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Yes, we made it another incredibly busy, busy newsweek, but here we are.
And so glad you're a part of the show.
We got a lot of news to get to today.
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We got polls uh not looking good for Robert Mueller and his witch hunt.
We got Mark Meadows dropping a bombshell.
Did they did they tamper with General Flynn's interview summary?
What's known as a 302 or 302 report?
We got sessions finally yanking struck security clearance.
We'll get to that today.
Yeah, Time magazine using a fake photo of a crying young girl to bash family bash President Trump on family separations.
I mean, it's it's almost the news is like a caricature of themselves now.
We've got uh a Rasmussen poll, large uh landslide margin voters blaming illegals for family separation fiasco.
You can also blame Congress.
The last person you can blame is Trump, who actually cleaned up everybody else's mess because it was Congress's law signed into law by another president.
And as Obama said repeatedly, I'm not the emperor, I don't have the power, I've got to enforce the laws you give me.
I didn't make this law, even if it inflicts harm.
Um then we have a trump hating TV writer.
If you think it was bad with Baron Trump, the president's 12-year-old son this week, it gets worse.
Now they're literally threatening to kidnap the granddaughter, four-year-old granddaughter of the president.
Top everything else.
I'll get to all this today.
And a lot of news on immigration we're gonna hit.
I want to first, I just want to take a moment.
And Charles Crowdhammer passed away.
And you know, it's funny, we didn't agree on every political issue, but we had a great relationship.
And the relationship really took on a very personal side, and I have a this is a personal story that I have with him, and it gave Charles Crowdhammer great joy to tell the story at dinners that he was attending to tell the story in speeches that he gave,
to tell the story in the book that he wrote, and then eventually after the book, he came on on Hannity, the TV show, and and then he literally told the story on air.
And to me, it's a story that reflects and defines profile and courage.
Now, look, if you really if it's I think it's very hard.
I think we all live in our own little bubble worlds because you know, we have to survive and we're busy and we're raising our kids, and you know, we're working hard, and it's government's taking more, and it's tough, and you know, you're grinding it out day by day by day.
And I don't think anybody in life particularly has it that easy.
And yeah, I think money can help, but I don't think money defines happiness.
I it's not a cliche, it's a reality, and I've lived in both worlds, having none and having some, and I definitely prefer the latter, but there was something about if you have the ability to just see the the life others live and have any sense of human compassion and empathy.
You can look at somebody like Charles Crowdhammer and just think of the average day for him.
He was 68 years old.
And he became a doctor.
And he's in his 20s.
And he has a horrific car accident.
And now for the rest of his life, he's paralyzed pretty much from the neck down.
And long story short, and I think this defines it, but every day of his life, getting up, waking up, eating breakfast, getting dressed, taking a shower, getting to a car, every single thing that we do without thinking is a huge, massive ordeal for him.
I never really saw him without, you know, he was impeccably dressed constantly and looking his best always.
And all the years that I had read his columns and interviewed him, I didn't know he was in a wheelchair.
I did not know his life story.
Now he was always in Washington, D.C., and I'm I'm sort of my headquarters is in New York City.
And but for whatever reason, I always just when I'm interviewing somebody, I'm I I think I've gotten better at being an interviewer because I try to listen to what people say now, and I don't go in with a million prepared questions.
Because I'm prepared, I have it in front of me.
I did all my research, but if you don't listen, you can't have a real conversation and ask the natural follow-up question if you're just thinking about what the next question is.
And I want to be the best I can be at what I do.
And over the years, I mean, the people that have taught me to be a better host of frankly, you, this audience, because I read feedback about what you say about me and what you say about the show and what you prefer, and I listen.
So one of the reasons I kind of gave up the debate format um in so many ways because people can't stand people shouting over each other.
And so I I look I just try to listen.
I try to be my best.
Anyway, so when I first met Charles, it was in Washington, D.C., I don't remember the exact date or or time, and I hadn't known he was in a wheelchair.
And I said, Charles, I just never knew, and I'm embarrassed.
I should have known this.
I should have, you know, know more about your life and about your background.
And he just laughed and he laughed it off.
And I apologized to him, and then he laughed harder.
And I'm like, okay, uh, I'm feeling pretty stupid here, but if it makes you laugh, I'm cool with it.
That's okay.
Anyway, it turns out that that story became a real source of pride for him because I came to know later.
A lot of people didn't know.
And he told me, he goes, You have no idea.
After I told that story, so many people wrote me, so many people called me, so many people told me they didn't know either.
And he absolutely loved it.
And the reason he loved it is because, in spite of trials and tribulations that we all don't have to go through every day.
And I see this with a lot of military guys that have had their legs blown off and their arms blown off and their faces disfigured.
I I ask every one of them, how do you deal with it?
I mean, emotionally, it's the toughest thing that you now, your life has changed forever.
It's been altered.
And Charles, I a friend of mine wrote me a story, work with him years ago when I guess he was at the New Republic, and said, Charles Crowdhammer used to take a pencil and put it in his mouth and on an old computer before they have these dictation programs that are now available that are phenomenal.
Technology is phenomenal for people that have any kind of disability or handicap.
I mean, it's it's so great that that people can invent things that make other people's lives easier.
I just love inventions.
Used to go to the invention convention.
So anyway, that's what that's how hard he worked.
Now imagine you have to get out of bed, and that's hard.
You have to take a shower, that's hard.
You have to eat, that's hard.
You have to get to the car, so that's hard.
You have to get out of the car, that's hard.
Every just everything's complicated.
Nothing is easy anymore.
And it's it's an ordeal.
So Charles then took that story, and he ended up putting it on his book, but it also at dinner parties because word got back to me and in speeches and word got back to me.
And it became between the two of us something that kind of defined our relationship.
And it was me learning about a man that absolutely refused to be defined by one of the toughest physical challenges anybody can have.
Now I know a lot of us think we have problems.
I know I do.
I whine, I complain.
Look at Linda, she's shaking her head.
Yup, you do.
Yep, you do stop.
Why are you making fun of me?
I never make fun of you.
I always support you.
All right, but true, right?
I mean, we all think we have problems.
And then you look at what Charles Crowdhammer had to do every day to get to his job.
And then he's got to type out a column, you know, with a pencil, and then typing it into a computer.
Imagine you misspell a word.
It's like, oh, now you got to go hit the backspace.
Then you got to do it.
And then I mean, it's so hard.
But he did it all and he pushed through.
And I just loved that about him.
And it was to me the embodiment of a profile and courage.
His entire life became a profile profile of courage of what you can do in spite of the massive obstacles that you're clearly and obviously facing every day.
And the fact that that story helped him, it sort of validated for him that people didn't see him as a guy in a wheelchair.
That it that people saw him for his heart, his incredibly brilliant and keen intellect, and for the great patriot that he is.
He loved this country.
And he did move the debate.
And we didn't always agree.
Sometimes he frustrated me.
Other times I'm like, that's genius.
That wasn't what our relationship was based on.
And I then when his book finally came out and he told the story in the book.
I'm like, really?
I said, you're making a living off this story, and it it totally humiliates me.
And he loved it.
And that's why I chose this clip to air on TV last night.
I'm going to play the audio here.
And by the way, I love the fact that you you gave a speech one day and you told the story about me and all the years that we had known each other.
Go ahead, you can mock me on national TV.
I I know mock.
He's laughing right now.
I'm always surprised that you're upset by that.
I am.
I think it's the most charming story.
And as you know, I told it again on the special that Brett Baer did.
He prompted me.
He was sort of the provocateur there.
I said, you know, Sean doesn't really like it, but it's a wonderful story.
And it just shows.
I mean, I like it because it shows how, you know, I haven't made this fact that I'm in a wheelchair sort of the center of my life.
And the fact that you weren't even aware of it, I thought was lovely.
So it was a way to compliment you.
No, I listen, it it it's a it's a friendly story that we have between the two of us.
And you know, but the story is really inspiring.
The special was fantastic, by the way.
And uh it's it's it's it reminds all of us that think we have problems sometimes that people are everybody has problems, and some people are struggling with some really incredible things, and your ability to overcome, I found inspiring.
So thank you.
And I'm just you know, I don't know.
I mean, I don't understand death.
I've been fascinated in my life that the human mind, if we really just stand back and put our problems and clear our minds and just look, and you look at, you know, a blade of grass and the tiniest ant, and then you build it into the minds of human beings, everything in the the animal kingdom, everything in nature.
Then you look to the clouds and the sun and the stars and gravity, and then you think of a massive huge universe, and now we've discovered universes within universes within universes, and then you know, people have near-death experiences and they describe a peace and a serenity and and something that we can't even comprehend on this earth, and the Bible tells us that every hair of our head is counted.
