Sean Hannity Show - The Best of Sean Hannity - 11.23

Nov. 23, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show

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The Best of Sean Hannity - 11.23

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	Total freedom of the press.
	It's very important to me.
	It's more important to me than anybody would believe.
	But you have to act with respect.
	You're in the White House.
	And when I see the way some of my people get treated at press conferences, it's terrible.
	So we're setting up a certain standard, which is what the court is requesting.
	And always freedom of the press, always First Amendment, but that's the way it is.
	I'm going to move my David.
	The president's tone towards the pressure.
	Jim, I'm pressing.
	The president's tone towards the press obviously is not helpful at times.
	And I think that that's plain to see.
	There are some fears up on Capitol Hill, and we understand some in the White House, that if Democratic wave is coming, it can sweep the Republicans out of power in the House.
	And that could potentially lead to impeachment proceedings that the Democrats could bring forward.
	What is the President's thinking on that?
	What is your thinking on that?
	Do you understand how the law could be different than border security, sir?
	If border security could be a different person.
	No, actually, I know.
	It could mean agents.
	It could mean more fencing.
	It doesn't necessarily mean a physical.
	And that's part of the negotiation that we expect Congress to have.
	I understand Democrats are saying that they may not be in favor of this kind of deal, but they say thanks, but no thanks for a wall.
	Jim, I'm not negotiating with you.
	I'm going to let Congress take care of that.
	What we're witnessing right now is just this erosion of our freedoms in terms of covering the president of the United States.
	I think that there are moments when this president is just really sensitive to criticism and he lashes out in this fashion.
	That is just a strange and unprecedented thing to do to be throwing rolls and paper towels at people.
	The last three news conferences, Wolf, all of the questions to the American news media have been handled by conservative press.
	And I think, Wolf, there's no other way to describe it, but the fix is in.
	Jim, as always, Jim, let me ask you a question.
	Hope to the world for people to say.
	Jim, do you believe Jim?
	And they're not always going to speak.
	Jim pushed Steve.
	Do you believe he's going to be highly skilled?
	They're not always going to be.
	Jim, I appreciate your speech.
	I think we saw the president's true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue.
	If I may ask another question.
	Mr. President, if I may ask one other question, are you worried?
	That's enough.
	That's enough.
	I was going to ask one of the other folks.
	That's enough.
	Pardon me, ma'am.
	Mr. President.
	That's enough.
	Mr. President, I want to.
	That's enough.
	Put down the mic.
	Ms. President, are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation?
	Mr. President.
	I'll tell you what, CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them.
	You are a rude, terrible person.
	You shouldn't be working for CNN.
	And obviously, this is the moment that everybody is waiting for on Inauguration Day when the President and the First Lady step out of their limo and walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
	You know, I feel like I should pitch myself right now, Wolf.
	I can't believe I have this vantage point of history in the making.
	You're literally, what, about 15, 20 feet away from the president?
	I'm probably a good, I would say, 50 feet away from the president right now, Wolf.
	Very, very close.
	All right, there you have it.
	News Roundup Information Overload Hour, 800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number if you want to be a part of the program.
	What's amazing is in this judge's ruling, just temporarily restoring Jim Acosta's press credential.
	When you get into the heart of the ruling, and I think this is a temporary injunction, reinstating the press pass.
	But when you look at what the court is saying, the court is making clear, there is the argument that was being made.
	This is a First Amendment right to access the White House.
	And what the judge is arguing is that there was no real standards or rules or process that would ensure fair and orderly press conferences in the future and that there must be decorum at the White House.
	And anyway, the White House has been arguing they have the right to reject Acosta's access because of how he treats the president, treated the president at the press conference.
	But it wasn't the first time you just heard that montage.
	He loved when Obama was getting his second inauguration.
	Just couldn't be happier.
	And the double standard that exists there.
	But the judge found that the harm in sustaining a violation of due process outweighs the government's interest in orderly and respectful press conferences.
	And that in that sense, that's what this judge is saying.
	And the judge will weigh in further.
	One other thing that you really have to take note of.
	Judge is clear that the president, his spokespeople, are not obligated to let him ask questions.
	I mean, there's many ways that this can come down.
	But as he began to offer his view on components of what CNN was requesting, he said, while I might not agree with the underlying case law, meaning a First Amendment case, I read the case closely.
	And whether it's what I agree with, that's a different story.
	But it's the precedent that he was relying on to make his decision.
	And, you know, that's basically what it comes down to.
	Anyway, here to go through this and so much more.
	We have a spokesperson for the RNC, Kaylee McEnaney, is back with us.
	Jeff Lord, he's also with us.
	Interesting that he had worked for fake news CNN.
	So what is your reaction to the judge today?
	Well, I'm all for First Amendment rights, but no one has a First Amendment right to be in the White House.
	I mean, that's sort of— It's absurd.
	I mean— Yeah, and by the way, I mean, if they're going to set up standards, they don't have to have standards that historically existed.
	They got to have standards that say you're in the old executive office building and no longer in the White House at all.
	I mean, and everybody gets treated the same, right?
	That's right.
	And remember that that press room that we see all the time, that was created by Richard Nixon.
	It didn't used to exist.
	That was Franklin Roosevelt's swimming pool, which is still there.
	It's still there.
	The pool is still in there.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty funny, and a lot of people don't know.
	They lounged around in the lobby, in the White House West Wing lobby.
	Right.
	Maybe they didn't get put back there.
	What is your take on this, the judge Timothy Kelly?
	It's interesting because he didn't, he used the Fifth Amendment claim as the ruling for his basis, saying the White House needs to provide due process required to legally revoke the pass and literally leaving open the possibility they could revoke it again if they provide that due process.
	Yeah, Sean, that's exactly right.
	It's of a big note that the focus was the Fifth Amendment.
	It was due process.
	It was giving enough notice to Jim Acosta in advance that his pass would be taken away, not finding out, you know, when he arrived for a hit with CNN.
	So it leaves open the door, a big open door for, if done appropriately, if done with enough time, perhaps.
	In fact, you could take away Jim Acosta's press pass.
	And, you know, left out of all of this is the fact that he literally slapped down the arm of a White House intern, a young girl dedicating her time to the White House for free without pay, has her arm slapped down by Jim Acosta.
	I'm going to be honest, I didn't see a slap.
	I saw the young intern try to grab the microphone and he pulled it back.
	And, you know, he was like, I'm not giving up this microphone.
	But how many times does the president of the United States have to say enough, enough, enough, enough?
	And, you know, there was an interesting article that I saw that there are a lot of his fellow colleagues out there.
	This was on the Daily Wire today.
	This isn't the Jim Blanking Acosta show.
	And some of his fellow journalists, White House correspondents, they're kind of pissed off because he hogs all the time.
	He doesn't stay within the limit of one question each.
	He wants five.
	He wants to debate the president.
	And he's making it about himself.
	Oh, this is entirely about Jim Acosta.
	There's no denying that.
	It's all about Jim Acosta.
	It's not about getting questions in, getting real facts out.
	He takes the place of other journalists who aren't welcomed in because this is about him.
	It's about him taking the microphone, him getting the star power.
	That's clear.
	And you don't have a right to be rude like that, to take the center of attention.
	There are only 44 spots in that White House press briefing room.
	And for Jim Acosta to act as if he has a First Amendment right to one of them is just fallacious.
	What do you think?
	I mean, where does this go from here?
	I mean, I would imagine that this is a huge gaping hole that the judge, Judge Kelly in this case, is leaving open.
	And in as much as they will set up some type of process, there will be established rules in terms of people, White House correspondents going forward.
	The White House has the right to choose or not choose anybody.
	That was made clear.
	And one wonders if, for example, if they decided to put the swimming pool back and move the press office to, I don't know, anywhere that they feel like moving it in some other building, but not the White House.
	I don't see how that challenge loses.
	I mean, they can challenge it, but I don't think that would stand as long as due process is afforded everybody in the media.
	Well, that's absolutely right.
	You know, where they would put them is there's a room, it's called room 450 over in the fourth floor of the old executive office building.
	And from time to time, presidents have held press conferences there.
	They'd stick them right there.
	That's where they could do it and get them out of the White House altogether.
	They have no constitutional right to be in the White House.
	That's just a fact.
	I mean, this is a relatively recent development as things go.
	So absolutely, they could be tossed out of there.
	And they would scream bloody murder for sure.
	You know, it's interesting because the media takes no responsibility at all in all this.
	I'm talking about left-wing media.
	I mean, there's a great piece by Cheryl Atkinson, who used to work at CBS, and it's called 60 Media Mistakes in the Trump Era, the definitive list.
	I mean, these errors are just, they just jump off the page at you.
