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Before we get to where these hearings have been today, I want to be very, very crystal clear about one thing.
No matter how much they throw a temper tantrum, no matter how much they whine and complain and distort and outright lie, they lost.
They can't handle it.
They lost.
They're trying to revive something that is totally and completely dead.
And their selective moral outrage is about to pretty much blow up politically in their face because based on the attorney general's testimony today before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Lindsey Graham's committee, and the things that he says are coming.
It is now going to go from Operation Crossfire Hurricane to Operation Boomerang.
And this is going to hit them so hard, it will rock their foundation going back generations in their families.
Their great-grandparents or great-great great-great-grandparents are going to feel the vibrations of how this is going to blow them away.
They have nothing left.
So they did rather than just admit that they lost, admit that they lied, admit that they believe something that was not true, and yet it is their candidate that was guilty of many of the things that they're acting like they seem outraged about.
And they don't sort of like I keep using the example.
This is a this is one of those I believe moments.
This is, oh my God, I believe Kavanaugh.
I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe.
Uh, where are the I believers when it comes to the Democratic Lieutenant Governor of Virginia?
No I believers.
They just are quiet.
And on so many other issues, it is the same selective moral outrage.
This is not based on any principle, any guiding principle that they have.
Their understanding of the law, it's not even fundamental.
It's not even basic.
And the fact that these are lawmakers is frankly an embarrassment.
And I think many of them, you know, they they can feign outrage all they want, and they can act like they're indignant and they can make accusations that are definitely not true, which they're doing.
And but at the end of the day, it's going to get them nowhere.
This is not going anywhere by anybody at any time.
Now, what I just want to explain.
Let me tell you how this all started before the day today.
We've got plenty of sound.
We got, you know, Senator Harono said, men need to sit down and shut up, or whatever she said at the time of the Kavanaugh hearings.
It's a you lied, you're a liar, you're, you know, it's just typical, predictable, one-sided partisanship.
But there's a certain more, there's A certain level of rage and intensity that this hearing took on because they themselves have been so deeply embedded in the lie and in the conspiracy.
And what they didn't expect was the Mueller finding.
And it's not that Mueller didn't try.
It's not that he didn't put the most biased team of prosecutors and lawyers and investigators around him.
He did, including his pit bull, Andrew Weissman, including Clinton's own attorney on the Clinton Foundation, Jeannie Ray.
I mean, but trust me, if they had it, they would have, they would have gone with it.
They wanted to take the president down.
They wanted it with all of their heart, their minds, and their souls.
They wanted this thing over.
Now, let me explain where this all began.
Actually, started last night, I guess about maybe an hour before Hannity.
We were able to get it all in.
And Washington Post first.
Muller complained that Barr's letter did not capture the context of the Trump probe.
And the headline in the New York Times was Muller objected to Barr's description.
Remember the four-page March 24th letter of Russia investigations findings.
Okay, when you start actually taking the time and reading the body of what it is they're printing, they contradict, as the attorney general did today.
They actually contradict their own headline because they too are embedded in the lie, just like everybody else in the media.
They've all bought into their own narrative, their own worldview, their own truth, but it doesn't have evidence.
And that is that Donald Trump and the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to steal an election.
Unfortunately for them, the FBI's nine-month investigation, quote, struck in page, struck no there.
Paige said, well, no, when we handed it off to Mueller, we had no evidence whatsoever.
Okay.
Oh boy.
Um, and after now two plus years, they still have nothing.
And that and and that is not even in dispute with anybody, but that doesn't stop them.
And and by the way, their plan B is not to fall on the sword, acknowledge truth wrongdoing and admit that they had this wrong from the beginning and now focus their attention on serving the country and serving the people that put them in office.
No.
Now it's never admit you're wrong, double down on stupid, triple down on stupid, and let's go on a fishing expedition and see if we can get Trump's financial records.
Let's empower the IRS now to go after our political adversaries.
Well, that's that's part of their plan.
Let's begin the process of finding out what Donald Trump, what bank he used when he was six years old.
And let's get every banking statement in his entire life, and let's now dig deep into the financial records of Donald Trump.
You know, forget about the economy or peace and prosperity of the American people or the forgotten men and women.
You know, I guess thanks to Trump, that's all being fixed without any of their help.
Forget about securing the borders.
You know, that's there's no crisis at the border.
Walls are immoral as long as Donald Trump's president, DACA dreamers, they don't matter either, if Donald Trump's president.
You know, but unfortunately, when you dig into the New York Times, for example, is big this big busting headline.
Muller objected to Barr's description of Russia investigation findings, and that the special counsel sent this letter.
There's nothing in the letter that verifies what the headline says.
But buried in the article, it contradicts the headline.
Quote, the special counsel emphasized that nothing in the attorney general's March 24th letter was inaccurate or misleading.
Not what part of nothing don't they understand?
All right, so Mueller's gonna go up and testify at some point.
He expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the special counsel's obstruction analysis.
Nothing was inaccurate, nothing was misleading that Barr said in his 24th letter.
Now, just as a matter of law, the attorney general does not did not have to give any part of the Mueller report to anybody.
That's all part of the old independent counsel statute that after the Clinton impeachment, the Democrats wanted to get rid of.
They didn't want all of this going out in the public.
But now that it's politically expedient, all the press.
We got to have it all.
We got to have it all.
Well, Congress does have it all, except for one-tenth of one percent that was redacted for members of Congress, about 8% for public consumption, and for the four reasons that were given protect sources, methods, pending cases, uh, et cetera.
You know, which is the smart thing to do.
So all it is is the Democratic Party mob and the media mob doing what they do best, and that is, you know, now going back again into the well in the hopes that they can convince people something happened that didn't happen.
But when Mueller says to Barr, nothing was inaccurate, nothing was misleading.
The contents of the article literally why why would that even be a breaking story?
Because they were setting up bar for a contentious hearing today.
They were doing their part.
They wanted this confrontation today.
They were praying for this confrontation today.
You know, and okay, the summary did not fully capture the Russia report's conclusion.
Well, that was the point.
It was a summary, but in but he said he was releasing it to the public, which he had no obligation under current law to do, period.
None whatsoever.
And if you're really, you know, for those that actually care about the law and equal justice under the law and our constitution and equal application of our laws, the biggest headline that nobody's gonna pick up today is the attorney general's comments about what he's investigating.
Uh the inspector general Horowitz is coming out, we think next week now with his report on FISA application abuse.
And I believe, predict with it, we're gonna see a whole lot of criminal referrals.
Uh now, even the New York Times and people like Bob Woodward have pulled back a little bit in the sense that they're recognizing and may very well be proven that the Hillary bought and paid for Russian dossier that she bought with funneled money from a law firm that was then funneled to Fusion GPS, which we also learned last night.
Oh, the Obama, whatever for America group that he supports, they've been paying fusion GPS from tw since 2016, almost a million dollars.
Why?
But anyway, then hiring Christopher Steele, then the admonitions, repeated admonitions that Steele hated Trump, that it was unverified, it couldn't be verified, Steele doesn't even stand by it.
And in fact, I know there's more stories that there might have been even more collusion and reports that some people are whispering in my ear, we might find out that Steele was in America talking to very specific people, which is gonna get interesting.
But more importantly, what we do know is is that what was prevent presented to the FISA court was a fraud on the court, a knowing fraud or a conspiracy to commit fraud on the court, and every person that put their signature to that so they can then spy on the Trump campaign and those that leaked it to David Korn and Isakov and the Washington Post to impact the election with Hillary's lies.
Well, what if it was now, as now is being suggested by the New York Times Russian disinformation she paid for?
Wow, that would be a hell of a boomerang, wouldn't it?
Forget Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
This is Operation Boomerang.
This is the last, you know, rubber political bullet that they've got that they can use to bludgeon Trump.
This is it.
The next that the next phase in all of this in the days, weeks, and months ahead, are going to blow this wide open.
And we're gonna get to the truth.
And what they're not gonna like in all of this is everything they said was untrue.
These were conspiracy theories.
They spun up a narrative of lies, and while they were lying, there really was Russian disinformation bought and paid for to impact the 2016 election.
