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You know, it's amazing that I have I don't know why in the last number of months I have people that I have known over the many, many years of my life that uh not that you know you just lose touch or whatever, gotten back in touch with me.
Uh one guy out in Santa Barbara, uh who knew me backpack back in the day, nearly 30 years ago now.
It was 30 years ago.
And he wrote me a note, he goes, There's so much urgency in the information you're putting out every day.
He goes, it just and you and a sense that you gotta get it all in.
He goes, Don't forget to pause.
And I said, Okay, I'll take a breath.
And it was said with the greatest of uh intentions.
I got to talk to Barry Farber the other day, my good friend, one of the greatest, smartest radio hosts in the history of mankind.
And uh the fact that I, you know, he he's he praises me, and I'm sitting there saying, Barry, what what are you doing?
Stop.
I I mean, I literally was glued as a teenager to the radio listening to Barry Farber, Barry Gray, waking up in the morning when I was in grammar school rambling with gambling.
Uh John Gambling is is a good friend of mine now, of course, generations of broadcasting, and I have so many friends on radio.
I I don't have many enemies.
I've never believed in any way, shape, manner, or form that my success is predicated on everybody else's failure.
That's that's a belief in a zero-sum game.
And I remember listening to Barry, and I was telling him this.
I said, Barry, I I would sit there, he was on late at night, I'd turn on the radio, and I'd never shut it off.
And it wasn't turn off the TV, and my house was shut that radio off.
And I'd shut it off, they'd leave my room and I'd turn it back on again.
Just like a good son would.
Um, and listening to all these pioneers of radio, and New York was in the forefront of it.
I mean, think about this.
Barry Gray, Barry Farber, names if you don't know them, you need to Google up some of their tapes.
Barry Farber speaks 35 or six or seven languages.
It's insanity.
He's just absolutely brilliant, a master of with uh in and wordsmith in ways that I I could never dream of of communicating.
And uh, you know, he'd say, go get your globe.
I'll explain the history of communism.
And I didn't have, you know, I'd go get it.
A globe or a map, whatever I had at the time.
And I sat there and I got an education.
Didn't know I was getting an education.
Never dreamed at that time, never did it once even cross my mind that I would ever have the opportunity to be on a radio program.
Never dreamed that I would be doing this every day.
So, in response to my friend in Santa Barbara, I'm pausing, but it's hard because this news cycle is fast and furious.
And for all these guys that paved the way, I'm extraordinarily grateful.
Because let me tell you something.
You know, think back when Rush started his syndicated program, it was 1988, and I was in Santa Barbara.
I remember when somebody first told me about Rush Limbaugh.
And I was in the radio studio of that college station in Santa Barbara that gets written about.
Hannity said this in his 20s, he's an idiot.
I said, Yeah, it was so embarrassing.
I felt yeah, I I was a dope.
And anyway, I remember you gotta hear this guy.
He does these homeless updates.
It's the funniest thing I've ever heard.
And, you know, he talks, he's talking about the the homeless people.
There's this massive fig tree on Highway 101, which is the, what do you call it?
The Southern Coast Highway or whatever, Pacific Coast Highway.
And uh and I just was fascinated, but he think about all that Russia had to do clearing the path, you know, for so many other people that followed, made it easier for all of us that followed.
And now look at it today.
In 1988, what we had 250 radio stations talk.
Now there's thousands.
AM FM band all over the place.
And it's the number one format and has been for what a couple of decades now in radio.
And I never thought I'd ever have the chance to do this.
Never.
Packed my bags after I got run out of town and you know, put it in the back of my contractor's work van, everything I owned.
Got hired over the phone for $19,000 a year.
Huntsville, Alabama.
Guy by the name of Dave Stone, who was a dear friend of mine who passed away a while ago.
And I still talk to his son as an amazing kid, Evan, and his wife Lois.
And Bill Dunavit.
I stay in touch with him.
I stay in touch with every one of my bosses I've ever had.
They've all helped me get to where I am.
They all opened a door when I didn't deserve it, I felt.
And they all accepted that I needed to grow.
Because, and frankly, that's actually missing a little bit in radio in some in a lot of different ways.
But I digress for a few minutes here.
Let me first, I'm not, I'll talk about it later with Geraldo and Jonathan Gillam, and we'll get into this.
I don't even know what to say about Samantha B. Now I've I maybe have seen online clips of this show.
It's so awful.
And she seems like an awful person, that I'm never going to watch it.
My quick perusal instincts tell me I'm not watching that.
Just like I don't watch a lot of shows.
And what she said about Ivanka Trump, the first daughter, is it just there's not words to describe.
But, you know, it's a very interesting time, and I stand by my principles that I'm not going to change.
My attitude is she hasn't been fired yet.
She's now since issued an apology after this tirade against against Ivanka Trump.
The first lady spokesperson has given out a statement.
The double standard is truly astounding.
Time and again, the Trump family and members of this administration are subjected to false reporting, hateful rhetoric, outrageous lies, all in the name of freedom of speech or comedy, yet the mainstream media stays silent.
We have talked a lot about Roseanne Barr this week.
But yet at the same time, that lunatic Keith Oberman was just hired by Bob Iger.
And you could just go look at his Twitter.
And I'm not, I don't, I'm not calling for Oberman to be fired or silenced in any way.
People choose.
If I happen to be flipping the dial and get to Sports Center or get to ESPN and he's on, I'm not just not going to watch it.
That's my choice.
That's my freedom.
You ultimately, as the listener and the viewer, have all the power here.
That's why I don't support boycotts.
I don't call for firings as repugnant as a lot of people's comments are.
And I there's just this, there's a coarseness.
I see it on social media.
I actually took Twitter off my phone.
I just said, you know what?
Um I'm not sending out a tweet that doesn't get vetted by two other people.
Usually Linda and Kristen and Sweet Baby James.
And I, you know, I just I and I used to love these Twitter wars.
I but it became another job.
And I just realized that I just it it took a turn.
I can't really explain it.
It was always mean.
I was kind of mean.
I love to fight.
I don't back away from any fight.
I like fighting.
I mean, the last one I guess I had was with Kimmel.
And by the way, Kimmel works at ABC for Bob Iger and Disney.
Alec Baldwin, Father of the Year, works for Bob Iger and Disney.
Keith Oberman works for Disney.
Al Sharpton works for MB MSNBC.