And you just, you know, my faith, my belief in God, and I'm a Christian and Jesus, it just tells me that you know that's a time when we're made whole.
And I pray that for Charles Crowdhammer.
I really loved this guy as a man.
He was a profile in courage.
And he taught me a lot.
And it's not something he ever knew that he really taught me.
And he taught me courage.
And he taught me, you know what?
This life is hard.
Deal with it.
Because he showed us every day.
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Sean, the president just uh met with some angel mobs, and I think we're the only ones, and tell me if I'm wrong, Linda, that actually covered the fact that there's a permanent separation of thousands of people, mothers and fathers, from their children because they are killed by illegal immigrants.
Yeah, we've been the only show that's done that.
We featured them a few times, and we started interviewing Laura Wilkerson years ago, and then we're gonna be able to do that.
I actually love that woman.
She's an amazing lady.
You know, the Ronnebeck family, the Mendoza family.
Mr. Ronneback is a great guy.
He lost his son Grant, right?
That's correct.
And uh, and we also had uh Mrs. Mary Mendoza.
And you know, there was an article, I don't remember who wrote it, but uh, I feel for separation.
I understand separation because my child was killed by an illegal immigrant.
Now, that does not mean every illegal immigrant is a murderer.
Well no, nobody's saying that.
But there are crimes, a lot of them associated with illegal immigration.
No, I think the point that they raise is that where were the tears for their children?
Nobody in the media covered the loss of their children.
Nobody cared about the death of their children.
And then we have something like this photoshop moment with this little girl that wasn't separated from her mother, and we're all our hearts are breaking, and meanwhile, she was just crying because she had to put her down for a minute, which is what a lot of two-year-olds do speaking as a mother of one.
Her father said she was never separated from her parents.
Correct, and handed right back.
And and by the way, every parent, when you're in a grocery store, you have to put your if you're holding your child's, which is hard when you're shopping, but you take your kids shopping, and then you have to put the kid down, and you know what?
They're gonna cry sometimes.
That happens.
Or they're gonna start grabbing, as I did as a kid, every bit of candy and stuffing it in my pockets, and my father's saying, that's stealing.
Don't steal.
I don't know if has Liam done that yet.
It's a good one.
Yeah, we've returned quite a few items these.
Did you walk him back and say, no, no, no, we have to pay.
You have to pay for that.
Liam thinks he's giving them a present.
Here's your present.
Here's a present.
He's giving them their stuff.
Also known as stolen merchandise.
We're turning the stolen goods.
It's it's a it's a it's a nice moment for us with the managers.
No, no, no.
I mean, it's the thing is it's like you just sit in there and I mean the kids, they don't really know that you can't have it.
You know, it's sort of like, don't touch the cookie.
Well, they're gonna touch the cookie.
I mean, you just basically say and don't touch it.
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Now, so we have the president meeting with these people, and then we've got all these other stories that are emerging today.
I think the most shocking is Time magazine.
We keep talking about fake news.
What Linda was referring to, they used The fake photo to bash the president on the family separation issue.
By the way, nobody said anything when Obama did the same thing.
And they literally photoshop a picture of a young girl crying, staring and looking up at a stern-looking Trump.
The girl's father had to emerge and complain.
His daughter was never ripped away from her mother's arms by border agents or anybody else ever.
And there was no separation.
She happens to be from Honduras, and she's sobbing and she's in a you know pink jacket before the president.
You don't think there's fake news?
It's right there.
Just like the news or so-called news uh companies in this country avoid the IG report and great economic news.
By the way, that goes for all of them.
Strzok and Paige and yeah, the idea that Peter Strzok's gonna willingly testify before Congress.
I hope he does.
Can't wait to see it.
Uh, by the way, I I I misspoke.
I was so involved in telling the Krauthammer story as I uh his accident was a uh diving board accident.
I forgot exactly what had happened.
And it was sort of irrelevant to the story, except that the relationship we built about him being in the wheelchairs.
I I just got 50,000 text messages.
So you forgot you idiot.
I'm like, all right, can we cut me some slack?
I'm tired from Singapore.
Um by the way, I'm just finally feeling normal.
It takes a long time to get back on schedule.
It's crazy.
Um, we're gonna miss him though.
I you know, if you think of I'm just sort of thinking out loud here.
If you I've been fascinated my whole life, and it's was part of the movie that I did, Let There Be Light, and it was a component of it.
And you read these life after life books, they fascinate me.
You know, 90 Minutes in Heaven or Heaven is Real, and that became a movie, but I think both of them became movies, and it was a component of Let There Be Light, the movie that I was a part of.
If you haven't seen it, you can get it on DVD, you can buy it on, I guess, Amazon or get it in Walmart or anywhere.
And I'm just if you read the stories about people that have had near-death experiences that literally were clinically dead, and they all tell a story, and it's so similar in so many different ways, but there's variations on the story about literally they they see themselves as sort of their soul is hovering above and they see their own body.
In the case of you know, Don Dan Piper's 90 Minutes in Heaven, and you know, he saw his body in an accident.
I think it was on a bridge.
And then all of a sudden, like you're your whole life is flashing before your eyes, and then you're in a tunnel, and then you see a light, and then you're drawn to that light, literally like pulled into the light, and you have this feeling of sort of euphoric peace that is something that they can't even describe, except they want that feeling back again.
And almost without fail, there have been people that have been atheists that have gone through this experience and then come back convinced, yeah, God is real and God exists.
And but then they tell the story of not only this great peace that overwhelms them, but then they are sort of drawn into what they believe is heaven.
Now, I know there are skeptics, agnostics, atheists that don't maybe believe in this, and that's fine.
Don't have to believe what you want.
I don't care.
Um, I believe it because I look at this creation, this for everything from the insignificant, you know, size of a little baby ant and the zillions of them that they are, as annoying as they can be at times, and then you look at nature in all its beauty, and then you look at the animal kingdom, and then you look, you know, just look down when you're on an airplane, and it just looks so small.
It looks like a kid putting a school project together and you know, building little neighborhoods and houses.
That's kind of what it looks like.
It looks puny.
And then you think of okay, the entire, not just the United States, but the entire globe, and you think of you know, ever all the very variable conditions that exist, you know, hot, cold.
You know, you're in Singapore, you're sweating the minute you walk outside.
That's pretty much the condition all year round.
You know, Florida has nicer weather than New York.
I mean, and you go from there.
And then you think, okay, well, we live in a solar system.
I mean, then there are other planets, and there are moons, and there's the clouds and the sun and the stars and the sky, and Then you have a big universe.
And you have the Milky Way.
And then if you look deeper, we have black holes.
And then if you look deeper than that, we find universes within universes within universes.
I don't think the human mind is capable to absorb the magnitude and majesty of God's creation.
I just think we're supposed to be in awe of it and realize we don't know.
And every time our big fat egos get in the way, all we have to do is say, well, I can't do that.
One simple thing.
You know, the Bible says, you know, who by taking thought can add one inch to their stature or one second to their life.
You can't.
And then if you take it down to the belief, as I believe in a God that the very hairs on your head are counted, it just should blow our minds away.
For me, it does.
And the story of reconciliation between God the Father and He sent His only begotten Son to suffer, die on a cross, absorbing the sins of the world so that we may reconcile to God the Father.
It's unbelievable.
And then these people tell these experiences.
And they describe Pearly Gates.
And they describe a sense of peace and happiness that is unreachable on this planet.
And you think, you know, well, we still have a lot of happiness and a lot of happy moments on this planet and in this life.
And it gets better and it's always better.
And there's no downside, there's no bad side, there's no dark side, there's no, and that's what heaven is.
That's what they described.
You know, they describe music on levels that we can't even begin to comprehend.
So it's kind of cool.
I mean, to read, I just find it as an interesting thing.
And you know, when you think of Charles and his accident, I didn't mean to misspeak in the last half hour.
I apologize, but how his life was altered after he became a doctor, and then how hard he worked, all the challenges that he had.
It's pretty amazing.
He's gonna be missed.
Um earlier today, the president met with angel moms, and I don't think there's any other show that is brought the attention.
These are moms and dads.
We've had many of them over the years on this program that have lost their precious children to murder, violence, DUI, accidents, drunken on drugs, whatever, by illegal immigrants.
Is that every illegal immigrant?
No.
But is that part of the problem when we can't control our borders?
Yes, it is.
Does the media ever pay attention to it?
No.
Well, the president did today, they're called angel moms, and here's a little bit of what happened.
I'm one of your legal immigrants.
I came the right way, I paid lots of money.
Took me five years to become a citizen, a proud citizen.
