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We've been following the border and you go back to the election, the news media, Barack Obama out campaigning.
This is not, this is, this is just to racially inspire those racist Republicans to vote, et cetera, et cetera.
No, that's never been what it was about.
And now we have a real crisis, 7,000, an estimated people in Tijuana.
It's now developing into a massive humanitarian crisis.
Medical supplies are needed greatly for things like TB and other diseases, which, by the way, I think the U.S. should probably help the people.
And the bigger problem is that Mexican officials and our own Department of Homeland Security have identified over 600 people that have infiltrated the migrant caravan community, if you will.
And there's been assault, sexual assault, and other going on throughout the time that the walking and the caravan has been moving.
And anyway, the most important thing, 600 people that we've identified as criminals.
There's a daily caller piece out today.
The media never misses a chance to try and paint illegal migrant border crashes as sympathetic, hardworking families, you know, women and children when the vast majority of people are actually men.
And for every, you know, all the thousands, I'm sure the vast majority of people that want what we often take for granted, which is a better life and opportunity for themselves and their kids.
And the problem is there is this report of an illegal alien pleading guilty Wednesday of this week of raping and murdering an Islamic teen last year in a horrifying case near a mosque in Fairfax County, Virginia.
Darwin Martinez-Torres, 25, pled guilty, capital murder and rape 17-year-old Nabra Hassana.
And part of the deal allows him to avoid the death penalty in exchange for a life sentence behind bars.
And Martinez-Torres is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a suspected member of the notorious MS-13 street gang.
According to the Daily Mail, prosecutors laid out the crime in chilling detail.
And we had a recent case of a young teacher that was killed by an illegal immigrant in Texas last weekend.
And in that case, he had already been arrested for a violent crime, and we didn't deport the person.
Now this young teacher is dead.
And people talk about family separation.
Well, you can't use tear gas.
Well, what are you supposed to do when people are pelting bottles, rocks, and other projectiles at our border patrol and trying to crash down gates and enter the country illegally?
Senator Lindsey Graham is with us.
Senator, how are you?
How was your Thanksgiving?
It was good.
I hope you had a good one.
You know what we do, which is really, I got a butterball turkey fryer.
No, I swear.
So, like, take a 15-pound turkey.
How long do you think it takes to cook that?
Four hours.
No, 45 minutes.
No, you literally, you just drop it down in peanut oil.
It's over in 45 minutes.
It's the juiciest turkey.
Now, turkey is usually dry when you're done.
You can't baste it.
You baste it.
It has the skin on it.
It's not going to penetrate the skin anyway.
But it comes out steep, moist, delicious, the best turkey ever had.
Well, you've just talked to the guy that can't boil water, and I'm much better for having learned all that.
Oh, come on.
What are you going?
You can't make spaghetti, seriously?
You can't fry an apple?
No, I'm a danger to myself and others in the kitchen.
But I'm glad that you're good at what you do on the radio as well as doing frying turkeys.
Picking up turkeys, let's talk about the Democratic response to the caravan.
Yeah, pretty bad.
Well, Chuck Schumer, I guess, got pressure from the left wing of his party for even talking about funding the border wall.
And he says, well, maybe we'll just put up a fence.
A fence isn't going to stop anybody.
Here's a moment in time for President Trump to drive home the point he's been making for two years that something's got to change.
And let's start with a caravan.
If you do not deter this caravan, you've got 10 more coming.
If you don't get it now that people are trying to overrun our border, take advantage of our laws, you're never going to get it.
So President Trump, stand your ground.
I'm for fixing a broken immigration system, but who is going to allow us to fix this broken immigration system unless you can prove to them you won't have 11 million 20 years from now?
And that's what the caravan's about.
It's always been, in my mind, secure the border first.
You know how you always, for example, you make these spending deals, you and your friends in Washington, and we always get the tax increase right away.
And then the spending cuts, we never get the, that part of the deal never happens.
Right.
So we'd get the amnesty, but we're not going to get the wall.
Well, so that's what Reagan did.
Reagan gave 3 million people amnesty.
We never did the border.
We never controlled employment through Air Verify.
We never increased legal immigration so people don't have to cheat.
The one thing I can tell you for sure is if you can't prove to the public that you won't have a third wave by being fair to the 11 million already here, you're never going to get a deal.
To Democrats who want to fix a broken immigration system, when you ignore the problems created by the caravan, when you make light of the fact that our laws are broken and enticing people to come here illegally, when you criticize President Trump for doing the same thing President Obama did on the border to protect us, then you're making a huge mistake.
You know, Senator, there's two ideas out there that I think I like.
The president so far has been given, what, three and a half billion, if I'm not correct, for the border wall.
Right.
And there's progress made.
The estimate is we need a total of 25.
There's two proposals out there.
One is if Republicans decide to stick together, they could use the reconciliation process in the Senate, which would mean that you only need 50 votes.
Mike Pence would be the tiebreak and that we could get full funding of the wall.
If not, the president has said he would take $5 billion as a down payment and negotiate the actual building of the wall himself, meaning it's not going to be waste, fraud, and abuse.
He's going to get somebody to give him a good deal.
Right.
So Ted Cruz has been pushing this idea.
Count me in.
We need to do it before the new Congress because we're going to lose the House.
Are you talking about the reconciliation?
Reconciliation.
So count me in.
Again, I've been beat up for trying to solve immigration, but people never understood where I'm coming from.
I want to fix it so we don't have 11 million 20 years from now.
I don't want to do a phony deal.
I want to do a real deal.
And it starts with border security.
If you can't control the border, you're going to have 11 million more 20 years from now.
So I think Ted Cruz's idea is a smart idea.
Let's go ahead and appropriate the entire $25 billion in the next 10 days.
I love it.
Will Mitch McConnell do it?
Do you think it would pass?
Where are your fellow senators?
Because we really can't afford to lose any.
I mean, and you're kind of friends with everybody.
We won't know until they vote.
So the bottom line is that the Democratic Party is missing an opportunity to work with us to give public confidence that we all see the same movie.
The most people in this country have no animosity toward immigrants in general.
We'll be fair to illegal immigrants as long as they're not felons, rapists, and murderers, but they're pretty upset with our government who cannot work together to stop an invasion by a caravan of people who are demanding to come into the country.
So let's use the time we have left in Congress to go ahead and get the money and see what happens.
Where, well, Mitch McConnell kind of runs a tight ship over there.
Where is he?
Well, I love Mitch McConnell's fine, but at the end of the day, if they don't give him $5 billion, he should insist they do because it's a reasonable amount of money to continue progress on securing the border.
But we do have control of the Congress until January the 3rd.
You could, through reconciliation, pass money appropriated for border security as a standalone proposition.
I don't like doing things like this, but I don't see an option to it if they don't work with us.
No, I agree with that wholeheartedly.
I think you're right.
I guess my biggest fear is that this opportunity is going to pass.
Look, you're going to have a bigger majority in January for the Senate, but the House is never going to go along with it.
So this is a short window that we have available here for us, correct?
January the 3rd.
So, you know, I want to be home for Christmas and all that good stuff.
