Sean Hannity Show - The Meaning of Opportunity - 12.20

Dec. 20, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show

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The Meaning of Opportunity - 12.20

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	This is Jonathan Gillam.
	Back in for my good buddy and the powerful Sean Hannity on the universally known Sean Hannity radio show.
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	This is gonna be a fun show.
	I could tell it's gonna be a fun show.
	Should we start with the fact that three seconds ago you didn't have your headphones on and I was worried you weren't on air?
	I was letting the people, you know, I I do the little Facebook thing because I was letting the people hear the beginning of the show.
	This person here almost had a coronary.
	It's like, um, hello, hello, we're live and okay.
	I like it like that.
	I like to keep, you know, Ethan on his feet and his toes and Linda panicking and you know.
	Listen, you've been on conference calls all day.
	I have to make it exciting for you, right?
	That's the way it works.
	I'm just glad I didn't eat lunch yet.
	Well, no.
	That was about to get really uncomfortable.
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	Sit back.
	Now's your chance, because Gillam's in the house, and the truth has arrived.
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	Listen, why am I so giddy?
	Well, partially because being around Linda and Hannity got me sick, and so now I'm uh now I'm feeling the brunt of it after a week.
	So I'm, you know, uh go figure the busiest day for me in the year on radio and I start to get a cold.
	But I'm gonna make it through this just fine.
	The other thing is the reason I'm giddy is because it's almost Christmas.
	It's almost Christmas.
	Don't you just love this time of the year when there's so much love in the atmosphere and there is uh so much hatred in Washington, DC.
	I mean, this is what's so interesting about I I I was talking about this to a f with a friend the other day about how, you know, it used to be that Christmas was, you know, this entire like a mini season within winter, and everybody got all excited about Christmas and they would do things for other people, and they were good to other people.
	And now what what's interesting is I mean, people don't even they don't leave their couch to be good.
	You know, they don't leave their couch, they'll they'll wish you Merry Christmas through uh a text or through Facebook, but they don't make facial contact with anybody.
	You know, everybody's more concerned with their their friends on Facebook and and Twitter and uh and those types of outlets than they do personal contact.
	I've literally seen uh people, you know, enraged right around the Christmas time because of traffic.
	When you think, you know, listen, it's let's let other people go, let's calm down.
	This is a good time to reflect on what Christmas is all about.
	But you know, it's gotten shorter and shorter.
	I'm sure on Sunday, everybody's gonna be very happy and very loving.
	It's almost Christmas, we gotta be good to people.
	But this used to be a longer season, and as the politics and the divisiveness in this country increase.
	The time that we spend reflecting on what Christmas is all about decreases.
	And I find that I find that kind of heartbreaking a little bit.
	So I'm trying to extend that.
	I'm trying to be excited about it now.
	Because let's face it, if you're listening to this show, most likely you were free-born.
	You were born in a country where You know, you didn't have to worry about oppression.
	You didn't have to worry about the military in the streets.
	You didn't have to worry about uh being told when you have to get in the line to get bread, for instance.
	And also, you know, if you're like me, I grew up extremely poor.
	You were given an outlet called opportunity to dig your way out of poverty and be what you want to be.
	That's the great thing about this country is you can dream it and you can do it if you work hard enough.
	So, you know, I I have been impressed, and I gotta I gotta tell you guys a little bit about this story real quick.
	I've been very impressed with the giving spirit.
	Uh I can't go into great detail about the story about my sister who was beaten last week almost to death.
	Uh, she's my half sister.
	I have five sisters and no brothers.
	That's another reason why I'm a little on edge all the time.
	And that's why I became a Navy SEAL because I've got I got beat up by girls my whole life.
	I had to prove my manhood.
	But my dear uh sister Allison was beat up uh down in Florida last uh week, uh, crushed trachea, uh, crushed her skull, broke her jaw, knocked a bunch of her teeth out, and she's been in an in and out of a comatose state uh for uh a week now.
	And when I put that up online uh for a GoFundMe because uh her medical bills are going to be ridiculous.
	And uh we've all kind of come together and uh all my sisters and myself to to help her out, and the giving that's come in from that has been remarkable.
	It's been overwhelming.
	And uh I got a I got a tweet last night that literally stopped me in my tracks and choked me up.
	Now I never thought that Chris Cuomo from CNN would would uh choke me up, but at the same time, I got a tweet from Sebastian Gwerka in support of my sister and from Chris Chris Cuomo from CNN.
	And I I criticize him all the time.
	I mean, I I lay into that guy constantly.
	And the fact that he tweeted out that people should support me and and uh and and my sister, um it just showed me that even regardless of how ridiculous we get and the way we feel about politics and we may not agree on anything, and I I've I've lobbed some harsh criticism at Chris Cuomo.
	The fact is he put all that stuff to the side and came out and said you should support him and uh and his sister.
	I I literally was stopped in my tracks.
	And so I want to I want to say thank you to him, to Sebastian Gwerka, to all the other people that have come out, whether you're verified on Twitter or not.
	The fact is that people have given of themselves.
	I feel just as strongly about people who say that uh I'm I can't give any money, but I'm gonna pray for your sister.
	I'm fine with that.
	That's remarkable.
	And it and again, it brings me back to the fact that we live in a free country.
	You know, again, Chris Cuomo may have different views than I do, but he's free to reach out to me and say, you know, I'm praying for you, or you know, let's give to this.
	Uh I'm free to respond to that in an honest way.
	You're free to tell me you want to pray.
	I haven't asked anybody what their religion is.
	I haven't turned you guys over to the the religion police like they have in Saudi Arabia.
	I've literally been shocked and had to sit down many times because of the things that people have said and done for me, for my sister, but because they trust me.
	And that says a lot about the connection that I have with the people that listen to me and the fact that people in this country can, they can stand together.
	And so I only want to broach the subject, uh, and I'm not gonna broach the subject anymore about the wall, go fund me.
	I know that I've been critical on it uh on Twitter, but I want you all to know that I'm not critical of building a wall.
	I want the wall built.
	I'm in support of President Trump and building The wall.
	And I'm not against people funding this.
	What bothers me is that we pay taxes.
	Half of your paycheck goes to taxes to the federal government and to state and local.
	You then go out and you pay sales tax.
	And everything you do is taxed.
	If you pay into your retirement like I did in the FBI, and then you leave early, and I got this genius thing, I wanted to start a company, so I withdrew my retirement.
	I got taxed unbelievably on that money.
	We pay taxes.
	The money is there.
	And it what bothers me about this is that people, out of the goodness of their heart, are giving money to something where money already exists.
	And I appreciate what people are doing.
	And obviously it's working because the pressure is on.
	I think President Trump has seen this, that people are.
	Listen, they're giving 50, 75 dollars a person, and there's it's already five million dollars.
	We're not talking about a few people here.
	I mean, I've seen political decisions made over the fact that a hundred people are have called in, or you see TV programs canceled because a thousand people wrote in and said, I don't want to watch that.
	This is a lot of people.
	So I want people to understand that.
	You know, if we disagree on something, like Chris Cuomo and I on majority of things, we can still work together on things that are important.
	I believe in the wall.
	You believe in the wall.
	You funded it.
	I didn't.
	And I and the reason I didn't is because I believe we pay that money in taxes, and the pressure should be on the politicians to step forward.
	Now I know that's even more of a dream than the American public funding the wall, getting politicians to do what they're supposed to do.
	So I don't want, I don't want people, when I when I tweet something out, I want you to talk to me, converse with me, have dialogue, because that's the most important thing that we can do.
	If you disagree with something I say on the radio, let me know.
	I may disagree right back, but that is how we get to a point where we're getting up off the couch, where we're actually saying hello to each other again, where we're actually standing hand in hand against tyrannical governments where they want to take guns away, for instance.
	By the way, I saw a story where a guy went and turned his old rusty gun in, got the money, and went and bought a better gun.
	Which I think is very smart.
	If you can fool the system when the system's full on you, go do it.
	But we need to get to a point again, folks, where I like to say, go, we need to go uh back to the future.
	We need a revolution.
	We need to go back to where the founding fathers thought, the way that they were, the way that they approached problems.
	And you know what they did?
	They didn't have the comfort of fast food drive-through or their couches that they could sit on and change, you know, 400 channels on their cable TV, most of which are the same now, it seems like.
	I mean, there's no reality shows unless it's about Alaska or Moonshine.
	It's just the founding fathers didn't have that.
	They weren't comfortable.
	And as I've always said, comfort kills.
	The men that make it through SEAL training, they aren't comfortable, they're driven.
	And the people that win freedom and established countries are not comfortable.
	They are driven.
	And I have to say that if American people want a wall, you will be driven.
	And if President Trump wants a wall, he will be driven.
	Because this is the bottom line, folks.
	If you want to stay free, you have to fight for freedom.
	If you want to be secure, you have to analyze the threat.
	You have to look around and say, what's going on here?
	And then you fix it.
	And if President Trump wants to stay in office, he will do what he said he would do.
	Build a wall and do exactly what he did to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office when they try to come down on him and say we want to have this in private.
	He said, This is transparency.
	It doesn't get any more transparent than this.
	And then he did the most I think heroic leadership thing I've seen in modern time, he said, I will own it.
	I will shut it down and I will own it.
	I can guarantee you, President Trump, if you lead like that, which you have, I'm not criticizing you on this one.
