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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
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All right, glad you're with us.
Happy Monday.
You know, one thing I realize is the media mob is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to ever, ever go back, examine, be introspective, reflective, decide that, well,
after two and a half years of lies, propaganda, misinformation, conspiracy theories, hoaxes, prayerful wishing, hysterical reporting every second minute hour of every day, you know,
hyperventilation every day that they get Trump.
They're never going to admit that they've done this and done this wrong.
I mean, now that we have the Bruce Ord 302s, I am telling you, this is just now the tip of the iceberg in terms of what we now know happened.
We're going to get into that in the course of the program today.
Nor are they going to stop their hatred of all things Donald Trump.
It's never going to end.
And what we're watching now, what we're witnessing now, is it just is a transfer.
All it is, is whatever the daily talking point happens to be.
There's no crisis as manufactured.
You get Democrats saying it.
You get the media mob saying it.
It's racist, racist, racist.
Stormy, stormy, stormy.
Impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Collusion, collusion, collusion.
It doesn't matter.
They're just going to lock in, lock on, and speak with one unified, sick, twisted, ugly, lying voice every second minute, hour of every day.
I mean, you could look, they just got the biggest beat down.
They had believed it themselves.
They sold it to their audiences, which are now at record lows.
How could you ever trust these people?
You know, creating false hope built around lies that were provable if they ever did any work, if they ever cared for seeking truth.
And now rather than admit, reflect, have introspective moments, realign themselves, get back on the right path, that's not going to happen with these people.
It's just in the media.
They are a mob.
And the mob is out there.
And every day they get their mob talking points.
And the media mob goes out like sheep and they regurgitate whatever it is that the Democratic Party is focused and fixated on that hates Trump that second, that minute, that hour of that day.
You know, I mean, imagine Obama being president and having a host like they do at MSDNC.
You know, Donald Trump has been talking about exterminating Latinos, like the concentration camp analogy.
Well, we sent Griff Jenkins down to the concentration camps at the borders, meaning the detention centers.
No, they're not Auschwitz.
No, there's no extermination of Latinos going on, Nicole Wallace.
No, that's not happening.
And it's just what you have, what did we see?
Oh, we saw food, water, medicine, medical attention, soccer fields, recreation centers.
Let's see, televisions, telephones.
Is it ideal?
No, it's not ideal.
Also, it's safe and it's certainly more secure than our big cities.
Oh, we did have another weekend of violence.
I did not notice any media coverage of the weekend in violence, but we had 40 wounded, 40 shootings in Chicago this weekend.
Oh, well, it's not Dayton.
It's not what happened in El Paso.
They can't go ahead and politicize it.
So let's play.
We can't blame Trump for this.
So why bother talking about it?
Is it the people that they care about, or is it the political weaponization of tragedy that they care about?
Let's see.
33 separate gun incidents in Chicago alone this weekend.
I bet all of you listening to this program, just a guess, never heard that before.
And we have, let's see, eight dead and 40 wounded over the weekend in Chicago.
And I doubt, I haven't heard of any deaths at any detention centers this weekend or concentration camps as they are affectionately known by Democrats.
It's, you know, what it is.
It is what it is.
It is this selective, phony, moral outrage, and it's not going to stop.
This is now full-on, go for it.
They are going to smear, slander, besmirch, attack, bludgeon Donald Trump, his supporters, every second, every minute of every day, because it's not every two years like I told you it used to be,
or every four years like I had told you it used to be.
It is now a 24-7, 365, never-ending mission to destroy Donald Trump.
And now that they've had this epic fail, they're just digging in harder and harder and harder and getting more extreme and more radical and more intense every single day.
You know, the idea, I mean, what happened?
What were we expecting with Robert Mueller?
They were hoping just really for one sentence that they could cling on to like a life raft out in choppy waters out in the ocean in some remote area that will give them some life for impeachment on this Russia lie that they've been peddling.
But they didn't get it.
They thought they had it.
And I hate to tell you something.
Everybody knew that Mueller was not up to testifying.
If I knew it, they knew it.
But they knew it, but they didn't care about Mueller.
They didn't care about, you know, for all intent and purposes, whether I like him or don't like him.
I mean, the guy worked in the FBI, served his country, was a Marine, served in combat.
I mean, then they've lectured us for questioning how his, the hiring of Clinton's lawyer, he didn't even know Clinton's lawyer was on the team, and they knew that too.
He never knew what fusion GPS is.
They knew that too.
They knew he wasn't up for testifying.
They all knew he wasn't up for testifying.
They didn't give a flying rip about Robert Mueller.
They just cared about using him no matter how embarrassing it might be to him that he didn't know as much about his special counsel as he should because they wanted to weaponize him and use it to bludgeon Trump further.
And every two years, every four years, it's Republicans are racist and sexist and misogynistic and homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
And they want dirty air and dirty water and they want children to die.
And they want grandma and grandpa to eat cat food and dog food.
And then when they run out of cat food and dog food, whoever the speaker of the house is, maybe Paul Ryan, Kevin, whoever the leader of the Republicans in the house is, or the president himself, they'll throw Granny over a cliff because they want her to die.
That's their message.
This has worked for them for a long time.
And then the race card has played.
98 Missouri Radio ad.
If you elect Republicans, well, crosses are going to burn.
Or the James Byrd dragging death that was like my father was killed all over again because George Bush didn't support hate crimes legislation.
No, he supported the death penalty for the evil people that dragged this poor innocent man to his death.
He supported the death penalty.
He didn't support the hate crime.
He supported the death penalty, but that's not told.
Or, you know, if you go before a predominantly African-American audience and it's an election year and your name's Al Gore, Republicans have the wrong agenda for African Americans.
They don't even want to count you in the census.
Or if you're Biden, it's going to be, they're going to put you all back in chains.
Or if it's Hillary, you're just going to have this total flip-flop change tone cadence delivery and speeches if you happen to be speaking before a predominantly African-American audience.
The real truth behind, well, do their policies help the people they claim to help?
Well, if you look at Chicago, decades and decades of Democratic politicians running the place, well, it's one of the most unsafe cities in the entire country.
If you look at Baltimore, the numbers we've been giving, decades and decades of Democratic-run policies.
If you look at the minority community under Biden Obama, well, what happened?
Well, minorities in America were disproportionately, negatively impacted by their crappy socialist, redistributionist, share the wealth policies.
And yeah, there was more dependency.
13 million more Americans food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, worst recovery since the 40s, and more debt than 41, than all 43 presidents before Obama combined.
Whoops, see Daisy.
And then Donald Trump.
Let's see.
Oh, the best employment situation since 1969.
You don't hear that from the media that claims Donald Trump is talking about exterminating Latinos in his concentration camps.
This is how sick, ugly, twisted, bizarre it's gotten.
And it's not going to stop.
We are in full 2020 daily beat down Trump election mode.
It is bludgeon, bludgeon, bludgeon.
It doesn't matter that it's selective moral outrage on their part.
You know, why is it Donald Trump has record low unemployment for African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment?
I had a job as a kid kept me out of a whole host of trouble.
How did that happen?
Well, it's called simple conservatism.
And that means, yeah, ending burdensome regulations, the government, getting rid of the high taxation on corporations and individuals.
And lo and behold, 7 million jobs are created, 7 million fewer people on boot stamps.
Now we're energy independent for the first time in 75 years.
That's good for both national security, and that is also good for wealth creation and a rising tide lifting all boats because that means high-paying career jobs and energy could be all ours.
Unless, of course, the new Green Deal ever comes into place.
There's nothing they won't say or nothing they won't do.
There's nothing more out.
There's no lines anymore as it relates to your mob in the media and the Democratic Party.
They have imagine they had what they thought was a layup.
Now, it didn't happen with the House Intel investigation.
It didn't happen with the FBI investigation.
It didn't happen with the bipartisan Senate investigation, but Mueller was it.
Mueller was the layup.
Mueller was the slam dunk.
Mueller was going to be the nail in the coffin.
Well, it didn't work.
So they'll still talk about impeachment, but they've got nothing.
They've had nothing.
So now they've got to find something new to latch onto as quickly as they can in the hopes that no matter what, they've got it.
He can't, he must be stopped.
This is how sick this has gotten.
And this is a psychosis, a rage, a madness that has taken over.
And it is all for what?
So we can institute the new green deal.
Everything's free.
Everything.
Really?
Did we not learn from Obamacare?
That was one aspect of our economy.
Millions lost their doctors in spite of promises.
Millions lost their plans and everybody paid more.
We're going to put windmills in the Hudson and windmills everywhere.
And we're going to get off oil and gas and no more combustion engine and no more airplanes and no more cows.
This is where they want to take the country.
