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Oct. 2, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show
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Graham: Miscarriage of Justice - 10.2

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, is outraged by the miscarriage of justice and overreaching nature of those on the left, who care very little about anything beyond tarnishing President Trump. Senator Graham joins Sean to discuss the FBI investigation of Brett Kavanaugh and what's next for the Supreme Court and the November elections. The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, as we roll along, glad you're with us from our nation's capital.
It is the Sean Hannity Show, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Lindsay Graham will be joining us coming up in the pro course of the program today.
Byron York is going to join us.
David Limbaugh will check in with us today, so we got a lot of ground to go.
Very, very interesting.
I guess a lot of this is based on your political view.
There is, and I think it's revealing in ways that a poll I have in front of me didn't mean to reveal.
Recent Quinnipiac University poll conducted after last week's testimony by Brett Kavanaugh and Professor Ford.
It shows that 86% of GOP women said he should be confirmed.
That's basically the 90% rating that the president has with all Republicans.
And GOP women are backing him overwhelmingly.
Now, with the Democrats, it's a very different story.
Here's the problem.
We now have at least a party and people supporting a party that believes in guilt by accusation, that believes that or has abandoned any principle of due process, that has abandoned any presumption of innocence.
In other words, they have abandoned every constitutional, foundational, literally process that America has held up until now.
And you might say, well, Hannity, this isn't a legal matter.
Well, the same rules apply It is applicable.
Does that mean just because it's not in court, you just assume that wild allegations about gang rape, gang rape, this systematic drugging of young girls happening almost on a weekly basis, almost every weekend, and that boys lined up in the halls after they drugged the girls, waiting their turn to gang and train rape these girls one at a time.
It doesn't matter now that Julie Swetnick has completely altered her story to well he was near the punch bowl.
I don't know if he spiked the punch bowl with quaaludes, barbiturates, or whatever other drugs that you know cause these girls to be in a condition where them the boys are lined up in the halls gang raping them.
And she was at ten of the parties, but she said it happened frequently almost every weekend.
And now that the story near the well, I saw him in the hall, not exactly lined up like I was describing.
Well, I can't say that he was the rapist.
I can't say that he was the drugger.
Then why are we here?
Or the fact that even the New York Times, they spent a week calling dozens and dozens and dozens of people to try and corroborate the story of Miss Ramirez.
She is the woman that was in the New Yorker piece, who says she has got inebriated quickly at the party, that has huge gaps in her memory and was slurring and I mean massive details.
This is you cannot.
At some point here, we've got to change the slander laws in this country.
That you cannot make accusations like this, and then in each particular case, the New York Times actually reported that when they researched the dozens and dozens of people that they were calling in the case of Miss Ramirez, what they discovered is that Miss Ramirez was calling her former Yale colleagues and asking them if they remember, because she wasn't sure that it was Judge Kavanaugh that quote exposed himself.
And then, of course, we have the case of Professor Ford who we saw last week.
What's happening here?
There is zero corroboration.
She mentioned four people.
Four people identified them.
One was supposed to be an eyewitness to the alleged incident.
the eyewitness backs up the story of a Brett Kavanaugh, not Professor Ford.
And you know, people are trying to say, well, you don't believe her.
You don't.
It's a matter now of simple, what are the witnesses say?
And if the witnesses say that it never happened, they don't recall, they were there, they weren't there, nothing like this happened.
How does this become credible?
Now you've got the you literally have the the what was her name?
Harono, the senator from Maisie Harono's senator from Hawaii was actually.
Now she wants an investigation into the ice throwing incident.
I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
An ice throwing incident in high school or early college among people that were out partying and drinking a you know some beer.
An ice throwing incident.
By the way, does anyone remember Jason?
I'm sure you can pull it up.
And the chum gang and smoking.
Locking away the questions that life seemed insistent on posing.
I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily.
Heavily and tried drugs enthusiastically.
Tried him enthusiastically.
I discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you'd met down at the gym.
Or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl.
I discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate's sparkling new van or in the dorm room with some brother you'd met down at the gym.
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I spent the last two years of high school in a daze.
Don't cry, don't raise your eyes.
I, I, I inhale.
It's only teenage wasteland.
That was uh that was that was the point.
I inhaled.
drank beer heavily.
I'm going out of fire and don't look past my shoulder.
Yeah.
And tried drugs enthusiastically.
The excess is here.
I spent the last two years of high school in the days.
Let's get together for you inhale.
I was telling somebody asked this question.
I said, uh that was the point.
So Display.
I am healed.
Drank beer heavily.
And tried drugs enthusiastically.
Did a little blow.
I spent the last two years of high school in a daze.
Music I have to ask this question.
Remember, Senator, you are under oath.
Did you inhale?
I was telling somebody asked this question.
I said, uh that was the point.
Alright, I'm making a point here because now it's evolved.
Now it's become his temperament.
Now it's become did he tell the truth about all of his drinking.
They weren't that upset about Barack Obama's drinking and smoking pot and little blow and the chum gang and everything else that he did in high school as he described it and drank beer and a lot of it.
So now they want to get well, did he well Judge Kavanaugh was drinking beer?
He admitted it, and sometimes too much like Obama.
You know, all these people, the hypocrisy reeks by these people on the left.
You know, to hire for Diane Feinstein to recommend Deborah Katz, who twice on two occasions said about Paula Jones, it was only 10 or 12 minutes, you know, it wasn't that bad.
That doesn't rise to the occasion of you know a sexual assault in the workplace.
Paula Jones was consistent in her story that Bill Clinton dropped his pants and exposed his penis and asked her to kiss it.
Where's the investigation into him by the FBI?
Or Juanita Broderick in the FBI.
Or more recently, Keith Ellison, because we know, in spite of this sham so-called investigation, I think we need an FBI investigation.
If we're going to be consistent, and none of these Democrats that are now demanding that that Brett Kavanaugh get investigated for everything, none of them, they love the Clintons.
They're not going to say a word about Keith Ellison, the number two at the DNC, who wants to be the AG in Minnesota.
None of them are going to say a thing about it.
And this is why it is so political.
You know, Minnesota police, by the way, finally are investigating domestic abuse allegations against Keith Ellison.
And by the way, in that case, I hear this text messages, doctor's reports, and maybe even a video.
Now I'm going to say this to you.
We, the Republicans to their credit, they have taken all of this seriously.
This is a serious issue, and they have handled it with the proper, with the seriousness it deserves.
There are predators.
There are evil people.
There are rapists.
There are people that will drug people.
All of that.
It's like the worst thing you can say, but you have to...
If Professor Ford mentions four people, even an eyewitness to the actual event that took place, and that person contradicts it.
If the New York Times corroborates that Miss Ramirez was calling to get confirmation from Yale classmates, she wasn't sure that Judge Kavanaugh was the person, maybe you remember that he was the guy that exposed himself.
That's not a memory that is sufficient to make such an allegation.
Admitting you have gaps in your memory from that time.
Or in the case of Julie Swetnick and all the issues surrounding her, how MBC ran this story is beyond any imagination.
We're at a tipping point in this country.
People on the left, Democrats, their media cohorts have no shame.
They have no restraint.
They have no concern for the truth.
They have no concern for the lives of the many people they'll destroy in their pursuit of power.
Because power for them is more important than truth and justice and due process and the presumption of innocence.
We have a party and a media that are cohorts in terms of smearing and slander and besmirchment and bludgeoning, character bludgeoning.
They've used every trick in the book to run out the nomination on Judge Kavanaugh.
They don't care about him.
His up to 16 days ago, his reputation was flawless.
They moved the goalposts.
Now they want to investigate ice throwing incidents.
The FBI has to investigate ice throwing from 35 years ago by the senator from Hawaii wants men to sit down and shut up.
Unbelievable.
We're going to break all this down.
All right, as we roll along from our nation's capital, it's the Sean Hannity show.
Lindsey Graham is coming up today, and Byron York, David Limbaugh, and much more.
You know, if you're a good American and you believe in core values and fundamental principles, we just need to step back today for a minute, and we need to decide what kind of country we want to be here.
You know, because in every case, and I'll go over the details again in the Professor Ford case.
I'll go over the details in the Ramirez allegation, or the disaster of an interview that contradicted what she had said prior, and that's the Julie Swetnick case.