	You will get re-elected.
	There won't be any problem.
	That's the interesting thing.
	You are the only president in modern history that if you do what you said you were going to do and stop caring about politics, you will automatically get re-elected.
	But if you play politics, you're going to have trouble in 2020.
	That's the way this works.
	Everything you've done has been backwards as far as politics.
	Why stop now?
	Keep pushing forward.
	This is Jonathan Gillum.
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	This is Jonathan Gillum.
	Filling in for my good buddy, Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Call in number is 800-941-7326-800-941-Shawn.
	And uh, you know, listen, folks, as I was talking about before, before we went to uh break, uh, this shouldn't just be the season of Christmas and the season of giving.
	We should get in the habit of making it the season of standing together.
	Now, one thing I just got through trashing on social media a little bit and and how people will jump to to uh conclusions about things.
	One thing that's really good about social media is that if enough of you respond to a uh politician or a celebrity because you don't like something, trust me when I tell you this, it gets noticed.
	And you do have a voice when you unify.
	That's an important thing is that you realize that all this stuff that you see you're seeing about the wall, all the stuff that you're seeing about uh politicians and rhinos and Democrats, you know, whether they're back it or they won't back it, and the way they maneuver is so visible now because of social media, because of media in general.
	It's so visible that if they care or if they don't care.
	You don't see Louie Gomer out there being wishy-washy on stuff.
	You see Louis Gomer, you know, this is how I am, or this is who I am, this is how I feel, and this is what I this is what I believe.
	He doesn't sway from that.
	But that's not the case with a lot of these other politicians.
	It's not.
	And the great thing about social media is that it really does, it really does help you have a voice if you get unified.
	And that is the key, and that's what I want to continue to press upon you for this uh show that over this Christmas season, you need to get unified.
	This is Jonathan Gillam, filling in from a good buddy Sean Handy on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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	This is John of the Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
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	You write this down.
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	And that's S-E-A-N, by the way, for all of you that want to confuse how to spell Sean.
	I hope you know how to spell Sean Hannity by this point.
	So before I get started talking, I just wanted to, you know, everybody knows Linda.
	She's a producer of the show.
	She is the master of the universe, really, if you know Linda.
	She she is the you know how certain people you say, she just acts like she knows everything.
	Well, Linda actually does know everything.
	I I really do think.
	Oh man.
	And am I doing good?
	Am I doing it?
	No, I I I tell you, I gotta give you a raise.
	So here so I wanted to do uh an impersonation.
	Her son is amazing.
	He's how old is he now?
	He's uh three, they're almost three and a half.
	So he's three and a half, but literally he is is he looks like Lou Ferrigno in a diaper.
	I mean he's huge.
	So I I've been working on a an impersonation.
	I saw a video of him at school, and he was like four feet taller than all the other kids.
	So and it was like this.
	I'm walking here.
	I'm walking here.
	The funny thing is is that he is a total mimicker.
	I mean, he mimics everything.
	It's hysterical.
	And I do hear him saying things like he has a giant toy phone.
	It's like one of those giant phones with own like the numbers and the letters and everything, and he'll he'll take the phone, he'll go, Yeah, that sounds fantastic.
	Let's work that out.
	And I'm like, oh my God.
	He literally is listening to me on the phone.
	It's just hysterical.
	But um wait to see what his freaking vocabulary is gonna be later on.
	Listen, I have a very strict rule in my house.
	Very strict, okay?
	There's no cursing around my son.
	That's good.
	I don't swear at all.
	My son goes to a Christian school.
	That's good.
	Okay, is learn all about the baby Jesus.
	Yep.
	Which dovetails nicely into my story.
	Yes, go ahead.
	So today, today's my last my son's last day of preschool for the year.
	And instead of doing Christmas celebration, they do a birthday party for baby Jesus to get back to what it's all about.
	Awesome.
	Love it.
	And we're doing that at our house too.
	Okay, fine.
	We're doing cupcakes, but yeah.
	Whatever.
	So we get to I get there a little early because we were allowed to come just in time for a chapel.
	And the vicar sits down and he's reading about you know, Mary and Joseph and the manger and all this stuff, right?
	And he says, uh, Mary and Joseph.
	And it's ten little three-year-olds.
	It's the but mommy and the daddy.
	It's a bot.
	And it's like adorable, you know.
	Yeah.
	And then he goes, and and this was the day that the baby Jesus was born.
	And Liam, without missing a beat, goes, the baby Jesus is born.
	See, I got it right.
	My impression was right.
	He starts clapping.
	And he jumps out of his seat.
	And the pastor looks at me and he goes, Wow.
	Merry Christmas.
	Make sure you duck so he doesn't hit his head on the top of the door.
	I literally, I never laugh so hard in my life.
	And he goes, Mommy, did you hear?
	The baby Jesus is coming.
	Isn't it great?
	And I thought, this is the most precious moment.
	Like he's so serious.
	This is all he knows.
	He's only three and a half.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	And you just start young.
	And he was so excited.
	It was the cutest thing ever.
	My mom was there too.
	We were just it was just adorable.
	It was really precious.
	You know, they say, and everybody probably knows this already, but uh I did study psychology and political science in college, and they say that in the first five years of kids' life, they're practically they're a genius.
	They learn a language, they learn how to walk, and adults who've had strokes never really come back from that in a lot of ways.
	So it's pretty amazing what what they pick up along the way just on their own.
	It's amazing.
	Um are we gonna go to the Trump uh thing right now?
	Yeah, the president is speaking, so uh let's all pray.
	Let's do that and let's hear what he's got to say.
	That the president will speak first on the matters at hand and then to the farm bill.
	Here's the president.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much, please.
	That was from the Emmys.
	I sang.
	Green Acres.
	And received a very nice award that night.
	That was really great.
	So we had that.
	Somebody had it.
	I said, put it on.
	Not too much of it, but put it on.
	Congratulations, my man.
	Well, it's great to be here.
	We have uh a lot of big things happening.
	And I want to thank our great vice president, Mike Pence for joining us.
	Terrific job.
	Loves our farmers like I do.
	And Zippy Duvall, where's it zippy?
	Zippy.
	Hi, Zippy.
	What a good name.
	Good job, too.
	John Heisdorfer.
	John Bodie.
	Thank you, John.
	Jimmy Music, I love that name.
	Should be a singer with that name, right?
	Probably is.
	Kevin Kester.
	Chuck Connor.
	Chuck.
	Any relation to Chuck Connor, the great actor?
	Huh?
	No.
	He was pretty good.
	Randy Mooney and Jim Hymerl.
	Thank you all for being here.
	That's a great group of people.
	That's a great group.
	And some of our some of our great political geniuses we have with us today.
	And you think this was an easy one?
	You know?
	They think it was easy.
	It was not an easy one.
	But we have to take care of our farmers and our ranchers, and we will take care of them.
	And not only is it a bill, it's a great bill for them.
	So we're honored by it.
	And instrumental people, leader Mitch McConnell, who may have the easiest job in the United States, especially around the border.
	Thanks, Mick.
	Good man.
	John Bozeman.
	John.
	John, thank you.
	Good.
	We got it there, John.
	John Hoven.
	Thank you, John.
	Great.
	Spent a lot of time together.
	Senator Cindy Hyde Smith.
	She had a very easy race.
	Right?
	And she ended up winning by a lot.
	She ended up winning by a lot, Cindy.
	Great job.
	Debbie Stabenowan, she's tough, I can tell you.
	We competed with her.
	She's tough and she's smart and does a great job.
	Thank you very much, Debbie.
	Really good job.
	Ralph Abraham.
	Ralph, thank you.
	Rick Allen, Jody Arrington, Andy Barr.
	I was Andy Barr.
	Was Andy.
	Oh, did I do a good job for you?
	Did I do a good job?
	You're one of the only congressional congressmen that I could have.
	I'll tell you what I went to.
	The White House told us.
	Congratulations.
	The first thing he'll do is go straight into the matters at hand, and then he'll go to the farm bill.
	That clearly wasn't true.
	So the moment the president gets to the matters at hand, we will go back to the president immediately.
	First, we've gotten to this John Gillam in for Sean Hannity.
	We're going to do the same thing that Shepard Smith was just talking about.
	When uh when he starts getting into it and stops uh announcing everybody, we're gonna go back uh to the uh the live feed and listen to him.
	Call in numbers 800 941 uh 7326-800941 Sean.
	And you know, it's interesting because uh everybody is on pens and needles about this uh this uh presser uh because the president's got so much to say.
	I really hope that the same guy that was in the Oval Office against Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer comes out at this uh this press conference.
	It's gonna be pretty amazing.
	So I may I'm gonna start on something.
	I may have to get pulled off because uh because of the uh the live uh uh presser, but just staying by.
	You know, I want to talk um pretty quick about uh this and I'm gonna talk about this a little bit more a little bit later on with uh Peter Schweitzer.
	Um it turns out, you know, that this whole dossier, everything that everybody suspected all along.
	This is what's incredible about politics now.
	Everything that you suspected is happening.
	Is has happened.
	And when it comes to the dossier, you know, uh uh there is uh some incredible reporting that has come out about this.
	Uh McCain associates uh shared uh unverified steel dossier with BuzzFeed uh court filings are saying now.
	It's also saying that John McCain, uh potentially uh Paul Ryan, and uh and also another congressman, I'll get his name uh up here in just a second.