And listen, it's not like I haven't tried to work with Democrats to fix a broken immigration system.
But here's the frustration for a guy like me.
You know, I've had my ass kicked trying to fix this problem, and Trump is right about the caravan.
Because Trump says it doesn't mean it's wrong.
He's right to stand up to the caravan and to draw a red line in the sand that we're not going to allow asylum laws to be abused anymore.
You're not going to come to America, get released, and never show up for your hearing.
You're going to stay on the Mexican side of the border.
And to the mayor of Tijuana, if you ever listen to this program, you've got a friend in Lynce Graham.
And I think Sean Hannity is the mayor of Tijuana, Mexico that's the biggest advocate for why the caravans not working.
You know, we pretty much know what is going to happen in the House next year.
Democrats, they're going to be investigating, investigating.
Nancy Pelosi said that their first bill is that President Trump must release his taxes.
That's not going anywhere in the U.S. Senate.
So the president who campaigned for Marsha Blackburn and Governor Kemp elect in Georgia and DeSantis and Scott and helped defeat Claire McCaskill with Josh Hawley and helped defeat Joe Donnelly with Braun and helped defeat Heidi Heitkamp.
That's now going to pay huge dividends for him having the Senate.
You are very clear.
If the Democrats go down the road of endless nonstop investigation, you're all right with that because you're just going to do the same thing in the Senate.
What do you mean by that specifically?
Well, let's just play this out.
Okay.
McCabe lied about matters that allowed him to be fired.
Nobody has threatened to put him in jail to have him talk more about what he knows about the 25th Amendment and all that other stuff.
So the zeal that Mueller has to break people to try to find out if they know more than they're telling us was never present during the FBI-DOJ debacle.
We never had a special counsel.
So if you're going to spend all of your time in the House looking at 2016 and looking at Trump, I'm in charge of the Judiciary Committee.
Ron Johnson's in charge of Homeland Security.
We've got plenty of opportunity to look at McCabe, Comey, Lynch, all of these people about what they did with the FISA warrant and what they did about the Clinton email investigation.
What about Uranium 1?
What we'll all play it?
Well, I mean, I think you can start with, I think, the exoneration of Hillary.
I mean, she clearly, with that mom and pop shop bathroom closet server of hers, violated the Espionage Act.
Why do I think, Senator, that if I had subpoenaed emails and I deleted them and I cleaned my hard drive with bleach pit and I broke up my devices and I had to go before your committee, why do I think you guys would probably handcuff me right there and send me to jail for the rest of my life?
Well, number one, don't try this at home.
Try the turkey thing, but don't try the Clint email thing.
It's not going to work out.
Well, how come it works out for her?
How do you get to convince?
You know, she paid for Russian lies that were disseminated to the American people.
How many people you are?
So here's what I'm going to do.
The FISA warrant process seems to have been abused, that the Democratic Party, along with Clinton, paid a foreign agent to collect information against President candidate Trump or an agent that was used to get a warrant, and none of the information is reliable.
How could you get multiple warrants, much less one?
If we don't find out what happened there, then we're letting the whole system down.
So I'm going to look at that.
Senator, you wrote a memo co-authored with Senator Grassley, and it's the Grassley-Graham memo.
I don't know why he got top pilling.
You need to talk about that.
And I think that the bulk of information for the FISA warrants was the phony dossier.
Isn't that a fraud committed on a FISA court and they purposely didn't tell the court that she paid for it?
Well, where is the FISA court's outrage, number one?
Number two, if there was a paid informant, a confidential informant used as a counterintelligence operation that was paid to talk to the Trump campaign about connections to Russia, what did the confidential informant find and why wasn't that information used to get a warrant?
So here's what I'm suggesting to you, that the confidential informant used by the FBI to look at the Trump campaign didn't find anything about Russia, because if he had, it would have been part of the warrant application to surveill Carter Page.
Well, I think you're right on all accounts.
And the only thing that I might add is the Uranium One debacle.
You know, we had infiltrated Putin's network.
You know that Hillary got the kickbacks to the Clinton Foundation.
You know that Robert Mueller just happened to be the FBI director and the FBI infiltrator was informing his bosses that bribery, extortion, money laundering, and kickbacks were going on.
And they still approved that Uranium One deal, 20% of our uranium, you know, ending up really in Putin's hands.
And they knew everything.
I mean, what people on your program believed is that when it came to Clinton misconduct, there was really no zealous effort to find the truth, that the people investigating Clinton headed out for Trump and wanted her to win, that the FISA warrant was more political than it was legal, and that that whole group got a pass, and that they're going after Trump like there's no tomorrow.
And I don't know how you tell people that they're not right to believe that.
I'm going to have to let you go here, Senator.
We do appreciate what you're doing.
I think you're going to be working pretty hard next year.
Hope you get some downtime over Christmas and maybe we'll get that reconciliation bill first.
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No matter what you've heard, if you like your doctor or healthcare plan, you can keep it.
Under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
It not only means making sure you can keep your family's doctor or keep your health care plan if you like it, but also that you can afford to do so.
My Republican opponents will try to equate health care for all Americans with government-run health care.
Well, don't let them fool us again.
We're going to put in any legislation considered by the House and Senate the protection of you as an individual to keep the health insurance you have if that's what you want.
If you like what you have, you will be able to keep it.
Mr. President, let me say this again.
If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by our president, you will be able to keep it.
There's multiple choices that are being discussed right now.
But the first thing is, first of all, that is critical is that if you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that.
If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want, the idea is to make sure you keep it, that you can keep who you want, that we keep that patient-doctor relationship very strong.
The Senate Health Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee crafted a bill that ensures that people who like their insurance and their doctors keep them.
Let me make clear: I'm not going to support a health care reform plan that's going to take away health care that you've got right now or a health care plan that you like.
Well, those individuals who like the coverage they already have will be able to keep their current plan.
This is a very accurate description of this bill before us, the Patient Protection and Affordability Act.
It's very accurate.
Our goal is to have a system first.
If you like the insurance that you have, you can choose to keep it.
But if you don't have insurance or you're dissatisfied with insurance, you'll have options, including a public option in which we're trying to construct.
What we're seeing now is that patients are actually coming to our practice not only from all over the state of Florida, but they're coming to our practice from out of the state of Florida.
They're coming across the country.
We're even having patients coming to us from out of the country for affordable medical care.
We've recently seen an inbound case of medical tourism into the United States through our practice for affordable surgical services because we've negotiated cash bundled price surgeries in an inpatient facility in a rural hospital in Florida.
So we're very happy that the committee is interested in exploring direct primary care.
Again, there are now about a thousand practices nationwide that are practicing in this model.
This is a growing model.
Most of that growth has occurred really within the past few years.
We believe that this is a way for most people to get access to the care that they need.
And if surrounded by a catastrophic major medical plan, the combination of affordable access with no kill pays, no deductibles for the routine care, for the routine chronic disease management, if you then bundle that with an affordable major medical wraparound option for the unpredictable, let's make the predictable affordable for everybody.
Let's make routine care affordable for everybody, regardless of insurance status.