And we have to decide now if, and maybe we just accepted way too much every election season of, you know, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
Oh my gosh, Mitt Romney has binders of women's resumes because he wants to hire them.
He's a misogynist.
I mean, that was the narrative.
Every time you slander, every time you say someone's a racist, Republicans, you like them, well, crosses are gonna burn.
They don't even want to count you in the census if you're African American.
And and of course, it's like my father was killed all over again.
And when you say this and you you come out with ads, Granny is being thrown over the cliff because Republicans only want to increase Medicare spending 7% a year, not 10% a year.
Increase every year, 7%.
For seven years, it gets portrayed as killing grandma.
If Republicans don't go along with every extreme environmental regulation that destroys jobs and businesses and makes America less competitive, that means Republicans, their plan is for dirty air and water.
Barack Obama says those words.
But we have a decision as a country that we've got to make here.
Are we going to reward this systematic slander machine that has been built in this country?
You know, the besearchment, the besmirchment, character assassination, you know, character bludgeoning machine.
You got to watch Judge Kavanaugh last week.
You know the witnesses that Professor Ford mentioned don't corroborate her story.
You know that the New York Times said that Miss Ramirez was calling others, not sure if it was Brett Kavanaugh, and was asking them if they remembered.
And then you saw what happened last night.
We'll go through that when we get back with Julie Swetnick.
And you've got to ask yourself, do you believe in due process?
Do you believe in the presumption of innocence and our constitutional fundamental rights?
Because if you do, you better do something about it five weeks from today, because we're 35 days away from the most important midterm in your lifetime.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
One thing that the presidents never gets credited, I mean, for anything.
We have the lowest unemployment level, record lows in 14 states unemployment since Donald Trump's been president.
We had a record tax cut in this country.
It's resulted in record low unemployment when you break it down demographically for African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, 65-year low for women in the workforce, 60-year-old youth unemployment low record, four million Americans now off of food stamps, four million new jobs have been created.
All these people that said, oh no, he said little rocket man, fire and fury.
Oh no, he's gonna start a nuclear war.
No, the only thing that happened is missiles are not being fired over Japan.
Guam is not being threatened.
The Korean peninsula is not being threatened.
Japan is not being threatened.
China's not being threatened.
He's dismantling now nuclear test sites, getting along apparently famously with the president, and is talking about denuclearization of the entire region.
And everyone upset, well, the president's putting sanctions on Iran.
They're going to be mad at us.
I'm sorry, we're not bowing at the altar of radical Islamic mullahs in Iran that chant death to America, death to Israel.
And that the sanctions now are resulting in a massive, dramatic negative impact on the Iranian economy, which may just ignite and fuel a freedom revolution that perhaps would bring about change for the for the tyranny and oppression for the people of Iran one day.
And the same with China.
Well, the president's starting a trade war.
Well, we have a bad trade deal with China.
How dare this president step up and tell our NATO allies to pay their fair share when we're paying 70 cents of every dollar.
And Angela Merkel, who's not paying her fair share in Germany, is helping make Vladimir rich again and Russia rich again, the hostile regime that that is, and the hostile actor that he is, by giving billions of dollars to Russia for their lifeblood of the German economy and buying their energy from them, why aren't they buying it from us?
Because if they do, it's it it weakens the one person the NATO alliance is supposed to be afraid of.
Or that the president is asking our European allies to step up with their unfair trade deals.
You know, so now we've got a brand new nobody thought it could happen.
If you don't demand and say, okay, we're not taking a one-sided deal anymore.
Well, the president now has gotten new deals with Mexico and Canada.
And we find out that it brings trade peace to North America, just like we now have results nobody expected in North Korea, and we now look at the deal.
Now we're seeing the impact of the deal.
And to avoid tariffs, 75% of car components have to be made right here in the U.S. Well, that's up a pretty dramatic 15%.
30% of vehicles must be made by workers earning at least 16 bucks an hour by 2020.
40% by 2023.
Canada agreed to lift their barriers to our farmers.
Wisconsin dairy farmers for infant formula, skim milk powder, milk protein concentrate.
They'd give U.S. farmers access to about 4% of Canada's $16 billion dairy market, according to the Dairy Farmers of Canada.
U.S. farmers also got more access to Canada's eggs and poultry markets.
Well, maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to those that are producing eggs and poultry that have been shut out of Canada because we had an unfair deal.
U.S. drug companies have 10 years to sell their name brand products in Canada before they go generic.
Well, that's up two years.
That's billions of dollars in many cases.
There's no increased protections on intellectual property.
There are no changes in U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs, and the deal preserves a trade dispute settlement mechanism that Canada fought hard to maintain to protect their lumber industry and other sectors.
Guess what?
A better deal.
Better deals don't happen unless you demand better deals.
Just like record low unemployment doesn't happen by accident, you got to cut taxes and you got to end burdensome regulation.
America can never be energy independent unless you open ANWA, unless you get rid of burdensome regulations on the coal industry and the natural gas industry, and you allow drilling and you allow the building of pipelines, all of which the president has done.
But nobody in the media talks about it because it's Russia, Russia, Russia, stormy, stormy, stormy, comey, come, comey, you know, Michael Cohn, it's it's Paul Manafort.
It's Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman.
This is what the country's been talking about.
35 days, you get to change all of this.
Every bit of it.
Now we have the senator from Hawaii who wants men to shut up.
Now she wants the FBI to investigate an ice throwing incident at a college bar.
You gotta be kidding me.
When he was in, you know, a young guy in Yale.
And that apparently there was a former Yale classmate said he threw ice at a party at somebody.
Ice.
Let me tell you what's going to happen this week.
Mitch McConnell and the Senate leadership, most of which I don't have a lot of respect for, but they have been good on this.
I think they've handled it properly with the seriousness it deserves and also the resolve that an injustice has also occurred here.
We'll see what Senator Snowflake, who's running for president yesterday in Massachusetts, has to do and say about it.
McConnell saying earlier today that he wants a vote this week in the Senate.
Now for that to happen, Jamie Dupree reminds us the majority leader must file cloture by Wednesday.
That's tomorrow.
We'll be here tomorrow in the nation's capital in order to force a final vote by Saturday.
Otherwise, the vote wouldn't officially be this week.
Um for example, if the cloture vote is if you file cloture on Wednesday, the final vote's on Saturday.
If you file it on Thursday, it's on Sunday.
If you file it on Friday, the vote would be next Monday.
If you file cloture on Saturday, it's Tuesday, depending on when the FBI report comes in.
So that's going to be wide open.
And whether or not the three Republican senators go along with endless investigations is ultimately, I guess, going to be up to them.
Lindsey Graham, who's going to join us later, was on Hannity last night, and I thought he had a pretty good idea.
He said, you know what, we can turn this whole election in 35 days into a referendum on Brett Kavanaugh.
What would happen if something really weird did occur and we're one vote short?
Here's what I would tell the president.
I would appeal the verdict of the Senate to the ballot box.
This good man should not be destroyed.
Uh if you legitimize this process by one vote short, we'll be on to the next person.
I'd hate to be uh the next person nominated.
I would feel horrible that we destroyed Kavanaugh.
So what would I do?
I would renominate him, and I would take this case uh to the American people, and I'd ask voters in Indiana and Missouri and North Dakota and other places where Trump won, saying who he would nominate if he got to be president and see if the uh voters want to appeal the verdict of their senator.
So if you're saying if you fall one vote short, you're saying I would appeal the case to the American people.
Okay.
I you know what?
At this point in 35 days, let me tell you what's at stake.
Everything that I've been telling you about, why have I been saying this for six months or longer now?
This is the most important midterm election in our lifetime.
If you like the progress that I just described to you, then it's going to happen.
By the way, Donald Trump just just went up on in red on the Drudge Report.
Trump gained millions from questionable tax strategies, according to the New York Times.
I guess they're getting off.
I guess maybe they think they're losing the vote on Judge Kavanaugh.
So President Trump participated in questionable tax strategies in the 1990s, and allowed him to accrue millions of dollars in additional wealth from his father's real estate empire, according to the New York Times.
Newspaper reported that Trump and his siblings set up a sham corporation to help disguise otherwise taxable income that came from gifts from their parents.