And on top of that, that was the bulk of information that was used to commit a fraud on the Pfizer court, so then they can get in and spy on the Trump campaign and all things campaign world Trump, and then later President elect Trump because they had the insurance policy in case he won, you know, just in case they have an insurance policy.
And those people, all of them, all of the people, the names we talk, call me Hillary, Strzok, Paige, McCabe.
You know, then you can add the general Baker, pre step.
Uh, then you got Loretta Lynch's involvement now is getting more interesting by the day as these closed door testimonies came out that Paige and Strutt say, no, she handled, she made every decision.
That's a problem.
And then it's gonna go into well, what did Obama and Biden know?
That's where it's headed.
That's how wrong they've been.
That's how much they've lied, and they can't let it go.
But they've got, don't worry, they have a lot of fishing poles.
They're gonna send their polls out in different areas.
Well, let's look.
Wait a minute.
All it he had 200 in the bank when he was six.
Where did it come from?
Um, which is their desperate attempt to destroy a duly elected president.
This is the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in American history.
And it's all coming out.
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The Breach continues.
The psychosis, the belief in a lie continues.
The advancement of conspiracy theories continues, and you know, but they've got a backup plan.
That's it.
Right now it's Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, obstruction, obstruction, obstruction.
Okay.
Well, the attorney general is very clear.
He now that they've had their four investigations, he's now moving on.
This issue whether the left in America, these fake news phonies that know nothing about the law, they want to continue advancing and hanging on, clinging on, you know, building up more false hope in their audiences that they can do what they want.
And if that doesn't work, don't worry.
Sh Adam Schiff is is gonna try to get Trump on a uh now a financial crime.
We'll go on fishing expedition after expedition.
And this is almost unprecedented that we've ever seen in the country.
Now, Congress has oversight powers and put the in the house, they're afraid to take on bar.
You see, Bart today, he's like listening to this nonsense, and he said, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah, there was no underlying crime, and yeah, the president was outspoken.
Uh, he did talk about the removal of Mueller for conflicts.
There were conflicts, obvious conflicts.
He had been interviewed the day before his appointment and didn't get the FBI job, maybe pissed him off.
Also had an issue with Donald Trump on one of his golf clubs.
And by the way, if the attorney general uh of the United States and the deputy attorney general and the office of legal counsel decide there's no obstruction because there's no underlying crime and there was no intent, and everything was said as somebody that knew their innocence, which Muller confirms.
Well, now we'll just apply those standards to Hillary and FISA abuse, and a lot of people are gonna go to jail.
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We got a lot of analysis today and a breaking news story with John Solomon coming, Greg Jarrett, uh, David Schoen, Bill O'Reilly uh weighs in today.
Um, we'll get to all of it.
You know, Barr saying that Mueller told him three times that the Office of Legal Counsel opinion that quote that you can't indict a sitting president was not a factor in Mueller's decision not to bring an obstruction charge.
Well, that puts that false fake news narrative that you've heard since day one to rest.
And Barr was surprised that Mueller, in other words, didn't finish the job.
That's the whole function of the special counsel as prosecutor.
Now remember, Barr has no obligation to offer any of this publicly.
And Barr said he assumed that in his decision there was no office of legal counsel opinion.
The government did not have a prosecutable case in this case.
And he said he didn't think that any of the episodes that were described by Mueller as ice, they're so meaningless and so insignificant with no underlying crime stated by somebody that was declaring his innocence for well, what, two and a half years.
The president has not been shy, nor would any innocent person in my view be shy in declaring there is their innocence, especially on basically being called a traitor that colluded with Russia to steal an election.
I think, you know, once Trey Gowdy famously says, Well, if you're innocent, act like it.
Well, that's how I presume innocent people act.
Although lawyers tell you all the time, I get it.
Uh, you gotta shut up.
You gotta shut up.
You gotta show you.
Can't say anything, can't say anything, can't say anything.
But that's what lawyers do.
They're doing their job.
And if you have a good lawyer, you usually have to take their advice, sadly.
But the president proclaimed his innocence.
One point did question with Don McGann.
Well, is Mueller conflicted?
And I think the answer is obviously yes, considering the day before he was appointed, and he had no idea this appointment was coming.
I think the president had every right to ask if he's conflicted.
It's not it's not like the investigation would have stopped.
It just would have been somebody else take over.
That can't be obstruction either.
And under Article 2, if any of these idiots in the Senate on the Democratic side ever cared about what the law says or the Constitution mandates, uh, then they would know that that is not obstruction.
You, you know, thinking about firing, hoping to fire somebody, wishing they were fired, saying they ought to be fired, is not the same thing.
Now, if Muller found that obstruction, trust me, he would have charged him on obstruction.
He, you know, he could have said so.
He had the full authority to say so from the get-go.
And the fact, Comey, you know, he how does he even list the Comey issue?
It's ridiculous to be even being the Muller report.
James Comey's own word.
He could be fired for any reason or no reason at all.
He serves at the pleasure of the president.
By thank God, we now know an awful lot about Comey and Comey taking government documents and leaking it through a professor friend of his to the New York Times, which may in and of itself be a crime.
And then the same Comey that signed the first FISA application in October of 2016, just before the election, based on some a document that was bought and paid for by Hillary, and they didn't tell the Pfizer court judge in the application Hillary paid for it, uh, omitting a vital fact, lying by omission, and then, of course, not verifying the dossier and the the truthfulness of it.
They didn't verify it in any way, shape, manner, or form.
And now we even know that it's unverifiable because Christopher Steele doesn't stand behind the dossier.
I don't know if any of it's true, maybe 50-50, because he was threatened he was literally up against the threat of a perjury charge in an interrogatory in Great Britain when he was questioned about it.
And Comey refused to tell the public the truth that Trump was not under investigation.
He signed that October 2016 warrant.
And then, well, Trump wins.
All right, time for the insurance policy.
Anyway, they still have access to all things Trump transition world because the Pfizer warrant's still in effect.
And then it gets renewed, I believe, in December.
And we have other people signing the other three warrants, the three, you know, Pfizer warrants.
Each time you've got to go back to a Pfizer court.
Each time the bulk of information was the unverified, uncorroborated, now proven false dossier bought by Hillary Clinton, and even the New York Times suggesting it might have been Russian disinformation.
How ironic this all comes down to Russian disinformation Hillary paid for to influence the election.
So, and then Comey goes right up to Trump Tower in that Trump Tower meeting with then President elect Trump and says, Well, there's this dossier out there.
Now it's salacious, but it's not verified.
Okay, but that's not what Comey was telling the FISA court a few months earlier in October of 2016.
That meeting in Trump Tower took place, January of 2017.
By the way, no obstruction.
Even Mueller's report says so on the firing of Comey.
Comey refused to tell the public the truth about his handling of the Clinton probe.
You know, that is a legitimate reason.
We now know he and Stru, we we know that he leaked government documents, illegal likely, for the sake of starting a special counsel.
He did it.
He that was his goal.
That's what he testified to.
We also know that he testified that, yeah, Hillary did have top secret classified information on that secret server.
Uh, he just no prosecutor would say that rises to the level.
Uh that's a lie, too.
And we know that Strck and Comey, or struck on Comey's instructions, was writing the exoneration of Hillary in May of 2016, before he interviewed Hillary or 17 other people, and also allowed two other people to be in the room, which is unheard of in that type of case.
If you're doing an FBI investigation, it's a real investigation.
You don't get to bring in your BFFs.
And Trump expressed to his counsel McGann that Mueller should be replaced.
He's allowed to by Article II anyway.
And he wanted to remove someone who did have conflicts of interest.
And by the way, the president didn't need McCann to do it.
He could have done it himself.
And Barr pointed out as a matter of law, the president under Article II, he didn't say this, Barr, I'm saying this.
The president has the right to fire the special counsel.
It's not a corrupt, if you know, it's not a corrupt purpose.
It can't be obstruction of justice.
And on top of everything, there's no underlying crime.
It's clear that Robert Mueller and the special counsel, no evidence that any American Trump campaign, Donald Trump colluded with the Russian government, period.
Now, if the president was being falsely accused, as he was, thought the investigation was unfair, it was.
