes the FBI, uh, they say, well, you know, we didn't have a Trump Russia collusion narrative on our minds until we got this tip at the end of July.
And if you go back and you look at Glenn Simpson's testimony in front of the Senate, he claims that, you know, when he first hired Christopher Steele, he just wanted him to look into business relationships that Trump had in Russia.
And then in the course of this, he came up with this political conspiracy.
Well, if you read the Horowitz report, it's not what Christopher Steele says.
He says that all the way back in May, when Simpson first came to meet him.
I read your tweets online about this.
This is very important.
Explain this.
Yeah, very important.
He said that all the way in May, Simpson came to him and asked whether he'd helped determine, quote, whether there were any ties between the Russian government and Trump and his campaign, and quote, whether Russia was trying to achieve a particular election outcome.
Now, no, this is in May, months before the FBI claims to have been thinking about this.
And by the way, this is important.
You're saying that this was discussed with Simpson in May.
Okay.
We're told that it was actually a comment by a 28-year-old.
Frankly, uh, no offense to Mr. Papadopoulos.
He suffered unnecessarily and his wife and their lovely people.
And and I hope they have recourse.
But a comment made in a bar.
But they also purposely withheld the exculpatory statements.
No, nobody in the Trump campaign that I know would ever do any of this.
They took that out as well.
Stay right there.
Kimberly uh Strasser, Wall Street Journal, uh, Greg Jarrett, both their books are up on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
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All right, as we continue with Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, New York Times bestseller, his latest book on all of this, Witch Hunt.
Nothing he said in these books were wrong.
He's way ahead of the curve.
Kim Strassel, same thing, Wall Street Journal, her book, Resistance at all costs, how Trump haters are breaking America.
We have him up on uh Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere, Amazon.com.
So the next steps, I guess this is gonna go in the House.
Now I have Mitch McConnell on Hannity tonight.
And I'll ask you quickly, we don't have a lot of time.
Now, I I I I could be I could be persuaded in either direction.
There's a part of me that says the left is so nuts that the minute the Republicans get the chance in the Senate to acquit, do it and worry about the investigations of Hunter, Joe, and Schiff in other forms.
But then again, you missed the big opportunity to really bring it out.
But I think they're so nuts they'd bring 15 other items to impeach him on in the meantime, real quick, Greg, 20 seconds each.
Well, Al Green is has is on record as Democrat in Congress is saying if we don't win on this impeachment, we'll impeach him again for something else.
We'll come up with something.
That that pretty much is a good thing.
Yeah, by the way, another Democrat said it as well.
This woman to TMZ uh Harvey Levin, Karen Bass said the same thing.
Yeah.
So what do you think a better way to handle it?
Well, I I would say a short trial.
Uh call just a few witnesses, call Adam Schiff, call the fake whistleblower who has uh no uh immunity or anonymity.
Uh I would leave Biden and Hunter to a different Senate committee.
Got it?
Kimberly.
Yeah, I'm in favor of doing this quickly and providing it no uh no measure of credibility in the Senate uh to expose how rigged it was.
And investigate outside of this.
All right.
Yeah.
Thank all right, thank you both.
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Listen to the process has been the speed at which the House Democrats are moving.
If this is but seriously, though, seriously.
It's been going on for 22 months, okay?
There has been some criticism, though, I will say, about whether or not you should move forward before the end of the year or wait for the courts.
Why do you think now is the time to move?
Well, I think we're not moving speed.
This uh was it two and a half years ago that they initiated uh the Mueller uh investigation.
It is uh not about speed, it's about urgency.
One of the charges against the president of the United States is that he was violating his oath of office by asking a foreign government to intervene in our election, undermining the integrity of our elections.
If we did not hold him accountable, he would continue to undermine our election.
So you yourself accused him of bribery.
Why did you decide not to make bribery one of the articles of impeachment?
I myself am not a lawyer.
Sometimes I act like one, not as often as I act as a doctor.
I practice medicine on the side without benefit of diploma, too.
Uh, this is a decision that was recommended by our working together uh with our committee chairs, our attorneys, and the rest.
So we the articles are what they are, they're very powerful, they're very strong, and they uh uh are a continuation of a pattern of misbehavior on the part of the president.
People are realizing when they see what that was, they think the public thin that they should be determining who the president of the United States is, not some foreign power.
They think that no one is above the law.
All right, there is the the weakness, the pathetic nature of what is the modern extreme radical democratic party.
That that that's who they are.
This defines them.
This is what the election will be about in 327 days.
I mean, I I I was w I'm just watching all of this.