	You know, I'm not particularly fond of the left-wing media, those that say that they're media or journalists when they're anything but their advocates, and they just claim to be something that they're not.
	That's exactly right.
	They ignore the dossier.
	They ignore Benghazi.
	They ignore any major scandal that affects someone in the Democratic Party because it does not fit into their left-wing agenda.
	And I mean, just compare the New York Times on Tuesday talking about this GOP recount and saying this is cold political calculation and alleging fraud.
	They said that the president and the Republicans, they're stoking tensions over race by talking about fraud in Florida, which we now have evidence of, versus how they treat Stacey Abrams in Georgia when she's considering bringing a lawsuit alleging fraud and having an entirely new vote in Georgia.
	The New York Times loans all the credence in the world to that while ignoring and marginalizing Republican concerns.
	I mean, it's right there on their pages, the bias, which is why they have the lowest approval rating in Gallup recorded history because the American people recognize the bias.
	What is your thought on where we are?
	DeSantis now is declared the governor.
	And now we have the same thing.
	Kemp won the race in Georgia.
	Mathematically, it is impossible now for Bill Nelson to be reelected.
	Rick Scott is the new senator from the state of Florida.
	All of these races, and none of these Democrats want to concede.
	And such a big deal was made over, well, if Trump loses in 2016, he's going to create chaos.
	He won't accept the results.
	He'll refer to them as illegitimate.
	And it's exactly what the Democrats do.
	It's all about power for them.
	I mean, that is the sole reason why they do all this.
	It is all about power.
	And one other thing, Sean, I want to say here about CNN.
	They stand up for themselves and say it's all about the First Amendment.
	They do not stand up when people come after you or Laura or Rush or when Lou Dobbs himself was at CNN.
	They let Media Matters go after him.
	They don't stand up against these people.
	And that's a serious problem here.
	I mean, the hypocrisy is just mind-boggling.
	And until they do that, they're not going to have any credibility on this issue.
	All right, we'll pick that up on the other side.
	We'll continue more with Kaylee McEnany is with us and also Jeff Lord, 800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
	You want to be a part of the program.
	And as we continue with Kaylee McEnaney, RNC spokesperson, by the way, author of the new American Revolution, The Making of a Populist Movement, Jeff Lord, when his book came out, What America Needs, The Case for Trump, when did that come out?
	What month was that before the election?
	It came out in January of 2016.
	Amazing.
	November of 2015.
	Way ahead of the curve.
	All right.
	So if I am a talk show host who sometimes does straight news, and I can produce hours of coverage of straight news only on this program on TV, and I also do strong opinion.
	I can produce hours of that coverage.
	And I also just have fun segments, talk to callers, have debates, whatever it happens to be.
	I would argue I'm like a whole newspaper being a talk show host.
	Different kind of journalism, but journalism.
	They say they're journalists, but they're not.
	The inherent dishonesty's never been this bad, Kaylee.
	Absolutely.
	Sean, you know, you're right to suggest that their opinion flows into their reporting.
	There's no line between.
	And there's also no line between the Democratic Party and the mainstream media.
	They are one and the same.
	It is why the media, 96% of donations went to Hillary.
	And what makes what they do so wrong is that they disguise fair and balanced reporting as they put their opinion in a disguise of fair and balanced reporting.
	Like ABC, NBC last night refusing to report that DeSantis had won the governorship.
	UFCBS's Dan Rather and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, all in the camp of Stacey Abrams, her campaign manager, admitted it on the airways.
	And the list goes on and on.
	This is opinion reporting disguised as journalism, plain and simple.
	Jeff, last word.
	Exactly right.
	That's exactly right.
	That whole dust-up with Jim Acosta began not because he said, Mr. President, you've defined invasion this way.
	Why?
	He didn't say that.
	What?
	He stood up and said, Mr. President, you're wrong with your definition.
	He was not wrong with his definition, and then proceeded to give his opinion and get into a debate.
	That's the difference.
	Sean, in a sense, he wants to be aware of it.
	It wouldn't be no different than me doing that to Obama.
	That's right.
	That's absolutely correct.
	Think about that.
	That's why it's out of place in that job.
	You know, I always said, and I got to run here, guys.
	I always said when Obama was president, I never got an interview, and I said, I really don't even want one because I'm in an untenable position.
	You have to respect that office, the office of the presidency.
	Whoever's president, they're the president of the country, all right?
	But so if I'm going to do a 15-minute interview, they're going to make it 15 minutes, and you're out the door.
	I'll ask three questions, and that's it.
	And if I appear interrupted, boy, my head is going to be chopped off by the liberal media.
	So it just, it wouldn't work, to be very blunt.
	It wouldn't have been a good situation.
	Yeah, I want to interview my guy Hannity.
	I want, you know, he actually said we could have a beer one day, and I offered to pay, but he never took me up on it.
	I don't know why.
	All right.
	Thank you, Kaylee.
	Good to hear from you.
	Jeff Lord, thank you.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	If we don't talk in the interim, 800-941-Sean, our number, quick break, write back.
	Your calls right after this.
	President was smart.
	If he wasn't so arrogant, he would see the writing on the wall and he would pull this nomination immediately.
	We're not talking about a mere accusation or allegation.
	And here's another important point: this isn't going to be adjudicated in one day or even two days.
	I have never struck a woman.
	I never will strike a woman.
	If you read further in the Declaration, they are far more specific and relating to Brett Kavanaugh's conduct towards women in general, including the attempts to drug women by placing grain alcohol and or drugs in basically the punch of these parties.
	That many of these women ended up gang raped, unfortunately.
	I mean, the details in this declaration are specific.
	They are shocking, but above all else, they are true.
	This confirmation process has become a national disgrace.
	The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy.
	This has destroyed my family and my good name.
	A good name built up through decades of very hard work and public service at the highest levels of the American government.
	Because she has a firm recollection of specific conduct by Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.
	And let me also say this: Brett Kavanaugh, in my opinion, has zero credibility.
	This man is an absolute liar.
	He's lied about big things and he's lied about small things.
	I've never sexually assaulted anyone.
	This guy has lied repeatedly throughout the process.
	Fox News, the Senate Judiciary Committee.
	I've never sexually assaulted anyone.
	Not in high school.
	Not ever.
	I've always treated women with dignity and respect.
	He is not a genuine person.
	He is lying repeatedly about drinking too much.
	I mean, let me get this straight.
	All of these women are liars.
	His friends from Yale Law School, they're liars.
	The only person that's telling the truth, the only person that's telling the truth, is Brett Kavanaugh.
	Listen to the people who've known me best through my whole life.
	The women who've known me since high school, the 65 who overnight signed a letter from high school saying I always treated them with dignity and respect.
	Does he want America to believe that the only thing that he did until well into his college years was effectively kiss or French kiss a woman?
	Is that what he wants America to believe?
	Well, because I don't believe it.
	I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career, and I'm going to continue to be an advocate.
	I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing.
	This is a circus.
	The consequences will extend long past my nomination.
	The consequences will be with us for decades.
	I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process.
	You've tried hard.
	You've given it your all.
	No one can question your effort.
	But your coordinated and well-funded effort to destroy my good name and destroy my family will not drive me out.
	I am innocent of this charge.
	All right, 24 now till the top of the hour, 800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number.
	You want to be a part of the program.
	Obviously, this has to do with Michael Avenatti.
	He has been arrested, domestic violence arrest, if true.
	Even the ladies of the view say he deserves to be raked over the coals.
	I'm going to get to that side of it in a second.
	I want to just be clear, as I said earlier in the program today.
	I ran into Michael once, never was that interested in how or why he was doing his story.
	That's fine.
	All the other media just fell in love with him, and he was the next media star.
	It's not about him.
	There's something far more profound and much deeper in play here than him personally.
	So I almost want to take him out, although you can't take him out of it because of what has happened here.
	He seemed to be suggesting in what he said last night that it was a gross misunderstanding.
	I think that's important.
	He said he's never hit a woman.
	He would never, ever do anything like that.
	His whole life has been dedicated to protecting women.
	LAPD now tells sources TMZ has reported that they observed injuries on the face of the alleged victim in this case and have now obtained protective orders that forbid Avenatti from going anywhere near this person who is still anonymous.
	But, and, you know, it's this isn't some what you've got here is serious allegations, but not from 40 years ago.
	This is the same week, same day.
	And if the quotes are true, she hit me first and all of that.
	If that turns out to be true, that is going to be, I think, pretty devastating to anybody.
	But I want to take that out of it.
	The most absurd, obscene, outrageous, when you go back to the Kavanaugh hearings, allegations that were made were made by his client, Julie Swetnik.