It's not a corrupt purpose to replace the special counsel because it was a witch hunt.
You know, as it relates to trying to get McGann to maybe perhaps somehow do it himself.
Well, the evidence shows the president was doing it to correct a false story by the New York Times.
You know, Trump trying to get Sessions to unrecuse himself.
You know, when Sessions recused himself, he cited the wrong law.
Everybody seems to forget that.
As it relates to the Muller letter, you know, this is where the media just went full on lying.
And this was to set up this ridiculous hearing from earlier today in the circus that ensued thereafter, because, you know, they seized on the on Robert Mueller's letter to William Barr, expressing frustration at the Attorney General's initial uh depiction of the investigation's findings and presented it as evidence of wrongdoing.
Yep, much of the anti-Trump lepers seemingly ignored the crucial detail.
This is in the body of both articles in the New York Times and in the case of the Washington Post.
It is in there.
You can read it.
There is there's now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation, the letter read, according to let's use the Washington Post.
This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.
And then, of course, Maxine Waters calls on Barr to resign.
Schiff rushes to judgment.
He said the news, you know, to undermine the attorney general, et cetera, et cetera.
Schumer called on Barr to testify.
He did.
Here's what else is in there that they don't want to talk about.
Now, there was a series of phone calls with Barr and Mueller.
And Barr pressed Mueller on the key question that should matter here.
And that is whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress wasn't accurate.
This is in the body of the New York Times and the Washington Post pieces.
Muller said that he did not at all.
And as a matter of fact, when you're looking at the actual words of it, he expressed frustration over the lack of context of the and the resulting media coverage, of course, of the special counsel's obstruction analysis, but also told the attorney general nothing that Barr wrote in his letter.
Nothing was inaccurate or misleading.
That's in the article.
Why is that even a story at this point?
The entire Mueller report is now completely out there.
It's available for anybody to see with the four reasons, categories for redactions.
And that is what people, this is shows you, you know, people lie by omission, and people can also lie.
They just outright lie.
And, you know, you would think after the embarrassment of two plus years of spinning lies and conspiracies that these guys would be done and maybe learn a lesson in not learning a lesson.
And, you know, all of these deep state actors, I am telling you, there's I don't need to be involved at this point anymore, except that, well, everything we've said is true and everything's going to come out and everything will be self-evident because Operation Boomerang is going to happen in a massive way.
And it goes right to the Obama White House.
The Federalists reported last night that Obama's political campaign paid nearly a million dollars since 2016 to fusion GPS, the firm responsible for Hillary's dossier.
The night before we learned that in fact it was that Biden and others that they were involved in meetings inside the Obama White House Oval Office.
And by the way, they'll never report that Trump is on the verge of signing a massive trade deal with China.
That would be good news that helps the country and the economy and things that we didn't have happen before.
Now, so I want to know what did Obama know?
What did a Biden know?
When did they know it?
What did Loretta Lynch know?
Did Struck and Page lie when they said that the whole investigation into Hillary was being run by Loretta Lynch and Democrats In the Department of Justice.
You know, I mean, all these tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists clinging to a headline that the body of which contradicts the headline as if this was real breaking news.
They're just there are they are now so deeply embedded themselves, they cannot face the truth or face the truth of what's gonna happen here.
I mean, Barr has said spying.
He goes, I don't look at that as a pejorative.
Spying occurred on two levels through Carter Page and the fraud abuse uh on the FISA court, the fraud committed against the court, Stefan Halper told to approach Papadopoulos, Carter Page, and Sam Clovis.
You know, all getting into the back door of all things world Trump.
And now the rigged investigation into Hillary, except this time he got a real crime, the Espionage Act.
The real intent of deleting subpoenaed emails is if we needed to have what the intent was to destroy the evidence of the underlying crime, the very things Democrats don't have with Trump because there is no underlying crime, and Donald Trump was extremely public in expressing his frustration that he was innocent.
Now, four times he's been proven correct, but that's not gonna stop them.
And then when we get to the FISA abuse and the Horowitz report and then the Huber report, and then Barr's now starting his investigation, it was very clear today that that extends into pretty much everything.
That has gone on here.
And the abuse of power at the Department of Justice and the FBI only upper echelon, not rank and file people, you know, at the premier, you know, law enforcement agency in the world or the premier intelligence community, those that do their good job and don't abuse the powerful tools of intelligence.
And then an effort to unseat and bludgeon a unseated a duly elected president, bludgeon him with what now may become, according to the New York Times, bought and paid for Russian disinformation.
How ironic could this all get?
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Well, and the Ukraine's influence.
That is going to blow up.
Horowitz next week, then Huber, then Attorney General Barr's investigation.
Is everything going to be reopened?
It sounded an awful lot today, like everything was reopened.
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On Thursday morning, I received I received it, probably was received at the department Wednesday night or evening, but on Thursday morning I received a letter from Bob, the letter that's just been put into the record.
And I called Bob and said, you know, what's the issue here?
Are you su and I asked him if he was suggesting that the March 24th letter was inaccurate?
And he said, no, but that the press reporting had been inaccurate.
And that the press was reading too much into it.
And I asked him, you know, specifically what his concern was.
And he said that his concern focused on his explanation of why he did not reach a conclusion on obstruction.
And he wanted more put out on that issue.
He wanted uh he argued for putting out summaries uh of each volume, the executive summaries uh that had been written by his office.
Uh and if not that, then other material that focused on the issue of why he didn't reach the obstruction question.
But he was very clear with me that he was not suggesting that uh we had misrepresented his report.
Do you share my concerns about the Pfizer warrant process?
Yes.
Do you share my concerns about the counterintelligence investigation, how it was opened and why it was opened?
Yes.
You share my concerns that the professional lack of professionalism in the Clinton email investigation is something we should all look at.
Yes.
Do you expect to change your mind about the bottom line conclusions of the Mueller report?
No.
Do you know Bob Mueller?
Yes.
Do you trust him?
Yes.
How long have you known him?
Thirty years, roughly.
You think he had the time he needed?
Yes.
You think he had the money he needed?
Yes.
You think he had the resources needed?
Yes.
Do you think he did a thorough job?
Yes, and I I think he feels he did a thorough job and and had uh adequate uh evidence to make the calls.
Do you think the president's campaign in 2016 was thoroughly looked at in terms of whether or not they colluded with the Russians?
Yes.
And the answer is no, according to Bob Mueller.
That's right.
He couldn't decide about obstruction.
You did.
Is that correct?
That's right.
You feel good about your decision?
Absolutely.
That was a great list of questions.
Um and I think this is where, of course, the corrupt fake news.
Oh, frankly, they are they're partly responsible.
They can't let go of their own hoax and their own lies and their own conspiracies have missed the big headlines of the day is that Barr is going to investigate Hillary Russia collusion.
And Barr is going to investigate this deal dossier.
Was it Russian disinformation as the New York Times is suggesting?
Uh and on every one of those issues that you just heard on FISA, why this was opened in the first place.
Well, one question I have when did Mueller know there was no collusion?
Uh the Clinton email corruption, um, and whether he changed his mind on Mueller, we got definitive answers or the Mueller report.
And his conversation with Mueller, I I just keep going back because it is another big headline, and that the special counsel, Robert Muller, in these phone conversations emphasized nothing in the attorney general's March 24th letter was inaccurate or misleading.
And the frustration he was expressing was over the lack of context and the resulting fake news media coverage regarding the special counsel's obstruction analysis.
Nothing was inaccurate.
Nothing was misleading.
It's over.
It's done, except for now the real investigation.
And with the new knowledge that in fact Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies, the Horowitz report as early as next week, we think.
Anyway, joining us for their analysis, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, author of the number one bestseller, The Russian hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump.
Now we go to phase two.
Phase two is first frame Donald Trump, and now he's exonerated, whether they like it or not.
And now it's oh, yeah, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary.
What did Hillary do as a what did the FBI do on Hillary's investigation?
What did Hillary do relating to the Russian disinformation she paid for?
Also, David Schoen with us, criminal defense civil liberties attorney.
Welcome uh both of you back to the program.
Uh good to see you in studio.
David Schoen, how are you?
Thank you.
Fine, thanks.