Um, I see that we've got Democrats now really on the edge wanting to defect how big that number is gonna be, is gonna be very interesting to watch.
Um the facts are on the president of the United States side.
There's nothing wrong with the phone call.
Zero.
They never discussed aid.
Oh, what do you mean they never you go through it, it's very, very clear.
Because they make up all this stuff.
They have one fact witness, a million opinion witnesses, a million hearsay witnesses, but the facts don't change as Jim Jordan says over and over and over and over and over again.
You know, the there they say they um, you know, we go to the call, you got the meeting, you have to have the meeting to get the money to meet with the president.
No, we have the invitations.
There was never a quitter a pro or quo in any way.
You know, there was uh there's yet to be any announcement that Ukraine was going to do anything as it relates to looking into corruption election interference, the Biden's and Barisma.
They had the call on the 25th.
There were five separate meetings at a high level, including as high as the vice president of the United States.
Just like in the phone call, aid was never discussed.
And it wasn't discussed one time.
Not once in five calls, five meetings after the call.
What did what did they do to get the money?
When did they make the announcement?
They never made the announcement.
You know, Democrats, you know, they keep saying this one sentence.
I'd like you to do us a favor.
Okay, what's the plain language?
Because I thought they cared about election interference.
Our country has been through a lot, the president said.
Heck, yeah, our country's been through a lot because Democrats supposedly cared about foreign election interference.
Oh, Hannity, you're now spreading a conspiracy theory.
You don't believe that Russia interfered in our elections.
No, uh, just the opposite.
We've been saying Russia is a hostile regime.
Putin, a hostile actor on the world stage.
If anything, I can't understand why Biden and Obama didn't take the admonition of then House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes in 2014, because Devin Nunes told everybody that this was gonna happen.
Told everybody.
So the president saying, hey, you know, okay, if you whatever involvement you might have had here, now we're this is all made up, Hannity.
Well, no, because a Ukrainian court, they admitted they interfered in our elections.
You have the whole political article.
And by the way, the main voter now works for the New York Times.
Oh, what are you gonna say to him?
Our country's been through a lot.
This is the day after Mueller sat in front of the committee and came off as uh just an ignorant, out of touch, you know, pathetic figure.
He didn't even know what fusion GPS is, had no idea Genie Ray had worked for the Clintons.
None whatsoever.
So that's what the president's reference point is.
And remember the president, nobody pays attention to this ever.
I don't know.
You you seem to be hanging out with a lot of bad people like your predecessor.
I wouldn't have I wouldn't be hanging out with those people.
So, yeah, the country had been through a lot.
Yeah, the president was ticked off because it's two and a half years of lies, conspiracy theories, a hoax, just like we got in this particular case.
Any rules that require any fairness, any fundamental due process, any rightful consideration, any calling of witnesses.
Heck, yeah, in the in the audition behind closed door hearings, you had Adam Schiff telling witnesses not to answer Republican questions or how to answer Republican questions.
I'm supposed to vote on this today, and we have not had one single fat witness here in this committee at all.
And then I hear from my Republican colleagues that were on the intelligence committee, that Republicans were refused to have any of their witnesses in that committee.
And then, on top of that, Republicans were told uh interrupted, silenced by Chairman Schiff when they tried to ask witnesses questions.
They said they said the witness, don't answer that.
You know, it's been predetermined from the get-go.
That's just that that is the bottom line.
And if you want to talk about abuse of power, that would be the Democrats, the do nothing, lazy, hate Trump, psychotic Democrats, because that's where the abuse of power is.
Jonathan Turley, what I'm saying is a legitimate impeachment to set an abbreviated schedule, demand documents, then impeach because they haven't turned over the documents because they're seeking remedy in a court, and courts, the judicial branches design to resolve conflicts when they arise between the executive branch and the legislative branch.
So they go to court and you say, Well, that's obstruction.
Jonathan Terley says, No, that's your abuse of power.
They have broken every single precedent that has ever been established in these proceedings as they race and rush to impeachment.
Uh, and of course, the Ukrainian president, yet again, not this past weekend, the weekend before, said, What are you people doing?
This never happened.
Again, how many times do they have to say it?
It is a travesty what they're doing.
They are hurting the country.
You know, now they're on a clock, now they're on the clock.
Now it doesn't matter what the facts are to be determined.
They don't care.
one witness out of all their witnesses, one that was a fact witness.
Only one.
You know, what is important for anyone is that we just get this done so we can get back to the election.
Oh, okay.
Al Green said it really well.
There's no limit on the number of times Democrats can impeach Trump.
Remember, the first thing that he said was, well, we better impeach him because we're not going to beat him.