And I didn't drag my son, he named himself German chocolate.
He was born in Germany.
I didn't drag him over borders through deserts, I didn't place him in harm's way.
I protected my child from harm, but I couldn't do that on July 12, 2012.
He was 30 years old.
I couldn't protect him because an illegal alien from Guatemala with two felonies, one deportation, two DUIs.
He was protected.
Riverside, California Sanctuary.
The judge, the DA, they knew who he was.
They gave him probation after his second DUI.
Five weeks later, he killed my child.
And if that wasn't enough to deal with, this is my only child.
I have no family.
That's it.
The public needs to know, and they deserve to know that this could happen to each one of you in any given second.
You hug your child, you send them off, no matter what age they are, and then you get that ugly phone call that will forever change your life.
And thank God our president and vice president, voice, my family of Aviac.
They rallied behind us.
They were the only ones and gave us a little light.
I was gonna end my life.
I had no purpose.
But President Trump coming down that escalator that day and talking about illegal immigration stopped me in my track.
And I had no clue at that point that I would ever be at the White House.
And I thank President Trump.
Vice President Pence.
Everybody behind me.
I thank you.
I think everybody out here.
Make sure you get our stories out.
I brought my son.
This is what I have left, his ashes.
I wear his ashes in a locket.
This is how I get to hug my son.
So remember when you go home and hug your kids, that there are many of us, thousands of us, who don't get to do that anymore.
And let's work together and get this done.
All politicians, I don't care what side you're on.
You don't want your child in a casket or in an urn.
So get it together for God's sake for this country, for our citizens.
Thank you.
I mean, you hear these stories, and you just say, you know, how does this happen?
How does this possibly happen?
And we can end it, by the way, and that's the point.
And we we can protect, you know, citizens if we really uh want to.
Her name is Sabine uh Durden is her name, and you know, she's telling her story, and it's a very compelling story.
And there are plenty of other moms, angel moms and dads that we've had on the program over the years that the media never talks about.
You know, and literally her son Dominic killed by an accident by an illegal immigrant and saying that the United States needs to secure its borders.
And you think about it, it's good for everybody.
You know, think of just the the billions of dollars, the impact on the educational system, the criminal justice system, uh, the health care system in America that Americans have to pay.
Those that, you know, I know there are people that come and want a better life.
I understand it.
But they got to do it legally like everybody else.
Like she was describing her own experience here.
And you know, for the media to come out with their fake photo to bash Trump on family separations is unbelievable.
By the way, there's a new two new polls out on the witch hunt of Robert Mueller, and they both show that his approval rating is dropping like a rock, and support for Robert Mueller's investigation now has declined since the beginning in the summer of 2017.
And what they're now found is, you know, that only 52 percent support the continuation of it, which is down from 73%, and it's going down from there.
Meanwhile, the number of Americans that support ending it is now up of 45.
And people are beginning to get it more every day that this is and has been a witch hunt.
Anyway, at the time, what, 47% approved?
You got another one?
I mean, it's very clear.
Mark Meadows dropped an absolute bombshell yesterday on Robert Mueller's case against General Michael Flynn.
Might explain why Michael Flynn has been dragged back again and again and again to Mueller's office, even after the so-called deal.
No, not sure what's going on there, but if what Meadows suspects turns out to be true, we're gonna finally have an explanation for why General Flynn was not indicted for lying to the FBI when both FBI agents who interviewed him, including struck being there, and James Comey, the director, said he didn't lie.
And according to Meadows, evidence has now emerged that shows that during the months between Flynn's January 2017 interview and his November 2017 indictment by Robert Mueller, Flynn's FBI 302 witness summary may have been tampered with or altered.
And the Hill reports, Meadows told the Hill that one focus of the House investigation is whether the FBI interview reports, they're known as 302 reports about General Michael Flynn were actually altered to improve the chances that he'd be prosecuted.
Let me explain.
That's altering evidence.
That's actually taking something that is exculpatory and turning it into something that's damning.
I mean, it you know, this is this is the type of environment we're now living in.
And only, you know, I guess we should be thankful for small favors, but why did it take so long?
You know, sessions as Yang Peter struck security clearance.
You know, we got Paul Mannerford who's not been found guilty of any crime, and he's in jail in solitary confinement.
He hasn't had a trial, let alone been found guilty of anything.
He's not being accused of any violent crime.
He's not part of the mob.
He's not, you know, likely to take out a hit on somebody.
You know, I thought we saved those tactics for the for violent felons.
You know, by a landside margin, by the way, voters blame illegals for the family separation fiasco.
You can also blame Congress, it's their law.
And um, then you got this guy in Canada, so-called comedy writer, on top of everything with Baron Trump, on top of all the attacks against Melania Trump, the regular attacks against Ivanka Trump.
Well, now they're attacking Donald Jr.'s four-year-old daughter.
This is a this is this is TV in Canada.
Don't worry, we're coming for Chloe too.
Okay.
Finally, the tweet was deleted.
Actor James Wood snapped a screenshot and thankfully notified the Secret Service and Donald Trump Jr. retweeted both of James Wood's messages condemning this guy who said this is exactly the kind of violence that has been inspired by Peter Fonda's tweet.
The individual making this suggestive terrorist threat against their granddaughter of the president is a TV writer.
Uh yeah, and the enemy rights, which sadly makes sense in today's twisted world of Hollywood.
Then he had to send out an apology.
Is an apology enough?
I don't know if it's enough, to be honest with you.
All right, a lot coming up in the program tonight.
Happy Friday.
Uh we have Roger Stone is going to join us next.
He did um either way, he has a crazy book out, which by the way, I break every rule.
Stone's rules how to be successful in life.
It's actually pretty interesting.
Um, but he has said of late that he thinks he is being persecuted and attacked just for being Donald Trump's friend, and that he believes that Robert Mueller has a target on him, and some uh a change in testimony that he gave on one detail.
We'll ask him about that and much more straight ahead.
Michael Capudo contacted me, and he said that he had been contacted by a man using an alias, as it turns out, Henry Greenberg, who had information that he said would be of great value to the Trump campaign.
Every congresswoman would take the call if they got that call.
Oh, we got info on your uh op research on your opponent.
I took the meeting, and Henry Greenberg turns out to be an FBI informant of Russian descent, who's been admitted to the country nine times on informant visas, who is a violent felon uh who would otherwise could not be in the country.
And then he tries to entrap me, but he gives away the game when he says he wants two million dollars for negative information on Hillary.
When I tell him I don't have two million dollars, he says it's not your money I want, it's Donald Trump's money.
I think it's the first known example of the Peter Stroke insurance policy.
I think it was an FBI plant seeking to compromise to entrap me and to compromise Trump.
All right, hour two Sean Hannity show, right down our toll-free telephone number.
It's 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, that was uh Roger Stone.
He's got a brand new book out, by the way.
It's called called Stone's Rules, How to Win a Politics and what else is it?
Politics.
Tenor and life.
Politics, business, and and style, right?
Yes, exactly.
All right.
Now, before we get to the issue at hand, that was you on our TV show.
So I read your book.
I actually read it.
It's an e- it's by the way, it's a fun book.
It's a great read.
And you know what?
It has really entertaining Roger Stone-esque rules in there, which crack me up because everybody knows you're a character with a huge tattoo on your back.
Um that you love to show the TV cameras, which also makes me laugh.
So every other rule is about how to dress.
And I'm looking at it.
Well, I'm a total loser because I wear jeans and t-shirts and baseball hats on backwards, and that's how I live my life.
And I'm like, I'm never gonna pass the I'm never gonna be a success in life.
Actually, Sean, that's not true.
I've never seen you on TV once in which you didn't look sharp.
You'd have Greek taste in that ties.
Greek taste.
A lot of them are Trump ties.
That's all true, and I've been very upfront about it.
Uh, I I do like listen, way before he was president, just to let everyone calm their ass down.
Um, you know, This is a fascinating story to me.
Um and I've been watching.
You actually believe Robert Mueller has a target on your back, and that Robert Mueller may try to indict you, and for what reason?
That's an excellent question.
All my political activities in 2016 towards electing Donald Trump are perfectly legal and fully disclosed.
I think I'm being persecuted because I'm a supporter of the president.
I'm a friend of Paul Manafort's.
Uh, and I think they would like to find some extraneous offense on which they could pressure me to give them something on Donald Trump.
That, Sean, is something that will never happen.
Um it's not a fun feeling, is it to think that you have the power of a special counsel and unlimited resources, and a team that I've talked an awful lot about, uh, why the rest of the country doesn't seem concerned that that that the special counsel Robert Muller has put together a team of only Democratic donors, no Republican donors, no independent donors, and then Jeannie Ray, who was a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation, that's part of his team.