	And that's where, you know, that girls almost on a regular weekend basis were getting spiked punch that these high school boys were drugging them.
	And now the story changed, but then the boys would line up in the halls and they'd wait to take their turns and gang rape these girls.
	And again, it happened almost on a regular basis.
	Now, when the investigation began, well, two of the people, one was dead.
	The other one said, I had no idea who Julie Swetnik is.
	And there was never any corroborating evidence.
	And on the other side of that, you have her story changed.
	She backed off a lot of her explosive allegations when she was finally interviewed.
	And at this point, Chuck Grassley has referred Michael Avenati and Julie Swetnick for a criminal investigation to the Department of Justice.
	So this is not over by any stretch of the imagination.
	So what you have, and Alan Dershowitz, I remember, said at the time, Avenatti may not have, may have an ethical obligation to withdraw the Swetnik affidavit, especially when she started contradicting her own self here.
	But the point is, he went out in this case against Kavanaugh with a ferocious intensity that, like the Democrats, abandoned core fundamental values.
	Every one of the allegations was, there was never any corroboration.
	Again, we're talking about 40 years ago in most cases, 36 years ago, whatever it was.
	And they never were able to corroborate any of it.
	Many of the stories shifted or altered, changed, or no details were remembered at all.
	And people that were supposed to be an eyewitness, I remember in the case of Professor Ford said, no, it didn't happen.
	And the other people there said, I don't remember anything like this.
	And, you know, bit by bit.
	Now, in the meantime, this man's character is trashed, character assassination at a level that no, nobody should ever have to go to.
	My argument at the time was that we believe in due process, that it has served this country so well, and the presumption of innocence that has served us so well.
	And I'll say, I said it then, and I'm going to say it now.
	And Michael Avenatti deserves due process, the presumption of innocence, as he claimed in the press conference when he got out of, I guess he was being booked and charged in Los Angeles.
	He deserves it, but he didn't afford it to anybody else.
	He didn't afford it to Judge Kavanaugh.
	And in the case of Democrats in general, it was just a crush, bludgeon, destroy, kill somebody's character anyway, anyhow you need to do it.
	And there is a massive danger if we go down this road for everybody.
	I don't know Michael Avenatti.
	I don't know.
	We don't even know who the woman is.
	We don't have the facts of the case except that he's been charged and he proclaims his innocence.
	But why it's so important is that this fundamental constitutional protection of ours goes to the heart of our legal system.
	And I will adhere to that.
	You know, all my life I've been, and I said this earlier, from the Richard Jewell case on, I learned such a lesson when the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I'd love to see what that payoff was when I think they eventually got sued.
	Lynn Wood was the attorney, really good attorney down in the Atlanta area.
	And he took on Richard Jewell as a client.
	And oh, he fits the profile of a lone bomber because he lives with his mother.
	That was the whole case.
	And I said, this is absurd on the air.
	Had no idea Richard Jewell was listening to my show at the time.
	I was a local radio host in Atlanta.
	And then the next thing we know is he wasn't the guy.
	He was the hero.
	And everybody had gone with it.
	And they went insane with it.
	And he ended up being innocent.
	We have seen a rush to judgment constantly in the Obama years.
	It drove me nuts.
	Cambridge police acted stupidly or Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, or Ferguson, Missouri, or Baltimore, or what?
	Duke La Crosse was another example where there were a few of us by holding to those principles, we ended up being right.
	Withhold judgment.
	Wait for the facts to come in.
	And I did in every one of those cases.
	The UVA case is another one.
	Any more you can think of, Linda, we've done it all the time.
	You know, maybe the history of this, it's pretty scary stuff.
	It's scary stuff.
	And the thing is, I may not care for Michael Avenatti's politics, but he deserves what he didn't give Kavanaugh.
	And I think people really, you know, because it's him and because of how over the line he went, in one sense, I just think it's a very important moment for everybody to stand back because if it's you, if it's someone you know, if it's someone you love, if it's someone you care about, you are going to want those core principles working for you.
	It's hard.
	All right, let's get to our busy phones, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	Let's go to Linda Andrews Air Force Base.
	What's up, Linda?
	How are you?
	Hi, thank you, Sean.
	I am pissed.
	I am so upset.
	They need to shut the border completely.
	Shut it down now.
	The president needs to shut it down.
	These people are dangerous.
	They are saying that they're waiting for all the caravan so they can come through all of them together.
	And they don't care how many millions are soldiers or dead, they want to damage them.
	They are saying all kinds of stuff in Spanish, and the media is not reporting this.
	They need to shut the border completely.
	None of them come in.
	Enough is enough.
	This is disgraceful.
	Well, look, I want people to do it legally.
	I have no problem.
	You know, all the years that I worked in restaurants, all the years that I worked, I'll give you one example.
	When I was in my teens, there was a place in Long Island called Eisenhower Park.
	At the time, it was called Salisbury on the Green.
	It's a different place.
	It had five golf courses, and it was like a wedding factory.
	It was unbelievable.
	I mean, they do five weddings some Friday nights, believe it or not, five on Saturday, five at Saturday night, five Sunday, five Sunday night, tonight, 10 bar.
	I made a fortune as a kid, at least I thought at the time.
	And there were plenty of people that worked in the restaurant at the time.
	I think it's a county-owned restaurant, if I'm not mistaken.
	And once or twice every year, in would come the immigration's customs people and all these guys that worked in the kitchen, for example, would they be racing out the back door onto the golf course?
	And, you know, some would get caught and others would get away with it, get away and then come back to work.
	When I worked with them, I saw good people, great people, actually, doing hard jobs.
	I don't know what their pay was, but I don't expect it was very high, wanting what we take for granted.
	I get it.
	I understand it.
	But it has to be done legally.
	That's what we're asking.
	All right, back to our phones.
	Donna is in Staten Island.
	Donna, how are you?
	The all-new AM710WOR.
	What's going on?
	How are you, my friend?
	I'm good.
	What's happening?
	I find myself scratching my head because I'm kind of waiting for all those women in the Micho movement and all of the, you know, all the left-wing people to be screaming about Michael Avenatti.
	Should I not hold my breath lest I turn off?
	Well, think about all the people that joined with Avenatti and said, I believe her.
	I believe her.
	I mean, I can do a montage.
	I believe this one.
	I believe that one.
	And it just is a rush to judgment.
	In that case, for the worst possible reasons, for pure political gain and nothing else.
	And, you know, imagine if you are one of the daughters of Justice Kavanaugh now.
	Imagine that for a second.
	All your life, this will follow you.
	This will be with you.
	Names, character, reputations matter.
	And when you destroy somebody's, in this case, there was no evidence to back up or corroborate any of this.
	None.
	The witnesses' names that were mentioned said, no, it didn't happen.
	And it was, it's a shame what they did here, but it's not the first time.
	This is what borking is.
	This is what they did to Justice Thomas.
	This has happened far too often to far too many good people.
	You know, maybe people, look, if I was a total hypocrite, I'd say, well, maybe I believe whoever this anonymous woman is.
	I don't know anything about it.
	I just know he deserves what Kavanaugh deserved.
	He deserves presumption of innocence, due process.
	And that's my point.
	This is a monumental defining moment this week when you have someone like Cosby going to prison and then in the same breath, having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land.
	I am blown away.
	Before I saw this stuff, I'm like, oh, come on, what could be in this guy's yearbook?
	Like, a little nonsense.
	This is sick stuff.
	Right.
	The devil's triangle in your yearbook forever and ever.
	These people in Congress right now in that Senate Judiciary Committee, these white men, old, by the way, are not protecting women.
	They're protecting a man who is probably guilty.
	Not only do women like Dr. Ford, who bravely comes forward, need to be heard, but they need to be believed.
	They need to be believed.
	I just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up and step up.
	Do the right thing.
	Let me just say right at the outset, I believe Dr. Ford.
	I believe the survivor here.
	I believe her.
	I stand with her.
	Do you hope she shows up on Monday?
	Do you hope that she shows up?
	I don't think she should be bullied into this scenario where it's a he said, she said.
	It's a sham hearing.
	And I don't think she should participate in it.
	It's definitely attempted rape.
	I don't see it any other way.
	It was very upsetting to hear this, very disappointing.
	If it proves to be true, I will disavow him.
	I think he should take a polygraph test just to clear the air.
	I think that that would help him.
	And then we'll see what happens.
	What drives me crazy is the hypocrisy in these moments when it's who you like that you want to believe.
	And I think if you believe in due process with Kavanaugh, you should also believe in due process with Michael Avenatti.
	We don't know a lot.
	We don't know who the alleged victim is.
	But if true, I, you know, I'm so disappointed.
	I'm so disappointed.
	And I agree with you.