If we can provide that level of care to most people, then we can find ways to afford and pay for the unexpected.
All right, that was testimony before Congress.
And you know what's fascinating?
We have had Dr. Lee S. Gross on the program a number of times.
And of course, Dr. Josh Humber, founder, Atlas MD.
And this is, you know, we always talk about what are the real alternatives.
Well, what about concierge care for every American, adults, 50 bucks a month and kids 10 bucks a month, unlimited visits.
You know, he directly negotiates with pharmaceuticals 95% discount.
You leave the doctor's office and you need high blood pressure medicine, you take it with you.
You need cholesterol medicine, you take it with you.
You need whatever the medicine happens to be, you take it with you.
And that's how they're doing it.
And they've been able now to duplicate this just almost a thousand practices, 50 bucks a month.
Now, is that all the insurance you need?
No.
You would need a little catastrophic care with a high deductible, and that's for the, uh-oh, what happens if I get cancer?
Or what happens if I have a heart attack?
Well, what happens if I have a bad accident and I get injured severely?
Well, that's what catastrophic insurance is about.
And it's very inexpensive, depending how high a deductible you're willing to take.
And you get concierge care for blue collar America.
It's just an amazing deal.
You call your doctor three in the morning, somebody's going to pick up the phone.
You need medicine?
They've got it in the doctor's office.
I mean, and it's working all over the country.
Anyway, so that was actual testimony that took place this week before the Senate.
Interestingly, you know, a couple of senators were missing.
Pocahontas.
Elizabeth Warren didn't show up.
Bernie Sanders didn't bother showing up.
Now, there was a full committee hearing on reducing health care costs, improving affordability through innovation.
And I keep telling you that these healthcare cooperatives are going to be the single best way to super serve every American's health needs, and it's going to be affordable.
And one idea Lindsey Graham has is maybe we block grant healthcare funding to the states and they can be, you know, 50 states of varying innovation.
Now, if California wants to use it for their free, free, free model, good luck with that.
But we're not paying any more than we're paying for the people in Alabama and Georgia and Florida and Ohio and Wisconsin.
Anyway, Dr. Lee, who testified, is here with us.
Now, I understand that Dr. Josh Umber is on strike today because he feels he's done my show for free all these many years, and he's now saying either I pay him or he's not coming back.
What's that all about?
Yeah, Josh can get a little bit stubborn that way, but I think he'll happily come back on.
Yeah, that's a fantastic introduction into the hearing and the exciting work that we're doing in direct primary care around the country.
I mean, this really was a fantastic opportunity for these senators to explore what choice and competition and freedom and price transparency can really do to unlock and embolden the American consumer in the U.S. healthcare system.
I'm going to try and get you.
I know I was able to get Newt Gingrich's attention, and Newt went absolutely wild with the idea.
How many Atlas MDs have you been able to duplicate, these cooperatives around the country where patients are paying 50 bucks a month for adults, 10 bucks a month for kids, 95% reductions in medicines, and that includes stitches and broken bones and simple, you know, that includes a lot, but it doesn't include, you know, major surgeries.
Yeah, so there's absolutely a tremendous amount that can be done by our primary care doctor in terms of managing diabetes.
We talk about pre-existing conditions, chronic care management, so many things that can be done at the primary care level.
It's fascinating.
And, you know, so our practice in Florida is Epiphany Health, but there are now over a thousand practices nationwide.
We just held a conference in Orlando, Florida to teach doctors how to do this.
And we have 380 physicians from 40 states come to learn how to do this.
We increased the exposure to the practices by 30% nationwide in just a single weekend.
So, you know, the growth in the practice model, the interest in doing this by physicians is astronomical because the physicians are being burnt out by the current system.
They can't keep up with it.
They don't want to practice it.
The patients don't like it.
And everybody is really excited about this model.
The cost of it.
By the way, you were right.
Dr. Umber is giving up his strike.
I heard you were on strike after coming on the show for free all these years and that you wanted to get paid and you weren't coming back until I started paying you.
Students who said check never came.
Well, let me ask you, when I mentioned Atlas MD in Wichita, Kansas, do people hear about it on KNSS and then go and call you and say they want to sign up?
Oh, absolutely.
Every time.
I mean, I'm building your business and you still want more money.
I'm not getting a piece of that action.
No, we are always grateful for all that you've done for us at the movie.
Well, in all seriousness, so I love Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth, you know, Pocahontas Warren don't show up.
What's that about?
They don't really want answers, I guess.
Their answer is a top-down government-run system.
You think that's going to work?
Look at Obamacare and look at how we treated our vets.
Well, you know, one of the things that we've seen is that, you know, if the answer doesn't fit with their proposed solution, then they don't want to hear it, even if it's working.
Yeah.
Dr. Umber, what do you think?
You now have been to Congress a lot.
I know Newt Gingrich, you piqued his interest majorly.
He's been asking me a ton of questions about it.
Have you gotten to the White House yet with this?
We're hoping to soon.
Yeah, well, I think I know people that work there.
I might make a call for you and see if I can make that happen.
Because I think it would really, actually, that's what changed the course of the year.
Put that down on my list of things to do, Linda, as if it's not long enough.
But I'll get, no, I'm serious.
I will make that call because I just think this is the answer and coupled with healthcare savings accounts, catastrophic care.
It would transform the medical system in the entire country.
Look, but I'm sure like when you say not, when you say unlimited coverage, there's got to be that those five or ten people that call you every day, right?
Well, you know, there's some people who will go through times where they need a lot more care and people will go for months not needing the care.
So you know, it balances itself pretty well, but we're really excited about the fact that there's a split.
You're being so diplomatic.
You don't want to talk about crazy, you know, Aunt Sally down the block that's 92 and calls you every day and says, my foot hurts, my little toe.
I have patients that email me every day.
And thankfully, you know, we can fix the margins.
But the bottom line is I do think most people are like me.
I get an annual checkup and I frankly don't want to go to that.
And my doctor makes me do it or else he's a friend of mine and he's a black belt and I'm only a brown belt or else he says he's going to come over and kick my ass.
I think, yeah, it's most people need a reasonable amount of care, but membership model kind of leverages it out.
I don't watch Netflix every day, but some people do.
But they can offer this huge value for a very reasonable fee because it blends itself into the middle.
And like Dr. Lee said, I think politics, if it doesn't fit into their preconceived goal, they don't want it.
But this is actually working.
All right, two people that I know I'm going to get you in touch with.
I'm going to make sure that you talk to Lindsey Graham.
And the second thing I'm going to do is I'm going to find somebody in the White House that might take my call.
And I'm going to see if we can't get the Health and Human Services Secretary to at least look at this.
Look, I know the Democrats are only really caring about destroying the president, but it would be nice if we could actually solve some problems and help Americans that desperately need it.
I know the president is allowing state waivers as it relates to the burdensome regulations of Obamacare.
That was a big thing that happened this week that nobody paid attention to, which probably is good.
He's moving the needle for us on short-term insurance plans that would actually be perfect for this kind of model.
You know, full coverage for major accidents.