We now know that there were three Trump hating FBI guys that were a part of the team, including Peter Strzok himself, and we also know Andrew Weissman, who has the most atrocious ethical record of any lawyer I think I have ever heard of in the United States.
Well, he's he's the pit bull of uh Mr. Muller, and that's troubling to me.
And my big question is why doesn't anyone else in the country seem to feel or understand that that that is an abusively biased group of people?
Well, not only that, but Sean, you're absolutely right.
Having federal prosecutors unfettered, poking through every single molecule of your personal life, your business life, your your political activities, asking intensely personal questions uh of my associates and former associates.
How do you get along with his wife?
How's his relationship with his children?
Does he drink a lot?
Uh does he use drugs?
Uh where's his money come from?
Who are his clients?
I thought this was about Russian collusion.
Uh, but it's clearly not.
Uh, this is a hit squad.
This is a get Trump squad, and their job is to undo the results of the last election.
Robert Mueller's record is atrocious.
Uh th this is a guy who arrested the wrong three guys in the anthrax matter, the guy they did arrest, dies mysteriously in custody, fails to to investigate reports of the Sarasota flight school, where five of nine 9-11 hijackers are training,
uh, who who lies uh to leave four innocent guys in jail in Boston to to protect Mafia informants of the FBI and who mules the uranium specimens to Moscow in the uranium one matter.
When Lindsay Graham says he's widely uh it's respected on a bipartisan basis, what was he talking about?
I don't know.
I really uh you know, here is I think a real big problem we have.
And go back to Judge Ellis and what I thought was one of the biggest judicial beatdowns from the bench I've ever seen.
And when Judge Ellis said about the the special counsel, let me see, I under I think I understand this that you'll go back to the Justice Department, you reopen a case from 2005 that has to do with tax fraud, has nothing to do with Russia.
You're supposedly investigating Russia collusion, and you reopen that case, but it had to do with Ukraine, and um and then you what you want to do here is you want to put the screws, his words, not mine, to Paul Manafort.
So Paul Manafort begins to feel the heat and the pressure, and then he begins to sing or even compose his words, meaning some born perjury is my interpretation.
And then, by the way, then you get to prosecute or impeach Donald Trump.
That seems to be the obvious case that's going on here.
And by the way, he said that with Andrew Weissman in the courtroom.
And it seems like that's what they're doing with everybody, because they don't have any evidence on their own.
But their Achilles heel are the unconstitutional illegal FISA warrants that I believe were levied against Paul Manafort, Carter Page, and according to the New York Times on January 20th, 2017, Roger Stone.
The government in the Manafort case continues to insist that Manafort was never under surveillance at any time, even though the New York Times, the Washington Post, AP, Fox have all repeat uh reported otherwise.
They don't want to talk about that illegal politically based surveillance, which is why Manafort's sitting in jail.
That's why they're squeezing him to plead guilty, because they don't want to go to trial and answer that question.
You know, it really is going to be very interesting because um look, I I've not had a lot of experience with judges in my life, but I do know this.
You lie to a judge, you're gonna be in deep trouble.
And we know on four separate occasions the original Pfizer Warrant application and three subsequent applications.
The final one, interestingly, signed by Rod Rosenstein, uh, used Hillary Clinton bought and paid for uh Russian lies, many that have been debunked, that was funneled money to a an op research group, then to a foreign national who I thought wasn't supposed to influence American elections, who himself, under an interrogatory in Great Britain, said uh that he didn't think any of the intelligence was verified or corroborated, and maybe it was 50-50.
And that becomes the basis of Pfizer warrants to spy on American citizens, Roger.
That's not the United States of America.
That's not constitutional.
And is it coincidental that even today Rod Rosenstein is refusing to hand over information regarding those very FISA warrants to the Congress?
This is the cover-up.
This is their Achilles heel, and they know it.
A FISA warrant can only be issued against an American citizen if they are actively involved in espionage on behalf of a foreign power against the United States.
That clearly was not the case here.
This is much, much worse than Watergate.
This is the use of the power and the authority of the state to spy on Donald Trump's campaign for president.
It's no, it's even worse than that, though.
No, they ex they literally put the fix in on Hillary Clinton who did commit felonies and who did obstruct justice.
The case has never been a more clear case of either.
The violation, mishandling, destruction of classified information, violation of the espionage act, nor the obstruction of justice case, which is deleting subpoenaed emails, acid washing your hard drive, and beating up your devices with hammers.
And uh, why do I suspect if you did it, you would be handcuffed and you'd be in solitary confinement like Paul Manafort right now?
Well, and if we had a uh an attorney general and an assistant attorney general committed to the rule of law, we might be prosecuting those crimes.
But instead, we're covering up an effort by the Obama Justice Department to rig the previous presidential election.
Let me ask you this.
Well, you recently added an addendum to your testimony.
I think it was before the House Intel Committee and Devin Nunes.
And in that you said you wanted to add uh apparently Michael Caputo had asked you to meet with this particular guy that I guess he said was Russian?
Uh he knew he was Russian.
I didn't know he was Russian until I met with him, and then it was pretty clear from his accent.
Uh but yes, I simply just I simply did not recall this.
It was a 20 minute meeting that was ludicrous the idea that Trump would pay two million dollars for documents.
But as I said earlier, I have no reason to dissemble or hide the meeting because I acted properly.
I rejected the effort.
Uh and uh you met with this guy for 20 minutes and it turns out it was an FBI informant who actually was from Russia but was on, you know, a visa because I guess he had nine different visas given to be an FBI informant, even though he had committed violent felonies in Russia?
Yes, exactly.
So how does a guy who spent ten years in prison in Russia for a gun crime enter the country?
Hopefully the House Intelligence Committee will get to the bottom of why he was in the country or should more importantly, how he was in the country in 2016.
CNN, by the way, reports this story today, never mentions, not once that he was an FBI informant, as if they're not watching, they're not listening.
It's extraordinary.
So what do you do?
I mean, and what does that mean that you know we have talked about the Pfizer abuse, we've talked about the felonies Hillary committed, we've talked about a rigged investigation, an exoneration uh written before an investigation.
We've talked about in the IG report pointed out in unbelievable shocking detail the the hatred and antipathy towards the president and the love of Hillary and how they went all in to help her and destroy him.
And when you put all of this together, and then you've got spies literally in the Trump campaign, and they had their they they used the flying uh uh dossier to get these Pfizer warrants.
How do you fix this abuse of power to this extent Because you're still living through it.
I mean, do you fear you might get indicted?
Do you fear they're gonna bang in your door like they did Manafort in, you know, some early dawn raid with guns blazing?
Well, uh uh if I say yes, then uh MSNBC will report that Stone uh fears his criminal culpability in extraneous crimes.
It's entirely possible, but it would have to be contrived.
All right, we'll take a break more with Roger Stone.
Uh his book is out, Stone's Rules, How to Win a Politics, Business and Style.
800-941 Sean is on number.
We'll get to your phone calls at the bottom of the half hour.
All right, as we continue, Roger Stone is with us.
His book is out.
It's called Stone's Rules, How to Win a Politics, Business and Style.
Um, let me go back to this this addendum that you gave or edition you gave to your testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes' committee, and and this meeting with this individual that wanted you to pay him two million dollars for op research on Hillary.
And I think the first thing we've got to point out is op research and paying for op research is pretty much standard operating procedure in politics today, right?
Well, actually, you rarely pay for it, but it's offered to you, and most of it is garbage.
As a political professional, it would be irresponsible not to check it out and see if there's anything of value.
Well, that's my point.
And he never described it as emails, he never told me what it was.
I just thought it was a con job at the time, just a shakedown from my own.
Why did you think no idea?
Why did you not remember it when you testified, considering this whole thing was about Trump Russia collusion?
Because just knowing the media, they want to jump on anything that can say, really, Roger didn't remember.
Here's why, because it was May of 2016, and Hillary had not yet played the Russia card.
Rusophobia had not yet become an issue.
People say, well, two million dollars, that's not a lot of money.
I found Donald Trump as a friend of his and a confidant of his and a consultant to him for 39 years.
He's a billionaire.
He had said publicly he would spend whatever it took.
I seen people try to get millions out of him for years, so the number was not jarring.
It was unrealistic because Trump was not paying for any opposition research.
Well, he's less than anybody, I know character using an alias.
So the that's interesting.
So this was in May of 2016.
Russia wasn't on the radar in any way at that time.
And you're basically you sit with this guy, you think he's a fraud, and you just see okay, go get twenty two million dollars from someone else, and you just forget it and move on.
And then you never brought it to the president or anybody in his campaign.
Correct.
