Sean Hannity Show - The Meaning of Opportunity - 12.20

Dec. 20, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show

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The Meaning of Opportunity - 12.20

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	This is Jonathan Gillum back in for my good buddy and the powerful Sean Hannity on the universally known Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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	This is going to be a fun show.
	I could tell it's going to be a fun show.
	Should we start with the fact that three seconds ago you didn't have your headphones on?
	And I was worried you weren't.
	I was letting the people, you know, I do the little Facebook things.
	I was letting the people hear the beginning of the show.
	This person here almost had a car in.
	It's like, um, hello, hello, we're live intense.
	Okay.
	I like it like that.
	I like to keep, you know, Ethan on his feet and his toes and Linda panicking.
	And, you know, listen, you've been on conference calls all day.
	I have to make it exciting for you, right?
	That's the way it works.
	I'm just glad I didn't eat lunch yet.
	That was about to get really uncomfortable.
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	Sit back.
	Now's your chance because Gillum's in the house and the truth has arrived.
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	That's Jonathan T. Gilliam.
	Listen, why am I so giddy?
	Well, partially because being around Linda and Hannity got me sick.
	And so now I'm now feeling the brunt of it after a week.
	So I'm, you know, go figure the busiest day for me in the year on radio and I start to get a cold.
	But I'm going to make it through this just fine.
	The other thing is the reason I'm giddy is because it's almost Christmas.
	It's almost Christmas.
	Don't you just love this time of the year when there's so much love in the atmosphere and there is so much hatred in Washington, D.C.
	I mean, this is what's so interesting about, I was talking about this with a friend the other day about how, you know, it used to be that Christmas was, you know, this entire like mini season within winter.
	And everybody got all excited about Christmas and they would do things for other people and they were good to other people.
	And now what's interesting is, I mean, people don't even, they don't leave their couch to be good.
	You know, they don't leave their couch.
	They'll wish you Merry Christmas through a text or through Facebook, but they don't make facial contact with anybody.
	You know, everybody's more concerned with their friends on Facebook and Twitter and those types of outlets than they do personal contact.
	I've literally seen people, you know, enraged right around the Christmas time because of traffic.
	When you think, you know, listen, let's let other people go.
	Let's calm down.
	This is a good time to reflect on what Christmas is all about.
	But, you know, it's gotten shorter and shorter.
	I'm sure on Sunday, everybody's going to be very happy and very loving.
	It's almost Christmas.
	We've got to be good to people.
	But this used to be a longer season.
	And as the politics and the divisiveness in this country increase, the time that we spend reflecting on what Christmas is all about decreases.
	And I find that kind of heartbreaking a little bit.
	So I'm trying to extend that.
	I'm trying to be excited about it now because, let's face it, if you're listening to this show, most likely, you were freeborn.
	You were born in a country where, you know, you didn't have to worry about oppression.
	You didn't have to worry about the military in the streets.
	You didn't have to worry about being told when you have to get in the line to get bread, for instance.
	And also, you know, if you're like me, I grew up extremely poor.
	You were given an outlet called opportunity to dig your way out of poverty and be what you want to be.
	That's the great thing about this country is you can dream it and you can do it if you work hard enough.
	So, you know, I have been impressed, and I got to tell you guys a little bit about this story real quick.
	I've been very impressed with the giving spirit.
	I can't go into great detail about the story about my sister who was beaten last week almost to death.
	She's my half sister.
	I have five sisters and no brothers.
	That's another reason why I'm a little on edge all the time.
	And that's why I became a Navy SEAL because I got beat up by girls my whole life.
	I had to prove my manhood.
	But my dear sister Allison was beat up down in Florida last week, crushed trachea, crushed her skull, broke her jaw, knocked a bunch of her teeth out.
	And she's been in and out of a comatose state for a week now.
	And when I put that up online for a GoFundMe, because her medical bills are going to be ridiculous.
	And we've all kind of come together and all my sisters and myself to help her out.
	And the giving that's come in from that has been remarkable.
	It's been overwhelming.
	And I got a tweet last night that literally stopped me in my tracks and choked me up.
	Now, I never thought that Chris Cuomo from CNN would choke me up.
	But at the same time, I got a tweet from Sebastian Gorca in support of my sister and from Chris Cuomo from CNN.
	And I criticize him all the time.
	I mean, I lay into that guy constantly.
	And the fact that he tweeted out that people should support me and my sister, it just showed me that even regardless of how ridiculous we get in the way we feel about politics and we may not agree on anything.
	And I've lobbed some harsh criticism at Chris Cuomo.
	The fact is, he put all that stuff to the side and came out and said you should support him and his sister.
	I literally was stopped in my tracks.
	And so I want to say thank you to him, to Sebastian Gorca, to all the other people that have come out, whether you're verified on Twitter or not.
	The fact is that people have given of themselves.
	I feel just as strongly about people who say that I can't give any money, but I'm going to pray for your sister.
	I'm fine with that.
	That's remarkable.
	And again, it brings me back to the fact that we live in a free country.
	You know, again, Chris Cuomo may have different views than I do, but he's free to reach out to me and say, you know, I'm praying for you or, you know, let's give to this.
	I'm free to respond to that in an honest way.
	You're free to tell me you want to pray.
	I haven't asked anybody what their religion is.
	I haven't turned you guys over to the religion police like they have in Saudi Arabia.
	I've literally been shocked and had to sit down many times because of the things that people have said and done for me, for my sister, but because they trust me.
	And that says a lot about the connection that I have with the people that listen to me and the fact that people in this country can, they can stand together.
	And so I only want to broach the subject, and I'm not going to broach the subject anymore about the wall, go fund me.
	I know that I've been critical on it on Twitter, but I want you all to know that I'm not critical of building a wall.
	I want the wall built.
	I'm in support of President Trump and building the wall.
	And I'm not against people funding this.
	What bothers me is that we pay taxes.
	Half of your paycheck goes to taxes to the federal government and to state and local.
	You then go out and you pay sales tax.
	And everything you do is taxed.
	If you pay into your retirement like I did in the FBI and then you leave early and I got this genius thing I wanted to start a company.
	So I withdrew my retirement.
	I got taxed unbelievably on that money.
	We pay taxes.
	The money is there.
	And what bothers me about this is that people out of the goodness of their heart are giving money to something where money already exists.
	And I appreciate what people are doing.
	And obviously it's working because the pressure is on.
	I think President Trump has seen this, that people are, listen, they're giving $50, $75 a person, and it's already $5 million.
	We're not talking about a few people here.
	I mean, I've seen political decisions made over the fact that 100 people have called in, or you see TV programs canceled because 1,000 people wrote in and said, I don't want to watch that.
	This is a lot of people.
	So I want people to understand that.
	You know, if we disagree on something, like Chris Cuomo and I on majority of things, we can still work together on things that are important.
	I believe in the wall.
	You believe in the wall.
	You funded it.
	I didn't.
	And the reason I didn't is because I believe we pay that money in taxes, and the pressure should be on the politicians to step forward.
	Now, I know that's even more of a dream than the American public funding the wall, getting politicians to do what they're supposed to do.
	So I don't want people, when I tweet something out, I want you to talk to me, converse with me, have dialogue, because that's the most important thing that we can do.
	If you disagree with something I say on the radio, let me know.
	I may disagree right back, but that is how we get to a point where we're getting up off the couch, where we're actually saying hello to each other again, where we're actually standing hand in hand against tyrannical governments where they want to take guns away, for instance.
	By the way, I saw a story where a guy went and turned his old rusty gun in, got the money, and went and bought a better gun, which I think is very smart.
	If you can fool the system and the system's full and you go do it.
	But we need to get to a point again, folks, where I like to say we need to go back to the future.
	We need a revolvolution.
	We need to go back to where the founding fathers thought, the way that they were, the way that they approached problems.
	And you know what they did?
	They didn't have the comfort of fast food drive-thru or their couches that they could sit on and change 400 channels on their cable TV, most of which are the same now, it seems like.
	I mean, there's no reality shows unless it's about Alaska or Moonshine.
	It's just...
	But the founding fathers didn't have that.
	They weren't comfortable.
	And as I've always said, comfort kills.
	The men that make it through SEAL training, they aren't comfortable.
	They're driven.
	And the people that win freedom and establish countries are not comfortable.
	They are driven.
	And I have to say that if American people want a wall, you will be driven.
	And if President Trump wants a wall, he will be driven.
	Because this is the bottom line, folks.
	If you want to stay free, you have to fight for freedom.
	If you want to be secure, you have to analyze the threat.
	You have to look around and say, what's going on here?
	And then you fix it.
	And if President Trump wants to stay in office, he will do what he said he would do.
	Build a wall and do exactly what he did to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office when they tried to come down on him and say, we want to have this in private.
	He said, this is transparency.
	It doesn't get any more transparent than this.
	And then he did the most, I think, heroic leadership thing I've seen in modern time.
	He said, I will own it.
	I will shut it down and I will own it.
	I can guarantee you, President Trump, if you lead like that, which you have, I'm not criticizing you on this one, you will get reelected.
	There won't be any problem.
	That's the interesting thing.
