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Um terrible bombings in Sri Lanka over the week and nearly 300 people killed.
We'll have a full report coming up later in the program.
You have uh bombs tearing apart three separate churches, three separate hotels, another explosion at a housing complex.
I think they found 84 detonators at a particular bus stop that had not been finished.
And we know nearly 300 killed, among them at least four U.S. citizens, 24 people in Sri Lanka in custody, and the attacks appear to have been carried out by suicide bombers with a network of radical terror, and officials have uh suggested that there was some advanced terror plot.
Intelligence may have ignored it.
That's never good.
Never.
I mean, what was the lesson of 9-11?
You have the Kenya, Tanzania, the first trade center bombing, the USS Cole, the conclusion of the 9-11 report.
I didn't agree with everything.
They were at war with us.
We were not at war with them.
You know, yeah, we we beat back the caliphate in Iraq and Syria.
We've taken back all the territory that they had gained, every single bit of it.
And but radical Islamic terror is a threat.
You know, and it manifests in many groups, different forms.
And Al Qaeda, obviously, one ISIS, then you've got, you know, all Hezbollah, Hamas, you know, radical Islamic, Muslim Brotherhood, all these groups that buy into this twisted sick, you know, ideology that believes convert or die, or strapping bombs in some cases, even on your own children to advance the caliphate.
And telling your own kids that they'll be rewarded in heaven.
It's insane.
You know, you and the hard part is when you see moments like this unfolding, you know, good people have a hard time wrapping their minds around evil.
You know, look at it, look at communism, look at the former Soviet Union, Stalin, look at fascism, look at Nazism, Imperial Japan.
We, you know, the cost, the human toll.
The last century was a about a hundred million human souls killed as a result of extremism.
You know, my biggest fear, keep me up at night is radical Islamists with a nuclear weapon.
Wouldn't, you know, that is a powder keg we cannot deal with.
And if you marry that sick ideology, those are perverted their religious beliefs, that evil that they embrace.
If those radicals get a hold of that weapon, what would make you think it would stop them from using it?
Especially, you know, those look at the mullahs in Iran, stated a goal, wiping Israel off the map.
You know, there's a reason why even the Saudis, The Egyptians, the Jordanians, the Emirates, and others have aligned with Israel in the United States because they fear that nightmare, that Iranian hegemony, those radical Mullers.
You know, it's sad to think of the 150 billion in cash and other currency being dumped on the tarmac for those Mueller's.
You know, by the way, Joe Biden, good luck explaining that if you're going to get in this week.
Um, you know, I watched this weekend, I really kept distant from it because I was off TV Friday night, and I just, you know, every time I'd read some coverage, see what was going on.
It's like these people on the left, you know, we've discussed this rage, this psychosis, this mass psychosis, and it is fully and completely and utterly consumed the Democratic Party.
The party now finds itself in conflict.
You have those that, and I have we've got all the articles here.
We're gonna get to in the course of the program.
Mark Penn, by the way, wrote a great article.
Muller's done, Democrats should be two, Trump is not Nixon.
You know, but of course, Muller and his merry band of Democratic donors, you you look at part two on the obstruction, why he didn't make a decision.
He's basically saying, Yeah, here, if you want to impeach him, go ahead.
We don't like him anyway.
Well, number, you know, if anyone cared about obstruction, how do you not mention the name Hillary Clinton?
The double standard is so flagrant.
You have an underlying crime.
There was no underlying crime for Donald Trump.
He was screaming his innocence.
He was, as Trey Gowdy said, if you're innocent, act like an innocent person would act.
I think most innocent people would declare their innocence.
And the idea that the president who had all the authority legally to remove Mueller and remove Rod Rosenstein and make the changes and stop the investigation, it would have politically been disastrous, but he had the power to do it.
He did not proclaiming your frustration with a witch hunt when you can only say so many ways we found no evidence of collusion, which is what the Mueller report said again and again.
But that still doesn't stop them.
Hillary had an underlying crime.
She even warned the State Department staff underneath her when she was Secretary of State.
She said, don't use private email for work-related things exactly.
Like, oh, top secret, classified information.
Well, that's what that private server was about, or top aides all knew about it.
Barack Obama knew about it.
Because when we found out the high-ranking official that had emailed her, one was Barack Obama and classified, top secret, special access programming information.
All on there.
What was the intent of the deletions of subpoenaed emails and bleach bit acid wash of the hard drives and the destruction of blackberries and iPhones with hammers and removing SIM cards?
Oh, the intent was to get rid of the evidence that confirmed the underlying crime.
None of these people in the media, none of these Democrats that are out there on television all weekend, well, we may pursue impeachment against Donald Trump.
You know, the Adam cowardly shift, I mean, just makes it up lies with abandon.
I've never seen a greater liar than this guy.
What part of there's no collusion didn't he understand?
But he'd been out there preaching forever that it's there.
Listen, it's over.
They lost.
They didn't get what, for example, television, these networks lied over and over and over and over again for two plus years.
They created an expectation in their audience and excitement, even.
We're gonna get them.
We're gonna get them.
We're gonna now they're they're trying to re after they've deflated everybody because all their hope was in the Mueller report.
And then when it didn't happen, you know, uh, well, uh, maybe the House will do it.
That's what we need.
Maxim Waters over, we have enough information from the Muller report to move forward with impeachment.
Elijah Cummings, if we do nothing after the Mueller report, Trump is going to be emboldened.
Um it is it's you had an uh conspiracy TV.
I saw this on MediaId over the weekend.
Panel actually debating the strategy on impeachment now.
Well, we'd be a mistake to start it right away.
In other words, it'll be clearly politically transparent.
Let's just wait a little while, then we'll dive back in again.
Or one host on MSNBC just ripping into a congressman for not wanting to impeach Trump.
I mean, this is this is now, this is beyond psychosis.
And the few Democrats like Mark Penn that say, uh, you should be done.
No collusion, no obstruction.
They did lose.
It's like that for them, I told you this last week.
It's like it's it's like election night all over again.
They got so jacked up and pumped up when they saw those exit polls at 5.15 on election night 2016.
Those, you know, polls were dead wrong like they were in 2004.
And I think if there's one politician in the country that is somebody you really can't poll accurately, it's Donald Trump.
And the idea that people went in and said, screw you people, I'm not.
Oh, I voted for Hillary.
They come out and they're who'd you vote for?
Hillary.
It is they know people now are so hip to the media bias, they're messing with them.
You know, the idea that we are viewed as smelly Walmart people, irredeemable deplorables, cling to God, our Bibles, our guns, our religion.
That's how these elitists think.
They thought in the deep state that they knew better than us, we, the people.
And that's why, you know, I got into a huge Twitter fight this weekend.
It was some article that came out by the Daily Beast.
Oh, some Russia TV show was using Hannity's monologue on the Mueller report on Russian television.
I'm like, okay, this is you know.
I'm like, really?
Do I have to now delve into this?
Anyway, I tweeted out, I don't know.
You actually have access to Twitter anymore or any of any social media, haven't for a long time.
And I just went at them.
You know, maybe they should have included my numerous comments about Russia being a hostile regime, Putin a hostile bad actor.
How dangerous he is to our country.
Then I tweeted about, well, Devin Nunez, if Obama, it all happened on his watch had paid attention.
Devin Nunez warned about all of this happening in the 2016 election back in 2014.
And of course, they didn't lift a finger to help on the Devin Nunes warning.
And he knew they did nothing to prevent it.
How many times is the hate Trump media mob lied to you, the American people?
You know, first of all, we now know the investigation into Hillary is rigged.
That's part one.
We've got to go back to it.
Then we know the phony Russian dossier was never verified and unverifiable.
And everybody now knew, we found out from Bruce Orr's testimony that hey, he warned everybody.
Steele hates Trump.
Hillary paid for it.
It's not verified.
But still it becomes the bulk of information and four separate FISA application warrants.
Well, those warrants denied a fellow American his constitutional rights.
Gave Obama's government and Hillary's campaign yet another path to spy on the Trump campaign beyond Stefan Halper, who was charged to go after Paige Clovis and Papadopoulos.
By the way, you think the media is ever going to admit and be honest and introspective and self-reflective and admit they're wrong and retract?
You know, no.
They're going to jump on the next 16-year-old kid with a MAGA hat like they did Nicholas Sandman in Covington High School.
They'll double down on slander and besmirchment.
I love how they just cherry pick your comments.
You know, maybe this media mob can apologize to the American people for the two plus years of lies and conspiracy theories.
Maybe they can finally look into Hillary's rigged investigation.
If they care so much about obstruction, why did she delete 33,000 subpoenaed emails, Bleach bit, deletions, hammers.
You ever gonna ask that?