Okay, the IRS has been investigating him, I guess, for most of his adult life.
You know, so big shock there.
But this is what's at stake.
Do you want do you want to go back?
Because this is the endless investigation.
And do you want to reward the party of slander and bludgeoning?
Because that's the Democratic Party.
You know, think of this.
Five weeks from tonight, you're going to tune in to the news.
Midterms, big election night, big coverage, all the networks.
You have the opportunity to shock the world again.
If you remember, they never thought Donald Trump could win.
They never believed it could happen.
Now imagine you there are two things that are going to happen on election night five weeks from now.
One is you're going to turn on your television set, and you're going to see a bunch of giddy liberals happy to announce that Nancy Pelosi will be the next speaker of the House, and maybe even Senator Chucky Schumer, the liberal from New York, is going to be the Senate majority leader.
Or you can tune in and watch the results come in, and they have to announce that the U.S. House of Representatives remains in control of the Republicans.
And that the Republicans have picked up two, three, four, five seats in the United States Senate, which would render, by the way, Collins, Murkowski, and Snowflake irrelevant.
And that even if They stopped Brett Kavanaugh, he could be renominated.
And next time he would get a vote up or down, and he would become a Supreme Court justice in spite of the slander and the smears and everything else.
And all of those anchors that have been for two years trying to destroy the president as an extension of all things Democrat, you could see them spiral into their state of shock and denial and depression again.
That's not going to stop them.
They're just going to ratchet up the next day.
Donald Trump should be arrested for tax fraud.
Donald Trump, Stormy Daniels, Russia.
Let's go back to Russia.
Let's investigate someone else's taxes from 30 years ago or their loan applications from 30 years ago.
So, You have the power and the ability to do all of that.
Five weeks from tonight, you get to decide what kind of TV you get to watch.
Want to see the media crumble?
You want to see them sad?
Want to see a media freak out?
Want to see CNN anchors, you know, talking about white lashes again and all the other insane commentary that happened.
Let me tell you the races, the states.
You all know what district you live in, because this is a smart audience.
We have a map up on Hannity.com that we're we've been putting up and we'll update it this week.
We're going to put up the 70 big races.
We're going to let you look at them.
And if it happens to be your congressional district, you might want to plan on voting five weeks from today.
If you live in Florida, Rick Scott has been a great governor, and he's not responsible for the red tide.
And of course, Ron DeSantis would make a great governor there.
If you live in Indiana, Joe Donnelly, you know what?
We can do better than Joe Donnelly supporting Chuck Schumer.
If you live in North Dakota, Heidi Heikamp, we can do better than Heidi Heikamp supporting everything Schumer.
If you live in West Virginia, you can do better than Joe Manchin.
Mostly supporting everything Schumer.
If you live in Missouri, you can do better than Claire McCaskill, supporting pretty much everything Schumer.
And I know I'm missing.
And you know, Martha McSally out in a total rock star in Arizona.
Served her country.
I guess her opponent was out there protesting.
You know, part of the resistance.
And the same thing, Dean Heller in Nevada, another important race.
You know, all these races matter.
It's in your hands.
If you want the success, because this is what you'll get with the Democrats.
The party of smear and slander will be rewarded.
They will take their crumbs back.
They will have endless, non-stop, never-ending Trump investigations.
They will try to impeach him.
They will, you know, try and eliminate ice and have open borders.
They will keep their Obamacare.
That's their agenda.
How's that worked out for you?
Because we had it for eight years.
I just hope your memories aren't that short.
All right, a lot to get to today as we continue from the swamp, our nation's capital, Washington, D.C. A lot to get to.
Uh, David Limbaugh, Greg Jarrett, they're gonna break down all of these accusations now that the Democrats want to look into.
Uh, we have Mitch McConnell saying they are moving forward in the Senate.
Lindsey Graham was gonna join us.
He's suggesting that, okay, they fall one vote short.
We'll make the election in 35 days, five weeks from today about Brett Kavanaugh on the president could renominate him at that point.
That's an interesting theory.
We'll ask him more about that.
And then we'll be checking in with Byron York about the moving of the goalpost.
Now they want to investigate ice throwing incidents in high school and college because that might be disqualifying and nothing else has worked, so we'll try that.
All right, hour two, Sean Hannity show from our nation's capital, right down our toll-free telephone number if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
Um, you know, so much is going on here in Washington.
It looks like Mitch McConnell with his statement today, is saying that the FBI will be finished their report.
Apparently, it may even be by the time we get on Hannity tonight.
Apparently, they've made a lot of progress.
They've talked to Miss Ramirez.
They talked to all of the witnesses as it relates to Professor Ford.
We saw Julie Swetnick in that disaster of an interview on MBC.
That's the one who has Michael Avanani, you know, the attorney of the year as uh representing her.
And uh now she is totally backtracked and changed her story specifically.
Well, I didn't see him, you know, put drugs in the in the punch, but I saw them next to the punch bowl.
Well, I didn't I don't know if they were online, but they were in to rape girls that are drugged, but he was they were in the hall.
I mean, she took she her allegation is that at least for ten of the parties she went to, but she said it was happening on a regular basis, and everybody knew it.
Everybody knew that routinely in these years, young girls were being drugged and boys were lined up in the halls waiting their turn to gang rape these girls that they had purposefully drugged, and that Kavanaugh was a part of this.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Lindsay Graham is coming up today.
Uh, we welcome back to the uh program, David Limbaugh.
Um, David has had a profound impact.
I'm right writing a column for Fox News.com and Hannity.com about me.
I am not the most religious person in the world, but I am a believer in every way, shape, manner, and form that I'm a I'm a Christian, I want to be a better Christian.
And David has spent a good part of his adult life studying the Bible and get and teaching uh Christianity to kids and in church and writing all these best selling books, and he has come out with, and he's a number one national best seller.
Uh David Limbaugh's uh new book is called Jesus Is Risen, Paul and the Early Church.
Every time he writes these books, I read them and I realize how much I don't know and how much I'm interested in knowing more.
Um, and uh David joins us as well as Greg Jarrett, his book, The Russian hoax, has been obviously number one for a while now on the New York Times bestseller list.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Thank you, Sean.
Hey, Greg.
Good to be here.
Congratulations, David, on your wonderful new book.
David is truly one of the best authors I've ever read.
He's one of the best authors and writers and columnists, but it's it's also moved me as I have read these books since I realizing I need to be a better person.
That's what I read them, and I'm like, all right, I'm a piece of crap, and I'm one of the Christians that need the saving part for sure.
So do we all.
And Greg, congratulations on your uh unbelievable success with your book.
Really outstanding.
Thank you.
All right.
Let me let's get into this issue.
Now, I asked Lindsay Graham last night, and I'll start with you, David.
I said, Well, what if you fall one vote short?
Because now the the Democrats and the Senator from Hawaii that wants men to shut up is now asking that they investigate a nice throwing incident from 1984.
And I'm thinking, if this is what it now has come down to, because the three big cases they want investigated, in every case, there's no corroboration at all.
None.
And and multiple changes in stories, at least two of the three cases.
And yet this this goes on, and the slander and the I mean, I just described the story about what Julie Swetnick was claiming, and now she is backtracked.
I don't even know why MBC would ever run an interview like this, but they did run it, even saying that, well, she gave us four names to investigate.
One's dead, and the other one has no idea who she is, and the other two people never got back to us.
So they can't corroborate any of this, but they say they can, and the lawyer keeps saying they can, but she backtracks on a story.
At what point does a man, you know, how does Brett Kavanaugh to quote, you know, infamously, Ray Donovan once saying, How do I get my good name back, or famously saying, you know, how does this go off as civil discourse in this country?
Okay.
You know, I find it particularly appalling that some of these never Trumpers and uh these squishes and then the entire Democratic leftist apparatus have the audacity to make all these charges and slander and and destroy uh Kavanaugh and his family,
and have the audacity to suggest that he shouldn't stand up and defend himself, and that his doing so with passion indicates that he doesn't have the requisite judicial temperament to serve on the United States Supreme Court.
They compare his righteous indignation, his his two-hour uh rant, which was totally justifiable and necessary in fact to preserve his position, uh, to they compare that to the 12 years on the bench when he had exemplary judicial temperament, which is universally acclaimed.
