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Let me explain in detail why I am not at all worried about what is a garbage, typical swamp sewer compromise, whatever you want to call this bill, uh that the we've had or we've had people on both sides in the negotiating room, and we believe we have come to a conclusion.
Yeah, that it never gets the job done.
Okay, fine.
Um we're gonna get to that in detail.
We've got huge developments, including uh Devin Nunes indicating that criminal referrals on FISA abuses are now soon to be coming.
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Uh, we have new information, thanks to I believe Judicial Watch documents that the FBI was negotiating negotiating with the State Department to change classified status of Hillary's emails.
Uh, you don't get to do that after the fact.
And more indications of a crime.
We got more people running for president that will tell you about the 2020 list, keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
Um, and of course, the Senate Intel Committee saying, no, we found no evidence of collusion and we saw everything.
It's um it's unbelievable.
John Dowd, I'll play it later in the program.
The president's former lawyer, he just was like apoplectic, doesn't even think Mueller will even come out with a report and thinks the whole thing was a colossal waste of time and money and energy and an unprecedented attack on the executive branch, which I agree with.
Um also have more on the new radical extremist uh democratic socialist party, and they're just losing it day by day.
And that's actually part of it.
I told you this would become entertaining at some point, while we're kind of getting to that point.
Um, let me begin with this deal.
Let me tell you what this I guess so-called compromise is all about.
Now, it is interesting on the one hand because Democrats were arguing funding deal is not everything the president hoped, but a good step, said Mitch McConnell.
Yeah, whatever.
Uh, but let's start with, you know, they were arguing this is immoral.
That building a wall is immoral.
But yet they just negotiated a 1.35 billion dollar quote compromise deal that's for border security.
So that they will they're willing to They're willing to be immoral at a price, 1.35 million.
Billion, rather.
Um, anyway, so this all starts getting announced as I'm going on the air last night, and I I know literally ad-libbing it in my opening monologue, and and then the president, of course, uh in El Paso.
And so what they announced is they reached the deal, it avoids a government shutdown.
The deal, which I never care about.
I care for the furlough employees.
It becomes a hardship for some of them.
Obviously, Democrats claim to care about furloughed employees, just like they claim to care about DACA and Dreamers, but they wouldn't even sit down at the table.
They obviously, their hatred of Donald Trump uh surpasses any desire to do anything good for the country, which is sad.
Anyway, the details, Washington Post 1.3 billion in border wall funding.
President, you recall, requested 5.7 billion.
Uh the funding is set to provide 55 miles of new border wall uh along the roughly 2,000 mile-long southern border.
A lot of this I understand is going to be used in the Rio Grande sector, and which needs it desperately, and I'll tell you why, because literally you can walk across that body of water, it'll take you less than a minute, and you go from Mexico into the United States.
You're right there.
And there's nothing to stop you, except for border patrol agents.
And the most insane thing that I heard was the desire of Democrats to limit the beds for immigrant detention facilities, you know, and I'm thinking, well, what if we have more illegals entering the country and criminal the criminal element of all of this?
You know, the sad part here is we now know that the Democratic Party is willing to play politics on what is a life and death safety and security issue for the American people just so they can st uh oppose Trump.
Now they hate Trump more than they care about the 90% of heroin that gets into this country comes through the southern border.
They hate Trump more than the human human trafficking that's going on at our southern border.
I interviewed a guy 13 years, border agent, border patrol agent.
He worked almost exclusively in the human trafficking aspect of this.
And he talks about young girls from Central America, Mexico, trafficked into the United States, raped 30 to 40 times a day as they follow them.
These I mean, it's unbelievable.
I thought Democrats had human compassion, or the cartels, etc.
All of these issues that we bring up are important, but they don't seem to care because they just want to get back at Donald Trump because they don't like Donald Trump.
And for them, that's what it has come down to.
And but the more important aspect of this is what's right for the country, what's right for the American people, and what is in the best interest of our safety and our security as a country.
Because if we put that first, then we've got to secure the southern border.
Stop the cartels, stop the gang members, stop all these people that want to bring harm to Americans.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's I'm saying repeatedly, it's only two percent of the population that come into this country illegally.
The other ninety-eight, I will firmly admit, just want a better life for themselves and their families, and we're just asking that they do it legally.
Anyway, the conference committee was formed after the president reopened the federal government, and as usual, government has failed to do its job adequately because this is the state of the radical Democratic Party.
And and rightly so.
Jim Jordan, who's gonna join us later, Mark Meadows, he's gonna join us later.
You know, they said, well, the president was giving a great speech in El Paso, Congress was putting together a bad deal on immigration.
And Jordan tweeted, retweeted by Florida Congressman, also Freedom Caucus member Matt Gates, House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows laid out his specific issues with the tentative deal and said this conference agreement is hardly a serious attempt to secure our border or stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
It kicks the can down the road yet again, failing to address the critical priorities outlined by the border patrol chiefs, and specifically we're talking about the some 60 of them that uh went and met with the president yesterday.
Now, here's where I'm gonna go out on a limb and give you my best thoughts.
Now, if you remember, there was a point, even during the primaries, remember there were 17 Republicans that started out in those primaries.
And I tried to be fair to everyone that got into the race, went to where they were, put them on TV, put them on radio, offered people, you know, at one point, you know, I some people said, Well, you're putting Donald Trump on too much.
I said, because your team doesn't want the time.
We call we we called and offered equal time.
Just to try to be fair.
I don't like to get in the middle of primaries.
Anyway, it became clear when he won Indiana, he was going to be the nominee.
And there was a long period of time where I have known Donald Trump.
I've known him for over a couple of decades.
He has he has a couple of characteristics that I I've never seen as strong in any one individual.
One is the guy is absolutely fearless.
Two is he's he's the opposite of a politician.
You know, he can take all the stress and all the fighting 24 7, and it does not bother him.
You know, if it could be the middle of whatever, you know, hysterical reporting is going on, and I'm telling you, it doesn't phase him.
Now he's gonna go out and fight back because that's his nature.
But it's sort of like a blessing in his curse.
We can't ask him to go fight for better trade deals and and better negotiations with other countries on uh issues of who's gonna pay what for NATO and uh sit with little Rocket Man and get a good deal.
Everything's a negotiation with him.
You know, I'd talk to him during the campaign, and I'd say, Hey, listen, I need you uh, you know, we're gonna do an interview.
Uh and he'd go, well, how long?
And I'd say, well, let's do 30 minutes.
And he'll say, I'll give you 10.
I said, no, how about we do, how about we do all right, 25.
All right, I'll give you 15.
And I really wanted 20.
And he really was only going to be doing 20.
So, you know, but everything is like a negotiation.
So he gets the nomination, and many of my fellow conservative brethren doubted his conservative credentials.
And by the way, not through any fault of their own.
He grew up in New York.
You know, he was apolitical in the sense that uh he would donate to both parties, wanted a good relationship with everybody.
And people would look at that or look at the fact that earlier in his life he was pro-choice, and later in his life, explained the example when he became pro-life.
And I was I put my nose out there and I said, I guarantee you he is the conservative he says he is that will keep his promises.
And I think I have proven to be right again and again about Donald Trump.
You know, look at the Supreme Court appointments that he's made.
Look at the tax cut that he's given us, look at the endless, you know, the bureaucratic cuts that he's given.
And I know some people were mad when he reopened the government, but he was winning on the issue.
Look at after the State of the Union speech, CBS polls show 72% of the country agrees with his immigration policies.
80% of independents agree with it.
80% of independents give him high ratings.
He's now got the highest approval rating ever.
So I just know that how tenacious he is, and just as I said at the time when he opened the government, I said, just because he changed strategies doesn't mean he's he's given up on the issue because he hasn't.
Now, here's what the president said, and this is what I'm gleaning from it.
He literally said today what I said last night on the TV show.
This is a garbage bill.
He said he's not happy with this package, hammered out by congressional negotiators, but pledged that if he accepted this inadequate offer, he would quote, add whatever I have to add to his border wall.
Now, some of you may not believe that promise.
Some of you may have your doubts.
Here's how I interpret it.
So the president will get a down payment if he goes along with this agreement of 1.35 billion.
He also has another 900 million accessible to him in monies that have been saved that is available to go to the wall.
And this is for the fiscal year 2019, which ends October one.
And then when he says, I'll add what I have to add, my prediction is that means he'll declare a national emergency.
And I think what he's gonna do, he's gonna take the 1.35, the 900 million, and he's immediately gonna allocate it to the wall and start and continue building because they have been building with the money they got last year and the year before.
And then I think the president will declare the national emergency, but he got a down payment now of 2.3 billion dollars.