Ever gonna ask about the lying Russian dossier that was spread to the Washington Post and elsewhere.
You know, full of lies, used as a Pfizer application to get into the Trump campaign.
This fake news industrial complex in America.
They're no better than Russian propaganda.
All they know is they hate Trump.
Maybe they could uh look at all the times.
How is it we're right?
Richard Jewell, Cambridge UVA, Duke LaCrosse, Ferguson, Baltimore, vetting Obama, reporting Obama's failures, Covington High School, Justice Kavanaugh versus their treatment of Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.
How many more times can they get this wrong?
Their track record is the wreckage in Carnage speaks for itself.
By the way, they're all gonna pay.
As it relates to what they did to these Covington kids, they're gonna pay a fortune.
They're gonna lose so they're gonna lose, they're gonna lose hundreds of millions of dollars is my prediction.
Lynn Wood is not gonna stop.
And he's not motivated by money.
That's that's even worse for them.
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Look, there's a lot that is gonna come out now.
And James Rosen of Fox confirmed what the president had said to me in the last interview I had with him, and that is that Trump is going to declassify these five buckets we always tell you about gang of aid, uh the FISA applications, uh 302s, all the stuff that we talk about.
And James Rosen says it's happening sooner than later.
And a lot of this will expose what the media, the 99% missed, which is the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in history.
And it will chronicle the abuse, again, upper echelon, and I'll always put that caveat in because it's not fair to the 99% of good agents, FBI, intelligence people.
These people risk their ass for us every single day and put their butts on the line for us.
I'm sorry.
They they're as aggravated as we are.
And but, you know, the Pfizer abuse, the rigged investigation, the Horowitz report, the Hoover report, now the bar investigation, and it's basically an attempt to rig an election, rig an investigation, and undo an election after they lost.
And all of these items that will be declassified, you know, the Pfizer applications themselves.
We know the bulk of information came from Hillary's bought and paid for a Russian dossier, and it's all the names you've heard.
Jim Comey, I wrote it way before his book came out.
I tweeted out, you have the right to remain silent.
I advise you to use it.
He didn't.
He's under criminal investigation, Struck and Page and Orr, etc.
You know, but the promise of the president to do this is now real.
And the president's now saying that they are taking a fresh look at the declassification.
It's going to happen.
And when it does, it's not going to be pretty, but it's necessary if we are to stop this abuse of power in the future.
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Anyway, the declassification we expect.
Um, here's where the psychosis gets runs even deeper than I think anybody ever thought.
Because it's not only that the media, the the Democrats, they bought it all hook line and sinker, but when did they know?
You know, when did they know?
For example, one question I have is now that Mueller's declared there's no collusion, no collusion, no collusion, no Russia collusion, no evidence of any collusion of any American with Russia.
Um, and then we have all the process crimes, and and rightly so, I would assume the indictment of these bot companies, whoever these people are, and these Russian intelligence figures, I know they're important, identifying them, but we're never gonna get them extradited to the U.S. because they're the people that was actually responsible for trying to create election chaos, etc.
And, you know, the fact that Ukraine is now offering America an admission that they too meddled in our election, and they're saying we meddled on behalf of Hillary Clinton and we're willing to give you all the evidence, and there's not one person, just like with the Hillary Clinton,
you know, whole case of obstruction, they all care about obstruction, but not her deletions and her bleach bit and her hammers to on subpoenaed 33,000 emails, they don't care about that.
They care about bludgeoning Justice Kavanaugh, but they couldn't give a rip about believing those that accused the lieutenant governor of Virginia of rape and violent sexual assault.
This is all selective moral outrage.
And, you know, yeah, so they're they're just trying to figure out how they're what they're going to do next.
How are they going to deal with this?
And the radicals that have now taken over the Democratic Party, that this is what they want.
And they feel that, well, I think Mueller's if you really pay attention, he's giving us a roadmap to impeachment, which by the way, I mean, Levin was right when it was on Thursday night.
This is a roadmap.
This is a political document, especially the obstruction stuff.
You see, if some prosecutors, if they decide, which Muller even did, and that's why it took Rosenstein, the Office of Legal Counsel, the Attorney General Barr, basically seconds, because also they were in contact with the with the special counsel's office the whole time.
But the fact that, you know, if you don't have the evidence, if it doesn't rise to the level of indictment, even though maybe, you know, some things are a little whatever.
Usually you never release the information at all.
Unless you're going to indict somebody.
And it is a political document that is never, but it's, you know, Democrats are hoping to use it as a roadmap to impeachment.
And if they can't get that, well, this is the whole issue.
Well, we got plan B, plan B. Let's go after everything Trump related.
And you have House Democrats demanding every tax return, charging him with abuse of power.
Let's get every bit of financial information on the Trumps we can.
Then we're going to go back that way.
And we'll try to impeach them that way.
Well, finally, I mean, after what is the highest level of cooperation we've ever seen.
Million of a million five documents handed over to Mueller.
The president not one time ever invoked executive privilege.
Now, Obama did for Eric Holder and Fast and Furious, and on another number of occasions.
Clinton did as well.
Trump never did.
Even with the dumb the most insane thing in this to me is why was Don McGann allowed 30 hours before Mueller?
That's the White House counsel.
There has to be some privilege somewhere for somebody.
And attorneys for the president after this cooperation and exoneration.
You know, now the president's lawyers rightly looking at what is a fishing expedition and witch hunt to harass a sitting president, have basically now they're suing back the partisan house Democrats demanding all of everything business Trump and attorneys for the president and be like, oh, let's use the IRS to get information.
Now we're subpoenaing their IRS to give us Trump's records.
Oh, you want to empower the IRS to go after political opponents?
Really?
This has gotten this derangement.
There's no constitutional basis for it, but more importantly, there's nobody that is able to get a grip in the Democratic Party or the media saying, wow.
I mean, you have somebody like Mark Penn who will join us later, and somebody like Alan Dershowitz.
Hello, we're a party that believes in civil liberties somewhere, but it doesn't matter.
Anyway, so the attorneys for the president filed a lawsuit today that seeks to block all these subpoenas by Elijah Cummings and Nadler's committee and Maxim Waters and Schiff's committee and the secret memorandum of understanding with Congressman Cummings and the cowardly Schiff and Gerald Nadler.
And it was filed in federal court.
And you know, the Cummings is saying that, well, they have ignored the constitutional limits on Congress's power to investigate.
You don't get to go on fishing expeditions by ordering the IRS to turn over any citizens tax information.
Why?
Because they're going to fish through it and find now we got them.
When are they ever going to think of the American people in this?
What have this group of Democrats ever put forward to lower prescription drug costs like our friend Dr. Josh Umber?
Or to fix the disaster where millions lost their doctors, their plans and were promised they'll save money.
Everybody pays more, millions lost doctors and plans.
Some people have one choice in many cities and towns in this country.
You know, you've got you know, let's look at the scorecard.
This was in The Guardian, Elizabeth Warren tweeting out, I read the Mueller report.
When I got to the end, I realized this is a point of principle.
The severity of this misconduct demands that elected officials and both parties set aside political considerations and do their constitutional duties.
All right, she wants to outflank everybody else that's running for president.
And she followed, you know, Robert Francis Beito Bozo, who was for impeachment before he was against impeachment, but now he's back for impeachment.
Sort of like Kamala Harris.
She's for Medicare for all, but no private insurance.
Wait, I might support private insurance.
No, I'm gonna stick with no private insurance.
They're literally flailing, but especially in their attempts to destroy this president.
Well, Rourke's saying over the week in a Senate campaign that he would vote to impeach Trump or recently, you know, said, well, maybe it's not a good idea.
Even Schiff was like, well, I'm not sure if it's not good for the American people.
You know, the American people have November of 2020 is coming.
They can decide then.
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Mayor Comrade de Blasio, we'll get to this later, but he's announcing a ban on skyscrapers and retrofitting every big building in New York.
This is this is insane.
His version doing it within five years.
You know, he's have strong mandates.
The biggest source of emissions in New York City is buildings, and he wants buildings that will reduce emissions.
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By the way, uh Congresswoman Omar says laws against drugs are racist.
Another extreme part of the party.
Matt Gates actually went on the record.
I read his comments in the Washington Examiner today over the weekend that um there may be an element of bribery behind the cozy relationship with the fake fraudulent obsessed media and the Obama FBI.
We're gonna watch.
Listen, Obama's up to his eyeballs in this deep state stuff.
It's it's not if it's when all of this is coming out.
This is nothing, I'm just telling you to sit back and watch how wrong they all were.
How obsessed they were.
You know, the uh the New York Times still testified that his dossier might have been fabricated by Russia.