Good to see you.
Greg Jarrett, let's start with you.
Uh that you you know, the whole premise of your book pretty much was corroborated today, right there for the world to see.
And yes, we still have people that live in denial in a conspiracy world, but it just is not happening.
Yeah, there'll always be people like that.
You know, it's easy to make up a lie.
It's even easier to pervey the lie.
What's really hard is to uncover the truth.
Uh and in now we've done that, and today nothing changed.
There's still no collusion, insufficient evidence to prove an obstruction offense.
What struck me more than anything else is that Barr said openly today that he he was mystified.
He he never understood and still doesn't understand why Robert Mueller didn't do his job by reaching a conclusion on obstruction.
And in fact, uh you know, he said it was unclear to me.
We we didn't get a clear understanding of Mueller's reason uh as to why he just didn't do his job.
He said it was very strange.
And then Barr went on to say, look, we're not in the business of exoneration.
Um he said we, you know, we didn't believe there was sufficient evidence to establish obstruction, and he went through each and every one of the claims of obstruction that Mueller tried to peddle and disabused all of them.
All right.
So uh well, first let me get David's take, because I mean, look, you guys know this case so well.
I I just want your general thoughts because there's so much here to to digest.
Yeah, I I want to say that I think there is a a fully explainable reason why Muller did what he did.
I think that they came to the conclusion there was no obstruction of justice.
That's clear by law and by fact, and that people like for people like Weissman, it wasn't palatable to say that after all of these millions of dollars and after all of this time and after all of his and their anti-Trump bias and agenda, they couldn't come to Hillary and tell her this is what we found.
They couldn't look their friends in the face and say we found no obstruction.
It's reckless to do what Bob Mueller did in that regard.
Um they should have given a full clean bill of health on obstruction.
There was no obstruction as a matter of fact and law.
Well, there's no obstruction, but we we do have a list of things that the the attorney general said today that should be shocking and alarming to a lot of people here.
I mean, for you know, for the Attorney General of the United States to say that basically he's investigating Hillary Russia collusion, and for the Attorney General to announce he's looking into the rigged investigation into Hillary, which we now know that was rigged, and the evidence in that case was overwhelming, and the intent when she deleted and bleachbit and beat up devices and removed SIM cards, there was an intent to destroy evidence for the underlying crime.
Um the very things the the liberal media was saying about Trump, I would say that this is a disaster for all things Democrat and how far up the chain it goes in the Obama White House as all of this happened on their watch, Greg Jarrett is going to be fascinating.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, he vowed uh to investigate wrongdoing among top officials at the FBI and the DOJ.
Uh, and he specifically named certain things uh abuse of the FISA warrant, um, how the FBI and the DOJ learned of the steel dossier and how Hillary Clinton was paying for it.
Um, you know, he at one point in time he said, Barr said today, we've got to stop weaponizing, uh using uh the Justice Department to weaponize uh political differences.
And that was a very telling statement.
That tells you that Mueller knows that that's what people like uh James Comey and Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, uh John Brennan, James Clapper did.
They took their positions of power and for political reasons, they decided to target Donald Trump.
Uh and it's unconscionable, and frankly, as I lay out in my book, it's illegal, numerous crimes committed.
Well, all of which is true.
Well, go ahead, David.
I was gonna say, I hope that Mr. Barr is serious, because we almost had, I don't mean to overstate the matter, we almost had a coup through the Justice Department.
Remember what that agenda was to overthrow the president.
This is the Justice Department.
Unless Mr. Barr really gets a serious investigation going into what started all of this and what went on at justice, it could happen again.
We can't take that in this country.
Well, we can't take it, and by the way, it is scary for the entire country if in fact that happens.
That's that's the really there's a danger here.
There's a danger for the entire country in all of this.
And I think that, you know, especially look, what what do you both think of the notion?
We we now know I I can't imagine any scenario if the Grassley Graham and Nunes memos are remotely accurate.
The fact that the FISA application consisted of a bulk of information Full of, you know, Russian unverified lies, omitting or lying by omission, committing and conspiring to commit fraud in other ways, but lying by omission that Hillary bought and paid for it, not putting it in big big bold letters to the Pfizer court judge in the FISA application.
I cannot imagine if we have equal justice under the law, Greg Jarrett, that anybody is going to get a pass on that.
They will not.
There were five big lies in the dossier.
Um the judges weren't told that Hillary Clinton's campaign had paid for the dossier.
They weren't told that Christopher Steele had been fired for lying.
Instead, uh, you know, Comey and Yates uh in the first application said, Oh, he's credible.
All other applications said the same thing.
They knew he wasn't credible.
The judges weren't told that Steele had this virulent anti-Trump bias, that he was desperate to stop Trump.
And judges weren't told that the evidence that they presented was never verified.
That under the Woods procedures that the FBI established is a clear violation, and finally judges were never told of the exculpatory evidence that the FBI had of Carter Page's innocence, not to mention uh Papadopoulos, who was also mentioned uh in one of their applications.
So, you know, the these judges were lied to.
That's a fraud on the court, it's abuse of power, it's obstruction of justice, and several other felonies.
It also specifically violates the court's rules.
Listen, the Pfizer court aspect of this is only one aspect, but it's as serious as can be.
This is the most secretive and intrusive court in the land.
The court should become proactive.
They should demand answers now.
They should convene a hearing and consider can and consider contempt proceedings.
But they also it even goes deeper than that because it wasn't one application.
There were three subsequent renewal applications.
And as time went on, they still were relying on this particular Hillary dossier, which now the attorney general is looking into whether or not Hillary Clinton entered into all of uh this bought and paid for Russian lies paid for by a foreign national.
And, you know, those rumblings that Christopher Steele met with a lot of people in America at very strategic times.
That means the foreign nationals' influence in our election uh on multiple levels.
Yeah, isn't it always interesting that it i it's the people um who engage in wrongdoing that accuse others of doing so?
And that's this is the perfect case.
It was Hillary Clinton who was colluding uh with foreigners, uh a British spy as well as Russians, using Russian information to damage her rival feeding it to the FBI.
And it's always perplexed me uh how the Department of Justice and the FBI simply overlooked all of that, and so did Mueller in his report.
Nary a word about that, and he surely ran across incriminating information.
But now Bill Barr uh seems absolutely determined to get to the bottom of it.
I know Lindsey Graham certainly is chairman of the uh judiciary committee, as we saw him today.
So, you know, this story is only half over.
Uh the important half is ongoing right now.
All right, stay right there.
Greg Jarrett and David Schoen, some breaking news and also reaction to the hearings today.
We have John Solomon coming up, Bill O'Reilly in our news roundup information overload hour.
All right, as we roll along, 800 941 Sean, toll free telephone number, you want to be a part of the program.
Um anyway, we continue with Greg Jarrett and uh David Schoen.
All right, final thoughts.
Where's it going, David?
You're here with me.
Where's it going?
It sounds like Bob Barr, uh sorry, sounds like Bill Barr is very serious now about going forward.
He has to be.
The country requires a full investigation as to how we got there and uh where we're going from here.
The same people who were involved, Hillary Clinton, Jim Comey, all of these show their arrogance every single day with their public statements.
They haven't gotten the message.
Greg Jarrett.
I I agree a hundred percent, and I'll add two other things.
Barr said he was deeply troubled that the Trump campaign was never given a defensive briefing.
He said, I can't fathom why that did not happen.
He knows the reason.
They were setting him up.
Uh and the second is that Barr didn't back off his usage of the term spying.
No, he embraced it.
Yeah.
He said it's not a pejorative, it's a good English term.
And he said that he thinks it wasn't just the FISA surveillance of Carter Page and an undercover agent, but he's looking into other spying.
I guarantee you, when he starts turning over those rocks, he's gonna find a lot of worms.
Um who might get indicted quickly.
Greg's book gives them the roadmap.
Well, tell you what I think the people you know what?
Why don't you guys stay on?
Because we we have still so much to get to, and John Solomon's gonna join us uh get his take and also some breaking news and stories he's working on.
All right, as we continue our coverage, the bar hearings.
Wow, what a day this has been.
Unbelievable.