	But they were all informed of this dossier.
	Uh yeah, it was uh let's see here.
	They say it was it was shared on December uh 13th uh with unnamed British uh security officials.
	This was December 13th of 2016.
	Um, GOP Illinois uh representative Adam uh Kitzinger.
	Uh he's the guy that you see on TV all the time.
	I think way too much, that's my opinion on it.
	Uh senior director for uh Russian Affairs at the National Security Council, uh Celeste Wallander, and House Speaker Paul Ryan's chief of staff, John Burks.
	Now, uh Paul Ryan's team uh says that this did not happen, but according to uh the the documents that were read in court, it did happen.
	I wonder if that has anything to do with Paul Ryan's last presser being uh canceled.
	It was delayed for a while, and then it was canceled.
	It looks like the President's about to speak now.
	Let's go to him report.
	We're stopping them.
	So process you wouldn't believe how tough, but we're stopping them in record numbers.
	At this moment, there is a debate over funding border security and the wall, also called so that I give them a little bit of an outsteel slats.
	We don't use the word wall necessarily, but it has to be something special to do the job.
	Steel slats.
	I've made my position very clear.
	Any measure that funds the government must include border security.
	Has to.
	Not for political purposes, but for our country for the safety of our community.
	This is not merely my campaign promise.
	This is the promise every lawmaker made.
	It is the solemn promise to protect and defend the United States of America, and it is our sacred obligation.
	We have no choice.
	For decades, Washington abandoned this commitment and allowed millions and millions of people to enter our country illegally and over the objections of the American people.
	No one voiced or voted for a policy, no one endorsed this policy, and no one ratified this policy.
	It was a total assault on our democracy itself.
	Illegal immigration costs our nation 275 billion dollars a year.
	You hear many different numbers.
	You can say billions in billions, but the number that I hear most accurate is 275 billion dollars a year at least, millions of jobs and thousands of innocent lives.
	More than 90 percent of heroin comes across our southern border.
	Heroin deaths have tripled since 2002.
	Every week this illegal heroin kills at least 300 Americans and costs our nation over 230 billion to 289 billion dollars, or nearly five billion dollars a week.
	I spoke with President Xi of China, and he has agreed to make fentanyl another one of the big big problems, and probably uh I think it's just gone to number one, kills 80,000 people a year in our country.
	Uh he's going to make that a major crime in China.
	And if you get caught, you pay a major penalty.
	It's called the death penalty.
	And it wasn't listed as a crime until I spoke to him.
	So I appreciate President Xi for doing that.
	It's a tremendous, that's gonna have a tremendous impact.
	Every day, 10 known or suspected terrorists try to gain entry into our country every day, 2,000 illegal aliens try to cross our borders.
	They try.
	We get most of them.
	It's hard without a wall.
	Every year, 50,000 illegal children are smuggled by coyotes and criminals into our country.
	And the last two years alone, ICE officers arrested criminal aliens charged with Or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
	It's rough stuff.
	Yet the Democrats continue to oppose border security no matter how many innocent people get hurt or die.
	Ridiculously and dangerously.
	Certain people want open borders, which allow potentially massive crime.
	Our nation has spent trillions of dollars and sacrificed thousands of brave young lives defending the borders of foreign nations.
	I am asking Congress to defend the border of our nation for a tiny fraction, tiny fraction of the cost.
	Essential to border security is a powerful physical barrier.
	Walls work, whether we like it or not, they work better than anything.
	In Israel, 99.9% successful.
	Think of it.
	I spoke to Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister two days ago.
	We're talking about it.
	He said it's 99.9.
	I mean, he came up.
	I didn't ask.
	I said 99.9% successful.
	We have proposed a steel slat barrier to halt the.
	This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
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	When we had to go away from the uh live feed there, this is the important thing that Trump took away or that you could take away about Trump is that he said every lawmaker has sworn to protect the United States.
	I wholeheartedly agree with him.
	In fact, it's mandated in the Constitution that uh public safety be uh taken care of.
	So uh I do appreciate that he said that.
	He's moving forward on this wall.
	Uh, I hope that he continues to stick by his guns, and uh and he will get re-elected in 2020.
	There's no way he can be stopped if he does this.
	I can guarantee it.
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	This is your good friend Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Call in number 800-941-7326.
	I promise I will get to your phone calls here shortly.
	But first, you know, every Thursday, if you tune in regularly, you will hear me, I should say uh Daniel McLaughlin and myself.
	Did I say your last name wrong?
	Did I say it right?
	McLachlan.
	Yeah, McLaughlin.
	You got it.
	Hey.
	Yeah.
	So we we're we kind of debate.
	Oh, I'd say every Thursday, but you're so you know, friendly that it's hard to really full on debate you.
	So that's why I figured I would reach out to DC McAllister, because she's ruthless.
	And I figured let's bring her on and let her debate you.
	So welcome to you both.
	Thank you.
	So listen, this is when I this is what I wanted to do with you guys.
	I wanted to start off with a a little bit different than the normal debate because we had a conversation, all three of us, uh, last week, and it it was fascinating.
	Um I wouldn't say that everybody agrees on everything, but the fact is that I I discovered by talking to you all together that everybody has their own way of coming about what they believe.
	They have their own way of deciding I like that or I don't like that.
	And what I like about you two is that you're free thinkers, you're not just ruled by your ideology.
	One's conservative, one's liberal.
	You you actually try to think your way through these things.
	I don't think Danielle thinks her way through it enough.
	I'd like to see you think more through it, but that's just because working on it, Jonathan.
	Every day.
	So I listen to you, right?
	Exactly.
	So let's start with you.
	I'll give you a chance to talk.
	Let's start with you.
	Sure.
	And you tell me and tell the audience, you know.
	Um, how do how did you come about your ideology?
	And when you make When you look at what's going on in the news, how how do you, as a liberal, and you are a liberal person?
	I don't like calling you a liberal, but you have a you you favor a liberal ideology, but you are an effective thinker.
	How do you come about your decision making process when you're going to analyze something or when you see it in the news?
	Sure.
	And hey, um, JC, great to be with you.
	Uh it was so good to see you last week.
	And it's great to be back on air with our wonderful listeners.
	Many of whom don't agree with me, of course, but I'm always so grateful that you tune in.
	Um, obviously, Jonathan, I'm not from here.
	I grew up in a in New Zealand in a place with a very different um, you know, form of government, yeah, accent too.
	Um, and I've moved uh around the world a little bit and I've seen um big government, I've seen small government, I've uh you know, lived in places where there is a second amendment, I've lived in places where there are basically no guns that have been outlawed.
	So when I come to an issue, uh I I think a lot about freedom, I think a lot about tyranny, which actually might surprise you.
	And I think that there's an important role of government uh in making sure, I guess, that our freedom is preserved.
	And I I just I I fight back against uh deregulation, for example.
	I think that there are some things that government can do and should do, and that is things like a safety net to make sure that people, you know, who are the most vulnerable um can get it back up on their feet.
	I think government should have a role in education, at least from to standardize it because Americans will go out into the world and they will compete with other countries.
	So, you know, I think you should get the same quality education whether you are from the West Coast, whether you're from Florida, which is from California, whether you're from Missouri, I don't think it should matter.
	Okay.
	And I worry a lot about um last point, uh corporate America, right?
	We will talk about deregulation, getting rid of the government, but who sits into that vacuum?
	And I would rather have elected leaders making decisions, people who are accountable to regular people like me than corporations who frankly, as it should be, their primary, uh, you know, they they they're the primary goal is to make money to get money back to their shareholders.
	I want politicians who are accountable to us.
	So Danielle, when you come up with your your process of analyzing things and how you look at it, what's the process that uh what how have you come about to believe what you believe?
	And how do you when you sit down and you see some of the news, how do you analyze that?
	Are you talking to me, DC?
	or do you want more from Danielle?
	We're good with Danielle for a second.
	Um, it's great to be here.
	Thank you for having me, and it is wonderful.
	I I love you guys.
	And uh as far as I come to politics not from a ver from a pragmatic point of view or even an ideological point of view.
	I really do look at things with my presuppositions first.
	You know, what are my foundational beliefs that I'm bringing to my views on these very social matters?
	And you know, things like you know, do I believe in the individual over the collective?
	Do I believe that we uh have uh autonomy away from everything, or do I believe that we were made by a creator and that we have a responsibility to an objective truth, and then that we have a responsibility to each other, and how is that defined by that objective reality and not by our subjective needs or wants or ideals?
	Um I look at life um in that frame and also that I don't believe in that we are progressing towards some kind of ideal.
	I believe life is an ebb ebb and flow of difficulties.
	And if you're looking for some kind of perfection or utopia or some kind of betterment, uh this grandiose betterment of humanity, I I don't really look at life that way.
	I I think that we can progress and become better people as as far as our character goes, but it's always a struggle.
	You're always gonna have the evil mixed among the good.
	And so I do believe that there's bad, and I do believe that there is good.
	And so I don't put my trust in institutions in that way because I believe that you know power corrupts.
	So I'm looking at these probably bigger world view um ideals before I um in principles before I ever come to some kind of pragmatic um conclusions about policy.
	And you know, I think that's what separates me from a lot of people on the left is that you know, I try to get back to these foundational core principles and where I would see government being involved, I my first question is what is the individual's responsibility?
	That's my first question.