This is madness because that will lead this country into poverty.
Almost instantaneously, it will be that dramatic.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
So we're going to get into everything.
I mean, the number of Biden gaffes this weekend, which we'll get to in the next half hour.
I mean, if Donald Trump had made any of them or look, it should be obvious.
This is now a never-ending campaign season.
It's never going to stop.
There's not going to be any self-reflection.
There's not going to be an apology.
There's not going to be a correction.
They're not going to admit they were wrong.
They're not going to change either.
So they'll go from Russia, Russia, impeach, impeach, collusion, collusion.
They'll go story to story.
It's a stormy, stormy to SOSO to racist, racist, to this, to that, you know, manufactured crisis, manufactured crisis.
That's all they're going to do.
If Democrats really cared, think back.
If I'm wrong, and the race to politicize El Paso, Texas, and Dayton is obvious.
Because if they cared, they would have talked about the violence this weekend.
The 40 shot this weekend, the eight murdered this weekend in Chicago alone.
They haven't.
They won't.
That would then expose liberal cities and liberal governance for the failure to fix the most fundamental of problems.
That is keeping their citizenry safe.
You know, 2019 or eight, 1,249 shooting incidents in Chicago.
I mean, murders, shootings, it's happening.
Why?
Why are we not here?
What?
Baltimore, same thing.
Why are we not hearing it?
Detroit, why don't we hear it?
Why do they, because I'm going to tell you what it's about.
Sadly, for them, it's about politics.
You know, they cared.
Kavanaugh, sexual assault, allegations, that was outrageous.
They were.
They believed.
No, I believers with the credible accusations against the lieutenant governor.
Not one I believer in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Want to talk about Russian interference, Hillary's dirty Russian dossier?
No, it's only if it impacts Trump.
Obstruction, forget about bleach bit, subpoenaed emails, deletions, hammers.
No, that doesn't matter.
You know, if they cared about shootings, why don't they care about the 40 people shot this weekend in Chicago?
Why?
Because they can't bludgeon Trump with it, can they?
Quick break, right back.
We got a lot to get to.
And yeah, we'll hit this whole issue involving Epstein straight ahead.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, 25 to the top of the, if you take liberal logic to its ultimate conclusion, we discussed last week.
And then, of course, Bernie was responsible for this Khaleesh shooting in the ball field and the shooting of others.
Then, of course, Elizabeth Warren and every socialist is responsible for the Dayton shooter.
And if that's the case, every crime committed by every illegal immigrant and every politician that is unwilling to build the wall because it's immoral, every heroin overdose from heroin that crosses that border,
we would, using their logic, blame them.
Every violent incident, every homicide, every rape, every murder, every violent assault would be because they refused to control the border.
That's how they play this game.
Now, if you care about people and shootings and guns, why have they allowed this to go on in every big liberal city in America?
Why?
40 people shot Chicago this weekend.
Nobody talks about it.
So far, 1,249 Chicago shooting incidents.
This year alone.
Decades of liberal ruin.
And nothing is said ever.
You want to talk about sexual assault?
Well, it's only believers coming out and running to the TV cameras, but only if you can bludgeon Trump.
El Paso, that's talked about because you can bludgeon Trump, talk radio, you know, top fold New York Times today.
It's cable news and talk radio that has caused people like the El Paso shooter, the El Paso, Texas shooter.
Well, what about the Dayton shooter?
Well, what about the shootings in Chicago?
Well, what about the shootings in Baltimore?
What about the shootings in the ball field?
Steve Scalise will join us.
It's not intellectually honest.
But, you know, you care about Kavanaugh, the strangest allegations.
You know, every other weekend, the boys would line these girls up in the hall and give them punch that was spiked, and they would line up and take their turns and gang rape young teenage girls every other weekend.
And then it became, well, I never saw Kavanaugh.
I saw him near the punch bowl, and I never saw him give anybody any punch, but I saw he had a red solo cup.
And then it evolved into, well, he was in the hall, but he wasn't lined up in the hall.
And the media went, no, I believe.
Anyone believe the lieutenant governor, the Commonwealth of Virginia?
Because I watched those interviews with Gail King, and I kind of believed that they really need to be investigated.
We'll leave in due process.
Do you care about Russian interference?
Why don't you care about Hillary's dirty dossier?
Well, you can't bludgeon Trump.
You care about obstruction?
Why don't you care about Hillary's, let's see, subpoenaed emails that were erased, bleach bit, hammers, devices, SIM cards?
Why don't you care there?
You can't bludgeon Trump with it.
That's the problem.
That's where their inconsistency is so apparent.
My staff is telling me to go to Kyle in Atlanta, News Talk, 750 WSB, WSB Radio.
What's going on?
How are you, Kyle?
I'm wonderful, Sean.
How are you today?
I'm good, sir.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I was calling to say thank you.
Today would have been my parents' 60th wedding anniversary, and you play an important part in that.
They're both passed on, but about 1991-92, I called and asked you, how do I get on radio?
How do I do what you did while you were in Atlanta?
You called back on the night that I was in.
I was on in Atlanta from 92 to 96 as a local host, yes.
Yeah, correct.
On WTO.
I know it's 96 because the Atlanta Journal Constitution had a year-end edition.
1996 was a great year.
The Olympics came and Sean Hannity left.
Correct.
Well, you, in my eyes, helped me through a very terrible time.
You said some, you called and you said, hey, I want to talk to you.
And I said, it's not a good time.
I apologize.
And you're like, what's wrong?
You did.
You were very nice.
You said, what's wrong?
What's going on?
And I told you my parents, there was some infidelity.
And you said, I said, I feel like it's my fault.
And you said, hey, hold on a second.
You said a prayer for me.
You said, Kyle, God will get you through this.
Stay the path.
Work hard and follow your dreams and do not let this distract you.
And I know that sounds simple and easy to have said, but it left an indelible mark on me just to keep plowing through.
And it really, I swear, every day on this day, I think of what you said to me that night, and it meant the world to me.
And I've always wanted to say thank you, but today you answered it.
I appreciate it.
Well, I'm going to tell you a quick story because it also happened when I was in Atlanta, and you're very kind to say so.
You know, look, all of us as human beings, we're going to have tough days.
Nobody gets a pass.
You know, everyone says, well, the rich, no, no, no, no.
I don't know a rich person that doesn't have the same problems as everybody else.
The only thing they have is money.
And sometimes that causes even more problems than it's maybe even worth.
But we all, the human experience is one where we're all going to struggle in this pain in this world.
And it's, I believe, all part of a process.
And how we deal with obstacles and difficulties in life begins to define us and define our character and who we are.
And I think that there's nobody that gets a pass in this life.
Nobody.
Absolutely.
You are going to have troubles.
You're going to have struggles.
You're going to have tough days.
You're going to have, you know, but the more I have found in my life that you get as older, you get, you're able to absorb the hits.
You know, there are people in my industry, I can tell you right now, can't take a punch.
You're not meant to be in this business if you can't take a criticism.
You can't, you're not going to survive.
You can't be true to who you are if you can't take that punch.
Well, your words left an indelible mark.
I appreciate it.
And I just wanted to thank you.
Well, I'm very honored you called.
Thank you for staying with me all these years.
And, you know, my many prayers and blessings to you and your family.
And if I helped in any way, I'm glad I could.
Absolutely.
I'd like to know I have some positive impact in this world somehow, someplace, some way.
And it means a lot to me.
Thank you.
Wow, that was nice.
That's why you guys kept saying, go to Kyle.
Go to Kyle.
Everyone needs to know how good of a person you are, Sean.
Okay.
Did you take some pills today?
Are you smoking dope in there?
What are you guys doing?
Did you drink the moonshine today?
The moonshine's all gone.
All gone.
You know, there was an instance in Atlanta where a guy called my radio show.
This wasn't it, obviously, but and the guy called to say goodbye.
And I'm like, why?
What are you moving?
Where are you going?
What's happening?
You changed your life.
It was a regular caller, which is a little more common in local radio.
And I said, what's up?
And he said, no, I'm checking out.
What do you mean you're checking out?
And he's like, no, no, no, I'm done.
I can't take it anymore.
And I'm like, well, what's going on here?
And he said he had taken a bunch of pills and swallowed a fifth of gin or whatever he was drinking.
And I remember Eric Seidel, my program director at the time, he knew instantaneously this was serious, called in, said, don't let this guy off the phone.
Call the police, get his location.
No matter what you do, keep him on the line and see if we can find out where he is.
Anyway, long story short, we kept him on the phone, tried to remind him, you know, there's always going to be obstacles, tough days.
Think of your kids.
Think of what you love in life.
Think of, you know, the best times you've had in your life.
You'll have them again.