	You are the only president in modern history that if you do what you said you were going to do and stop caring about politics, you will automatically get reelected.
	But if you play politics, you're going to have trouble in 2020.
	That's the way this works.
	Everything you've done has been backwards as far as politics.
	Why stop now?
	Keep pushing forward.
	This is Jonathan Gillum.
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	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Calling number is 800-941-7326-800-941-Sean.
	And, you know, listen, folks, as I was talking about before, before we went to break, this shouldn't just be the season of Christmas and the season of giving.
	We should get in the habit of making it the season of standing together.
	Now, one thing I just got through trashing on social media a little bit and how people will jump to conclusions about things.
	One thing that's really good about social media is that if enough of you respond to a politician or a celebrity because you don't like something, trust me when I tell you this, it gets noticed.
	And you do have a voice when you unify.
	And that's an important thing is that you realize that all this stuff that you're seeing about the wall, all the stuff that you're seeing about politicians and rhinos and Democrats, you know, whether they're back it or they won't back it.
	And the way they maneuver is so visible now because of social media, because of media in general.
	It's so visible that if they care or if they don't care, you don't see Louis Gomer out there being wishy-washy on stuff.
	You see Louis Gomer, you know, this is how I am, or this is who I am.
	This is how I feel, and this is what I believe.
	He doesn't sway from that, but that's not the case with a lot of these other politicians.
	It's not.
	And the great thing about social media is that it really does, it really does help you have a voice if you get unified.
	And that is the key.
	And that's what I want to continue to press upon you for this show, that over this Christmas season, you need to get unified.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Listen, I am going to get to calls today.
	So call in 800-941-7326 and go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
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	We'll be right back.
	Sean Hannity is on right now.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Call in number 800-941-7326.
	Go ahead and get a pen, piece of paper.
	You write this down.
	800-941-Sean.
	And that's S-E-A-N, by the way, for all of you that want to confuse how to spell Sean.
	I hope you know how to spell Sean Hannity by this point.
	So before I get started talking, I just wanted to, you know, everybody knows Linda.
	She's a producer of the show.
	She is the master of the universe, really, if you know Linda.
	She is the, you know how certain people you say, she just acts like she knows everything.
	Well, Linda actually does know everything.
	I really do.
	Oh, man.
	And am I doing good?
	Am I doing good?
	No, I tell you, I got to give you a raise.
	So I wanted to do an impersonation.
	Her son is amazing.
	How old is he now?
	He's almost three and a half.
	So he's three and a half, but literally he is as he looks like Lou Ferrigno in a diaper.
	I mean, he's huge.
	So I've been working on an impersonation.
	I saw a video of him at school, and he was like four feet taller than all the other kids.
	And it was like this.
	I'm walking here.
	I'm walking here.
	The funny thing is, is that he is a total mimicker.
	I mean, he mimics everything.
	It's hysterical.
	And I do hear him saying things like he has a giant toy phone.
	It's like one of those giant phones and like the numbers and the letters and everything.
	And he'll take the phone.
	He'll go, yeah, that sounds fantastic.
	Let's work that out.
	And I'm like, oh, my God.
	He literally is listening to me on the phone.
	It's just hysterical.
	But I can't wait to see what his freaking vocabulary is going to be later on.
	Listen, I have a very strict rule in my house.
	Very strict, okay?
	There's no cursing around my son.
	That's good.
	I don't swear at all.
	My son goes to a Christian school.
	That's good.
	Okay, he's learning all about the baby Jesus, which dovetails nicely into my story.
	Yes, go ahead.
	So today, today is my son's last day of preschool for the year.
	And instead of doing Christmas celebration, they do a birthday party for baby Jesus to get back to what it's all about.
	Awesome.
	Love it.
	And we're doing that at our house too.
	Okay, fine.
	We're doing cupcakes, but whatever.
	So we get to, I get there a little early because we were allowed to come just in time for chapel.
	And the vicar sits down and he's reading about, you know, Mary and Joseph and the manger and all this stuff, right?
	And he says, oh, Mary and Joseph.
	And it's 10 little three-year-olds.
	But mommy and the daddy.
	And it's like adorable, you know?
	And then he goes, and this was the day that the baby Jesus was born.
	And Liam, without missing a bee, goes, the baby Jesus is born.
	See, I got it right.
	My impression was right.
	He starts clapping and he jumps out of his seat and the pastor looks at me and he goes, wow.
	Merry Christmas.
	I just was like.
	Make sure he ducks so he doesn't hit his head on the top of the door.
	I literally, I never laughed so hard in my life.
	And he goes, mommy, did you hear?
	The baby Jesus is coming.
	Isn't it great?
	And I thought, this is the most precious moment.
	Like, he's so serious.
	This is all he knows.
	He's only three and a half.
	Yeah.
	You know, and you just start young.
	And he was so excited.
	It was the cutest thing ever.
	My mom was there too.
	We were just, it was just adorable.
	It was really precious.
	You know, they say, and everybody probably knows this already, but I did study psychology and political science in college.
	And they say that in the first five years of kids' life, they're practically, they're a genius.
	They learn a language.
	They learn how to walk.
	And adults who've had strokes never really come back from that in a lot of ways.
	So it's pretty amazing what they pick up along the way just on their own.
	It's amazing.
	Are we going to go to the Trump thing right now?
	Yeah, the president is speaking, so let's all pray.
	Let's do that and let's hear what he's got to say.
	That the president will speak first on the matters at hand and then to the farm bill.
	Here's the president.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much, please.
	That was from the Emmys.
	I sang Green Acres and received a very nice award that night.
	That was really great.
	So we had that.
	Somebody had it.
	I said, put it on.
	Not too much of it, but put it on.
	Congratulations, my man.
	Well, it's great to be here.
	We have a lot of big things happening.
	And I want to thank our great vice president, Mike Pence, for joining us.
	Terrific job.
	Loves our farmers like I do.
	And Zippy Duval.
	Where's Zippy?
	Zippy.
	Zippy.
	Hi, Zippy.
	What a good name.
	Good job, too.
	John Heisdorfer.
	John Bodie.
	Thank you, John.
	Jimmy Music, I love that name.
	Should be a singer with that name.
	Probably is.
	Kevin Kester.
	Chuck Connor.
	Chuck.
	Any relation to Chuck Conner, the great actor, huh?
	He was pretty good.
	Randy Mooney and Jim Heimerle.
	Thank you all for being here.
	That's a great group of people.
	That's a great group.
	And some of our great political geniuses we have with us today.
	And you think this was an easy one?
	You know, they think it was easy.
	It was not an easy one.
	But we have to take care of our farmers and our ranchers, and we will take care of them.
	And not only is it a bill, it's a great bill for them.
	So we're honored by it.
	And instrumental people, leader Mitch McConnell, who may have the easiest job in the United States, especially around the border.
	Thanks, Mitch.
	Good man.
	John Bozeman.
	John.
	John, thank you.
	Good.
	We got it there, John.
	John Hovind.
	Thank you, John.
	Great.
	Spent a lot of time together.
	Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith.
	She had a very easy race, right?
	And she ended up winning by a lot.
	She ended up winning by a lot, Cindy.
	Great job.
	Debbie Stabenow, and she's tough, I can tell you.
	We competed with her.
	She's tough and she's smart and does a great job.
	Thank you very much, Debbie.
	Really good job.
	Ralph Abraham.
	Ralph, thank you.
	Rick Allen.
	Jody Arrington.
	Andy Barr.
	I was Andy Barr.
	Was Andy.
	Oh, did I do a good job for you?
	Did I do a good job?
	You're one of the only congressional congressmen that I could have, I'll tell you, the White House told us the first thing he'll do is go straight into the matters at hand, and then he'll go to the farm bill.
	That clearly wasn't true.
	So the moment the president gets to the matters at hand, we will go back to the president immediately.
	First, we've gotten.
	So this is Jonathan Gillum in for Sean Hannity.
	We're going to do the same thing that Shepherd Smith was just talking about.
	When he starts getting into it and stops announcing everybody, we're going to go back to the live feed and listen to him.
	Call in numbers 800-941-7326-800-941, Sean.
	And, you know, it's interesting because everybody is on pins and needles about this presser because the president's got so much to say.
	I really hope that the same guy that was in the Oval Office against Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer comes out at this press conference.
	It's going to be pretty amazing.
	So I'm going to start on something.
	I may have to get pulled off because of the live presser, but just stand by.
	You know, I want to talk pretty quick about this, and I'm going to talk about this a little bit more a little bit later on with Peter Schweitzer.
	It turns out, you know, that this whole dossier, everything that everybody suspected all along, this is what's incredible about politics now.
	Everything that you suspected as happening has happened.
	And when it comes to the dossier, you know, there's some incredible reporting that has come out about this.
	McCain Associates shared unverified steel dossier with BuzzFeed court filings are saying now.
	It's also saying that John McCain, potentially Paul Ryan, and also another congressman.
	I'll get his name up here in just a second.
	But they were all informed of this dossier.
	Yeah, it was, let's see here.
	They say it was shared on December 13th with unnamed British security officials.
	This was December 13th of 2016.
	GOP Illinois Representative Adam Kitzinger.