	And it's not gonna be a perfect solution.
	What is then the associations of local um involvement?
	What is state, the the smaller you have area of personal responsibility you have the more freedom you have so the more active that the individual is in carrying out his own his or her own person um personal responsibility they're gonna have greater liberty and so I'm I'm always moving away from any kind of centralized kind of solutions to to problems into policies and to care and to taking care of people and in that I'm not looking for perfection so it's never gonna be good but the more local that we have solutions
	that we have policy that we have safety nets that we have these these uh social uh frames created the better it is for everyone because then you have more control and more personal responsibility in it and you're not giving it over to strangers in a distant place and then the power where power can corrupt so that's where I come to my my views.
	So, you know, out of both those statements, here's the thing that I took from both of them, which I find fascinating.
	I find this culture.
	I've had this conversation with Rick Unger and many other people before about how we can all listen to one thing and come up with different perspectives of it.
	And it seems to me that really what it boils down to is, Danielle, you're more of a proponent for electing the right people and having them do the right thing, if I'm saying this correctly.
	And, D.C., you're more in tune with personal responsibility and...
	and doing things on the local level.
	Would that would they exactly Daniel would you say that's exactly Yeah and you know I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna say that these things aren't mutually exclusive you know to DC's point.
	I do think very firmly that we have uh autonomy, we have responsibility to be good humans, to to be innovative to care take care of our families, um to make the right decisions for our children um and the right decisions professionally, you know what have you but I I am not someone I I believe also in institutions.
	I uh I know you and I have talked a lot about you know back and forth about the deep state um and you know whether that exists or not I know that you you you believe it does but I you know I think about government is still a collection of individuals people who go home every day, kiss their husbands or wives or you know partners who see their kids off to school.
	Most of the government is you know civil service nonpolitical I think about that a lot in the light of the potential shut shutdown that's coming it may be coming down the road in the next couple of days of a Christmas of the holidays um I try to think about institutions as being full of people who are trying to do the right thing.
	And to Daisy's point there are good people, there are bad people, but I tend to have a more positive view about the people who get up every day and go and work and and federal government state government.
	Having been one of those people who gets up and goes and works in the federal government I will tell you you're right about that majority people are good.
	DC what do you think about this?
	Typically the people who wield the most power are where you're gonna find in politics anyway are where you're gonna find the bad people.
	That's they uh there's two kinds of people that seek higher office typically from what I've seen and not just higher office and politics but at an executive level it's people who want to make a difference and people who uh want to have more power basically what it comes down to.
	Well I think you can have greedy power mongers at any level from the homeowners association all the way up to the president.
	Really I mean yeah the point is not so much you know who are the good people or who are the bad people within government but what does the institution itself allow to them to get away with so the the more the smaller the government power and the more local where there's more accountability the less you're gonna have evil people get away with things.
	You're gonna have more of a control and even if they do get away with them there it's not going to affect as many people.
	So your homeowners association can be a bunch of tyrants but it's only going to affect your small neighborhood.
	It's not gonna affect the entire state or the entire nation.
	Right.
	But imagine if you had your homeowner association with a bunch of of tyrants in Washington DC where they aren't as accountable where they have many many layers of protection from in and lack of accountability where the where power can corrupt.
	So the more distant the government and these individuals who may be good at mix of good and bad are away from accountability and away from the people themselves the more that they're gonna be corrupted and be allowed to to and be free to get away with things that are harmful to society.
	This is why I'm very opposed to centralized government.
	It's not about my quality of the people it's about the quality of the structure of the government that allows for evil to take hold.
	I I think that's the way the founding fathers here envisioned it they didn't want a strong uh federal government they wanted a strong uh state governments and uh local governments and I and I think we've gotten away from that and you can see the the ramifications of that.
	But I want to ask uh Danielle, um I wanted to congratulate you.
	You've now had your second anchor baby, and uh it's so congratulations on that.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So even if you decide to leave, they still have their citizenship.
	So what do you do?
	So what do you like?
	What do you feel um about now that you know I mean I'm being serious here and joking in one way, but let's say you had to leave.
	Your your child now has citizenship, but you're you're striving to become a citizen.
	What do you think uh about people who play that law and will run up to the border and and uh and you know uh if they're gonna have a baby, they run and get to the border as quickly as they can so they can have a baby inside the inside the United States just simply to have that that hook.
	Sure.
	Great question.
	You know, I have a mix of I think for any rule breaker, I have a mix of empathy and a and a mix of of displeasure and and upset.
	So uh to use immigration as an ex as an example.
	Clearly I'm an immigrant, I've done everything the right way, I've been here for 17 years.
	I actually thought you were gonna ask me well how I would feel if I had to leave this country, and I would tell you I would be devastated because as an immigrant, you choose, you know, you choose where you come to.
	And so there is a lot of uh, I guess emotional uh uh investment uh in a place that you weren't necessarily born in but you traveled often times a long distance to get to.
	And you climbed over the wall, right?
	Or you climbed over a fence, correct?
	I flew in.
	I flew in actually.
	Actually, you know, there are more visa other size than uh southern border crosses, but we'll get to that another day.
	Um, you know, I I it's wrong.
	There is a reason that we have laws and laws are designed to be followed, right?
	I'm a lawyer, I understand that.
	I do have empathy for people who have walked with their children a thousand miles, who have waited at a border crossing for two days, who find that border crossing to be closed and they decide that they're gonna make a run for it across so that they can, you know, try and claim asylum.
	Hey, I gotta take a look at that.
	Empathy, deep empathy for them.
	I gotta take a break.
	I'm what I'm gonna do is let you finish that.
	I'm gonna hold you over and we'll uh we'll come back to you guys because I want to hear DC's side of this as well.
	This is John and the Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	You thought I was gonna have a huge debate with these two wonderful women, but I'm trying to show people that you can discuss these things that there is a thinking process with many people.
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	This is John and the Gillam back in for Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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	And uh I just want to say to all the affiliates out there, when you tweet and you uh you put me up on Twitter and you say I'm gonna be on, I thank you for that very much.
	It uh gives my uh my fans a chance to see if uh they might be able to tune in to your show in your local area.
	So I appreciate that.
	And this one I want to do, um, I want to bring uh Danielle and uh DC back on for a minute, and I want to let DC respond to what we were talking about there a second ago.
	And and basically, well, here's here's what I really want to ask you, DC.
	Um when it comes to uh the immigration issue, when it comes to all these different things that are going on, um how do you feel, you know, with your conservative values and uh and your ability to analyze things, how do you feel about the way this is being handled?
	Because I know the way America feels about it.
	Um is it something that how do we get the conservative uh uh people in office to respond to what we need?
	Well, I mean, first of all, when it comes to immigration in general, we need to get the message out as conservatives that we are not against immigration.
	The issue is illegal immigration, and with birthright citizenship, this is the problem.
	It's about illegal immigrants coming over and having babies to become chain migration sources for more illegal immigration.
	So I mean, it's just uh it's about keeping the laws, holding up the laws, and that the purpose of the laws and get the message out is a matter of empathy for Americans and for our society and protecting our society and that we just can't have open borders for anyone, and that there's a difference between immigration and asylum, and to understand what asylum laws are.
	So We just really need to understand what the issues are before and and understand that they are empathetic.
	The law gotta run, gotta run.
	Thank you very much, DC hate to cut you off, but that's uh that's the way that the the radio uh world rolls.
	Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
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	This is John of the Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
	Listen, I hope you're driving, I hope you're listening.
	If you're uh if you're somewhere in like not in New York, we're actually driving, uh, and you are um almost home, you know, I might just want to park for a while and go ahead and listen to the show, because it's gonna be a good show.
	I'm gonna give you uh some real information uh about how you can keep yourself safer, not just over the holiday season, but there's a lot of things that have been happening in the news that if people were just more aware of reality of what's going on, they wouldn't be scammed, they wouldn't be um dead uh if they just had this type of awareness.
	Let me I'm gonna take a couple calls.
	I promised people that I would take more calls today.
	So I want to go uh to Barbara first.
	I heard Barbara has an incredible accent, and I'm from the South.
	I'm from Arkansas.
	So I I love hearing a um a good accent.
	Go ahead, Barbara.
	I live in a border state, and uh I know I have seen what some people do when they come over the border.
	They'll come over and rob us and drive right back across the border.
	Now, this was about five years ago when I was teaching high school.
	But what I call to say is about women supporting Trump, and I told your assistant that I had never seen even one episode of The Apprentice, and I still haven't.
	If they're reruns or something, so my opinion of Donald Trump was what I had seen over the years in the news.
	And I knew he was a wealthy and successful businessman.
	So I look at the party platforms.
	I didn't consider myself a Republican or a Democrat, but I had also seen Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton over the years, and there was no choice left.
	But I enjoyed watching the uh the build-up to the election.
	And one of my friends, a man who worked for a state financial office in Virginia, was very anti-Trump, and he had no reason to be in the very beginning, but it was the mainstream media whose terminology he kept writing in his email.
	And I saw the hateful descriptors of Donald Trump, and I don't see him as that.
	I see him as like a lot of men I've known in my life, a lot of people, women too, who in a moment of hubrish.
	And when they're being recorded, like that Billy Bush interview, that was what they call a sucker punch.
	You know, it's interesting because we go all the way back to that, uh, Barbara.
	We go all the way back to where uh that that interview or that recording wasn't an interview, that recording when they were talking in private.