So for the six months that it might take to fight in court as the Democrats go judge shopping in California and it gets to the ninth circuit, and we lose the first two rounds.
But I would argue that this is not a case that the Supreme Court could reject outright because it involves presidential powers, constitutional authority, and I would think that expeditiously they'd have to rule on this.
And I if they follow the law, which I can read to you and when we get back, the president wins hands down.
Now, to me, that actually works out fine.
But if he has to declare the national emergency for that to work.
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Some of you say, well, the president could just veto the bill and tell him to go back to the drawing board and come up with more money, but...
But what are the odds that they're going to do that?
And let's be honest and realistic here.
If they think walls are immoral, what what is what are the odds that they will be reasonable?
This new radical extreme Democratic Socialist Party, they don't have it within them to be reasonable, responsible, and really we're just wasting time.
And if the president, again, if he gets 1.35 billion as a down payment on top of the money he got last year, which is being used even now, the 900 extra million dollars, that's also available now.
And, you know, now we're talking about you know, at least 60, uh maybe like 80 miles of fencing that can go up in critical areas.
Uh we're working while the president then declares a national emergency, or to use his words, I will add whatever I have to add.
Well, he's telegraphing that he's serious about invoking the powers that are available to him as commander in chief, and that would be 10 USC 284, which I read on the air yesterday, and that is that you know,
for the purposes that department agencies, federal government, state, local, tribal law enforcement agencies, grants the president the power to construct roads, fences, installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States.
It's very clear, and that's why, you know, so in the interim, while the fight is going on, now if he vetoes the bill, maybe they figure out he's gonna declare a national emergency, then the government is shut down again, and he's gonna get blamed for it.
And in the meantime, we're wasting valuable time.
So I would think the president is telegraphing.
I will add whatever I have to add, and I'm speculating.
I don't know.
I don't have any insider knowledge as the press always seems to think I do.
But in that case, he wins big time.
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That is not a band.
It's generic.
It's it's general generic jumping jack flash.
Is that what that is?
Yes, some of the songs may sound like stuff you've heard.
But it really isn't.
So it's musak to get around the rules because he's exactly and then the apparently you're not allowed to play a lot.
30 seconds.
That's it.
Only play 30 seconds of a song or what?
They charge you?
Like an insane amount of money.
You have to pay royalties.
Yeah.
Like serious royalties.
Oh, yeah.
Like big, big, big time.
Like we had to get permission to do our Zack Brown band and uh Florida Georgia Line and Big and Rich.
Big and Rich and Charlie Daniels Friday concert series.
And they were all happy to that we were playing their music.
Now they'd want to charge people for playing their music.
That's hilarious.
I remember Bruce Hornsby once when I played the way it is.
You got 30 seconds of that, the start of that song.
So Bruce Hornsby once whined and complained that I played his music.
I always liked it.
That was his best album.
And he was actually a really talented pianist and and um songwriter, and even played with the dead.
The Grateful Dead for a period of time.
I don't get why people, musicians, would not want people to hear their music, even if they're Yeah, but he was smart though.
This is what he said is yeah, I know.
I've heard it.
People tell me all the time, Hannity uses my music.
I really don't want to get into a fight with the guy, though.
That's what he said.
Which was pretty smart on his part.
No, we've stopped using it.
But it's that particular lady's eyes.
Just for funny sis.
Get a job.
Great song.
Very liberal in its lyrics.
Play the beginning of it, the piano part of it when it starts out, because that's a really good part.
Bruce Hornsby in the range.
From the way it is.
He's gonna hear about this.
We go over 30 seconds, we're dead.
Here comes the cease and desist.
Yeah.
All right.
Now listen to this as the music comes in.
He's got another great song called Mandolin Rain on this album.
And every song on that album is actually really good.
Right?
That is a very cool song.
You hear that?
Bruce Hornsby is a very cool song.
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You know, everyone, you know, everyone's so uptight about everything these days.
I'm like, okay, do we have to talk like for the Super Bowl, for example.
Or football.
I can't.
I don't want to watch football if I'm gonna watch guys taking a knee while the national anthem is being sung.
This year, oh, who did the yeah?
We had these um two young performers who are amazing, and I think they did America the Beautiful, if my mind is working.
Yeah, Coley and Halley, Chloe and Halley, and then who did the national uh there it was Gladys.
Oh, Gladys Knight.
It was amazing, wasn't it?
It was so good.
I think one of the best renditions I've ever heard.
Even better than Roseanne's.
Definitely better than the uh halftime show.
I I was I was half watching it, I didn't care.
You know, I'm like, really?
Maroon 5 taking off your shirt.
Oh, a guy looked pretty fit.
But, you know, if I went up there and did it, even though I work out five days a week, it's not gonna be a pretty sight, and I don't have those tattoos to cover up that, you know, literally shining Irish skin.
You know, it would glow it would glow in the dark in that arena.
And so it's beautiful.
What a voice.
No lip syncing here.
What's so crazy we better watch the 30-second clock?
Lights last gleaming Whose broad stripes and bright stars I mean, somebody that can sing like that, that is like a gift from heaven.
I don't think you can teach somebody to sing like that.
It's just.
And if I could, I'd come back and I'd want to be a singer.
Love that.
Rascal Flats, my buddies Big and Rich and Garth Brooks and Kenny Chesney and all those guys.
I think it's pretty cool if you get to sing in front of 80,000 people in these big stadiums like they fill all the time.
Zach Brown was at what, Chase Stadium?
It was great.
City field now.
Remember Billy Joel closed down the former Shea Stadium?
Billy Joel has now a permanent home at Madison Square Garden.
And I know I think he does do other gigs, but he just does Madison Square Garden.
He could sell out every single solitary night at Madison Square Garden.
And he loves, it's like his home.
It's like, all right, I'm going on next, I'll do two a month or one a month.
Oh, I'll do three this month, whatever.
Sold out in minutes.
Puts on one of the best shows.
He's more down to earth than all of these other stars.
And you think of that, that he sells out all this stuff at Madison Square Garden in a snap.
So not far from where I live, he actually has a motorcycle shop.
And I've talked to him.
One day I said, Yeah, I was gonna get a Harley, but it was either the Harley or the House.
You know, I'd have no, I'd be homeless.
I can sleep on my Harley, right?
And he goes, no, no, they're garbage.
Don't get a Harley.
I'm like, no, I gotta get a Harley.
Well, you had a Vespa.
Oh, stop it.
Really?
Do we have to?
That's a traumatic moment in my life.
And everybody was trying to be so nice and accommodating to me.
Um, but you know, it's just a dream that I had.
And everyone says the same.
You're gonna kill yourself.
Hey, what do you have?
You must have a death wish.
You know what they call it?
A donor cycle.
I have surgeon friends, doctor friends, they call it donor cycles.
I'm like, guys, I just want to write it on a Sunday morning.
Uh, you know, take it to the beach, watch the sunrise, right?
Don't even take it on the highway, ride home slowly, no traffic.
That's all I want to do.
Not that big, I'm not I'm not gonna join Hell Hell's Angels or anything.
Not that they would have me.
It's not that I survived the even with my my new ninja skills after six and a half years of training.
All right, so oh there was one instance.
So let me go back to the border deal.
It's a horrible bill.
Anyone that tells you otherwise, they don't know what they're talking about.
It's a horrible bill.
Do I think the president may sign it to keep the government open and get a down payment of 1.35 billion on the wall, added to the 900 million that we know he has accessible to him.
And yeah, but you know, I think this president's pretty transparent when he says I will add whatever I have to add.
To me, he's telegraphing, yeah, but I'm gonna declare a national emergency.
And to me, that strategy would be smart in this sense because then he has 2.3 billion on top of the money that he still has from this year remaining.
And that means the wall keeps being built as the Democrats go j judge shopping out in California, Oregon, wherever they go, that will end up in the Ninth Circuit.
Ninth Circuit doesn't follow the rule of law.
They write their own laws.
That's why they go judge shopping there.
And then I would think because of the nature of a national emergency and him being the commander-in-chief, you know, this is about separation of powers, his duty and responsibilities as commander in chief, and USC 284 and the provisions that we've gone over in great detail.
I think the president wins in the Supreme Court if they follow the law.
All right.
Now we have some other things, deep state news that I want to get to as well here, and some of the prejudice of the Socialist Democrats and how extreme they've gotten.
All right, so we know that Devin Nunes is going to be on tonight.
Dems are now saying they don't have evidence of collusion.
Well, then why are there these endless investigations?
We have to go back.
I promise you, at some point, I am going to go back and flag every insane hysterical moment of reporting and every proclamation by the likes of Shifty Shift, a liar, and all these other people.