	He's the guy that you see on TV all the time.
	I think way too much.
	That's my opinion on it.
	Senior Director for Russian Affairs at the National Security Council, Celeste Wallander, and House Speaker Paul Ryan's Chief of Staff, John Burks.
	Now, Paul Ryan's team says that this did not happen.
	But according to the documents that were read in court, it did happen.
	I wonder if that has anything to do with Paul Ryan's last presser being canceled.
	It was delayed for a while, and then it was canceled.
	It looks like the president's about to speak now.
	Let's go to him.
	We're stopping them.
	It's a process you wouldn't believe how tough.
	But we're stopping them in record numbers.
	At this moment, there is a debate over funding border security and the wall.
	Also called, so that I give them a little bit of an out, steel slats.
	We don't use the word wall necessarily, but it has to be something special to do the job.
	Steel slats.
	I've made my position very clear.
	Any measure that funds the government must include border security.
	It has to.
	Not for political purposes, but for our country, for the safety of our community.
	This is not merely my campaign promise.
	This is the promise every lawmaker made.
	It is the solemn promise to protect and defend the United States of America, and it is our sacred obligation.
	We have no choice.
	For decades, Washington abandoned this commitment and allowed millions and millions of people to enter our country illegally and over the objections of the American people.
	No one voiced or voted for a policy.
	No one endorsed this policy and no one ratified this policy.
	It was a total assault on our democracy itself.
	Illegal immigration costs our nation $275 billion a year.
	You hear many different numbers.
	You can say billions and billions, but the number that I hear most accurate is $275 billion a year at least.
	Millions of jobs and thousands of innocent lives.
	More than 90% of heroin comes across our southern border.
	Heroin deaths have tripled since 2002.
	Every week, this illegal heroin kills at least 300 Americans and costs our nation over $230 billion to $289 billion, or nearly $5 billion a week.
	I spoke with President Xi of China, and he has agreed to make fentanyl of the big, big problems.
	And probably, I think it's just gone to number one, kills 80,000 people a year in our country.
	He's going to make that a major crime in China.
	And if you get caught, you pay a major penalty.
	It's called the death penalty.
	And it wasn't listed as a crime until I spoke to him.
	So I appreciate President Xi for doing that.
	That's a tremendous, that's going to have a tremendous impact.
	Every day, 10 known or suspected terrorists try to gain entry into our country.
	Every day, 2,000 illegal aliens try to cross our borders.
	They try.
	We get most of them.
	It's hard without a wall.
	Every year, 50,000 illegal children are smuggled by coyotes and criminals into our country.
	In the last two years alone, ICE officers arrested criminal aliens charged with or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
	It's rough stuff.
	Yet the Democrats continue to oppose border security no matter how many innocent people get hurt or die.
	Ridiculously and dangerously, certain people want open borders, which allow potentially massive crime.
	Our nation has spent trillions of dollars and sacrificed thousands of brave young lives defending the borders of foreign nations.
	I am asking Congress to defend the border of our nation for a tiny fraction, tiny fraction of the cost.
	Essential to border security is a powerful physical barrier.
	Walls work, whether we like it or not.
	They work better than anything.
	In Israel, 99.9% successful.
	Think of it.
	I spoke to Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, two days ago.
	We were talking about it.
	He said it's 99.9%.
	I mean, he came up.
	I didn't ask.
	I said 99.9% successful.
	We have proposed a steel slat barrier to halt.
	This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
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	This is Jonathan Gillam back in for Sean Hannity, 800-941-7326 is the call-in number.
	When we had to go away from the live feed there, this is the important thing that Trump took away or that you could take away about Trump is that he said every lawmaker has sworn to protect the United States.
	I wholeheartedly agree with him.
	In fact, it's mandated in the Constitution that public safety be taken care of.
	So I do appreciate that he said that.
	He's moving forward on this wall.
	I hope that he continues to stick by his guns and he will get reelected in 2020.
	There's no way he can be stopped if he does this.
	I can guarantee it.
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	This is your good friend Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	Calling number 800-941-7326.
	I promise I will get to your phone calls here shortly.
	But first, you know, every Thursday, if you tune in regularly, you will hear me, I should say, Daniel McLaughlin and myself.
	Did I say your last name wrong?
	Did I say it right?
	McLaughlin.
	Yeah, McLaughlin.
	You got it.
	Hey.
	Yeah.
	So we kind of debate.
	I'd say every Thursday, but you're so, you know, friendly that it's hard to really full-on debate you.
	So that's why I figured I would reach out to DC McAllister because she's ruthless.
	And I figured, let's bring her on and let her debate you.
	So welcome to you both.
	Thank you for having me on HPC.
	So listen, this is what I wanted to do with you guys.
	I wanted to start off with a little bit different than the normal debate because we had a conversation, all three of us, last week, and it was fascinating.
	I wouldn't say that everybody agrees on everything, but the fact is that I discovered by talking to you all together that everybody has their own way of coming about what they believe.
	They have their own way of deciding I like that or I don't like that.
	And what I like about you two is that you're free thinkers.
	You're not just ruled by your ideology.
	One's conservative, one's liberal.
	You actually try to think your way through these things.
	I don't think Danielle thinks her way through it enough.
	I'd like to see you think more through it, but that's just because.
	I'm working on it, Jonathan.
	Every day.
	Before I listen to you, right?
	Exactly.
	So let's start with you.
	I'll give you a chance to talk.
	Let's start with you.
	Sure.
	And you tell me and tell the audience, you know, how did you come about your ideology?
	And when you make, when you look at what's going on in the news, how do you, as a liberal, and you are a liberal person?
	I don't like calling you a liberal, but you favor a liberal ideology, but you are an effective thinker.
	How do you come about your decision-making process when you're going to analyze something or when you see it in the news?
	Sure.
	And hey, DC, great to be with you.
	It was so good to see you last week.
	And it's great to be back on air with our wonderful listeners, many of whom don't agree with me, of course, but I'm always so grateful that you tune in.
	You know, obviously, Jonathan, I'm not from here.
	I grew up in New Zealand, in a place with a very different form of government accent too.
	And I've moved around the world a little bit and I've seen big government, I've seen small government, I've lived in places where there is a Second Amendment.
	I've lived in places where there are basically no guns that have been outlawed.
	So when I come to an issue, I think a lot about freedom.
	I think a lot about tyranny, which actually might surprise you.
	And I think that there's an important role of government in making sure, I guess, that our freedom is preserved.
	And I fight back against deregulation, for example.
	I think that there are some things that government can do and should do.
	And that is things like a safety net to make sure that people, you know, who are the most vulnerable can get it back up on their feet.
	I think government should have a role in education, at least to standardize it, because Americans will go out into the world and they will compete with other countries.
	So, you know, I think you should get the same quality education whether you are from the West Coast, whether you're from Florida, whether you're from California, whether you're from Missouri.
	I don't think it should matter.
	And I worry a lot about last point: corporate America, right?
	We all talk about deregulation, getting rid of the government, but who steps into that vacuum?
	And I would rather have elected leaders making decisions, people who are accountable to regular people like me, than corporations who, frankly, as it should be, their primary, you know, their primary goal is to make money, to get money back to their shareholders.
	I want politicians who are accountable to us.
	So, Danielle, when you come up with your process of analyzing things and how you look at it, what's the process that how have you come about to believe what you believe?
	And how do you, when you sit down and you see something on the news, how do you analyze that?
	Are you talking to me, DC?
	Yes.
	you want more from danielle we're good with danielle for a sec go ahead great No, it's great to be here.
	Thank you for having me.
	And this is wonderful.
	I love you guys.
	And as far as I come to politics not from a pragmatic point of view or even an ideological point of view, I really do look at things with my presuppositions first.
	You know, what are my foundational beliefs that I'm bringing to my views on these very social matters?
	And things like, do I believe in the individual over the collective?
	Do I believe that we have autonomy away from everything?
	Or do I believe that we were made by a creator and that we have a responsibility to an objective truth and then that we have a responsibility to each other?
	and how is that defined by that objective reality and not by our subjective needs or wants or ideals.
	I look at life in that frame and also that I don't believe in that we are progressing towards some kind of ideal.
	I believe life is an ebb and flow of difficulties.
	And if you're looking for some kind of perfection or utopia or some kind of betterment, this grandiose betterment of humanity, I don't really look at life that way.
	I think that we can progress and become better people as far as our character goes, but it's always a struggle.
	You're always going to have the evil mixed among the good.
	And so I do believe that there's bad, and I do believe that there is good.
	And so I don't put my trust in institutions in that way because I believe that, you know, power corrupts.
	So I'm looking at these probably bigger worldview ideals before I, in principles, before I ever come to some kind of pragmatic conclusions about policy.
	And, you know, I think that's what separates me from a lot of people on the left is that I try to get back to these foundational core principles.
	And where I would see government being involved, my first question is, what is the individual's responsibility?
	That's my first question.
	And it's not going to be a perfect solution.
	What is then the associations of local involvements?
	What is state?
	The smaller area of personal responsibility you have, the more freedom you have.
	So the more active that the individual is in carrying out his or her own personal responsibility, they're going to have greater liberty.