We all go through these tough times.
And what happened was eventually, I said, just tell me where you are.
I promise you, we'll get you some help.
Let me help you out.
He gives his location.
Then I realized the power of radio in that moment.
Within seconds, within seconds, the location, he was there.
He gave the right location.
A, I mean, it just cars descended on that place.
Everybody wants to help the guy.
An ambulance was listening.
They want to help the guy.
And it turned out that he had done that, that he had taken all those pills, that he did drink what he said he drank.
I talked to him afterwards, sometime after, and he, you know, he was nice to me, but it was really all those people that were willing to just run and help people.
And they ended up, and I realized at that moment, there's a responsibility being on the air.
And we tried to take, I don't take myself seriously.
I take that part of it seriously.
And thank God he was okay.
And as time went on, he had done better and better and better.
And, you know, people have tough times in life.
People have tough days, tough backgrounds, tough experiences.
These are tough times.
I will tell you, you know, to read the newspaper, to watch, you know, people compare concentration camps, really, with detention centers.
We look at the detention centers and it's not perfect, but I mean, soccer fields, TVs, telephones, medical supplies, cots, blankets, baby formula, diapers, whatever you need.
No violence, like at other places.
You've got this, this never, you know, Donald Trump.
This is what NBC News is reporting, allowing an anchor to talk about Donald Trump's talking about exterminating Latinos.
President Obama used the power of the presidency to try to pass comprehensive immigration reform with the Latino community, Latina leaders at the table.
You don't have a president, as you said, talking about exterminating Latinas.
That is so off, just like the analogy of concentration camps.
So the New York Times top fold article today, their analysis tying the El Paso killers rhetoric in conservative media.
Well, okay, then do the same thing with the Bernie Sanders supporter that shot Steve Scalise and others, and do the same with the Warren supporter in Dayton.
And if you're going to take it that far, then why don't you examine those that don't support the wall?
Every murder, every homicide, every drug deal, every heroin overdose of any drugs that come over, let's blame them there.
Or Donny Deutsch, another NBC genius.
You own the blood, you Trump supporters.
I mean, it's weird.
No, I don't want to play.
Or Elizabeth Warren claiming Michael Brown in Ferguson was murdered.
No, he wasn't murdered.
The eyewitnesses, one after another, after another, after another, after another, confirmed Aaron Wilson's account.
He was not murdered.
But this, it doesn't matter.
It's all about Trump.
It's all about hurting Trump.
You know, look at Biden's disastrous days just over the weekend.
I mean, it got so bad.
I mean, him saying that poor kids are just as bright as white kids.
Challenge these students.
We should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these schools.
We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it.
Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.
Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.
I really mean it, but think how we think about it.
Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.
And then he says, I'll take truth over facts.
And ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get up.
Everybody knows who Donald Trump is.
Even his supporters know who he is.
We got to let them know who we are.
We choose unity over division.
We choose science over fiction.
We choose truth over facts.
Stop right there.
We choose truth over facts.
And that's not the end of his weekend.
Then he said he was the vice president during the 2018 Parkland shooting.
Those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president.
Oh, boy.
I watch what happens.
Now, don't play it again.
Then he says, you know, he mentioned former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher when he was wanting to talk about the German Chancellor Merkel.
I actually think he wanted to talk about Theresa May.
That was more my interpretation.
You know, he seemed to attribute Martin Luther King Jr.
quote to Barack Obama.
As Barack says, you know, we bent the arc, the curve towards justice.
A poor white kid, poor kids are just as bright as white kids.
He expresses condolences for shooting victims in Houston and Michigan.
Okay, that's not where they took place.
He was talking about El Paso, and then he was also talking about Dayton.
And then he says, you know, what he said about the poor kid.
Then he, I mean, it just goes on and on.
You know, you can't get a job at a 7-Eleven or Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
And, you know, here's storybook, man.
He's clean and articulate.
And, you know, wow.
Storybook talking about then.
And by the way, then his history of supporting segregation and then his mentors.
Yeah, he had a lot of great things to say about the former Klansman Bird.
And then he didn't want busing and integration.
And, you know, then he, you know, touts the success of the assault weapons ban.
But the truth, you know, well, that's not exactly true either.
Then he's getting testy with an Iowa student.
It's pretty bad.
One other thing I want to get to, we're going to have an update on the deep state coming up in the program today.
But look, I don't know what happened in this Epstein case.
People are asking me all weekend, what happened?
I don't know.
I agree with the Attorney General Barr.
I mean, this was the Manhattan Correctional Center was the place where they put El Chapo.
And El Chapo, that was the place that he wasn't going to escape from, nor did he.
Now, the Attorney General, rightly pointing out serious irregularities at the federal pen in Manhattan, he says, we're going to get to the bottom of this and there will be accountability.
He also said any co-conspirators should not rest easy.
The victims deserve justice.
And I believe that the Southern District of New York has a case or else they wouldn't have brought it.
And they will get it.
And then he said, you know, the most important part of this is the victims here who had the courage to come forward and deserve the opportunity to confront the accused.
How did this happen?
And we're going to check in with Bernie Carrick, who used to run New York prisons before he became police commissioner.
But there are serious irregularities.
And, you know, but I don't know what happened.
I know that this guy, for whatever reason, probably his money had a lot of ties to a lot of people.
There's a lot of conspiracy theory.
I don't know.
No idea.
But I do know that we have the ability to keep alive any prisoner we want to keep alive.
And, you know, somebody's negligent.
Do I think there's some grand conspiracy?
No, probably whatever evidence, they already got it on other people if they might have been associated with Epstein.
But you can't allow stuff like this to happen.
You just can't.
And even the most hardened criminals, you got to protect them to get to the truth in all of this.
But I don't know what it is.
Hopefully we'll get to it.
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfook from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
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All right, a lot of news when we get back.
Yeah, of course, the double standard exists.
These 302s, Bruce Orr, tip of the iceberg, massive insight we can glean from them.
We have Greg Jarrett Tom Fitton coming up, Steve Scalise, who was shot.
He doesn't blame Bernie Sanders.
And what's going on with Epstein?
Bernie Carrick will also check in as we move along on this busy Monday.
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfook from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This sex trafficking case was very important to the Department of Justice and to me personally.
It was important to the dedicated prosecutors in the Southern District of New York and to our FBI agents who investigated the case and were preparing it for trial.
Most importantly, this case was important to the victims who had the courage to come forward and deserve the opportunity to confront the accused in the courtroom.
I was appalled, and indeed the whole department was, and frankly, angry to learn of the MCC's failure to adequately secure this prisoner.
The victims deserve justice and they will get it.
Wow, powerful remarks of the Attorney General 800-941 Sean is our toll-free telephone number, hour two.
A lot to get to.
Now, the Attorney General slammed also the serious irregularities at what is known as the Manhattan Correctional Center.
By the way, this was the place that was so secure, the only jail they believed on the East Coast that could possibly hold El Chapa, who had already escaped from Mexican jails on two separate occasions.
And in the wake of Jeffrey Epstein's death, the promise, as you heard from the Attorney General, is if you are complicit, if you are a co-conspirator, don't rest easy because this case is not stopped in light of Epstein's death.
And what the Attorney General also said, serious irregularities at this institution in Manhattan, where he committed allegedly suicide.
We'll get to the bottom of what happened.
There will be accountability, he said.
He was speaking before law enforcement at a gathering in New Orleans.
He also had a warning for those people involved, co-conspirators, and he's delving deeper into this every single day.
And, you know, listen, if we don't stop the people that, you know, commit crimes against children, and it raises a lot of questions from the get-go.
But Epstein lawyers, they've now hired criminal defense attorneys.
Not exactly sure what that is all about.
We know that there is a long list of people that are prominent and well-known from Hollywood through the political world, Bill Clinton in particular.
We know there was 15 years ago, there was a falling out that Trump threw this guy out of Mar-a-Lago.
We don't know the exact circumstances surrounding that.
There had been varying reports on whether or not, you know, the extent of the relationship with Bill Clinton, that he was listed as a passenger on 26 flights on his plane in 2002 and three, and several of the flights appear to be legs of a larger trip with multiple stops.
So I'm not exactly sure what his relationship was, and I'm not going to speculate.
Unlike everybody else in the media, we don't rush to judgment.
We're going to wait for the facts to come out.
And, you know, Epstein isn't in this particular case.
I think what they need, they probably already have that Epstein's lawyer did request that he be taken off suicide watch after the incident a couple of weeks ago.
There is a New York Post article.
I'm a little sympathetic to this because I remember my mom who worked as a prison guard in Nassau County.
She was required to do 16-hour shifts, sometimes six, seven days in a row.
I mean, they never had enough personnel.