And we're just going to have to really.
You're going to have to decide here.
You know, because the line's always changing.
And I think the only answer is this.
Let the marketplace decide.
Let the public decide.
This is why I've always defended that idiot Bill Maher.
Says outrageous things, and I just don't watch your show.
I have the power not to watch it.
And everybody else has the same power.
And I um there's a risk here.
All right, we've got a lot of other things to get to.
We have massive developments as it relates to North Korea.
I'm going to get into that in a second.
Andy McCarthy is here today.
We've got a report how the FBI spy, according to the Daily Caller, uh, may have tried to plan a story accusing General Flynn of having an affair.
We're going to get to that.
And just so much more about how corrupt the media is.
Let me start with this, though.
The FBI's spying operation that seems, you know, so focused on exposing Russian election interference, not getting turned on the Trump campaign.
Well, these new allegations today are very interesting from the Daily Caller.
While working as a spy for the FBI, this so-called what everyone in the media is calling an informant, but he's a spy, acted as an unnamed source who tried to get at least three major U.S. newspapers to publish reports that former national security advisor Michael Flynn was having an affair with a Russian professor.
Anyway, a Russian British researcher at Cambridge University who studies the history of Russian intelligence said multiple reporters have told her that this spy that was infiltrated the Trump campaign, that nobody will call a spy, was behind allegations that she and Flynn had an improper relationship when he visited Cambridge in February 2014.
Flynn served at the time as a director of defense uh intelligence intelligence agency.
The FBI confidential, they say informant spy, invented a false story, which he passed on to official channels and the press in full knowledge that his personal attack was going to cause me and innocent party enormous harm.
So this is coming directly from the person that was supposedly involved with General Flynn.
She tells the London Times that this spy told reporters that he had been leaving seen leaving her leaving the dinner with Flynn.
Reporters from three newspapers, Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, approached this woman at around the same time in February and March of 2016 with allegations related to this so-called interaction with Flynn.
They were throwing around, quote, all sorts of things at me.
Love, sex, money.
Obviously, I reject them all.
She told the London Times about her interactions with reporters chasing the Flynn story.
I just want to add that I'd never been interviewed by any authorities, and clearly, if there were any doubts about who I am and what I do, I would have been interrogated.
And according to the journal, which was the only newspaper to publish a story on the matter, this woman did sit next to Flynn at a dinner and showed him uh a postcard that Joseph Stalin had sent in 1912.
Apparently a little off color in some way or revealing in some way.
The journal reported that the American authorities had been alerted to Flynn's interactions with this woman, and Flynn failed to disclose his contact with the researcher to the Defense Intelligence Agency.
The DIA official who accompanied Flynn to and from the event said he saw nothing at the dinner that warranted Flynn's disclosure of this interaction.
Anyway, it's since been revealed that this spy in the Trump campaign, a veteran of three Republican administrations.
This is the guy that went after Clovis.
And uh, of course, Carter Page and Michael Caputo, that uh he apparently involved in all of this thing, first raised concerns about this uh these interactions at the Cambridge event.
The New York Times reported May 18th that the FBI spy, which the newspaper didn't identify, but is now known to be this guy helper was alarmed by Phil's apparent Flynn's apparent closeness with a Russian woman who was also in attendance at a Cambridge seminar.
The concern was strong enough that it prompted another person to pass on a warning to the American authorities that Mr. Flynn could be compromised by Russian intelligence, according to two people familiar with the report.
Why didn't they ever go to the Trump campaign?
Why wouldn't they have told Carter Page and Donald Trump to this day have never met?
And if James Comey was so upset in the spring of 2016, why didn't James Comey go to President Trump and say, look, we're watching this guy.
He's associated with your campaign.
Simple.
Remember the most exculpatory thing in the Comey memo.
Trump saying to Comey, Comey's on what, oh, listen, I'm not involved with any collusion, but if anyone around me is, we need to get to the bottom of that.
Boom.
Case over.
Close up shop, Robert Muller.
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And when things eventually politically slow down, and maybe this president actually gets a year's worth of governance without a bunch of nonsense hanging over his head.
Imagine what he'd really accomplish.
I mean, they made apparently tremendous progress.
It looks like this June 12th summit in Singapore with Kim Jong-un is gonna go on.
Uh the president gave an interview to Reuters.
I'll I'll touch on that in a few minutes here.
But this is gonna be huge news.
Facebook, Google, Twitter, all of the social media now that has come to dominate pretty much everybody's life and is become an indispensable tool.
Yeah, but there's problems within all of that security issues, privacy issues.
Then there's the politics of these companies.
Latest example of this, the headline on the Drudge Report is Republicans Google.
Republicans are Nazis.
So here we are less than a week before the California primary.
Google listed Naziism as the idea as the ideology of the Republican Party.
And the knowledge panel that provides easy access to information next to search results.
Google listed Nazism as an ideology of the party.
The word Nazism was hyperlinked to a secondary page that shows Nazism alongside other ideologies of California Republicans and like conservatism, market liberalism, fiscal conservatism, and green conservatism.
Now, California voters have been casting casting absentee ballots for weeks ahead of next Tuesday's statewide primary elections, which is going to determine the majority of the House of uh representatives, the next potential governor of the world's fifth largest economy.
But voters looking for information, you search for California Republicans on Google or California Republican Party.
Yeah, Nazism shows up next to the search results, until, of course, Google took the listing down.
That was after an inquiry by apparently Vice News.
Oopsie Daisy.
Yeah, actually, we got the screenshot right here.
I'd love to show you, but it's radio, it's not TV.
Words, no pictures.
Uh, all right.
Now, major news on the president as it Relates to North Korea.
We'll get to that next.
And deep state gate, Andy McCarthy, Newt Gingrich in the next hour.
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You know, we never get to the good news.
Thanks, Scott Shannon.
25 till the top of the hour.
This is actually amazing.
It's going to be interesting to watch how it all plays out, but according to the Federal Reserve's Atlanta division, they're now predicting economic growth for the second quarter, which, you know, January, February, March, April, May, June.
They're predicting it would be as high as 4.7% GDP.
We're currently in the middle of the second quarter, so that's the growth rate that they're seeing now.
It can change dramatically, actually, but just something to keep an eye on.
Now their model estimate for real GDP growth in the second quarter, 4.7%, up from 4%.