But like Dr. Lee said, let's make the predictable affordable.
And we can do that.
So there's real solutions that could be implemented essentially today for citizens across the country, help them save money, improve their lives, improve their health.
Yeah, and it's weird to think there's an actual fix.
We've been talking about the health care problem for decades, and people almost don't really expect it to be fixed.
All right, I got to let you both go.
But Dr. Umber, as always, thank you.
Dr. Lee Gross, thank you.
Appreciate you both being with us and all you do.
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Anyways, I've been listening to you faithfully for four years, every day, your night show and your radio show, and longer before that, intermittently.
I haven't heard an idea that I have, and I don't know if it's feasible or not.
With the corruption in the Department of Justice, the people that are demanded to appear, they don't appear, they appear, they lie.
Everything that's going on with all the corruption.
What about does President Trump have the authority to have the JAG in the military do a tribunal and investigate the Department of Justice that way, where Congress?
Well, again, that would be within the realm of the executive branch of the government, which he is the head of.
Yeah, he would.
And look, I think the president has been, look, he could have fired Mueller.
He could, and he could do it legally.
Alan Dershowitz said it yesterday.
He could fire Rosenstein.
He could have done that at any point.
He didn't.
And I think the president, wisely, as frustrating as this all is, and as time consuming and as expensive and as frankly duplicitous in the double standard and the phoniness of it all, I know it frustrates me.
It's got to frustrate him a lot more.
We've exposed so much, you know, so many real examples from Uranium One through Hillary Clinton and the phony, fraudulent Russian dossier she paid for.
And all they're fixated on is Trump.
And just like, you know, a lot of the people on the Senate Judiciary Committee, you know, were saying, I believe, but they didn't believe Keith Dellison's girlfriend when she said she was physically and emotionally abused not 36 years ago, but recently.
You know, so they didn't believe, you know, the Avenatti story, and Avenatti brought forward a woman that they've said they believed.
You know, so it's not about the issue.
It's really about does it benefit them politically?
And, you know, to expose such hypocrisy, it's like, you know, fishing in a barrel.
It's easy.
It's simple.
You're going to catch them.
Oh, I heard you like the product, Jewel.
You like Jewel?
I do like Jewel.
I bought it about a week ago.
It's great, isn't it?
It's awesome.
I really appreciate you putting that out there and endorsing that.
Yeah, some people got mad at me, and I'm like, well, I quit smoking cigars.
And, you know, Jewel is to, it's just the perfect.
Look, I see all these people outside of New York buildings all the time, all smoking cigarettes, right?
They stink, they smell, they've got additives, they've got tar.
You know, it's just to me, personally, it's just, you know, if you have that urge, it's like a cup of coffee to me.
That's how I look at it.
It just, if I do it four hours a day on radio and on TV, and I love it.
It's great.
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Who says he's from Pueblos Infronteras?
He's saying that he's one of the leaders of the cabin.
Well, why don't the federal police say, hey, hey, come on here.
You're in charge of putting people in risk.
Let's take care of them in a legally way.
We have a message for President Ferlando to Honduras.
Yes.
Get yourself back to work.
Do things right.
If you were elected or you're imposed by someone, well, do what they expect to do from you.
What would your message be for the incoming Mexican president, Lopez Obador?
It's a problem he must solve as soon as he gets into office.
All right, news roundup information overload hour.
By the way, we'll have more coverage of the Mueller sentencing filings as it relates to the Cone and Manafort cases.
And of course, more on Gome's testimony as leaks come out of that meeting.
I wonder what he had to say about, oh, the sentencing of Lieutenant General Flynn, who never lied under oath.
He didn't think so.
McCabe didn't think so.
Strzok didn't think so.
But yet he was forced to plead guilty to that.
And obviously, the strong-arm tactics of the Mueller team had to be responsible for all of that.
We'll get back to that in a second.
You just heard from the mayor of Tijuana speaking out against the caravan.
Joining us, Jonathan Gillum, former Navy SEAL, Federal Air Marshal, FBI agent, author of Sheep No More, Maria Elvira, Cuban-American journalist and broadcaster, and has worked, by the way, with Univision Telemundo.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Maria, you know, everybody had said in the beginning when this caravan started and we saw people on the southern border of Mexico breaking down fences and walking right past security and police and the military down to Mexico that this was a big problem.
There's still thousands of people there.
Some have now decided to turn around and go home because the president says you're not getting into the country.
And the question is, why did Mexico allow it to be handled this way?
Well, because, and thank you for having me on your show.
Mexico has a big problem right now, and it's the first time that they are really encountering what we have been suffering for many years because this administration decided not to allow these people to get in.
At the same time, Mexico now needs to understand, and I think that they're coming to the realization that they need to put a stop on their southern border.
So Mexico, Lopez Obador, and President have the same problem, which is trying to determine what are they going to do with this wave of immigrants trying to either come into Mexico or into the United States.
But I want to repeat, Mr. Hannity, exactly what I've been saying all along.
We're going to have a caravan and we're going to have many more caravans because people are desperate in Central America.
That does not mean that we need to allow everybody in.
We should only let people that have a legitimate claim for asylum, legitimate claim for asylum.
If I have been raped five times by a gang in Honduras, that could be grounds for letting local people.
But when you get to Mexico, why aren't people applying for asylum there?
And I know that early on that the Mexican government even offered work permits for some of the migrant caravan members.
And nobody really, there were no takers of that.
The goal was really to get to the United States, which I understand.
Absolutely.
But don't you ask?
They should stay.
They should stay in Mexico.
But don't you ask them because Mexico, uh-huh, tell me.
Well, Mexico, by the way, usually they have far more stricter and stringent policies on illegal immigrants than we do because they either put them in jail or send them right back.
And there's no chance they ever get to stay anyway.
So, you know, to get lectured by Mexico again and again on illegal immigration is a joke to me.
But wouldn't a wall that was built that was impenetrable, wouldn't it be good for the safety and the security of people on all sides?
In other words, if people in Central America, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, if they see that wall and they're not going to be able to get over that wall, they're not going to make the thousand-plus mile trek on foot to even attempt it.
So they would then go through the proper process, wouldn't they?
Oh, I agreed that the wall will stock thousands of them, but we have history cases that walls, either in France or the Romans, the wall didn't stop everybody that wanted to come here.
But I agree, but then I think it's not only the wall, Mr. Hannity.
We need more solutions, the wall, or maybe a strict border security, more border patrol, more infrastructure and more infrared cameras, night vision cameras, more people, but at the same time, more visas for those that are coming in because our market is demanding that.
Our labor market needs those people that are trying to come in.
So you see, and then at the same time, see what type of legality we're going to give to those people that are here already.
And then go talk to the Mexicans and the Nicaraguans and the Guatemalans and El Salvador and ask their people, their presidents, how can we keep your people home?
In which way we can help you.
So it's many-pronged.
And I'm sure that you agree.
The wall or high border security is just one of the topics that we need to talk about.
It's comprehensive.
It's a wide immigration.
And this is the only president that has dared to come forth and say we need to put the house in order.