	And you can see that nothing is ever added up.
	But what what gets me is that uh people still they just do not believe and understand that they can research what the president has done, they can research uh you know what how he's been effective, they can research how he's treated women, and you can see that all the research points to positive.
	I mean, what did they think when they were electing a New Yorker, right?
	First and foremost.
	Well, when I think of New Yorkers, I think of Linda really.
	I think of outspoken go getters, people who live at the speed of life, and um they get stuff done.
	And when uh look at and and they're not, you know, not soft spoken.
	That's not something that uh I have no idea what you're talking about.
	Yeah, sure you don't.
	So sauce but the soft spoken is not something that I would say, oh, those New Yorkers, they're so soft spoken.
	You're never gonna hear that in a conversation.
	But what I what I have found is that the true New Yorkers that I've been around, Donald Trump is a true New Yorker.
	Uh these people are go-getters.
	Uh I don't look necessarily at the Debbie Washerman Schultz and the people who've moved to Florida as the New Yorkers that I'm familiar with.
	I'm talking about the gritty New Yorkers, the one that will yell at you for talking too loud uh uh outside on the sidewalk but will also on the train if you say oh my phone's not working you'll have like ten New Yorkers offer you their phone I mean that's the kind of New Yorkers that I'm talking about.
	And I'm just I'm shocked that people are surprised uh by his outspokenness by uh his uh the the way he tweets and they they confuse that with his effectiveness and I think that's what Barbara was alluding to there and and by the way Barbara love your accent you are a soft spoken you you should be uh reading books for a living that's what you should be doing voiceovers for books for kids I I think that'd be great.
	So let's go.
	I'm gonna take another call.
	Let's go to um Susan in Dallas.
	Got some Texas women here today.
	Go ahead Susan Hi great show.
	Thank you.
	Um I'm calling because I'm frustrated that we're all on pins and needles I feel like Charlie Brown with the football um the five billion only covers allegedly one year of the wall building first of all but didn't Trump just and um the wall that's the football right now it's important but it's secondary.
	Didn't Donald Trump just say he would never sign an obscene pinning resolution again this fits this to four trillion dollars on spending.
	Yeah.
	To me that's more important than the wall.
	So one thing you know it's interesting with that one thing I always had a problem and I was I was hoping that the president would look into this.
	I I've never understood why um the budgets at the end of the year like when I was in the bureau you would see in the FBI you would see people scrambling to spend monies.
	And I never understood that right look why don't you just say okay we you know we asked for the budget this year it was we only use this much but we foresee next year using this much.
	I mean if you don't use the money it should be turned back in not everybody trying to spend it so that they can get a bigger budget the next year.
	And I see that a lot and I think that is one of the things that applies to this.
	but I agree with you, Susan.
	Well, I mean, what do you think when you hear of how the president is handling these things, though?
	What is your opinion on how he should handle it when it comes to dealing with the politics in Washington, D.C.?
	Because you know he's going to have to make deals.
	Well, right now he would have such a – he may end up shutting it down over the wall.
	But to me, he said he would never sign a CR again like that one he – that one he – day because he felt desperate over the sending of the troops well we're not that desperate over the funding of the wall right now.
	He should stick with it no matter what even if he ends up losing this.
	And you know you brought up something very interesting in a very sad situation in San Angelo, Texas where I grew up my mother was on a uh semi-governmental board for uh for literacy she taught adults and teenagers and she was perfect at she ends up running this this uh not for profit but it was governmental and she ended up quitting because at the end of the year when she finally got involved in what's heading the whole thing she saw how the budgeting went and she was so happy that they had not
	spent their whole budget she was going to give it back to the government a grant and the fight that ensued and the lack of literacy that's happening because of all this is just sickening.
	She quit and is no longer doing good deeds for this did she give that money back did they she tried to and that she ends up having to quit.
	She quit because they no one would agree and she couldn't go on.
	She literally like she could have just said okay I've been over overturned by my board but she couldn't she quit she couldn't stand it.
	I don't understand why this occurs and thank you for the call Susan and uh God bless Texas and everybody there you you all have to really stand up because as DC was talking about the you know the local politics are very important and I I do believe that Texas is being subverted and you're changing you're turning purple faster than I've ever seen a state.
	It kills me but the fact that Texas is what it is.
	It is you know the the conservative state and it's turning uh purple so fast that it is scary uh to see that happening.
	But I do agree with you I I I do believe that again and and I I really do like this president but I'm not ashamed to criticize him I'm not gonna back down from criticizing him.
	Everybody uh makes mistakes and everybody uh goes into a process uh not full well knowing what they'll be able to do that's a hard thing about politics is people make promises as they go along and then they realize man if I'm gonna get anything done I'm gonna Have to compromise on some of these things.
	I hate compromise.
	But I think when the case, when we look at the president and the way that he's doing things, I think he showed us the perfect example of how to do it.
	When he was in uh the Oval Office, and can we play that sound bite again?
	Do you have that where he's in the Oval Office and he tells Chuck Schumer?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	One thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute.
	And you want to shut it down.
	The last time, Chuck, you shut it down.
	No, no, no.
	And then you open quickly.
	And when he I don't want to do what you did.
	Twenty times you have called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my woe.
	None of us if you want to know something, you've said it.
	You want to put that.
	Who said it?
	I'll take it.
	Okay, good.
	You know what I'll say?
	Yes.
	If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government.
	Okay, absolutely.
	And I am proud, and I'll disagree.
	I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country.
	So I will take the mantle.
	I will be the one to shut it down.
	I'm not going to blame you for it.
	The last time you shut it down, it didn't work.
	I will take the mantle of shutting down.
	And I'm going to shut it down for border, but we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
	So, you know, this is important to me.
	What he did there was he he exposed the way that they uh work in Washington, D.C. He exposed the way that they want to do things in secret, because over and over again they were they were saying we should do this in private.
	We didn't come here to debate in public.
	And Trump kept saying this is the ultimate transparency.
	I mean, you have uh a Senate leader, uh uh a uh uh congressional house uh leader, you have uh uh the president.
	Why wouldn't you take advantage of that and work out a problem?
	But they don't want to work out the problems.
	See, that's the issue.
	Chuck Schumer said it himself.
	He said, We have a bill that can pass the House and the Senate.
	But see, that is the problem.
	He didn't say we have a bill that solves the problem.
	He said we have a bill that will pass the House and the Senate.
	That tells me nothing.
	It tells me that they have a bill that they can pass that's probably not gonna solve anything about immigration whatsoever.
	And that's the way that they work.
	So I think I got time for one more phone call.
	Let's go to um, let's go to uh David in Tampa, Florida.
	Go ahead, David.
	Oh, yeah, sir.
	How are you?
	Good.
	What's going on?
	Hey, yeah, I'm really concerned.
	You the other night you brought up uh Gallagher and the situation in the soft community.
	I I have a background in that back in the 90s.
	I have several friends that are still active, both both in the fraud community and CAG and others.
	And these are senior guys that are passing a promotions to leave.
	One of my friends who's in CAG said, I got a little boy, he wants to follow my footsteps, and I told him, don't do it.
	Yeah, the concern I have is that we are allowing political correctness is taken over the point where we're losing people.
	These aren't for this beer guys.
	Yeah.
	And uh, you know, my time in the community, I never saw unprofessionalism.
	I saw the best of the best, and even when they wanted to be, they maintained a strictest code of honor and integrity.
	I'm just really concerned with what I see, you know.
	There's a lot of these guys here in the camp area, and we we talk and I got about a I got about a minute left, uh uh, David, but now I want to just ask you this question.
	Does it not concern you if you were a fighter right now?
	You know, I was a SEAL, right?
	So it concerns me not only the fact that people aren't stepping up to the plate to defend Eddie Gallagher and this whole host of other people that are being railroaded, but also what about the war fighters that are going downrange?
	They now have to fear doing their job.
	Yeah, and uh the guys I talk to, they're like, these guys are getting ready to pull, and they're like, I don't want to go.
	First time in my career, I really don't want to go because I'm not gonna be allowed to do my job.
	Politics and legalities are gonna get in the way, even though we're you know we're pros.
	That's shocking.
	We're not them, we're Americans.
	Yeah, that's shocking.
	David, listen, I'm gonna talk about that a little bit later in the show uh in the five o'clock hour.
	So God bless you, brother.
	Thank you for your service, and thank you for that call.
	I'm gonna reflect on that.
	And uh everybody uh you can go to um I I I have to get the uh the website again for Eddie, Eddie Gallagher.
	Um Justice for Eddie.
	Justice for Eddie.
	That's it uh dot com.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you very much.
	See, they're out, they're not they're so soft spoken, the New Yorkers.
	That's subtle.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity, 800 941 7326.
	I'll be getting back to some of your calls.
	Peter Schweitzer's up next.
	And go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show 800, 9417326.
	Listen, here's what we're gonna do.
	We're gonna spin this up, all right.
	At 530, we're gonna come back after this break with uh Peter Schweitzer, and it's always fantastic to have him on the show.
	We're gonna dig into some serious uh government issues that are going on as always.
	But I want to come back at 5 30.
	I want to play a little game with the callers.
	I want to find out what the worst Christmas present is that you ever got, and did you re-gift it?
	And maybe if you have a story about a knockdown drag out that happened at your house over Christmas, no.