	And so I'm always moving away from any kind of centralized kind of solutions to problems and to policies and to taking care of people.
	And in that, I'm not looking for perfection.
	So it's never going to be good.
	But the more local that we have solutions, that we have policy, that we have safety nets, that we have these social frames created, the better it is for everyone because then you have more control and more personal responsibility in it.
	And you're not giving it over to strangers in a distant place and then where power can corrupt.
	So that's where I come to my views.
	So, you know, out of those, both those statements, here's the thing that I took from both of them, which I find fascinating.
	I find this culture.
	I've had this conversation with Rick Unger and many other people before about how we can all listen to one thing and come up with different perspectives of it.
	And it seems to me that really what it boils down to is, Danielle, you're more of a proponent for electing the right people and having them do the right thing, if I'm saying this correctly.
	And DC, you're more in tune with personal responsibility and doing things on the local level.
	Exactly.
	Danielle, would you say that?
	Exactly.
	Yeah, and I'm not going to say that these things aren't mutually exclusive, you know, to DC's point.
	I do think very firmly that we have autonomy, we have responsibility to be good humans, to be innovative, to take care of our families, to make the right decisions for our children and the right decisions professionally, what have you.
	But I am not someone, I believe also in institutions.
	I know you and I have talked a lot about, you know, back and forth about the deep state and whether that exists or not.
	I know that you believe it does, but I think about government as still a collection of individuals.
	People who go home every day, kiss their husbands or wives or partners who see their kids off to school.
	Most of the government is civil service, non-political.
	I think about that a lot in the light of the potential shutdown that's coming, maybe coming down the road in the next couple of days over Christmas, over the holidays.
	I try to think about institutions as being full of people who are trying to do the right thing.
	And to DC's point, there are good people, there are bad people.
	But I tend to have a more positive view about the people who get up every day and go and work in federal government or state government.
	Haven't been one of those people who gets up and goes and works in the federal government.
	I will tell you you're right about that.
	Majority of people are good.
	And I do look at the politicians.
	You know, typically, D.C., what do you think about this?
	Typically, the people who wield the most power are where you're going to find, in politics anyway, are where you're going to find the bad people.
	There's two kinds of people that seek higher office, typically from what I've seen, and not just higher office in politics, but at an executive level.
	It's people who want to make a difference and people who want to have more power, basically what it comes down to.
	Well, I think you can have greedy power mongers at any level from the Homeowners Association all the way up to the president.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You're right about that.
	Really, I mean, being down there.
	Yeah, the point is not so much, you know, who are the good people or who are the bad people within government, but what does the institution itself allow to them to get away with?
	So the smaller the government power and the more local where there's more accountability, the less you're going to have evil people get away with things.
	You're going to have more of a control.
	And even if they do get away with them, it's not going to affect as many people.
	So your homeowners association can be a bunch of tyrants, but it's only going to affect your small neighborhood.
	It's not going to affect the entire state or the entire nation.
	But imagine if you had your homeowner association with a bunch of tyrants in Washington, D.C., where they aren't as accountable, where they have many, many layers of protection from lack of accountability, where power can corrupt.
	So the more distant the government and these individuals who may be good at a mix of good and bad are away from accountability and away from the people themselves, the more that they're going to be corrupted and be allowed to be free to get away with things that are harmful to society.
	This is why I'm very opposed to centralized government.
	It's not about the quality of the people, it's about the quality of the structure of the government that allows for evil to take hold.
	I think that's the way the founding fathers here envisioned it.
	They didn't want a strong federal government.
	They wanted strong state governments and local governments.
	And I think we've gotten away from that, and you can see the ramifications of that.
	But I want to ask Danielle: I want to congratulate you.
	You've now had your second anchor baby.
	And so congratulations on that.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So even if you decide to leave, they still have their citizenship.
	So what do you feel about now that, you know, I mean, I'm being serious here and joking in one way, but let's say you had to leave.
	Your child now has citizenship, but you're striving to become a citizen.
	What do you think about people who play that law and will run up to the border and, you know, if they're going to have a baby, they run and get to the border as quickly as they can so they can have a baby inside the United States just simply to have that hook?
	Sure.
	Great question.
	You know, I have a mix of, I think for any rule breaker, I have a mix of empathy and a mix of displeasure and upset.
	So to use immigration as an example, clearly I'm an immigrant.
	I've done everything the right way.
	I've been here for 17 years.
	I actually thought you were going to ask me, well, how I would feel if I had to Leave this country, and I would tell you I would be devastated because, as an immigrant, you choose, you know, you choose where you come to.
	And so, there is a lot of, I guess, emotional investment in a place that you weren't necessarily born and that you traveled often times a long distance to get to.
	And you climbed over the wall, right?
	Or you climbed over a fence, correct?
	I flew in.
	I flew in, actually.
	Actually, you know, there are more big obvious than southern border crosses, but we'll get to that another day.
	You know, it's wrong.
	There is a reason that we have laws, and laws are designed to be followed, right?
	I'm a lawyer.
	I understand that.
	I do have empathy for people who have walked with their children a thousand miles, who have waited at a border crossing for two days, who find that border crossing to be closed, and they decide that they're going to make a run for it across so that they can, you know, try and claim asylum.
	Hey, I got to say that.
	Deep empathy for them.
	I got to take a break.
	What I'm going to do is let you finish that.
	I'm going to hold you over and we'll come back to you guys because I want to hear DC's side of this as well.
	This is Jonathan the Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	You thought I was going to have a huge debate with these two wonderful women, but I'm trying to show people that you can discuss these things, that there is a thinking process with many people.
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	This is Jonathan Gillam back in for Sean Hannity, the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
	You can call in 800-941-7326.
	And I just want to say to all the affiliates out there, when you tweet and you put me up on Twitter and you say I'm going to be on, I thank you for that very much.
	It gives my fans a chance to see if they might be able to tune into your show in your local area.
	So I appreciate that.
	And this is what I want to do.
	I want to bring Danielle and DC back on for a minute.
	And I want to let DC respond to what we were talking about there a second ago.
	And basically, well, here's what I really want to ask you, DC.
	When it comes to the immigration issue, when it comes to all these different things that are going on, how do you feel, you know, with your conservative values and your ability to analyze things, how do you feel about the way this is being handled?
	Because I know the way America feels about it.
	Is it something that, how do we get the conservative people in office to respond to what we need?
	Well, I mean, first of all, when it comes to immigration in general, we need to get the message out as conservatives that we are not against immigration.
	The issue is illegal immigration.
	And with birthright citizenship, this is the problem.
	It's about illegal immigrants coming over and having babies to become chain migration sources for more illegal immigration.
	So, I mean, it's just, it's about keeping the laws, holding up the laws, and that the purpose of the laws and get the message out is a matter of empathy for Americans and for our society and protecting our society.
	And that we just can't have open borders for anyone.
	And that there's a difference between immigration and asylum and to understand what asylum laws are.
	So we just really need to understand what the issues are before and understand that they are empathetic.
	Got to run.
	Got to run.
	Thank you very much, DC.
	Hate to cut you off, but that's the way the radio world rolls.
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	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Annity.
	Listen, I hope you're driving.
	I hope you're listening.
	If you're somewhere not in New York, we're actually driving and you are almost home.
	You know, I just want to park for a while and go ahead and listen to the show because it'll be a good show.
	I'm going to give you some real information about how you can keep yourself safer, not just over the holiday season, but there's a lot of things that have been happening in the news that if people were just more aware of reality of what's going on, they wouldn't be scammed.
	They wouldn't be dead if they just had this type of awareness.
	Let me, I'm going to take a couple calls.
	I promised people that I would take more calls today.
	So I want to go to Barbara first.
	I heard Barbara has an incredible accent, and I'm from the South.
	I'm from Arkansas.
	So I love hearing a good accent.
	Go ahead, Barbara.
	I live in a border state, and I know I have seen what some people do when they come over the border.
	They'll come over and rob us and drive right back across the border.
	Now, this was about five years ago when I was teaching high school.
	But what I call to say is about women supporting Trump.
	And I told your assistant that I had never seen even one episode of The Apprentice, and I still haven't, if there are reruns or something.
	So my opinion of Donald Trump was what I had seen over the years in the news.
	And I knew he was a wealthy and successful businessman.
	So I looked at the party platforms.
	I didn't consider myself a Republican or a Democrat, but I had also seen Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton over the years, and there was no choice left.
	But I enjoyed watching the buildup to the election.
	And one of my friends, a man who worked for a state financial office in Virginia, was very anti-Trump, and he had no reason to be in the very beginning.
	But it was the mainstream media whose terminology he kept writing in his email.
	And I saw the hateful descriptors of Donald Trump, and I don't see him as that.
	I see him as, like a lot of men I've known in my life, a lot of people, women too, who are in a moment of hubris.
	And when they're being recorded, like that Billy Bush interview, that was what they call a sucker punch.
	You know, it's interesting because we go all the way back to that, Barbara.
	We go all the way back to where that interview or that recording was an interview, that recording when they were talking in private.
	And you can see that nothing has ever added up.
	But what gets me is that people still, they just do not believe and understand that they can research what the president has done.