I never discussed it with Donald Trump can't as candidate or as president, never discussed it with anyone in the campaign because it was a ludicrous idea.
It was not till Caputo was interviewed by Robert Muller's people, who, by the way, seem to know all about this, interestingly enough, uh that it jarred his memory.
In other words, that would be an FBI informant and you believe a setup.
Set up in other words, for you.
Exactly.
About Russia, which is an interesting, it's interesting in terms of the timeline because nobody was thinking about Russia then.
But it is about the time that the Australian ambassador reaches out for Papadopoulos.
By the way, they didn't they didn't meet in a bar.
This was pre-scheduled.
Uh uh, and I have uh I uh I believe that is the case.
Well, May was the month that uh Strzok and Comey were writing the exoneration, but they wouldn't interview Hillary until July.
Uh but yet that exoneration was being written with the term uh gross negligence in it, and the fact that it was likely foreign entities had hacked into Hillary's email.
By the way, everybody hacked into that email server of hers.
Everybody, apparently.
Well uh I I believe that to be the case.
As I said on your uh TV show the other night, I believe this is the earliest manifestation of the Peter Strapp insurance policy.
This is very clearly an FBI sting, which fortunately I reject out of hand.
The whole thing was over in 20 minutes.
Good for you.
I bet you're glad you did.
I mean, even though it shows up at the the guy shows up at the meeting wearing a MAGA hat and a Trump t-shirt.
Why are we inviting nine uh why are we inviting violent felons and sending them into political campaigns, but only one campaign?
It's a question we need an answer to.
Uh Roger Stone, thank you for being with us.
Sean, thanks for having me.
All right, 25 now until the top of the hour.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Um, as promised, look, we've had a lot of information come in this week, and I mean, it is I've never witnessed in my life a news cycle that flies by so big, it is so incredible.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones here.
You know what?
Big time AJ in Houston, Texas.
I have seen your name up on my call screener this week twice, and I didn't get to go to you.
Uh how are you, my friend?
It's gonna be great that this moment to hear your voice.
Big time Sean.
Big time.
What's going on?
Hey, let's go on.
Uh, thank you, my friend.
I appreciate it.
Hey, to the idiots.
Now, do they think we Americans are stupid or what?
These parents are sending these children on their own over here in the desert.
And what where's the outrage of that, big time Sean?
I mean, just thinking me and you did our kids like that.
Just when I'm out there on their own.
Me and you be locked up like right now, big time.
I mean, what I mean, what is this fake media?
They ought to know better that we know better that they are fake.
And they not covering the story.
Look what you done done.
Look what your team had done.
Y'all done covered all ABC, TBS, MD.
Y'all done covered big time coverage, and they do not quit what y'all cover.
And they hey, they ought to be glad because November gonna be a big time hit for the Democrats and the Democrats.
People, um, I got a message right quick, big time Sean to the people of this country.
The Democrats never meant us no good.
They the ones that kept us from going in the school.
They never meant us no good.
They the ones that keeping these kids in this poverty.
They the ones and 14 had them kids in cages and the media trying to print.
But my problem is while Obama name is not mentioned and all this, and they're trying to blame it all on Trump.
Trump just got in the White House.
So this thing going all way before Trump, and I don't hear Obama's name nowhere in the deal.
And now they're trying to get everybody off of what we have found out about so-called Russia collusion.
You know it's been a while, so I'm rambling.
Uh, we know where the Russia collusion is.
Miller needs to call and close the case and open it up for the Democrat Party.
Now that would be the best.
Well, the House is talking about, I mean, look, Mark Meadows Meadows saying the FBI may have tampered with General Flynn's interview summary.
That's called a 302.
Now let me tell you something.
If that was tampered with, that is in and of itself probably one of the biggest crimes in all of this.
And to do it and literally to do this to entrap a general who served his country honorably for how many decades is so beyond the pale.
But you know, everybody's missing the big story, AJ.
The big story is that very simple.
Hillary was told to was subpoenaed.
They subpoenaed her emails, and she deletes them.
She acid washes, she busts up with hammers, devices.
Then you got high ranking people within the FBI that rig the investigation because she is their favorite candidate.
And they express a deep hatred, almost a violent hatred, if you will, towards Donald Trump.
We will stop him.
And we've got an insurance policy and on and on.
And then they turn their sights on Trump and they try to bludgeon him politically.
And that's what the Russia witch hunt is.
And they're even willing to lie to Pfizer court judges to spy on Americans in the campaign because they wanted to alter the outcome of an election.
This isn't Watergate.
This is 50,000 times worse than Watergate.
And your media is more concerned about a picture of a child that never was separated from her parents on the cover of Time Magazine and blaming Donald Trump for the very thing Obama did, as you point out.
This is where the country is here.
Oh, yeah, they're obsessed with what Melania wears.
You're right.
Yeah.
And hey, people, Obama had to know about this.
I'm telling all y'all.
It went from the top down.
It's just amazing.
Seems more like it like every day.
I mean, we learned this week That in fact, Christopher Steele was at the State Department just days before the 2016 election.
Did he get in the what did he tell John Kerry?
What did John Kerry tell Obama?
Who knew what, when, and where?
What did they know and when did they know it?
You know what?
And this is why I'm telling people the IG report is a first step.
We now have more information.
We're still fighting Rod Rosenstein.
Now we're gonna have a big fight over whether or not to hold him and and the DOJ members in contempt because they're not doing their constitutional duty or allowing Congress to do theirs.
If anybody in this audience dared to reject a subpoena by Congress, I promise you, you'd be handcuffed and you'd be put away.
And then I promise, and then you'd be fined a thousand dollars a day.
That's what the that's what the fine is, until you're willing to cooperate.
I mean, we got people there that should be gone.
Like you say it, me and you be gone.
We've been gone.
We'd be we'd be bunking together somewhere, you and me.
Big time AJ.
You know, I the only thing I worry about.
Listen, I think if there's no there'll be no better bunk mate in the country but you.
The only thing I'm worried about is you talking in your sleep and snoring.
That would bother me.
No, no, no.
There's no margaritas in prison.
Big time.
None.
You and I be in there you know, we'll be playing Pinochle together or bridge or whatever games people poker together.
Who knows?
Wait a minute, we have to do like a prison to get the bass seed and build it out.
All right, we've taken this way too far, way too far.
But uh big time, we love you.
Thank you, my friend.
800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the uh program.
Let's say hi to Sean is in Palm Beach down in uh Florida.
Uh, what's going on?
Uh WJNO, what's going on?
Uh Sean, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, fine, thanks.
Thanks for taking my call.
I just wanted to share a story about uh Charles Crosshammer, who I just have the utmost respect for, and the political world definitely lost a wealth of knowledge when they lost him.
Uh but a few years ago, I saw Mr. Crothammer at the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach.
By the way, that's like one of the nicest hotels in the country.
That's a real nice place.
Yes, it is.
And that is the day that I first learned that he was paralyzed.
And obviously he was in a wheelchair and he was sitting by the swimming pool in deep thought.
And normally I would go up to someone like him that I respected and admired, and I would say something, but he was in such deep thought.
I thought, you know what?
I'm not gonna bother him.
And by the way, he would have he would have been glad that you said hello.
Just you know, a lot of people think that, oh, I don't want to bother somebody.
It's it's not a bother, and I'll tell you why.
Because you know what?
We're in uh you have to look at this is a business too.
And you know what?
I view this as you are my customers, my my highly valued customers, and you I want to super serve my customers and exceed your expectations every day.
So and I know Charles the personality was he would have been fine with it, I promise.
Well, thank you.
But I immediately Googled to find out how did he end up in a wheelchair.
And of course, I read that when he was in college, he dove off a diving board in Saturday's spinal court.
And I thought to myself, wow, this man, first of all, instead of resenting something that he enjoyed that cost him the use of his legs.
He obviously just wanted to be close to a swimming pool, looking out at the ocean, and he didn't harbor that resentment.
That I mean, I have to say something like myself, Mike.
And, you know, I just thought, wow, this man is here by the swimming pool, and obviously he's probably remembering what he used to love to do.
And it reminded me also of uh Mark Buenaconte, the son of a professional football, former professional football player who used to do the same thing at the University of Miami football field.
He used to sit in the middle of the field in his wheelchair.
And you know, now I I like to think the Mr. Crosshammer is diving and swimming again.
You know, I will tell you this.
I mean, it's interesting you say that because I had the same thoughts as you in this sense.
Um I've been fascinated by reading life after life books or near death experience books.
Uh what's the name?
That Dan Piper, what is it, 90 Minutes in Heaven, Heaven is Real.
Uh, that move they actually turned the book into the movie.