This is pretty funny, based on previously unreported testimony from Steele.
New York Times had to report today that Steele's Trump dossier, which Hillary paid for, which Obama's FBI used to justify spying on the Trump campaign was likely Russian disinformation, you think?
Which would mean the same dossier that was bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign, which means Hillary Clinton may have bankrolled a Russian disinformation campaign to try and rig the 2016 election.
It's always gonna come down to this.
It's not that hard, and it's not that complicated, and whether they like it or not, it's all gonna happen.
And I'm telling you that we're gonna get to the bottom of all this, and all this information is gonna come out, and the American people are gonna open their eyes and say, How oh my God, how did this possibly happen in the United States of America?
And by the way, Joe Biden is up to his eyeballs.
All of this happened on his and Obama's watch.
The attorney general was Obama and Biden's.
We know we what I want to know is we know the special when did the special counsel's office know the truth about Russia collusion?
When did they know?
Why did Mueller wait to answer the collusion question?
Michael Mukezzi made this observation.
I think it's a great question.
He was a former federal judge and the AG under George W. Bush.
He was on with My buddy Bill Hemmer at Fox and you know and asked why Mueller did not reveal the most important piece of information uncovered until he submitted his report to William Barb.
When did Mueller know?
When did the people who work for him know that there was no coordination?
Because they should have closed up shop and stop with the process crimes at that point.
When did they realize that big question?
And whenever they realized it should have been, why weren't we told?
Why hold it back?
Well, you have the 18 Democrats that wanted to get to the You know, there's no underlying crime.
This whole thing is a political witch hunt.
President was right.
No collusion, none.
You know, why didn't they reveal it before the midterms?
You know, I'm even a liberal reporter tells his colleague, get off the Russia collusion crackpipe.
Where did I see that on townhall.com?
I mean, the whole summary here, it's um I don't know who said it.
I just read the headline.
It's pretty funny.
You know, the New York Post will do this tonight.
We have a number of top ten lists tonight.
You know, what are the top ten most unanswered questions?
What are the top ten documents we need?
What are the top ten epic media fails?
Byron York had a funny piece.
For some Democrats, breaking up with the dossier is hard to do.
There's a lot of truth in that, too.
My buddy Rowan Scarborough over the Washington Times that Steele made a dozen conspiracy charges against Trump.
Robert Mueller's report debunks the Russian dossier.
He had a great article about that out there.
One former CIA analyst, U.S. intelligence may be biased towards Democrats, you think.
And Schiff, the cowardly liar, is literally saying, Oh, it's all everything I said is proven.
Just the opposite happened.
Where is he, what alternate reality is this guy living in?
Does make you wonder.
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John Solomon has uh a column that he's already written that's coming out, and we will also talk to uh Mark Penn, and he's got a column out tonight, one that he's written.
But Mark Penn, I I'm you gotta love this because they're never going to listen to the day the Doug Shones, the Mark Penns.
Even Stenny Hoyer's looking at this madness as the second most powerful Democrat in the House of Representatives, and he's trying to like give a warning.
Guys, this ain't gonna work out well.
Um, you're losing, you're gonna lose on a greater scale if you keep giving in to this insanity.
And yet they cannot control or help themselves.
It's just it's going to be a fascinating thing to watch, and it will all lead to Donald Trump's re-election.
That's the great irony of what they're doing.
When did uh President Trump say, hey, uh go out there and fire Mueller?
He never did.
You know, I was there at the same time that uh that the report says that you know McGann uh mentioned this.
And uh I dealt with I was I was assigned to deal with Mueller, and I briefed the president every day.
And every week I saw Mueller or quarrels for eight months.
Right.
At no time did the president ever say, you know, John, I'm gonna get rid of him.
John is not gonna do it.
It was just the opposite.
Here's the message the president had for Bob Mueller to me to carry.
One, you tell him I respect what he's doing.
Number two, you tell him he's got my full cooperation.
Number three, get it done as quickly as possible.
And number and number four, uh, whatever else you need.
Yeah, let me know.
So that was always the message, and that's exactly what we did.
He once described to me on this program that the Trump administration's actions related to the Russia probe are, quote, of a size and scope probably beyond Watergate.
What do you say now?
Well, I think it's clear from the Mueller report that that's exactly right.
Uh the obstruction of justice uh in particular in this case is far worse than anything that Richard Nixon did.
Uh the uh the the break in by the Russians of the Democratic institutions, a foreign adversary, far more significant than the plumbers breaking into the Democratic headquarters.
So, yes, I would say in every way this is more significant than Watergate.
Uh and the fact that a candidate for president and now a president of the United States would not only not stand up and resist Russian interference in our election, but would welcome it, goes well beyond anything Nixon did.
The fact that the President of the United States would take Putin's side over his own intelligence agencies go well beyond anything Richard Nixon did.
So, yes, I think it is far more serious than Watergate.
Yeah, of course.
He's been saying that just like he's been saying, I have all the evidence of collusion and it doesn't exist.
I mean, it's really when you have four separate investigations that have all concluded the same thing.
How many more times do I have to go back to this Mueller report and read no collusion?
Just like the FBI uh struck and page, no collusion, a nine-month investigation, although it might have even started earlier, which we're doing a deep dive into even as we speak, and they cannot help themselves.
It is a level of rage, hatred, and psychosis.
You know, the the big question now is is the left-wing radicals of the Democratic Party, are they going to override any bit of common sense?
You have the the newness House Intel report, the bipartisan Senate Committee report, the FBI report, and the Mueller report.
Clearly, no collusion, no obstruction.
It doesn't matter.
And then we want your taxes.
We want it's a tell me where any of this is good for the American people.
What are they doing to serve their constituents?
This is not service.
And the biggest liar of them all is, you know, Adam the Cowardly Schiff.
And it's like the media cannot give up the the the addiction that they have.
Anyway, John Solomon is with us, investigative reporter, executive vice president of the Hill, um, on the latest on the probe.
John has given me a little bit of a preview.
We'll have more details on this tonight.
I don't know how much you can give me, but like we're doing on this program in our own way, you in your own way, you know, you want really specific things answered.
And if we don't answer them and we don't solve the underlying causes, we are risking a system of justice that really does is not predicated on our Constitution any longer.
It's a dual system of justice, no equal justice under the law or application of our laws, and those that abuse power must be held accountable.
That's we're on the same page on that.
Yeah, listen, I think the American public's on the same page as well.
Uh they they this concern about dual justice and and uh uh hijacking of the intelligence and law enforcement community for political purposes is becoming more rooted in the American conscious now that the uh Mueller report is out.
I think the most interesting thing I've heard the last five or six days, and it was in my column uh this morning, uh Sean, is that a growing number of intel people that I'm talking to you are beginning to say we may have had the assessment wrong.
That when we said that Russia was trying to help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton, it may not be that clear.
In fact, a lot of people look at the facts that Mueller has put in the report and said, instead of a collusion uh uh strategy, it looks like uh Vladimir Putin was doing what is known in the spy trade craft as a discoverable influence operation.
What does that mean in layman's terms?
It means he was set up.
It was a setup.
It was designed to be detected so that people would then question uh Donald Trump, uh sort of a uh the intelligence uh uh equivalent of a framing someone.
So to hear that, and one of the people who said that's Daniel Hoffman, the former CIA station chief in Moscow.
If anyone knows Russian spy craft, it's Daniel Hoffman.
When you start to hear the intelligence community talk that way, you realize how wrong the early assessments were and all the early reporting in my industry was, and how much there's uh uh welcoming of a fresh review of all of these conclusions.
When are we talking about going back as far as what?
You know, I I I think you have to begin to take a look at the period that begins in December 2015.
If, as a lot of the facts seem to suggest, this was a political operation, a political OPA research operation designed to create a breadcrumb trail that the FBI would bite on and then go after Donald Trump.
The first key moment seems to occur around December 2015, when, as I previously reported last year, Bruce Orr and uh Christopher Steele, soon to become the APA researcher of the of the Clinton campaign, start talking about trying to get dirt on Paul Manafort through a Russian connection they know as Oleg Derophska, one of the oligarchs they were targeting.
From that point forward, I believe over the next few weeks and months, we will be able to track a series of events where you can see the Democrats working with foreign powers, foreign people.
Let me let me interrupt you because I think I know what you're saying.
In other words, that we might have very high-level people within, say the intelligence community that were farming out things to other allied countries that would be illegal for them themselves to do.
Exactly.
I think that's going to be one of the predominant questions.
Did we did we ask the foreigners to do what our law prevented us from doing uh against American citizens like Trump or or any of his advisors?
I think that's one piece of it.
I think a second piece of it is the Democrats, the Justice Department under Democratic control, State Department under Democratic control, the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign.