And they're now casting second quarter real consumer spending growth increase from 3.2 to 3.4%.
I mean, if that happens, that's called an economic explosion, which we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan, which would be amazing for the American people.
I know for all you Trump haters out there, you know, for you to advance to where you want to go and to get power back in the hands of Democrats, that means the president has to fail.
And I think we've suffered enough after eight years of Obama.
I've given you those statistics enough, you have them in your head.
Other news uh I have known Dinesh D'Souza for a long time.
Interviewed him when he got out of prison, pled guilty in 2014 to violating campaign finance laws, sentenced by a federal judge, uh, five years probation, which included eight months of living in a community confinement center in California, required to pay $30,000 in a fine.
And the president tweeted out and followed up today is uh giving a full pardon to Dinesh D'Souza.
He was treated unfairly by our government.
Um I will tell you, with everything that we now know about campaign finance violations, there's such a double standard.
This all goes to Hillary Clinton, the Clinton standard of justice for her and her family and her friends, and then another, you know, justice system for the rest of us, you know, the common people, the little people.
Now, what's even more fascinating, so I went to this event, it was put on by the Hollywood reporter.
I don't go to events, and they actually said to me when I went to their event last year, they said, you know, we checked.
This is the first time in whatever 12, 13 years you've ever been to an event.
But they asked me in such a nice way, I said, you know what?
I'm gonna go for once after 13 years.
Remember, I went last year?
And I went.
And they couldn't have been nicer to me.
And then the guy, the literally the guy said, Wow, you have not been to an event.
We checked.
They call it these red carpet things in 13 years.
I said, Yeah, because I don't like them.
Very blunt with the guy.
Couldn't have been nicer.
They invited me back this year.
They put me on their this list that they put out every year about meeting people.
And I went back this year, and as I was going in, I ran into Martha Stewart.
And I think I had spoken to her once.
I remember the night either she was going to jail or coming home.
I think it was when she was coming home.
It was happening in my hour at nine o'clock on Fox.
And if you remember the Martha Stewart case, it was one of these cases, they can't get you on the underlying crime.
They get you about, oh, lying about the crime that they can't prove.
I have a problem with that.
A huge problem.
And I followed her case pretty closely.
And look, what do I know about homemaking and you know, very whatever.
And I said to her, I said, uh, you don't know me.
She goes, she laughs.
She goes, Yeah, I know who you are.
Uh, But I said, you know, I watched how you handled yourself during that period, and I thought you showed amazing grace and strength that I really admired in you from afar.
And I said to her, I thought you were also treated horribly and unfairly.
The president now said he is considering giving her a pardon.
I hope he does.
And I also mentioned Rod Blagoyevich.
We had done some interviews with him.
Look, I don't have a problem with pardons.
I actually like redemption and forgiveness.
And these people have spent Martha Stewart spent what?
Almost a year in jail, right?
It was like Denny Hastert was caught pulling out, you know, $9,900, which is below the $10,000 legal reporting limit.
Okay, so stupid.
You know, you take if you're gonna take out money, take out 500,000.
Don't take out 10.
Make sure they see it.
Because you want you know, otherwise, the government's like, okay, why are you taking out that amount of money?
So you're doing something nefarious, but they couldn't prove it.
Now it turns out that he was paying off somebody, I think he admitted to it, if I recall, you know, when he was a coach, he was abusing children.
But they couldn't get him for it.
But they did get him again on this other end of it.
And it's sort of like on the in other cases, it's it's like double jeopardy.
You get off on the federal side, but then you gotta take it on the state side.
We have some real problems as it relates to criminal justice.
Anyway, I I hope that the yeah, I'd like to see the president give Martha Stewart a pardon.
I just that was the extent of my interaction really with her.
What?
Why are you Clint Lawrence deserves a part?
Okay, I have said that repeatedly.
Christian Saucier got one, and he deserved it.
He was the one that took the six photos inside the submarine because he was proud of working for the United States Navy.
He kept them privately for himself.
Unfortunately, he lost his phone.
Instead of the slap on the wrist, which was what would normally happen.
No, they threw the book at him and put this guy in jail unnecessarily for a year, and the president rightly pardoned him.
I think he did great work on that.
The president we owe him a debt of gratitude.
No, nobody knows me anything.
I know.
Okay, I take it back.
Thank you.
No, thank you.
But in all seriousness, there are over 200 military men that are in military prison right now because they were constrained under the confines of the Obama rules of engagement.
That is what President Trump needs to be looking at.
No offense to Martha, no offense to Bogoyevich.
Okay, now just for the record as you now throw this at me.
I have talked about this more than anybody.
I know.
Anybody and that is when we're doing it.
You're welcome.
Nobody owes me a debt of gratitude.
That's nonsense.
All right.
You can't take it back twice.
It's weird.
Uh so the New York Times is now complaining, citing anonymous sources today who claim that the former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe wrote a secret memo after President Trump fired Comey.
And while not all the time sources agree, some of those sources are saying McCabe claimed in his mystery memo that the real reason Trump wanted to fire Comey was because he wanted to stop the Russia investigation, which of course the Times thinks is a major bombshow that proves obstruction of justice.
Well, first of all, it does not.
The president can fire Comey for any reason he wanted to.
He didn't even need a reason.
He could think he was too tall, dressed funny, whatever.
That he just didn't like the way he looked.
He could fire him.
It was under his authority.
So this is all nonsense fed to you by the New York Times.
Anyway, so we'll see.
You know, we have anonymous sources who don't agree here.
In other words, citing a mystery memo that nobody's seen, and written by a top FBI official who was fired because he lied under oath.
A lot of good that's gonna do.
Sounds credible to me.
Sounds like a typical media day.
Anonymous source, blow it up, hysteria, breathless reporting.
Everybody runs with it.
Never mind three days later, but don't admit you're wrong.
That's what we have now, that's what your media has become.
It starts, Washington Post, anonymous sources, 15 of them.
Blow it up into some hysterical moment in history.
We got him.
Got him.
I'm never mind.
No correction.
Nothing.
Journalism's dead.
Where did you first hear that?
Anyway, so New York Times.
McCabe's memo, one of several he wrote highlights the conflicting roles of Rod Rosenstein.
Now that's actually hilarious because we've been the ones saying he's conflicted out of all of this from the get-go because he's witness A as it relates to the firing of Comey because he recommended it.