And one of the things in the New York Post said the Epstein's guards were working extreme overtime because there was so short staff.
But in that sense, you can't blame the officers at that point.
New York officials, there was a New York Post story how something doesn't smell right.
It's not Epstein's dead body, you know, that they're talking about the circumstances of what it means.
I'm not going to get into the speculation game at all.
I have no idea what happened.
But I do, it's something we better get to the bottom of.
Joining us now is Bernie Carrick.
He is the former police commissioner of the NYPD, and also he was in charge of all of these prisons, including Rikers, for some five years.
He understands more than anybody what goes on there.
Also, Bill McGrarty is with us, and he is the former lieutenant commander of the NYPD Counterterrorism Unit.
Thank you both for being with us.
Bernie, I've talked to you at length about my mom's work, but they made this poor woman work 16-hour shifts sometimes for months and months and months and months in a row.
I'm a little sympathetic if they were doing that in this case, but if they were, that's no excuse if these guys were tired.
Why didn't they staff the place properly?
Yeah, well, it's no excuse, Sean.
Here's the thing.
I'm not making one, by the way.
I'm not.
Yeah, no, I get it.
These are security posts.
And, you know, unlike in other law enforcement positions, you can do without certain cops or certain positions during a tour in a jail or prison security post you cannot do without.
So they have to be manned.
A lot of times that encompasses overtime.
But even if they're on overtime, they're still mandated to do bed checks every 15 to 30 minutes.
And those checks consist of looking into the cells.
There are no beds.
There are no bars in that housing unit where this guy was.
It's a solid steel door with a four-inch window.
They look into the cell.
They have to see a body, and that body has to be breathing.
If they can't see he's breathing, they will actually wake him up to make sure he's alive.
If they weren't doing those checks, there's a problem.
And when you listen to the attorney general say irregularities, the first thing I think of is bed checks, cameras, surveillance, supervision.
Those are the things that I would think of coming to mind as somebody that ran the largest jail system in the country.
How did it happen that it was in isolation after a suicide attempt?
I read your article on The Hill.
That would not have been normal practice if you were in charge.
Why?
No, well, after suicide's an attempt, you'd have him on suicide watch, and then you put him in with a buddy system, called the buddy system.
You'd have somebody in the cell with him.
Now, I have to tell you, one of the things that concerns me is they had him with somebody in a cell, except that guy happened to be an upstate New York cop that has alleged to have killed four people.
Why you would put him in a cell with that guy, I don't know.
And I will tell you that.
It is true.
And you would know better than anybody that in prison, there are certain things that prisoners themselves, they have their own code of justice, if you will.
Maybe I'm not saying it the right way, but if you go to prison and you come in as a rat, somebody that they view as a rat, the odds are pretty good they're going to hate your guts.
If you come in as a pervert pedophile, they're going to hate your guts.
Is that true?
That's true.
So when you were the commissioner, what did you do when those cases came up?
You'd have to put these guys in administrative segregation.
Now, he was segregated.
He was in the shoe, what they call the special housing unit.
It's nine south.
That's a cell that's about eight by twelve, maybe eight by fifteen.
It has two bunk beds, one on top of the other.
Nothing else in that cell.
There's no bars.
There's no hooks.
If he asphyxiated, as they say, he did so from the, you know, hanging from the bunk bed.
And I can tell you, Sean, I've listened to people say that can't happen.
Well, that's nonsense.
There's over 3,000 suicides in the U.S. prison systems, jail systems every year.
You can hang yourself from a three-foot bar, from a three-foot hook, and you can kill yourself.
To be honest, how?
How do you do that?
Well, what happens?
Listen, I'll give you one example.
I had a guy in the Manhattan House of Detention probably in 1997, took a pair of socks, a pair of black nylon socks, strapped them around his neck, pulled it as a ligature around his neck, laid back in the bed on his back, and killed himself himself by himself without no hooks,
no nothing.
It can be done.
So for people to say, oh, it's impossible, it is not impossible, believe me.
Bill, what's your take on all of this?
Well, I agree with the commissioner, but what stands out to me, Sean, you took the words right out of my mouth.
You know, the high officials of the Manhattan Correctional Center have the highest profile inmate in their center since El Chapo.
Now, Commissioner, I know you will agree with me on this.
In the NYPD, the correction facilities, if you have high-profile incidents or persons, there should have been special attention, extra manning put on, extra supervisors, some sort of special attention detail.
And he tried to commit suicide a couple weeks before.
And how do you put him in the special housing unit with just minimum manning?
It's profound to me.
And I don't want to jump to conclusions, but a lot of questions that have to be answered about the cameras not working, the minimum manning.
Something should have been done having this high-profile person in your facility.
Well, they were able to take care of El Chapo, right, Bill?
I mean, if he can...
Exactly.
I mean, El Chapo, I guarantee there wasn't minimum manning around El Chapo, right?
He broke out of that Mexican facility where they dug.
They had a camera in his cell 24 hours, and he dug his way out.
Here you have Epstein with connections to some of the biggest people around the world, 24-hour news coverage, and you have two guards working, both on overtime.
No extra supervisors, no extra special detail.
Profound.
Profound to me.
Bernie, how would you have handled it being the commissioner?
Well, listen, you would have a supervisor on site for somebody like this.
It's not only his profile, it's the charges.
It's also his history.
What he's already done.
They found a phony passport in a safe, supposedly in Manhattan.
So he was looking to flee, right?
He attempted suicide.
Did he really attempt suicide or was he looking to get to a hospital?
All these things have to be taken into consideration.
And I agree with Bill.
I mean, it's just common sense.
You would have had extra supervision to oversee his movement and his bed checks.
And for some reason, none of that worked.
And I think the Attorney General is absolutely right in being outraged that something like this could happen.
What about the shortage of workers?
Did you experience that when you were in charge and you were the prison commissioner?
Just about every jail or prison system around the country.
Because nobody wants to work in them.
I mean, honestly, my mom did it 25 years.
It's hard work.
It's a rough job.
It's a dangerous job.
It's a hard job.
And, you know, the turnover is great.
And, you know, you're always going to have staffing issues.
The bottom line is you can move people around and you can Get rid of people on certain posts.
But security posts such as this, you need mandatory manpower, and they have to be there.
And I don't care if they're on overtime or not, those individual bed checks are mandatory.
I remember my mom explaining.
I mean, that's what she did all night, all night long, when she would work midnight to 8 a.m. shift or 4 to 12, then 12 to 8 a.m.
I mean, those are brutal hours.
And that was what her job was when they were sleeping.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, we continue with former NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerric is with us.
Also, former Lieutenant Commander of the NYPD Counterterrorism Unit, Bill McGrordy.
And let me ask you this.
Anybody that is in a place like Rikers or any one of these, you know, think of the harder prisons that we have.
Obviously, you're dealing with the most violent at times.
How is this whole segregation deter?
How are these determinations made?
Here's what happens, Sean.
A determination is made based on the security risk, a threat to the institution, a threat to staff, a threat to themselves, or an escape risk.
Those things right there is how the determination is made where the housing is going to be.
Now, this guy wasn't a threat to staff or the institution.
He could have been placed in administrative segregation, like a celled area where he's around the desk where they can keep an eye on him 24 hours a day, physically, see him through the bars.
That's one of the ways a Rikers admin SEG was done like that.
You put him in with other guys in the same classification as he was, put him in there, they keep an eye on him, and it also keeps an eye on him.
That way, the guy is never alone.
He's always monitored, and you don't run into these problems.
But to take a guy, there's no worse thing you could do than take a suicidal inmate, pick him in solitary confinement.
I think maybe I've watched too many of these shows, but I mean, I know they do shakedowns of these prisons, these, you know, these cells in particular.
And, you know, these guys have, they're pretty creative, and there are murders in prison.
You got the most violent, and it still happens, drugs in prison.
It still gets in.
And Bill, I just, I can't believe we haven't added maybe the degree to which technology can keep everybody up to speed in terms of at night, if it's a little extra noisy or somebody's doing something, you're going to be able to look right there on the monitor and see it.
You're right.
And Sean, you talk about things that get in.
You know, it was reported in a local paper up by me on July 25th that Epstein's cellmate to tag Leon on July 3rd, when they removed him, they did a shakedown, they found a cell phone in his jail cell.
It was reported on the 25th.
Now, like I said before, you don't want to jump to conclusions, but this is a suspicious death that needs to be investigated.
And there's a lot of things that need to be looked at, such as, you know, the visitors to the facility, you know, the cell phone that was found on Tataglion, DNA evidence.
Is there any DNA under his fingernails?
Things like that.
A lot of questions have to be answered.
And I had full faith in Barr and the Inspector General that they'll get to the bottom of this.