Did they work with foreign powers to get information?
We have some pretty strong hints of it, right?
We know that uh Christopher Steele and Bruce Orr are targeting a Russian, Oleg Derophska.
We know Christopher Steele got uh the majority of his information from a former Russian intelligence officer, which by the way doesn't exist when you're in the Russian intelligence, you never leave.
And then we know that there were these contacts with the Ukrainian embassy that Politico wrote about in 2017.
I think we're gonna be able to fill in a lot of gaps between those different points and show a much more robust effort by Democrats and the Democratic administration to work with foreigners to get dirt on Donald Trump.
You go through tonight, and I don't want to give away your story tonight because we're gonna break it on Hannity to the extent that uh you and I have talked.
I'm going from memory here.
Sure.
Um, but in he you know, Mr. Editor teared down these false and unproven Russia collusion stories, which is all true.
But you go into very specific detail about very specific instances that there was an epic fail at the media.
And now we have cable TV, that's one aspect of it.
The Washington Post, the New York Times is an aspect of it.
Um the you know, the other tales about Carter Page and and Manafort Assange and BuzzFeed's unfounded scoop on the Trump Tower of Moscow project, et cetera, et cetera, or you know, Michael Cohn in Prague or you know, the McClatchy who got so much wrong in all of this.
Yep.
Uh you're right.
You know, I uh there's I go back to a very important point in journalism.
I remembered 1998.
That's the day that the Wall Street Journal broke a story about uh Bill Clinton that turned out and Monica Lewinsky that turned out to be false.
And they did the right thing.
Uh they did the wrong reporting, but when they were called on it, they retracted it.
What we've seen my industry do these last few years as overt obvious uh uh information has come out that contradict or uh uh debunk a story.
Instead of correcting and retracting the story, they're just doing appendages, things that people won't notice.
So add a little bit, oh, Bob Muller says he doesn't agree with our assessment.
Well, in the old days, we used to call that story wrong, and we would retract it.
And uh I think the discussion I'd like to have in my own profession is what are the stories that should be retracted, because they're either demonstrably false or now two years in can't be proven.
That standard used to be uh the standard by which we retracted stories, and I think we'll be able to talk tonight about a whole bunch of those stories that don't meet the test of journalism accuracy, turn journalism ethics.
And uh I think there's a good discussion for the American people to demand that our industry fix and retract these stories.
You know, it is an amazing thing.
I got to uh uh I stay off Twitter now.
I don't even have access to my accounts either Linda or or my TV staff tweets out everything.
And I went through a series of tweets this weekend after there was this ridiculous report by the you know absolutely hardline left-wing um, you know, daily beast.
And I just I just we just got into it because there's so much that they have not that they have gotten wrong from the very beginning on all of this.
And you know, it was time for somebody to call them out.
I called them lazy, overpaid, propagandists, you know, false politically driven coverage.
You know, the only the media mob is likely lost all credibility forever.
I made a list of everything that they have been wrong about in terms of of you know, going through the list of smalllet, starting with, for example, Richard Jewell and and straight on through Nicholas Sandman and Cambridge and police and Duke LaCrosse, UVA, Ferguson Baltimore, vetting Obama, they were, you know, or Kavanaugh, I believe, versus the Virgin Virginia Lieutenant Governor.
They've got it all wrong.
And they never are held accountable.
Yeah, we need uh we need a moment in our profession, and and I say this as someone that still reveres the profession and still believes it can do good things in the world, uh, that we need to have an inflection point to acknowledge where we've gotten off the rails.
There was a quote back from nineteen ninety-eight that uh uh uh uh journalism expert said at the time, which is the danger of scandals is that you get so emotionally invested in them that you mistake a bullet for an atom bomb.
And I I think that a lot of what happened here in the intelligence world uh Hey John, with all due respect, you're being very kind and gracious, they always get it wrong.
Well, I I can think of times where we got the profession got it right.
I know what I'm saying.
Well, okay, but hang on.
Think think of the the extent on Donald Trump, everything is wrong.
They loved Obama, they hated Trump, and they acted as such.
And yeah, th are there exceptions to the rules?
Sure.
Um Cheryl Atkinson is an exception, you're an exception.
But generally speaking, they are hardline left that now has gone so over to the other side, they you know, there's an indignation that they cannot admit or retract and apologize as you said, it's never hell will freeze over, John.
It's never gonna happen.
It it may, it may, and that will be an unfortunate thing, because I I think we have to fix ourselves as an industry.
Journalism's dead, except for the few people that really care about truth.
Yeah.
And the you know, it's not by accident that I have a track record that I'm right s almost all the time when they're wrong.
And the same with you.
And the key is to stick to the facts.
And I think so much emotion and politics have gotten into the profession that it clouds the judgment of editors and and of course.
Um let's go back now because let's get a big picture, the days, the weeks, the months ahead, what's coming.
Yeah, I think the biggest dynamic to see is watching the investigators now become the investigated.
That is going to be the dynamic that will uh dominate the next six months.
And that will occur on many fronts.
It'll occur in the intelligence community, it occur with Attorney General Barr who is doing his own assessment.
It will occur with the Inspector General of the Justice Department, and I believe it will occur in both the House and the Senate.
Even Republicans in the minority are starting to do some pretty remarkable things digging into uh some of the issues, and even though they don't have committee power, they still have the power of their office.
And I think you'll see House Republicans, Lindsey Graham, uh uh Ron Johnson of Wisconsin who has a very powerful committee.
I think you'll see between those five sectors a lot of accountability coming out and a lot of hard questions.
And I think the biggest thing the President of the United States can do to help all of those uh gain transparency, declassify the documents that have been identified in those five buckets.
Well, and you want to go remind people I remind them often, but the way you say it is different.
So maybe they'll hear from you better than me.
Well, you've had it right from the beginning.
So it's it's the FISA document.
It's the gang of eight documents.
The the gang of eight would expose the FBI acknowledging failure.
Yes, and showing the missteps.
So when you read those two together, you sort of have the perfect compendium of what went wrong in the FBI.
Then there are some emails that show how early on the FBI knew that there were problems with Christopher Stiell as an informant.
Remember, affirmatively they told the court he was uh in good standing and they knew of no derogatory information.
I don't think that declaration is gonna turn to be out to be true.
You know, I I've gotta give props and kudos to you and I I can't mention every person, but there's maybe twenty or thirty of us that have been on this from day one and uh uh it we wouldn't be here, honestly, without you know, th this is too now critical and crucial to the the republic that we love.
And if we don't solve these problems, it's gonna happen again.
Anyway, thank you so much, John Solomon.
We'll see you tonight on Hannity Nine Eastern Fox News Channel.
Have all of this case of obstruction presented in the Mueller report as you just stated.
Some might ask, why haven't you start why haven't you opened an impeachment inquiry?
Or in fairness, is that what you're doing right now?
I don't think we're doing that.
We may get to that, we may not.
As I said before, it is our job to go to go through all the evidence, uh to all the information.
And to go where the evidence leads us.
Do you think this is impeachable?
Yeah, I do.
I do think that this if proven, if proven, uh, which hasn't been proven yet, some of this uh if proven, some of this would be impeachable.
Yes.
All right.
Construction of justice, if proven would be impeachable.
And then you're gonna go about to see if you can prove it.
Well, we're gonna see where the facts lead us.
The report is out.
The partisan divide seems wide or even wider than ever.
What happens now?
This document, the Mueller document has now left us with a roadmap to go forward.
Uh I think he basically said to us uh as a Congress, it's up to you to take this further with regard to obstruction and uh the and other matters that might come up.
Well, already, Mr. Chairman, uh Elizabeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Maxine Waters, Julian Castro have said we should begin proceedings to impeach the president.
Are you there yet?
I'm not I'm not there yet, but um I I I can foresee that possibly coming.
I and my staff began to look very closely at this president early on.
And when we looked at all of his allies and the people who were connected with him and with Putin and the Kremlin and with the oligarchs of Russia, we determined something was very wrong, and we dubbed them the Kremlin Klan.
The Kremlin Klan as identified has been on my face page on Twitter for almost two years.
We know who they are, and this report only confirms that.
What more do we need to do?
Okay.
So if we cannot decide, if the Democrats cannot decide that they're gonna move with impeachment, I guess they're gonna go on with these investigations.
How long are they going to go on with them?
What more do they need to prove?
That's Nadler, uh Congressman Cummings, Congresswoman, Maxime Waters, and you know, look at the headline say Democrats may pursue impeachment against Donald Trump, uh Schiff Dems may take up impeachment proceedings if it's in the best if it's the best thing for the country.
Waters enough information in the Mueller report to move forward with impeachment.