Because if Senate Democrats are saying they don't have evidence of collusion, and the Senate intelligence community saying as much, you know.
Um, but you know, we got to see what their report also says.
And then we've got John Dowd on a tear.
I'll play it later in the program.
I mean, literally saying that the Mueller report is not going to show the public anything other than what they've done already.
And he says he doesn't respect Mueller's investigation.
I thought we were done in March of 2018.
He was afraid that the president would be forced into a perjury trap.
He said he doesn't have respect for Rod Rosenstein.
Remember, he he's in this case up to his eyeballs, had no business.
Talk about conflicted out.
Well, he's the one that recommended the firing of Comey, number one, and he signed the fourth and final FISA warrant application, the third renewal.
And he said, you know, I don't know what Sessions was doing.
And then Dowd said Muller's investigation was a waste of time, one of the greatest frauds this country has ever seen.
But there really was collusion, which they ignored, and that's the Democratic Party.
Now, with the Senate now saying they have no evidence of any conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia.
Now Devin Nunes is coming on tonight, and he now says that a cadre of House Intelligence Committee Republicans are now involved in sifting through more than a dozen transcripts as they are now planning on making criminal referrals for an investigation into the alleged political bias into the FBI.
And he further goes on that the work comprised by himself and Bob Goodlatt, Trey Gowdy.
We will be continuing our task force.
And he said in an interview that we are now combing through the transcripts.
We'll comb through and we'll be sending those recommendations to the Department of Justice, which they've got to investigate when the timing is appropriate, and they're still going to interview people.
Now he's also talking about, you know, there's another story out today where a new batch of X uh uh FBI documents were obtained by Judicial Watch, and it shows top FBI officials offered to lie about the classified nature of email sent to and from Hillary Clinton, which was discovered on Anthony Wiener's laptop just days before the election.
So they just got a new trove of documents turned over by the FBI, including discussions with former FBI lawyer to the deputy director, McCabe, Lisa Page is back concerning a potential quid pro quo between the State Department and the FBI,
in which the FBI would agree to downgrade on Hillary's behalf the classification level of a Clinton email exchange for more legal attache positions that would benefit the agency abroad.
Wow.
No indication that it ever took place.
However, the documents reveal that Peter Strzok, Paige's boyfriend, lied about the classified nature of Hillary's emails and that he discovered on Anthony Wiener's laptop just before the 2016 election.
Fox News reports many of the emails found on the computer were between Clinton and her senior advisor, Uma Abedin, who said she didn't know she had a private server.
Lie.
When is she going to get the pre-dawn raid?
Now Strange Wife.
Wiener's a strange wife.
Despite claims by top FBI officials, including Strzok, several of several of those emails were determined to contain classified information.
Well, that means, too, that yeah, Hillary broke the law and violated the Espionage Act.
One email, November 6, 2016, before the election, Strzok wrote the FBI's leadership, redacted, John and I completed our review of the potential Hillary Clo Rodham Clinton work emails on Wiener's laptop.
We found no previously unknown potentially classified emails on the media.
Strzok added that his team was coming to triple-check his methodology and conclusions.
However, at least 18 classified emails were sent from Abedin's account, were found by the FBI on Wiener's laptop, despite Strzok's apparent claim and abuse of power to once again clear Hillary Clinton to frame Donald Trump.
And we're going to have criminal referrals as it relates to FISA as well.
As they as the House Democrats now up what they're doing.
Now, earlier today, Intelligence National Security Correspondent for NBC News, Ken Belanian, is that his name reported that somewhat breaking news on MSNBC that the Senate Intel committee admits it found after two years no direct evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.
You know how hard those words must have been for them to, after two years of lying to the American people?
After two years interviewing more than 200 witnesses, the Senate Intel Committee has not uncovered any direct evidence of any conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.
That's according to sources on both the Democratic and Republican side of the aisle.
And he noted the Republican chair of the committee made remarks to that effect last week.
The report.
Now, by the way, you gotta it's pretty funny.
Listen to the response on MBC.
After two years and interviewing more than 200 witnesses, the Senate Intelligence Committee has not uncovered any direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.
That's according to sources on both the Republican and the Democratic side of the aisle, Howie.
And careful viewers and readers will note that Senator Richard Burr, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee who leads this probe, essentially said that in an interview with another network last week.
But what I've been doing since then is checking with my sources on the Democratic side to understand the full context of his remarks, because that was essentially a partisan comment from from one side.
But this is a bipartisan investigation.
And what I found, whoops it is Democrats don't dispute that characterization.
And by the way, the Democrats say this report will not be good for Donald Trump.
It will question the judgment of many people in the Trump war for having these meetings.
We're essentially allowing themselves to be preyed upon by a Russian.
What are they going to go after Hillary's interfere in the election and to help Donald Trump?
When are they going to go after Hillary's support of Putin's thugs in the Uranium One deal with the 145 million dollar kickback?
When are they going to go after the violation of the Espionage Act or obstruction of justice?
When are they going to go after the phony Russian dossier she paid for that was used as propaganda to lie to the American people before the campaign?
And then used as the basis for a Pfizer warrant.
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So uh I can tell you that uh am I happy at first glance?
I just got to see it.
The answer is no.
I'm not.
I'm not happy.
Uh the bottom line is on the wall.
Uh we're building the wall, and we're using other methods other than this.
And in addition to this, we have a lot of things going.
We have a lot of money in this country.
And we're using some of that money, a small percentage of that money to build the wall, which we desperately need.
Where do these people come from?
When are they?
They go back home to mommy.
They get punished when they get home.
Now you really mean finish that wall because we built a lot of them.
This weekend, some Democrats even proposed a measure that would force the release of thousands of criminal illegal aliens, including dangerous felons convicted of rape, sex trafficking, violent assault, and even murder into our country.
Can you believe this?
Their proposal would put a hard cap on the number of illegal aliens that are brave ice officers.
We love our ice officers.
Can detain and thus remove, forcing thousands of criminals to be set free into United States communities.
I don't think so.
Okay, I don't think so.
All right, our two Sean Hannity show.
That was the uh president big speech in El Paso last night.
As uh he's now I've spoke to my sources at the White House.
They have not gotten this this what I guarantee you is a horrible bill.
You know, the number one Democrats, you know, now they've okay, a measly 1.3 billion.
Okay, 55 miles, we'll take it, but they don't want to give the president any win whatsoever.
Now, the dilemma for the president is gonna be well, does he take the 1.3 and maybe simultaneously or maybe he can't do it before or immediately thereafter declare the national emergency.
Well, that means he definitely has the 1.3 and the emergency.
That gives us time to work through the courts, but because it's an emergency, it should be exp expedited.
You know, uh I and what a what a statement that would make.
I know most of you are looking at this deal saying it is president can't sign this deal, period.
Yeah, it's a typical horrible Washington, D.C. swamp sewer uh deal among establishment figures that are out of touch with what the American people are screaming that they want, which is to end the drug importation,
to end the human trafficking, to vet people before they get there, to stop the cartels, stop the drug dealers, and keep Americans safe because the crime statistics of the two percent that have access to the our borders, like the 98% that you know are otherwise want a better life for themselves and their kids, has been devastating.
4,000 homicides, murders, uh, you've got 10,000 sexual assaults in in two years.
Uh uh 30,000 rather, and a hundred thousand violent assault incidents with illegal immigrants.
Well, at that point, it's an emergency.
If 90% of our heroin comes across that southern border, well, that too is an emergency.
All right, joining us now uh to debate, discuss House Freedom Caucus chairman, Mark Meadows from North Carolina and House Freedom Caucus member, former chairman, he's been dethroned.
Uh Jim Jordan is with us.
You know, so I'm looking at uh look, maybe you guys have have more insight than to what I'm actually reading here.
The fact that they were even debating limiting the number of beds for illegal immigrant criminals, I mean, is beyond the pale to me.
You know, if you if you were sixteen thousand five hundred one and you just committed murder, basically they were saying you couldn't detain that person.
Um but what are you what's your overall impression of the deal?
I think knowing you both, you probably like me, you think it's atrocious and a swamp deal.
Go ahead, Mark.
Uh well Sean, uh let me let me just tell you, not only is it an atrocious deal, but it is a total capitulation.
I I I'm I'm at the point where you look at this, and yes, the president may end up signing it to keep the government open.
But he me better make it very clear that uh he is not in favor of this.
You only get what you reward, and he is about to roll reward Congress for not doing his job and continuing to do things the way they've always done.
Only in Washington, DC, Sean, think about this.
Only in Washington, DC, can you expect applause for passing a 1.37 billion dollar border security measure when it takes 25 billion to get it done?