Anyway, the New York Times goes on, he supervises the special counsel investigation.
Yeah, but don't forget he signed the fourth Pfizer warrant based on unverified, uncorroborated, bought and paid for Russian lies, uh funneled money through few for a law firm through Fusion GPS, paying a foreign national, Christopher Steele, and literally lying to Pfizer judges and not telling the judges who paid for it.
I'm getting to say that fast.
You know, I'm living, eating, breathing, sleeping this 24-7, so well, it shouldn't surprise anybody.
And there's a list on your left if you need it.
I know.
I saw the list of everybody that's helping us.
I know.
If I read the list, that's the end of the show.
It'll go to the end of the hour.
But uh many of the current former law enforcement officials suspicious of some of his other actions, including some of Mr. Trump congressional allies to view crucial documents.
There's a reason that they are not giving us the truth.
You know, think about Trey Gowdy yesterday.
I don't want to get back into this based on what I have seen.
I don't know what the FBI could have done or should have done other than run out a lead that someone loosely connected with the campaign was making assertions about Russia.
I would think you want the FBI to find out whether there was any validity to what those people were saying.
Yeah, why didn't you go in the spring of 2016 to Donald Trump and talk about somebody to this day he never met by the name of Carter Page and tell the Trump campaign we don't trust this guy.
We got an eye on him.
Be careful.
Why not?
Because they didn't want that narrative.
They didn't want they they never liked Trump.
Anyway, so apparently Trey Gotti, way ahead of his skis on this, implying that these documents presented at the top secret White House spy gate briefing basically debunked the spy gate scandal.
The problem here is this the media assume that Gowdy, what he said, based on what I've seen was referring to the secret spy gate documents that were presented at a White House briefing.
Molly Hemingway pointed this out in the Federalist today.
The DOJ, FBI, did not present any documents on spy gate to anybody at that meeting.
She said Gowdy recently suggested the FBI did nothing wrong when it used at least one they say informant spy to secretly collect information on Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Public reports indicate, however, that Gowdy never ever reviewed the relevant documents on the manner subpoenaed by Congress.
In fact, a spokeswoman for Gowdy told the Federalists that the Congressman doesn't even know what documents and records were subpoenaed by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
The briefing that Gowdy and other lawmakers attended was scheduled at the behest of the White House after the DOJ obstructed the subpoena.
They're still obstructing all these subpoenas.
They don't want to turn over the documents.
Because the last time they turned them over, it resulted in you know about how Pfizer judges were lied to in the bulk of information was Hillary's bought and paid for money funneled foreign agent dossier of Russian lies.
This is our country.
It's outrageous.
You people better get engaged here.
This isn't funny.
Gowdy intimated that the information he received briefing last week, the FBI did nothing wrong.
I listen, I want to trust the FBI too, but all I have to say is call me McCabe, struck page, and the list goes on.
I'm sorry.
Those people I don't trust.
I trust rank and file.
I don't trust those people.
They abuse power.
We have evidence.
Lying to Pfizer court judges and applications, the way they did is abuse Of power.
It's shredding your Fourth Amendment constitutional rights.
This is as serious as it gets.
And the same players rigging an investigation by exonerating Hillary before the investigation.
That's a problem, too.
And putting spies inside the Trump campaign and trying to spin it like their informants is just another cover-up and lie.
Yeah.
Oh well, it's only the United States.
By the way, Ted Cruz is now up by a double-digit lead.
I knew the media was wrong.
I got to get this in here.
Newt Gingrich at the top of the hour.
Andy McCarthy also in our next hour.
So the president gave an interview to Reuters as it relates to Kim Jong-un and uh this denuclearization deal that they'd like to work on.
He said in the interview on Air Force One, flying to Texas for some fundraising events, he still thinks that the June 12th summit can happen.
And then he said that I'd like to see it done in one meeting, but oftentimes that's not the way deals work.
By the way, I think that's very smart of him to say, and that's true.
Might take a couple of meetings.
There's a very good chance it won't be done in one meeting or two meetings or three meetings, but it'll get done at some point.
It may get done really nicely, really intelligently, or it may not get done intelligently.
It may be done the hard way, he said.
He said he believed that Kim Jong-un wants a deal, but I think it'll get done in a very smart, organized fashion, and that the North Koreans want it as well.
Listen, all I know is there's no more missiles being fired over Japan.
Guam's not being threatened.
The region's not on high-level alert mode.
He's not threatening the Continental United States as of the moment.
He crossed the DMZ and he released our hostages, and we didn't leave a penny in cash or other currencies to the tune of 150 billion like Obama did or Bill Clinton did.
And we've got nothing to lose.
The only thing we have to gain is a safer world for your children.
I think I'll take that position, and if it takes a few meetings, that's fine with me.
This is historic.
All right, so much to get to 800 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program, we'll get Newt Gingrich's take on uh the latest out of North Korea.
What was said about Ivanka Trump.
Pretty unbelievable.
And also, we've got the latest on Deep State Gate.
And yeah, spying within the Trump campaign that nobody on the left seems to be able to acknowledge or admit.
Same with the media.
That and more in your calls 800-941 Sean and Andy McCarthy next hour.
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All right, looks like the June 12th Singapore summit is back on.
We've got the latest in Deep State Gate.
The president pardons people and the media goes nuts.
He's sending messages, secret messages to witnesses in the Robert Mueller campaign.
It's absolutely insane.
As of next week, we're gonna have Newt Gingrich on Monday on this program as he releases his brand new book, Trump's America: The Truth About Our Nation's Comeback.
Oh, you mean basically everything the media doesn't want to talk about?
Uh Newt also has a a piece that is just devastating, entitled Why the Muller Probe is Really Five Scandals and Not One.
We'll explain all of this.
Uh first of all, I can't wait.
We get the first interview for the book, Trump's America, The Truth About America's Our Nation's Great Comeback.
I can't wait.
How are you?
I'm having a ball, and I have to tell you, it is amazing to watch what's going on.
I mean, don't you find the same thing that just you watch these guys, you realize how totally wrong they're in the New York Times today saying there were a thousand people when they now had to come back and admit they're at least five times, maybe six times that many people.
Every time I turn around, I'm watching the people on the left fall apart.
You know, it really is amazing.
I remember conversation.
Maybe I just I'm a little more high strung than you are.
I don't know.