If we do nothing after Mueller report, Trump is going to be emboldened.
Another headline.
Um, and it gets on from there.
You know, there's a a conspiracy TV MSNBC panel debating over the weekend the strategy on impeachment.
It'd be a mistake to start the hearings right away, but we gotta do it.
You know, Joy Reed badgering a Democratic uh a Congressperson for not wanting to impeach Donald Trump.
Um this is who they have now become.
When is there ever somebody tell me an instance where they say, you know, maybe we can work with the president, secure our border, lower the prices of prescription drugs like we have been how many times have has Dr. Josh been on this program of Atlas MD and he gets his own negotiations with with drug companies at 95% discounts?
Um and concierge care for every American at price fifty bucks a month for adults.
It's unbelievable.
You walk out of the doctor's office with your prescription, and he's duplicated that nearly a thousand times.
When are they gonna talk about?
Oh, how can we be energy independent?
How you know how what do we do with the vast resources of energy?
Is there anything the Democrats are offering that helps forgotten men and women that were were so hurt during the Obama years?
Anyway, there is one Democrat with a lot of courage in all of this as a new piece in the hill today, Mark Penn is headline, Muller's done, Democrat should be too, Trump is no Nixon.
How much abuse do you get for saying what is so obvious that they're destroying the Democratic Party?
Well, you know, I get a a mix of everything.
I have had people write me, even from the Watergate era, thanking me.
So, you know, look, I know it's a controversial uh viewpoint, but I was in impeachment in the middle of it in ninety-eight, working with President Clinton, and I saw how destructive these things are to the country.
You want to have an election, have an election.
You want to have an impeachment, you sure can't have one on the basis of this report.
You know what's amazing, Mark, is and I said this in in terms of Bill Clinton and the difference between him and Obama.
And I felt like I was out there on a limb with the smallest twig hanging on a leaf from that was left from last fall and about to, you know, Duke Gingrich told me if I keep pushing so hard and vetting Obama that I'm probably gonna ruin my career that I can't stop, it's who I am.
And I concluded after Frank Marshall Davis, Olinski Acorn uh community organizer and Reverend Wright and Ayers and Dorn that Obama's gonna be a radical ideologue, and he was.
He never changed.
Bill Clinton, you know, after two years, Republicans take back Congress for the first time in 40, comes up with the era of big government is over and the end of welfare as we know it.
He governed conservatively as a Democrat from that point on, or at least moderate, moderately, working with Newt Gingrich to solve problems.
Well, yeah, I was part of that effort, right?
And we had welfare reform, we had a balanced budget.
We we had an immigration reform bill at the time.
Uh we we had a lot we did a lot of good.
We said, look, let's put the country first.
You know, but a lot of good listen, the last time we had a balanced budget was with Newton's speaker and and Clinton as president.
Yeah, that's true.
Look right and and Newt Newt and the president would pound at each other all day and they would go and negotiate all night.
And it worked.
And the country was better off.
Correct.
So you see the headlines, you see the new Green Deal, you hear impeachment impeachment.
You know, they're still pushing collusion for crying out loud, even though the Mueller report couldn't be any more clear.
What what does this do?
Who wins this battle if there even is a battle?
I mean, Stenny Hoyer's trying to pull back, even Pelosi tried a little, but then she gets hammered from her left flank.
I I would argue that the radicals have taken over the Democratic Party.
They win.
Well, look, Gingrich at the time went too far, and we gained seats in in ninety-eight.
And I think Democrats are on the path of going too far.
They're too far because the Mueller report showed no collusion.
And if it showed no collusion, how do you obstruct justice that wasn't gonna happen?
Then in fact, the injustice was the investigation itself.
And I've seen how frustrated presidents get when they're investigated for things they did do, let alone for things they didn't do.
You know, I love that whole thing on obstruction.
Well, he said that um uh I want to fire Mueller.
This is ridiculous.
This is a witch hunt.
He said it all publicly, or Rod Rosenstein is a bad guy, he needs to go.
Or um I hope General Flynn doesn't get in trouble.
He never took any steps and he had the authority himself to do all of that.
He would have legally he could have fired Mueller.
Right.
He actually had he had the constitutional authority to fire Mueller.
And what did he actually do with Mueller?
He turned over more documents than we ever would have.
Never invoked executive privilege one time.
Not once.
Not one time.
So he did the same thing.
He hit him during the day in the politics, and by night he cooperated fully, gave them full access.
And, you know, what did they find that sometimes he got frustrated?
Who wouldn't get frustrated?
But he didn't step over any lines.
He didn't shut down their investigation, he didn't pay hush money.
There was none of the things that was done like Nixon did.
This is this is absurd.
This is a president who was continually frustrated that an that an investigation that should never have happened was plaguing his presidency over something that didn't happen.
I mean, it's incredible when you think about it.
It's scary, actually.
Now, I can tell you my last interview with the president, he was very clear that he will declassify key Russia Gate documents.
And from all of my sources, and I worked a lot of sources in the two plus years this has been going on, I think you're pretty well aware this was uh a team effort.
This was not just Sean Hannity.
And we know that there's damning information in those FISA applications.
I'll quote the Grassley Graham memo, the the bulk of information in the FISA applications came from that Hillary Clinton paid for Russian dossier with lies, and it was also disseminated to the public, and we also know that the fix was in even Paige and Strck threw it right on the desk of Loretta Lynch that they rigged the investigation into Hillary's email server and obvious obstruction of justice.
Um when we get the gang of eight, those FISA applications, those five buckets that I always talk about, then there's going to be a new narrative in this country.
You're you're keenly aware of it as well.
And that's the abuse of power that took place and the effort to undermine a duly elected president.
Look, there were three things that that that you know that that caught my eye, right?
I mean, first, when it came out that that the dossier itself was really paid for through an Oppo research group that actually was in fact funded by the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
So anyone would have would have said, hey, why are we using the document?
It's not legitimate intelligence.
Second, anybody should just read it.
It's a joke when you read it.
It's a complete sham joke if if if you just read actually a document.
It's not a joke, though.
It's not a joke.
Right?
Which the Strick Page text which said, you know what?
The possibility of a conspiracy insight is real.
The stuff that you had on was real.
That there was more evidence for that than for the opposite.
And any objective journalist should have seen that.
You know, I I went on a tweet storm last night, and I I don't have access to any social media, haven't for a long time.
So I have to I have to ask my staff.
Uh I wrote it out and I sent it to them.
I said, could you send this out in a series of tweets?
And all the things that they didn't do, all the the you know, the fact that they tried to unseat a duly elected president, that there was an insurance policy for such, the fact that the news media was so wrong so often as we have pointed out, um, the fact that you know all of these things happen, and they get it wrong on Richard Jewell, Cambridge Police, UVA, Duke Lacrosse, Ferguson, Baltimore, vetting Obama, the Covington kids, uh, Kavanaugh, you know, I can go on forever.
And they never this is the biggest epic fail ever by the news media.
How does this fall out for them?
Well, it it ranks up there with weapons of mass destruction.
So it's a, you know, uh look, in fact, I don't understand how the media hasn't said, look, all of these connections with Russia, we didn't we only looked at at this campaign, we didn't look at everybody's connections.
We didn't look at at the Democrats connecting.
We looked at these connections and none of them led to anything that could remotely be called the collusion and and therefore the media should have, in effect, apologized.
And frankly, it's incredible that it went, you know, for any real observer of what Mueller was doing, he didn't have a single prosecution based on that.
He either has it on on Faro registration taxes or process crimes related to his own investigation.
Without even a single person indicted for obstruction or for collusion, how are you then gonna put this at the at the president's feet unless you think the president is a magician?
I think it's well said, all right, stay right there.
More with Mark Penn, the former pollster for the Clintons.
And as we continue, Mark Penn, former Clinton pollster is with us.
Democrat should be too, Trump is no Nixon.
Uh, but it's not gonna happen.
Now, what I imagine is gonna happen at some point based on some of the closed door testimony that we got, especially on the Clinton email investigation, and I don't know where you stand.
The evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.
She had top secret classified information on a private server.
The law is clear, 18 USC 793.
But Strzok and Paige referred to the fix being in on that investigation.
Also, that would be an underlying crime.
Then the if you want real obstruction, well, there was a real intent when you delete 33,000 subpoenaed emails, you bleach bit your hard drive to make it clean and it makes it unrecoverable, and have an aide bust up your devices in case there's any evidence on that.
So that would be intent.
Then you have the whole Pfizer abuse scandal, and then an attempt to undo a duly elected president.
Do you see all of these things now coming to light?
And isn't it in the country's best interest to get to the bottom of all of it?