Now he's talking about well, we can peach impeach him again.
There's no limit to the number of times.
And then he goes on to say, I believe that we can do do it more than once if it becomes necessary.
And if the Senate does not convict, doesn't mean that the House is now hamstrung and cannot move forward again with impeachment.
Oh, so they're gonna take the country down an endless road of never-ending impeachment impeachment impeachment.
You know, remember, it all started out as quit and pro and quo, but that didn't work out well.
So they focus group and they said, no, bribery is harder hitting.
Well, they didn't have any evidence of any bribery or a quitter or pro or quo like Joe.
And then we and then it evolves into bribery.
Well, that didn't work out either.
And then blackmail and extortion, that didn't work out either.
By the way, all the while, it's funny to watch the Dow Jones setting another record as they speak.
Nobody's taking them seriously.
This has been going on.
Pelosi even said that, you know, at the Politico's woman rules summit, admitting the impeachment process has been going on for two and a half years.
She was asked about criticisms of the speed.
She says speed, it's been going on 22 months, two and a half years, actually.
I think we're not moving with speed.
With it, you know, was it two and a half years ago they initiated the Mueller investigation?
It's not about speed, it's about urgency.
We're just not gonna go down the road of look going through an FBI investigation and the inconvenience of a House Intel investigation and a bipartisan Senate investigation, and then make our way to the Mueller report, only to be let down there too.
So we'll just we'll just say they we'll impeach him on this and we'll we'll only nobody gets to talk to the other side.
This is an insane policy.
And you know, Matt Gates, who's on Hannity tonight, rightly called out their politician protection program because to accept this standard means someone announces they're running for office, it's like instant immunity deal for anything that they would ever do.
And, you know, biggest case in point is quit and pro and quo Joe.
And zero experience Hunter Biden, because I think it's applicable there more than anything else.
And Gates saying it's ludicrous.
All right, let's get to our phones here.
Jimmy, South Carolina.
Jimmy, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
All right, Sean.
What's on your mind today?
Well, you know, I'm thinking after the whole impeachment thing is all said and done, uh I'm thinking President Trump should probably thank Adam Schiff.
You remember back before the Muller probes started, Adam Schiff was the one that was saying he had seen and been made privy to evidence that was better than circumstantial of impeachable wrongdoing.
And all these investigations later, he has been able to keep that evidence to himself and not let it out into the public.
He has done more to protect the presidency of Donald Trump than anybody else.
I think listen, all of them run for like two weeks before the election in his home district so that the voters can thank him properly.
They've done one thing for three years.
They have not accepted the results of the American people, so they have tried to undermine Donald Trump.
And in spite of a 24-7, 365 effort every second minute hour of every 24-hour day, this they end up serving nobody but themselves and looking dumber by the minute.
This is almost manna from heaven.
And then by the way, the candidates that they put forth to run against them, disaster.
And the country is not going down.
The radical extreme 94 trillion dollar new green deal, debacle, Medicare for all debacle with no health uh care choices whatsoever.
Thank you, Jimmy.
Jason is in Oklahoma.
Hey, Jason, how are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
Thank you for taking my call, and I appreciate all you do.
Uh, thank you for letting me do it.
Oh, I appreciate it.
Learn so much just from listening to you and following you on Twitter and everything else.
Um, I'm a licensed professional clinical counselor, and part of my job is to do assessments.
And when I do assessments, it's my job to see whether or not the person is either telling me the truth or lying or exaggerating.
Well, when it comes to these by the court judges, we know they don't live in a bubble.
They don't live on a desert island.
These individuals are watching the news, they're reading the newspaper.
So they're being kept up on what is going around in BC as well as the rest of the country.
So in my mind, they should have discernment, just as we're supposed to have discernment in my profession, they should have discernment as well.
Yet they are presented with these to me can only be considered garbage to go ahead and sign off and spy on a presidential candidate Trump and then President Trump.
It I think these guys are corrupt because to my knowledge, again, I don't know that this has ever been done in the United States.
This is something that is brand new that they are saying it's okay to go ahead and wiretap the president or some of his uh associates.
That's that's brand new, and yet they just went ahead willy-nilly, not once, not twice, not three times, but four times.
I mean, at some point, I think these guys are complicit in that shit.
Oh, they're definitely complicit.
You gotta understand here that it is well, I don't know about the judges.
I think I'm guessing um because I just happened to have met a few judges in my day, not for anything criminal, obviously, but I I I've been in courtrooms enough to and I've watched enough court TV to tell you this, meaning real court TV.
Um, over the years when it used to err.
Uh most judges, they take command of their courtroom.