Maybe it's the historian in you that gives you more perspective.
But I think I I remember one time in 2004, before the election, the re-election of George W. Bush, uh, we were actually sitting down and having a conversation, and I said, Look, they got to do this, they got to do this, they got to do this, they got to, And you looked at me very calmly, let me rant and rave like I often do.
And then you said, Well, if they don't do it, they're gonna lose.
Um the only problem here for me is that if we don't get this right, if we have a dual justice system for Hillary, if we're allowed to have spies inside of campaigns, if we have surveillance unmasking and leaking raw intelligence that is not fixed, if we allow Pfizer judges to get lied to, if Hillary gets to destroy evidence that's subpoenaed and it's not called obstruction, I think a good part of this country loses its soul.
Well, I think the whole country loses its soul.
You know, one of the things that has hit me, and it's probably because of a piece I did for my newsletter at Gingish Productions, which we also reproduced at Fox News.com, on the idea that there are actually five parallel scandals, not just one.
And after I wrote it and I thought about it for the weekend, uh it hit me, and I hate to say this because uh Jeff Sessions is a good guy, and I thought he was a very courageous senator, and I was with him, Clista and I were both with him in the very first meeting where Trump came to Washington as a candidate, and Jeff was actually the host, and I I in the many ways I like him so much.
But what I realized was when you look at the scale to which the system has avoided investigating the Clintons, it has avoided investigating the cover-up of the Clintons.
Um I just have begun to conclude that Attorney General Sessions simply is not capable of doing the job he ought to be doing.
Um I know the president's tweeted about this and talked about this, but for me, it's a it's a very painful and very difficult decision, and it goes back to your point, which is we're in a genuine national crisis.
We have a scale of corruption, a scale of dishonesty, a scale of dis uh of cover-up.
We have never ever experienced in American history.
You know, not a not the grand scandals of the 1860s, you know, not uh the problems with Watergate.
There's no example comparable to the depth and scale of the current scandal, and we have to have an attorney general who's actually dedicated to the truth.
So what is the answer?
For whatever reason.
Well, the answer already is going to be to replace Sessions.
I mean, and I and I say that a lot of Sessions wakes up one morning and decides to be the attorney general.
I I can't imagine, given everything I used to know about Jeff Sessions before he became attorney general, I can't imagine, given his values, how he could be doing this.
It's just it's astonishing to me.
And I don't like that lightly.
It's a piece of why I wrote the new book, Trump's America, because there's this huge underlying movement, much bigger than just Donald Trump himself, Of Americans who are saying, Enough, we gotta fix this.
We gotta get our country back, we gotta do the things that work.
And I think that sadly, tragically, I I would say truly tragically, uh, the attorney general doesn't seem to be capable of breaking through his staff and breaking through the Washington establishment and doing his job.
And as it's just I'm truly, and I I've spent a year almost two years now, thinking about it, trying to understand it, and I just decided, you know, it's time to speak up and say, if you're not gonna do your job, if you're not gonna be the attorney general, if you're not gonna follow the criminal trails wherever they lead, then you know, maybe you need to go home.
I I I I actually have the same feelings uh about Jeff Sessions as you do.
I mean, I've known him for years, always thought he was a good, honorable, decent man, and yeah, I mean I I I I uh I'm now at the point where I am stunned at what I can only see is paralysis.
And I I and and it's hurting the country.
I mean, this is the problem.
This is that this is ha this is consequential now in a mag in a way that uh exceeds anything that I can even compare it to.
Well, and I want to make clear to everybody who's listening to us.
You and I both like Sessions.
We both really think he's a decent human being.
We both wish this was not true.
Um, and it should tell people how deeply troubled we are.
Then it's I'll give you one example, which I just think is you've done this for a year and a half now, so it's amazing.
You take the case of the guy who bleach bit Hillary's hard drives who got immunity.
Okay, let's just tell her that.
You take that example and you compare it to how they've been treating the Trump people, and you say to yourself, why is it after almost two years of a sessions uh attorney generalship, we have not yet had released the decision documents that explain to us how they could have given this guy immunity.
Are they crazy?
I mean, what what are they doing?
And I could go through 30 examples like this where you just think to yourself, these people are nuts.
And yet we have not seen this has nothing to do with him recusing himself over the Russian campaign issue, which is if you think about it, a very tiny narrow issue.
I mean, he can say, Yes, I'm recused on that.
Now let me go over and look at this.
Nothing recuses Jeff Sessions from looking at this question.
How in the devil could you have possibly given uh immunity to a guy who bleach bit these computer parts.
It's worse because they were subpoenaed.
It's worse because there was a deletion beforehand.
It's worse because uh no one ever heard of bleach bit, which is basically acid washing your computer, and and hill Ed Henry, I guess famously now asked her, What you you know, do you did you clean your computer?
Did you wipe it clean?
And she goes, like with a cloth?
I mean, it's it's so spectacularly, you know, uh I'll play it for you because it's so spectacularly Clintonian that it's almost it it almost puts her husband to shame.
Did you wipe this earth?
What, like with a cloth or something?
I think no.
Like with a cloth?
I mean, so cavalier, but also the aides were told to to break up with a hammer, blackberries and iPhones.
I mean that to me is straight on obstruction of justice.
I if I did it, would you have to visit me in jail.
Well, one of the reasons in in my recent uh newsletter in Fox um news.com piece that went back to the idea of five different scandals, is you have to go all the way back with Hillary to 1978, 1979, when she invests a thousand dollars in cattle futures, and she makes ninety-eight thousand dollars.
Now the Wall Street General did a study and said it was literally statistically mathematically impossible for that to happen.
It was called yeah, we all know what it was.
It was called fraud.
Uh, she was given insider information, she was held by the hand by somebody who took care of her.
Uh she made money because she was, you know, married to the next governor of Arkansas.
But but the deeper point here is they have been doing this, and they mean Clintons have been doing this and getting away with this for 30 years.
Let me give you my Yeah, let me let me give you a little bit of my Irish heritage and background.
I know we always uh you know, and uh there's always this pessimistic side of me.
And and but this time when I think, you know, think of Chuck Schumer saying, Oh, don't take on the intelligence community.
They'll get you eight ways in Sunday.
And you have so many high-level people and so much abuse of power.
You know, I uh look, I have known you for so long, and there have been been times where you've looked at me and shaken sh you know, you're shaking your head thinking I'm gone off the rails.