I mean, it's let me say this.
What if the president signed the bill, kept the government open, because then we wouldn't don't have to go through you know another thirty-five days of Democrats pretending like they care about furloughed employees when they won't even sit at the table and and negotiate.
He takes the one point three five of the deal for the border, and then simultaneously declares a national emergency for the rest of the money.
Well, he should he should definitely declare the national emergency.
I think I think there was a couple takeaways I had.
You know, first of there was the irony.
At the same time, the president's giving this great speech in El Paso, Congress is putting together a bad deal in Washington.
It is a bad deal.
There's no if-ands, buts about it.
But you may be right.
He may end up signing and say, look, it's a bad deal, but I'm gonna pocket the money and I'm gonna declare the national emergency, and we're gonna go down that route because we know just they what you said earlier, Sean.
We know the drug problem, what the president said last night, the drug problem, the gang problem, the human trafficking problem, it is a national emergency.
I'm gonna start down that road and we're gonna we're gonna get this done no matter what.
Okay.
Now, in that sense, you know it's gonna happen.
The media, the hate Trump media and the Democrats, at that point are gonna realize that he outplayed them, that he got money up front, and then he's going for the rest on his own, like he said he would do.
Now they they they will see that, but they'll fight it in court, and this president was willing to fight back.
Jim and I have been talking about that even as as recent as just uh uh thirty minutes ago.
The president is a fighter and he's going to fight.
But here's the one area, and I very seldom disagree with you, Sean Hannity, but here's where I disagree with you today.
I think the president should declare the national emergency today.
The heck with waiting for the bill to be signed, the heck with with with this whole process, there is nothing that precludes him from doing it today.
If this is the best they're gonna offer, let him declare it today.
He can't why not take the one point three five and then declare the emergency, then he's got money to work with while he's fighting it out in the courts.
It's not like they can spend it all in in a month or two anyway.
Well, that's an option.
In other words, because you know what the Democrats will then do, they'll pull the one point three five off the bill.
Well, but if we did a continuing resolution, you'd have one point three six billion anyway, Sean.
And see, here's the whole thing.
Well, that's a good way to do it too.
I'm I'm listening I'm uh no all of us agree this is garbage.
And I mean, and if if any if there's any Democrat out there that thinks that the president is not going to declare a national emergency, they're dreaming.
They they're they are dreaming, And so he's going to do it, so he might as well go ahead and do it today.
Let them put up their pr uh you know protest today.
They they need to go ahead and the the American people need to see that this president is serious about building the wall.
You and I and Jim knows that he is, but it is important that he goes ahead and acts on the Sean.
Here's the other thing this bill unders underscores just how radical the left has become to reduce the number of detention beds for criminals for people who do harming violent people potentially.
This is how ra open borders, 70% marginal tax rate, green new deal.
They won't stand up when the president talks about the sanctity of life.
They won't stand up when he talks about capitalism and condemn socialism, and now they they want to reduce the number of detention beds.
So that in and of itself shows how ridiculous this legislation is.
But the president is he is gonna get this wall come heck or high water, he's gonna make it happen.
And and as the sooner he can declare this national emergency in my judgment, the better now.
Yeah, look, I think that the at the end of the day, I think it's a a good deal for the the president just to do it alone.
If he does this alone, then I think the president is doing much, much better.
And it shows his commitment, his tenacity.
Now there is this other pot of money that the president has available to him.
Uh we've all been talking about it, some 900 million dollars that he can also reallocate to the wall immediately too.
Isn't that part of the deal?
Yeah, sure is, Sean.
And and he can access that under the uh two eighty-four two seventy-four, uh, not not using the national emergency, but he can he can allocate that or go get that money, use it for uh enhanced fencing and everything else on the border.
He should do uh my my approach is all the above.
Do that, declare the national, do everything he can to simply do what we told the American people were gonna do and build the border security wall.
All right, so in in that sense, Mark Meadows, the president is is keeping his promise regardless of what a crappy swamp deal this ends up being, and again, he doesn't want to be blamed for shutting down the government.
Seventy-two percent of the American people supported his plans according to CBS on immigration, so they'll see him acting decisively.
And why do I believe if he use you know U.S. uh C two eight four, which I know both of you are familiar with, um the language is clear, especially on the issue of of drug interdiction, that the president has the right to build barriers on our southern border with the military.
Well, you're exactly right, Sean.
And and and listen, uh you and I and Jim Jordan all believe that this president is serious, and as Jim was saying, he's gonna build it one way or another.
But uh it's it's where is the money going to come from?
And I do believe that the nine hundred million or so that he could get from one of the executive tools in his toolbox uh gets his part of the way.
Uh the national emergency, and and I guess if if I were advising him, I would say uh use one of the sections of law that doesn't require a national emergency today, pass the rest of the bill that is put before you, and then declare a national emergency at the end of that, have all of that there.
But uh, but as Jim was saying, there's two or three different options he can use, use them all.
Use them all.
All right, got to take a quick break more with uh Congressman Mark Meadows, chairman of the Freedom Caucus and former chairman Jim Jordan, uh, as we continue.
We got a lot more coming up later in the program today.
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All right, as we continue with the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, Mark Meadows, and also Congressman Jim Jordan.
So Jim Jordan, even though the bill is bad on the border particularly, which is what we care about, if the president couples that with the nine hundred million that we all know is available at his disposal any time, which he will use now.
And again, he said last night this is about now finishing the wall.
Uh that then he declares a national emergency for the rest.
That sounds like, okay, it might take a few extra months, battle in the courts.
I think he wins in the Supreme Court because the left will go judge shopping, probably to the Ninth Circuit.
Okay, goes to the Ninth Circuit, which will gets overturned eighty percent of the time anyway, makes it to the Supreme Court.
I don't think the Supreme Court can ignore that issue, do you?
Uh I don't.
I mean, you never know what the court's gonna do, but I don't.
Understand there'll be a few steps in the in in along that path.
So if in fact he declares a national emergency, I think Pelosi, Speaker Pelosi will will do some um motion of disapproval, resolution of disapproval, that will pass the House.
The Senate's likely to do something as well.
The president vetoes that there's a veto override attempt.
We will, of course, vote with the president.
There won't be the votes to override his either.
So it's going to be a long drawn-out process legislatively.
Then as you write, but if he's of course would you be upset if he signed the bad bill to get the one three immediately to add to the 900 million and and declare the emergency.
Yeah, I I think that's where it might end up.
We don't like the bill.
We're just like you, Sean.
We think it's a bad bill.
We would rather see him declare the national emergency and do a short-term CR and see if we can get something better.
Probably can't.
So he may go ahead and sign and say, look, it's a bad bill.
I'm reluctantly going to sign it, and then we're going to do everything else that I can use under 284 and under the national emergency.
Well, the truth is he's never with this this Congress, these radical Democrats, he's never going to get the money he wants because they they've proven that they hate Trump more than they care about furloughed workers or DACA or dreamers.
Right.
They're more about stopping the president than they are about helping the country, and that's the fundamental problem we face.
So in that climate, you are probably right.
He's probably going to have to reluctantly sign this bad piece of legislation and then do everything else we've talked about.
Last word, Mark Meadows.
Yeah, and so, Sean, Jim's right.
Here's the only problem that I see with signing this deal, and I do believe the president's going to sign it, and I'm not going to beat him up over that because I know that he is serious about a national emergency.
Here's the problem.
It reinforces bad behavior that continues to happen decade after decade on Congress.
Now that I that I agree with, but again, it gives him the money in the interim to keep fighting and building while he's fighting the emergency issue.
That is correct.
Uh and a continuing resolution would do the same.
But you're you're right.
Listen, it's a it's a tactical call.
At the end of the day, uh I I fully believe that he signs this deal, and uh the jury will be out as long as he continues through with uh executive action.
I think the the vast majority of Americans will applaud his efforts for fighting on their behalf.
All right.
I appreciate it, guys.
Thank you very much.
Uh without the free by the way, without the freedom caucus, we're we're totally screwed in Congress.
Totally.
These guys are the only ones that fight every day for their promises and for the president and for his agenda, and all these other people are so pathetically weak, it's embarrassing.
I don't I I I don't even know how they live with themselves, half these guys.
Oh, yeah, we'll repeal the replaced Obamacare.
Where were you when you were needed?
It's easy to vote when it's never gonna pass.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
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All right, so Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and her new green deal for America.
You know, the one where we're gonna have to rebuild every house and building in ten years, and uh we're gonna get rid of all fossil fuels, we'll no longer have the combustion engine.
In other words, an engine that runs on gas, uh, we'll have no natural gas.