	They can research how he's been effective.
	They can research how he's treated women.
	And you can see that all the research points to positive.
	I mean, what did they think when they were electing a New Yorker, right?
	First and foremost, when I think of New Yorkers, I think of Linda, really.
	I think of outspoken, go-getters, people who live at the speed of life, and they get stuff done.
	And when I look at, and they're not soft-spoken.
	That's not something that...
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	Yeah, sure you don't.
	So soft-spoken is not something that I would say, oh, those New Yorkers, they're so soft-spoken.
	You're never going to hear that in a conversation.
	But what I have found is that the true New Yorkers that I've been around, Donald Trump is a true New Yorker.
	These people are go-getters.
	I don't look necessarily at the Debbie Washerman Schultz and the people who've moved to Florida as the New Yorkers that I'm familiar with.
	I'm talking about the gritty New Yorkers, the one that will yell at you for talking too loud outside on the sidewalk, but will also on the train, if you say, oh, my phone's not working, you'll have like 10 New Yorkers offer you their phone.
	I mean, that's the kind of New Yorkers that I'm talking about.
	And I'm just, I'm shocked that people are surprised by his outspokenness, by the way he tweets, and they confuse that with his effectiveness.
	And I think that's what Barbara was alluding to there.
	And by the way, Barbara, love your accent.
	You are a soft-spoken.
	You should be reading books for a living.
	That's what you should be doing, voiceovers for books for kids.
	I think that'd be great.
	So let's go.
	I'm going to take another call.
	Let's go to Susan in Dallas.
	Got some Texas women here today.
	Go ahead, Susan.
	Hi.
	Great show.
	Thank you.
	I'm calling because I'm frustrated that we're all on pins and needles.
	I feel like Charlie Brown with the football, the $5 billion only covers allegedly one year of the wall building, first of all.
	But didn't Trump just, and the wall, that's the football right now.
	It's important, but it's secondary.
	Didn't Donald Trump just say he would never sign an obscene penning resolution again?
	This puts us to $4 trillion on spending.
	Yeah.
	To me, that's more important than the wall.
	So one thing, you know, it's interesting with that.
	One thing I always had a problem, and I was hoping that the president would look into this.
	I've never understood why the budgets at the end of the year, like when I was in the Bureau, you would see in the FBI, you would see people scrambling to spend monies.
	And I never understood that, right?
	Why don't you just say, okay, we asked for the budget this year, we only use this much, but we foresee next year using this much.
	I mean, if you don't use the money, it should be turned back in.
	Not everybody trying to spend it so that they can get a bigger budget the next year.
	And I see that a lot, and I think that is one of the things that applies to this.
	But I agree with you, Susan.
	Well, I mean, what do you think when you hear of how the president is handling these things, though?
	What is your opinion on how he should handle it when it comes to dealing with the politics in Washington, D.C.?
	Because you know he's going to have to make deals.
	Well, right now, he would have such a, he may end up shutting it down over the wall.
	But to me, he said he would never sign a CR again like that one day because he felt desperate over the funding of the troops.
	Well, we're not that desperate over the funding of the wall right now.
	He should stick with it, no matter what, even if he ends up losing this.
	And, you know, you brought up something very interesting and a very sad situation in San Angelo, Texas, where I grew up.
	My mother was on a semi-governmental board for literacy.
	She taught adults and teenagers, and she was perfect.
	She ends up running this not-for-profit that was governmental.
	And she ended up quitting because at the end of the year, when she finally got involved in what's heading the whole thing, she saw how the budgeting went.
	And she was so happy that they had not spent her whole budget.
	She was going to give it back to the government, a grant.
	And the fight that ensued and the lack of literacy that's happening because of all this is just sickening.
	She quit and is no longer doing good deeds for this.
	What happened with the budget?
	Did she give that money back?
	Did they?
	She tried to.
	She ended up having to quit.
	She quit because no one would agree and she couldn't go on.
	She literally, like, she could have just said, okay, I've been overturned by my board, but she couldn't.
	She quit.
	She couldn't stand it.
	I don't understand why this occurs.
	And thank you for the call, Susan.
	And God bless Texas and everybody there.
	You all have to really stand up because as D.C. was talking about, you know, the local politics are very important.
	And I do believe that Texas is being subverted.
	And you're turning purple faster than I've ever seen a state.
	It kills me the fact that Texas is what it is.
	It is, you know, the conservative state.
	And it's turning purple so fast that it is scary to see that happening.
	But I do agree with you.
	I do believe that, again, and I really do like this president, but I'm not ashamed to criticize him.
	I'm not going to back down from criticizing him.
	Everybody makes mistakes, and everybody goes into a process not full well knowing what they'll be able to do.
	That's a hard thing about politics, is people make promises as they go along, and then they realize, man, if I'm going to get anything done, I'm going to have to compromise on some of these things.
	I hate compromise.
	But I think when the case, when we look at the president and the way that he's doing things, I think he showed us the perfect example of how to do it.
	When he was in the Oval Office, can we play that sound body in?
	Do you have that where he's in the Oval Office and he tells Chuck Schumer?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	One thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute.
	And you want to shut it down.
	You keep talking about it.
	The last time, Chuck, you shut it down.
	No, no, no.
	And then you opened up quickly.
	I don't want to do what you did.
	20 times you have called for, I will shut down the government if I don't get my woe.
	None of us, if you want to know something, you want to put that.
	You said it.
	I'll take it.
	Okay, good.
	You know what I'll say?
	Yes.
	If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government.
	Okay, that's fair enough.
	And I am proud, and I'll tell you what I agree.
	I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country.
	So I will take the mantle.
	I will be the one to shut it down.
	I'm not going to blame you for it.
	The last time you shut it down, it didn't work.
	I will take the mantle of shutting down.
	And I'm going to shut it down for border, but we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
	So, you know, this is important to me.
	What he did there was he exposed the way that they work in Washington, D.C.
	He exposed the way that they want to do things in secret because over and over again, they were saying, we should do this in private.
	We didn't come here to debate in public.
	And Trump kept saying this is the ultimate transparency.
	I mean, you have a Senate leader, a congressional house leader.
	You have the president.
	Why wouldn't you take advantage of that and work out a problem?
	But they don't want to work out the problems.
	See, that's the issue.
	Chuck Schumer said it himself.
	He said, we have a bill that can pass the House and the Senate.
	But see, that is the problem.
	He didn't say we have a bill that solves the problem.
	He said we have a bill that will pass the House and the Senate.
	That tells me nothing.
	It tells me that they have a bill that they can pass that's probably not going to solve anything about immigration whatsoever.
	And that's the way that they work.
	So I think I got time for one more phone call.
	Let's go to David in Tampa, Florida.
	Go ahead, David.
	Hell yeah, sir.
	How are you?
	Good.
	What's going on?
	Hey, yeah, I'm really concerned.
	The other night you brought up Gallagher and the situation in the soft community.
	I have a background back in the 90s.
	I have several friends that are still active, both in the fraud community, CAG and others.
	These are senior guys that are passing a promotions to leave.
	One of my friends, Susan CAG, said, I got a little boy who wants to follow my footsteps.
	And I told him, don't do it.
	You know, the concern I have is that we are allowing political correctness has taken over the point where we're losing people for this beer guys.
	And, you know, my time in the community, I never saw unprofessionalism.
	I saw the best of the best.
	And even when they wanted to be, they maintained the strictest code of honor and integrity.
	I'm just really concerned with what I see.
	There's a lot of these guys here in the camp area, and we talk.
	I got about a minute left, David.
	But now I want to just ask you this question.
	Does it not concern you if you were a fighter right now?
	You know, I was a SEAL, right?
	So it concerns me not only the fact that people aren't stepping up to the plate to defend Eddie Gallagher and this whole host of other people that are being railroaded, but also what about the warfighters that are going downrange?
	They now have to fear doing their job.
	Yeah, and the guys I talk to, they're like, these guys are getting ready to play, and they're like, I don't want to go.
	First time in my career, I really don't want to go because I'm not going to be allowed to do my job.
	Politics and legalities are going to get in the way, even though we're pros.
	That's shocking.
	We're not them.
	We're Americans.
	Yeah, that's shocking.
	David, listen, I'm going to talk about that a little bit later in the show in the five o'clock hour.
	So God bless you, brother.
	Thank you for your service, and thank you for that call.
	I'm going to reflect on that.
	And everybody, you can go to, I have to get the website again for Eddie, Eddie Gallagher.
	Justice for Eddie.
	Justice for Eddie.
	That's it.com.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you very much.
	See, they're so soft-spoken, the New Yorkers.
	That's subtle.
	This is Jonathan the Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity, 800-941-7326.
	I'll be getting back to some of your calls.
	Peter Schweitzer's up next.
	And go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, 800-941-7326.
	Listen, here's what we're going to do.
	We're going to spin this up, all right?
	At 5.30, we're going to come back after this break with Peter Schweitzer, and it's always fantastic to have him on the show.
	We're going to dig into some serious government issues that are going on as always.
	But I want to come back at 5.30.
	I want to play a little game with the callers.
	I want to find out what the worst Christmas present is that you ever got, and did you re-gift it?