Uh, have you already tasked any staff to look into whether spying by the FBI and other agencies on the Trump campaign was properly predicated?
And can Congress expect a formal report on your findings?
Uh yes, I do have people uh in the department helping me review uh the uh activities over the summer of 2016.
Uh uh I suppose it depends on what conclusions you come to, but is there any reason why Congress wouldn't be briefed on your conclusions?
Uh yeah, it's a little early for me to commit completely, but I envisioned some kind of uh reporting at the end of this.
All right, that was from earlier today.
That was Senator Grassley of Iowa and the Attorney General Bill Barr.
We continue with Greg Jarrett and David Schoen, uh adding to the mix our friend John Solomon, uh investigative reporter, executive director of the Hill, uh and just literally breaking seconds ago, an investigative piece, uh Nelly Orr's I mean, this is this sounds pretty blockbuster.
Nellie Orr's Hi Honey emails to DOJ about Russia collusion.
Uh and I'm reading it, you know, literally fresh off the presses now.
John, welcome back to the program.
Before I get to your thoughts on what went on today, tell me about this breaking news.
Yeah, so here was what we have.
We have now three hundred and thirty-nine pages of emails that Nellie Orr sent to Bruce Orr and his colleagues at the Justice Department.
She essentially used her marital privilege, her relationship with her husband, to feed her fusion GPS research on Russia and Donald Trump and Paul Manafort and Carter Page and all the figures of the now debunked collusion scandal.
She used that uh connection to feed her research right into the Justice Department to other prosecutors in the international uh criminal division.
So uh a new backdoor, and the reason this is significant is two twofold.
One, it raises a real serious question of conflict of interest.
Why is Nellie Orr sending Clinton funded research to the Justice Department through her husband?
And two, when she testified to the Hill last year and that in the deposition, she stated under uh uh to the Congress that she did not share any of her fusion GPS research with anyone outside of Fusion GPS, her husband and Christopher Steele.
We clearly have a clear pattern here now of that fusion GPS research, that Russia collusion research going to Justice Department prosecutors who aren't her husband, but rather her husband's colleagues.
So it's a pretty big development.
Would that mean uh she lied under oath?
One of the things I'm hearing, I mean, to be determined, but one of the things I'm hearing is that several House Republicans who participated in the uh interview with Nellie Orr last year are now preparing a criminal referral, asking the Justice Department to investigate and determine if she did lie to Congress in the in that deposition.
So to be determined, but there's movement on that today as we speak.
Any more details that you can get into this?
I mean, you know, fusion GPS, we we learned last night, and this kind of shocked me and came out of nowhere to be very, very honest with you.
Uh and I saw this with the Federal Federalists reporting that Obama's political camp paid nearly a million dollars since 2016 to Fusion GPS.
Uh again, it raises more questions about what did the Obama White House know?
When did they know it?
Struck and page closed door testimony brings the entire decision making in the Hillary Clinton's email server scandal right into the office of uh The Attorney General, uh Loretta Lynch, uh, and also about meetings involving a lot of this in the Obama White House and Oval Office.
I mean, where's this going?
Well, it's clearly gonna go to a much larger question.
Uh, we call it the boomerang, right?
What uh now that we know that the uh Russia uh collusion narrative was bogus, it's been debunked.
It was a political dirty trick.
Uh uh now that we know that I think the question is who participated and when did they know what was going on?
And we now know for certain that Nelly Orr sent things like Carter Page was in Moscow and and having a meeting and and had some connections to Gasprom.
She's forwarding that to the Justice Department months and months before the the dossier comes out and public, or do we we hear about it?
And so she's got this backdoor channel going into the Justice Department just like Steele did when she went to Bruce Orr, her husband and fed the dossier, just like uh James Baker had it when he took that information from the DNC lawyer and brought it into the FBI.
There were all these channels flooding the FBI with this bogus research.
And and uh who knew what and how high did it go is going to be the question that will dominate the second half of 2019.
What was your reaction to the hearings today with the attorney general?
A lot of political theater, but not much substance, right?
Everyone threw their bombs.
It was it was all for political ads, but at the end of the day, uh Bill Barr has a very compelling defense.
If you think I was trying to mislead you, why did I release the whole report just a few weeks later?
Yeah, it doesn't hold up as a story.
It just doesn't hold up.
It's it's a it's a it's a bogus outrage.
Well, I mean, the the fact that they they last night, both the Washington Post and New York Times, they wanted to set up this fight for earlier today, but they even contradicted in the body of their articles the the real emphasis emphasis, which is okay, Barr got the letter from Muller and he called Mueller and he asked Mueller and Muller emphasized that there was nothing, nothing.
In the attorney general's March 24th letter that was inaccurate or misleading.
Yeah, I think the more interesting thing is why why does Mueller feel the need to send this letter?
If you're just worried about, hey, I explained why I did my declinations to the Attorney General, which was his real job under the law, that's all he's supposed to do, then who cares uh how it's spun in the in the press.
It it looks to me as though Mueller and his team were trying to control the political narrative.
That's not something that prosecutors should be concerned with.
And when you look at the letter, he literally is bragging that, hey, I wrote this in such a way you could release my beautiful prose just the way I wrote it.
It's not how prosecutors are supposed to act.
I'll defer to Greg who has such great legal b background, but it does not feel like the sort of declination letter that's required in the court of law.
It feels like it was a political play in the court of public opinion, and that really tarnishes Bob Mueller's legacy here.
Let me get to you, uh, Greg Jarrett.
First reacting to John's article, Nelly Orr's high honey emails and emails to the DOJ about Russia collusion uh raises an awful lot of questions uh about you know, again, this this small group of people in every way, shape, manner, and form organized in this effort.
Number one to rig Hillary's investigation, number two to impact the 2016 election for the favored candidate.
Uh even willingness to use what the New York Times suggesting now is potentially Russian disinformation that Hillary bought and paid for.
I'm hearing rumors.
John, tell me if I'm wrong that there might have been some meetings with Christopher Steele that will blow that part of this wide open in a way that nobody saw coming.
Um I don't know.
Well, I'm I'm just I have little sources, little birdies that talk to me a lot.
I actually do some real work here.
Nobody believes it.
And um and then, of course, the effort to bludgeon the president with Hillary's bought and paid for potentially Russian disinformation, Greg.
Well, kudos to John uh for uh getting more information about Nellie Orr.
Uh I lay out her role in my book, uh, but now uh thanks to John, we're getting a whole lot more information.
You know, when she testified, she only gave limited answers, and then she invoked the spousal privilege, which tipped me off immediately, that she's only uh giving a sliver of what she did uh and knows and so the you know she's in real trouble now because uh if it if it's true that you know she was feeding information directly to prosecutors at DOJ and said otherwise uh in her testimony
You know, that's perjury.
It's a false and misleading statement.
She better go hire herself a crack defense attorney like David Sean, because she's certainly going to need it.
But they were all in on it.
I mean, Nellie Orr and Bruce Orr were meeting in a hotel lobby for breakfast at the end of July, right after Steele had already met with the FBI and composed the first of his dossier memos.
And from there on out, they were all feeding it to the FBI.
And Steele and Simpson were meeting with more than a dozen journalists.
And eventually guys like Isikoff and David Korn took the bait and published it.
And later BuzzFeed published the whole dossier.
And David Sean, you know, I'm sitting here looking at you shaking your head.
And then I want to get into a deeper question for all of you.
Yeah, I listen.
I think what John's report shows, if it has wasn't shown before, is that the investigation probably should start with GPS.
But it's a multi-pronged investigation.
GPS, DOJ, the Clinton campaign.
It has to be coordinated all in one package, it seems to me, with dogged prosecutors.
But you asked also about the reaction to what happened today.
It was a disgrace.
Have you ever before seen members of the United States Senate engaging in these kinds of ad hominem attacks on the Attorney General of the United States who voluntarily showed up there and said, you can see the attacks increasing the more they think Barr is serious about pursuing uh the truth here.
All right I want to be this is now a very serious question.
And I conclude after all of this today is it's over w whether the the the conspiracy lying media recognizes it or not the Russia story is dead as it relates to Donald Trump.