	We would have to disavow him.
	All right.
	What a different tone you get from the media.
	Glad you're with us.
	Hour two, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941.
	Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	What a difference in take and in attitude.
	If it's Judge Kavanaugh, somebody you have a political agenda against, it's, I believe you men sit down and shut up.
	I believe it's guilty, guilty of rape, guilty of this.
	And now we had on Wednesday of this week, Michael Avenati, who brought forward the most salacious charges against Judge Kavanaugh vis-a-vis a client, Julie Switnick.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	But he was booked on suspicion of domestic felony, domestic violence.
	And he has vehemently denied allegations saying, I've never struck a woman.
	I will never strike a woman.
	And I've been an advocate for women's rights my whole career.
	And he said it's completely bogus.
	Now he's claiming apparently that it's somehow political.
	I don't see what the political nature of it is, but that's neither here nor there.
	We found ourselves as a country, and I actually think the Republicans during the Kavanaugh hearing, they, for once, because they often screw things up royally, they treated these allegations, albeit last minute.
	Democrats held on to them, you know, for what, two months at the time, sat on them, didn't bring them up.
	And all of a sudden, last minute, we're getting to the eve of the vote.
	Then they bring up this, and then new charges come up.
	And then another, then Michael Avenati comes out with Julie Switnick.
	So the Republicans said, okay, they put a pause on the hearings, brought back Professor Ford and also Judge Kavanaugh.
	Now, Justice Kavanaugh of the Supreme Court.
	And we saw what happened with him.
	And we saw the impact it had on his family.
	And each case, one by one, when you started digging down into the allegation, in his case, 36 years ago, in the case of Professor Ford, for example, she had identified an eyewitness to the incident that had happened when he was back in high school.
	And in that case, the eyewitness said that never happened.
	I don't recall it ever happening.
	ever in any way, nor did anyone else, the other people whose names she mentioned.
	And then we go through the list, we get to Julie Swetnick, who had the most outrageous allegations of anybody, almost on a weekend basis, she was claiming that these teenage boys were drugging drinks, punch at parties and lining up in halls and literally, you know, waiting their turn to gang rape girls that had been drugged and that, you know, Kavanaugh was a part of it.
	Then she does an NBC news interview and the affidavit that she had given with, in this case, Michael Avenati, and also what she said in the interview, all of a sudden, well, no, not exactly what I'm saying.
	And the story changes on some very important issues, key things.
	And those also names that were mentioned never corroborated her story either.
	One person saying, never even heard of her.
	I have no idea who she is.
	So it fell apart.
	Now there is Chuck Grassley has sent a recommendation to the Department of Justice for a criminal investigation into what has gone on here.
	Justice Kavanaugh was voted onto the bench.
	I think the person that made the most articulate case was, well, two, Lindsey Graham was amazing in that hearing, number one.
	And number two, Susan Collins of Maine.
	She methodically, and we played the whole hour on this program, went through step by step by step how she reached her decision.
	And I thought it was probably her finest moment in the U.S. Senate.
	And good for her.
	Now, when Avenati came out at the time with Swetnik, it was guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.
	You know, that it's affirmed.
	It's this.
	Again, this is going back, you know, 36 years.
	And now he has these charges brought against him.
	My argument at the time, no due process, no presumption of innocence was provided Judge Kavanaugh.
	None because of political expediency.
	And now here we are.
	I just wonder.
	I mean, I have no idea whatsoever.
	I don't even have an opinion on any idea of whether these charges against Michael Avenatti are true or not true.
	I hope and pray if they're not true, that he is exonerated.
	If it is true, I hope justice would be served.
	I have nothing against Michael Avenatti.
	I do have a problem about those people that say I believe that know nothing.
	You know, at some point, we have got to make a decision here.
	And I think the decision is take any charge seriously.
	That's what it should be, like the Republicans did in the Kavanaugh hearings.
	Take it seriously, vet out the stories, and try to come to the truth.
	And that goes for Avenati.
	Nobody listening to this program now knows a fact about what really happened.
	It's something that, obviously, they thought it was serious enough of a claim to go forward with the, you know, the suspicion of domestic felony, domestic violence charges, but we don't know.
	And that's just fair.
	But I wish, why didn't he afford Kavanaugh what he now, I'm sure, wants for himself.
	Greg Jarrett, Fox News, legal analyst, also author of the number one bestseller, The Russia Hoax.
	Carrie Severino is with us, Chief Counsel, Policy Director, Judicial Crisis Network.
	Greg, your thoughts.
	Well, you were the very first person within a couple of hours of the Avenati story breaking that said, you said this very clearly and repeatedly, he deserves the presumption of innocence and due process.
	And you're to be commended for that.
	And I think you really led the way for a lot of people.
	The irony, of course, as you point out, is that Avenatti wanted to deprive Kavanaugh of those basic, fundamental, and important American principles of justice.
	Now he wants to enjoy those presumptions of innocence and due process himself.
	So the irony is lost on no one.
	You know, anybody can make an accusation, but we have a process in America in which proof is required.
	But, you know, Avenatti wanted to essentially ruin the life and career, fine reputation of Brett Kavanaugh without presentation of proof because he submitted an affidavit that we now know was faulty.
	It was in some parts disavowed by his client, Julia Swetnick, when she gave an interview.
	So it's correct that the Department of Justice should be investigating, Avenatti and Swetnik, as to whether or not they presented false material, false and misleading statements to Congress, which is, by the way, a very serious crime.
	So I stand by your original statement that Avenatti is innocent until proven guilty.
	Carrie, many of the people that came out immediately and said, I believe, whether it was Swetnik or whether it was Professor Ford, et cetera, this was before Professor Ford was known to anybody, had ever said a word to anybody.
	It was only a letter that had been sent to Dianne Feinstein through another, I believe, state legislator at the time.
	All of those people that said, I believe, not one have I heard say a single word about whether we should believe the woman that's making the allegations against Michael Avenatti.
	Is it because it's not important to them?
	Is it because the issue's not important to them?
	Is it because there's no politics in play?
	It was just like all the allegations that existed.
	And again, these are recent allegations.
	These aren't 36 years old.
	Or the allegations against Keith Ellison or many on that Senate committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee, that love the Clintons and ignore all the issues with Bill Clinton and Juanita and Kathleen and Paula, etc.
	It's interesting, isn't it, which people they choose to believe and then they just are silent on others.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, the silence is deafening.
	And I think it's exactly right.
	These are the same people who lined up to defend Bill Clinton, even in the face of proven misconduct.
	And, you know, here they're not willing to stand by the faulty anti-due process principles they wanted to put on their political enemies.
	They don't want to apply to everyone.
	What we need here is exactly, as we've been talking about, a rule of law that applies to everyone.
	That means innocent until proven guilty.
	Whether I like your politics or dislike them, whether it's going to help or hurt my personal interests, we have to make sure we're being fair to all parties.
	And like you, I don't know what the truth is in this.
	I hope that we find out the truth, but we can't jump to the conclusions based on whether we like the person accused or think it would be politically convenient for that person to be found guilty or thought guilty.
	Because people kept on saying, well, this isn't a court of law.
	This is just the court of public opinion.
	That doesn't change things.
	Our American system is one where there's a fundamental value of understanding that innocence until proven guilty.
	And that means when you're in a courtroom, but also in terms of how we speak in the court of public opinion.
	So I think it's great that we're able to talk about this and say, let's reserve judgment.
	And hopefully maybe set an example.
	I'm hoping that some people on the left, seeing this contrast, I mean, I was struck when you were reading it, hearing his words of, well, I've never done this and I never would.
	I've spent my career advocating for the rights of women.
	That's almost word for word what Gret Kavanaugh said.
	So if you're not going to be able to do that.
	But let me make a prediction.
	I'm telling you right now.
	If you believe it here, believe it then.
	And I guess he's upset.
	I guess the RNC has asked for the arrest records in this particular case, and he claims he's innocent.
	You know, I'll even take it a step further, Greg.
	I hope no man would ever do this to any woman ever.
	I would hope that would be the case, regardless of one's politics, but I can make a prediction, and I know with 100% certainty I'm right.
	If the Democrats need to do this politically again, the ones that won't say anything now or didn't say anything about Clinton or Ellison, they'll be right back to where they were.
	It's happened.
	Look at the slander of Kennedy against Robert Bork.
	Look at what Clarence Thomas went through.
	Real quick, Greg.
	Well, let me just say a couple of things.
	As a California lawyer who grew up in Los Angeles and practiced there, I can affirm that they don't make an arrest and book somebody on a felony charge without probable cause, which means at least the detectives who made the arrest and booked him on that felony charge felt that there was evidence of, under the statute, significant visible injuries.