	And maybe if you have a story about a knockdown drag out that happened at your house over Christmas.
	No, no, no.
	We already debated that.
	No, no, no.
	That's not in the spirit of Christmas.
	Okay.
	Who's from New York?
	Yeah, me.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I'm the southern gentleman.
	I'll let her get her way.
	Oh, good lord.
	Plus, she's my boss right now.
	So we're going to come back at 5.30, and that's what we're going to talk about.
	I want to hear what the worst Christmas present was that you ever got, and did you keep it or did you return it?
	And I'm also, you know, the thing about me is I love getting Christmas cards and birthday cards and stuff, but I throw those things away pretty quick.
	I don't want to have a sentimental attachment to cards.
	I get rid of them.
	Do you throw away cards that people give you?
	What am I supposed to do with them?
	You hang them up.
	Well, I mean, I let them sit there until the holiday's over and then I throw them away.
	Like Christmas at midnight, you throw them out?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Sometimes I throw them out when I get them, but you tell me.
	Do I know not to go to Hallmark for you?
	Yeah, just tell me you love me.
	That's the way it works.
	Speaking of presents, though, Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	It'll teach you how to divide your life up into sectors so that you can determine and predict every single attack that could ever happen to you.
	Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	We'll be right back.
	This is John the Gillum back in for my buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, 800-941-7326.
	Don't forget, we're going to come back at 5.30, and we're going to talk about the worst Christmas present you ever got.
	Did you keep it or did you return it?
	Were you crabby or were you good?
	Which one was it?
	So, you know, listen, there's so much going on right now in the news.
	I mean, it's been going on forever in politics, but really since 2016, it ramped up to a hulking state when it comes to corruption and bias and divisiveness in Washington, D.C.
	I figured, you know, Peter Schweitzer, who I like to have on here when I host because he's got this insight into the way things occur there.
	He thinks like I do.
	I wanted to have him back on because I want to ask him some questions to give the conservatives and the free thinkers, the real thinkers out there, some, you know, some ammunition when they go to their Christmas dinners with their families.
	And I know that politics are going to come up.
	So those of you who don't know, and I'm sure you do know who Peter Schweitzer is, he's a creator of a new documentary called The Creepy Line.
	And he, let's see, he's also the author of Clinton Cash and co-author of Compromise.
	He is also the president of the Government and Accountability Institute.
	Peter, as always, it's great to have you here.
	Hey, thanks for having me on and Merry Christmas.
	Listen, I want to ask you, I'm going to talk about this towards the end of the show, but there was a judge down in Florida who says that the cops in the schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland High School.
	Yeah.
	So it's easy to see the level of incompetence in that story and the headline alone.
	What is after doing this, what you've been doing for so many years and seeing what you've seen and the depth at which you've investigated this stuff, how surprised, even though people know that a lot of politicians are incompetent and corrupt, how incompetent and how corrupt have you seen some of these people?
	Well, I think it's a huge problem.
	And what people realize the closer they interact with government is that the government's role is essentially to protect its own power.
	And government bureaucrats and politicians are basically looking to protect themselves and their own interests.
	There's a school of economic thought called public choice theory.
	And what public choice theory basically says is that you need to think about government and politicians as basically businessmen.
	You know, we know what businessmen are designed to do.
	They want to create products and services and they want to make money.
	Well, politicians basically have those same human motives.
	They may wrap up what they do in some wonderful sounding words, but at the end of the day, what they are interested in doing is creating demand for their services.
	So if I'm a politician, you know, I don't really get paid.
	I mean, to be cynical about it, I don't really get paid to fix problems.
	I get paid to wrestle with problems, and people will donate money to me, or they will hire, you know, my son as a lobbyist because there's a crisis or a problem out there that they want fixed.
	But I actually don't get paid for fixing the problem.
	And so what people have to understand is, you know, governments are populated by people, and people in government have the same motivation that people do out of government.
	The difference, though, is that in business, you get paid and you become rich by providing services and goods that people want.
	You know, Bill Gates became fabulously rich in Microsoft, not by forcing people to buy his product, but by providing a product that people would spend a lot of money to buy.
	Government, they don't have that ability.
	So what they do is they use their power and their authority to force people to do things or to threaten people with things in order to monetize that position.
	And that, I think, is the biggest thing that people have to understand about how Washington, D.C. works and why problems never seem to get fixed.
	And all you have to do is look at the headlines today about the border wall and the budget and all the drama that's taking place.
	This is a classic example of that.
	It's interesting because if they did their job and actually solved problems, they'd almost for sure get reelected.
	And that's what I don't get is if we had a political party that really went in there and all the people that were associated with it said, we are going to get stuff done, they would get elected every time.
	They would.
	But, you know, what they're looking for is not just to get re-elected.
	They're looking for what's the gig after they're done.
	You know, there's an old saying in New Jersey politics, make a law, make a business.
	And what they're basically saying is that, you know, you want to create opportunities for yourself down the road, recognizing you may not be in political office forever, even though it seems like some of these people have been.
	So, you know, let me give you an example, a very simple example.
	You know, certain tax credits that are out there.
	There's a research and development tax credits that companies get.
	And this tax credit allows them, if they invest in research and development, creating new technologies, they get a special tax credit or tax break based on that investment.
	Well, this has been on the book since 1981, but they never make it permanent.
	And you'd think, well, you should make it permanent so businesses know it's going to be there.
	But if you think like a politician, you realize that if you make that law permanent, you can't go back to companies and ask them for money.
	If you make it last three years and then it's up for renewal, those three years later, you can go to companies and say, you know, this law might go away.
	You better pay us.
	Give us donations.
	Give us lobbying contracts.
	And then we will renew it.
	And so this is the balance.
	It's not just about getting re-elected.
	It's about positioning themselves, but also their family members in a way that they can extract money from taxpayers and use their power for their own self-enrichment.
	Now, I had an individual that's running, and I don't know if he won.
	I need to find out if he won up in Massachusetts.
	And he's a Harvard grad, and he said that in his eye, in his mind, that Harvard is basically a hedge fund for Washington, D.C.
	And it's interesting the way he explained it.
	So do you think that people come to Washington, D.C. with this premise, or is this something that they grow into once they get there?
	Because it does exist in the city and in the state politics as well, but not to the extent of these people becoming multi-multi-millionaires within four years.
	Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
	And it's always hard to know to look into somebody's mind and soul and to know why they're motivated to do something.
	But all you can do is kind of look at what their actions betray.
	And so, you know, to give you a very clear-cut example of how this works, you know, go back to Dodd-Frank, which was the big financial reform bill after the financial crisis.
	And when you add up all the rules, the Dodd-Frank bill, which was after Senator Chris Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, it's like some 10,000 pages of rules.
	It's this enormously complex bill.
	And people like Warren Buffett say, I don't understand the rule.
	People that are the smartest lawyers working for banks look at this and say, we don't understand it.
	It's so complicated.
	And the point is, of course it is.
	It's designed to be complicated.
	So the people that wrote this complex, highly convoluted bill, once the bill became law, you know What they did?
	They quit their jobs on Capitol Hill and they opened up a consulting firm charging financial companies to interpret the bill that they had written.
	So, in other words, if the bill was simple, if the regulations were easy to understand, there's no way they could have monetized that.
	But they could monetize it precisely because the law was so complicated.
	And this occurs not just in finance, but in environmental law, all kinds of areas.
	And, you know, when you made the comment about, you know, Harvard kind of being a breeding ground for this, part of what's happening is, you know, very smart people that used to go into the private sector because they wanted to make money, which is great, are increasingly going into government because they feel like they can accomplish their political goals and they can also get rich at the same time.
	The difference is when you get rich in the public sector in government, you're doing it at the expense of other people.
	It's a zero-sum game.
	You have to take things away from other people.
	You have to threaten them with regulations or laws to make money.
	Whereas in the private sector, you become rich because you're providing a service that people voluntarily choose to have, whether it's a computer or an iPod or whatever.
	So let me ask you this real quick, and then I got to take a break.
	When you look at the wall and what Trump is facing, how much of what we're discussing here plays into the fact that this keeps getting delayed?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, huge.
	There's no question about it.
	A lot of the legislative battles that you see on Capitol Hill, it's like professional wrestling.
	You know, I watched professional wrestling when I was a little kid, and I thought it was real.
	I thought the guy hitting the guy with the chair really hated the guy that he was hitting with the chair.
	And then my dad said, no, these guys work together.
	They're actually business partners.
	That's kind of what's going on.
	You've got people on the Democratic side who want the looming threat of the wall because that scares people on their side and scurries up donations.
	And you've got a lot of powerful interests that don't want the wall built because it's going to hurt their labor costs.
	But the bottom line is, you know, this is something that the president promised.
	I think something that the president should do.
	And the people that are critiquing him and saying, well, the wall's not going to be as effective.
	We need to do these other things are really being disingenuous because those people have not been spending the last six years trying to strengthen the border.
	It's just sort of a disingenuous explanation.
	So I think we've reached this critical point.
	I think the president's drawn a line in the sand, and I think he needs to stick to his guns.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	When he stuck to his guns in the Oval Office, I'll just keep talking about that as much as possible.