That's why he's being branded as a racist, because the other governments, the Clinton administration and the Obama administration, didn't dare to do.
And because of the fear for international condemnation, because of the liberal press, because of the criticism.
So you see, but at the same time, it's not what we're doing.
But I think at least you know, Jonathan, we've had in the last week, we had the death of this young teacher in Texas by a violent felon that had committed crimes in America, was let out.
We have one illegal immigrant deported eight times before he murdered a co-worker of his.
This is in the state of Washington.
We learned just recently from the Washington Examiner that Obama had authorized $300 million taxpayer dollars to pay for free legal advice to illegal immigrants.
The Census Bureau says 63% of non-residents, non-citizens rather, are on some type of welfare.
And there was a study that came out that showed that on average, an illegal immigrant is costing $70,000 a year per person in this country.
And that includes the healthcare system, educational system, and the criminal justice system.
That's an awful lot of money.
And it seems like the wall in the end would be well worth the investment.
We'd save money and we wouldn't have to worry so much about criminal elements if we were able to vet people.
There's absolutely no doubt about that.
And, you know, I really, really like what Elvira is saying about the comprehensive approach because a lot of these, excuse me, what Maria Elvira is saying, I love your name, by the way.
And I know why she doesn't work for CNN or for the other channel anymore either, because you make sense.
I used to work for CNN as well for a little while.
So you make a lot of sense.
And the comprehensive approach is what it's all about.
Not just building a wall, but what about changing policy?
Look at, for instance, Sean, when we look at the State Department and the policies that are entrenched in the State Department when it comes to people coming over from the Middle East.
You know, you have places like Djibouti and places where people can't necessarily get to the country.
So they go to other countries to integrate and try to come over here.
And they don't have the ability to even run fingerprints in some of those places or to run databases from the DOD to see if anybody has ever been involved in any type of a terrorist incident.
We don't have the ability to do that because they won't share it, not because the technology doesn't exist.
These are policy issues.
And a lot of the times, those things aren't even checked until 10 years later after they get here.
It's the same problem that you have with the southern border: for years, well, really up until now, no one has truly tried to fix the problem.
And if you spent any time in Central South America, Sean, you spent time at the border.
You pointed out all these things about the border.
Well, what's interesting about Central South America is you go from the border down, and many of the countries are no different than where the border is.
People are trying to move from one place to another.
They're trying to, but they don't have the money to migrate.
And that's another thing that's very odd about this: how this group suddenly had money to move thousands and thousands of people thousands of miles.
That doesn't exist.
They are that poor.
But we have to have policies where if you're going to build a wall, why not build military bases down there by the wall and have exercises down there so we have a military presence?
Why not build in certain areas where there's going to be a wall where there's known people that come across, why aren't we using trained law enforcement dogs in those areas?
More for threat deterrent.
These are things that work at military bases, which if you try to sneak onto a military base, you're going to get caught, especially if you do it as a group of people.
Why aren't we putting the same technology into that?
We've put military bases all over this country.
Why not build them into the wall?
And I think that in that area, we have mountains, we have deserts, we have swamp regions, great training, great place for the military to be stationed so they can start doing this type of training.
And that quickly, let me ask you, Maria.
Yeah, no, I think those are all good ideas.
Maria, what happened to you when you worked at Univision, Telemundo, and Fake News CNN?
Well, I worked before the Trump era, but I tell you, I was working for Mega TV, which is the third regional network, U.S. Spanish network in the United States.
And I can tell you, and I'm not sure, I don't know how this is going to sound, but this is the truth: that President Trump is not loved by Spanish television.
That's the truth.
I had serious problems with producers because they did not like the guy.
And I kept on saying, it's not that I like him or not.
I did not hire him to be my spiritual pastor.
I hired him to solve the problem in the country.
He's not always right, but when he is not, we have to be respectful because you know why?
The sanctity of the American electoral system is sacred to us.
You know why?
Because my parents are political refugees from Cuba.
And everybody, including Central America and Venezuela, and Cuba and Argentina, would love to have the American electoral system.
And that system happened to have chosen Mr. Trump.
He won by the rules.
Therefore, we need to respect him.
There's no way that I believe that as journalists, we can be saying that he is this and he is that.
I don't even want to repeat the words that we have heard on other networks.
But big why?
Because we have points of reference.
Because first-generation Americans understand and we're generous and we love the country.
We want to keep the system the way it is for the future of your children and my children.
So that's why I had serious problems.
And I'm telling you, Mr. Hannity, that we need to, and I'm sending this message to my friends in Spanish television.
We need to stop this and start covering the news and not the man.
We'll take a break.
We'll come back on the other side.
Maria Elvira is with us, broadcast journalists that work for CNN, Univision, Telemundo, Jonathan Gillam, who we all know very well.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue at the bottom of this half hour.
We'll get right to the phones.
800-941-Sean is our number as we continue.
All right, as we continue with Jonathan Gillam and Maria Elvira, Cuban-American journalist, and she's worked for Univision, Telemundo, CNN.
I want to just one last point.
Then I'll let Jonathan respond to what we were just talking about.
Do you believe you were targeted because you did not share a certain political belief that was dominant at these networks?
Well, I don't know if, and I'm sure you recall, I just finished running for district number 27 in Florida.
I was the opposite.
I wanted you to win.
Yes.
I was hoping you were going to win.
And thank you very much for that.
And we almost did it.
And I proved to everybody, including my party, that you could be a Hispanic, a conservative, a woman in a blue district and not denounce or criticize or insult the president and still come two points away from the president of the Clinton Foundation, who was my opponent, Mrs. Donna Shalala.
She was not only the president of the Clinton Foundation, but she was also the longest serving member under the Clinton president.
Well, I'm not going to, listen, I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to let you give up.
The only mistake I could tell you that you made is we have, we had tried, Linda, right?
How many times did we try to get Maria on this program?
We wanted to go to the moment.
We just kept missing each other.
We wanted to tell her on when she was running.
We wanted to help your campaign.
We were watching it very closely, and you did run a great race.
You know, I just think, Jonathan, at the end of the day, everything unfortunately gets broken down demographically.
And I understand it.
It's part of the way things get measured.
But at the end of the day, we're all Americans here.
And as Americans, absolutely.
And we are more Americans sometimes than you are.
You know why?
Because we love the system.
Because I repeat it, we have a point of reference.
We know how bad it looks.
Listen, we take for granted, I will concur.
We take for granted the liberties and freedoms we have.
Jonathan, we'll give you the last word.
You know, I grew up extremely poor in Arkansas, Sean.
And the way this country is set up and what makes it so great is that I'm not still poor.
I work my way out of that.
You know, I did all these things and I set my mind to becoming all these things and I've done that.
If I lived in Central South America, I'd still be poor.
And why is that?
Because there is a stronghold of criminality amongst the politicians.
And it's the same way.
I know this sounds totally political, but the Democratic Party in this country is the same way.
They look at you as this way, not that way, and they want you to stay that way.
And that's why I think when we look at individuals like Maria and what she did standing up down there, we have to look at them as warriors and we have to stand behind them.