I find their uh I find their analysis absurd on its face and shouldn't even be taken seriously.
This guy has grand judicial temperament.
I would pay to have that kind of temperament.
How is somebody supposed how is somebody supposed to act if they're accused of being a serial gang rapist who drugs young who drugged young girls as a matter of course on weekends in high school?
How I mean, what is the proper response?
He's supposed to go there and say, look, guys, I just didn't do that.
Yeah.
People who are falsely accused react exactly the way that Brett Kavanaugh did.
Uh, When you're egregiously wronged, you're angry, and he expressed the appropriate uh righteous indignation of an innocent man.
Uh but the most important thing he said was I don't question that uh Christine Blazey Ford was at some time and at some place sexually assaulted.
It just wasn't me.
So he's he's not calling her a liar.
What he is essentially doing is saying she is mistaken for a variety of reasons.
She may have conflated two different uh individuals.
Uh she may be projecting based on you know some uh for some reason that we don't understand.
Uh but this is a man who sounded like he was being falsely accused, and to condemn him for being angry is to ignore human emotion.
Well, the thing Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, and contrast that with his response on the Martha McCollum interview, and I was watching that very concerned.
I thought he was uh flat affect, he was uh very much too restrained.
And I said to myself, uh and robotic, if he doesn't quit holding himself back, nobody's gonna believe him, and I'm telling you, nobody would have believed him if he had done that same thing.
But he finally somebody uh coached him by coaching, somebody told him quit holding back, or he told himself, and he was masterful because no matter how many people said, boy, she was believable, she was initially believable, she was credible.
They they believed it uh m in in multiples when he testified, and he totally vindicated himself.
It was a massive performance because I think it was authentic.
Well, what a where does it go from here?
Because um I have no I mean, Jeff Snowflake is Jeff Snowflake.
Who knows what he's running for president now and and headed up to Massachusetts and New Hampshire.
I guess he thinks he's gonna beat Donald Trump.
I I don't think this guy could get 15 votes at this point.
Then you have what Susan Collins, we have no idea where she's coming down on this, although she rightly said what Diane Feinstein did is unfair to everybody in the process.
And then you've got Lisa Murkowski.
I mean, she was uh a no vote when she was needed on numerous occasions.
You know, uh to me, there's only one answer, and the answer is 35 days from now, and that's when the American people have an opportunity to add more senators from West Virginia, from Indiana, from North Dakota, from Missouri, from Florida, uh from Arizona and Nevada.
And but until then, you know, I don't know what happens.
I have no faith that anybody really gives a rip that this man's life has been bludgeoned, his family has been bludgeoned, and there's there's no corroborating evidence for any of it.
Well, I think we have to wait to see what happens uh in the FBI's report.
If the investigation finds No plausible evidence against Kavanaugh.
This will not only help to restore his reputation and solidify the integrity of the United States Supreme Court at large, but it will also give a valid reason to senators like Murkowski and Collins and Jeff Flake, and somebody like Joe Manchin and perhaps a couple of others who are Democrats to vote in favor of Kavanaugh.
But I find it amazing to me that we're holding Kavanaugh to an unfair uh standard of his behavior in high school and college as alleged.
I doubt very many Democrats in the United States Senate could meet that standard.
And some of these allegations, Julie Sweatnik, are preposterous on their face.
As you point out, she's now backtracking NBC issued a statement saying that uh we can't confirm any of what she's saying, and in fact, she's deviated now from her sworn affidavit in her most recent interview with NBC News.
So, you know, that uh claims.
What did you think of this interview?
Which I'm again, the statement only had come out a week prior, and multiple, multi I mean, she backtracked dramatically on very key points.
And when you think of the seriousness of drugging girls and gang raping them, and how she well, he was near the punch bowl, and well, he wasn't lined up, but I saw him in the hall, and nobody else.
I mean, she was saying this was done as a matter of course on weekends at the time.
Are we to believe that no girl that was raped, no boy that saw the drugging of girls ever told the teacher, a parent, a law enforcement officer, nobody told them.
I find that.
Go ahead, Greg, answer that.
You're still on.
No, no, it's uh go ahead, David.
Well, I I I find that again absurd on its face, as you say, just as I do uh the the Sweatnik, well, the other Sweatnik allegations, it just doesn't hold true.
And I think following up on what you said, I mean it doesn't comport with human nature.
It just wouldn't have happened that way.
If it was truly rape, there would have been hell to pay after it won, and it for sure after multiple times.
It just doesn't hold true.
But in response to something you said earlier, uh what we do taking this into the midterms.
If the FBI finds something really damning, which I truly doubt, uh nothing will change the fact that the Democrats have acted in bad faith either way.
And the people know that what they've done is way excessive uh and pernicious, and I think that the public is is outraged, and I think they're gonna punish the Democrats in the midterms.
What I do think, though, is we'd be much better off with a victory and the Democrats having acted the way they have than a loss and them having acted the way they have, because what Trump stands for is fighting and ultimately winning.
And we we always blame our losses in the Senate on these these uh moderates and these squishes and these traitors.
I don't want to say traitor, literally traitor, but these people who don't have any guts that are are actually liberals in Republican clothing.
And it's true, but we still have to win.
So we we can't give up this fight.
We gotta take it to them, and we gotta win this fight and blame them anyway in the midterm.
One quick thing, I mean, you do have that amazing talent because I look at myself as a guy I have not spent my life studying the Bible.
Um I read it now more than I ever have, and you you have made this a part of your life study.
Yes, I just when I uh I really wasn't a believer when I was uh uh young adult and I think.
No, you were an incorrigible jerk like me.
Yeah, like Brett Kavanaugh.
Sorry, no, like no, no, like Barack Obama, who was part of the chum gang smoking pot and weed and drinking in excess, yeah.
There you go.
And and so I just I just was always a seeker, and I kept looking for answers and and and finally I I found the answers that that uh I thought were intellectual obstacles, and I don't really think they were ultimately, but there are intellectual answers, reasonable answers, and we can give reasonable answers to why we believe, and we're encouraged by uh the Bible.
Peter, in fact, tells us that always be prepared to give the reasons that you believe.
And there are rational reasons to believe, and faith is beyond reason, of course, but it's consistent with reason.
So I wanted to share the game.
I'll make this quick quick.
I I got on fire for the Bible and theology.
So I've been reading it pretty heavy on and off for 20 years, and I have a passion to share what I've learned and help people accelerate their learning curve, reduce their uh intimidation about scripture so that they'll be inspired to read it.
So these books, these Christian themed books I write are encouraged to are designed to encourage people to get into the Bible themselves.
Well, it's work for me, although I have a long way to go, obviously.
Anybody that knows me knows that.
And by the way, so does Greg Garrett.
I'm just saying, Greg.
Uh you're right on target.
Uh Jesus is risen, Paul in the early church on Hannity.com, Amazon.com.
We got Lindsay Graham coming up straight ahead.
Oh, Sean.
In that statement, Sweatnik said she became aware of efforts by Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge to spike punch at parties.
In our interview, she said she saw them near the punch, but did not specifically say she saw either man spike it.
Did you see Brett Kavanaugh, you know, spiking the punch, putting it on the case?
I saw I saw him given red solo cups to quite a few girls during that time frame.
I saw him around the punch, I won't say bowls or the punch containers.
I don't know what he did, but I saw him buy them.
Are there friends who remember these parties too and remember you?
Oh, I think everybody in the county remembers those parties.
Because we have we haven't heard from those friends, so I'm asking, you know, are there people alive today?
Yes, I have to those parties with that.
Yes, there are people that know about those parties.
This morning, Sweatnik provided four names of friends she says went to the parties with her.
One of them said he does not recall a Julie Sweatnick.
Another of the friends she named is deceased.
We've reached out to the other two and haven't heard back.
All right, 25 now till the uh top of the hour.
There's NBC News going forward with nothing.
All this was absolute how does this pass for a news story when on top of everything, they even admit there's massive inconsistencies from the statement she released just a week ago.
You would think she can stay consistent in a week, and the people that she says would corroborate.