Uh, you know, and they're not taking crap from anybody.
And you've lie to a judge, you're done.
Judges, it's yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, your honor, no, your honor.
Yes, sir, no, sir.
That's how it works if you're in a court of law.
Now, it happens to also be illegal if you lie to a judge.
And lack of candor, illegal.
Well, that did play a big part in Michael Cohn's life and played a part in Roger Stone's life and Paul Matafort's life.
But again, the two-tier justice system, not Hillary Clinton who lies repeatedly.
We'll see how that ends up.
All right, 800 nine-four one Sean.
Uh, we'll have more on this news breaking developing as we speak.
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There is such a range of conduct here that is inexplicable.
And the answers we got were not satisfactory that we're left trying to understand how could all these errors have occurred over a nine-month period or so among three teams hand picked, high one of the highest profile, if not the highest profile case in the FBI, going to the very top of the organization involving a presidential campaign.
Christopher Steele, is it fair to say that he had a political bias against Donald Trump?
Um, he given who he was paid for, there was a bias that needed to be disclosed to the court.
Does it seem that he all personally had it bias, not just because he's on the payroll of the Democratic Party, but he well, we found in the course of this and heard from Mr. Orr about his comment to him that he was desperate to prevent uh Mr. Trump's election.
Again, this is the guy that provides the dossier that gets the warrant over the top against Garpage.
He's paid for by the Democratic Party, and he personally believes it's bad for Donald Trump to win.
He's marketing the dossier, which is a bunch of garbage to anybody and everybody.
To me, that's important.
Is that important?
Do you uh any evidence of bias is supposed to be disclosed to the court and to the department of lawyers?
Okay.
You know, Mr. Chair, it really uh quite disturbed me when you again rejected the rule of the House that said that we, as the minority, were it says in the rules that you require, require that you set a date for a minority hearing.
And the reason that this is important is because the rules have been thrown out the window here on this process.
In fact, I just can't believe it.
I mean, first of all, you have an unprecedented uh way Of doing impeachment, you don't go through the judiciary committee like has been done in previous uh impediment impeachments.
Instead, Speaker Pelosi hands it over to Adam Schiff.
Adam Schiff, the intelligence committee chair, where he has these closed door hearings in the basement.
I was denied several times, several times the right to go in and hear what these fact witnesses said.
Yet I'm supposed to vote on this today.
And we have not had one single fact witness here in this committee at all.
And then I hear from my Republican colleagues that were on the Intelligence Committee that Republicans were refused to have any of their witnesses in that committee.
And then on top of that, Republicans were told uh interrupted, silenced by Chairman Schiff when they tried to ask witnesses questions.
They said they said to the witness, don't answer that.
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Sean, you want to be a part of the program, a devastating knockdown by Debbie Lesco calling out the madness and the insanity and the lack of due process and the lack of any real witnesses and the lack of any opportunity to actually do a real impeachment uh investigation, uh, rightly so in the House Judiciary Committee.
They just want to race it through so they can go home for the holidays.
Uh that, of course, after we heard from Michael Horowitz that this range of conduct is inexplicable.
Couldn't be any more clear.
Or Christopher Steele's bias needed to be disclosed, just like Hillary uh paying for it needed to be disclosed, just like it says at the top of a FISA application, verified.
We know it's unverifiable that the entire the entire FISA application hinged on the dirty Russian bought and paid for Hillary dossier that's unverifiable.
And they did it not once, they did it four times, and they did it to keep getting at Donald Trump.
It is the single biggest abuse of power and corruption in our lifetime.
And I thought the yesterday, the inspector general, if there's any ambiguity there in the minds of anybody, especially on the big question of whether the report offers vindication as they were claiming Monday.
Uh, no, nobody uh in this process.
Uh I I think the activities we found don't vindicate anybody who touched this FISA.
Anybody.
Uh joining us now is the great senator from the great state of Tennessee, Senator Marsha Blackburn.
She tweeted out the FBI knew Christopher Steele was an untrustworthy foreign actor and political hack paid by the Clintons, yet continue to rely on Steele for the intelligence on Trump's campaign.
The worst part of that, though, uh Senator, is that they were all warned ahead of time, numerous warnings.
And then it gets even worse than that.
Steele, in an interrogatory in Great Britain, says, uh, I have no idea if any of it's true.
That means it's unverifiable.
Yet they swore four times.
James Comey signed three of the four, Rod Rosenstein, the last one, uh, that it was verified and true to the best of their ability.
That would be premeditated fraud on a court.
The next part of this is, yeah, the one subsource that Steele used, knew nothing and actually laughed at the idea.