	It's probably the greatest example of leadership I've seen from a president in a long time.
	I mean, it was amazing the way he stood up to Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
	And what's funny is when he does that, they just do not know how to take it.
	Right, right.
	Because everybody in Washington is a dealmaker.
	I mean, there's a club, and I understand that compromise is part of how the American system works.
	But the problem is the compromise always seems to go one direction.
	And the point of compromise is that there should be winners on both sides.
	And so I think he's right to draw the line.
	And I think ultimately, if he sticks to his guns, something will come out of this that will move us in the direction of actually building a wall.
	One last thing.
	Do you think the Clintons will ever go to jail?
	Well, I don't know if they're going to go to jail.
	I'm hopeful still that there will be a grand jury.
	There may possibly be a grand jury right now.
	What I've always said is there needs to be an investigation.
	If you go back and look, you know, in early 2017, what we knew about the Russian collusion that has never materialized, and what we knew about the Russian, sorry, the Clintons taking money from foreign entities.
	We knew, and there was a lot more damning evidence about the Clintons than there ever was about Russia collusion.
	And yet we ended up investigating one and not the other.
	And what I've always said is we should have investigated both.
	We've only investigated one.
	And I think what people are mostly frustrated about is the selective nature of justice in this country, that only certain people are expected to abide by the rules, not others.
	It was that way when Wall Street crashed and you had very low-level people that engaged in mortgage fraud, ended up having the book thrown at them.
	But the big guys on Wall Street who were falsifying huge amounts of mortgage-backed securities and bragging about it in email, none of them were ever charged and prosecuted.
	And this is the heartbeat of the American system of justice, that we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men.
	But as long as only certain people get investigated and looked at and not others, it's going to further erode the confidence that people have in our system.
	Listen, thank you as always.
	Love having you on.
	And the insight that you provide is just amazing.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	So we appreciate it.
	Have a Merry Christmas, Peter.
	Thank you, brother.
	Take care.
	You got it.
	Peter Schweitzer, he's the creator of the documentary, The Creepy Line.
	He's also the president of the Government Accountability Institute and co-author of Compromised.
	This is Jonathan Gillam.
	Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	And make sure you call in.
	Yeah.
	Tell us what your worst Christmas gift was.
	And did you return it?
	No.
	Did you re-gift it?
	Oh, regift it.
	Or re-if it.
	Returning is fine.
	But when you regift, that's deception.
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	See that?
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	You're welcome.
	Well, I know one gift that you won't regift.
	That's Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	It's on Amazon, Barnes Noble, Walmart.com, everywhere.
	Go get it.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Sean Hannity Radio Show 800-941-7326.
	I'm going to go to the phone lines and I want to hear about the worst Christmas present you ever got and did you regift it?
	So let's go.
	Let's just go straight down the line.
	Let's start with Dwayne in Ohio.
	Go ahead, Dwayne.
	Yeah, I regifted it to my dad, and he wore it every Christmas for, you know, five or six years.
	What was it?
	What'd you regift?
	What was it?
	It was a sweater.
	It was the ugliest sweater I ever got in my life, but it had Santa Claus with a Rudolph nose on it.
	And it was two sizes too big for me.
	So I gave it to my dad the next year.
	One man's trash is another man's treasure.
	Hey, God bless you, Dwayne.
	That's the way you're supposed to do it.
	Let's go to Maryland and Mississippi.
	Go ahead, Marilyn.
	Hello.
	What's going on there?
	Well, I didn't tell your lady, but my grandmother, about five years beforehand, received a pair of pajamas.
	She was an old lady, and they're very, you know, thin, flimsy pajamas, and they had a pull in them.
	And she wrapped them up and gave them to me for Christmas.
	So, no, I didn't re-wrap them.
	I just threw them away because I knew where they came from.
	So, and my grandmother was trying.
	She's very frugal.
	My granddaddy had passed like 40 years earlier.
	So, yep, they had a pull in them.
	I could tell they were definitely used.
	Well, I got to go right now.
	We'll end with that one, and we'll come back from the break and talk a little bit more about some of these things.
	It's Jonathan the Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness.
	It's the Christmas present you'll want to give.
	We'll be right back.
	This is Jonathan the Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
	Calling numbers 800-941-7326.
	We're going to talk about, well, I'm going to give you the ability to tell everybody about the worst Christmas present you ever got.
	And did you re-gift it?
	But I have to tell you a little bit of breaking news here is that Mattis has announced that he'll be retiring in February.
	And I've got my own opinions about that, but we'll save those for now.
	And we will go and go straight to the phone calls.
	I scared Linda right there, I think.
	Let's go.
	Oh, you did scare me.
	I was like, uh-oh.
	You know, I'll save that for now.
	We're going to have a jolly good time right now.
	So let's go to Calvin in California.
	Calvin, you're on the air with like 10, 20 million people, I think, maybe 30.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	Knock it out the park.
	Trying to make me nervous.
	Just a little.
	Hey, Merry Christmas, brother.
	Thank you.
	And same to you.
	Hey, my worst Christmas present was a Grinch doll.
	I'm in my 50s now, and I got this in my mid-20s.
	And not because I'm a Grinch, because I love Christmas.
	But I think it's because I like the movie so much.
	They bought me a Grinch doll, and I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this?
	You don't give a Christmas decoration for a Christmas present.
	What am I going to do with this thing?
	Interesting.
	And what did you do with it?
	I burned it.
	Because that's what you do with bad Christmas presents.
	You burn them.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Linda's coming back in right now.
	He burned his Christmas present because he didn't like it.
	It was a Grinch.
	Listen.
	That's the way it goes.
	Hey, Calvin, God bless you.
	Have a Merry Christmas out there in California.
	All right.
	Hey, back at you.
	Oh, ho, ho.
	Let's go to Michael in Jacksonville.
	Is that Jacksonville, Florida?
	Yes, sir.
	My worst present ever was a wooden bowl that was given to me by my niece.
	We have a large family, so we started drawing names so we wouldn't have to buy presents for everyone.
	And I opened this thing, and I'm like, okay, it's a bowl.
	And she's like, well, I saw it at this craft show, and I really liked it.
	And the guy even signed it and dated it.
	So I'm waiting for the day that I draw her name so I can return it.
	So you will re-gift it to the person that thought it was great.
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	Every year I hope and wish that I get her name.
	And it hasn't happened yet.
	I've had this thing for three or four years now.
	And hopefully I live long enough to give it back to her.
	You should just leave it in her bag.
	Hey, God bless you.
	Have a Merry Christmas down there in Jacksonville.
	You too.
	A lot of great people down there.
	Let's go to Aaron in Tennessee.
	Go ahead, Aaron.
	Hello, Jonathan.
	Good to talk to you.
	You too.
	Well, I can't really think about the worst Christmas present I ever got.
	I guess I've never been the type to really think of them that way.
	But the worst Christmas present I ever gave was a cousin of mine that wanted a big TV for a room.
	Now, of course, this was back before the flat screens and all that stuff.
	And I got a big TV box, and I made sure, and I turned around and I wrapped it up, but I also wrapped up boxes inside it and kept wrapping and wrapping all nine yards all the way down to one of those old black and white three-inch Walkman TVs.
	And I actually made sure the box weighed the same and everything else.
	She was all excited when she got it open and everything else.
	But then the next box down and the next box down.
	But, you know, my thought on that was that at the time she was still in school.
	She didn't need a TV in her room anyway.
	There you go.
	Now, are you originally from Tennessee?
	No, I'm actually originally from Wyoming.
	I've actually reviewed your book, and I was the center candidate last year that was really excited about your book.
	Awesome.
	My name is Aaron Medigru, and I am running again since Lamar Alexander decided to retire, too.
	Well, you just keep it going.
	I just want to know if this sense of humor came from Wyoming or did it come from Tennessee.
	I've got a good sense of humor all the way around.
	Some of it's a little dark, and some of it's a little, you know, that I'm going to have to, if I win, you know, I don't want Peter's wife to be right about me.
	There you go.
	Which I'm the kind of candidate he won't have to write about unless he's writing a good news book.
	But, you know, we'll leave that at that.
	There you go, brother.
	Hey, thank you very much.
	Have a Merry Christmas and be safe in Tennessee.
	Happy New Year and God bless.
	You got it.
	Let's go to Gary in Pennsylvania.
	Go ahead, Gary.
	Hey, Jonathan, how are you doing?
	What's going on, buddy?
	I'm still laughing about that guy burning the Grinch.
	Maybe he had some anger issues buried inside.
	I don't know.
	That's hysterical.
	But anyways, my present is the worst and the weirdest because when I was in my 30s, my mother, one of the presents she gives me is a pair of pajamas.
	Now, the reason that's weird is I'm in my 30s and I haven't slept in PJs since I was like 11 or 12.
	So I gifted it to Goodwill.
	Well, there you go.
	That's good.
	You know what's listen?
	I'm going to be honest with you about Goodwill.
	I love it.
	I really think you can go in there.
	All these people spend all this money on these grunge pants.
	You can normally find all that stuff in there.
	I just don't know why Goodwill repurposes men's underwear that's hanging on the hangers.