Remember, she's charging here that there was a a systemic party culture where almost every weekend that women, girls, young girls were being drugged with quaudes and and inebriated and forced to be inebriated,
and young boys would then line up outside the room, waiting to gang rape women and girls, and that this happened 36 years ago, and nobody ever, ever, ever told a parent, told a teacher, told law enforcement, and she gives the names, just like in the case of Professor Ford of individuals that would quote corroborate this story, and it's not corroborated, just the opposite.
Well, this guy's dead, and on top of that, then we've got oh, this one doesn't even know who you are.
How does this how do you where is the news standard in any capacity here to put this on the air?
Byron York is uh joining us.
He's been writing a lot of columns about this, not the least of which is how high the bar has risen in the goalposts.
We've come a long way from oh, it's going to be very limited in terms of the FBI investigation, it's only going to be maximum a week, and they'll get the job done, and we'll move forward with a vote.
Now you see that uh Camille Harris, she's now coming out with another allegation just today.
Byron.
Hey, Sean.
Listen, on this on this NBC thing, I think everybody's got to be in two minds about it.
Uh one, on the basis of the lack of evidence in all of this.
Uh, there's no way the story should ever have been reported publicly.
Just shouldn't have been.
But it was given in part um uh due to the news networks um thing about Michael Avanetti, her lawyer.
So once it was all out there, the fact that NBC has reported this is probably a good corrective.
Uh at least we can see what I think what it was apparent to a lot of people, uh, that there just was nothing to this story.
Um and when she offered um witnesses who could corroborate the story as you just played, uh one had no idea who she was, another was deceased, and two others didn't answer the phone.
So um, since the story is already out there and has already done its damage, it is a good thing to knock it down.
All right, so let's go through all three cases that the the Democrats now want to expand the investigation.
They they never wanted a limited investigation.
They wanted a full-fledged investigation, this now being the seventh.
From every indication and all I'm reading, though, that the FBI is moving expeditiously, and it seems like they're very close to probably completing their work.
But if we start with Professor Ford, Professor Ford claimed that these four people were at the party.
Nobody remembers any such party that she describes, and the one person that was supposedly was an eyewitness to the alleged abuse in her case was Mark Judge, and he said absolutely it didn't happen.
And then if you look at the if you look at the Ramirez case, this was in the New Yorker.
Well, the New York Times couldn't print the story, and and they actually brought up the fact that after calling dozens of dozens of people to corroborate, they discovered that Mr. Ramirez was calling former Yale classmates and asking them if they remembered and that she wasn't sure sure herself if it was Brett Kavanaugh.
So that should go away.
And this one I think is the worst of all, and I I guess there's no standards at MBC News anymore.
If they're going to put on somebody that they can't corroborate her story who's who's changing her story almost, you know, by the hour seemingly.
Well, even the Democrats have um declined to fully embrace the Julie Swetnick story.
But on the original story, the Christine Ford uh story, I think what we're going to find, and what we're already finding, um, is that the people who gave statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee, like PJ Smith and Mark Judge, amazingly enough, they're telling the FBI the same thing they told the Judiciary Committee, which is they have no memory at all to support this.
Now, I think it's probably a good thing to get additional recollections.
Uh, you know, remember uh Senator White House and other Democrats made a big deal of this party entry in the Brett Kavanaugh calendar of July first, nineteen eighty-two, thirty-six years and three months ago, by the way.
Um, and it listed who was at the party.
And it didn't match up with uh with Christine Ford's account of this, but they thought this was a big deal.
So let's talk to those people.
And I think my feeling is that's I think there are three additional people, Tom Burney and Squee, uh, who had not been interviewed earlier.
Uh and I think you're going to find three more people who don't know anything about uh Christine Ford's uh allegation.
So uh listen, I I don't think this FBI thing, FBI investigation is a bad thing.
I think that they will find out um that there is no evidence to support this.
And so they did find out actual real evidence to support it, then I've changed my mind.
But I don't think it's there.
Well, if you go through uh I thought it was really devastating, the report by Rachel Mitchell.
Um now she's the independent pr prosecutor, she prosecutes sex crimes, and she was hired by the Senate, and I think rightly by the Republicans that they wanted to be extremely courteous and thoughtful and and take this very seriously and not make it political.
So they brought in an independent prosecutor to to question Professor Ford, who showed incredible respect to her, but she pointed out a he said she said case is incredibly difficult to prove itself, and then she goes on this case is even weaker than that.
And then she Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event.
Those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them, and for reasons discussed below, I don't think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the committee, and then she went on to list all the issues.
There was no consistent account, and she gives example after example of when the alleged assault happened.
I mean, the dates keep shifting back and forth dramatically, actually.
The failure to previously identify Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant, Uh inconsistent descriptions of the alleged assault, a failure to remember key details, who invited Ford to the party.
How did she get to the party?
Where did the party even take place?
How did she get home from the party?
Um and and it goes on from there, but every case is similar, in as much as there's no corroboration.
There are big holes in the stories.
And at some point, when do we ask, is this becoming a witch hunt?
We know that Deborah Katz has her friend sending out emails, and she's a woman that went after Paula Jones and supported Al Franken, so she's not exactly consistent on the issue of sexual misconduct.
And they're sending out letters.
Dear so-and-so, do you know anything?
Please call us.
No, those letters went out.
I know.
Please, some corroboration.
You know, on the Ramirez case.
You mentioned the New York Times.
They said they called, they talked to dozens of people.
Now, to me, that says 24 people or more.
I mean, that is a lot of uh of people to look at.
And on the Rachel Mitchell thing, you know, she there was a lot of criticism of her, and um I think that that the way she approached it was not uh a really good way given the limitations of a Senate hearing where they always she had to be interrupted every five minutes.
But she did elicit a lot of information.
I was looking today at her questioning of uh Ford about her therapist and the therapist notes and the way we even know about this, because remember, Ford says it took place in the summer of nineteen eighty-two.
She did not tell anybody for ten, twenty, thirty, thirty-six years to two thousand twelve.
And she checks her, she says that she's in marriage therapy with her husband, and she tells the therapist about that, and she later also tells an individual therapist about that as well.
And she checks the therapist's notes, and the therapist notes do not mention the name Brett Kavanaugh.
And she says, as a matter of fact, it's only her husband remembering that at the session she brought up Brett Kavanaugh's name that is the only evidence that it took place in the therapy sessions.
And by the way, you would think such therapy sessions and the notes thereof would be confidential, but of course she gave them to the Washington Post, so they're probably no longer uh confidential.
So even even her account of how she finally mentioned this to someone after 36 years raises a lot of questions.
It really is amazing.
Now we have Judiciary Committee Democrats.
Now they're wanting to investigate the quote, ice throwing incident in college that he and no, this is what it's now.
You're telling the truth.
It's that's what they say.
Well, no, we have the the Democratic ho uh Hawaii Senator, the one that said to men to just shut up and sit down.
Yeah, Harono is now saying that she wants an investigation into the ice throwing incident um at a ball game.
And on top of that, now they're questioning the veracity about was he truthful about his drinking.
He said he liked beer.
He liked to drink beer then, he likes to drink beer now.
He said, Yeah, there were plenty of times, like a lot of college and high school kids, I drank too much beer.
But they're saying, well, he must have blacked out in this event.
Um nobody would know that but Brett Kavanaugh.
Nobody would know unless he said to somebody, I blacked out.
Correct.
So this has become a fishing expedition.
This is now a destroy Kavanaugh expedition.
They don't care about anything except destroying him.
So here's the politics question.
All right, go ahead.
Where does it well you noticed that things have changed from an emphasis on the sex misconduct allegation to was he truthful about his drinking?
And I think that's a reflection of the fact that there really isn't any evidence to support the sex uh allegations, and now they're talking about whether he told the truth about drinking, although he mentioned many times in his testimony that he did um in fact drink.
Today, Vox published an article about his testimony about his drinking that never quoted a single word of his testimony about his drinking.
Trick is mischaracterize what he said and then knock it down.
All right, I gotta let it go there.
Thank you so much, Byron York uh with us.
Thank you, Sean.
Washington Examiner, 800 941 Sean is our toll free telephone number as we continue from Washington, D.C., we'll get the very latest from Senator Lindsey Graham, who's been in the forefront of uh literally pointing out the madness that this has now evolved into.
And as we hit our busy phones, Arlene is in Tampa, Florida.
Arlene, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Welcome to the swamp, known as our nation's capital.
How are you?