It was bar talk to use the exact phrase in terms of the information he was even providing Steele.
But yet the whole thing relied on this.
So now I understand the confines that the inspector general of the world that he lives in, but the reality is that prosecutor Durham and the attorney general barr, they don't have those handcuffs, if you will.
They're not confined in a bubble that just revolves around the DOJ and FBI.
And it clearly, based on their own words, their investigation has gone far and wide, and they're finding things that Horwitz doesn't even know about yet.
Well, you're exactly right, Sean.
And you touched on something so important that I think people really need to lock into.
When you have these kind of mistakes and a FISA warrant application, This is unprecedented.
You see mistakes from time to time, but most of those applications, they have been fact checked by people up the food chain.
They start with lower level attorneys and it moves up, and it's supposed to be fact-checked every single step of the way.
That's the wood procedures that are there in the report.
Now, what they did when it came to Christopher Steele, Christopher Steele had been on the FBI payroll from 2013 to 2016.
And this was an important part of the questioning I did yesterday.
In June of 2016, somebody introduced Christopher Steele to Fusion GPS.
Then he started working for Fusion GPS.
And he started to shop the dossier like you were laying out.
Then in November, the FBI goes, hey, wait a minute, this guy is not trustworthy anymore.
Let's take him off the payroll.
But then 13 more times.
Bruce Orr was spoon feeding info to the FBI from Christopher Steele.
They were still taking his info after November 2016.
And it was being spoon-fed by Bruce Orr.
So you have to wonder where how did it all of this connection, uh, what's the genesis of it?
And then why did somebody in the FBI continue to allow this information to come from Christopher Steele when they had already said we're not going to use this guy anymore?
He is untrustworthy.
They knew that with the dossier, he had said in his subsource had said, this is bar talk.
You know, we can't verify any of this.
I mean, it is unbelievable what they did, what they got away with, and if they produced that very first FISA warrant with 10 sins of omission and commission wrapped into that thing, and that James Comey put his signature on it.
So the question now is now that that Horowitz in this hearing yesterday was very clear that nobody's vindicated here and you know, on the decisions regarding the FISA matters, I don't know the state of mind.
He just knows that it was corrupt, and he identified factual and fundamental and basic and serious errors.
As you point out, the Woods uh procedures, the review procedures, the FBI factual accuracy review procedures designed to ensure FISA applications contain a full and accurate presentation of the facts.
One thing, Senator, I have not figured out why are we not hearing from the FISA judges themselves?
Because this was premeditated fraud on a court, and uh I wouldn't lie to Judge Judy, never mind uh a federal judge.
Well, you're right.
It was premeditated, it was intentional, it was vicious, it was malicious, it was all of those things.
I said this should have been called operation take down Trump rather than operation hurricane, crossfire hurricane, because it was designed specifically, and the misleading, the lies, the sins of omission were done specifically to stop Donald Trump.
And I will tell you this, I am looking forward to the Durham report.
I'm looking forward to what he recommends with criminal referrals.
I am looking forward to continuing hearings on this issue.
It is inconceivable that in the United States a FISA warrant was secured to go spy on a U.S. citizen who the FBI knew that person was an asset of the CIA.
Can you imagine?
You know, look at how Comey brags about the way he treated a 33-year war hero, combat veteran, even, uh, General Michael Flynn.
Uh of course I took advantage of the chaos, something I never do or even attempt in the Bush or Obama years.
And then, of course, this was after his deputy director, the FBI McCabe said to Flynn, you don't need a lawyer.
Well, that would be denying him his constitutional rights, his Miranda rights, and that would be a total and complete setup uh of a veteran that I would argue certainly deserves better treatment than that.
I can only imagine what's going to happen when Sidney Powell gets back in in front of a judge and on behalf of General Flynn.
Um, where do you see this going?
As you hear the comments of Durham and Barr, where do you see this now going?
Well, the first thing I think that based on the Horowitz report, you'll see us continue to do our investigation at Judiciary Committee, and Chairman Graham is doing a good job of that.
Uh, General Durham is looking for what is classified as a criminal action.
What you have in Horowitz is the definition of what were the wrongs, and then the degree of that wrong, if it falls to a criminal action, that is left with General Durham and his team to make that distinction and then to present that report to us and to the Department of Justice.
And we will get that at some point as we move uh on toward the spring.
I think January is probably going to be tied up with uh whatever it is that the House ends up sending us if they are able to get their votes together for impeachment.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn on the other side.
Great Hannity tonight, and your call's coming up next.
As we continue, Marsha Blackburn is with us, the great Senator from the great state of Tennessee.