We're gonna only only clean and renewable energy, no nuclear energy even.
We're gonna do this all in ten years, destroy the economy in the process.
Add to that, okay, we have Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, Bernie Sanders, Medicare for all, which means and they've said it, we got to get rid of all private health insurance for every American that now has it.
Well, that happens to be a hundred and eighty-seven million Americans.
And what happens when that fails, just like Obamacare failed, keep your doctor, keep your plan, and save money.
None of those promises were kept at all.
And or the wealth tax of Elizabeth Warren, which after you paid your sixty, sixty-five cents of every dollar to the government, state, local, federal, well, then if you save too much, she's gonna come in and take even more.
In other words, they'll legalize stealing your money that you put in the bank.
And by the way, when you die, another 40% goes to the federal government, you live in a state like New York, another 10% goes to the state, and they take another bite at the apple, and you pay to die in America.
This is oh, and the 70 to 90 percent tax bracket that Ocasio Cortez and and many of these 2020 candidates are now pushing for.
All right, joining us now, Geraldo Rivera.
I'm calling this the new radical extreme, a party that believes in abortion even during the birthing process, and in the case of the Virginia governor after the baby's delivered and kept comfortable, then the mother can decide not to resuscitate.
Um the party of that, the party of almost full confiscation of income, the party that guarantees everything from cradle to grave, that doesn't want secure borders, that doesn't seem to care about crime in America.
This is this is, you know, the new Democratic Party.
Welcome aboard.
Yeah, really, working aboard.
At least they don't say uh abortion up to age five or ten, sure.
I'm just uh count your blessing.
Yeah, listen, they'd be uh they'd go right up to my birthday.
Trust me.
Yeah, right.
You uh I just want to say first of all that you were brilliant last night.
I uh your rage was so pure when you heard uh uh that there was a deal in the off thing for the wall, and that the president uh appeared to be uh on the on the verge of uh accepting far less money uh than he had asked for.
I thought that you the your pure rage is one of the reasons I love you as a brother.
Yeah, you know, you uh uh have deep rooted sincere convictions and you don't make uh any bones about expressing.
Listen, uh uh if the president signed this deal and declares the national emergency, I could live with that because he's getting one point three five million uh uh bil milli uh billion dollars up front.
Now if he does that and he doesn't declare a national emergency, then the president, you know, got caught up in the swamp and will have gotten rolled.
And I don't expect him to do that.
I think the president's gonna fulfill his promise.
I I see I I think the president will find a way to fulfill it, Thomas.
Get to that bottom line.
But by taking this uh this deal, the Democrats lose the high ground.
Remember, they were saying it was a moral issue.
The wall is a moral issue, not a dollar for the wall.
When they said 1.4 billion, then it became a negotiation.
Now it's not a moral issue anymore.
Now it's a negotiation.
I think Trump wins, regardless of what the other uh aspect of the uh of the uh wall building will be, where it will come from.
I'll leave that in the open.
As to your your main topic uh this afternoon about uh uh uh Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and the Green New Deal and these flamboyant ideas, these are wish lists.
These are uh, you know, then they shouldn't be as frightening to conservatives or uh to moderates as uh as sometimes they they may sound at first blush.
These are just you know, young people filled with verb and uh spontaneity and and uh compassion.
Uh you know, you want you you want people at the you know at the with that are coming in, the rookies who are coming in to have that that kind of uh you know energy, uh let's do this, let's get all rid of nuclear power, let's do this, let's get rid of and then uh you know, the the sober reality dawns on them after they've been around a couple of weeks in a couple of committees, and they see uh, you know, well, what's gonna make the electricity go?
How are you gonna pay for the tunnel to uh uh to Africa?
Uh, you know, I I I think that I applaud that that freshness.
I and I encourage rather than discourage the uh the uh the thinking that is so cosmic, Sean.
Well, I listen, I think that this is what Republicans don't even understand, and I blame them even more than the Democrats, although the Democrats have now gone so radical left extreme.
Uh, you know, even the party now, they're they're they're they're not even critical of people like they were Kavanaugh that are charged with serious sexual assault and even rape allegations.
I don't hear anybody screaming I believe or or saying I believe, um, and look at the anti-Semitism now of some members of Congress.
You said Kevin, I think you meant Fairfax, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you don't see the yeah, you don't seem the same outrage over Fairfax like you saw with Kavanaugh.
Thank you for helping me.
But and and the same with, you know, look at the rampant anti-Semitism.
That is now that that ugly strain of Democrat is sort of saying things with immunity, and they ought to be rebuked and taken off any foreign affairs committee, and they're so timid to do it, where if it was a Republican, they would be excoriated and bludgeoned to death.
See, I s I see even that a little differently than you do, my brother.
I see the fact that you have two Muslim women in Congress now.
One is uh of Palestinian origin, the other Somali origin.
You get their take.
Why not get their take?
Uh you know, I think that the uh the the Minnesota Congresswoman in her uh characterization of the uh Israeli lobby was way clumsy and uh and awkward and uh she's apologized.
Uh but there is no doubt, and you know it in your heart that there's two big stories to tell in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine, and uh, you know, the United States official policy is still a two state solution, and it's good to remind people of that once in a while.
I nayed it.
No, but not talking about we're we're talking about rampant anti Semitism.
Well, I mean, when you say that Jews are all about money, that's anti Semitic.
Yeah.
When you say that uh that uh Israel is unfair uh to the Palestinians or is uh is occupying these people and denying them their rights, that's not uh that's not radical.
That's that's something I think we need to hear more of.
Well, I think when you look at, for example, Congresswoman Omar's APAC tweet, which you know it's terrible.
It's terrible.
It's like so dumb.
It's like she you know, it's not dumb, it's it is it is anti Semitism.
I mean and it is definitely anti Semitism, that's why it's dumb.
And she gets a slap on the wrist for all of this, and nothing s happened.
I think she's really diminished she's been really diminished.
Congresswoman Taleb writes a column for Lewis Farrakhan's publication uh a few years back.
And she's gonna impeach the MFR also, you know.
It's uh uh but l let the let them be that.
Let the Democrats be that.
And let the president, on the other hand, be the sober uh conciliator, uh, you know, uh, you know, stop being tempestuous, uh co cool it with the tweets.
He'll be the grown up in the room, you'll back him from the right, I'll back him from the center.
Uh, you know, and then you I love how you put yourself in the center.
Uh you know, I would put you more left center, but you know.
All right, all right.
Well that's okay.
But what do you make of uh what is I think between the two of us we could take care of this guy?
Look how insane I can't new green deal is green new deal.
Um if you hang ask your kids, even conservative students.
They hear this stuff all the time.
They they hear uh, you know, uh uh uh y uh uh guaranteed uh national income.
Uh they hear uh uh abolish fossil fuel.
They they hear it, they discuss it, it's exciting, and then they get they wake up the next day and say, uh pass me the kerosene lantern.
I can't see.
Uh you know, it's uh it it it's a Yeah, but we're gonna get rid of air airplanes in ten years.
How how are we gonna get to Europe?
How are we gonna get to Australia?
You're gonna take the fast train.
Yeah.
It's only uh what is it?
It's only what, four thousand miles of border you have to tell.
It's not bad.
I thought they'd come up with a system above water so we'd have a view.
Um levitate us, they'll levitate us.
Yeah, I can't wait for the the high speed train to Australia.
That that'll take us a few centuries to get there.
You know, I live in Cleveland.
The train takes a day and a half.
I could use a little high speed.
I love it.
You know, it's it's looks all of this, and here we are on the verge.
We're now energy independent.
We produce more oil, natural gas than any other country on the earth, and our resources are more vast.
We are the we are the Middle East of natural gas.
Uh it's great for our national security.
And as much as, you know, we don't have to engage in in foreign conflicts for the free flow of oil at market prices any longer, because we're energy independent.
And number two, there are literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs uh headed down the pipeline, literally as two pipelines are being built.
Uh but that means we're gonna have great career jobs for many Americans that need them that will change and alter their lives dramatically.
Remember, North Dakota truck drivers were being trained to make an a hundred grand a year.
Those are good jobs.
Why not have a Republican real New Deal?
We have what you just mentioned, uh North Dakota and uh the expanding uh job opportunities there.
Talk about different uses of natural gas.
Uh talk about uh uh nuclear energy and the renaissance that that could bring and not uh uh add a single uh degree to global uh warming or climate change.
Talk let's give, you know, like our thinkers, put them to work with uh with uh a pragmatic approach with that still has an idealistic visionary uh kind of uh uh take to it.
Then when the president talks about the space force, let him talk about space.
Let me talk about Mars and beyond.