All right.
Thank you both for being with us.
Appreciate it.
Commissioner Bernie Kerrigan and Bill McGrarty is with us.
Former Lieutenant Commander, NYPD Counterterrorism, 800-941-Sean, toll for a telephone number.
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Steve Scalise on this blame game over shootings.
We have a new development.
Prosecutors now say that the Dayton shooter had a co-conspirator.
We'll get to that.
When I think about that day two years ago.
You're just getting very, very scant details, but it appears that something has happened at a congressional ballgame.
Steve Scales has been shot.
Aides say he was practicing baseball early this morning in Alexandria, Virginia.
When he arrived, he was in critical condition with an imminent risk of death.
Congressman Scalise is a friend.
He's a patriot.
And he's a fighter.
There were dark days when I wasn't sure if I was going to make it.
I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to walk again.
But throughout that whole time, just the constant flow of prayers, the love, and the support, it was incredibly powerful.
But I always had a constant drive.
I wanted to get back to work.
I wanted to go back to doing the things I loved again.
The legend from Louisiana, Congressman Steve Scalise.
And ultimately, I was able to go back out on that ball field on the one-year anniversary.
Ground ball to second.
Scalise throws him out at first from his knees.
The entire infield, the entire field goes over to congratulate him and give him a big hug.
How about that?
For the very first pitch, he gets the ground ball and throws out Ruiz at first base.
What a moment.
You know, when I look back as we embark upon this two-year anniversary, I still have a lot of emotions, but a lot of special feelings for the friends, the heroes, the miracles, and all of you who prayed.
Just, you know, even if we don't know this guy we're praying for him and we want to get better.
And I am better.
I keep getting better every day.
Well, first of all, my heart breaks as everybody's does when you see what happened.
There's no place for it.
Whether it's somebody that's racist, that hates a certain ethnic group.
There's no place for those kind of attacks and attacking people based on their ethnicity.
But to try to assign blame to somebody else, I think, is a very slippery slope because the president's no more responsible for that shooting as your next guest, Bernie Sanders, is for my shooting.
And he's not, by the way, responsible.
The shooter is responsible.
What we need to do is find out those people that have slipped through the cracks.
And we've seen it in shooting after shooting, Sutherland Springs, Charleston, even in Dayton.
He had a hit list and a rape list.
And yet none of that was in the system.
Let's make sure these background check systems work properly and are rooting out the people that shouldn't be able to legally purchase a gun, but currently are because the system hasn't worked.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
It's never been this bad, this intense, this early.
Don't think that anything in every insane accusation that you hear is to ratchet up emotions, to get everybody all worked up any way they can so that their political agenda,
so they're going to get their base to come out and vote because they think that, oh, what do they say over at MSDNC?
That Trump is talking about exterminating Latinos.
That actually was said by a host on MSDNC.
And it goes for, it gets worse and worse and worse and worse.
And of course, then you have the bet middlers, the Hollywood stars that I'm sure all have their own and can pay for their own armed guards.
And hey, NRA, how many lives did you take today?
Collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia.
It's just a different day, different talking point, but same rhetoric, and it's all designed to work people up into a frenzy and maybe successfully.
I mean, the idea that the New York Times top fold today is out there in their analysis trying to tie the beliefs and the manifesto of this El Paso shooter to conservatives on radio and TV is absurd.
It is, well, then if that's the logic, then the Elizabeth Warren supporter, socialist, and Dayton, well, Elizabeth Warren is the one responsible there.
Or in the case of Steve Scalise, and we know what happened.
And Steve Scalise, many of you may not know, and he's going to join us in a second.
He nearly died that day.
I forget how many transfusions he was getting, but he was getting a lot.
And there were moments where they didn't think this was going to, that he was going to make it in all of this.
Or, you know, Donny Deutsch over there at MSDNC, you know, to Trump supporters, you own the blood.
You got to understand they're in a very difficult, frustrated place now because their two and a half year conspiracy theories, it fell flat on its face.
It always was going to.
Anybody that had any discerning, objective eye could see where this was all going.
You know, there's a reason we're right on this show.
We were right about Duke La Crosse, right about UVA, right about the Cambridge police.
Why early in my career I was right about Richard Jewell.
You know, the reason we're right is we actually do real work and real investigative reporting and real phone calls.
And we actually take the time to, like in the Duke LaCrosse case, to drive out to Garden City, Long Island and meet with the kids and the families instead of rushing to judgment.
Saw it with the Kavanaugh case.
We saw it with this kid, Nicholas Sandman, the only one that is being intellectually honest as it relates to a shooting or a shooter, whatever their sick, twisted, evil, ugly ideology happens to be.
It's still evil.
It's still sick.
And you can't say, well, just because it's a Bernie Sanders supporter, Elizabeth Warren supporter, or a Trump supporter, or somebody that listens to talk radio or watches Fox News.
Oh, they respond.
They did it.
They did it.
They did it.
The real anger is on the left.
The real rage is on the left right now.
Anyway, Steve Scalise is with us.
Thank God he is.
What he went through in that ball field that day.
How many blood transfusions did you end up having, Congressman, at that time?
Hey, Sean.
How are you?
We're glad you're with us.
And always good to be back with you.
Look, I mean, I had, I had lost, I literally had a zero blood pressure when I showed up at the hospital, and my trauma surgeon told me it took 20 units of blood, which the normal body maybe has about I almost didn't make it, and thank God a lot of things went the right way for me,
and I was able to pull it out.
Did your doctors tell you how close you were to death?
Because I was making as many phone calls as I could to see what was going on there.
And I remember one guy said it's very touch and go.
He's now on at that time like your ninth transfusion, which was never good.
Yeah, my trauma surgeon told me after we kind of had a long talk about what really went on those first two days.
And he said, especially the first night, he said there were two different times where he wasn't sure if I was going to make it.
And, you know, there was a lot of internal damage.
There were a lot of organs that were shredded.
The bullet, you know, it's a .762 caliber bullet that went into me and it broke into well over 100 pieces.
And so it's just slicing through arteries and organs, and they had to literally just piece things back together one at a time.
And, you know, you sew one thing up and you see blood coming out of a different place.
And so that was going on throughout the entire first night.
So one of the things in the midst of tragedy, in the midst of evil, even, and I know you don't blame Bernie Sanders for the fact that it was a Bernie Sanders supporter shooting you.
And I said so at the time.
I don't blame Bernie Sanders.
I don't blame Elizabeth Warren for Dayton.
And I don't blame the president or Talk Radio or Fox News, which is what the New York Times is trying to do today for what happened in El Paso.
But in the midst of this, we, you know, think back to 9-11, all those guys, first responders, cops and firemen, going up when everybody else is going down the stairs and trying to get the hell out of there.
But they did it.
They knew the risks, and yet they love their fellow man so much they're willing to take that risk.
In your case, you had two officers, if I remember their name, I think it was David Bailey and Crystal Greiner.
I mean, I never saw anything like it because, you know, I'm familiar with the use of a firearm.
I've been a pistol marksman since I'm 10.
But for them to walk out with pistols when your shooter had a long rifle at a distance and had cover, and they walked right out into the middle of an open field.
It's almost the odds are 99% you're going to get killed in that situation.
I chronicled it in my book back in the game.
I mean, you literally look at that section in the book where I went into detail about what David had to go through at first base.
And anybody that knows a baseball diamond, the shooter's hiding behind the third base dugout.
David's on first base, basically, wide open, exposed, in a shootout.
The shooter's got, like you said, an SKS rifle with those kind of caliber bullets.
David's got a handgun, and he's got bullets literally whizzing by him.
And he takes the shooter away from us and ultimately was able to move the shooter and then take the shooter down with the help of Virginia police, while Crystal Griner had her ankle blown out by a massive gunshot, and David was shot as well.
So both of them were shot, just like you talked about the 9-11 heroes running towards danger when people were running away.
David and Crystal ran towards the danger and saved me and saved all of us on that field.
All right, quick break.
More with House Republican whip Steve Scalise, Louisiana, when we come back.
All right, as we continue with House Republican Steve Scalise talking about the blame game as it relates to these shootings that occur.
What do you make of the environment now?
Look, I'm on this program every two and four years.
It's predictable in terms of the tactics, the use of the race card.
I mean, I can chronicle it all.
In 1998, a Democratic Missouri radio ad, if you elect Republicans, black churches are going to burn and crosses are going to burn.
And then it's the James Byrd ad in 2000.
It was like my father was killed all over again.
George Bush supported the death penalty for those responsible for that evil, heinous murdering death of James Byrd when they dragged this man behind a truck.
We know it when Al Gore says Republicans have the wrong agenda for African Americans and they don't want to count you in the census.