	No, no, no.
	We already debated that.
	No, no, no.
	That's not in the spirit of Christmas.
	Who's from New York yet?
	Me to you.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I'm the Southern gentleman.
	I'll let her get away.
	Oh, good Lord.
	Plus she's my boss right now, so we're gonna come back at 5 30, and that's what we're gonna talk about.
	We're I want to hear what the worst Christmas present was that you ever got, and did you keep it or did you return it?
	Um and I'm also, you know, the thing about me is I love getting Christmas cards and birthday uh cards and stuff, but I throw those things away pretty quick.
	I don't want to have a sentimental attachment to cards, so I get rid of them.
	Throw away cards that people give you?
	What am I supposed to do with them?
	You you hang them up.
	Well, I mean, I let them sit there until the the holiday's over and then I throw them away.
	Like Christmas at midnight, you throw them out?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Sometimes I throw them out when I get them.
	But I know not to go to Hallmark for you.
	Yeah, just tell me you love me.
	That's the way it works.
	Speaking of presents, though, sheep know more the art of awareness and attack survival.
	It'll teach you how to divide your life up into sectors so that you can determine and predict every single attack that could ever happen to you.
	Sheep know more the art of awareness and attack survival.
	We'll be right back.
	This is John the Gillum back in for my buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, 800-941-7326.
	Don't forget, we're gonna come back at 530 and uh we're gonna talk about the worst Christmas present you ever got.
	Did you keep it or did you return it?
	Were you crabby or were you good?
	Which one was it?
	So uh, you know, listen, uh there's so much going on right now in the news.
	I mean, it's been going on forever in politics, but really since 2016, it ramped up to uh uh a hook in state uh when it comes to uh corruption and bias and divisiveness in Washington, D.C. I figured, you know, Peter Schweitzer, who I like to have on here when I host because he's got this insight into the way things uh occur there.
	He thinks like I do.
	Um I wanted to have him back on because I want to ask him some questions uh to give the conservatives and the free thinkers, the real thinkers out there, uh, some you know, some ammunition when they go to their Christmas dinners with their families.
	And I know that politics are gonna come up.
	So uh those of you don't know, and I'm sure you do know who Peter Schweitzer is.
	You create he's a creator of a new documentary called The Creepy Line.
	That's gonna uh and uh he let's see.
	He's also the author of Clinton Cash and co-author of Compromise.
	He is also the president of the Government and Accountability Institute.
	Uh Peter, as always, it's great to have you here.
	Hey, thanks for having me on a merry Christmas.
	Listen, I want to ask you, I'm gonna talk about this towards the end of the show, but there was a uh a judge um down in Florida who um says that uh the cops in the schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland High School.
	Yeah.
	So it's easy to see the level of incompetence in that story in the headline alone.
	What is after doing this, what you've been doing for so many years and seeing what you've seen and the depth at which you've investigated this stuff.
	How surprised, even though people know that a lot of politicians are incompetent and corrupt, how incompetent and how corrupt have you seen some of these people?
	Well, I think it's uh I think it's a huge problem, and what people realize the closer they interact with government is that the government's role uh is is essentially to protect its own power and government bureaucrats and politicians are basically looking to protect themselves and their own interests.
	There's a uh a school of economic thought called uh public choice theory, and what public choice theory uh basically says is that you need to think about government and politicians as basically businessmen.
	You know, we know what businessmen are designed to do.
	They want to, you know, create products and services and they want to make money.
	Well, politicians basically have those same human motives.
	They may wrap up what they do in some wonderful sounding words, but at the end of the day, what they are interested in doing is creating demand for their services.
	So if I'm a politician, you know, I don't really get paid.
	I mean, to be cynical about it, I don't really get paid to fix problems.
	I get paid to wrestle with problems, and people will donate money to me, or they will hire, you know, my son uh as a lobbyist uh because there's a crisis or a problem out there that they want fixed.
	But I actually don't get paid for fixing the problem.
	And so what people have to understand is, you know, governments are populated by people, and people in government have the same motivation that people do out of government.
	The difference though is that in business, uh you get paid and you become rich by providing services and goods that people want.
	You know, Bill Gates became fabulously rich in Microsoft, not by forcing people to buy his product, but by providing a product that people would spend a lot of money to buy.
	Government, they don't have that of ability.
	So what they do is they use their power and their authority to force people to do things or to threaten people with things in order to monetize that position.
	And that I think is the biggest thing that people have to understand about how Washington, D.C. works and why problems never seem to get fixed.
	And all you have to do is look at the headlines today about the border wall and the budget and all the drama that's taking place.
	This is a a classic example of that.
	It's interesting because if they did their job and actually solved problems, they'd almost for sure get re-elected.
	But but and that's what I don't get is if we had a political party that really went in there and all the people that were associated with it said we are going to get stuff done, they would get elected every time.
	They would.
	Um but you know, what they're looking for is not just to get re-elected, they're looking for what's the gig after they're done.
	You know, there's an old saying in New Jersey politics, make a law, make a business.
	And what they're basically saying is that, you know, you want to create opportunities for yourself down the road, recognizing you may not be in political office forever, uh even though it seems like some of these people have been.
	Um so you know, let me give you an example, a very simple example.
	Um, you know, certain tax credits that are out there.
	There's there's a research and development tax credits that companies get, and this tax credit allows them if they invest in research and development, creating new technologies, they get a special uh tax credit or tax break based on that investment.
	Well, this has been on the book since nineteen eighty one, but they never make it perman permanent.
	And you think, well, you should make it permanent.
	So businesses know it's gonna be there.
	But if you think like a politician, you realize that if you make that law permanent, you can't go back to companies and ask them for money.
	If you make it last three years and then it's up for renewal, those three years later you can go to companies and say, you know, this law might go away.
	You better pay us, give us donations, give us lobbying contracts, uh, and then we will renew it.
	Um and so this is the balance.
	It's not just about getting re-elected, it's about positioning themselves but also their family members in a way that they can extract money from taxpayers and use their power for their own self-enrichment.
	Now, uh I had a uh an individual that's running uh and I don't know if you want, I need to find out if you want uh up in uh Massachusetts.
	And he's uh a Harvard grad and he said that in his uh I in his mind that uh Harvard is basically a a hedge fund for uh Washington, DC.
	And um it's interesting when he the way he explained it, uh it's so do you think that people come to Washington DC with this premise?
	Or is this something that um that they grow into Once they get there.
	Because it it does exist in the city and uh and in the state politics as well, but not to the extent of you know these people becoming you know multi multimillionaires uh within four years.
	Yeah, I mean that's a great question.
	Um and it's always hard to know to look into somebody's mind and soul and to know why they're motivated to do something, but all you can do is kind of look at what their actions uh betray.
	And so, you know, to give you a very clear cut example of how this works, you know, go back to Dodd Frank, which was the big financial reform bill after the financial crisis.
	And when you add up all the rules, the Dodd Frank bill, which was after Senator Chris Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, uh, it's like some 10,000 pages of rules.
	Um it's it's this enormously complex bill, and and people like Warren Buffett say, I don't understand the rule.
	People that are the smartest lawyers uh you know working for banks look at this and say, we don't understand it, it's so complicated.
	And the point is, of course it is.
	It's designed to be complicated.
	So the people that wrote this complex, highly convoluted bill, once the bill became law, you know what they did?
	They quit their jobs on Capitol Hill and they opened up a consulting firm charging financial companies uh to interpret the bill that they had written.
	So in other words, if the bill was simple, if the regulations were easy to understand, there's no way they could have monetized that.
	But they could monetize it precisely because the law was so complicated.
	And this this occurs not just in finance, but in environmental law, all kinds of areas.
	And you know, when you made the comment about, you know, Harvard kind of being a breeding ground for this, part of what's happening is you know, very smart people that used to go into the private sector um, you know, because they wanted to make money, which is great, are increasingly going into government because they feel like they can accomplish their political goals and they can also get rich at the same time.
	The difference is when you get rich in the public sector in government, you're doing it at the expense of other people.
	It's a zero sum game.
	You have to take things away from other people.
	Uh you have to threaten them with you know regulations or laws to make money.
	Whereas in the private sector, you become rich because you're providing a service that people voluntarily choose to have, whether it's a computer or an iPod or whatever.
	So let me ask you this real quick, and then I gotta take a break.
	Um you look at the the wall and what Trump is facing, how much of what we're discussing here plays into the fact that this keeps getting delayed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, huge.
	There's no question about it.
	Um a lot of the legislative battles that you see on Capitol Hill, it's like professional wrestling.
	You know, I watched professional wrestling when I was a little kid, and I thought it was real.
	I thought the guy hitting the guy with the chair really hated the guy that he was hitting with the chair.
	And then my dad said, no, these guys work together.
	They're actually business partners.
	That's kind of what's going on.
	You've got people in the Democratic side who want the looming threat of the wall because that that scares people on their side and and and scurries up donations.
	And you've got a lot of powerful interests that don't want the wall built because it's going to hurt their labor costs.
	Uh but the bottom line is um, you know, this is something that the president promised.
	I think something that the president should do.
	And the people that are critiquing him and saying, well, the wall's not going to be as effective, the you know, we need to do these other things, are really being disingenuous because those people have not been spending the lax last six years trying to strengthen the border.
	Uh it's just sort of a disingenuous explanation.
	So I think, you know, we've reached this critical point.