Get the imagination of the young folks rather than letting the Democrats come up with all the ideas, however flamboyant and and uh exaggerated.
Why don't we have some of our thinkers being more innovative?
I love I think the president is a doer, and the whole thing is we have two pipelines now that were never gonna be built under any democratic president.
They're now online, and that includes the Keystone and the Dakota pipeline, and he opened up Anwar, and he's gotten rid of all the burdensome regulation that has been holding back the energy sector.
And I gotta be honest, I think this is you know, uh a renaissance economically for this country, and it also protects our national security, and as we export more energy, the lifeblood of every economy, well, at that point uh we'll be helping keep the world safer and less dependent on on foreign dictatorships or people that hate us for energy.
All true.
And you sounded just like Trump in the State of the Union.
That's the that's the winning formula.
Practical, uh, you know, uh open-minded, uh, you know, uh celebrate his achievements, talk about the economy every other sentence, talk about how the rising tide is lifting all boats.
Uh, you know, we have a very good case to make on the substance of it.
Put aside the personalities coming into 2020.
You know, that kind of measured positive, optimistic.
We're all on this together, we can do this.
You know, I I I would applaud that.
And I think that with Shine now, our buddy in the uh, you know, in the communications department there, uh uh, you know, get get that message out.
Not the not the creepy uh, you know, uh she's a commie and this one's a this and that.
Uh you know, I I love the that guy I saw in the uh in the House chamber.
That's the president for 2020.
I agree with you.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back with more with my friend Geraldo Rivera on the other side, 800 941 Sean.
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Did you watch last night?
I thought the president was dead on last night and having a lot of fun doing it.
But I thought that uh you had the most fun, but I I think he did have a lot of fun, and uh he loved comparing Israeli to uh to Beito's the Beto's got a great name.
I love that line.
I call him Bozo, you know.
Well, I mean, you know, but you look at the this nutty, you know, transfer of wealth.
I mean, look at what uh eliminating health care, nationalizing energy and and the health care industry, Medicare for all, free housing for all.
Now offer free college for all, uh healthy food for all, uh cradle to grave, womb to the tomb.
That destroys America's ingenuity and wealth that is second to none in the world.
Look, you know, liberals get mad when I say this, but I spent years of my life really without any money, struggling as a contractor and you know, living, you know, paycheck to paycheck, if you will, for a pretty long period of time.
It's not fun.
I know you brush over your bartender years.
Well, you know, I was making my top to that when you were doing that.
No, I don't listen, I admit I would tend bar until four in the morning uh and close the bar when I was an eleventh grade.
Then I'd decide go to a diner, eat breakfast, read the newspaper, and decide to go home or go to school.
And then you'd phone in to talk radio and raise hell.
I'd ph phone in to talk radio and raise hell and say, I want to talk about that Geraldo guy.
Um, Geraldo Rivera, thanks for being with us.
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Uh 800 941 Sean, toll free telephone number.
So uh I can tell you that uh am I happy at first glance?
I just got to see it.
The answer is no.
I'm not.
I'm not happy.
But am I happy with where we're going?
I'm thrilled.
I don't think you're going to see a shutdown.
I wouldn't want to go through it, no.
If you did have it, it's a Democrat's fault.
And I accepted the first one, and I'm proud of what we've accomplished because people learned during that shutdown.
All about the problems coming in from the southern border.
I accept.
I've always accepted it.
But this one I would never accept if it happens, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
But this would be totally on the Democrats.
Okay.
Are you saying that you may um amend and send back the compromise?
It's always nice to negotiate a little bit, right?
So you know whatever you get.
But I would hope that there won't be a shutdown.
I am extremely unhappy with what the Democrats have given us.
It's sad.
It's sad they're doing the country no favor.
They are hurting our country very badly.
Uh but uh we certainly don't want to see a shutdown.
But you'll be here fairly soon.
Uh the bottom line is on the wall.
Uh we're building the wall, and we're using other methods other than this, and in addition to this, we have a lot of things going.
We have a lot of money in this country.
And we're using some of that money, a small percentage of that money, to build the wall, which we desperately need.
All right, that was the president uh, of course, earlier today.
This uh what I would describe as an atrocious uh basically a sewer swamp typical Washington deal.
Remember, you know, one interesting point is the Democrats were arguing that walls are immoral and they're only going to give the president a dollar, and now we're up to 1.35.
Uh, but it certainly is not enough for the president to get the job done.
Now, there's the other 900 million that the president has available to him to fund the wall and other things associated with securing the border.
Um, but uh we're joined by Lindsey Graham.
Uh I don't know if you agree with me.
I think this this deal is atrocious.
But if the president took the money from this deal and simultaneously declared a national emergency, that would at least hold them over for a little while as he's you know fighting his way through the courts, which I think would be expedited because of the emergency aspect of it.
Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed it there.
So uh the the one thing about the deal I'm not sure about that would make it a horrible deal is if he's required to reduce bed spaces for uh uh violent criminals.
I've I was told uh a couple hours ago that under the deal the president can reprogram seven hundred and fifty million dollars to add additional bed spaces for violent offenders, that the 40,000 cap on bed spaces does not include the seven hundred and fifty million dollars he can use at his discretion, which in theory could allow him to go up to fifty-eight thousand in bed spaces, he asked for fifty-two.
So if that reprogramming is available to the president, that alleviates my concern about reducing bed spaces for violent offenders.
Yeah, but you agree with me, this is not a good deal.
This is not that's not a serious way short of what we need, absolutely.
So look, I I think I know the president extremely well.
Um I've known him for over a couple of decades, and we saw him last night how passionate he was.
Um I would think that he's looking at 1.35 million and and saying, okay, you guys are not serious.
Um but if he took that money as a down payment and simultaneously declared the national emergency or USC 284, uh, which clearly the language allows him to use the military to build some type of barrier at the southern border to stop drugs uh from coming into the country.
Um I think he wins in the Supreme Court.
They'll go judge shopping somewhere out in California.
Uh the liberal judge would side with them, then the Ninth Circuit will side with the Democrats.
Then I would think the Supreme Court has a hard time saying no to accepting this case and making a ruling on it.
Well, but I think that's probably right.
But the the real question is, is this a fight worth having?
The answer is Yes.
Most things in Washington that really bring about change you have to fight for.
Now, this guy, President Trump, is fighting for the central promise he made domestically, which is to secure our border by having barriers for we need barriers.
So the one point three seven five billion dollars, the question I have, can he use that money for still barriers like he's been proposing?
If the answer is yes, without equivocation, then that's a down payment toward the five seven.
Then he does what you said.
He takes what's left of the eight hundred and eighty million dollars in the defense bill, he applies it to barriers where it makes sense.
He declares a national emergency and reprograms money money to finish out what's left of the five seven.
He goes to court, he fights like hell.
I think he wins, but more than anything else, he'll be seen as have fighting have been fighting for what he promised, and the Democrats are on the wrong side of border security.
There is no losing.
Remember what we said three weeks ago.
Give the Congress a chance to work with you.
If they don't come up with an acceptable outcome, Mr. President, do it by yourself.
That's where we're headed.
I think that's where we're headed too.
Now, is it strategically better and look all all my conservative friends looking at this bill and seeing it as exactly as I labeled it last night?
I said this is a garbage bill.
Um I'm frankly surprised because I really do like Richard Shelby and I'm a little surprised.
He's a good guy.
He did the best he could.
You got to remember these people hate Trump.
Okay, but you know, the bottom line is the president doesn't want a government shutdown.
Now the other option would be to just do uh continuing resolution, maybe short term, and send these guys back to the bargaining table, keep the government funded, but you know, or and declare the national emergency anyway.
You see because if he declares the national emergency first, they're gonna they're gonna take that money back out of the bill, don't you think?
A hundred percent.
So this is why old people listen to your radio show.
So here's the couple plays you can make here.
Number one, if the bed space is reduced under this bill for violent offenders, I would not sign it, even if it cost him his job, I would not sign it.
I would do a continuing resolution.
However, if under the bill, the deal, you can actually add bed spaces, that would alleviate that concern.
What I would do if I were the president, I'd take the one point three seven five billion if I can spend it on barriers like I like I would like, and I'd do the rest by emergency uh declaration.
That's what I would do.
I think that is a good outcome for the country.
Now he's got to fight for the difference between the one three, one hundred four, and five seven, but that's a fight worth having.
Look, if the president is gonna have at that point it would be two point three five billion or thereabouts.
Right.
All right, so that's money that can be used in the interim.
Uh let's assume this is a four to six month court battle, maybe longer.
What do you think?
Well, so you know, this section that you keep referring to, I think it's two hundred five four, whatever section it is.