Then we have, of course, Joe Biden.
You know, they want to put you all back in chains and white folks' greed runs a world in need.
Now we find out that there was a picture of Louis Farrakhan with Barack Obama hidden for eight years, but it happens predictably every two and four years, but now it's happening almost every day.
So I guess because I relate this to the fact that they failed to take out Trump with these investigations in the Mueller report.
Yeah, it really is disgraceful.
And you see it, I mean, you know, in some of the churches and just in some of the rallies where they're saying things that are outrageous, you know, and they can say anything they want about a Republican and the mainstream media will give them a free pass.
You know, and then you see what Joe Biden said, whether it's, you know, poor kids versus, you know, all of this stuff.
I mean, he even said the other day that he was vice president when Parkland happened and he remembered the kids coming to his office.
Well, he wasn't vice president when it happened and the kids didn't come to his office and yet they can just say this and they get a free pass and the mainstream media blames everything on Trump.
And, you know, and look, thank goodness we got a president who's strong and tough and he just keeps doing his job, helping people.
You know, best, as you know the numbers, I mean, best opportunities for people of any demographic, white, black, Hispanic.
This is the best time for you to live the American dream because of what Donald Trump's doing, and yet they still say this.
What is the best way then, do you think, to counter this predictable playbook?
Well, Sean, I think you've got to confront it with truth and facts.
And just, you know, people out there that are watching, I think they get all of this.
When they see these Hollywood phonies saying all of this stuff, and then they're all going to leave and go to Canada, and they never leave and go to Canada.
People look at that and they just roll their eyes, but the mainstream media plays it up.
And so we have to have confidence in the American people.
When you go to a state like Pennsylvania, as the president's going to keep doing, you know, the swing states that are going to decide the election next year, you go there and you see people that are working that weren't working.
You see people that look at Donald Trump and they know that he's the one that's fighting for them when nobody else was fighting for him.
And they see him getting attacked for it.
And they're with Trump.
And, you know, they might not show up sometimes.
They might not have shown up last year in the elections, but they're going to show up next year because they believe in Donald Trump and they see the good things that he's doing and they tune out all of this madness.
I mean, when you see the ratings for CNN, is it any surprise that they're ratings?
I try to tell people this because for whatever reason, the angrier they get, the more shrill that they are, the more incendiary their comments get, the lower their ratings goes.
I mean, they don't have a single show, Steve, not one, with over a million viewers.
If I have a night under three, three and a half, it's a bad night.
You didn't have a good night that night.
I've heard, Sean, that C-SPAN some hours gets bigger ratings than CNN.
And if you watch us on C-SPAN, you've got to say, by the way, somebody's, there's more.
I used to be watching Bob Dorn and B1 Bob do special orders.
I was probably one of them.
Well, we're glad you're with us.
Thanks for putting that perspective on it.
And having lived it, it just adds a lot of potency to the truth, which is individuals are responsible for their behavior, and nobody is inspiring anybody.
And if we're going to say that's true, then they're responsible for their side.
And of course, they wouldn't accept that responsibility.
Right.
And I've been very clear, as you pointed out, Bernie was not responsible.
Not at all.
Bernie wouldn't do that to anybody.
Neither would President Trump.
Neither would you.
The shooter is not responsible.
All right, Steve Scalise.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
That last point I think is important.
Why do you terminate your direct relationship with Christopher Steele and then encourage a top Justice Department official to keep meeting with him and then coming and briefing you about each of those meetings and each of those conversations?
So that's point number one.
It seems to me you're trying to hide something or try to camouflage something when you do that.
Second, why do you do 302s?
You do 302s because you're out to get someone.
And we know they weren't out to get Bruce or they're out to get someone else.
Who are they out to get?
The president of the United States.
Look at the 12302s and notice the dates.
There's three bursts.
There's the burst right after the election.
There's the burst right after the inauguration.
And then there's the ones in May right after the special counsel is named.
So this all just shows they were out to go after the president of the United States.
And never forget the guy who was leading the investigation said, Clinton should win $100 million to zero.
Don't worry, Lisa, we'll stop Trump.
We got an insurance policy.
So that's the key takeaway.
And you've been on this for a couple years, but when you now put this all together, it seems pretty clear what they were up to.
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We have now the Bruce Orr 302s, and we are not giving up our investigation into the investigators.
Quite the contrary.
Everything now is beginning to fall into place.
And what it means is that this gives real confirmation.
We've spent two and a half years telling you that there is a whole truthful narrative that it differs greatly from what it is that the 99% of the conspiracy theorists on TV and the Democratic Party were pushing.
We've now had four separate investigations.
There is and has been and never was any Trump-Russia collusion.
Never happened.
Four separate investigations now, including the Mueller report.
We have pointed out the double standard.
We have a rigged investigation into Hillary.
It is, there's no doubt whatsoever.
The evidence, James Comey himself laid it out July 5th, 2016.
Top secret, classified special access information on Hillary Clinton's server.
Greg Jarrett has laid out every law that was broken when she put that information on a mom and pop shop server in a bathroom closet.
And then subpoenaed emails, the deletions, the bleach pit, the hammers, the SIM cards removed.
All of that happened.
Then we find out that, well, with all of the time and the broadest mandate ever given to a special counsel following the independent counsel statute that, of course, people like Jerry Nadler didn't like.
He didn't want the Star Report, for example, released, although the law required it.
The law did not require that Attorney General Barr open up to the public anything regarding the Mueller report.
Nothing.
He had no obligation whatsoever to open a thing to anybody, but he gave us everything.
And then the testimony of Mueller, which was an unmitigated disaster because the Democrats were hoping and praying that he might slip up and just say one thing that they could latch on to and say, all right, impeach, impeach, impeach.
They didn't get it, but they're still saying it.
If Donald Trump cures cancer, they're still going to hate him.
But when you looked at a rigged investigation so a presidential candidate survives, that happened.
So many upset in the Democratic Party, the media mob, that obstruction, well, there might be obstruction.
Well, there was no underlying crime.
And the fact that the president vented publicly about maybe firing Mueller, didn't fire Mueller, and he had the constitutional authority under Article II to fire Mueller is meaningless.
But they ignore her obstruction.
They care about Russia, but they didn't care about a dossier that we now know.
The FBI spreadsheet showed was debunked over 90 some-odd percent of it.
But yet it became the basis, funneled money through a law firm to an op research firm to a foreign national by the name of Christopher Steele that we now know hated Donald Trump and that he used 10 and a half year old contacts to put together a lying dossier used by the Clinton campaign,
paid for by the Clinton campaign, for the fact of smearing and besmirching Donald Trump.
Then they use circular reporting.
They leak out certain aspects of the dossier.
Michael Izikov prints it like the, you know, basically the stenographer that he is for all things left-wing.
David Corn, same thing.
Washington Post, same thing.
And they say, here, look, we've got all these sources.
It's one source.
And it becomes the bulk of information for a FISA warrant.
And then we see that not one, but twice.
It becomes a backdoor to spy on the Trump transition team, the Trump candidacy at that point.
And then, of course, the Trump presidency.
Now we learn that an awful lot of time has been spent by people like Attorney General Barr and John Durham abroad.
And what we're beginning to piece together is that the spying that took place by Joseph Misfid, the professor involved with Papadopoulos, well, it turns out he's not a Russian spy.
He's a Western spy connected to Italian intelligence services.
Then we find out, and it looks more and more like every day that we see the outsourcing of things that would be illegal in America, of intelligence gathering, spying on the American people by our own intelligence leaders,
not rank and file, for the purpose of circumventing U.S. law.
But that gave another venue avenue to spy on the Trump campaign, transition, and then later presidency.
Now we have the 302s.
302s pretty much confirm, corroborate everything we've been saying.
302s are between, as we said, Bruce Orr and Christopher Steele.
The one thing, the one mystery is here, we care about taxi medallions and loan applications and taxes, but we didn't care about a Russian dossier that was used to bludgeon a candidate and spy in a presidential campaign and then used in an effort to take down a duly elected president.
Now, the reason we have it is because of Tom Fitton.
He's the president of Judicial Watch.
They've done a phenomenal job.
Greg Jarrett, he's been all over this, identifying all the laws associated with all this.
And Fox News legal analyst, author of the number one bestseller of the Russia hoax.
Let's get your take on the 302s that you were able to get through the FOIA request, Tom Fitton.
Hey, thank you, Sean.
That was a great summary, by the way.
And you're to be commended.
And I'm not saying this to blow smoke in your ear for your diligent, patriotic expose of this terrible corruption scandal.
This is a threat to our Republican form of government, this attack by these government agencies on the candidate and then President Trump.