I I'd I wish I was wrong on a lot of what we were put, you know.
We started this endeavor in on March 7th of 2017 when we broke the story, Sarah Carter, John Solomon, that in fact FISA Uh surveillance had taken place on on Trump Tower.
Now a lot of details were remaining, but now we know it's all true.
All of it.
Now it's spies in the campaign, but nobody will call them spies.
They're just no, no, no, no, no.
They're uh whatever they call them.
Um they're just respondents or whatever.
Informance.
Yeah, right.
And don't lie, you have shaken your head at me a few times thinking I'm nuts.
You have you've looked at me and said.
Look, I think twice in your career, you have been ho so historically prescient that it's amazing.
Once was in 19, uh rather in in uh 2008, when you understood before anybody else in America that Barack Obama was a radical, and you tried to explain it, you tried to lay it out, you were totally right, uh, and and you couldn't break through.
And I have to confess, I was one of the skeptics.
And the other was Do you remember hang on?
Do you remember what you told me in as a friend?
Do you really mean uh you know, early on, you said you you're blowing up your career.
You're done, you're gonna you're gonna die on this hill.
Yeah.
I was wrong.
No, no, no, but I didn't stop.
I can't stop.
It's not in my DNA to stop.
Oh, you're funny.
Yeah.
Uh and you and you are right, and the truth is you you I think in the long run you will change history because I I I have this naive romantic belief, uh, and it's something I try to explain in in my new book, Trump's America, that the fact is we are a romantic country in which most Americans really believe in idealism, and they really believe in the rule of law, and they really believe in the Constitution.
And in the end the truth comes out, and when the truth comes out, uh these corrupt figures in the left are just all going to be destroyed, and their role in history is going to be truly sad.
All right, take a bird.
We'll take a break, we'll come back.
New Gingrich with us.
He'll be with us Monday for the full hour.
Uh his uh soon to be released book, it's released next week.
It's called Trump's America, The Truth About Our Nation's Great Comeback.
You can order it right now.
We'll put up a link on Hannity.com, and uh you can get early copies of it.
Make sure you get it on day one.
Um you know, no one seems to understand this president.
Newt Gingrich does.
All right, Newt Gingrich is with us.
He'll be with us Monday too for a full hour.
Uh brand new book coming out.
Very I'm excited.
Um, Trump's America, the truth about our nation's great comeback.
That's not a story the media will tell you.
Let me uh just give us a headline.
You you know, I was there em seeing your event in ninety-four.
Ronald Reagan brought me to politics, and and that was that's history.
The contract was hit was history.
And you're gonna argue in this book because you gave me a little bit of insight ahead of time, sneak preview, if you will, that this is like a third wave of following Reagan following the contract.
Is that a good way to characterize it?
I think that's right.
I think what people need to understand is this is a wonderful intersection of Donald J. Trump and the American people.
And it's the combination of two.
It's it's not just President Trump, but it's also not just the American people.
It took this unique, extraordinary, combative and remarkably smart leader working with the majority of Americans to begin to create the scale of change we're now seeing, which I think is historic.
As a historian, I would say this flatly, it's historic.
It is, I think, gonna put the country back on the right track.
And you know, last year I wrote a book called Understanding Trump, which is focused on him because he was so remarkable, so unique, so new.
But I began to realize during the course of the year that that understates the scale of what you and I are living through.
And you know this, of course, because of your vast audience and your many friends, that there's just this enormous underlying wave of people who love America, they love freedom, they love prosperity, they love job creation, they love the idea that we should be strong.
I'm I'm short on time.
Is my fear that there's a lot hanging in the balance here because they want to kill him?
Am I is is that a justifiable fear, or am I, you know, you're you're looking you're totally right.
This this is the greatest tension since the civil war.
The people who hate Trump hate him at a level of bitterness and deepness that's almost unimaginable.
Pathological caught right now in a magic moment, and you see this on the elite media, you see it in the academic community, you see it in the Hollywood crowds.
Everywhere.
All right, let me let me plug the book.
You'll be on Monday, Trump's America, the truth about our nation's great comeback.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Andy McCarthy next.
You know, I'll say this about Gowdy.
Mr. Gowdy, I worked at Maine Justice.
You never worked there.
You were a U.S. an assistant U.S. attorney.
I'm sure you were the best assistant U.S. attorney the world has ever known.
But the FBI has done stuff in this case that I've never seen.
In the years that I worked at the Justice Department as chief of staff to the attorney general.
And I'm not the only one.
Was there a five?
That is not a term I've ever used in the criminal justice system.
Undercover informant.
Hey, genius, genius, genius.
It is a counterintelligence investigation.
It was not a criminal investigation.
Hello, Trey, former federal prosecutor.
That is a word that they use, however, on the counterintelligence side of the ledger.
And it was a counterintelligence investigation.
FISA is not part of a criminal investigation.
It's part of a counterintelligence investigation.
The informant, a word that you do use, spy, a word you don't use, spy is often used in counterintelligence investigations.
Go ahead.
Those are all words I'm familiar with.
I've never heard the term spy used.
So when the president says spy gate, that's not a good idea.
No, no, but what does it mean he's never heard the term spy used?
Is this a joke?
Is this a joke?
It's the proper nomenclature that people like me and others who have heard the term used apply to somebody who is used by the FBI or another federal department or agency to spy on other individuals and provide information to the government.
Well, I've never heard that used in the criminal justice context.
We're not talking about the criminal justice context.
We're talking about this guy sits on the damn intelligence committee, and I have to educate him.
No wonder he's retiring.
Yes, now I'm going to go on to bigger and better things, you know.
I don't know what else the FBI could have been.
I just don't know.
Interview Mr. Papa Douglas.
And be done with it.
And the word spy, Mr. Gowdy, is used in the espionage world in the counterintelligence world.
And that's where this began, Mr. Gowdy.
Mr. Former Federal Prosecutor.
And that's the whole point.
Informant is used in the criminal context.
Spy is used in the espionage context.
And Mr. Halper, excuse me.
Professor Hopper would not have been in and around the Trump campaign gathering information, but for the fact he was working for and paid for by the Obama administration and working directly for the FBI.
All right, 23 now till the top of the hour, 800 941 Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
That was the great one, Mark Levin.