	But not a Democrat.
	The one line in TMZ that, you know, if it turned out to be true, Greg, legally, well, she hit me first.
	That to me would be a devastating, devastatingly hard to defend in court, wouldn't it?
	If that in fact is true.
	It would.
	On the one hand, it's a self-serving statement by the accused that he's defending himself.
	But on the other hand, it's an admission, a confession that he hit her second.
	You know, it's one thing to defend yourself against an individual, especially a woman who's hitting you and you might grab her arms or wrists and so forth.
	But these were reportedly injuries to the face of the alleged victim.
	And so that will be a damning admission if, in fact, it's true that he hit her in the face.
	And at some point, Kerry, I would assume, I mean, I guess others have applied for this as well on the media, but people are wanting the arrest records.
	I assume with that might be some, you know, if there's any physical evidence that might be released or mugshots.
	I don't know what they're looking for.
	Yeah, definitely a possibility that that stuff's going to come out.
	I mean, she hit me first is something I heard yesterday from my five-year-old.
	So I'm hoping that that doesn't be an accurate excuse because it didn't work with me as a mom, and I don't think it would work in court.
	But I think there's just so much more.
	There's a lot more research that needs to be done before we can come to any conclusions on this is the challenge.
	With no corroborating evidence and all of obviously a lot of politics for the rest of his life, his wife's life and his kids' lives, sadly, these charges against Justice Kavanaugh are out there and what he went through.
	And that's the danger of somebody if they make an allegation and it's false or unprovable or no evidence whatsoever.
	You know, people rush to judgment just because of maybe the noise that they hear on it and they don't have any objectivity.
	The principles of due process, presumption of innocence are key.
	All right, thank you both.
	Kerry, thank you.
	Greg, always great to have you, my friend.
	800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number.
	All right, a lot of calls today.
	We will get to the phones right after this as we continue.
	The unemployment numbers are down.
	The importance of getting jobs.
	Why is that so important for our country?
	Well, it's our identity.
	You know, what we do has always been the centerpiece of who we are.
	And for the last 10 years, my foundation has been focused on opportunity that actually exists.
	So there's this narrative, we've discussed it a thousand times, that the reason people aren't working is because opportunity is dead.
	That's just not the case.
	We have nearly 7 million jobs now that are available.
	If you want a job, there's a job waiting for you.
	Well, 75% of them don't require a four-year degree, they require training.
	So my little foundation has always been focused on that.
	My grandfather, who was kind enough to bring her into the world, or at least in part, was an electrical contractor, lived right next door to us.
	So I had a front-row seat growing up to the kind of work ethic and the kind of skill that built our country.
	Is that your grandfather?
	Where's he somebody?
	Yes, that's your dad.
	That's your dad, mom, and that's Nana, right there.
	And which brings us to a full introduction.
	This is Peggy Rowe right here.
	And you were kind enough to, how did you get your son to write the forward on your book?
	That was a big coup.
	He's famous.
	I know he is.
	Right.
	But he's still my son.
	Right.
	And he does what I tell him to do.
	What was he like?
	Would you like to talk?
	Yes, we would love.
	We love the fact that you are now 100% employed promoting this book.
	It's called About My Mother.
	Yes, it is.
	And it is about my mother.
	That growing up with a mother who was always in charge.
	Always in charge.
	What does that mean?
	And the funny word.
	Always in charge.
	She made all the decisions.
	All the decisions.
	She told me which political party I was in when I was little.
	Which party were you in?
	Well, that's personal.
	Tell him.
	Tell him.
	Now I think for myself.
	How important is that to be a strong mother?
	What'd you learn from her?
	She was honest, first and foremost.
	Like I say, she was always in charge.
	She made all the decisions.
	We didn't do anything unless it was okay with my mother.
	Get to your calls here in a few minutes.
	800-941 Sean is our number.
	You want to be a part of the program.
	I know people get sick of when I talk about my jobs that I've had.
	Paperboy at eight, dishwasher at 12, short order cook at.
	Well, I did steaks and lobsters, so maybe not short order at 13, busboy, 14, 15, waiter, bartender, and then my years in construction as a house painter.
	I learned how to hang wallpaper, made a lot of money doing that, laying tile, framing houses, doing roofing, and reconstruction.
	It was, you know, over two decades of my life.
	And I was just obsessed with Mike Rowe's show about dirty jobs.
	And I, because I felt like, you know, look, I even worked in a shipyard once.
	It was a pretty dirty job at times.
	And I see these crazy jobs that he goes see.
	And it's, it fascinates me to see the hard work, the lives of other Americans, what they do to support themselves and their families.
	It's amazing.
	It's just, it's fascinating.
	Things that we don't know about other people.
	Anyway, Mike Rowe is back with us.
	And believe it or not, his mom is with us.
	This is amazing.
	He brings his mother with us.
	And he's authored a new book about my mother.
	True stories of a horse crazy daughter and her baseball-obsessed mother, a memoir from the book.
	Anyway, welcome both of you to the program.
	Mike, how are you?
	Sean, everything is great, but let me just set the stage for you right now.
	We are stuck in crosstown traffic.
	I'm in an SUV with my parents.
	My mom's just eating a hoagie.
	She's sitting here next to me, thrilled to.
	By the way, people in New York, are you in New York?
	They don't know what a hoagie is.
	That's a Rhode Island term.
	Well, it was some sort of meat thing wrapped into some sort of bread thing.
	And I, you know, my partner's a little bit more.
	It's called a sandwich.
	It's called a, I don't know what does Subway call it now.
	I don't even know.
	A foot long, whatever it is, my mom destroyed it, and now most of it's gone from her mouth, so she's ready to speak.
	Mom, say hey to Sean Hannity.
	Hi, Sean Hennedy.
	How are you?
	Hi, Peggy Rowe.
	How are you?
	Now, you've got to be so proud of this crazy son of yours.
	But also, so you write this book about true stories of a horse-crazy daughter, her baseball-obsessed mother, and you know, a pretty fascinating life with this crazy son of yours.
	Well, what can I say?
	It's still part of my life.
	My mother was part of my life for what, 70?
	How many years?
	70 years.
	Yeah.
	And Mike's been part of my life for 56 years now.
	And if it weren't for Mike, I don't think I would have published this book.
	And if it weren't for mom, I wouldn't be sitting here in an education.
	If it wasn't for mom and dad, you wouldn't be here, period.
	Let's be very blunt and honest about this.
	Well, you know, it's funny because I think we just had Veterans Day yesterday, and I was talking about how we don't have any freedom.
	We don't have any liberty.
	We don't even have a country.
	But for all those people that bravely sacrificed, they put everything on the line.
	I love people that put everything on the line with heroism and courage and just, you know, they do what needs to be done.
	Forget Washington.
	It's the heart and soul of America is the people that get up every day, shovel coffee down their throats, get their kids dressed for school, pack their lunch, race out, do their 10, 12, 14 hours, you know, cook something as quickly as they can, do the homework with the kids, pass out from exhaustion.
	You know, the ones that obey the laws, play by the rules, pay taxes.
	They're the ones, Mike, that make this country great.
	You covered them with dirty jobs.
	That was my favorite show.
	Why did you stop hosting it?
	Well, we did 300 of them, and there was a genuine concern that I was going to collapse permanently.
	But look, believe it or not, never say never.
	It wouldn't shock me to see dirty jobs come back around because I'd love that.
	I would want to do that's a show I would want to do myself.
	That's how much I love it.
	Careful what you wish for.
	Careful what you wish for.
	I'll make you a deal.
	If you want to switch careers for a couple of months, by the way, you really want all the bad press I get.
	People like you.
	People love you.
	They don't love me.
	I have some people that love me, but I have a whole group of other people that would love to hear the news Hannity's dead being reported at the top of the hour news.
	Trust me.
	Well, listen, I'm not sure what to say to that, except that the only person I've ever met on planet Earth who was universally loved by every single person who ever met her is trapped in this SUV with me right now.
	It's my mother.
	And that's, I mean, I'm not even, obviously, I'm biased, but I'm sitting here.
	You've been in the book business a long time.
	She's going to the top of the charts, Sean.
	No, no, no.
	She beat Bob Woodward's book in sales.
	That blew my mind.
	I was like, that is awesome.
	I thought that was great.
	How did that make you feel, Peggy?
	Oh, my golly.
	I was beyond excited.
	That was great.
	I might do it again.
	Who knows?
	I hope people go buy the book just for that reason.
	And you wonder why I have enemies.
	She's going to be 81 years old in two weeks or something like that.
	When is your birthday?
	January or something.
	January.
	How could you be 56 years old and not know your mother's birthday?
	What's wrong with you?