Section two hundred four, U.S. code.
two eighty four.
Okay, what it says that the president can um put barriers in place at drug court orders up to eight hundred and eighty million.
Some of that money has already been allocated, Sean, so it's like six hundred left.
So you take the one point three seven five, you add this six hundred, you can do that without declaring an emergency.
That's appropriated dollars from the Congress, plus an account we created last year that he can access without declaring emergency.
Then you declare emergency for the rest.
I think it does go to court, it's a fight worth having.
He's going to win, and if you ask me what kind of contrast you want with Democrats, it would be over this issue.
You know, the one thing that I I know it's gonna irk some people, then some people are gonna say, no, he should just veto this bill.
But the problem is okay, and let's say he vetoes the bill and does the national emergency.
Now we've got a whole issue of a shutdown to deal with once again.
Right.
But more importantly, at least in the interim he's gonna have, based on what you said about the nine hundred million and the one point three five, whatever the number is in the bill, he has that money to play with from day one.
That's appropriated now, and so in the interim, I don't even think they could spend it that fast, to be honest.
You gotta remember we're talking about money to be spent by October the first this year.
That's what this debate is about how much money can we allocate for border security between now and October the first.
If he does a s continuing resolution, the most money available to him is six hundred million dollars for barriers, not one point three seven five.
Because if we have to go back to last year's levels, the last time we appropriated money, he loses two thirds of what what we've obtained in this deal.
Any Senator, any friend in the Republican Party in the U.S. Senate that opposes the president doing the right thing to stop drugs, human trafficking, even young girls into prostitution, uh stop the cartels,
stop the gangs, look look at the four thousand homicides, the thirty thousand sexual assaults, a hundred thousand uh instances of of violent assaults by illegal criminals, immigrant criminals, and if they don't support him, I would argue for them it's political suicide.
Well, let me tell you about the party.
Uh uh the president beat seventeen of us, sixteen of us, uh decisively, and one of the central pieces of his agenda was to fix a broken immigration system by securing our border as step one.
So here's what I think.
It is an emergency that he's made a compelling case that the border is dangerously broken.
And Democrats might do things in the future with climate change and guns, but I know this.
Donald Trump should do what he's planning to do on the border.
Declare a national emergency because the facts justify that, and to my Republican colleagues.
If we don't stand behind this president in declaring a national emergency, we must disagree with his evaluation of the problem that is some manufactured crisis as Democrats say.
How can you listen to this president describe the state of the the border and not believe we have a crisis on our hands?
Uh it's obvious and look at the crowd reaction last night.
Now, not just the crowd inside the arena in El Paso.
Look at the crowd outside, you know, ha look like thirty thousand people outside.
And I think Bozo, uh what what did he have up under a thousand people?
I didn't say that.
Well, th th this is not my crowd's bigger than yours.
Uh Trump had an example.
No, but the but the passion is real for this.
Real.
But it's the State of the Union speech.
Go back.
This is the moment when the a lot of people are watching, 45 million Americans.
Seventy-four percent of the people agreed with the president's characterization about the State of the Union.
The State of the Union is strong economically, we're safer militarily, but our border is broken and it it's a crime problem, is a humanitarian problem, uh it is a drug problem.
Seventy-four percent of the people agreed with the president.
That's all a Republican should need to know.
Seventy-four percent of the people who listened to the president agreed with his assessment.
Eighty percent of independence.
I mean, we would be idiots politically.
You talk about suicide Well, by the way, but there are a lot of idiot Republicans out there, Senator.
Well, no offense.
Now's the time to have less because but we would be idiots to not back the president because the public understands where he's coming from.
Well, I think the public supports him and that's where you too.
And and the support is getting stronger as we saw last night.
It's getting stronger, but the argument that the border is broken is compelling.
Even the governor of California said I'm gonna leave a hundred National Guard troops because they are making a difference on drug interdiction.
The point is that the drug problem in this country is at an all-time high for opioid abuse.
All the heroin in the country just about comes through the Mexican border.
They seized enough fentanyl about three weeks ago to kill fifty-seven million people.
Human trafficking, what if they ever put that fentanyl and poison the the food supply in this country?
Just play out all of these problems.
The bottom line is the president has made a compelling case that the border is dangerously broken, that he has power that every other president's had in the past to declare an emergency, and for the Republicans not to stand by him, basically undercuts his assessment of the national security threats we face.
He is our commander in chief.
He is not wrong to believe that the border is under siege.
He is not wrong to want to put up barriers where barriers make sense.
And if you don't support him here, you're basically saying he is wrong with no evidence to suggest that you're right.
Well, I'm just gonna say what you're saying.
Any Republican that won't back him in the Senate or the House on this is frankly not they're not capable of doing their job.
And if they don't see the same movie that we're watching.
Yeah, and by the way, over the years, to be very clear, um you and I have battled over issues involving immigration.
When we're in full sync here, build the wall, fund the wall, build the wall, declare the emergency and get it over.
So when Sean Hennity and Lindsay Gramnisty are telling you this is what you should do, you should at least listen.
But here's the point.
Real quick always believed you're not gonna fix a broken immigration system until you secure your border.
Democrats are opposed to border security when it comes to barriers.
They're willing to let criminals out of jail when it comes to bed space.
If you're looking for these people to help this president, they're not gonna help him.
They hate Donald Trump.
They want him to fail.
So to all my dem uh Republican colleagues who worry about the president we're setting for the future and the legal niceties, here's what I would say.
It's not what a Democrat may do in the future should drive your thinking.
It's whether or not this president is right.
This president is right to say the emergency that that the border is broken and we need emergency funding.
He is right.
It's not about what a Democrat might do in the future, it's about whether or not this president is right and I believe him to be right.
All right.
Senator Lindsey Graham, you're all you're right on this issue, and I think it would be ironic.
He takes the money and then he declares the emergency at the same time.
That would piss off every Democrat and liberal in the country.
Uh thank you for being with us.
You don't think the public's gonna see anything.
You think it's 40 million dollars, Mueller investigated it, and that's it.
No, but the rules of the department, just put yourself, put yourself in the president's shoes.
Let's say we investigate you guys, and it comes out your witness and the subject, you cooperate transparently, and we take all those facts and we say, you know, there's nothing here.
The idea that you would take that information and make it public, you know, violates the whole concept of the grand jury.
What's the grand jury for to protect the innocent?
And by the way, I've read thousands of grand jurors, and I it does protect the innocent.
I mean, maybe one in ten cases you would bring.
But you would investigate some I mean, I talk about organized crime, public corruption.
You I mean you you come you come close to really awful stuff, but is it a crime?
Is it prosecutable?
No.
Does that ever get reported?
No.
So you're saying when Mueller's report drops, it's gonna be a flop.
You're you're saying we're not gonna I won't be shocked if if anything regarding the president is made public, other than we're done.
Do you respect what Mueller is doing?
I know you know Mueller well.
Well, I respected it in the beginning.
And I started out, and uh it's my style is I always trust the other side until we did it.
In my opinion, on March 5th, we were done.
He had everything.
He said he had everything.
He told me that no one had lied.
He told me they had every document we asked for.
Yeah, he told me that it was nothing more.
He told me that the president was not a target.
That is, he did not have any exposure, that he was a witness subject, which is perfectly normal for someone's conduct you're looking at, but they don't have exposure.
What people don't understand about the president, and I think the same would be with you, is you you have too much information in your life.
When you go back and talk about Flynn or Comey, those events, while magnified in the media, are nothing.
Not compared to the threat of the Soviet Union, the threat of the China dealing with Japan, dealing with Korea.
I mean, the the amount of information that he intakes every day and gets prepared for is staggering.
And In my questioning him or talking show, he questioned you know, first question, easy.
Second question, easy.
Third question, he wasn't sure.
And he doesn't like being unsure.
So he'll guess.
There's your trap right there.
It's not whether he lies or not.
Everybody wants to get into this, you know, uh this integrity business.
It's not a matter of integrity.
It's overload.
You know, I I tried to deal with Rosenstein.
Early on, we wrote a letter to Muller saying, look, Comey's the accuser in this phony investigation.
We think there are other issues regarding his conduct as to the origin of this whole business.
Turns out not only was I right, but Comey admitted that there were no facts to investigate the president on.
I mean, there's no collusion.
So then I so Bob said he wasn't looking at it.
So I wrote to Rosenstein, he blew me off.
That's not leadership.
That's not accountability.
This is a very serious.
I mean, we were very serious, and we did it in writing.
We did it politely, we did it confidentially, and he just blew us off.
So I lost all respect for Rob Rosenstein.
And Sessions, I don't know what he was doing.