I'm doing great, thank you.
What's going on?
Uh, I'm just curious about uh everybody, including our side, uh, calling um Dr. Ford uh credible.
She might be a very sympathetic, pitiful, you know, per um victim here, or whatever you want to call her, but she's sympathetic, but she's not credible.
And that goes to by by the expert opinion of a prosecutor, a specialist in this field.
Prosecutor Mitchell says that this wouldn't even meet the minimum requirements to get a warrant, let alone presented in court.
Listen, I don't really have anything.
I I think this is such a serious topic.
I I have I literally have nothing at all bad to say about Professor Ford.
I don't like that Diane Feinstein hooked her up with a radical left-wing attorney who's known for going after Paula Jones.
Well, it was only 10 or 12 minutes.
Um, that's Bill Clinton, then attorney general of Arkansas exposing his penis and saying kiss it.
Uh that 10 or 12 minutes, she says, doesn't meet the definition of sexual harassment in the workplace.
So you've got a political operative all arranged by the Democrats.
They perfectly the purposefully hid this from the Republicans, and as she's now been heard, but it doesn't, the story's not corroborated by the very people she said would corroborate the story, including a a alleged eyewitness to the alleged incident.
That's problematic for her.
At that point, it becomes he said, he said, she said, and there's no evidence.
Um, and that's why the Senate should move forward at this point.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back, we'll continue.
Lindsey Graham, who's been in the forefront of all of this, will join us next.
Are you guys ready to uh maybe rip up some of the rules that have, as Rachel said, limited Democrats?
Yes, Nicole, and I know we're ready for the fabric of our of our democracy.
Democrats should dig in hard here and do everything they conceivably can do uh to block this nomination, any nomination for going forward.
Our Republican colleagues in the Senate should follow the rule they set in 2016, not to consider a Supreme Court justice in an election year.
It's time for Democrats to throw down.
And what I mean by that is that we've been playing by the rule book, and uh uh Donald Trump and Republicans have been playing by street rules.
We need to play by street rules.
Don't allow a vote in this, don't have a hearing, don't have a meeting, don't let anything go forward.
Don't play ball with this decision.
I am blown away.
Before I saw this stuff, I'm like, oh, come on, what could be in this guy's yearbook?
Like a little nonsense.
This is sick stuff.
Right.
The devil's triangle in your yearbook forever and ever.
These people in Congress right now in that Senate Judiciary Committee, these white men, old, by the way, are not protecting women.
They're protecting a man who is probably guilty.
What you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020.
You've said that, not me.
You've got nothing to apologize for.
When you see Sodomir and Cake and tell them that Lindsay said hello, because I voted for them.
I would never do to them what you've done to this guy.
This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics.
I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through.
Boy, y'all want power.
God, I hope you never get it.
I hope the American people can see through this sham that you knew about it and you held it.
You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford.
None.
She's as much of a victim as you are.
God, I hate to say it because these have been my friends.
But let me tell you when it comes to this.
You're looking for a fair process.
You came to the wrong town at the wrong time, my friend.
To my Republican colleagues, if you vote no, you're legitimizing the most despicable thing I have seen in my time in politics.
I mean, that viral moment of Lindsey Graham literally just shook the entire hearing as it relates to Judge Kavanaugh and Senator Graham of uh South Carolina joins us right now.
He's on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Uh Senator, good to talk to you.
Thank you for joining us.
There's a lot going on.
Mitch McConnell just earlier said that the FBI report will be finished, and we will have a vote on Kavanaugh.
And uh I assume it's gonna happen at some point this week.
Do we have any any timetable idea?
Uh don't know yet, but uh I think that's correct.
Uh so here was the agreement uh with our colleagues, and Chris Coons was never part of this agreement.
He's a Democrat from Delaware.
I like Chris, but he was never part of this agreement.
What compromise has been reached with Chris Coons?
He is voting no.
He's asking for the investigation to continue around whether or not he's been honest about his drinking habits.
So Chris Coons is a non-factor here.
Lisa Markowski, Susan Collins, and Jeff Flake expressed a desire for the FBI to talk to the witnesses around the Ford allegation and Miss Ramirez, and to follow any credible lead, any credible lead within a week.
I think the FBI is about finished.
Everybody can look at that report for themselves and see if it's changed anything.
I hope we don't move the goalpost.
Jeff voted yes in committee with the understanding that he wanted to see what the FBI found about these accusations, and hopefully we can get this done this week.
All right, let's talk about this agreement because it was supposed to be limited in its scope, and now it is expanded out further.
We now see the uh your your colleague on the Senate Judiciary Committee, the great senator from the state of Hawaii, who wants men by the way, to sit down and shut up, uh which was a pretty outrageous statement.
But anyway, uh Senator Harono now is saying she wants an F FBI investigation into the quote ice throwing report.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's where we are.
So uh my dad owned the bar.
And so uh throwing ice is like a good day in a bar.
So uh the bottom line is that's all a bunch of BS, and uh, she's not part of the agreement.
She voted she's the one that said the goal was to delay uh the hearing long enough to get into the midterms and and uh have a Democrat replace uh Justice Kennedy in 2020.
She said that not one media outlet said ask her what did you mean.
But the agreement I just outlined it was uh the three witnesses that Dr. Ford named, Miss Ramirez, and if there are any uh credible leads within that world, uh the FBI will follow them, and that's it, and we're gonna vote this week.
Okay, let's talk a little bit about you're on the program last night on on Hannity, and I thought you dropped a huge bombshell.
And I was asking you, look, I have no idea how Jeff Flake's gonna end up voting in this.
I have no idea what Lisa Murkowski is gonna do.
I have no idea what Susan Collins is gonna do.
Yeah.
Uh they're your colleagues.
Maybe you have some more insight than I have, but to me, they're the ones that met privately with Joe Manchin, and they decided on this course now that it's an FBI investigation, but what was supposed to be limited in scope is now expanded out into other allegations.
But if you fall one vote short, you came up with a pretty interesting and thoughtful idea that I kind of like.
Well, uh, I think we've got the votes and then some, but here's the question.
Does the Republican Party abandon Brett Kavanaugh?
Do we legitimize the way he was treated?
If the Senate is at 49, what I would like to see happen is to appeal the verdict of the Senate in the November election and take it to some of these states and see if the people in those states agree with their senator about Brett Kavanaugh.
The swamp would abandon Kavanaugh.
The traditional way of doing business is if he fell one vote short just to pull the plug.
He's never quit.
I don't want to quit on him, so I think Trump might be different.
I think Trump would say, listen, this man's been abused.
I'm not giving up on him.
Let's have an election to see if the vote in the Senate really represented the Trump states uh where Democrats uh reign.
Well, I mean, this is the thing.
I mean, we have people like Joe Donnelly, he's uh he's a no, he said already.
Claire McCaskill's a no already.
As a matter of fact, most Democrats were no, no matter who Donald Trump had.
That's right.
They voted against Gorsak.
Yeah.
All right.
So now what's going to happen to Bill Nelson in Florida and Joe Manchin and Heidi Heikamp and Joe Donnelly and Well, that's a good question.
Martha McSally is a great candidate for the Republicans in Arizona, uh who served her country with honor and distinction.
I hope she wins.
Um we certainly could could use a win out in in Nevada.
Uh do you think this impacts the race?
And do you th you actually think you're going to get the votes?
And why do you think you'd get the votes?
Well, number one, I think we're going to get the votes because Jeff voted in committee.
Yes.
I don't believe the FBI is going to find anything uh relevant to this limited investigation that would show that Dr. Ford's claims are more credible and that there's anything new about Brett Kavanaugh in terms of the uh investigation.
I would hope he would stay consistent with his vote.
I think the other two, Collins and Murkowski are friends.
They're wanting the FBI to check the committee's homework.
I get that.
That'll be done here shortly.
But you're asking me a hypothetical.
I can't imagine how we would explain to the Republican Party that we gave up on Brett Kavanaugh because we're one vote short.
When a lot of the states that led to that vote being short, Trump won.
I do not believe North Dakota wants uh Heidi Hidkamp to vote no.
I think I I so this is why you have an election.
Appeal the verdict of the Senate if we have to to the people of of the country in November.
Let me ask if you'd spoken to these red state Trump state Democrats that are up for reelection.