But the Attorney General was very clear very clear that he is moving forward and investigating the Clinton investigation, Pfizer abuse when did this start the entire Russian narrative and Operation Crossfire Hurricane and he it seems like there's nothing now that's off the table and Horowitz coming out next week.
Who is in the most trouble and why we'll start with John Solomon You know I think it's going to start with Christopher Steele.
I think we're going to find out a lot more about his conduct and the possibility that he was setting up episodes to occur so that it would then create evidence that he could report back.
But anyone, anyone who represented to the court that they did not have derogatory information on Christopher Steele when they submitted that FISA, everybody in the chain of approval, including Baker and Comey and Andy
McCabe, are going to be held to a high standard because there will be overwhelming evidence within the next week that the FBI knew in advance of the FISA that Christopher Steele had a bias, that he was leaking information and that he was trying to do it in con before the November 8th election.
Those elements are so essential so derogatory that they should have been disclosed to the FISA court.
Anyone who hid that has committed a crime as Greg is so eloquently uh described so many times before and and Greg I mean you've gone through a list of specific crimes but I would imagine that there's going to be some serious really serious um legal jeopardy for all of those people I can't imagine that there's not going to be indictments here at a level we may not have ever seen before.
Yeah I I agree with John I would start with Christopher Steele's already already a criminal referral against him because he lied to the FBI and got fired for it.
Now he's a British citizen so he's going to be protected uh by the British government and but you might be able to do a deal uh with him because they you know the um uh the MI6 and the GCHQ were feeding um information to CIA director John Brennan And eventually the FBI.
So in order to insulate themselves, they might convince uh the U.S. government to say, all right, we'll we'll give you access to steel.
Steel will lay it all out.
And then you go from there to Glenn Simpson, uh Nelly Orr, Bruce Orr, uh, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, James Comey, uh the whole thing.
Is James Comey going to get indicted in your view?
I believe that it is inevitable.
He's out with an op-ed today, was we discussed.
I I think so.
Um, you know, he not only stole government documents and leaked them, but he also signed off the first two FISA uh warrants, which uh even he admits uh the information was unverified, and the rules are very strict, as David Sean can tell you, you can never use in a FISA application anything that's unverified.
David Show.
Yeah, I think that for me, at least the Justice Department's got to be the place where they clean house first.
First of all, there's so many regulations that they violated, they have such a higher duty to the American people, and so much flows from the infiltration of the Justice Department by political agendas.
That's where FISA flew uh flowed from and so on.
We've got to hold these people accountable.
And again, to me, James Comey and others show this incredible arrogance.
Brennan, people who have felt all along they're going to get away with what they've done.
They have to be sent the message, I'm afraid.
Now the American people know that you are no different from Rudy Giuliani or Kellyanne Conway or any of the other people who sacrificed their once decent reputation for the grifter and liar who sits in the Oval Office.
The last question that I have in 17 seconds do you think it's okay for a president to offer pardons to people who don't testify against him to threaten the family of someone who does.
Is that okay?
What when did he offer a pardon to someone?
I think you know what I'm talking about.
Please.
Please, Mr. Attorney General, you know, give us some credit for knowing what the hell is going on around here with you.
Not really.
So we're gonna listen, you've slandered this man.
Yeah, what I sort of want to know is how do we get how do we get to this point?
I do not think that anyone all all I can say.
I am done.
Thank you very much.
And you slandered this man from top to bottom.
So if you want more of this, you're not gonna get it.
If you want to ask him questions, you can't.
Finally, you lied to Congress.
You told Representative Charlie Chris that you didn't know what objections Mueller's team might have to your March 24th so-called summary.
You told Senator Chris Van Holland that you didn't know if Bob Mueller supported your conclusions, but you knew you lied.
And now we know.
Of course it helps that there are women on that committee, but you know what?
I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee, and many of them believe me, because we all signed on to this letter to uh demand an FDI investigation.
But really, guess who's perpetuating all of these kinds of actions?
It's the men in this country.
And I just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up and step up.
Do the right thing for a change.
Yes, shut up and sit down and shut up and whatever else uh Senator Harono is saying.
Glad you're with us.
Uh as we continue our coverage of the hearings today in our news roundup information overload hour.
Um look, the there's there's one overriding fact that none of these people on the left want to deal with.
No collusion, and there's no obstruction.
And Bob Mueller emphasized that there was nothing in the four-page letter of the attorney general that was inaccurate or misleading.
And the only thing that he it was concerned at all about was the media coverage of the Muller report when it was released before the redactions, and he asked the attorney general to work with the special counsel's team and expedite the process of redacting those things that needed to redact that needed redacting for specific categories.
Um but the one thing that just stands out as you watch this circus Unfold today is this never ending hatred, this rage, this psychosis against all things Donald Trump.
And as they now try to, as as they're floundering and literally in the wind, and they don't know what to do here because it's over, and they lost after putting all of their hopes, dreams, and prayers that the Mueller report would end up with the with an indictment of Donald Trump.
It it didn't come out the way they wanted.
So now they're gonna go in for the fifth time and look into quote Russia collusion.
What they're missing is the attorney general is pointing out, yeah, we're looking into how Hillary's investigation was handled.
We're looking into FISA abuse.
The Horowitz report next week will be coming out.
We expect that not only to deal with that, but perhaps even many other issues that we're not quite aware of yet.
And the closed door testimony of 53P we we will get to the bottom of it.
When did this Mueller investigation start?
Did Hillary really pay for, as the New York Times is now suggesting, Russian disinformation in the dossier she bought and paid for?
And so much more information.
Anyway, here to join us uh and get his take on all things insanity, the sewer, the swamp is Bill O'Reilly, BillO'Reilly.com for all things, Bill, including his new radio show and his books.
He's, by the way, in the process of uh writing a book about Donald Trump, the uh United States of Trump, how the president really sees America, and uh, how are you, sir?
Exhausted.
Did I miss something this morning with Baron?
Did I miss that?
No, nothing, nothing at all, Bill.
What do you been up to?
You know, I I just think it's so hollow.
Let me advance the story for the uh Hannity radio audience.
No, for the folks, Bill.
We got to use your lingo for the folks.
Of course, but I'm assuming they're one and the same.
Um so, as you know, but I don't know if a lot of Americans know this.
There are groups uh affiliated with the Democratic Party and the Republican Party that are called political action committees.
And they're on K Street in Washington, many of them.
And every morning they have conference calls with uh party apparatus, um pro-Trump people, pro uh Democrats, whatever it may be.
So my information, and I believe it to be true, and I don't like using anonymous sources, but I've got somebody from the inside on the Democratic team, uh, and I don't want to burn that person.
It's kind of like Serpaco, you know.
Um, that the order has gone out to people like Harano, who we just heard on the uh clip that you ran, and Nadler and the other Democrats in Congress, um, to keep the Mueller investigation alive until the election.
Make it a campaign issue because Americans are now so confused, uh, because most people don't pay attention, that they really don't know.
So there's no downside for the Democrats to keep it alive.
And that means that whatever comes up, they're gonna say, Oh, Trump did it.
Well, it doesn't really matter to Mueller said he didn't do it as far as collusion is concerned, he did it.
And we're gonna keep that drum pounding until election day.
So that's what you're seeing today, and that's what you'll see for the next year and a half.
You know, look, Bill, I I understand politics, you understand politics, but if we stand back and you know, all right, so President Trump's been there now over two years, and we see records on the economy that we never dreamed of after eight years of Biden Obama, you know, it was a pretty horrific record.
I mean, 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty, lowest labor participation since the 70s, worst recovery since the 40s, 51 year low home ownership rate, never the only president ever to reach 3% GDP growth in a year, and accumulated more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined.
Compare that to record low unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment.
He's got a pretty strong record to run on.
And by the way, all of this Russia Russia stuff Happened on Biden Obama's watch, not Trump's.
Well, the only uh hope the Democrats have is to make it all about Donald Trump, the election of 2020.
It's gonna be all about him.
Can't be on policy, because I think Biden is gonna get the nomination unless they have something.
The far left's gonna try to destroy him.
They may have something on him.
Um, every human being's a sinner, everybody has stuff they're not proud of in their past.
So you might have a Biden revelation come up.