And I keep saying that about conservatives in this country.
You know, if we're going to allow the globalists to continue, it's going to go downhill.
Yeah, this is a battle for the heart and soul of the future of the country.
It's a tipping point, and that's what we're fighting for every day.
You know, what America do we want to leave to our kids and our grandkids?
All right.
Thanks, Maria.
We'll talk again.
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He's got a sit in La La, Geechi, Gitchy, I got blue.
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And the late Charles Cox are looking for me too.
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My mama died, and my sister cried.
They were 13 children breeze.
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I could fight and shoot before I was 10 years old.
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My daddy had a skill at the top of Beauty Hill till the departation come by.
He met him at the door with a 44 and he shot him right between the eyes.
Said he to his liquor in a shallow grave.
He dug it into pouring rain.
Daddy said, Son, I'm gonna have to run.
I'm leaving on the midnight train.
But before I go, I want you to know what's flowing in your mind.
Bad blood.
He said, It's time you knew what's coming to you.
Like my daddy passed on to me.
All right, that's the new album, the new CD.
Our good friend Charlie Daniels, the legend, Bo Evil's songs in the key of E, and his new book, by the way, also out, Let's All Make the Day Count out this holiday season.
A patriot, a dear, dear, dear friend, a friend of America's bravest, and those that give the most that he gives back the most.
Charlie Daniels, how are you, my friend?
What's going on?
It's so good to talk to you, my buddy.
So I love the new album.
It sounds like you've gone back to your hardcore, bluesy roots in the CD.
I've been listening to it, and I love it.
We've done that.
That's just another facet of my musical personality, you know.
I ain't no telling what I'm going to get into in the next few years.
You know, I guess this is probably.
So I went to see Zach Brown.
I met him and I love his band and I happen to like his music.
And during the night, he played Devil, went down to Georgia.
Yeah, he does a good job on it.
Well, he does better than me.
Let's put it that way.
Anyone could do better than me.
Nobody does better than Charlie Daniels.
Nobody does better than Charlie.
You know, and the funny thing is, is you once told me, you know, you kind of sped it up over the years.
I don't know if that was by design or what he takes speeding it up on steroids.
It was hilarious.
Well, you know, you were talking about singing it a while ago.
Nobody ever had more fun doing that song than you did.
And you did your impersonation of Garth Brooks on the steroids.
I was afraid you're going to hurt yourself, man.
I was running around the stage like a madman and throwing out footballs, banging on the drums.
And all your guys are looking at me like, Charlie, what did you let this maniac up here for to ruin our signature song?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
I love you, man.
You have the best guys.
You know, it's so funny.
You have something that you have found in your life that has connected people since I was a kid.
I mean, I grew up on Southern Rock.
I loved it.
I mean, the Allman Brothers and Leonard Skinner and Marshall Tucker and you and all these great, great bands that have been out there for, you know, and but you're the longest standing and you and continuous standing.
I mean, you still do over 100 dates every year, don't you?
Oh, yeah.
We'll do 108 this year, in fact.
But, you know, Sean, I'm the same way about this.
You are.
You love getting in front of a microphone and talking to people.
I love to get in front of a microphone, entertaining people.
I mean, it's the same thing.
I love what I do.
And when you love what you do, you don't mind going to work.
You hear people say, I hate to go to work.
I never hate to go to work.
I always look forward to it.
You know, the thing is, do you have the same experience?
Because when I first got on the radio and that light went on, this, whatever, whoever I am, it just comes out.
I don't know.
I don't even know where it comes from.
My father, one day, before he died, he said, where does all this come from?
Where did this come from?
He never understood it.
You're very fortunate to have found yourself in that way, to be original, because it took me a while to do that.
I was five albums in before I ever let myself sing like myself.
Explain that.
What do you mean by that?
Well, you know, when you first start in the music business, I don't know how it is on radio, but it's been you start in clubs and stuff.
You're playing copy music, and the closer you sound to somebody else's record, the better off you are.
So you try to sound like them.
So when I started doing original recordings, I kept hearing bits and pieces of everybody else's voice, other people's voices coming out of my voice.
Finally, when we got to Fire on the Mountain in 1974, I said, I'm going to open my mouth, and whatever comes out is me.
And I've been doing that ever since.
And you discover yourself.
It's what you did.
You found out who Sean Hannity is.
Let me tell you, it was a process, too, because I was a kid that listened to late night talk radio, these pioneers.
I stay in touch with my friend Barry Farber and, you know, a more acerbic Bob Grant.
And, you know, originally, you know, I would try to be, you know, controversial like them.
Yeah, get off my phone, you creep.
You know, and I, but it wasn't my natural style.
And, you know, you just figure it out over time.
Just, it comes out.
You can't fake it four hours a day.
I'm on air four hours a day.
You can't fake it in a two-hour show.
No way.
No way.
I totally agree, but you found yourself.
You're very fortunate.
You're very blessed.
Very blessed.
When somebody hears you, Sean, that's the thing about it, too.
When somebody hears you, they know who you are.
You don't say five words, but whatever.
But that's Sean Hannity.
That's exactly.
By the way, some people say, the next words out of their mouth is, I can't stand that guy.
No, no, no.
You'd be surprised.
You know something?
I was thinking today, you're like a lighthouse in the stormy sea, man.
You listen to all this stuff.
You get so down and out.
You turn you on.
You never give up.
You never back up.
You never can't.
You can't.
You keep on.
No, I know you can't.
That's what's so wonderful about you.
We can always depend on you, man.
We've always got to stand on.
And I know you're a very spiritual guy.
And I know I could probably learn a lot from you, but I don't know why, but I do.
I love this country so much.
And I know what works.
We all know what works.
And we still make mistakes and put people in office that we know their policies are going to fail.
People are going to get hurt.
And everything is basically comes down to simple, God-given common sense.
It's not that deep or profound.
You don't need a PhD from Harvard.
And I just, and there's so much corrupt, there's such a corrupt nature in Washington and especially the news media.
I take great delight being different from them and calling them out.
Well, you are totally different from them, and you do call them out, and you do stand for what you believe in.
You stand on your principles.
And that's hard to find these days, Sean.
You know that.
I mean, somebody, you're not wishy-washy.
You don't go with the polls.
You don't go with the subject azure or whatever that happens to be.
You try to find out the truth.
And when you find out the truth, you stick with it.
And that's highly unusual this day and age.
And we need that.
We need that, sonny.
We appreciate you a whole lot.
Well, you know what?
The greatest compliment you can get is Charlie Daniels is on his bus.
And I got an email from Charlie Daniels Jr. saying, me and dad are watching your show.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know.
That means I'm doing my job.
I don't get to listen to you every day.
I'm out doing stuff, but Charlie, he's got you on every single finish, man.
He's a good kid.
Well, you know.
I wish, you know, if I do wish one thing, and God gives everybody gifts, the thing that I can tell you doing radio and TV, and I did one movie recently, I want to do another one.
But the thing that I love about music and movies is you can touch people's hearts in ways that you can't just by verbal or communication.