Have you talked to any of them?
I'm doing it right now.
Uh so you mean you you're communicating through Hannity?
I'm not sure if they're all Hannity listeners and viewers, though, to be honest.
I doubt if they're listening, but I think we're fine.
But here's the dilemma that you th that this process has put us in.
This is about the future of the judiciary.
The states couldn't be higher.
It's about the reputation of one of the finest men I know.
It's about who would come forward after this debacle.
It's about setting the tone and a standard that will destroy the judiciary and eat the Senate alive.
So I know President Trump pretty well.
I think we've got the votes in then some, but I think he's a different kind of politician.
That he wouldn't let the system get off the hook.
That if we had to as a last resort, we're one vote short, let's say hypothetically, we would take this issue to the ballot box in about thirty-something days.
35.
We can find that extra vote.
That way we would have a good nominee, have a life salvaged, have a process saved, and the people finally get to speak up here.
I think we're fine, but you asked me a question, and I thought about this yesterday.
I said, if Brett Kavanaugh is on the ballot in some of these states, I think it changes the election.
You see in North Dakota, there's a poll out today.
The number one issue in North Dakota is uh Brett Kavanaugh's nomination.
It's far ahead of anything else.
Sixty to twenty-eight, the people in North North Dakota support Brett Kavanaugh.
Well, it's fascinating to me that the Democratic leadership is showing no support or comprehension or understanding of what their colleagues from states that are not New York or California have to go through in terms of re-election.
But the reality is uh I would even argue that if they do vote for Kavanaugh, it's only an election year conversion, and they're only doing it because if they don't, the people in their state will throw them out, but they'll probably go right back to to being a party-line vote with Schumer at the end of the day.
Well, you know, I'm I'm not a psychologist or political scientist.
I don't care if it's like, you know, I'm a Baptist, I don't care how you find Jesus as long as you do.
You know, if you can figure out that Brett Kavanaugh is highly qualified and these accusations have crumbled, uh, good for you.
Now, here's the point.
This has become the most despicable thing I've seen in Washington, and that's saying a lot.
It will change the the face of the judiciary forever if we condone it.
So it's it's not a complicated issue for me.
If we fall a vote short, uh let's take this to the ballot box and see what happens.
Let me ask if about this whole process.
Now we've gone through and and I do think the Republicans, and you know I'm pr a pretty honest broker.
I'm pretty critical of Republicans when they're wrong.
I do think that they they have handled this with the seriousness the charge deserves.
I think the hearing Yes.
No, I think they handled it properly because these are serious allegations.
But she identified and and look, I won't go through the in the entire we don't need to retry this case.
I made up mine, you made up your mind.
There are five accusations that have are are are not verified or just made up, not true, outrageous.
So it's not about Kavanaugh.
But the problem is this is the environment we live in, Senator, and I warn this audience on radio and TV every two and four years.
If you're a Republican or a conservative and you're running for office, you're gonna be called a racist, a sexist.
That's the point.
A misogynist, a homophobe, xenophobe, Islamophobe.
You're gonna be accused of wanting dirty air and water.
You're gonna be accused of wanting to kill children, and it's gonna be a look alike of you throwing a grandma over a cliff.
It is as predictable as the day is long, and now with Supreme Court nominees, this slander has been taken to a whole new level.
Didn't you have an ice throwing incident when you were nine?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, adding ice to throwing granny over the cliff is the new standard.
So it's gotten ridiculous.
It started as a brush fire.
Again, back to Dr. Ford, she's been betrayed by the other side as much as anything else.
Uh we are where we are, but I think he's gonna get through because he deserves to get through.
I appreciate President Trump nominating.
Sean, this is the one time when the country club Republican, the Trump Republican, the Tea Party Republican, the Libertarian, all of us are together on this because it goes to the core of uh, you know, fairness.
All of us are together.
We're behind Kavanaugh, we're behind Trump, and I don't think anybody could have done this but the Democrats.
We couldn't do it for ourselves.
So they've done this in such a way as to unite the Republican Party in a fashion I've never seen.
You mentioned earlier that in fact that they're not going to be good people that ever want to say yes to positions like this.
I wouldn't say yes.
Who wants to live through this?
Well, I think the the country has to ask the question.
Here's a there's a report out today or poll out today, that if the FBI supplemental background check doesn't change things, sixty percent of the people believe that Judge Kavanaugh should be on the bench.
So if if if that doesn't, you know, all I can say is that the stakes are high.
Who would follow Kavanaugh after this?
They will destroy everything we stand for as Republicans if we legitimize this.
It only happens to us.
Why is it always just us?
This is a time to fight back, stand behind Kavanaugh, get him the votes he needs.
He's a great judge, and destroy what I think has been a process that will destroy the country.
I gotta tell you, I don't think e anyone would even want to run for office under these conditions.
You know, even for you taking a strong position, I mean you've been smeared and slandered by all the right people, just so you know, the same people that hate me too.
So I feel like that's the one.
Well, I don't think you've had a finer.
I will say this.
I don't think you've had a finer moment in all the years I've known you, and you know, we've had disagreements over Elena Keg McKagan and Soda Mayor.
There's two.
But I think I're your righteous indignation and your leadership has has stood out, and I applaud you for all you've done and and uh I hope it works out the right way.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for the research you do to prove fact versus fiction.
You're you're the best on television, talk about what actually is the truth.
All right, Senator.
All right, appreciate it.
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All right, let's get a lot of calls in here.
I know so many of you have been writing and texting and tweeting and social media and I gotta tell you there is there's just so much news out here, and there's so much wrong about this.
I understand why people are angry, because I'm angry.
We've now watched this sixteen day circus go on.
And now you've got the Democrats who never had any intention of, oh, we want to we want to do this expeditiously, very limited in scope, Senator Flake.
If you could just go along with us, now they want an ice throwing incident in college investigated.
This is how desperate they are to not ever have a vote on Brett Kavanaugh.
For MBC News to run what they ran last night.
Well, the four people that she gave us to corroborate this story.
Well, one is dead, the other says she doesn't know who she is, and the other two wouldn't call us back.
And then multiple inconsistencies.
She's changing her story.
Well, he was around the punch bowl, where it was they were spiking the punch bowl with quailuds and drugs and these these young boys lined up in well.
I don't know if he was one.
I saw him in the hall.
You're saying it happened on a uh almost a weekend basis.
That that boys were drugging girls and gang raping them, and that it went on for a long time.
And then you change the story.
At what point is is there any shame left among people?
I understand the the importance of the Supreme Court.
If you want to be able to pick Supreme Court nominees, you've got to win elections.
This is why 35 days from now matters so much.
Chris is in Columbia.
Chris, welcome to the program.
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
Thanks for having me.
Um, I just wanted to say that as a former police officer, I listened to Ms. Ford's testimony, and there were a couple things that I found to cause some credibility issues with her statements.
Um first that her friend failed to notice that the only other girl at the gathering disappeared, and she never to this day followed up on it.
And secondly, at the grocery store two months later, when she runs into her attacker, one of her attackers, her recollection isn't that she tried to get out of sight feeling ill, it's that she engaged him in conversation with Hive, and she remembers how he looked.
Look, it there's so much wrong with these in terms of if you're going to name people and you're going to say they were at these at at where crimes were committed and attacks took place, and those people do not corroborate your story.
Now we're going back 36 years.
I understand some people's memories, but they're adamantly denying it.
And I witnessed one eye witness is siding with Brett Kavanaugh.
This never ever, ever happened.
Her girl girlfriend says, I don't ever remember being at any such party.
When you're going to make serious allegations like this, you can't have groups of people that are supposed to be lawmakers that are rooted in, you know, laws are rooted in truth, process, due process, constitutional law, presumption of innocence, all declaring they believe even before people were heard.
You cannot have because if that's now the standard, you're guilty by accusation.
You are anybody can make any accusation, and I believe the accusation.
We have no rule of law at that point.
Throughout this whole process, nobody, and I have watched this process now unfold with Richard Jewell, Duke Lacrosse, Ferguson, Missouri, Cambridge Police, uh, Baltimore, Maryland, Trayvon and George Zimmerman, everybody thinks they know, and they all end up being wrong because they rush to judgment.