	I think the president's drawn a line in the sand, and I think he needs to stick to his guns.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, when he stuck to his guns in the Oval Office, I'll just keep talking about that as much as possible.
	It's probably the greatest example of leadership I've seen uh from a president in a long time.
	I mean, it was amazing the way he stood up to uh Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
	And they it what's funny is when he does that, they just do not know how to take it.
	Right.
	Right.
	Because everybody in Washington is a deal maker.
	I mean, there's a club, and and I understand the compromise is part of how the American system works, but the problem is the compromise always seems to go one direction.
	Uh and the point of compromise is that there should be winners on both sides.
	Um so I think he's right to draw the line, and I think ultimately, if he sticks to his guns, something will come out of this uh that will move us in the direction of actually building a wall.
	One last thing.
	Do you think uh the Clintons will ever go to jail?
	Well, I don't know if they're gonna go to jail.
	I'm I'm hopeful still uh that that there will be uh uh a grand jury.
	There may possibly be a grand jury right now.
	What I've always said is there needs to be an investigation.
	If you if you go back and look, you know, at at in early 2017, what we knew about the the Russian collusion that that has never materialized and what we knew about the Russian uh sorry, the Clintons taking money from foreign entities.
	We knew, and it was a lot more damning evidence about the Clintons than there ever was about Russia collusion.
	And yet we ended up investigating one and not the other.
	And what I've always said is we should have investigated both.
	Uh we've only investigated one, and I think what people are mostly frustrated about is the selective nature of justice in this country that only certain people are expected to abide by the rules, not others.
	Uh it was that way when Wall Street crashed, and you had, you know, very low-level people that engaged in mortgage fraud, ended up having the book thrown at them.
	But you know, the big guys on Wall Street who were falsifying, you know, huge uh amounts of mortgage backed securities and bragging about an email, none of them were ever charged and prosecuted.
	And this is the heartbeat of the American system of justice.
	That we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men.
	But as long as only certain people get investigated and looked at and not others, uh, it's gonna further erode the confidence that people have in our system.
	Listen, thank you as always.
	Love having you on and uh the insight that you provide is is just amazing.
	It it's absolutely amazing, so we appreciate it.
	Um have a merry Christmas, Peter.
	Thank you, brother.
	Take care.
	You got it.
	Peter Schweitzer, he's a creator of the documentary, The Creepy Line.
	Uh, he's also the president uh of the Government Accountability Institute and co-author of Compromised.
	This is Jonathan Gillam.
	Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	And make sure you call in.
	Tell us.
	You gotta call in.
	What your worst Christmas gift was.
	And did you return it?
	No.
	Did you re-gift it?
	Oh, regift it or read it.
	Returning is fine, but when you re-gift, that's deception.
	Yeah, I like that.
	See that?
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	Well, I know one gift that you won't re-gift.
	That's Sheep No More, baby.com.
	Everywhere.
	Go get it.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Sean Hannity Radio Show 800-941-7326.
	I'm going to go to the phone lines, and I want to hear about the worst Chris Christmas present you ever got and did you re-gift it.
	So let's go.
	Let's just go straight down the line.
	Let's start with Dwayne in Ohio.
	Go ahead, Dwayne.
	Yeah, I I re-gifted it to my dad, and he wore it every Christmas for, you know, five or six years.
	Uh was it?
	What'd you re-gift?
	What was it?
	It was a sweater.
	It was uh it was the ugliest sweater I ever got in my life, but it had Santa Claus with a Rudolph nose on it.
	And it was two sizes too big for me.
	So I gave it to my dad the next year.
	One man's trash is another man's treasure.
	Hey, God bless you, Dwayne.
	That's the way you're supposed to do it.
	Let's go to Maryland and Mississippi.
	Go ahead, Marilyn.
	Hello.
	What's going on there?
	Well, I I didn't tell you lady, but my grandmother about five years beforehand received a pair of pajamas.
	She's an old lady, and they're very, you know, they have flimsy pajamas, and they had a pull in them.
	And she wrapped them up and gave them to me for Christmas.
	No, I didn't re I didn't rewrap them, I just threw them away because I knew where they came from.
	So my grandmother was trying she's very frugal.
	My granddaddy had passed like 40 years earlier.
	So uh yeah, they had a pull in them.
	I could tell they were definitely used.
	Well, I gotta go right now, we'll end with that one, and uh we'll come back from the break and talk a little bit more about some of these things.
	It's John the Gillam filling in from my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness.
	It's the Christmas present you'll want to give.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan Gillam filling in from my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Call in numbers 800 9417 326.
	We're going to talk about I'm going to give you the ability to tell everybody about the worst Christmas present you ever got and did you re-gift it.
	But I have to tell you a little bit of breaking news here is that Mattis has announced that he'll be retiring in February.
	And uh I've got my own opinions about that but we'll save those for now and we will go and go straight to the phone calls.
	I scared Linda right there I think.
	Let's go I'll save that for now.
	We're going to have a jolly good time right now.
	So let's go to Calvin in California.
	Calvin, you're on the air with like 10 20 million people I think maybe 30.
	Go ahead.
	Oh right.
	Knock it out the park.
	Trying to make me nervous just a little hey Merry Christmas brother.
	Thank you and same to you hey my worst Christmas present was a Grinch doll.
	I'm in my 50s now and I got this in my mid-20s and not because I'm a Grinch because I love Christmas but I think it's because I like the movie so much they bought me a Grinch doll and I'm like what am I supposed to do with this?
	You don't you don't give a Christmas decoration for a for a Christmas present.
	What am I going to do with this thing?
	Interesting and what did you do with it?
	I burned it's what you do with bad Christmas presents you burn them.
	Exactly Linda's coming back in right now he burned his Christmas present because he didn't like it.
	It was a Grinch I listen that's the way it goes hey Calvin God bless you have a Merry Christmas out there in California all right?
	Hey back at you.
	Oh ho ho let's go to uh Michael in Jacksonville is that Jacksonville Florida Yes sir my worst present ever was a wooden bowl that was given to me by my niece.
	We have a large family so we started drawing names so he wouldn't have to buy presents for everyone and I opened this thing and I'm like okay it's a bowl.
	She's like well I I saw it at this craft show and I really liked it and um the guy even signed it and dated it.
	So I'm waiting for the day that I draw her name so I can return it.
	So you will re-gift it to the person that thought it was great absolutely every year I I hope and wish that I get her name and it hasn't happened yet.
	I've had this thing for three or four years now and uh hopefully I live long enough to give it back to her.
	You just you should just leave it in her bag.
	Hey God bless you have a Merry Christmas down there in Jacksonville.
	You too a lot of great people down there.
	Let's go to Aaron in Tennessee.
	Go ahead Aaron good to talk to you.
	You too well I can't really I can't really think about the worst Christmas present I ever got um I I guess I've never been the type to really think of them that way but I the worst Christmas present I ever gave was a cu was a cousin of mine that wanted a big TV for a room.
	Now, of course, this was back before the flat screens and all that stuff.
	And I got a big TV box, and I turned around and I wrapped it up, but I also wrapped up boxes inside it and kept wrapping and wrapping all nine yards all the way down to one of those old black-and-white three-inch Walkman TVs.
	And I actually made sure the box weighed the same and everything else.
	She was all excited when she got it open and everything else, but then the next box down and the next box down and but uh you know my my thought on that was that it at the time she was still in school she didn't need a TV in a room anyway.
	Now are you originally from Tennessee?
	Uh no I'm actually originally from Wyoming.
	Um I have um I've actually uh reviewed your book and and I was the city candidate last year that that that was really excited about your book.
	Awesome my name's Aaron Mediger and I am running again since Lamar Alexander decided to retire too.
	Well you just keep it going I just want to know if this sense of humor came from Wyoming or did it come from Tennessee.
	Oh I've got a good sense of humor all the way around you know some of it's a little dark and some of it's a little you know that I'm gonna have to if I win you know I don't want Peter Schweitzer to be right about me.
	There we go.
	Which which I'm the kind of candidate he won't have to write about unless he's writing a good news book.
	But you know, we'll leave that at that.
	There you go, brother.
	Hey, thank you very much.
	Have a Merry Christmas and uh be safe in Tennessee.
	Happy New Year and God bless.
	You got it.
	Let's go to Gary in Pennsylvania.
	Go ahead, Gary.
	Hey, Jonathan, how are you doing?
	What's going on, buddy?
	Uh I'm still laughing about that guy burning the Grinch.
	Maybe you had some anger issues buried inside.
	I don't know.
	That's hysterical.
	But anyways, my present is the worst and the weirdest because when I was in my 30s, my mother, one of the presents she gives me is a pair of pajamas.
	Now the reason that's weird is I'm in my 30s and I haven't slept in PJs since I was like 11 or 12.
	So I gifted it to Goodwill.
	Well, there you go.
	That's good.
	You know what's listen, I'm gonna be honest with you about Goodwill.
	I love it.
	I really think you can go in there.
	All these people spend all this money on these grunge pants, you you can normally find all that stuff in there.
	I just don't know why goodwill repurposes men's underwear that's hanging on the hangers.
	Don't forget that Bill Clinton also donated his used underwear.
	Did he really?
	Yeah, no, that was a uh a big thing back in the Clinton years.
	They donated their underwear and deducted it on their taxes.
	We've gone out a dark alley in this conversation.