Believe me, I want this more than anything because there really was a quid and a pro and a quo with Joe and Hunter, zero experience, Hunter being played paid millions, but I am of the mind there's nothing I would like more than to put these guys on trial.
There is such a madness, an illness, a sickness, a psychosis here, that once they present their case, whatever House Managers go over to the Senate and presided over by the Chief Justice uh John Roberts, and I assume they're going to use the federal rules of evidence, which means no hearsay and no opinion witnesses.
That's not going to matter unless you say they're expert.
They will be limited in scope for sure.
And I think very quickly this case falls apart.
And I happen to be of the mind the minute Republicans are ready to acquit, get it out of there.
And some people say, Henry, well, what about Hunter?
I'm like, I agree.
Hunter needs to be investigated.
And the same with quid and pro and quo Joe.
And we also need to get Schiff under oath.
But I don't think that is the form for this reason.
Because they're going to throw 14 other items in while they got some spare time because they don't do anything for the country.
Is there logic to my thinking or is it flawed?
There is logic to your thinking.
And I think there are other ways that we can uh get to what happened with Joe Biden and the government.
No, we have to.
That has to happen.
And you know, and then you go back and look at the uh grand architects of what I call the biggest mom and pop quid pro quo shop ever in history, and that's Bill and Hid Hillary Clinton.
And look at what they did with the Clinton Foundation and with the money that went to that foundation from Russia and uranium won.
And uh the Cypheus review that was conducted on that.
You know, there is a lot of misdeed that has been there.
You are so right about that.
And when you look at what happened with the FBI, when you look at what happened when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, when Joe Biden was vice president, and that all is something that needs to come up.
I will tell you this, Sean.
Um the American people and especially American women, millions of moms out there.
They want things to be fair.
They want the system to work.
They want protections for their families.
They are sick of this bickering up in Congress.
If there is corruption, they say clean it up, but get on with business and stop trying to exercise the politics of personal destruction.
They want to see us do our job and people that have done wrong be held accountable.
All right.
Senator, we appreciate you doing the great job you're doing for the people of Tennessee.
Uh, I think it'll be over quickly.
Thank you, Senator Marsha Blackburn, 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, we'll continue.
I think it is very obvious by the one, the length of the chairman's answer to my question that this has struck a nerve seeing how the chairman himself says it.
in his own words from previous times.
The chairman, it is not the chairman's right to decide whether prior hearings are sufficient, or the chairman's right to decide whether he thinks they're acceptable, or the chairman's right to violate the rules in order to interfere.
It is interesting to me that this time has become the issue.
I've made my ruling and the point of order.
I would lie for the sake of the channel.
I'd like for the sake of history.
The chairman take one more minute.
Does the gentleman wish to appeal the ruling of the chair?
Yes or no?
Yes.
Obviously we're on the clock and calendar impeachment again.
But the chairman is doing this again.
The deal of the ruling of the chair is not sustained.
Um I moved to table.
Did you actually call for a vote?
How is it not sustained?
You didn't call for a vote.
Sustained the point of order.
I sustained the point of order.
I call for a bill of ruling of the chair.
Now you call for a vote.
I call it.
I ruled that the point of order is not well taken.
Well, that's painfully obvious.
I've appealed the ruling of the chair.
And I moved I move to table.
The gentleman has appealed the ruling of the chair.
The gentlelady has moved to table the appeal of the ruling of the chair.
The motion to table is not debatable.
All in favor of the motion to table, say aye.
Aye.
Opposed no.
Nope.
The appeal of the the motion, the appeal of the ruling of the chair is tabled.
That is how corrupt the whole process has been.
And it's it is beyond a circus clown show.
The problem is the severity behind it all.
That's the big part of that.
You know, there's there's you know, Nutty Nadler with his shift show, you know, refusing to give Doug Collins a minority hearing.
And uh, why would they ever do that considering there hasn't been due process from the get-go?
Here say witnesses, uh opinion witnesses, Professor Ivory Tower witnesses, and okay, we're done.
Let's vote.
Impeach them.
And then nobody disagrees.
That's what they said.
Uh all right, let's get to our busy phones here.
Oh, this is our friend Trisha.
Apparently was in the nation's capital today.
She wrote the book about uh all about the tweets, all of Donald Trump's tweets.
By the way, the book sold really well.
Uh I heard you down in Capitol Hill, Linda mentioned earlier.
What happened?
Oh, well, I was in the hearing, and then I went up to uh the floor when when the congressmen were going up the elevator, and I ran into Jerry Nadler, and I just I just couldn't keep my mouth quiet.
I just couldn't.