But if you don't, and it's not you know cataclysmic, I think Biden is pretty much gonna coast to the nomination.
Um if you look at the field, there's really nobody.
Is it on paper I agree with you, but in reality, with this new Democratic Party, I think all bets are off, you know, with this crazy new Green Deal stuff.
I I think they saw the CNN poll this week, uh the money man inside the Democratic Party, the people I was just talking about, the people that meet in the morning on the conference calls.
They know Bernie Sanders can't beat Trump.
They know Mayor Pete can't beat him or any of the others.
I don't think they're going to put the Stacey Abrams on the second.
I think that deal's been done with Biden.
He'll put her on the second black woman from Georgia.
Uh and I think that's how it's gonna go.
So the Democrats in order to win have to make it well, Trump's corrupt, Trump's alone, Trump's this, Trump's that.
You already see it.
You already see they're shaping that argument.
And in order to enhance the argument, they're gonna be able to do that.
So let me ask you that.
Does hating Trump or running on hating Trump and dealing with a party that again they have an eight-year track record.
I mentioned the economy, then you also can bring Iran into the the mix and and and tell Vladimir all of more flexibility.
Um and then the new Green Deal.
They're not gonna run issues, they can't.
How can they?
They don't have anything.
What?
Open borders?
They're gonna run on open borders, what everybody in?
Pretty much.
That's what they're doing.
That's what all the others are doing, Bill.
I mean, who knows what Biden spots gonna be.
You know, you numbers are numbers.
So they're not they can't run on open borders.
They can't run on, well, we're we're the great economists, can't run on that.
All right, but think about what you're saying.
You're saying that b Biden is gonna go against the base of his party, the most enthusiastic voters.
He'll patronize them.
He'll kiss their butts like he did on the View.
He'll do that.
But in the end, when it comes down to the debate between uh Trump and Biden, Biden will uh move to the uh center.
That's what Barack Obama did.
He'll move to the center once he's got the nomination locked.
Let me ask this.
So you think in the primary which is historically how things have work, what you're describing.
You you you run to the left, you run to the right, you move to the center, you try to appeal the most amount of people.
I I I don't see that he has the enthusiasm and the base and the excitement of Barack Obama.
Um by that well, that's a problem, though.
You've got to have people be motivated to go out and vote for you on election day.
Look, love and hate motivate voters, love and hate.
So Barack Obama was love and love and love him and go out and vote for him, and they did.
So now it's gonna be Trump, we hate him, maybe hate him, go out and vote against him.
Whether that'll work or not, I I don't know whether that'll work.
I'm not sure whether that'll work.
But I am sure that that's what the Democratic Party is gonna run on.
We're gonna be able to do that.
If the president continues a strong economy, there's a report out today that we are on the verge of a massive trade deal with China to to sort of close the gap, the imbalance, the trade imbalance.
If this type of growth continues, you know, and barring any unforeseen foreign endeavor that we need to involve ourselves in, and the economy is the best that it's been in twenty years, you know, you say love and hate drive elections, but so do peace and prosperity.
Yeah, I think Trump wins.
I think Trump wins.
Yeah, if you have a vibrant economy uh in November two thousand um twenty.
I think Trump wins.
Unless he goes crazy.
You know, uh because and when I say that, I don't mean he loses control of himself or anything like that.
He's a disciplined man.
That's what people don't know about Donald Trump.
I mean, uh when I'm writing this book, he's a fascinating guy.
He's a very disciplined man.
Wears a tie-in jacket every day, uh, comes down at the same time to the Oval Office.
He's very disciplined.
He never stops working, ever.
But he's insecure.
And and he doesn't process attacks on himself very well.
I don't think it's insecurity.
I think he's a born fight.
I think he's uh I think his instincts are to constantly understand that you're you're in a battle.
Everything's a negotiation, everything is a fight.
But sometimes he overreacts.
Listen, I there are certainly times I wish he wouldn't tweet.
Who cares?
All right, stay right there, Bill.
You grew up in uh well, Levitown.
I remember I don't know what to and your mom had to put up with you because you were an incorrigible kid, right?
Well, thanks.
Thanks for trying to do that.
Well, I mean, you actually wrote a book on it.
It's not a secret.
I think we we actually have that in common.
I admit my that I was incorrigible.
There was no control.
I don't think it's a worse than you.
You were in Franklin.
I was in Levitant.
All right.
So look, uh, how does this end?
Because we already know if they don't get him on which they didn't get him on collusion, they didn't get him on obstruction, and now they want to, you know, empower the IRS to take on political opponents and and go after every banking statement in Donald Trump's life in the hopes that they'll find something something on this fishing expedition.
How does this end?
I'm gonna ask you a question.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah, go ahead.
Take over my show, Bill.
It's no problem.
Um do you think Comey's gonna get indicted uh after uh that report comes out from Horowitz next week?
I think the following people are likely to have criminal referrals, and if there's justice, yes, they'll be indicted.
One is Hillary.
One is Hillary, one is Comey, McCabe struck page.
Then you got people like Bruce and Nelly Orr, uh Clapper and Brennan should be nervous, Susan Rice should be nervous, and Attorney General Lynch, and I think it goes right into the Obama White House.
What did Obama and Biden knowing what when did they know it?
Yeah, I do.
Well, that's how it ends.
So next week It'll take a year to finish the story.
That's okay.
Okay, you got to you're saying you have nothing better to do than wait wait till I get you the answer.
Well, you just said you think that they're all gonna get referred to criminally, right?
I th I do believe there absolutely hundred percent.
If that comes true, I don't know if the the list is going to be that long.
But I think Comey may get indicted.
I agree.
And the and the tip-off was today, he just wrote I don't know whether you know this or an op-ed for the New York Times.
That's your tip.
All right, I gotta run.
Uh uh Bill O'Reilly.com.
Uh Bill, thanks for being with us.
Good to good to hear from you again.
Okay, John, thank you.
All right, 800 941.
Sean, your call's next as our final hour of free-for-all continues.
What the house is doing is way over the top.
Muller is the final word on this.
I fought like hell to make sure Muller could do his job without interference.
And reduce legislation so that he couldn't be fired without cause.
And I told everybody in the country, if the president colluded with the Russians, that would be horrible and terrible, but I don't believe he did, and Mueller said he didn't.
This is over.
This is political revenge.
The House is on a witch hunt, truly a witch hunt, to try to make something out of nothing.
Uh he wanted uh he argued for putting out summaries uh of each volume, the executive summaries uh that had been written by his office.
Uh and if not that, then other material that focused on the issue of why he didn't reach the obstruction question.
But he was very clear with me that he was not suggesting that uh we had misrepresented his report.
You have to have specific intent to obstruct justice.
If there's no underlying reluctant to do this, we rarely do, but the chairman of the judiciary committee just said that Mueller found there was no collusion.
That is not correct.
I'm sorry, Lindsey Graham, but your defensiveness is showing.
To talk about everything that went into it and the next breath distort it's a stunning, stunning mischaracterization of what the whole exercise is, especially about reveals what I talked about before.
That he is sitting there today, not as the chairman of the judiciary committee, but as a human shield for Donald Trump, and it would appear William Bob.
Again, we try to offer just uh uh gavel to gavel coverage, but that a phrase or the lack of it, uh it's absence from federal code, this no collusion mantra.
That of course is your sick, ugly, twisted media.
Um it is beyond comprehension that this is how they they cannot accept the simple truth, which is the words himself of Bob Mueller,
that there was no American that colluded, conspired uh with Russian operatives to create chaos in the 2016 election, but yet they cling to it, they hold on to it, they cannot admit that they're wrong, that they they bought into conspiracies and lies.
Same Brian Williams that saw people floating right outside of his hotel at Katrina.
The only problem was there was no water around his hotel.
And now, oh, we we don't do this, we don't do this offer.
I'm Brian Williams, MBC News.
Um was it in New Orleans that you saw that the kind of mature to mature man?
You know, it's funny.
Here we are, remembering uh the loss of our colleague Ed Bradley.
Ed just handed me an Emmy for our work in Katrina.
Just weeks ago, handed me the Emmy that I accepted for my colleagues.