Really terrible.
And it's all confirmed in the 302.
You get the outline of the Ku Cabal.
We had to sue in federal court to get access to this information.
We waited over a year.
Thankfully, my guess is Attorney General Barr decided to release because they've been withholding them in their entirety until just the other day.
And they show and outline what was going on that we've known about generally, but didn't know that they knew or they failed to admit that they knew.
You get the FBI confirming that, according to Bruce Orr, that evidently, Mr. Steele was, quote, desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being the U.S. president.
So you get this confirmation of the outrageous bias.
Obviously, he's working for Fusion GPS, the Clinton DNC paid firm, not conveyed to the Pfizer courts.
There were three renewals after that, at least, that that information wasn't conveyed.
Hey, Greg, what renewals did we know Comey signed the first one?
He signed two of the three renewal applications.
That's right.
Comey signed the first one October of 2016, but so did Sally Yates, the Deputy Attorney General.
Then in January, Yates and Comey signed the first renewal.
The second renewal was signed by Comey.
By the way, was that before or after he told Donald Trump at Trump Tower that it was salacious but not verified?
After.
And then in April of 2017, the second renewal signed by James Comey and Dana Blente, who was then the acting attorney general.
And then the final renewal was Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe in June of 2017.
But, you know, thank goodness for Judicial Watch that has uncovered so many of these documents.
But it invites the question: what's been going on?
Why do you have to wait a year and file a lawsuit for the government to turn over government documents that the public is entitled to see?
Yet FBI Director Christopher Wray refused to turn them over.
You know, he should be fired for systemic obstruction.
It's an attempt to cover reasons.
So Bruce Orr in August of 2016 warned everybody about the agenda of Steele, told everybody Hillary paid for the dirty Russian dossier.
Says it was unverified.
Kathleen Kavalek said it about 10 days prior to Comey signing and Yates signing the first FISA application.
So they were warned sufficiently on the top of a FISA application that says verified.
It's not.
But the 302s also reveal that after Steele is fired for lying and leaking and paid, what, 11 months by the FBI on top of it, he's paid by the DNC, Hillary Clinton, an oligarch, and the FBI for the same lying information.
That's a pretty good gig if you can get it.
So the question is: if they knew and it was unverified, that then makes it premeditated fraud on a FISA court.
But then he's trying to back channel.
We know through Bruce Orr's notes, he's trying to back channel more lies and propaganda to hurt Trump to the special counsel.
Do we know if that ever happened, Tom?
Well, the special counsel references the dossier.
He was hired to investigate the allegations in the dossier.
And he concludes in his report that it's unverified.
Every time he mentions dossier, you can go back and look at it.
He says the unverified dossier.
So Comey knew it was unverified in a salacious and unverified in January of 2017.
Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page, they talk about it together.
They realize there's no there just before Mueller's appointed.
By the way, go ahead.
Let me get to the exact words.
Strzok said, there's no there.
And Lisa Page said, after nine months, again, this was closed-door testimony thanks to Congressman Doug Collins.
She says we found nothing.
Those are her words.
Yep.
And they're desperate to get information from Steele because nothing was being found.
So just before Mueller's appointed, the Orr 302 show, FBI agents were willing to go to the United Kingdom to talk to Christopher Steele, this Clinton agent, to get dirt on President Trump.
So now the question is, what does it reveal to you?
How did you take all of this in, obviously, from the legal perspective, Greg Jarrett?
Well, the 302s confirm what Orr said in his testimony behind closed doors.
If you look at page 125, Orr said, quote, when I spoke to the FBI, I told them my wife was working for Fusion.
I told them Fusion was doing research on Trump.
I told them the information I got from Chris Steele, that he was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected.
These are all the facts I provided the FBI.
When was that?
That was in the last day of July 2016, the very day that the FBI launches officially the Trump-Russia investigation.
And then he goes on a few pages later in his deposition to say, I also warned the Department of Justice in addition to the FBI.
So they knew all of this.
They launched the investigation anyway.
And then they went, as Tom pointed out, and you pointed out, to a FISA court, and they lied to the judges.
They concealed evidence and they deceived the judges.
That's, according to my count, six different felonies.
All right, quick break more with Greg Jarrett.
Tom Fitton on the other side.
Our investigation into the investigators continues.
Tom Fitton, huge get with the Bruce Orr 302s and Greg Jarrett, author of the number one bestseller of the Russia hoax.
Okay, now all this time, 16 hours, Durham is interviewing Christopher Steele.
Now, unless Christopher Steele wants to get charged with perjury, he's going to have to say what he said in an interrogatory under oath, which is I have no idea if any of it's true.
Then he's going to have to explain why he was still backdooring information through Bruce Orr to try to get to the special counsel.
Andrew Weissman knew all about this himself because he had been briefed in August of 2016 about the dirty dossier.
So now the question is, legally, what are they looking for abroad, especially since the Mueller report got wrong that, in fact, Professor Misfit apparently was not Russian intelligence, but Western intelligence connected to Italy.
Stefan Hauper working on behalf of Australia.
It seems that the outsourcing of intelligence gathering that would otherwise be illegal in America to spy on American citizens, that that in fact occurred.
Do you both see this the same way I do?
Oh, yes.
I mean, look, all the evidence out there, and I would think that this is what Durham's looking into, is to figure out whether there was a good faith basis to engage in this unprecedented spy operation against President Trump.
And, you know, Steele, I think, is going to say the truth in the sense that he wasn't the only one responsible for his dossier.
Jonathan Weiner, the Kerry State Department official, admitted in the Washington Post op-ed that he summarized information he was getting from Clinton operatives Sidney Blumenthal and Cody Scheer.
Two longstanding and frankly discussed.
So in other words, Sidney's vicious Blumenthal, Cody Scheer are also equally involved in just basically handing over lies.
So the Clinton campaign is paying for lies.
They're using Christopher Steele, but their biggest supporters are feeding him lies, and he's just putting it in there without any verification.
Right.
The Clinton campaign was flooding the zone.
The State Department, DOJ, FBI.
Steele was only one conduit, and he had help, direct help from the Clintons, the Obama State Department to feed information in on the Justice Department.
Steele wasn't the only source for the Steele lies.
All right, I want to find out where this is all going on the other side.
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I wanted to get final thoughts from our guests, Tom Fitten and Greg Jarrett.
We're going to have a Horowitz report, and then it seems like it's going to be like a bar slash Durham report of some kind.
Seems like that's going to be more damning.
But do you see people being held accountable and being charged?
Greg Jarrett?
Oh, I absolutely do because Comey was running a secret counterintelligence operation against Trump.
That's the bottom line here.
Counterintelligence is supposed to be for the benefit of the president.
Instead, they were using it against the president.
And Steele Orr and others, they were lying, not only to the Pfizer court, Comey in particular, was lying to the president.
He kept assuring him he was not being investigated.
These documents and others show that he was being investigated.
So Comey and McCabe and Peter Strzok have a lot to answer for, and those answers, I think, will be befrighted by the IG.
And who are the names you would suspect that would be in legal jeopardy, likely indicted?
Well, I don't know if anybody's going to be indicted because not all corrupt acts can be crimes proven beyond reasonable doubt.
But on my list, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, and Peter Strzok.
What do you think, Tom Fitton?
Last word.
Yeah, I think Peter Strzok is the most significant figure probably to be indicted, the more CEOR.
What about Comey?
You know, Comey is going to hide behind his position.
I had evidence, and this is the...
What about Brennan?
What about Clapper?
You know, the good question there is, look, nothing's going to be done unless more information is released.
These 302s need to be the tip of the iceberg.
Well, we know it's the tip of the iceberg.
We know what they have.
We know the gang of eight material.
We know the warrants themselves.
And if they don't prove premeditated FISA fraud, I don't know what will.
All right, Craig Jarrett, Tom Pitton, thank you both.
We are following it.
We'll never stop our investigation of the investigators.
We will hold them accountable.
Too much at stake here, and not the least of which is, oh, do we have a dual justice system?
Are people going to continue in the future to get away with rigging presidential elections or attempting to do so?
Are they going to save favored candidates?
Are they going to bludgeon with lies, Russian lies, other candidates?
Are they going to try and take a duly elected president and remove that person from office?
Are they going to turn the tools of intelligence on we, the American people?
Are they going to outsource that which would be illegal to friendly countries of the United States?
In other words, are we going to say to our friends in Britain and Italy and Australia and elsewhere?
We're going to say, we've got to outsource this because we're not allowed to do it.
And then can you give us this information and do the spying for us?
We'd appreciate it.
Well, it's the same as doing it yourself.
It's got to be, we've got to get to the bottom of it as a bottom line.
All right, let's hit the phones here.