And I I asked him, I said, why are you trying to defraud the American people?
We voted for this president.
We're 11 months away from an election.
How dare you do this to our president?
And he would say he said nothing.
And I said, you know, I'm here as one person, but I speak for millions, and we've had it, we've had it uh enough.
And I said, Why what are you so afraid of?
Your your candidate is you know, half the time doesn't even know what country he's in, what state he's in, and you think he's a big threat to us?
I don't think so.
So uh Sean, I I mean I've really what did he say back?
Anything?
Nothing, absolutely nothing.
His people tried to stand between us, but then Ben uh was frontline America.
Do you have a video tape of this?
Did anyone tape it?
Well, I I don't know.
I'm hoping Ben's crew got it.
I had my video on, but then I got so worked up honestly.
I hit the wrong button, but there was media all around us, and I let them have it too.
So I don't know if it'll be um on or not, but there's definitely enough uh media in this area that filmed it for sure.
Uh you know, if you get a copy of that, send it to us.
That's it might be something we'd love to throw on TV.
But uh well, good for you for going down there.
And uh these guys walk around the halls of Congress thinking that they're kings and queens, and you know, they ought they're royalty, and we ought to just bow and curtsy and you know, uh kiss their rings.
No, thank you.
Good for you.
Yeah, no, it's disgusting.
And uh the funny thing, Sean, is I was in the IG hearing yesterday, completely empty.
I was in the hearing this morning.
There are tons of things.
Where are the Democrats?
If they're so right, if they love what they're doing and they're so proud of it, where the hell are they?
Why aren't they there for the show?
It's disgusting what they're doing to this country.
It's absolutely disgusting.
Let me tell you, they're hiding Schiff because Schiff can't answer the question what he and his office, what collusion took place, what contact took place, what uh was discussed between him and his staff.
Uh as it relates to the non-whistleblower, whistleblower, hearsay, whistleblower.
So anyway, thank you, Tricia.
All the best.
You have a great time there.
Have fun uh tearing it up in the swamp.
Don't get too dirty.
It gets you know cleaning out the swamp, it gets awfully messy.
Uh all right, let's get back to our phones.
The important swing state Florida Jim is next.
Jim, hi, how are you?
And welcome to the program.
Thank you, sir.
I just was kind of wondering how I. Well, look, I mean, the the IG was was tasked specifically with getting, again, he's the inspector general uh into looking into FISA abuse.
He found it.
He found exactly what I told you he would find, which is that the bulk of the information in the FISA applications was the dirty Russian Clinton bought and paid for dossier put together by somebody that didn't stand by it and by a single subsource who laughed at the idea that anything he ever said would be taken seriously.
Well, I understand that, but I've worked with OIG shops in the past.
I'm a retired criminal investigator.
And I looked up what DOJ IG looks into waste fraud, abuse, and misconduct.
If you drew a lot of people, well, this is the misconduct part.
Well, the misconduct part says nothing about bias either.
That talked about Bureau of Prisons, uh failure to render aid.
I think it's a pretty pretty broad.
I don't know why we're arguing the technicality.
He was tasked with doing it, spent an awful lot of time doing it, came out with a report and was very clear in the hearing yesterday, in spite of Comey clearing that declaring that he had been vindicated anything but the truth from Comey, because Horowitz offered no in uh vindication.
And by the way, if you turned on fake news CNN, if you turned on Anderson Cooper, you know, he said, Well, the inspector general report debunked the president's charges against Comey and so many others.
And he got over there at Area 51 Roswell Rachel Maddow's channel, the conspiracy channel, you know, uh Nicole Wallace suggesting that the former acting director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, a man who is exonerated from the smears of the Okay, but I'm uh but I'm answering your question.
No, no, actually, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
I just think that, you know, uh Horowitz says that there's no bias in the initiation of the investigation.
And right and Durham is trying to do it.
But remember, I explained this yesterday.
He is in a bubble.
Horowitz had he was it's sort of like he was fenced in.
He could only look within the confines as part of his charge and his job description of the DOJ and the FBI.
That was it.
John Durham, he is not restricted in any such way, and was very clear in saying that as his investigation has gone far wide and deep, and the scope of which now has gone before, during, and after, uh, he has said that yeah, I don't agree because I have facts on my side, and and that's the whole thing that he's saying.
Right.
I agree with you.
I totally agree with you.
I just saw I kind of saw it as something where, you know, if if if you're just doing waste, fraud, and abuse, and misconduct, and bias isn't in your your purview, just say I'm not sure.
I understand.
I'm listening.