And when I was down there, I used to be a firefighter, volunteer firefighter in New Jersey.
I was wearing the boots that I've owned since 1976.
I had them pulled up as waiters.
When you look out of your hotel room uh window in the French quarter and watch a man float float by face down when you see bodies that you last saw in Banda Aceh, Indonesia, and swore to yourself that you would never see in your country.
A spectacular lie.
I mean, so look, it's very, very hard in life for people to just admit a truth.
These are not usual times.
We're dealing in in a in a time frame where there is a mass rage underlying a massive psychosis, and literally people that have lost touch with all reality, they cannot accept that Donald Trump won.
They cannot accept the results of the Mueller report.
They cannot accept that there was no conspiracy to conspire, collude with Russia in the lead up to 2016.
They can't accept that you know the Mueller report did not give them what they had anticipated.
What the FBI didn't have after nine months, what the House Intel Committee couldn't find either, and the Senate bipartisan committee could not find.
And what they're really gonna have a hard time dealing with is what's coming.
What the Attorney General Barr saying today is very clear.
The Horowitz FISA abuse investigation is going to be devastating.
there's going to be criminal referrals you know he he was asked a series of questions i think at one point by marcia blackburn are you concerned about you know hillary's rigged investigation Yep.
Were you concerned about lying to Pfizer court judges?
Yep.
Are you concerned about the abuse of power of the upper echelon of the FBI and the DOJ and the intel community?
Yep.
Are you going to get to the bottom of it?
Yep.
Now, this is a process that is going to unfold in the days and the weeks and the months ahead.
And what we do know is a lot of this now.
We're going to go back in some cases and revisit.
Now with Hillary, you know, for all their claim about their passion for if there was obstruction, if there was collusion, there seems to be now some credible evidence emerging.
That we We we already know what Hillary did and why she did it.
We know that when she claimed that there was no top secret classified information on that secret server, she lied.
That's an that's an indisputable fact.
It's incontrovertible.
That is a clear violation of felony, 18 USC 793, and we know that being the underlying crime, even struck and page saying, Loretta Lynch is calling the shots.
She's never gonna indict Hillary.
They're all Democrats in there.
She wouldn't even call it an investigation, but a madder.
And then, of course, what was the intent of deleting subpoenaed emails, 33,000?
What was the intent behind the bleach bit, the attempt behind the hammers of the devices, the intent of removing SIN card SIM cards, that was to remove the evidence, destroy the evidence, obstruction of justice.
And if the Russian dossier that she bought and paid for, so interesting, we learned last night that in fact the the Obama group that he's associated with, it it's spent nearly a million dollars with fusion GPS.
Well, that's now problematic because of the New York Times and Bob Woodwork, they're beginning to think uh oh, the dossier may have been Russian disinformation.
And yeah, that's confirmed by Barr today.
And that she had it, she bought it, she paid for it.
And when we find out when Christopher Steele may have come to brief people, and the fact that Bruce Orrest, you know, kind of was sounding the siren and alarm and told everybody it's not verified, and Hillary paid for it and still hates Trump, and they used it anyway, and they were all told it was phony.
Well, that means they conspired to commit fraud on a Pfizer court.
That means all the people that signed it are in deep trouble, and that is criminal.
And you know, forget Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
This is Operation Boomerang.
And it's going to be an avalanche, and it's going to come cascading down on everybody.
Now they they can hold on to their collusion, delusion, their fantasy and their conspiracy, all that they want, but facts are facts, and they lost.
They put all their hopes, all their dreams with no evidence and their anonymous sources, and as they convince themselves, you know, with breathless reporting and breathless and hysterical reporting every single plus day for two years, you know, they I guess have now diluted themselves to believe their own lie.
And the fact that they have the double standard is not surprising.
They cared about obstruction, you'd care about subpoenaed emails deleted.
If you cared about the rule of law, you'd care about Hillary.
If you cared about equal justice under the law, you would be demanding a full investigation and all of that.
If you cared about Russian interference, well, then you should be concerned about the Russian lies that were perpetrated to the American people and leaked to the American people before the election.
And if you if you believe in free and fair and open elections, you should be very concerned that fraud was committed against Pfizer courts on four separate occasions.
And on the first occasion before the election in 2016, it gave them full and complete access to everything Trump world, Trump campaign world, then Trump transition world, and then Trump president's world.
It gave them everything.
Because they had carte blanche through Carter Page's Pfizer warrant to look at everything.
Now that is a clear present real danger to our Democratic Republic.
And it doesn't seem to concern any of these people.
All right, let's say hi to uh Vanessa's in New Mexico.
How are you?
I'm doing good, thank you.
Um, I just w wanted to um ask if you could um light a fire under the Republicans to um bring up the fact that uh President Obama committed a struct obstruction uh with Holder with not letting him testify with the uh fast and furious um debacle,
and then also with the whole little Lois Lerner um IRS, um what they did to the Tea Party people, and just remind the Democrats while they continue to yell obstruction because they have nothing to stand on, and they know they've been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
But just to remind the public of what uh the the true obstruction that was um perpetrated by President Obama and his administration.
Look, uh I uh it's all going closer, inching closer and closer, right into the Oval Office, and maybe Biden himself, his world along with Obama in terms of discussions about all of this.
And and we cannot forget to remind the American people this all happened on their watch.
And they did nothing.
And they had been warned.
Scott in North Carolina, thank you, Vanessa.
Uh Scott, how are you?
We're glad you called.
I am doing fine, Sean.
It is such a such an honor to get to talk to you today.
Oh, it's all mine.
Thank you.
I'm the law enforcement officer in North Carolina, and I'm Well, thank you.
By the way, thank you for what you do.
Thank you, sir.
Uh, it's a pleasure and an honor to do that as well.
Um, sir, I I something has struck my fancy as far as this Mueller investigation.
And law enforcement, if we make a stop on a vehicle or uh go have to go into a house or whatever, there are rules that we have to go by.
And if we violate any of those rules and we go in, say on bad information or whatever, and and we find something, say we find a dead body, say we find drugs or whatever.
Invisible comes to trial, all that goes away.
It's fruit from a poison tree because I wasn't supposed to be there anyway.
So my point, my question is, why wouldn't that apply to the guys who are serving time now through the Mueller investigation because the stuff that they were caught for, they wouldn't have been caught if it wasn't for this fraudulent investigation.
You know, it's such a good point that you're making.
Let's imagine you went in for a warrant and you provided false information to the court about the individual that you wanted the warrant on, or maybe you know, an application to put in surveillance of some kind, which is how our system works, and you let's say you purposefully lied in that case.
Uh the consequences would probably mean in your case you're done.
Your job is over, and you might even get charged.
I would get charged, and the people that I hope to charge would be set free because you do, by the way, every day.
I know, you know, everybody forgets, and I I can't state this enough.
It is um it is instinctive to me to be appreciative of all law enforcement.
You know, my that's what my parents, that's where they were.
My mom, a prison guard, 25 years, my dad in family court uh probation.
Oh my so many cousins that were cops that I can't even name them all, and two cousins that were the the top, kind of like deity, everyone looked up to made it to the FBI.
That is the 90 plus nine plus percent of FBI agents.
That's the 99% of intelligence people.
That's the 99% of those that work in law enforcement.
But when you have a few bad apples, it sadly impacts all of the good people.
Um, and I urge people and remind people as often as they can.
Those people that abuse power here, they speak for themselves.
They're responsible for what they did.
It should not impact how we view the greatest law enforcement, premier law enforcement agency on the entire planet, the FBI.
Anyway, thank you, sir.
I appreciate it.
God bless you in your work every day.
We really uh wish you the best, Godspeed and safety every day as well.
All right, Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
I I can tell you the media is in a freak out mode.
The big headlines of the day, it's very simple, and that is Mueller over.
It's done on every level.
But the Attorney General clearly saying, yeah, he's investigating the rigged investigation, the FISA abuse.
Uh, when did the Mueller investigation operation, crossfire hurricane really begin, etc.?
Lindsey Graham, Ken Starr, Andy McCarthy, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Senator Hawley, uh, Pam Bondy, Carl Rove, and others tonight at nine, Hannity, Fox News will see you then on the Bar Beatdown.