I'm not sure Sessions knows what he was doing.
We did the very best we could to bring it home.
I think it is coming home, and I think it's coming home in the same shape.
And you know, and then you know, there are people in the press say, well, he must have some surprise.
He didn't have I know exactly what he has.
I know exactly what every witness said, what every document said is I know exactly what he has.
And I know what I know what you know what the what the conclusion or the result is.
What does he have?
What's the result?
What's the conclusion?
Decline.
There's no basis.
There's no exposure.
It's been a terrible waste of time.
What's worse is let's get on the other side of this, how it all happened.
This is one of the greatest frauds this country's ever seen.
And I'm just shocked that Bob Mueller didn't call it that way and say I'm being used.
I would have done that.
If I were in his shoes in this thing, I'd have gone, I'd have gone to Sessions and Rosenstein and said, look, this is nonsense.
We are being used by a cabal and the FBI.
That's John Dowd and all those comments uh made uh earlier today.
Uh pretty shocking comments uh about Mueller not even having a report.
He knows the president didn't do any of this, was afraid of a perjury trap, no respect for Rod Rosenstein and a waste of time, one of the greatest frauds ever committed in the country.
Yeah, the real collusion is with the Democrats.
All right, let's get to your phones.
You've been very patient here as our coverage of the deep state continues.
By the way, Devin Nunes on Hannity tonight, he's indicating criminal referrals on FISA abuse are coming.
Wow.
Uh let's get to our phones.
Uh all right, let's get to this deal and what people think of it.
If the president, if he couples it with an emergency declaration, that's fine.
If not, that's a problem to me.
Uh let's say hi to Jane in Arizona.
What's up, Jane?
Jane, how are you?
All right, Bill in Pensacola, Florida.
Bill, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean, how's it going?
I'm good.
How are you?
Take my call.
Great.
Hey, um, I just wanted to make a quick comment because you know, Donald Trump was elected.
He was he's an outsider, he's a fighter.
The people are behind him.
And we're like really tired.
I mean, everybody I've talked to, we're like tired of hearing this rhetoric over and over put out by the Democrats, and that the fact that the Republicans themselves aren't fine.
I'm a conservative, and I'm tired of seeing people think, oh, let's just play their game, you know, let's play by their rules, and then we get beat because they're not playing by rules.
And, you know, um I think that Donald Trump should just declare the emergency, get the wall done, and then go after the deep state.
Let's see some prosecutions.
Let's we're tired of them getting away with, you know, this kind of thing.
And we just want to see it move forward, you know.
Well, look, I mean, I th this is why the deal's horrible.
This is in Republicans.
What I'm worried about more than anything is, you know, the Republicans, you know, I I I guess he can say they got some money.
They got more than a dollar.
They got 1.35 billion.
And that that's money to work with in this fiscal year.
President has another 900 million that that he legally can use on the wall now.
Um that's all good.
Uh, but it's it's not enough, and it's not fast enough without the urgency that is needed to solve a big problem.
And that's why it has to be together.
I if if not, I can tell you conservatives are gonna be furious at the Republicans, and I just think m my understanding of the president and knowing him all these years, and I don't think I've been wrong to date.
Remember, I stuck my neck out and told everybody he's gonna govern like a conservative.
Remember that?
And a lot of people were doubting back in the day.
I don't know if you were listening to me then, Bill, but were you listening?
I've been listening to you for a long time.
Well, you uh you probably remember people say, What are you talking about?
He gave money to Democrats in New York, and and I kept telling people, no, you don't understand.
He was playing the game that they that they rigged.
That's their game.
And he did it to keep build you know, construction workers working, buildings going up, plumbers, electricians, carpenters and business, painters, everyone benefits when somebody builds a big building.
So uh, but I've known him and I knew that his his political philosophy evolved greatly over the years.
And I also know that when he says he's gonna do something, he does it.
So I haven't been wrong yet.
My guess, strong guess is if he will sign this crappy bill, he's only doing it to keep the government open and get a down payment of 1.35 that'll put with another 900 million and sign the emergency declaration to get the rest.
That's my guess.
That's what I th if I think uh that's what I think will happen.
Would that be okay with you?
Oh, that would be okay.
But on the second side of that is the how the deep state is just keep, you know, everything, whatever, you know, it's all out there, you know.
800 941 Sean, toll free telephone number.
Uh let's get to Brian is in uh oh, he's down at WOKV in beautiful Ponta Vidra.
What's going on?
How are you, Brian Brian?
Hey Sean, how you doing?
I I just wanted to comment on the Green New Deal and the high speed rail.
Uh they've tried to work that out in California, they've tried to do it in Florida, and every time we try to build something, the environmentalists come out and say that it's gonna harm the habitat of some spider or prairie dog, and nothing ever gets done.
Well, look, you know, the this is a government that is now gonna alter every single aspect of our economy within ten years and eliminate the lifeblood of the economy and making all sorts of wild declarations uh about everything being guaranteed.
It is uh I can guarantee one thing about this new Green Deal.
It'll it'll bring Americans to their knees and into poverty faster than anything we've ever seen.
And it'll cause literally, you know, I love this.
We're gonna get rid of airplanes.
Well, how are you gonna get to Europe now?
Well, we're gonna have a high speed train, dig a tunnel from here to Europe, uh, or we're gonna have a high speed train on top of the water.
How are they planning on doing that in ten years?
And how are we gonna have that uh that high-speed train in ten years available for Australia or New Zealand or Asia?
How's that gonna happen?
You know, it is how do you gonna guarantee people housing, a job, vacations, best health care, best, best, best, best free, free, free.
It's not possible.
Then you're gonna take the the lifeblood of every economy and destroy it.
Our path to wealth is our energy resources.
All we have to do is use them.
And you'll see the standard of living of every American skyrocket quickly.
Uh wait to these two pipelines get online.
Wait till Anwar gets online.
You know what?
It's gonna be prosperity for people that deserve it.
And you know, these people that want to take that away from you, just remember who they are.
This is a pipe dream, but this is how they think.
Take it seriously.
Okay.
Yeah, and remember uh John Kerry, uh, we wanted wind power unless it was going to affect uh his views off of uh uh what Nantucket Island or Martha's Vineyard, wherever it was.
Right.
Yeah, no, that was actually Kennedy and I don't know where these people are Nantucket, Matha's Vineyard, uh, you know.
Whatever.
I'm glad they're enjoying the good life.
Look, I just go with the president's own statements today.
And the president earlier today, um, you know, as House Conservatives rightly blast this deal uh for all the right reasons, and the president's saying, Well, I'll I'll add whatever I have to add to build the wall.
That's it.
He's telegraphing what he's gonna do.
Now, people don't aren't smart enough to believe him.
That's their problem.
I believe he's gonna do that.
That's what I would say is likely to happen.
Uh back to our phones.
We've got uh, let's see here, William in Oklahoma.
What's up, William?
How are you?
How are you doing, Sean?
Good, what's happening?
Okay, uh, if Trump decides to go to the emergency route, if he says, say Fri uh Monday at two o'clock, he's gonna declare a national emergency.
What he needs to do is have somebody on his behalf file a petition in the Fifth Circuit Court preventing him from doing that, saying he does not have the authority to do it.
The Fifth Circuit will overturn it, say he does have the authority.
Then he has a ruling out of a district court uh saying that he does have the authority to do it, because if he doesn't, somebody's gonna file it in the Ninth Circuit, and it's gonna be held up for months.
All right.
That sounds listen.
I think look, that's a that's actually the beauty in the sense that the down payment actually helps him by some time because now he's got two point three billion dollars to play with, if you will, uh in the interim while he's fighting in court.
So the wall's being built in the interim.
That's kind of the Democrats are gonna lose it big time.
And I think they're gonna lose ultimately in court.
They won't lose the first couple of rounds.
They'll likely go judge shopping for that.
But after the Ninth Circuit, I don't see how the Supreme Court stays out of a fight about you know presidential power and a national emergency and drugs, and you know, the code is clear.
U.S., you know, 284 is what it is.
All right, Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
President unhappy with this so-called compromise deal on the border, but he says, Well, I'll be able to add to it on my own.
To me, a clear indication that he will go the emergency route uh and take the money up front, down payment.
The battle over whether he can or cannot use the 900 million, but that's neither here nor there.
Um, and we'll have full coverage of all that.
We also have breaking news on the deep state that looks finally.
We now see criminal referrals that will be coming as it relates to FISA abuse and other issues.
Devin Nunes, Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett tonight.
Also, we'll have the latest on the battle for the border, Dan Bongino, Monica, Lawrence, Jesse Jessica, all coming up.
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