There's something, you know, you do songs sometimes, patriotic songs, and I look out in the audience and people are crying.
I mean, you get to them that deep down in their heart and their soul and their solar plexus.
When you see that, what is that?
How does that make you feel?
I feel great.
I feel really great.
I feel like I'm doing something.
It's not a puffed up feeling.
It's a very humble feeling.
And I keep running into guys that say, I saw you in Ramadi.
I saw you in such and such a place in this part of the world, that part of the world.
And that means a lot to me.
You know, these guys, when you go among these guys, and you've been among them, Sean, you know what I'm talking about.
They appreciate the fact that you're just there and you're proving you're an American man.
You love this country enough to do the things you do and to say the things you say.
And people understand.
People know if you're serious about it or not.
So you're talking about my songs.
I am dead serious about them.
You know, when I say if I enemies don't believe that, they all go straight to hell or something like that.
I mean, I mean, I don't go to hell, but obviously, you know what I mean?
Well, let me ask you about that.
Because you're not afraid to share your opinions.
And some, no, you know, and by the way, rule 101 of your an entertainer is you probably shouldn't do it because you'll alienate some potential audience.
I've been hearing that all my career.
I can't do that.
You know, I can't live by that.
I got to be made.
I don't do it on stage.
I don't do politics on stage.
I mean, people buy tickets to hear me entertained.
And that's what I do.
But I mean, other than playing the songs that I believe in.
But if somebody asked my opinion about something, I'm going to state it.
And everybody should.
This would be a totally, completely different country if everybody would just express their opinions and not some piece of stuff they've heard somebody repeat.
How much stuff do you get in your email that is nothing but just a rewrite of truth races and things?
You know, people cliche, yeah.
And if you found that the word racist and the word bigot, the word fascist don't mean anything anymore because it's used by people who have no idea what it means.
It's like, yeah, I say this every two and four years at the beginning of every election season.
Get ready.
They're going to play.
It's going to be racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic.
Republicans, conservatives want dirty air, water.
They want to kill grandma and kill kids.
I mean, that's the same playbook.
But let me say this.
One of the great honors of my life and my career, and one of the highlights is getting to know you, somebody that I just idolized growing up and love your music, still love it today.
I love this new CD that you're putting out, Bo Weevils.
We're going to throw it up on Hannity.com.
You got your new book out, too.
Let's all make the day count.
You have a very strong spiritual belief in God and Christ, and you help people in ways that I wish I could take a whole hour to just go through the list and not even detail it.
You're a great American and a great friend, sir.
You are a great friend, and I am so proud.
And thank God I can call you that, my friend.
You keep on going.
Keep doing what you do.
We need to.
How are your volunteers doing this year?
Alabama is not going to be beat.
I'm just telling you.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
Charlie takes his football seriously, man.
Don't mess with him on game day.
No, no.
But, you know, we had a bad year, but SEC football is the greatest, man.
You got two FTC teams beating it out to bar, Georgia and Alabama.
We'll see what happens.
Well, Linda will tell you a story offline about my oldest in a minute.
But Charlie Daniels, thank you so much for being with us.
We love you.
We have it up on Hannity.com, Bo Weevils, and the accompanying book you want to get to.
Great gift for Christmas as well.
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...was fired for lying multiple times within the FBI.
You defended his character on Twitter.
That's okay.
Lying is okay internally.
No, it's definitely not.
In fact, the McCabe case illustrates what an organization that's committed to the truth looks like.
We investigate and hold, I ordered that investigation.
We investigate and hold people accountable.
Good people lie.
I lay out in the book, I think I'm a good person where I've lied.
I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person, but the Inspector General found that he lied, and there's severe consequences in the Justice Department for lying, as there should be throughout the government.
Well, I did see the president at the Phoenix airport the other night as I was landing.
He was headed out.
He did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and talk about his grandchildren and his travels and things like that.
So that was the extent of that.
No discussions were held in any cases or anything of that.
And he didn't raise anything about that either.
President's tweeted innumerable times, calling you a leaker.
What's your response to President Trump?
Look, it's true.
I mean, I'm the one who testified about it.
That's how people know about it.
I gave that unclassified memo to my friend and asked him to give it to a reporter.
That is entirely appropriate.
It's not appropriate when it's classified information.
That would be under the Espionage Act, 18 U.S.C. 793.
You look at every single thing that now has happened to General Flynn.
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All right, so we have these different codes and laws that make it unlawful to send or to store classified information on personal email.
That is not in dispute for Hillary Clinton.
And I want you to think through this through the prism of a 33-year serviceman, three-star by the name of Lieutenant General Flynn, because all the other people that supposedly lied, that committed crimes, they haven't been in jeopardy in the last year as we have been peeling away every single layer of the onion.
You know, you just start at the beginning, Executive Order 1352618 USC 793.
The federal code makes it unlawful to send or store classified information on personal email.
Okay, well, James Comey admitted to that too, doing his own personal business on his private email.
So he and Hillary have a lot of similar issues that are in play.
And you have a violation of the 2009 Federal Records Act and National Archives and Records Administration, they require that agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that federal records center received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency that of record keeping.
Well, if you use deletions and bleach bit and hammers, you're not preserving it or you're preserving the law.
That would also be a violation of the Freedom of Information Act, where it states very clearly, especially with the State Department, over many violations where they are supposed to keep all of these records for the purpose of oversight.
In one case, in the case of government oversight, in the case of the we the people have oversight when it's not related to national security issues.
You know, remember Loretta Lynch under her watch, because that was an important point.
Although Loretta Lynch described the meeting as primarily social, talking about golf and grandchildren, she was just about to make the decision about whether or not Bill Clinton's wife, when they met on the tarmac in Arizona, had committed crimes while overseeing the investigation into his wife and that private email server.
And there's one law after another.
Employees shall act impartially and not give preferential treatment to any private organization or individual.
There was nobody in the world that would be facing the crimes that Hillary was facing, and the Attorney General meets with that person's spouse.
That's never going to happen.
Or employees shall endeavor to avoid any actions creating the appearance that they're violating the law or ethical standards.
These are specific mandates.
You know, you got James Comey, and you look at him and all the different things that we've talked about.
James Comey publicly admitted that he gave the memos of his interactions with President Trump to his Columbia Law School professor friend.
And then, why?
For the purpose of the New York Times leaking it for the purpose of getting a special counsel put in place.
James Comey closed out the Clinton email investigation and telling Congress he made the decision to clear her after she was interviewed by the FBI.
But the FBI documents, we know that that exoneration was written in early May.
And the handling of the Clinton administration.
Why was no grand jury impaneled in that case?
Why was it taken out of the hands of the field agents?
Comey publicly admitting that he gave memo recordings of his interactions with President Trump.
Really?
Who does this?
Then, of course, the dossier.
And this is where we're going to have big news tonight on Hannity.
But you want to know the people that lied?
James Clapper lied to Congress, CUSA Today, or the Guardian story on John Brennan lying to Congress, or Loretta Lynch in the New York Post.
A great article about her.
We'll put them up on Hannity.com lying to Congress.