I read both.
I've I've read numerous books on the afterlife, uh, or people that have had near death experience and you know, atheists or agnostics or or the medical profession, they'll tell you that, oh, it's just uh a psychological thing that people go through, but they all go through the same thing, or or just some variations on it,
where you know, all of a sudden your your entire life, all the memories come flashing back before your mind from when you were little, your whole life flashes before your eyes, and then the next thing you're in a tunnel, and then you see a bright light, and then people then describe different experiences where they see people that they knew in their lives that were on the other side, and they uh describe a a piece that you don't know on this earth.
They describe a sense of serenity that you don't know in this life.
They describe music on it's sort of like you know beyond four-dimensional.
It's like you can hear multiple um composing uh, you know, or songs and understand them all, but they're all playing simultaneously, and and that's how they describe it.
Or they describe specific conversations, or they describe coming back you know, when they came back, they didn't want to come back and they're being told you gotta go back.
It's not your time.
And you know, it's one of the reasons I did the movie that I did, Let There Be Light.
And there's a component of this in that book.
Um I'm sorry, in that movie.
And uh to me, I am just fascinated by the whole thought of it because I do believe in the Bible.
I do believe that this world is so vast, we can never comprehend the true majesty of God ever.
He's just way beyond our understanding.
Um, even though the Bible will say the very hairs of our head are counted.
And I I can't comprehend how amazing that is.
Uh, I do believe in the story of God sending his only son Jesus Christ to suffer, die on a cross for our sins for reconciliation.
Um I don't understand or have the answers to you know why this life isn't as hard as as it is for everybody uh at times.
Um but I do believe in all of that.
And I, you know, I yeah, I believe the way people describe past relatives and meeting relatives on the other side when they have these near-death experiences is that they are young again, and that if they had infirmities, the infirmities are gone.
And that would then lead to your point, which is yeah, Charles is, you know, uh has his legs back again.
And um, you know, it I I pray for that for everybody.
I mean, that would be uh the most beautiful ending to this life you could ever think of.
And I have hope that that's all true.
I believe that.
I hope so too.
Did you, by the way, did you hear what what I what I played last night?
Did you see what I played last night?
I picked a particular clip of me and Charles.
When he wrote his book, I like you did not know for a number of years.
They was in a wheelchair until I met him.
I'm like, I didn't know.
And not only that, and I said, I'm so sorry for not knowing.
And he and Charles laughed.
And Charles loved that story.
And I said, Well, it's embarrassing.
You tell the story in every speech you give now.
You tell the story at every dinner you go to, you told it in the book for the world to hear, and then we had a conversation about it on the TV show.
Here's how it went to hell.
And by the way, I love the fact that you you gave a speech one day and you told the story about me and all the years that we had known each other.
Go ahead, you can mock me on national TV.
I don't mock you.
You know, I'm always surprised that you're upset by that.
I am.
I think it's the it's the most charming story.
And as you know, I told it again on the special that Brett Baer did.
He prompted me.
He was sort of the provocateur there.
I said, you know, Sean doesn't really like it, but it's a wonderful story, and it just shows.
I mean, I like it because it shows how you know I haven't made this fact that I'm in a wheelchair uh sort of the center of my life.
And the fact that you weren't even aware of it, I thought was lovely.
So it was a way to compliment you.
Uh no, I listen, it it it's a it's a friendly story that we have between the two of us.
And you know, but the story is really inspiring.
The special was Fantastic, by the way.
And uh it's it's it's it reminds all of us that think we have problems sometimes that people are everybody has problems, and some people are struggling with some really incredible things, and your ability to overcome, I found inspiring.
So thank you.
He loved that I didn't know.
So he would love that you didn't know, Sean.
And I I because he didn't want to be defined by it.
Anyway, I appreciate your call.
Um, we lost an intellectual patriotic giant yesterday.
The only way I can say it, and what a life lesson and profile and courage his whole life was.
Godspeed, safe home, good and faithful servant, Charles Krabhammer.
We'll miss him.
All right, we'll take a quick break here.
We'll come back, we'll continue.
So we've got some of the most unbelievable audio tape.
Uh you know, when I said in 2007, eight journalism's dead, journalism's dead, journalism is buried.
I really, I don't even think I knew how right I was.
If you have any doubt about your news media at this point, you're just basically believing a lie.
It's sort of like everybody knows M. Scott Peck's book, you know, The Road Less Traveled.
But he wrote a second book called The People of the Lie.
That's a book people ought to read because you're being lied to, propagandized.
You know, it's mind manipulation every single solitary day, which is why they can't carry a Trump speech.
They can't carry it because everything they're telling their audience is about to be debunked if they actually ran a Trump rally, which puts them at a competitive, huge disadvantage.
All right, we'll take a break.
We'll come back.
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My nose uh roundup information overload hour.
Happy Friday, and we're glad you're with us.
Uh all right, before we get to our guests, we've got uh Kaylee McEnanny with us and Jeffrey Lord is with us.
Let me go back to the media, bashing, and again, we've now gone through all of the pictures of all of the children separated from their parents, which nobody likes.
In the Obama years.
Yeah, kids in cages and kids with like foil blankets and kids crying and all the things the media said.
Okay, it happened then.
There was no media outrage like there has been here.
We have clip after clip of Obama saying, I'm not an emperor, I've got to execute the laws of the land.
I don't have the authority to bypass and pick and choose what laws I want to enforce and not enforce.
In other words, and then he didn't sign the executive order was Donald Trump that signed it.
And Donald Trump, and by the way, it won't hold up in court, which is if you want the long-term solution, that means Congress is gonna have to do some work, and they seem to have no intention of of forging an alliance or a deal, no matter what the president gives or offers in exchange for wall funding, which solves the problem permanently.
He offers DACA, a DACA fix.
He offers to end the separation of parents and children.
He's offering it all.
But he's saying what's also fixed the problem permanently and the way we fix it permanently is simple.
Build the wall.
And this way we monitor, we control who comes across the border for the safety and security of our country and the American people.
And in the process, we have the added benefit that of crimes that are committed by illegal immigrants, that that crime rate then goes down to zero because they won't be in the country illegally.
Anyway, so here's your media bashing the president on the separation of children and their parents.
Just because the arsonist comes back and throws a bucket of water in the fire doesn't mean that they didn't start the fire in the first place.
It will leave an indelible stain upon the presidency.
Either that they are morally callous about this or that they are incompetent about this.
This is something that Erdogan would do.
This is something that Putin would do.
Thanks to the human order.
Instead of being separated, families from other countries will be locked up together.
Hopefully, starting with his immigrants, people come to this country are vermin.
That's what he was saying.
It's the language of white nationalist European splinterer, uh hard right, crazy town parties.
It's a combination of both white nationalist racism, making the policy and complete and total incompetent.
Why aren't these parents allowed to be with their children?
Why aren't they allowed to talk with their children?
Why don't they know where their children are on top of everything else?
And now we have the new report this morning that essentially, according to one expert that takes care of migrant, that toddlers are being detained.
What about the babies?
What about the toddlers who have been separated from their parents?
This morning, outrage mounting over President Trump's zero tolerance policy.
The president meeting with Republicans on Capitol Hill to discuss the immigration crisis.
We're going to try and see if we can fix it.
Thank you very much.
A group of Democrats taking the president to task for separating migrant children from their parents who crossed the border illegally.
Mr. President, don't you have kids?
Democrats are increasingly frustrated with the president.
This was a policy invented, implemented, and executed by President Donald Trump.
Mr. President, don't you have kids?
Don't you have kids, Mr. President?
As tensions escalated in Washington, a group of protesters confronted Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen as she ate dinner at a Mexican restaurant.
And family separation!
And kids don't eat in peace!
You don't eat in peace.
It's so hard to figure out what Secretary Nielsen was thinking.
Is she just giving a middle finger to the situation or is she just tone deaf?
You would think of all nights, maybe you might have Chinese that night.
You look at that and it just doesn't make any sense.
And then, of course, uh the the secretary, Secretary Nielsen is literally run out of a restaurant, chased by a bunch of radical leftists.
I mean, it's insanity.
Then you got, oh, now let's threaten a 12-year-old son of the president of the United States.
Uh let's talk about what sounds like rape of of Secretary Nielsen, and let's go after Donald Jr.'s uh four-year-old daughter, and I guess she's fair game by the left too, because the left that didn't say a word or utter a word when Obama did this, is now finally found their feigned outrage marker.
Because it's an election season, and this is what we get every two and four years.
Republicans are racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, and they want children to die.
They want to poison the air and water, they want dirty air and water, and they want to throw Granny over a cliff.
The same narrative every election season.