Well, you know, someone who worked for the Clinton Sun, I stay away from commenting directly on people whom I respect and and and I feel did did a lot of good for the country.
I don't think let me ask you another way.
If you deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails.
You tried me to do that.
No, no, if you deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails, acid washed your hard drive with bleach bit, had an aid bust up your phones and blackberries.
Um do you think you'd be in trouble?
Well, let me put it this way.
You don't delete emails unless you really need to, especially if they're under congressional subpoena.
As a as a general rule.
I just don't think I'm gonna be nice and just let that pass, by the way.
Go ahead.
I don't think they're gonna go back to there.
I think the focus here is gonna be on the FBI, the CIA, the Obama administration, the the listening in, the unmasking, the trick that was done against against Flynn by by Sally Yates.
That was terrible.
That's where things are gonna center, and I think it is the most explosive scandal.
Really certainly in my lifetime in in American history.
You're on the right side of history.
It is the biggest abuse of power, corruption, scandal we've ever seen.
They tried to rig an election, they saved one candidate from indictment, then they tried to undo an election, and they knew what they were doing.
And unfortunately for those involved, there's the evidence that is coming that proves it all.
We already have a lot of it.
Uh Mark Penn, thank you.
Appreciate it.
And you can thank me later for pulling my for saying, okay, that's a good enough answer.
I understand.
All right, when we come back, news roundup information overload hour.
Uh we had the Sri Lanka sh uh bombings over the weekend, very scary.
Uh, and we have now what, 24 suspects in custody.
The attack appears to have been carried out by suicide bombers.
get an official update straight ahead What was supposed to be a joyful Easter Sunday was marred by a horrific wave of Islamic radical terror uh bloodshed.
It's heartbreaking that a country which has drives so hard for peace in recent years, uh, has been targeted by these terrorists.
Uh we mourn the loved ones of the victims, some of whom we can confirm were indeed U.S. citizens.
This is America's fight, too.
I spoke with the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka this morning and our embassy and other parts of the US government are offering all possible assistance to Americans and the Sri Lankan government alike.
We urge that any evildoers uh be brought to justice expeditiously in America's prepared to support that.
Uh we also stand with the millions of Sri Lankans who support the freedom of their fellow citizens to worship as they please.
We take confidence in knowing that not even atrocities like this one will deter them from respecting religious freedom.
Today our nation grieves with the people of Sri Lanka, and we stand uh committed, resolved to confront terrorism together.
All right, that's Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
Uh news roundup information overload hour.
Nearly three hundred people killed uh in the Sri Lanka attacks over the weekend.
And we know it started at 845 a.m.
This is Easter Sunday morning, bombs tearing apart three separate churches, three separate hotels.
There was another explosion at a housing complex.
U.S. embassy confirmed at least four U.S. citizens killed out of the nearly 300.
Sri Lankan uh police now have 24 suspects in compo uh custody.
Appears that they have carried out suicide bombs, but on top of that, uh, and the 24 people in custody, police said they discovered 87 detonators apparently abandoned at a private bus stand in the Capitol, and the government has ordered round the clock security at all churches.
Um we know no claim of responsibility, Wall Street Journal points out, and by the way, whenever you see multiple attacks, it has the fingerprint of Islamic militants.
Uh they point to Sri Lanka points to Islamic militants in this Easter bombing attack uh themselves, and we do have apparently some information that would support or suggest an international network is involved in this, And officials suggesting that there was some advanced knowledge of a terror plot in Sri Lanka that intelligence may have ignored.
Why I don't know.
Anyway, it is just devastating.
And yeah, this is our fight.
It's always going to be our fight, unfortunately for the entire world.
It's the U.S. that beats back fascism and communism and Nazism and Imperial Japan and now radical Islamists that want to kill innocent people.
We've seen it happen in this country too often.
3,000 people, 9-11.
We had many attacks warning us beforehand.
Yeah, the embassy bombings in Kenya, Tanzania, people forget about it.
The USS Cole, the first Trade Center bombing, all as a lead up to 9-11, 2001.
And remember the 911 report said they were at war with us.
We were not at war with them.
We didn't take it seriously enough.
Anyway, joining us Patrick Poole, he is the national security correspondent for PJ Media.
Matthew Hyman is with us, senior fellow associate director for global studies at the National Security Institute at George George Mason University's Antonin Scalia Law School.
Thank you both.
Patrick, let's start with the latest and what we know, as uh we're pretty convinced uh of who's responsible for this, but the number of church bombings around the globe, uh, especially Christian churches.
We had the the mosque incident in New Zealand, but the number of Christian churches is astronomical at this point.
Uh yeah, Sean, and in fact um uh and synagogues, I might add too.
Yeah.
Yeah, um because we have uh Orthodox Easter coming up uh this coming weekend.
They they follow a week behind uh this year, and uh the uh Coptic Orthodox uh in in Egypt, which is the largest uh population of Christians in the Middle East, uh half the Christians live in Egypt.
And uh just two years ago uh they suffered uh two suicide bombings at churches, including one targeting uh Pope Todros, the head of the Coptic Church on Palm Sunday.
Um so there's uh a lot of concern about uh something happened in Egypt or you know, in Syria, uh where's the the Eastern Orthodox churches um are coming up on Easter.
And and Sean, it uh it's remarkable how how horrific this bombing was, but it could have been worse because we found out that a six-foot pipe bomb uh had been discovered unexploded uh at the airport, and then this morning they were diffusing a a bomb inside a van parked outside a church in Colombo, and the bomb exploded as they were diffusing it, no one was injured.
Uh, but this could have been uh even more worse than what it is.
Well, that's even more chilling.
Yeah, I mean, the bus stop in in particular.
Uh Matthew, let's get your take on it.
Well, I I think this also points out um as you noted in your lead up to the story, Sean, the dysfunction that may well exist in the Sri Lankan government in terms of sharing intelligence and information between intelligence uh organizations, police organizations, and other security groups, uh, because as you noted, the news reports discuss uh this intelligence being available to those folks uh over a week ago, two weeks ago, and it doesn't look like much action was taken.
And so uh, you know, obviously a very unfortunate circumstance, uh, especially when you have this many deaths and and this many injuries as a result.
I think the other thing that comes out of the story is that uh they're given that they are pointing to this organization which is uh called National Trohid Jabat, which is uh apparently a local uh radical Islamist organization in Sri Lanka.
There's a strong sense that either Al-Qaeda or Islamic State must be connected to it because the scale and sophistication of these attacks is quite remarkable to pull off um you know multiple sites, uh coordinated attacks, um, you know, it takes a certain amount of organization and logistics.
But I know you've also been monitoring the attacks on on churches and synagogues around the world, and it seems like the exponentially now in the last year and a half or so, these attacks have gone way up.
Yeah, I think unfortunately we're in the cycle where houses of worship, whether you're talking about um the horrible attacks against the mosques in Christ Church New Zealand or the attacks against Christian and Catholic churches around the world.
Uh that seems to be uh the method of attack right now, and it's and it's uh it's a horrific circumstance.
Yeah.
And I know Patrick, you as well, you this is what you do.
You've been following it.
How how much has it grown?
Well uh yeah I mean we've seen these attacks uh during Christian holidays um going back to 2012 and Boko Haram in Nigeria when when the Obama administration told Congress that you know this this isn't uh religious inspired violence when they're bombing churches on Easter and we've seen it in Nigeria, Kenya, Pakistan, Egypt, Philippines, a whole series of these bombings.
And Sean one of the important things, and I'm sure that investigators um uh internationally, not just in Sri Lanka are looking at is that this group, this National Taheed Jamaat, uh also included, as we you and I've talked about uh previously, uh this group included ISIS guys who had returned from Syria.
Um and and in fact uh one of the guys was Avon Hashim uh who's been identified uh he had a face active Facebook book account where he was posting pro-ISIS literature literally for years which goes to the whole uh intelligence failure question uh uh which they're gonna have to answer.
Well, we all get that.
And I guess, you know, we've had this happen before.
But from my understanding is, you know, we have intelligence sharing again, even with countries maybe we weren't as closely aligned with over the years like we've never had before.
The sharing of intelligence.
Supposedly, we were to fix the intelligence in our country.
I still can't for the life of me, Patrick, understand 30 years of the ability of hackers to get into our government business.
it still happens that we haven't built a defense strong enough yet to prevent it that to me is a huge national security risk um but uh it it's it just sounds too much like 9-11.
It's like they're at war with us they're doing all these things and we're not or maybe it's just that we have to get it right every time and it's hard.
Well, one other thing that we've talked about previously are these long series of known wolf attacks.
I mean, in virtually all these international terrorism incidents, you see that law enforcement had most of these individuals on their radar beforehand.