James Comey lying to Congress, Loretta Lynch on another occasion, or James Comey lying to Congress because they contradict each other.
You know, then you got Eric Holder.
We knew about that.
He lied to Congress.
Lois Lerner lied to Congress.
Great article, The Washington Times about her.
Jack Liu, the Treasury Secretary.
Washington Post had a story about the lies he told Congress about a key part of the Iranian deal.
We know the deputy FBI Director McCabe lied, and we have Clinton aide Cheryl Mills lying to DOJ officials and Uma Abedeen, same thing.
When does the lying stop?
Why is it only General Flynn that's in this position?
Denise McAllister is with us, co-author of Spygate, which, by the way, required extensive research on the Mueller team.
Craig Jarrett, number one bestseller of the Russia hoax.
I don't see any of these other important people being brought up on charges of having lied and being treated the way that General Flynn is being treated, Greg.
Well, you're right, because there's sort of two standards.
If you're connected or support Donald Trump, you will have the full force of the federal government coming after you with a vengeance.
But if you're a member of the Obama administration or friends of Bill and Hill, you get a free pass on everything.
And this is why Americans have come to distrust and indeed fear their own government, especially the FBI and the Department of Justice.
As you and I were talking last night, I mean, it's come to the point now: you know, if Mueller or the FBI comes to your door and wants to talk, shut the door.
Don't talk.
Call the nearest lawyer.
Do not hand over documents.
And, you know, because Mueller plays a gotcha game.
If you don't remember a memo or an email you sent two years ago, you can bet he's got his hands on it and he's waiting for you to say, I don't recall that memo.
Well, what if you don't recall?
I mean, I was trying to be a little clever with you last night on TV when I said, do you remember?
Well, no, think about this.
This is an important day in your life.
The day you had worked, you know, well over a year pounding out every word alone in your book as I watched you do it.
Your office is two doors down from mine and every day.
I saw you working and working and working.
Anyway, so you get to this momentous day and the book finally comes out and we're talking about it on the show.
And I said, do you remember the conversation that we had that day?
And your answer is no.
You don't remember specifics of that conversation.
So of course not.
If you were saying that to Robert Mueller, I guess that means that you lied under oath like General Flynn.
General Flynn was supposed to remember the contents of a meeting that he had with his soon-to-be counterpart at a time that was frenetic with a newcoming, incoming administration.
I don't believe that that standard is ridiculous to me.
Well, you're absolutely right.
And in fact, Mueller could never prove a case in a court of law that he's brought against people like Papadopoulos and Flynn because under the law, look at the statute, 18 U.S.C. 1001.
It requires that the alleged false statement being made knowingly and willingly, failing to properly recollect something is not a crime.
And yet Mueller criminalizes that which is not a crime to come after you for partisan and political reasons.
Let me bring in our good friend D.C. McAllister here and get your take on the whole Flynn situation and the massive double standard.
By the way, tonight at nine, we're blowing open a story that is, it should shock the conscience of every American.
We now have discovered email chains.
I'll give you a hint.
It has to do with FISA abuse, everything we've been saying, except now we've got smoking gun evidence tonight.
But Denise, as our DC, as you look at this, I'm just wondering, this is literally watching the destruction of our justice system because we're not applying the laws equally.
All these people that I mentioned, you lie to Congress, lie under oath, Hillary Clinton is exhibit A.
They didn't spend the last year of their life having to sell their house because they're being haunted by a witch hunt and now potentially facing even some jail time, having massive amounts of time with the special counsel trying to get any little nugget he can get so he can get at Trump and hoping that somebody composes.
So how do you fix a system that has gone that far awry?
Well, the first thing you need to do is expose it.
And Greg is right.
There's a two-tier system of justice in our justice system.
And you see this throughout this investigation from the very beginning all the way through the special counsel, and we're seeing it today.
And with General Flynn, remember that was in the middle of a counterintelligence investigation.
It was not a criminal investigation.
When they interviewed him, they had the transcript before them of what he had said.
So why were they even asking him what he had said if they already had what he had said?
Because remember, this is a counterintelligence investigation.
So the whole interview that was going on was not even necessary.
It reeks of a setup.
And then they pounded on him, met with him like 19 times, trying to get information out of him because they need him to be the connection between Trump and the Russian government to have any kind of real crime going on.
They're again, as they've been doing from the very beginning, looking for a crime, using people to look for a crime, setting up, maneuvering, manipulating any little thing, like you said, that is overted, forgotten, maybe even a little lie because trying to cover for somebody.
He didn't want Pence to look bad when he came out and said there had been no Russian contacts during the campaign.
These These are the kind of things whenever this happens, Mueller's there, you know, with the trap.
And he needs it.
He needs to have his probe justified and legitimized.
Because from the very beginning, this has been to cover up and get you deflected away from the crimes of the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton.
And that's the point.
The double standard, you know, is glaring.
And especially, how do you have an investigation into Russian collusion and influence in the 2016 election and not go after Hillary's bought and paid for dossier that was put together by an admitted liar who even after the fact,
after being fired, after admitting that it was unverified and raw intelligence, and he didn't know if any of it was true, Greg Jarrett, but then he's still contacting the Department of Justice vis-a-vis Bruce Orr and trying to send messages to special counsel Mueller.
So the special counsel that, you know, is mad at the lying of General Flynn was seeking the lies of Christopher Steele, the liar.
Yeah, you know, it is anathema to fairness and justice to be selective in how you enforce the law.
If anybody engaged in a Russian collusion, it was Hillary Clinton who paid for Russian information, fed it secretly to the FBI and the Department of Justice to damage Trump.
As I recount in my book, The Russia Hoax, that's a violation of the law, and I explain why.
And yet nobody has ever investigated, much less prosecuted, Hillary Clinton and the others involved in that illicit scheme.
And yet, you know, there is not a scintilla of evidence that anyone in the Trump campaign, much less President Trump, ever colluded or conspired or coordinated with Russians to win the election.
Just look at, I wrote a column published last night on Foxnews.com.
It's entitled, Mueller Strikes Out Trying to Nail Trump.
Flynn's sentencing memo is a big nothing.
If you examine the sentencing memo and the addendum, there is nothing in there that ties Trump and Russia to this amorphous and elusive crime called collusion.
And that article that Greg is referring to is up on Hannity.com.
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We've got about 30 seconds each for D.C. McAllister and Greg Jarrett.
Greg, we'll start with you.
With this blockbuster coming out tonight and all these people we know lied, is there now a standard set?
Will they now be held accountable?
With a new confirmed by the Senate Attorney General, somebody like Congressman John Radcliffe, who would be great in that position, the answer would be yes.
He will hold these people accountable.
So I'm optimistic it'll happen.
D.C.
Well, we also have to remember that the IG has reports coming out in his own investigations, and there's a bit of a war probably going on there in the Justice Department between these two entities trying to get to the truth.
And I think Mueller is really afraid of what Horowitz is going to come out with.
And if he does his job like he did in the first report, they will be held accountable and exposed.
Well, can't come soon enough.
All right, D.C. McAllister, Greg Jarrett, thank you.
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