	Don't forget that Bill Clinton also donated his used underwear.
	Did he really?
	Yeah, no, that was a big thing back in the Clinton years.
	They donated their underwear and deducted it on their taxes.
	We've gone down a dark alley in this conversation.
	Listen, Gary, best to your mom.
	Have a Merry Christmas.
	And you know what?
	You should post pictures of those PJs from now, and that's what I think you should do.
	Let's go to Mike in Santa Barbara.
	Go ahead, Mike.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	The worst gift that I ever got was about a couple years ago where I got this Hillary candidacy.
	Yep.
	And then I regifted her to Chappaquine.
	Yes.
	And Bill's underwear, evidently, as well, because we just, I don't know.
	Anyway, hey, listen.
	That was part of the deal.
	That was part of the deal.
	And that was a very good Christmas.
	You did a very, I got to tell you, Mike, you did a great job in regifting that.
	Give it back to them.
	And God bless you.
	Have a Merry Christmas.
	Thank you.
	You got it.
	We still got some time.
	Let's go to Gary in Virginia.
	If this is the Gary that I think it is, Gary, is that you?
	That's me, Bubba.
	How'd you find me on show?
	You follow me on every show that I host.
	I know, but I told you a couple days ago when you're on web that I probably wouldn't be able to get through.
	You did today.
	The worst present I've ever got is my wife.
	Oh, you're going to get smacked for that one.
	You still married to me?
	No, she's not.
	I still have her after 34 years.
	I'll never regift her.
	She might re-gift you now.
	Well, no, she's not looking at me.
	She won't even know I did this phone call.
	So there you go.
	Well, there you go.
	There you go.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Tell Linda.
	I'll tell you guys the whole staff of that show and all the other Patreon channels.
	Merry Christmas.
	Be safe, please.
	You too, my friend.
	And thank you for all the calls that you give whenever I'm hosting all the different shows.
	I can't thank you enough, my friend.
	Have a Merry Christmas and give your wife some love.
	Boy, it's going to be a long Christmas legacy now.
	My son's looking at me.
	I'll say, keep your mouth shut.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	God bless you, brother.
	All right, brother.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Let's go to David in Massachusetts.
	David, what's going on?
	Hey, Jonathan, how are you doing?
	I'm doing good.
	And yourself?
	Good, thanks.
	You'll hear a little voice back here.
	I'm driving my kid home from daycare, but the worst Christmas present I ever had actually makes me blush talking about it now.
	It's quite a few years ago.
	My soon-to-be mother-in-law, so I had just started dating a girl, and we moved in together.
	And I want to say it was my second Christmas with the family.
	And we were at her house at the soon-to-be mother-in-law's house with the grandmother as well.
	And my wife, sitting on the couch, the last gift I open is a crocheted penis warmer.
	What on?
	Are you sure that's what it was and not like a banana holder or some kind of like a potholder for a skillet?
	It would have been a very interesting shaped skillet if it was, but no, it started, so she bought it somewhere, but it was crocheted.
	And I'm blushing now telling the story, probably as bad as I was the day that I opened it.
	And I'm standing there.
	I'm sitting there.
	I'm holding this thing in my hand.
	I couldn't even believe it.
	And totally deadpan, she looks at me and she says, I hope it's not too big.
	Oh, my.
	So welcome to the family.
	Pretty much the now, is that your current wife?
	Is that your wife or is that somebody else?
	It's my wife's mother.
	So it is a woman you married, though.
	That's her mom.
	Yes.
	So there's no way that this phone call is not going to get back to her.
	I can guarantee you this is going to get back to her.
	And I would love to find out if she thought that was like something that you put on a skillet or something like that.
	I'd like to know the rationale.
	She completely knew and she did it totally on purpose.
	She is a rascal, that one.
	All right, listen.
	Dave, have a Merry Christmas.
	You've completely shocked everybody in the audience that's listening to this show right now.
	So God bless you.
	God bless you too, sir.
	Take care.
	All right, buddy.
	All right.
	If somebody can top that one, that was not only funny, it was very creepy as well.
	There's so many things I could say that I would never get to host this show again if I said them right now.
	Let's go to Ray in Utah.
	Utah is a comp state, so it's got to be cleaner than that one.
	Go ahead, Ray.
	I'm not sure.
	Hey, several years back, my wife and I were remodeling our home, and a bathroom came up.
	And so anyway, I opened up my big flat Christmas present, and it's a toilet seat.
	A toilet seat.
	That is, wow.
	What is it at least padded?
	No.
	Oh, my lord.
	Why wouldn't toilet seat?
	Okay.
	I have a degree in psychology, right?
	So I'm going to assume be honest with you.
	Whoever gave that to you, hates you.
	That was my wife.
	Okay, maybe she's sending you a message.
	Maybe you need to keep the toilet seat lid down.
	Maybe that's what the message was there.
	I don't know.
	Hey, God bless you, Ray.
	Have a Merry Christmas, my friend.
	Hey, same to you.
	Thank you.
	I'll take one more of these, and then we'll go to a break.
	Let's see here.
	Let me look what we got here.
	All right.
	I'm going to do real three or three of them real quick.
	Let's go to Will, Mississippi.
	Go ahead, Will.
	Hey, Merry Christmas.
	I think I've got everybody beat.
	What'd you get?
	It was a company Christmas party last week, and I got what happened by Hillary Rodham Cliff.
	Oh, I would have jumped out the window.
	Or I would have fallen down, had a heart attack, and sued him.
	It was absolutely awful.
	Hey, God bless you, brother.
	Have a Merry Christmas.
	Yep.
	Merry Christmas, Carl.
	Let's go to Karen in Indiana.
	Go ahead, Karen.
	Well, good evening.
	Back in the 70s, I was dating a very nice man, and he bought me for Christmas an olive green blender.
	And what made it even funnier was a few nights later, we were watching the Bob Newhart show, and Bob bought Emily a blender for Christmas, and she was not happy.
	We watched that show with utter silence.
	You should have, when the show was over, you should have handed the blender and said, go make me a smoothie, buddy.
	But I don't think they had smoothies back then.
	All right.
	Well, Merry Christmas on that one.
	All right, let's go to Rick in California, the last one.
	Rick, go ahead.
	Thank you very much.
	I'm a bass fisherman, and my family knows it.
	And since they open the bass pro shop, they get me crap.
	I have wooden fish.
	I got plastic fish.
	I got singing fish.
	I got fish magnets for the refrigerators.
	Fish pencils, pillows, fishing signs, fish.
	I got more crap in my office stacking up my desk.
	I'm going to quit fishing.
	Hey, Rick, at least you didn't get a penis warmer from your mother-in-law, okay?
	So look, you got that going for you.
	Hey, God bless you.
	Have a great Christmas, Rick.
	You too, brother.
	All right, buddy.
	Let's go to a break.
	We're going to come back and finish up the show.
	This is Jonathan Gillum.
	That whole thing has really still got me going.
	I knew that was going to be a good subject.
	You did really good in picking that out, Linda.
	You can find me on Twitter, j Gilliam underscore SEAL, and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
	Also on Instagram and YouTube at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
	And go get my book, Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	Talk a little bit more about that and wish you some Merry Christmas things.
	And we'll come back in just a minute.
	This is Jonathan Gillum, ending the show for Sean Hannity.
	This will be my last show before we go to Christmas.
	And I just want to say, again, I want to reach out to everybody and say thank you for all the donations you've given to my sister Allison, who was almost beaten to death a week ago today down in Florida.
	And you can go to gofundme.com and then type in the search, Allison, A-L-I-S-S-A-N, A-L-I-S-S-A-N, and that'll bring you up to her page.
	And we can't thank you enough because she is going to have tremendous, tremendous medical bills.
	And I can't thank you enough for that.
	I also want to say go to justice4eddy.com, Navy SEAL that's being held.
	It's ridiculous.
	His command, Rosenbloom, and who's the Commodore out there.
	I don't know what you're doing, sir, but it certainly ain't standing up for the brotherhood.
	And I don't like the way this thing is unfolding.
	It's not right.
	And the people that are going around spreading rumors about stuff that they have no idea about, you should stop it.
	All right.
	That's not the way the brotherhood's supposed to work, if there is, in fact, still one.
	The last thing, sheep know more, the art of awareness and attack survival.
	I talk about my book a lot, but I'm telling you right now, if you gift it to your kids, you may very well save your life.
	If you give it to your mayor, you'll make your city safer.
	If you give it to your chief of police, the parishioners in your church or the preacher, if you work in a hospital, if you're a teacher, get this book.
	I could go on and on about it, but I believe in it that much.
	I put my name behind it.
	I wrote it.
	I didn't have any type of a ghost rider.
	And Sean Hannity wrote the forward because he believed in what it said.
	So Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	I'll teach you how to divide your life into sectors.
	And then you take those sectors and determine what an attacker would do and how you defend against it.
	Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	Merry Christmas to everybody.
	I can't wait to see you again.
	I'll be back here on the 28th.
	Check it out.
	Come back.
	We'll have a great show.
	And Merry Christmas.
	Thank you, Lord, for sending your son Jesus down for us.
	And I'll see you next time on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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