	I'm under a lot of pressure, Sean.
	Okay, I host a lot of high-pressure shows, and it's very hard for me to remember obvious things.
	But I know this much.
	I know this much is true.
	The divide in the country will never ever go away unless we find things that still unite us and truly join us.
	Motherhood is somewhere on that list.
	And what my mom has done, whether she meant to or not, is prove it.
	She's written a book that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that decency is alive and well in households from sea to shining sea.
	You just have to look for the American.
	The American people are the best.
	It's the people that do all those crazy jobs that you would cover on your show.
	Let me ask you that question.
	What are the craziest, dirtiest jobs of all those 300 episodes?
	Well, look, I mean, it's very difficult to compare, you know, a bridge builder with a skull cleaner or an opal miner.
	I couldn't be a bridge builder because I would freak out at the height.
	You think you couldn't do it, but if you compare it to mining opals, which involves being lowered down.
	I wouldn't want to do that one.
	By the way, I fell off a roof three stories once in the middle of webinar.
	I did a lot, Sean.
	Well, it's the moment I woke up and became a conservative and I busted my arm.
	Literally, I hit the ground and imagine from your elbow, from my elbow down, was totally disconnected from my arm and dangling.
	Out.
	Yeah, and interestingly, I went, ah, ah!
	And I snapped it perfectly back into place.
	That's a true story.
	You've got to write a book called I Fell Off a Roof and Became a Conservative.
	It's true.
	By the way, I bet your mother's a conservative.
	Are you a conservative, Peggy?
	Don't tell him.
	In some respects, no, Peggy, don't listen to him.
	He doesn't even know your birthday.
	He's not selling your book.
	I am.
	Tell me.
	In some respects, I am a conservative.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	In some respects, I'm not.
	Listen to me, Sean.
	There is no hate.
	There is no hatred in my book.
	My book is kind of a feel-good book.
	It's humorous, and it has 19 stories in it that we can all relate to.
	If you have a mother, you can relate to my stories.
	You can read my stories and say, hey, my mother was like that.
	You know, I do miss.
	I lost my parents.
	My father, six months, in my 23rd year at Fox, six months after I started there, there's hardly a day that I don't think about him.
	You can relate to my book.
	Oh, but I was an incorrigible child.
	Was Mike an incorrigible child?
	No, no, he really wasn't.
	He was a rule follower.
	He was no.
	We wouldn't have been friends.
	We would not have been friends.
	I wouldn't have allowed him to play with anybody like you.
	No, you wouldn't.
	Listen, there were a lot of kids that weren't allowed to play with me.
	And I don't know why I was so my mother would say, don't leave that house.
	And my mom, by the way, was a prison guard.
	Just so you know, she was a pretty tough lady.
	But I'd look at her and say, you can't stop me.
	And I'd walk out.
	It's horrible how I treated how I was.
	And I don't know why I was like that.
	Sean, let me just explain what's happened.
	All right.
	This is the power of my mother from an SUV trapped in crosstown traffic.
	She's got you to reveal that you fell off a roof, became a conservative.
	You're sharing secrets in your life.
	She literally got you on the couch over a cell phone from an SUV.
	A lot of people have been saying for years I need to be on a couch.
	So yeah, maybe I'll just call your mom once a week and we'll have conversations with her.
	Remember David Letterman used to put his mom on all the time?
	Sure.
	Your mother sounds a lot like my mother.
	I think my mother could have been a prison guard if she wanted to be.
	But as it was, she was a homemaker and raised two children.
	But she had the wherewithal to control the circumstances around her.
	She knew how to make decisions.
	I think she could be a little bossy.
	Was your mother a little bossy?
	Oh, she tried to be.
	But here's the thing, the wonderful thing about my parents is, and she worked many 16-hour shifts.
	I mean, and they did it for their kids.
	They literally, no new cars.
	The first new car I think they got was in, you know, I was in ninth grade.
	No vacations, private schools for their kids.
	And I owed them more than I gave them to be blunt, you know, if I'm going to be truthful.
	But in the end, you know, I realized they were wonderful people, just amazed, far better than I could ever be.
	You know, that's the interesting thing about my book, which, by the way, is called About My Mother.
	By the way, do you like, what did Mike tell you to say it every 30 seconds?
	I mean, no, no, I don't, this is the first time I've said it.
	Listen, Sean, do you have a couch?
	Pull up a couch.
	I want to talk to you about your mother.
	Okay, I'm listening.
	Did your mother have any obsessions?
	Was she crazy nuts about anything like baseball?
	My mother was crazy about baseball.
	She embarrassed me every day of Facebook.
	She actually used to be a big crocheter, and she'd make me these hideous, ugly sweaters and give them to me.
	I'm like, mom, I'm not wearing that thing anywhere.
	It's so mean.
	But she loved it, was good at it.
	You know, I am ruining my career here.
	Mike's the greatest son in the world, and I'm horrible, but I've got to run.
	Mike Rowe, we love you.
	Thank you, Peggy.
	You are a delightful, wonderful woman.
	Made me laugh all day.
	About my mother, true stories, horse crazy daughter, or baseball obsessed mom, a memoir, amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores, anywhere.
	Mike, I need to see you soon.
	I'd love to do dirty jobs with you.
	Careful what you wish for, brother.
	And next time we do it in person, you just, by the way.
	What?
	It's been decided.
	My mother is my mom is now America's grandmother, thanks to you.
	Congratulations.
	Yeah, well, remember, I was the incorrigible one.
	Good luck.
	She's going to have a lot of trouble reining me in.
	Thank you, guys.
	Good to talk to you.
	Peggy.
	God bless you.
	You're a wonderful woman with a great heart.
	We appreciate it.
	Thank you, Sean.
	This was fun, and good luck in the future.
	I may ask one other question.
	Mr. President, if I may ask one other question, are you worried about it?
	That's enough.
	That's enough.
	Mr. President, I was going to ask one of the other folks.
	That's enough.
	Pardon me, ma'am.
	Mr. President, that's enough.
	Ms. President, I want to say that.
	That's enough.
	Put down the mic.
	Ms. President, are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation?
	Mr. President.
	I'll tell you what, CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them.
	You are a rude, terrible person.
	You shouldn't be working for CNN.
	Go ahead, please.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	George, Sergeant George, I'm not responding.
	I'm responding to.
	Excuse me.
	I'm not responding to you.
	I'm talking to this gentleman.
	Would you please sit down?
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me.
	Would you please sit down?
	Please, go ahead.
	CNN's argument is very straightforward, that the First Amendment is meant for the press to be able to act on behalf of the American people and the public in getting information.
	And here, when the White House revoked Mr. Acosta's press pass, it's clear was based on the content of his reporting, the fact that he was asking tough questions and has been doing that.
	President Trump in the White House has repeatedly challenged and attacked CNN and Mr. Acosta.
	And it's really a classic First Amendment viewpoint content-based discrimination against speech.
	And we can't have the White House or government officials arbitrarily tossing people out of the White House or other government facilities just because they don't like what they're saying or what they're reporting.
	That's what happened here.
	That violates the First Amendment.
	CNN tried to work this out, requested that the pass be restored.
	Mr. Acosta was denied a day pass in France, even though the French government would have allowed him to go cover President Trump's appearance at a cemetery.
	But the White House has basically just been ignoring these requests, so we really had no choice but to sue.
	We didn't want to have to go to court.
	We wanted to just report the news.
	Mr. Acosta wants to report the news.
	CNN wants to report the news.
	So that's what the courts are for.
	The First Amendment and the Fifth Amendment arguments, the due process arguments are very strong.
	We're asking for emergency relief because every day that this pass has been revoked is a First Amendment violation and it's irreparable harm in the words of the law.
	The president's tone.
	Jim, I'm pressing.
	Thanks for watching.
	The president's tone towards the press obviously is not helpful at times, and I think that that's plain to see.
	There are some fears up on Capitol Hill, and we understand some in the White House, that a Democratic wave is coming and could sweep the Republicans out of power in the House, and that could potentially lead to impeachment proceedings that the Democrats could bring forward.
	What is the president's thinking on that?
	What is your thinking on that?
	I understand how the law could be different than border security, sir.
	Border security couldn't mean agents.
	It could mean more fencing.
	It doesn't necessarily mean a physical.
	And that's part of the negotiation that we expect Congress to have.
	I understand Democrats are saying that they may not be in favor of this kind of deal, but they say thanks, but no thanks for a wall.
	Jim, I'm not negotiating with you.
	I'm going to let Congress take care of that.
	What we're witnessing right now is just this erosion of our freedoms in terms of covering the president of the United States.
	I think that there are moments when this president is just really sensitive to criticism and he lashes out in this fashion.