And no one's really willing to address that issue, even here in the United States, that law enforcement gets this information and the ability to process it and to be able to accurately gauge the level of threat has just been consistently bad across the board.
the board.
Well and I I mean I guess Matthew you would think like for example we talk about the ISIS caliphate I mean all of that land that they had taken in Syria is gone.
It's they have been literally shoved into the ground and a lot of it took a lot of a lot of intelligence and a lot of bombs to take out those people that were responsible.
we went right back to the first town that they had captured, and we moved them out.
They're gone or dead.
And it seems worldwide these networks still keep popping up, or you have the lone wolf syndrome, but in this case, it seems like a lot of sophisticated plotting, scheming, and planning went on here.
Well, it certainly appears that way, and I think the way you just articulated what happened with the geography in Syria and in western Iraq is right, in the sense that the Islamic State doesn't control that geography, and the people that control it are either gone or they're dead.
Now, the people that are gone have either returned home or they are still in spider holes, hanging out, inspiring others to engage in these acts and creating networks that allow these acts to come to fruition.
And so that's the problem, is the ideology is still around.
There are people that still adhere to this view of the world and willing to support local organizations like the one in Sri Lanka in terms of pulling off these attacks, which means our intelligence functions have to be have to be as as as you noted almost perfect in terms of stopping every one of these and that's a tough task.
Well it's a very listen it's like you know after 9-11 we have to be right every time they obviously you know they just have to you know get that one chance you know uh Patrick go back to 9-11 and go back to post-9 eleven go back to I know we had a big debate in the country over uh enhanced interrogation t techniques.
People think everybody was waterboarded.
In fact, there were only three people.
One of them was Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.
And one of the great discoveries was that even though bin Laden is evil as he was, wasn't stupid.
And by that, we learned about the courier that he didn't use any internet.
He didn't use any computers of any kind.
That he compute he communicated only through that courier.
We got to the courier, we found Bin Laden.
Well, uh Sean, going back even further to the Afghan jihad, where you had the so-called Arab Afghans showing up.
Uh, and after the conflict, they ended up basically creating the international network we now know as Al Qaeda.
Well, I I think we're going to see the same function now with the demise of um of ISIS in Syria in Iraq, is that a lot of these guys uh uh have just kind of spread out all over.
We we have ISIS guys that the FBI knows about who are already back in the United States.
Same thing in Canada.
Um, you know, and and a lot of Western countries are grappling with how do we handle these guys?
Because you in a lot of cases you don't have the evidence uh to be able to convict them in court.
What do you do?
And you know, there's uh in fact, there was a report uh in the Sunday Times yesterday in the UK uh where they've discovered information about guys who were ISIS guys who are moving people in and out of uh Europe.
Uh so this is going to be an ongoing problem, and these places of worship are going to continue to be uh perceived by ISIS as targets of opportunity.
Um, and you know, it it's it's gonna be a serious ongoing problem.
Well, that I agree with.
Stay right there, um, and we'll uh wrap things up and what the what we think the likely outcome is in all of this and whether we're gonna get to the bottom of this coordination, terrible attacks, nearly 300 killed over the weekend, church bombings, hotel bombings in Sri Lanka.
Uh more with Patrick Poole and Matthew Hyman as we continue on the other side, then we'll get your calls in at the bottom of the half hour.
All right, wrapping things up.
The Sri Lanka attacks, nearly 300 uh murdered over the weekend, 24 suspects in custody now, appears to be carried out uh by a network of uh can I say suicide bombers, Patrick?
Is that the right way to classify that?
Uh that's what we understand from the current reporting, yes.
Yeah.
And Matthew, the best way to stop this is in the few seconds we have left.
Uh, I think it's effective information sharing.
So uh the the as I said, the news reports show a breakdown in information sharing within the Sri Lankan government.
The best way to stop it is to have effective information sharing that's not stovepiped, and also good information sharing from country to country.
All right, thank you both for being with us.
Our thoughts and prayers for the people of Sri Lanka, and it is everything that's been happening.
We bet we better keep our eye on the ball here.
Don't think it can't happen again, because it can.
It's very scary.
These are very evil people that have bought into the a very sick evil ideology.
And I watched too much of the history channel to realize uh we'd be foolish to think evil in mass form with mass death can't, you know, spring up its ugly side again.
All right, when we come back, uh wide open phones 800-941 Sean, as our news roundup information overload hour continues.
We're actually making the Green New Deal come alive here in New York City.
So we have our own Green New Deal.
It's three very basic ideas.
One, uh, the biggest source of emissions in New York City is buildings.
We're putting clear, strong mandates, the first of any major city on the earth to say to building owners, you gotta clean up your act, you gotta retrofit, you gotta save energy.
If you don't do it by 2030, there'll be serious fines as high as a million dollars or more for the biggest buildings.
And this mandate is going to guarantee that we reduce emissions.
We're going to ban uh the classic glass and steel skyscrapers, which are incredibly inefficient.
If someone wants to build one of those things, they can take a whole lot of steps to make it energy efficient, but we're not gonna allow what we used to see in the past.
Uh, and the city of New York, the government, which uses about as much energy in uh a year as do the people and the businesses of the state of Vermont, we are gonna get all of our energy from renewable sources in the next five years.
I'm here At the cafeteria of PS 130 in Brooklyn with these amazing kids.
And I was spending time with fourth graders, seventh graders.
They are passionate about wanting to make sure they are healthy and the earth is healthy.
They believe in meatless Mondays.
And I want you to know why we're going to do it for the whole school system because we need our kids to be healthy, have a more balanced diet, more vegetables, more fruits, more meatless options.
Good for everyone, good for the earth too.
We know that we're gonna have to do a lot to fight vote in the morning.
That was looking at how our food is produced, and choosing some other options, striking a better balance.
That's what this is all about.
I gotta tell you, when you're talking to a 10-year-old, and they know this is good for their body and good for the earth.
That foods are going in the right direction.
There's a lot of enthusiasm.
Kids told me that the food tastes better.
Now that they have these meatless options, you're getting a lot of great tasting food that they're excited to eat.
They don't want to throw away our pass by.
They actually want to eat their lunch.
And as a parent, that is music to my ears.
Always want our kids to eat their veggies.
Now they're actually doing it.
Enjoy.
But I also do need to ask.
Uh, you live on the Upper East Side in Gracie Mansion.
Uh, most days or several days a week, a city uh SUV drives you 11 miles to a gym in Brooklyn as opposed to one that's close to where you currently reside.
Uh, what sort of environmentally responsible example are you setting there?
Taking this drive in a car as opposed to going someplace nearby.
So the example we're setting first and foremost, let's let's look at this exact question before us.
The plans we have put forward, we're acting on will reduce emissions 30% in all of New York City by 2030.
That's where we make huge change.
So the question you ask: look, wherever I go in New York City, whether I take a subway, whether I go nearby or farther away to another borough, uh, I have a security detail that follows me in their cars, either way.
So let's be clear.
This is just part of my life.
I I come from that neighborhood in Brooklyn.
Uh, that's my home.
I go there on a regular basis to stay connected to where I come from and not be in the bubble that I think for a lot of politicians is a huge problem.
All right, there it is.
Comrade Bill de Blasio.
I uh you know, Bob Grant ruled the talk radio airways in New York for years.
You know, I I it's sick and it's getting sicker.
I I gotta get out of here.
I gotta get out of here.
It's nuts.
I honestly, this is not I actually Linda's laughing.
I heard Stern this weekend saying the same thing.
I got her attire.
I gotta you know, he's probably doing another negotiation, but whatever.
It's like New York is lost it.
We're gonna retrofit every big building and eliminate glass and steel skyscrapers.
Well, what are we gonna make it out of?
Timber?
That's not gonna be acceptable either.
Plastics, not acceptable.
What are we gonna make it out of?
You know, toothpicks?
No, that comes from a tree, also.
The biodegradable steel, good luck with that.
I mean, they've lost their minds.
We're gonna be completely renewable.
By wait, what are we gonna do with the freedom tower that it took them forever to fix and rebuild after the trade centers went down?
You know, I mean, it is we're gonna retrofit every home in America in 10 years.
We're gonna ban oil and gas.
The lifeblood of the world's economy.
We are sitting on more energy that we could be the richest country.
Every single American can benefit.
On the face of this earth, and now 10 years we're gonna eliminate that.
It's then we're gonna make everything free.
We'll retrofit every home, every building in America.
But you can't use oil or gas.
You know, every combustion engine gone.
You know, but we'll have charging stations installed all throughout the country.
And then we're gonna get rid of cows.
The cows and their flatulence are ruining the ozone layer and contributing to global warming and climate change and airplanes, they're gone too.