He uh sounding off loudly on this whole Trey Gowdy issue and how wrong he is, as you know, we've been pointing out here.
Andy McCarthy has been doing a phenomenal job on all of these issues on National Review online, and and he's been discussing this among other things, including, yeah, the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign, was spying on the Trump campaign.
Uh Andy McCarthy, National Review Online, is with us.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Sean, except Mark hurt my feelings when he said that uh Trey Gowdy might be the greatest federal prosecutor of all time.
I uh I I'm I'm just I don't know what to do with myself here.
Uh well, let's remind everybody your background.
I mean, you you've done amazing work for the country, and um, you know, you're involved in the blind shake case.
I've if I'm not uh wrong, the the first Trade Center bombing and all these other really high profile cases and winning, I think all of them, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, th those are the good old days, but it's long going far away.
I I appreciate uh talking to you though.
All right, let's talk a little bit about Gaudi and then let's let's move on from there about everybody trying to tell us, oh no, there are spies in the campaign, but they're not really spies, they're just informants.
Yeah, well, Sean, I I pick up the New York Times this morning, and there's this big story about McCabe, right?
Um in the second paragraph of the story, it talks about how um Comey firing is the central focus of the special counsel's investigation into whether Trump tried to obstruct the investigation into his campaign's ties to Russia.
So um it's sort of like depends on day to day.
So when they when they decide that uh you know it's important to stress that uh the investigations about Trump having ties to Russia, that's the that's the spooky story we've heard for two years, right?
Now we find out that they're doing all kinds of counterintelligence tactics and breaking the norm where the incumbent administration is really not supposed to use these powers to investigate its political enemies.
And when you ask them about that, they say, investigation of Trump ties to Russia, what Trump ties to Russia?
What could you be talking about?
So it's a little bit dizzying.
Um, you know, as you look at this whole case here, Andy, look, I I've never seen a bigger abuse of power case in my life.
I have, to me, this is a real threat to the system of justice to our constitution.
And and by that I mean we know Hillary violated laws.
We're supposed to have equal justice under the law, equal application under the law.
Uh we know what the espionage act is all about.
Um I think if I hired you as an attorney and I was being charged with obstruction of justice, and you had to defend me against deleting 33,000 emails, asset washing my hard drive and having aides bust up my blackberries, I think you'd have a hard time defending me, I'm guessing.
I don't know.
Um then you see all of the anti-Trump people involved at the highest levels of the DOJ and the FBI, and you see the the struck page memos, which you've examined in detail, and then you see this faulty timeline as it relates to the investigation into Russia,
and that leads to FISA abuse, uh Pfizer warrants being, you know, handed out based on what are paid for lies by Hillary Clinton put together by a foreign national with funneled money through a law firm through G Fusion GPS, and there's real Russian propaganda to manipulate the American people, but also to get a warrant on an American citizen, and it wasn't just one application, it was three subsequent applications.
To me, that's abuse of power.
Yeah, I think there's been uh pretty massive abuse of power, Sean, and and at this point, the only thing that we can really uh safely safely rely on and I and I think have to demand is is transparency and disclosure about it.
And uh I I feel that sort of very personally because at a number of junctures in this escapade, I have told people that certain things that have happened could never happen.
Like when they when we first heard that they may have used a steel dossier to go to the Pfizer court, uh, and when I was asked about that, I said, you know, what are you out of your mind?
The government is not going to take uncorroborated information.
I'm not even sure if we knew at that point that it that it was sponsored by the Hillary campaign, but just the mere fact that it was third and fourth hand hearsay from unidentified sources.
I told people, you know, look, the FBI is gonna do what the FBI does.
They're gonna scrub a few of the facts that they think will be helpful for them for a Pfizer application, and you will never even hear Steele's name because they will have buttoned that up and made sure that it's completely corroborated before they present the R. Isn't that part of the FISA law, Andy?
Well, it's part of their um it's it's FBI protocol, but it's also the law.
You you can't go to a judge and present a judge with unverified uh uncorroborated information paid for by the opposition party, not tell the judge that that's the case.
And remember, in that interrogatory in Great Britain, Steele himself said, well, no, no, that's raw intelligence, maybe 50-50.
Well, Sean, two things.
Number one, to satisfy the the standard to get the warrant, you have to show probable cause.
And sometimes you can get probable cause on a single witness if the witness is credible enough, but that's highly, highly unusual.
Usually you have to have corroborated information.
And if you are aware that you have presented information to a court that is not credible, like your witness has lied, or there's bias behind the in this case the dossier that you know somebody has a motive to lie, that stuff all has to be disclosed to the court so that the court can weigh that.
Um and that's really what the law is.
I've never heard of a uh of a situation where uncorroborated, unidentified information gets brought to a court, and what the government says is that they believed the agent or the or the guy who pervaded the information.
Because what a judge wants to know is the people who saw and heard the things that you say make out probable cause that somebody's an agent of a foreign power.
I want to know who those people are and why I should believe them.
Don't tell me the agent is credible.
Isn't that like the the whole issue of Michael Isaacov using the same source to make it appear like they're separate corroborating sources to the same story and you know and and the Grassley Graham memo, the bulk of the the bulk of the application came from the steel dossier, and you know, this mysterious reluctance and resistance of Rod Rosenstein and the DOJ to hand over, uh subpoenaed information.
I I last time I checked, we had separation of powers, coequal branches.
Congress has uh constitutional oversight responsibilities and they're not cooperating.
Yeah, Sean, I was a prosecutor for twenty years.
I've never heard of trying to corroborate a witness with a press story.
I mean, you know, in in it it's pretty basic investigation one oh one that what happens here is the FBI goes out and does an independent investigation to corroborate things so that the FBI can prove them.
Not that they've been, you know, spouted in a newspaper by a journalist.
And I I'm not taking a shot at Isakoff, he's uh you know, he could be a perfectly fine reporter, but but his source was Christopher Steele.
And they they presented it.
We know that right, we know that now, but my point is in a normal situation, you wouldn't even think of trying to corroborate something with a press story.
Mm-hmm.
Now, let me let me go back to this mysterious reluctance and resistance as I call it.
Uh we know that Rod Rosenstein begged Paul Ryan, uh, coming up to the final hours of uh subpoena that had been given.