	That is just a strange and unprecedented thing to do to be throwing rolls and paper towels at people.
	The last three news conferences, Wolf, all of the questions to the American news media have been handled by conservative press.
	And I think, Wolf, there's no other way to describe it, but the fix is in.
	Jim, as always, Jim, let me ask you a question home to the world for people to say push the event.
	Do you believe he's going to be highly skilled?
	They're not always.
	Jim, Jim, Jim, I appreciate your speech.
	I think we saw the president's true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue.
	This is CNN.
	All right, news roundup information overload.
	That's only a small little portion of Jim Acosta and his phony moments with the president.
	There's a great column today by Law and Crime.
	It's a great website if you want to follow legal issues in the news.
	And it is a sister website to Dan Abrams Mediaite.
	And it's really good.
	There's great coverage.
	I don't always agree with it, but you get some really good information.
	There's a great column.
	I don't know who wrote it today, but it was really well done.
	And they are claiming that the constitutional rights of Jim Acosta and CNN have been violated here.
	When Acosta, how many times does a president need to say to one reporter when he has other reporters that want to ask questions?
	That's enough.
	And when a White House aide attempted to take the microphone to give it to another reporter, after the president says 10 times, that's enough, he didn't relinquish the microphone.
	Now, what's great about this article is, you know, CNN's claim, well, Acosta just asked a question about one of the president's statements during the midterm.
	As long crime pointed out, that's false.
	Acosta did not simply ask a question.
	He made a statement.
	He said, I want to challenge you.
	He's the president on one of the statements you made in the tail end of the campaign.
	And he cited the president's characterization of a migrant caravan as an invasion.
	Well, if they make it to the border and what happened on the Mexican southern border happened here, then that would be accurate.
	And the president obviously wanted to get ahead of it.
	Or the potential caravan becoming an invasion or some type of conflict.
	Innocent people could get hurt.
	It would be horrible.
	Anyway, as you know, Mr. President, the caravan was not an invasion.
	It's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border of the U.S.
	Well, with the stated goal of walking across our borders illegally.
	Why did you characterize it as such?
	Do you think you have demonized immigrants in this election?
	And then it goes on from there.
	The president did respond to Acosta.
	Now, by the way, Acosta and CNN, they have an opportunity to send anybody there.
	Nobody shut them out completely.
	So the president responded regarding the characterization.
	He says, because I do consider it an invasion.
	You and I have a different opinion.
	And, you know, and from there, it just disintegrated.
	And at this point, the White House is rightly saying, and I think they're right in their characterization of this.
	Of course, the White House correspondents people, they love it.
	More grandstanding from CNN.
	Now, CNN claims that they are news.
	It's almost every second, every hour, every minute, every day, bashing the president.
	And they have their own issues of credibility, everything from racist on down.
	Anyway, here to weigh in on this is Joe Concha.
	He's a media reporter, columnist for the Hill.
	He actually does his own online TV show now.
	Congratulations to you for that.
	What's your take on him?
	I'm pretty interested where you go with this.
	Well, Sean, I think the lawsuit is silly and it's a grab for attention while making Acosta and CNN the victim, which they're both exceptionally accomplished at.
	CNN, as you said, can still report from the White House, just not Acosta.
	When you break the rules, there has to come accountability.
	And the bottom line is that CNN has nearly 50 other press credentials, White House press credentials.
	So they're certainly not locked out, right?
	And look, Acosta, as you said, doesn't want to report the news, as we heard in that soundbite just a little bit earlier.
	He wants to opine.
	He wants to share his feelings.
	He wants to act like a 47-year-old version of the captain of the debate team.
	And since when is it a First Amendment, by the way, to attend press briefings?
	Because that means, because I don't have a hard pass to the White House, I'm a media reporter.
	So I mean, I get to go, you get to go, the guy in the grease truck outside gets to go, my local librarian gets to go, because you're going to need a bigger boat if everybody gets to go there and ask questions of the press secretary or the president.
	And the bottom line is, if this is kind of a move to put CNN and Acosta front and center, so we're talking about it so it drives ratings, it ain't working because that network has lost viewers.
	And you compare it to October 2017, October 2018.
	Remember, October 2018 had the Kavanaugh hearings, which was a ratings juggernaut for a lot of people.
	They lost viewers by nearly 10%.
	They're getting beat.
	And this isn't a joke.
	I'm not being snarky.
	I'm just a guy who's like reporting sports scores.
	They're getting beat in total viewers by the Hallmark channel, which is really hard to do.
	I don't care what they do over there.
	In all seriousness, they claim that they are journalists.
	They claim they don't have opinions.
	They actually say they don't have opinion shows.
	Like Don Lemon's an anchor and Chris Cuomo's an anchor and Anderson Cooper's an anchor.
	And then all your opinion from those three guys.
	Just own it.
	You know, and it's funny because people all the time will say, well, you're not a journalist.
	I say, I don't claim to be, but I do claim to be a talk show host.
	And I can play for you right now.
	I can literally go on the archives, radio, and TV and play hours and hours and hours of coverage over the years of me doing straight reporting on important news stories.
	No opinion, straight reporting, be it about a war, a hurricane, all sorts of issues.
	But I also, as a talk show host, your opinions most.
	That's why people are tuning in to you.
	Okay, but wait a minute.
	I would argue that we do investigative reporting.
	Obama, his radical associations, his record after eight years that nobody else talks about.
	More recently, with the deep state.
	So we do investigative reporting.
	Sometimes we do straight-up reporting.
	We absolutely do opinion with me telling everybody I'm a conservative.
	You're like a newspaper.
	I'm the whole newspaper.
	They're supposed to be the nukes.
	It's not sports, in my opinion, which I used to be a sports comment.
	So you ever need anybody to talk about this?
	No, I can never win with you.
	I just, you know, you always, there's always something.
	I can't please everybody.
	Go ahead.
	Anyway, look, the president took 68 questions during that press conference last week.
	I mean, that's a lot from 35 reporters.
	I'm not very good at math.
	I believe if you divide 68 by 35, it comes to about two per reporter.
	And Jim Acosta tried to ask four different questions after, as you said, said, I want to challenge you, then went into a debate, then gave a lecture on what an invasion is and what isn't.
	And after two questions, every other reporter says, okay, well, that's the way it's always been when you go through Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, doesn't matter.
	You basically get one question, one follow-up, maybe, and that's it.
	Acosta, after four questions, doesn't give up the microphone the way my three-year-old doesn't give up a lollipop when it's time to go to bed.
	So how could anybody defend him at this point?
	And all I ask, and it's not going to happen, but I'll throw it out there anyway.
	It just takes one major White House correspondent, just one, to say, look, Jim, what you're doing is hijacking these press briefings.
	You've been doing it for two years.
	There are some serious reporters in this room, like John Roberts from Fox or Jeff Mason from Reuters or John Carl from ABC, people trying to get answers to inform the American people, and you're making it about yourself every time so you can go viral and expand your own brand.
	Please stop.
	We don't appreciate maybe the way the president's talking about us.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But we also don't appreciate the way that you're making this about yourself.
	If one reporter did that within that room, I think you'd hear a whole different narrative.
	But the Hive mentality and the fear of reprisal, probably from their employer and from others in the industry, you're not going to see anybody do that.
	But hey, one could ask.
	You know, and it's such a good point.
	And I think Law and Crime made a great point on this, too.
	If Acosta's reporting were the real reasons, Trump, you know, he wouldn't have called on him in the first place.
	And by the way, he has been repeatedly rude to Sarah Sanders.
	The president was dead on accurate about all of that.
	Lock out chicken tie.
	It goes beer on Friday night.
	A pair of cheese should get just right.
	The energy you put you in a great mood on a Friday.
	We need that.
	All right, by the way, Vets Day is Sunday.
	It's the 11th, and we celebrate it.
	A lot of you will be off on Monday.
	You have a long weekend.
	I don't think I will be off.
	I'm working tonight on Hannity.
	I will be there at 9 p.m., obviously, with all of the shenanigans, laws being broken all over the place in Broward and Palm Beach and in Florida.
	And how do you go from 60,000 votes to 15,000?
	Is there not one Republican vote that they're finding?
	They only find Democratic votes.
	First, I want to introduce you.
	They're not only an advertiser on this program.
	I'm friends with these guys.
	Evan Haper's with us.
	He's the CEO of BlackRifleCoffee.com/slash Hannity.
	Not only is it the best coffee company, as I tell you in these ads, it really is.
	You have every single level of strength and flavor that you would ever want.
	The story behind how they built this company is amazing.
	They hire vets.
	They hire first responders.
	They donate to vets.
	They donate to first responders.