I again he gave that perspective with a limited, it's sort of like you're in a room and you're locked in the room and you can't leave the room, but outside the room, you would have found everything that would have he didn't get a smoking gun, is what he was saying.
Now, when he said these words, which were crucial, which I was getting to, I think the activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched the Pfizer.
Can you say it wasn't because of political bias?
He says, I don't know their state of mind.
So he was very, very clear in saying that what the way the media mob was spinning it, the way Comey and others were spinning it was total BS.
See, the thing I I looked at is, you know, you're talking about the initiation of this investigation, but in this investigation, you spent you send spies into the Trump administration where regarding mid year exam, you you're going to them and like you're part of the team.
Somebody else hacked your computers and you know, some it's almost like FBI was teaming up with them and being very friendly.
And on this other one, you're taking limited knowledge, just assuming that Trump uh administration or candid candidacy people are colluding with Russians.
And you're you're telling people like General Flynn you don't need a lawyer.
Um it seems like instantly no doubt about it.
I think uh and I think that's why the statements by both the attorney general and by prosecutor Durham were strong as they were.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
We stay in the swing state of Florida.
Ted, next Sean Hannity show.
What's going on?
Thank you very much for taking my call, Sean.
I really appreciate it.
And I appreciate the the few uh conservative talk show hosts like you and the others that uh have brought the truth and the light to the uh to America, which otherwise would be shrouded in darkness by these media idiots who just love to parrot the lies and uh false accusations made by the leading Democrats.
And that's really the point of my call is what can the average American citizen patriot do to punish the mass media.
And the only thing that I can think of are things such as uh finding out who their largest uh advertisers are, and whenever possible, boycott them and let them know that we don't appreciate them supporting a bunch of liars and uh false accusation spreaders.
Um I don't think that the Democrats would have gotten anywhere had if we had had an honest and open media, and that's my biggest problem.
Well, I will tell you it is as dark as agenda driven.
It is everything that we everything they accuse talk show hosts of that are honest and upfront.
They're not honest.
We're honest.
I you know, I am a talk show host.
Now that includes straight news, investigative reporting, opinion, sports, culture, and everything in between.
It includes it all.
We're like the full newspaper.
Now, with that said, they claim to be journalists.
They're anything but they're nothing but an extension of all things of uh that uh revolve around this new radical extreme socialist democratic party.
And it it even pained them to even admit, you know, there's certain things here that look really, really bad, but you know, I'm sure that they're reason for it.
They couldn't even spin out of this as hard as they tried and as much as they would have liked to.
It is now a crisis point in terms of information in this country, and it is so bad, and they are so bad that they the damage that they're doing to this president and the office of the presidency here, and how complicit they are, tied at the hip with the socialist democratic agenda.
Um it's just the the uh the the only good news I can say on that front, and and I hope you take some solace in this, is that I I have one barometer, one poll that I get every single day, and that barometer and that poll often reflects the mood of the public.
And I can tell you straight up that fake news CNN, Area 51 Roswell, Rachel Mannow's conspiracy channel are tanking and dying.
Now, the my interpretation of it is because even their own base that loves to to wallow when they think they have blood in the water.
You know, they think they're I don't know if you ever watch the show.
I love watching Wicked Tuna and uh the the crab show, whatever you deadly deadliest catch.
It's like they think they got them, then they get excited, then they get disappointed and let down again.
They've been lied to for years now, and some people still want to buy the lie, but we have broken story after story and proven to be legitimate, that we've dug down deep hard, and we told you the truth.
And now we're telling you the next phase of the truth, and that is there will be accountability.
It is obvious, or else the attorney general and prosecutor Durham would not be saying the things that they're saying.
But yeah, it's pretty the the best thing you can do is tune them out and tell your friends to watch our show.
Well, they did any of them tell you for two and a half years that the Pfizer applications were based on a dirty Russian dossier that Hillary paid for, and that it was the they're doing just the opposite.
They were busy telling everybody how wonderful it is that they've got a way of thinking Trump.
And uh it's just uh I I I am personally looking for some way of sticking it to them because they have stuck it to us for two and a half, three years now, uh, with impunity.
They don't care about their ratings, obviously, because they have no ratings left anymore.
And uh I've got to find some way to hurt them in the pocketbook.
So that way, you know, we'll catch their attention, I hope.
Well, I listen, it will all I'll tell you the great irony, and the president's actually reflected on this himself.
They'll miss him when he's gone.
Oh, it's over.
It's like it's like their mana from heaven has then been cut off.
I don't know how they survive at that point.
The process has been the speed at which the House Democrats are moving.
If this is, but seriously, though, seriously.
It's been going on for 22 months, okay.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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