Uh Kaylee McEnaney is with us, author of The New American Revolution, the make making of a populist movement.
Jeff Lord, former political director in the admin uh Reagan administration, columnist, by the way, uh, the American Spectator, and uh also on Hannity.com, both survivors of fake news CNN, and we know what happened to them the other night.
They got called out by the crowd in Duluth, Minnesota, pretty strongly.
Uh Kaylee, how are you?
I'm doing great, thanks.
This is an incredible era where you just have this media misinformation campaign.
It's absolutely disgusting.
The vitriol, the threats of violence.
Uh, it it's disgusting.
We didn't see it under the Obama administration, and got it gosh, you gotta wonder, you know, is this timed um with the IG report?
They had to distract, so why not bring this up?
You know, that really is the IG report.
We have, by the way, uh, we have good news uh as it relates to the economy on every measure.
More jobs than people on unemployment.
Fourteen states record low unemployment, record low unemployment, Jeff, for African Americans, women in the workforce, Hispanic Americans.
Um, we've been and and what are the Democrats run on?
They want to impeach Trump, but they won't say it.
They want open borders, they want Obamacare, and Nancy Pelosi wants her crumbs back.
That's their that's their platform.
That's right.
You know, Sean, when I run around my uh locale here in the middle of Pennsylvania, I see repeatedly signs when I go into shopping malls and all this sort of thing.
There are signs in the stores that say, now hiring.
You can't get a better advertisement for an economic policy than that.
And the media is just gonna do everything they can to hide this.
And you know, we're talking about the dishonesty in the media.
The Daily Caller looked into this Time magazine cover of the president looming over this crying little girl, and what did they find out?
Lo and behold, this child was not separated from her mother.
She was asked by somebody with a border patrol or or iCE or whatever to put the little girl down because the mother had uh come in illegally twice.
That's a crime.
So they were gonna search the mother, so they put the little girl down, she starts to cry, and the officer says, Is she okay?
And she says, Yes, she's fine, she's just tired, etc.
They complete the mission, the child goes back in the mother's arms.
It was a complete and total lie, to the point that apparently time now feels they've got a you know, issue a bit of a correction.
But this is typical, Sean.
This is absolutely typical.
Beginning with a misrepresentation of those photos from the Obama era is something that was happening with Donald Trump.
You know, and it's no wonder, and now both of you have, as I said, survived working at fake news CNN.
You know, this now happens organically.
The president didn't lead the cheer, but it happens at almost every rally, and frankly, it could be any news, any news organization or so-called news organization, because they all do the same thing.
This so the president's talking about fake news, and this chant breaks out.
So we've created 3.4 million new jobs since election day.
Three point four.
And I've said before, if I would have said that to you during the campaign, those very dishonest people back there, the fake news.
Very dishonest.
They would have said he's exaggerating.
Siemens!
You know, you can't make this up.
And I just would imagine at this point that, you know, maybe maybe the news media would would just take a hard look and say, is our coverage biased?
I don't think they just doubled down on stupid because it's not working in terms of any type of programming model that that gets any mass audience, Kaylee.
Sean, they never learn.
Uh our former colleague, me and Jeff's former colleague, Brian Stelter, uh, over at CNN.
By the way, his name is Humpty Dumpty.
Okay.
We'll take that.
But uh he teaches.
He's Jeff Zucker's stenographer.
That is that is true.
And and he tweets, you know, as expected, the only cable news station carrying the Trump rally was Fox News and Fox Business.
Well, guess what?
As expected, Fox News got three million viewers, CNN got one million.
So trouncing them in the if I can toot my own horn, I got more than all of them.
I got 3.6 million, and they can barely break a million a night.
I mean, which is like four to one viewers.
And I think the reason they don't want to run it is because the president is basically calling out and telling their audience everything you're watching every day on what this channel is a lie, and they don't want to be called out.
I mean, imagine, you know, CNN, they're gonna run CNN sucks on their network.
That's right.
He's exposing their lies.
They can't take it, they don't want to air it.
Uh, he exposes them every step of the way.
You know, where was CNN outrage showing these pictures of these distorted images when President Obama was sued by the ACLU because children were sleeping under toilets and lost his facilities and he was lost.
And they not only that, there was a judge's beatdown in that particular uh ruling that came out against the Obama administration.
I pointed all of this out last night.
You're right, Jeff.
That's exactly right.
I I just I am just astonished that that CNN has has gone down this road.
You know, they put out a uh a book uh like uh you know, a glossy uh coffee table book of the election, and I contributed to it.
And so I took it around and got all of my CNN pals to sign it.
And Jeff Zucker signed it, and he said something in the effect that I was, you know, a huge part of their success in in the 2016 election cycle.
Well, of course, we know what happened to me, Cayley's gone, et cetera.
And I'm not just saying it's us, but I'm saying that this is part of a of a decision, a deliberate decision to just keep taking this place further and further and further left.
So now you get these instinctive chants from the audience when in a live rally, they understand exactly what's going on and why they do it.
I mean, I can only I mean I just think they're so obsessed with liberalism and being on the left that they will tolerate nothing else.
The thing is is that, you know, I'm all for obviously uh opinion programming, but two issues.
We've broken more real, real hard news in a year than they have in the last 15 years.
They don't break news.
All they do is offer liberal commentary, and they keep up a facade that this is somehow uh news when we know it's liberal opinion, Kaylee, and they just they they're just dishonest about the whole process.
No doubt.
I mean, Jeff can attest to this as well.
I remember going on air, you'd await the topic to be sent to you by a producer, predictable topic, always intent on demonizing the president, always trying to make him look like a racist or a xenophobe or a misogynist.
Every time the programming was by design to do this, I can count on one hand, Sean.
The number of times there was an entire segment devoted to Hillary Clinton's emails or to any of her scandals for that matter.
They just didn't want to cover it.
They were forced to briefly when Comey put out that letter, but they misled their viewers every step of the way.
You only got one version of the news.
If you're watching CNN and it was nowhere near the truth, and that's why the ratings have plummeted.
Just a third of Fox News, and you're repeatedly trouncing them every day.
I have a I have a column.
Jeff, hold on one second.
We'll come right back to Jeff Lord and Kayleigh McEnany is with us.
And as we continue Sean Hannity's show, and we're talking about all this media corruption and lying and disinformation and a double standard, especially on the issue of immigration, we have RNC spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany is with us.
Jeff Lord is with us.
Jeff, I cut you off as we were headed to break.
And you wanted to say, sir.
Yeah, I wanted to say I I've got a column coming on uh newsbusters tomorrow, and it's about a Washington Post story that they used the phrase that that Trump was quote unquote stoking racial tensions.
I just want to read you two sentences.
One from the actual from the story and one from what the president actually said.
The first sentence of this post story begins, quote, President Trump this week likened Hispanic immigrants to vermin, unquote.
Well, they put a link to the president's, it was from a tweet.
And what does the president say?
I'll read it to you.
It's show it.
Quote, Democrats are the problem.
They don't care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be to pour into and infest our country like MS 13.
They can't win on their terrible policy, so they view them as potential voters.
Unquote.
That's it.
Do you see anything about vermin?
Do you see anything about Hispanics?
Not a thing.
They made the whole thing up from scratch and then played the race card right on the front page of the paper.
This is what these people do all of the time.
And it's disgusting.
I mean, I think the picture of that little girl and the fact that they put that on the cover of Time magazine uh and said that about the president, and it turns out the girl's father is saying at no time was she ever separated from her parents.
It just it shows you the magnitude of how fake the news really is every day.
And the double standard and j just for example, they've never look at the IG report.
They barely talked about the biggest exposure and corruption in terms of a presidential election in American history, Kaylee.
They don't even talk about it.
They don't ever discuss it because their narrative has been wrong for a year and a half.
When does the when do the American people or when do they care enough about their viewers to say we were wrong?
Hillary did commit felonies.
Hillary did obstruct justice.
And by the way, the fix was in in the investigation.
And those same people turn their sights on Donald Trump in what was a the biggest political attempt at a takedown of a presidential candidate ever.
Sure, the story's extraordinary.
And if you're a CNN viewer, you don't know the name Peter Strzok.
You don't know the name Lisa Page.
You don't know the name Bruce Or.
I bet there are many CNN viewers who don't even know who Andy McCabe is because it is covered up repeatedly.
You have a major IG report.
We're all told to respect Michael Horowitz.
Well, the report's out, the fix was in.
We see it.
The text messages are there.
I want to stop the president, says Peter Strzok.
CNN doesn't cover it.
You know, brief mention, moving on.
Nothing to see here.
Let's concoct an immigration story on the border so that we no longer have to talk about what is the story of a century that your show is repeatedly broken news on night by night.