	And on this Veterans Day weekend, I wanted to just say, A, thank you.
	Evan, welcome back to the program.
	And B, you know what?
	Why support these liberal companies that don't share our values?
	It's nuts.
	Your company's growing by leaps and bounds.
	Well, first and foremost, thank you, Sean, for having us back.
	Definitely, I can't thank you enough.
	And it's wonderful to hear your voice and be on the show again.
	So, Black Rifle Coffee, we're growing leaps and bounds.
	We opened up a new roasting facility just outside of Nashville in Coffey County.
	One of the big reasons was because it's Coffee County and because we had a high number of veteran and civil service members out there that we could employ.
	We've got a new facility in San Antonio, Texas.
	So we expanded to Military Town, USA.
	We still got a roaster out in Utah.
	So we're Utah, Tennessee, and San Antonio.
	And soon we're going to have Black Rifle Coffees for people to walk in and drink a cup of coffee in both Tennessee and Texas.
	So we're expanding and moving fast.
	Well, that's pretty amazing.
	I mean, is this something that's going to maybe build into Black Rifle Coffee everywhere we used to see a Starbucks?
	I would love that.
	I tell you what, that's the plan, Sean.
	That's exactly what we want to do: we want to, what I tell people is we want to give them the opportunity to vote with their dollar and vote for the companies that support what they believe in.
	And it's in our mission statement.
	You know, we like to, we love to serve coffee and content to people that love America.
	We're unashamed in our service and our pride and country.
	And I think that there are a lot of businesses out there that really, they get out there and they don't like America at the end of the day.
	You know, and that's the difference between Black Rifle Coffee and them is we're miles apart typically on the political spectrum.
	And two, we really do put our money where our mouth is.
	What I say is it's not PR, it's who we are.
	So we get out.
	We've got above a 50% higher rate for veterans.
	We just launched a new initiative with the Pentagon Federal Credit Union to help fund veteran entrepreneurs.
	So the Veteran Entrepreneur Investment Program, where we earmarked $200,000 to be divvied out for veterans and about two to $20,000 to $50,000 investment opportunities for them.
	So we're trying to put our money where our mouth is every day, protect the community, create opportunities for those that have served and promote America.
	The thing is, I love how this company was started too, because you had guys overseas and they couldn't get a good cup of coffee.
	And didn't you all start ordering different blends, coffee beans?
	I sound like Linda for a second, coffee.
	Coffee beans.
	And then you made, you came up with your own blend.
	You did it yourselves.
	I mean, that's the amazing.
	And you did it out of the need and a desire for the best cup of coffee, which I love every day and I can't live without.
	You're exactly right.
	I started roasting coffee because I couldn't get a great cup of coffee.
	And I was deploying back and forth to Iraq at the time.
	And I was roasting coffee at home to take big duffel bags of coffee overseas with me to not only drink, but then give to the guys that I was working with.
	And it caught on to the point where I was giving away a lot of coffee to my friends and family.
	And a lot of people asked me, well, where did you come up with the name, Black Rifle Coffee?
	I had a little one-pound roaster on the back tailgate of my pickup while I was working for the CIA at the time.
	And I had my service rifle next to it, which was a black rifle and a little one-pound roaster.
	And I was roasting coffee for everybody in the course that I was teaching.
	One of the guys came up and was like, man, you should have a coffee company.
	And I said, yeah, I could call it, you know, Black Rifle Coffee Company.
	But it's quite literally in respect to our service rifle.
	It's a piece of life-saving equipment that protected me and the other founders of the company for over a decade where we served.
	And we should be proud of that.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think the fact that you hire vets, first responders, you created the best product on the market.
	That always helps.
	That you give back so much to vets and first responders and those causes is amazing.
	Thanks for being a part of the show.
	Look, it's blackriflecoffee.com/slash Hannity.
	You get a first 15% discount.
	You guys do have the coolest videos of anybody on the web, but I've got to warn you, they're rated R. Maybe.
	Some of them, yeah.
	Yeah, some of them.
	Show me one that's not.
	All right, my friend, say hi to everybody for me.
	800-941 Sean is our number.
	Paul Lovello is with us, too.
	He's the Chief Master Sergeant, is the founder executive director of Operation Restored Warrior, and he's here to talk about our need for awareness of our vets that are coming home.
	There are over 250,000 facing PTSD, and the suicide rate among vets coming back has been astronomical off the hook.
	I can't tell you how many times that I would hear from anybody or somebody, even an acquaintance of somebody, and they say that somebody's struggling.
	They're about to kill themselves.
	And I usually call my friend Oliver North and Ollie gets on the phone.
	We'll spend hours and hours with people.
	We work to find a program that works for them.
	And anyway, Master Sergeant, Chief Master Sergeant, Paul Lavelle, thank you, sir, for being with us.
	Hi, Sean.
	Thanks for having me.
	Well, tell me exactly what you guys are doing and how you're helping these guys out.
	I mean, the bottom line, the answer is we've overdeployed them.
	It's just a fact.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, our organization, Operation Restored Warrior, we've been around now for 10 years, and we've helped hundreds and hundreds of veterans coming back from combat to address the issues of combat stress, post-traumatic stress.
	And we do it in five days.
	We deal with some of the most stressed out guys that have suicide ideation.
	And we address this in a five-day program that I developed.
	And we've got literally, every single warrior who comes through our program, doesn't matter whether you're an E1 or you're a three-star general, which we've had all of those guys come through, they get restoration in the five-day program.
	That's a pretty amazing thing.
	Now, do you have enough space?
	Do you have enough people involved in this for the demand that is out there, which is greater than we ever thought it could be?
	Because I know the VA is changing, and I know there have been changes, and I know there are a lot of private organizations, you know, Rivers for Recovery, Building Homes for Heroes, the Freedom Alliance.
	There's a ton of great groups out there, but is everybody getting the help they need?
	No, no, they're not.
	I mean, the number is overwhelming.
	We have been doing this for 10 years, and we don't even have our own home.
	We, through the blessing of dear friends and allies, we use various properties around the country, and we've got a waiting list of guys getting in.
	In fact, what we did, Sean, is we took the five-day program and literally had been praying about this.
	Like, how do we scale what we're doing so that we can bring this 22 plus a day of suicides down to zero?
	And I think we found the answer.
	And earlier this year, I started working with my team on taking our five-day and condensing it to a two-day and engaging our alumni.
	And we have over a thousand alumni now around the country from all the various services that have been deployed in multiple operations and to scale this out there so that we can start to address in their communities because we have these groups all over the United States now to be able to address this problem of 22 plus a day.
	And I mean, this is crazy.
	This is not going away.
	It just keeps ramping because of the overdeployment.
	Do we have enough?
	Is there the information to get the help out there to all these guys?
	I mean, really, the armed services needs to be sending every single guy that served, especially these multiple deployments.
	They've got to be communicating with them and tell them, hey, if you ever need help, this is what you do.
	If you ever need help, they've got to know that that help is out there because if they reach out, they're going to get the help.
	I've met people that have gone through programs and they come back on the other side, different people.
	And they're able to, you know, it's hard to ask people to go to war, go in a war zone, and it triggers, you know, a defense mechanism and an adrenaline rush and an energy that you're not going to experience back in real life.
	You come home and it's like that just doesn't shut off automatically.
	You know, you don't have an on-off switch.
	Some people maybe have better coping mechanisms than others.
	This isn't about weakness.
	It's about their warriors.
	And now you're asking them to, you know, to just shut that side of them off.
	It's a hard thing to do.
	It absolutely is.
	And we've had some of the most remarkable warriors that this nation has ever produced come through our program, Sean.
	And a lot of the guys, they don't want to ask for help, you know, because so much of what they've been asked to do, they are the help, right?
	They don't go in.
	You know, they're the guys that have to do these operations.
	So they don't ask for help.
	And, you know, we still have a stigma out there that they think that that's a weakness.
	And the focus of our program, our program, and one of the reasons it's so successful is that there's a component, not only in the emotional, physiologic side, but there's a spiritual component.
	We're both spiritual and physical.
	And if you don't address one without the other, then you're going to have an incomplete healing.
	And so we address the spiritual component because, you know, just look historically, look biblically, right?
	The progenitor of all warfare is spiritual, and it gets manifested into the kinetic.
	If you don't address the spiritual issues that's assaulting our men and women, then you're not going to get a complete healing.
	You're just going to get anesthetizing.
	You're going to get partial healing, but it's not going to be complete.
	And we have found that by addressing those issues, these folks are getting restored.
	OperationRestoredWarrior.org is your website, OperationRestoredWarrior.org.
	Paul, thank you for being with us.
	I hope people can help your organization out.
	We'll put it up on Hannity.com.
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