	Listen, Gary, best of your mom.
	Have a merry Christmas.
	And uh, you know what?
	You should post pictures of those PJs from now, and that's what I think you should do.
	Let's go to uh Mike in Santa Barbara.
	Go ahead, Mike.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Uh the worst gift that I ever got was about uh a couple years ago where I got this uh Hillary candidacy.
	Yep, and then I re-gifted her to Chappaquan.
	Yes.
	And Bill's underwear, evidently as well, because we just uh I don't know.
	That's anyway.
	Hey, listen.
	That was part that was part of the deal.
	That was part of the deal, and that was a that was a very good Christmas.
	You did a very I gotta tell you, Mike, you did a great job in re-gifting that.
	Give it back to them.
	And uh and God bless you, have a Merry Christmas.
	Thank you.
	You got it.
	Uh, we still got some time.
	Let's go to Gary and Virginia.
	If this is the Gary that I think it is.
	Gary, is that you?
	That's me, Bubba.
	You f how do you find me on show?
	You follow me on every show that I that I host.
	I know, but I told you I told you a couple days ago when you're on a web that I probably wouldn't be able to get through.
	You did today.
	The worst present I've ever got is my wife.
	Oh, you're gonna get you're gonna get smacked for that one.
	You still married too?
	She's not she didn't know.
	I still have her after 34 years, so I'll never re-gift her.
	She might re-gift you now.
	Well, no, she's not looking at it, but she won't even know I did his phone call, so there you go.
	Well, there you go.
	There you go.
	Oh my gosh.
	Tell Linda and you say I'll tell you guys the whole staff that show and all the other Patreon channels.
	Merry Christmas.
	Be safe, please.
	You too, my friend, and thank you for all the calls that you give uh whenever I'm hosting all the different shows.
	I can't thank you enough, my friend.
	Have a Merry Christmas and give your wife some love.
	Boy, it's gonna be a long Christmas legacy.
	My son's looking at me.
	I'll say, keep your mouth shut.
	Oh man.
	All right, God bless you, brother.
	All right, brother.
	All right, take care.
	Let's go to David in Massachusetts.
	David, what's going on?
	Hey, Jonathan, how are you doing?
	I'm doing good and yourself.
	Good, thanks.
	If you uh you'll hear a little voice back here, I'm driving my kid home from daycare.
	But uh the worst Christmas present I ever had actually makes me blush talking about it now.
	It's quite a few years ago.
	Um, my soon-to-be mother-in-law.
	So I had just uh started dating a girl, and we moved in together, and I want to say it was my second Christmas uh with the family.
	And uh we were at her house at the my soon to be mother-in-law's house with the grandmother as well and my wife.
	Sitting on the couch, the last gift I opened is a crocheted penis warmer.
	What on who made it?
	Are you sure that's what it was and not like a banana holder or some kind of like it was no a pot holder for a skillet?
	It would have been a very uh interesting shape skillet if it was, but no, it started, so she bought it somewhere, but it was crocheted.
	And uh I I'm blushing now, telling the story, probably as bad as I was the day that I opened it.
	And uh I'm standing there, I'm sitting there, I'm holding this thing in my hand.
	I couldn't even believe it.
	And totally deadpan, she looks at me and she says, I hope it's not too big.
	Oh my I, you know, so welcome to the family.
	Now, is that your current wife?
	Is that your wife or is that somebody else?
	Uh It was my it's my wife's mother.
	So it is a woman you married, though.
	That's her mom.
	Yes.
	So there's no way that this is this phone call is not going to get back to her.
	I can guarantee you this is going to get back to her.
	And I would love to find out if she thought that was um like something that you put on a skillet or something like that.
	I I'd like to know the rationale.
	She completely knew and she did it totally on purpose.
	She is a rascal, that one.
	All right, listen.
	Yeah.
	Dave, have a merry Christmas.
	You've completely shocked everybody in the audience that's listening to this show right now, so God bless you.
	God bless you too, sir.
	Take care.
	All right, buddy.
	All right.
	If somebody can top that one, that was not only funny, it was very creepy as well.
	Um there's so many things I could say that I would never get to host this show again if I said them right now.
	Let's go to uh Ray in Utah.
	Utah is a calm state, so it's got to be cleaner than that one.
	Go ahead, Ray.
	I'm not sure.
	Hey.
	Um several years back, um, we were my wife and I was remodeling our home, and uh a bathroom came up.
	And so anyway, I opened up my big flat Christmas present, and it's a toilet seat.
	A toilet seat.
	That is wow.
	What is was it at least padded?
	No.
	Oh my lord.
	Oh, why wouldn't toilet seat.
	Okay, uh I have a uh, you know, I have a degree in psychology, right?
	So I'm gonna assume be honest with you.
	Whoever gave that to you hates you.
	That's my wife.
	Okay, maybe she's sending you a message.
	Maybe you need to keep the toilet seat lid down.
	Maybe that's what the message was there.
	I don't know.
	Hey, God bless you, Ray.
	Have a merry Christmas, my friend.
	Hey, same to you, thank you.
	I'm gonna take I'll take one one more of these, and then we'll go to a break.
	Let's see here.
	Let me look what we got here.
	Um I'm gonna do real three or three of real quick.
	Let's go to Will in Mississippi.
	Go ahead, Will.
	Hey, Merry Christmas.
	I think I've got everybody beat.
	What'd you get?
	Uh it was a uh company Christmas party last week, and I got what happened by Hillary Rodham Clinton.
	Oh, I would have jumped out the window.
	Or I would have fallen down, had a heart attack and sued him.
	It was absolutely awful.
	Hey, God bless you, brother.
	Have a Merry Christmas.
	Yeah, Merry Christmas, Carla.
	Let's go to Karen in Indiana.
	Go ahead, Karen.
	Good evening.
	Uh back in the 70s, I was dating a very nice man, and he bought me for Christmas an olive green blender.
	And what made it even funnier was a few nights later we were watching the Bob Newhart show, and Bob bought Emily a blender for Christmas, and she was not happy.
	We watched that show with utter silence.
	You should have, when the show is over, you should have handed the blitter blender and said, Go make me a smoothie, buddy.
	But I don't think they had smoothies back then.
	All right.
	Well Merry Christmas on that one.
	All right, let's go to Rick in California, the last one.
	Rick, go ahead.
	Thank you very much.
	I'm a bass fisherman, and my family knows it.
	And since they opened a bass pro shop, they get me crap.
	I have wooden fish, I got plastic fish, I got singing fish, you got fish magnets for the refrigerators, fish pencils, pillows, fishing signs, fish.
	I got more crap in my office stacking up my desk.
	I'm gonna quit fishing.
	Hey, Rick, at least you didn't get a penis warmer from your mother-in-law, okay?
	So look, you got that going for you.
	Hey, God bless you.
	Have a great Christmas, Rick.
	You too, brother.
	All right, buddy.
	Let's go to a break.
	We're gonna come back and finish up the show.
	Uh, this is Jonathan Gillam.
	That that that whole uh thing is really still got me going.
	I knew that was gonna be a good subject.
	You did really good uh in picking that out, Linda.
	You can find me on Twitter, J. Gilliam underscore seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam, also on Instagram and YouTube at Jonathan T. Gilliam, and go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	Talk a little bit more about that and uh wish you some Merry Christmas uh things, and we'll come back in just a minute.
	This is John the Gillam, ending the show for Sean Handy.
	This would be my last show before uh we go to Christmas.
	And I just want to say um again, I want to uh reach out to everybody and say thank you for all the donations you've given to my sister Alison, uh, who was uh almost beaten to death a week ago today uh down in Florida.
	And you can go to GoFund GoFundMe.com and then type in the search Allison A-L-I-S-S-A-N, A-L-I-S-S-A-N, and that'll bring you up to her page.
	And we can't thank you enough because she is going to have tremendous, tremendous medical bills, and I can't thank you enough for that.
	I also want to say go to justice for Eddie.com, Navy SEAL that's being uh held.
	Uh it's ridiculous.
	His command, uh, Rosenblum and and uh who's the Commodore out there.
	I don't know what you're doing, sir, but it certainly ain't standing up for the brotherhood.
	And uh I don't like the way this thing is unfolding.
	It's it's not right.
	And the people that are going around spreading rumors about stuff that they have no idea about, you should stop it.
	All right, that's not the way the brotherhood's supposed to work, if there is in fact still one.
	Um the last thing, Sheep know more, the art of awareness and attack survival.
	I talk about my book a lot, but I'm telling you right now, if you gift it to your kids, you may very well save your life.
	If you give it to your mayor, you'll make your city safer.
	If you give it to your chief of police, the parishioners in your church or the preacher, uh, if you work in a hospital, if you're a teacher, get this book.
	I could go on and on about it, but I believe in it that much.
	I put my name behind it.
	I wrote it, I didn't have any type of a ghostwriter, and Sean Hannity wrote the forward because he believed in what it said.
	So Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	I'll teach you how to divide your life into sectors, and then you take those sectors and determine what an attacker would do and how you defend against it.
	Sheep know more, the art of awareness and attack survival.
	Merry Christmas to everybody.
	I can't wait to see you again.
	I'll be back here on the 28th.
	Check it out, come back, we'll have a great show, and Merry Christmas.
	Thank you, Lord, for sending your son Jesus down for us.
	And I'll see you next time on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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