And maybe with the FBI investigation and the disastrous interview on MBC yesterday, maybe now people will understand that it's falling apart.
And people's names, character, reputations, families, they've been bludgeoned for political reasons.
Uh, our good friend Amy Kramer is checking in with us.
Uh, Amy, hi, how are you?
Your wonderful daughter Kylie is now joined our team here on the Sean Hannity show.
Did she give you the back number or did you call in and actually get through?
Oh, Sean, I hope y'all can handle her.
She's a little firecracker.
Thanks for taking care of her up there.
Oh, she's doing great.
We love her.
She's wonderful.
I appreciate you and all you you do and the team.
But Sean, I have to tell you something.
I never in my life expected to be on the same page with Lindsay Graham and in inviting him to one of our events.
And actually, we've done that this week.
Um he's uh he just I mean, he wowed us all last week, did he not?
Well, I think Brett Kavanaugh, you know, and that's another thing.
Well, he doesn't have the temperament.
Now, if you if you're accused of gang rape and accused of sexual assault, and you're innocent, how is the what is the proper way to act?
Was he supposed to be monotone?
Uh, guys, I didn't do this.
Uh it's just not true.
I mean, because as his wife is crying behind him as his daughter is saying to him, pray for this woman.
And and if he's innocent, and the half the country and these people, they don't care.
They don't care who they destroy in the process of accumulating power.
And honestly, it doesn't matter what he would have done, it wasn't gonna be the right thing.
And uh and I believe it does didn't even have to be Kavanaugh, it could have been anybody.
This is much bigger.
It's about them stopping the Supreme Court um confirmation.
That's what it's all about.
They are willing to do anything to stop it.
And these liberal women, these pink hat wearing liberal women out there speaking like they speak for all women, they don't.
They absolutely do not.
And when the press in the media and the the left is obsessed about women this um this cycle, we're just not gonna sit back and take it.
We are the ones for 60 uh since the 1960s, women have been deciding to vote.
Women were the ones that elected Donald Trump.
Women are the ones that are gonna decide what happens in the in the midterm, and we're gonna be the ones that decide what happened in 2020.
And conservative women are coming back together, and we're pushing back on all of this and saying they don't speak for us, and we stand with Brett Kavanaugh.
I mean, we are not going to back down and let and let them win this.
Absolutely no way.
Well, it's gonna be up to three senators probably Jeff Flake, Snowflake, and Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.
And then it's gonna be whether or not the whether or not I look the Senate's gonna hold a vote.
And I think Lindsey Graham has a point.
Um we haven't really heard from Susan Collins or Lisa Murkowski on the issue.
What is it particularly that that convinces them he's not qualified for the job?
You know, the guy admits that he drank, he liked to drink, he drinks beer, still likes to drink beer, sometimes drank more beer than he should have drank.
And then people say, but he must have blacked out.
We know he did.
He's a liar, he's a perjurer.
Right.
And now they want to investigate an ice throwing incident at some game, you know, back 35 years ago.
This is how absurd this has gotten.
Well, I can't tell you what I was doing 36 years ago, but I can tell you what we're doing in two days, and that is we're having a women for Trump, our first ever conference here in Washington, D.C. It's women for America first, heels on, gloves off, and women from across the country are coming together, and we're gonna spend three or four days together and talk about why we love this country, and we're gonna be bold in our support of this president and Brett Kavanaugh.
And on Thursday, we're taking a little trip to the U.S. Capitol while the others are camped out up there.
Most uh conservatives are working, but we're gonna take a trip and visit some of these senators and let them know how we feel about it and encourage them to vote.
Um, to support to confirm Brett Kavanaugh.
We need to do this, and I'm hoping that Mitch McConnell brings this vote on Thursday.
It we're having our um first event Thursday night, and it would be great to be able to celebrate the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh um women for Trump at our conference.
Well, I want to see what happens.
We'll know a lot more by the end of the week.
We may even know um I'm hearing rumors that the FBI may be very close to finishing their report.
And when that happens, maybe it'll happen before tonight when that gets announced.
Well, senators will get to read it, and then the cloture vote will Be called and we'll have an up or down vote and we'll see where people come down on this.
Shouldn't be that difficult to read.
The FBI doesn't reach conclusions.
They don't make recommendations.
They just say interviewed person A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. And but in every case there's no corroboration.
In every single case.
Every single case, there's inconsistencies.
And every single case is very problematic.
And all I'm saying is is if this is successful, we will never ever get good people.
Ever in this country.
To want to do anything publicly.
Why should they?
Sean, I completely agree.
It's a political hit job, and we need to stand up and make sure Republicans do the right thing and confirm him.
So glad to see Lindsey Graham stand with us with the president and fight back for a change instead of playing on the terms that the Democrats said.
So I hope that they keep up this fight and confirm Kavanaugh this week.
And anybody that's out there that wants to join us this weekend, we'd love to have them and uh just keep up the fight.
All right.
Thank you so much, Amy, for being with us.
We are very proud of Kylie, who's now a part of the Sean Hannity show, and she's the one that's answering everybody's calls, and she's doing a great job, and we appreciate her on the team as we do you.
Back to our busy telephones.
Uh Kathy is in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
How are you, Kathy?
Glad you call.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
Nice to uh talk to you.
What's going on?
Okay, I'm just very upset the way this is going on the way the Democratic Party has been treating this judge.
Um I feel sorry for the men of our men, children, a son, a father, that we have to fear that a woman is going to be paid by George Surrett to come out and say, Oh, I was molested.
Okay, if this woman was my heart was out to her, but it was not by Judge Kavanaugh.
I I feel that.
I know that.
The Democrats are using this and destroying out the show system.
I will tell you that we see it every two and four years.
Systematically.
It's now we come to expect it.
They want to smear, slander, destroy, character assassinate, and now they do it for anybody, anything, everybody's fair game.
Doesn't matter how young your children are, doesn't matter what your that your wife is crying behind you, doesn't matter that there's no evidence, nothing matters.
Uh Pam is in Hampton, Virginia.
Pam, how are you?
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
Thank you for taking my call.
I have three quick points, and I'll make them click and then you can comment.
First of all, if high school records matter, why didn't they matter with Obama?
That's a great point.
Second of all, well, wait a minute.
He was part of the waywho.
He was part of the two.
Wait a minute.
He was part of the chum gang, remember?
Yes.
Yeah.
Did a little blow.
Remember, I think we have the tape of him admitting that.
Yeah, but it didn't matter then.
Now it's critical.
Critical mask.
Second of all, where were the parents or the owner of the house or the houses?
I mean, somebody had to know something.
I I just can't believe that kids were just congregating and it hounds us.
Listen, it's very, very hard to believe this part of it to me.
That again, in the case of Julie S uh Sweatnick was now all over the place with her story.
And well, he was near the punch ball, so I I don't know.
He gave girls red solo cups.
That is not drugging.
That was not the original alleged drugging girls and gang train raping girls.
Well, he was in the hallway, but I don't know if it was him.
He was there, but I don't know.
He was near the punch bowl, whatever you call the bowl.
This is so serious.
You don't make allegations that somebody is a gang rapist and that it went goes on almost every weekend.
You know, and she went to ten of those parties, and that she was aware of, but she didn't realize at the time why the boys were lined up in the halls waiting their turn to gang rape the girls that they had drugged.
This is what Democrats want investigated.
And she gave an interview.
And in the interview, she gave multiple statements That were inconsistent with the statement she put out last week and was backtracking from her original statement.
Probably because it's so problematic.
You know, you call somebody, remember we used the classic example.
You know, when did you stop beating your wife?
When did you stop being a gang rapist?
You know, they're trying to put the burden of proof on a judge Kavanaugh.
They've concluded he's guilty just by accusation.
And these stories doesn't matter.
There's no corroboration.
These Democrats will still vote against them.
And if a few vote for him, it's only an election year conversion.
Don't believe it.
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All three allegations falling apart.
Looks like the FBI investigation is near complete.
Senator Lindsey Graham, Alan Dershowitz wants an investigation into Avenati's client.
We'll check in with Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, Steve Ducey tonight, and a Minnesota lawmaker calling out Keith Ellison.
By the way, where's Diane Feinstein and all of the Senate Democrats on Keith?
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We'll see you tonight, and we'll be back here in DC tomorrow.
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