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Let's go to Rhonda's in Indiana.
Rhonda, hi, how are you?
And we're glad you hung in there.
Thanks for being with us.
You're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi, Sean.
I'm doing great.
I am a mother of four boys from 29 down to 13.
And I've been thinking a lot about these shooters and what has just happened in our country.
With our four boys, I can tell you that they did not come with a preset moral compass.
Their father and I just decided from the get-go that that was our job to have ours set straight and then to put in the time and all the work that it takes to help children find their own moral compass and get it set right.
And I think of it really as the real FaceTime.
That means it takes months and years of their faces and our faces in the same space.
It is hours and months of excruciating work.
Some of it's delightful, but parenting, I have found is the hardest job in the world, and there have not been any shortcuts for it.
I don't disagree, but I've got to be honest here.
And I'm looking at everybody that I know in life.
I don't know anybody that works the old-fashioned 9 to 5, 7 to 3, 8 to 4.30 schedule.
Do you know people that work that way?
Because I don't.
Well, I have been very fortunate because I have been able to telecommute.
For years, I worked as a medical transcriptionist, so I have been at home.
And so every sick day, snow day, vacation day, I was here, and they were supervised.
I know not everybody can do that, but still, we have taken our responsibility to train them, to transmit our faith and our values very seriously.
And, you know, the teachers that the boys have had, their cross-country coaches, the preachers, they have all had a part.
But I feel like that the primary responsibility for their teaching, their training, their moral training is on us.
And, you know, for you.
What do you mean by I agree with every single word you're saying, but what are you trying to say with that?
Like, for example, are you tying this?
For example, I think mental illness is real.
I know, like, my son in particular, he loves Fortnite.
He loves, what's that war game that everyone plays, Call of Duty, and all these other games and all his friends, and they play it for hours and hours and hours.
It gets annoying, but from my perspective, I'd rather be doing that than other things that they could be doing.
And I know they're violent, but I know that they're also rooted in reality.
I don't blame videos.
I don't blame movies.
I don't blame the words of politicians or talk show hosts either.
I do think that some people, for a whole host of reasons, maybe even some of them, hereditary.
Maybe some of them like that maybe they have a predisposition in their family towards depression or mental illness of some kind.
I don't know.
I don't have those answers.
I'm not that person.
I believe a certain spirituality is often missing from a lot of people.
They don't have a perspective, anything to cling to in those tough moments in life.
My belief in God has helped me a lot in my life.
So I think there's a multitude of factors.
Is it that you think that the biggest being that kids just run free?
Because I kind of ran the streets as a kid.
My parents were too busy.
Well, one of the things we have tried to do is to teach our boys how to think, how to think critically and analytically, so that no matter what is going on in the culture, and I think you would agree with me, Sean, that there's a lot of cultural rot.
And if they can't think for themselves, they're going to swallow it all.
But do you not believe that the kid is going to be 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and they're going to do dumb stuff?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
You better believe it.
I mean, let me ask you, did you make those same mistakes that everybody else makes at that age?
Because I did.
I made them and more.
Well, you know what?
I did not because I was raised in a very conservative religious home.
So I didn't.
But some of my boys have.
And so I have compassion for kids who go astray, for parents of kids who go astray.
I mean, my husband and I have said for years, you know, we could have gotten away from the school.
Well, let me ask you this.
Were my parents wrong in allowing me at 12 years of age, and I mean 12, to wash dishes in a restaurant every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night till 2, 3 in the morning?
Oh, my goodness, no.
Our boys have had to work here.
Our mantra was to hate this.
My parents were asleep when I came home.
And usually, well, to be honest, I mean, we had two St. Pauli girl beers before we'd fly home on our bicycles.
That was my choice.
Did my parents make a mistake by not checking my breath when I came in at 3.30?
Well, I'm not going to sit in judgment on your parents, Sean, because what they did for you may not have worked for one of your siblings.
At the end of the day, though, I think we, look, we guide our kids.
We have to accept that they're going to make mistakes.
You have to accept that they're their own people at the end of the day.
And I think that I think all we really can do is you guide them, you guide them, you guide them, you pull them in, you rein them in, you punish them, you tell them no, you take the crap away from them.
You know, I never hit my kids the way my father hit me with a belt, but all I have to do is take away their devices, their phone, their computer, their iPad, and that was it.
I won.
There's no need for any belts.
It was just a matter of seconds before they'd be banging on my door pleading for mercy.
Yes.
Well, it takes a lot of just sheer endurance.
That's hard.
It's the hardest job there is.
It is the biggest worry in the world.
It is the biggest worry.
There's no guarantee of success.
So it takes all of that.
And sometimes it doesn't feel like it's enough.
But, you know, for people of faith, which my husband and I are, we trust in God, that higher power, to fill in those gaps that we just simply in our humanity cannot fill.
And there comes a time when you realize you have no control over these young adults.
And that is the scariest feeling in the world.
You know what?
You know what a bigger truth is?
We don't have control over anything.
You're right.
You know, biblically speaking, and I'm not the most religious person in the world.
I want to be a better Christian.
I say that all the time.
You know, the funny thing is the media loves it when Christians fail, but Christians are just admitting that they're weak and admitting that they need help and asking God for that help and salvation.
So it seems to be in turn.
They're not saying they're perfect.
They're saying they want to be better.
Anyway, it's, you know, but if the Bible says the very hairs of your head were counted and the stars are all accounted for and God knew us before we were.
And if you believe in an almighty that there is no time everlasting, in other words, that I am sent you, that we have one capacity that the animal's kingdom does not have.
And that is an ability to know that we are here, a consciousness that they don't have.
They act on instinct and instinct only.
And at some point, that conscience has to drive our decision making, right or wrong.
We make it.
And I think it's a process.
And I just think that all kids, you know, I had to learn through the school of hard knocks.
I'll be honest.
I had to learn.
I've always had a conscience that let me know darn well when I was wrong.
There was no ambiguity.
And I never denied it either.
I just saw it and then realized I was wrong.
I mean, to this day, it still constantly haunts me, to be honest.
You just did a beautiful job of summing up the greatness of the Almighty.
And I'll just tell you this yet, Sean.
That is the God that I have chosen to trust with my four sons.
I feel that I could not do it without him.
This job of being their mother is more than I am.
If you can't add a second to your life and you can't add a hair to your head, I guess you can through extensions, but let's put that aside.
Or if the very hairs of your head are counted and all these people that don't believe in a God to me, always atheists, not agnostics necessarily.
I think they're more honest.
But an atheist, there is no God.
Okay, well, how did it happen?
Well, all this energy came together and boom, explosion and perfection was laid out before us.
Where did the energy come from that created the explosion?
There has to be a source of that, at least to my logical mind, scientific mind.
And I believe that source is something greater than us that we're not meant to know until we pass on to the next phase, whatever that happens to be, which I believe is an afterlife.
Boy, Sean, I just want to tell you how much I appreciate what you have just been saying.
That takes a lot of time.
Well, you brought it out of me.
Some people bring this stuff out of me and some people don't.
I don't know why.
So, all right, Rhonda, I got to get other calls in here quick, but God bless you and appreciate your call more than you know.
Mike Canada, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Thanks so much, Sean.
I appreciate you having me on.
And Unfortunately, we got a segue from that call to this Epstein situation.
And my take on it is that I have never seen the media shift the way that they have on this Epstein thing.
If you remember, Saturday morning, it seemed that the media, whose job I thought, was to question authority, question the official story, try to figure out what was going on, it seemed like they were on absolute defenses, right?
When they were about that there was anything suspicious, right?
There was nothing.
Oh, they didn't want anybody to say that this is suspicious at all, or else you're a conspiracy theory.
Now, by the way, the same people that have been pushing, peddling, selling, lying, propagandizing, misinforming, and advancing conspiracy theories, now they're going to lecture anyone else that raises a question about Epstein.
Look, here's the truth.
Nobody knows what happened yet.
We don't know.
We do not know what happened to Epstein.
We don't know if it's suicide.
You know, I think we just wait, we investigate, we find out what they come up with.
It's sort of like due process, presumption of innocence in a criminal case.
You can apply those standards of not jumping the gun.
But I do agree that the attorney general is right.
This is their serious irregularities.
This shouldn't have happened.
And I think we ought to get answers.
And I'm glad the attorney general also said that any co-conspirators, you better not rest easy because they're on it and they will be held accountable.
Because, you know, listen, I don't think there's any lower form of human being than anybody that can harm a child, period.
I don't think there's any greater evil than harming a child.
Even the most hardened prisoners are not going to accept you in jail if that's what you're guilty of.
They'll accept everything else, but they're not going to accept that.
Appreciate your insight.
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