Basically, I guess you go to Europe, just pull a.
I could see Linda pulling out her sailboat, you know.
The tiny ship was rough.
I'm so privileged.
I got a I got a sailboat?
Fantastic.
Well, I mean, that's how else are you gonna get there?
Are you gonna have electrical?
Does she dance on it?
Oh man, do you know how many people commented about our discussion on Friday?
That was Yeah, did they all say what a weirdo you were that you don't like to dance?
No, everybody, no, everybody agreed with me.
If you missed that story, we were in Helsinki, and anyway, so I take my whole team out, and I was hanging out with my brother-in-laws and Blair, and I remember Sweet Baby James was like me.
We're watching all of a sudden in the middle of Linda's little dance routine with with her friends, and they're all girls.
And I'm watching this guy literally maneuver right into the middle of it and start like grinding against strangers.
And I'm I'm fit to be tied.
So I just walked over and whispered a little something in his ear, and you know, that was it.
He went in the corner where he belonged.
But I thought it was so strange that some stranger feels that they have the right to invade your space that way.
And every guy agreed with me.
And you're the only one that's on the wrong side of this.
Sweet baby James was like ready to kill.
Right?
Sweet baby James, right?
Yes, true.
It's true.
We're looking at Blair was aghast at that.
First of all, you and Blair can't dance to save your life.
So the only thing you were aghast at was the fact that you weren't able to shake it like he could.
Like who could listen?
This little We actually called we had a name for him.
While you're dancing, you just see the name smelled really bad.
That's even more reason.
Smelly weirdo.
He came close.
You're like, no, no, he's like great.
Listen, he's trying to make physical contact with all of you, and I'm like, this is gonna end badly here.
Back up, you creep exactly get away from me.
It even make creepy Joe Biden look less creepy.
It was so creepy.
Crazy, creepy Uncle Joe.
No, everybody agreed with me.
You want me to do another test?
Steve and San Diego.
Who do you agree with?
Does some guy have the right to just throw himself in the middle of a group of dancing girls at a club?
No, right?
I agree with I always agree with you, Sean.
Thank you, Steve.
Stay right there.
Jimmy in Brooklyn, what do you think?
I think we're in big trouble.
I think this attack on Trump, he's they're trying to topple Trump.
Do you realize in Trump's first presidency, the Democrats?
I think I think Jimmy missed the question.
Maybe.
We're gonna get back to you, Jimmy.
I was giving him a little space there.
Just Nancy in California.
What do you think, Nancy?
Ah, I think that pretty soon we're gonna live in a nation of single people.
Well said, Nancy.
Well, wait a minute.
I mean She's right.
I mean, right, what's a man supposed to do?
A man can't tell you he looks you look pretty.
A man can't be.
How about saying, do you mind if I if I dance with your group?
Instead of just going in and making physical contact.
His wiggle, his wiggle insinuated a desire to dance together.
Okay.
Okay, you're free.
Nancy, seriously, you're buying into this?
Some stranger.
I mean, kind of sorta.
Like he was like a 50-year-old guy, you know, with his shirt hands.
He thought he was thought it was John Travolta and Saturday night before.
No, he was not 50.
Yes, he was.
No, he was at least 50.
He's a short guy that's stunk.
He was not short either.
You mean Nancy, if you're on a dance floor and some creep comes up to you and starts, you know, grinding on you, you don't be you're not that's not gonna piss you off.
You don't think that's an invasion of your space?
Oh, no, no.
If he grinds on me, he will be facing the floor.
Thank you.
Oh, and Nancy, you were you would be able to handle that, right?
Oh, for sure.
See, clearly, you and your your friends were not able to handle it.
Your sister-in-law, I think was at was she there?
No, because she wasn't there.
It was just a group of us that were all on the road for the trip.
But the bottom line is this if a tall strapping, good-looking, somewhat smelly man comes over and he says, Hey, I want to dance with you, and he does so in a more physical way as opposed to a more verbal way.
It just means that he's challenged and his abilities to vocalize his desires.
From my perspective, you know, I made a mistake.
It was a restaurant that had a club upstairs.
So I'm I'm not into going to clubs, but I was acting like, you know, I I like to, you know, for example, whenever we're out to dinner, I'd like to go walk around and pour the wine every wine and make sure everybody's happy.
Do I not do that at every dinner we have?
Yes, you're very good service.
Yeah.
So I I want everyone because everyone works so hard, especially, you know, we're in Helsinki, Vietnam the last day with that.
We were there.
I took all the crew out.
We had a great time.
And but this one had a club, so you guys were like, oh, let's go upstairs.
So I go up and I'm hanging out maybe 20 minutes.
That's it.
And I'm like watching this, and I'm like, I gotta get me and James and Blair like, oh, this is awful.
We wanted to get out of there.
And you know, we just then this happens.
Then I feel like I can't wait until you people are ready to leave because I feel a sense of responsibility.
We're not even hardly in there because you guys were all standing outside on the balcony anyway.
Well, I kept going out on the balcony, and every time I came back, Creepo was working his way back into the circle.
I call him wiggles, but what I hope Crepo listens to this show.
It would be so great to get a call from Helsinki.
There's a there's a huge summit going on in Helsinki, and I got the top fold of the biggest paper in the country.
That was amazing.
That actually was very nice, though.
No, I don't want to tell that story.
It's uh seems self-serving.
But anyway, we did get the top fold of the local news of Helsinki's newspaper, a record, like the New York Times fake news.
Except this wasn't fake.
Um that shows how desperate they were for news there.
All right, let me get to the phones here.
Uh Steve San Diego, Steve, how are you, sir?
Glad you called.
Thanks for waiting.
I'm doing great, Sean.
Hey, I appreciate you taking my call.
Um if I may that there's two things that really bug me.
Uh, one is that uh you know that Hillary was briefed by the State Department on how to handle class information.
And she made a conscious decision to circumvent the laws.
I mean, if that is not intent, I don't know what is.
She actually sent out a note to her entire State Department staff warning people not to do the very thing she was doing.
And everybody in her close circle knew about it because they were all emailing that, including as we later found out, even a high-ranking government official that turned out to be uh Barack Hussein Obama.
Right.
Yeah, and then if I may, my other thing is now that the adults are in charge, um interference of elections, i.e., Lois Larger.
I mean the only accountability is when a Republican is in charge.
I mean, that's the only people that ever get fired, only people that did anything.
And if we're gonna get a handle on the politization of government, we have to do it and we gotta do it now.
Otherwise, we're lost.
If we don't get this right, I'm telling you, we're gonna lose the country.
You can't have this happen again.
You cannot have a dual justice system.
You cannot have unequal application of our laws.
We if we listen, if we believe in equal justice, you can't have unequal justice.
There's only one way to solve this problem.
Those that were responsible for the rigged investigation, those that were responsible for committing a fraud to the Pfizer courts, those that were involved in trying to weaponize intelligence and unmasking and leaking those that were responsible for all of these attacks against a duly elected president for political purposes because they thought they knew better than we the people.
They've got to be held responsible.
Uh Nancy, California, how are you?
Hi, I'm doing great, thank you.
I'm so pumped to be able to get to talk to Sean Hannity.
I can't believe it.
Oh, thank you.
I'm glad you called.
You're amazing.
Um I just want to say that I am absolutely disgusted that these Democrats have not said a word to condemn this attack that we had.
And it's just an American.
It's unbelievable.
Listen, there is it's it's this is real.
I'm not making this up.
There is an unhinged rage that is now a psychosis that has taken over the Democrats and the liberal media.
They're not gonna stop.
I wish they were.
They're not going to.
You know, interesting in the break.
I just saw this at Media.
Um, a letter sent to Congressional Democrats today.
Nancy Pelosi says she agrees Trump has engaged in unethical and unscrupulous behavior, made repeated efforts to thwart cooperation, and that uh the matter of indictment is an open-ended question.
No, it's not, Nancy.
Anyway, however, she then tells her colleagues that holding Trump accountable and performing congressional oversight and on his actions is possible outside of impeachment hearings.
While our views range from proceeding to investigate the findings to the Mueller report or proceeding directly to impeachment, we all firmly agree that we should proceed down a path of finding the truth.
It's Also important to know that the facts regarding holding a president accountable can be gained outside of impeachment hearings.
And as we proceed to uncover the truth and present additional needed reforms to protect our democracy, we must show the American people we're proceeding free from passion or prejudice, strictly on the presentation of fact.
Uh-huh.
She's scared.
All right, Hannity tonight, nine Eastern.
We got a great show on the Fox News channel.
Alan Dershowicz, Joe Concer, uh John Solomon, Lindsey Graham, Nuke Gingrich, Piers Morgan.