All right, I gotta thank you both.
Really appreciate it.
Have a great weekend.
Uh Kaylee McEnaney and Jeffrey Lord.
All right, 25 now until the top of the hour.
All right, it's Friday.
You know, these weeks are just one week after another.
Just amazing, incredible, nonstop, breaking news.
And you know, I was saying this to somebody, a Miss Linda Hoy.
How are you?
Happy Friday from Singapore.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday from Singapore.
Now you're going on a trip this weekend or something, right?
Indeed I am.
Where are you going?
I'm going to Arizona where it's 110 degrees.
The poor woman that called us the other day.
Jeez.
I'm like, you can't breathe.
I've been out in Arizona.
It's you know how uh Singapore was you walked out of the hotel in Singapore out of air conditioning, and literally Sweat starts coming off your body.
I was thinking we should send all the rhinos there.
They would fit right in.
That's true, swampland.
Yeah, that really is.
You know how they say that Arizona heats a dry heat.
It is.
It's a sauna.
It's the hot, but your hair looks amazing.
Exactly.
That's what I was thinking.
My hair would look amazing in Arizona.
Exactly.
Exact thing.
What are you doing in Arizona?
I'm actually going out there working on a documentary on the uh drug crisis in America and how that's why we need a border wall.
That's awesome.
I'm excited.
Uh anyway, so what was that as I digress?
These weeks are so full of news.
I don't think imagine, let's say Donald Trump's not president in 2020, God forbid, 2021.
Do you understand that there's nothing that will be less more boring than whoever takes his place?
Especially if it's Joe Biden.
Oh my god.
Oh, it would be it's even the news media would turn on them because they'd have nothing to do.
7-Eleven.
Dunkin' Donuts.
Unless you have a slight.
Slight in the accent.
It's a fully.
Jobs, J-O-C-C.
OB34.
The first sort of mainstream African American.
Yeah.
Who is articulate and bright and articulate?
Right?
Clean.
Nice looking guy.
I mean that's a storybook.
That storybook.
You don't get that very often.
What's that?
Unbelievable.
Crazy Uncle Joe.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Marty is in North Carolina.
Marty, hi, how are you?
And welcome to the program.
Glad you called.
Hey, thanks so much, Sean.
I caught your monologue or caught your comments yesterday about the opioids.
And I just gotta say that, you know, I love everything you have done for President Trump.
I think that without you and a lot of the other supporters, you know, he wouldn't have he wouldn't have gotten the.
Listen, Trump is Trump is his best advocate.
Trump won the election.
He gets all the credit.
And I think we were just all spokes in a wheel trying to help.
And I think, you know, uh I was talking to a guy that is uh extraordinarily conservative yesterday and goes, you were right.
He's more conservative than I ever dreamed.
I said, Yeah, tell all your other never Trumper friends to take a look at what he's actually doing and how conservative he is.
But it's not about, oh, who is right at this point?
It's about let's get the country right.
Let's solve the problems.
That's right.
And I and I'm ultra, I mean, I feel super conservative, but the thing I'm worried about is there with signing all these laws against the opioid doctors and the opioid users, the patients is what I'm trying to say.
We're getting punished.
I use them, I'm medically prescribed for them.
And my wife is medically prescribed.
And we are freaking out right now because what he's doing is making it where the people that desperately need them cancer patients, surgery patients.
No, no, nobody wants to slow down.
No, nobody, I've never heard a single person say that there's not a place for these medicines to help people that are genuinely in in significant serious pain get relief.
I'm not against that.
The problem is I am saying, and I the statistics bear this out.
I I was watching one of the documentaries, and it said that one Ohio town alone, you know, per capita, they you know, over the course of a year, if they're they're literally giving per capita 642 pills per person.
Now, I'm sorry, that's called overprescribing.
And look, I have too many friends of mine that are doctors, and people come in and you know, oh my toe hurts.
Uh my back hurts.
I really need uh I really need uh oxycontin, X number of milligrams, delayed uh release, blah, blah, and they give them exact the exact amount that they have uh that they want.
And it is in many ways unfortunately, it's a being abused.
It's I'm I'm not talking about cancer patients.
Um why do you need pain meds?
What what kind of pain are you in?
Well, I fell out of a helicopter in '93 when I was serving in the military.
Right.
And I've got jacked-up discs in my back.
And that, you know, I'm not one of I guess my body doesn't work the way some of these abusers do, because I I just get pain relief.
I don't get the euphoria in the warm fuzzy.
Okay, well what kind of pills do you take?
What are you taking?
Oh, I take oxycontin and oxycodone.
Okay.
Look, I can't uh obviously I'm not in your shoes.
And I know people, know people that have had the most severe, horrible back pain, and they don't ever get any relief.
I understand it.
It's, and I've had pinched nerves in my back, and I've thrown my back out, and you know, I'm training all the time.
My neck is in a constant state of pain, to be honest with you.
Um, I know I'm a pain in everybody's neck, but but it's um I just have a fear of I think a very healthy, natural fear of these drugs because I see I have watched these drugs literally destroy people's lives.
And smart, educated, professional people, and they end up, they get hooked on this crap, and then they're out, you know, searching the streets and they're paying 80 bucks a pill.
And in the case of kids, they don't have the 80 bucks a pill.
Well, they're gonna have one of their dopey friends suggest a bag of heroin, which gives more euphoria, but also uh creates a greater addiction, uh, perhaps lifelong, and literally every time they snort or shoot up, they're taking their life in their hands because they have no earthly idea where those medicines come from.
But uh, is there if you think that maybe the personal responsibility is to the person and I am saying that there's a responsibility paying 80 bucks a pill for my medicine, not for a high.
I listen, I I I would love to say that we don't have any responsibility and it's the individual responsibility.
I am saying that these drugs are literally targeted towards American children.
As a matter of fact, if you watch enough of these documentaries, and that's frankly all I watch when I watch TV, all you learn every time is that they are purposefully targeting these kids.
And I am saying that there is a such a severe addiction component to this that if we don't get a hold of it, our kids are gonna die.
Now, there's a medical reason for all of these drugs, but let's not over-prescribe them and let's understand how extraordinarily dangerous they are and how many lives are being ruined because of it.
And yet you have to see the whole the big picture here.
And the big picture is uh why do we want more availability of drugs that we know that's gonna create addiction and ruin lives?
There's not one person listening to this program, not one, I guarantee you, that has not been impacted by opioids in some way, shape, manner, or form.
It's either a cousin, it's a friend, it's their kid, it's their grandson, it's their, you know, their doctor, it's their lawyer.
Everybody knows it now.
It's not a game.
And so it's not.
And I I am saying to control it.
I'm saying that, yeah, people like you that have legitimate medical reasons for medicine deserve all the medicine you want.
Looks, I'm also a believer in this.
If let's say you've been given a uh diagnosis that you're gonna die in six months, and you heard about an experimental drug, and give give the president credit for this.
I thought it was a great idea.
Nobody paid a lot of attention to it.
The right to choose if you want to take a risk with your body and try an experimental drug that the you know FDA hasn't approved because you think it might cure you, then take it.
Who are we to say you can't take it?
That's ridiculous.
It's your life, and you want to if you think it's gonna help, and there's hope that it might help, go do it.
I don't blame anybody for doing that.
President Trump's been the best thing to happen in this country in years.
It's just the that one that one little thing.
Otherwise, well, let me just tell you something.
If you're telling me you take oxycodone and oxycontin, and you're not addicted to it, and you feel no euphoria, you're an exception, you're not the rule.
Because most people that I know people that have taken one Vicodin Percoset, OxyContin, and they're hooked.
So there's a real dangerous component.
Listen, I have a friend of mine that is a back and brain surgeon.
He will give you three pills, and that's it.
Three pills to get you over the surgery.
If you need any more, he gives you the name of a pain management center.
And he's not gonna have it on his conscience that people get addicted to those medicines because he has seen it over and over and over again.
I'm gonna see the I'm gonna see them tomorrow.
And I'm telling you, it's um it's insidious.
It's sad to watch these kids because the recovery rate, once you're addicted, is like 10%.
You can't get over those addictions.
Anyway, have a good weekend, And uh thanks for serving your country, by the way.
Sorry about your terrible injury and the pain you have to go through every day.
But nobody wants people to be in pain.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Uh, what a news week this has been.
I am going to launch something Monday on this program that's important as it relates to the most important midterm in our lifetime.
So just stay tuned.
Have a great weekend.
Uh, I'm out tonight.
It's our honoring of Charles Krauthammer and his passing and remembering him tonight at 9 Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
Have a great, great weekend, and I will see you back here on Monday.