That led to what we now know of all of this Pfizer abuse and the reluctance to release, and I've been told by my sources that if they if certain documents are released, this whole narrative about Russia collusion, this this deep state network that I and others and yourself have discussed blows up in their face and they're using they're they are literally absolutely obstructing Congress from doing
what is their constitutional authority.
How do we fix that?
I don't think uh I I think the way you fix it, unfortunately, is by continuing what's gone on here, which is that Congress can't be uh intimidated by the media and all this chatter about how they're destroying these institutions.
There's nothing more frightening in the history of governments than a government that has police power that's not accountable to somebody, and in this system in particular, uh accountable to the sovereign, which means to the people's representatives.
Congress created the Justice Department.
They have an absolute right to conduct oversight and they have to keep trying to conduct it, which means they have to keep demanding these documents.
And I would point out to people every time they have told us, and I I'm particularly sensitive to this because I did this kind of work.
We do have to be very careful about national defense secrets and uh sources of intelligence uh methods of getting intelligence.
But every time they tell us, if we tell you this, the sky is a very important thing.
Oh, by the way, they've they've they've been caught lying and using national security uh as a means of redactions that turn out not to be true, like in the case of Comey, well they redacted the part where Comey didn't think that in fact General Flynn lied.
Um I don't mean to interrupt you.
We'll qu take a break.
Andy McCarthy, more on the other side.
This is the Sean Hannity show.
All right, as we continue, Andy McCarthy, he's with NRO online, he's been doing masterful work and and uh his background as a prosecutor.
You were in the Southern District of New York.
Is that true that the show billions is based on the Southern District?
I'm embarrassed to say sure.
I've never seen the show, but I have heard from people that that's that's hilarious.
I love the you gotta watch this.
Go start from the beginning.
It's a great show.
Let me ask you about um I think we we are now seeing A rogue group of people, not rank and file FBI, CIA intelligence people, but the the struck the pages, the McCabes, the Comeys, Loretta Lynch's even, and others that that abuse the powerful tools of intelligence.
Spies in the Trump campaign, lying to Pfizer court judges, not fixing it as you mentioned in the last segment.
And then I go to what what Judge Ellis the Third said about the manaphor case.
You know, really?
A 2005 tax fraud case?
Let me see.
Is this so you can put the screws to him?
So he'll sing or maybe compose because you want to either prosecute or impeach Donald Trump.
Is that what's happened here?
I would think so.
And look, I I'm not totally against that.
I have to tell you, I've put the screws to to plenty of people.
It's part of what you do in a uh a normal prosecution setting.
The problem with it here is what you allude to in in your beginning description of that, and that is that the FBI and the Justice Department got enmeshed in the politics of the 2016 election.
So it appears that you know virtually everything they've done is policy.
So you're you're gonna you're gonna go after Donald Trump by putting the screws to Paul Manafort who worked for him for like three months, and you're gonna drag up a 2005 case that has nothing to do with Russia as a means of putting the screws to him so you can impeach a president.
And you're gonna put spies inside the Trump campaign, but only the Trump campaign.
Sean, if I thought that there was strong evidence that a political campaign was involved with espionage with the Russians, uh I would use every single one.
Why wouldn't they have why the president never met Carter Page to this day?
Why not in the spring of 2016 go to Donald Trump and say, hey, we're worried about this guy.
Don't misunderstand me.
I'm not saying that that happened here.
What I'm saying is if there was a good basis to believe that there was an espionage conspiracy between a political campaign and an enemy of the United States, yeah.
I think everybody would say we need to use every tool we have to to ferret that out.
If they don't have that, then what they're doing is political.
And do you believe it's the latter?
I gotta run.
Do you believe it was political spy?
Right now, the evidence certainly is tending in that direction.
Yeah.
All right, Andy.
We need disclosure.
Uh yeah, that's what they're avoiding.
Good reason, I bet too.
All right, Andy McCarthy, thank you.
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Ivanka Trump, who works at the White House, chose to post the second most oblivious tweet we've seen this week.
You know, Ivanka, that's a beautiful photo of you and your child, but let me just say, one mother to another.
Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless.
He listens to you.
Put on something tight and low cut and tell your father to stop it.
Tell him it was an Obama thing and see how it goes, okay?
We'll be right back.
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All right, that was Samantha B. She has apologized for the words she said in light of the issue with Roseanne and and her comments and her being fired, and then of course we got ABC and of course Jimmy Kimmel's on every night.
And uh in the era of me too, I mean some of the creepiest uh uh disgusting, despicable video so-called comedy skits I've ever seen.
And yeah, there he is, Father of the Year, Alec Baldwin.
He also works at ABC along with Kimmel, and uh then on top of that, then we got Keith Oberman who was just hired, and you know, Keith tweeting out president Nazi this Nazi that.
Uh really we're gonna use the C word against the daughter, the first daughter of the United States of America.
And nothing has happened yet.
Anyway, joining us now, Geraldo Rivera's best-selling book is uh out, the Geraldo Show.
Jonathan Gillam, author of the newly released best-selling book, Cheap No More.
Thank you both.
Geraldo, let's start with you.
Uh does an apology cut it.
Um I'm listening I'm steadfast, and I say I never support boycotts or firings because people have a choice.
Uh, you can condemn horrific remarks, which we have done when we we hear them and see them, but there seems to be you know a double standard that's pretty acute.
I think that what she said was low down and dirty.
To call any woman the C word is tantamount to calling an African American the N-word.
Some things cannot be uttered uh in our society for the our society to be sustained and to and to thrive and to live.
Uh it is it is absolut I'm so angry.
Uh, you know, I have a lot of problems with attorney general sessions, zero tolerance pol policy at the border, and children may be separated from other undocumented parents.
Having said, You did see the pictures from the Obama years, right?
Of people in cages.
It it be good.
They called uh President Obama, you may recall the deporter in chief.
Uh, but to blame Ivanka in a way that is so vicious and is so uh absolutely beyond the pale is inexcusable.
Now, should she be fired?
Uh should her program be boycotted?
I I leave that to someone else.
I like you believe the marketplace can speak for itself.
But I think that this deserves absolute condemnation from everybody.
I'm glad she finally apologized.
But I think that uh I think the lesson that should be learned over the last couple of days is that even in the name of humor, there is a line you may not cross, Sean.
This wasn't funny.
You know, I mean, that's the whole point.
Um what's your take, Jonathan?
I I tried to watch that show, Samantha B show once just to see what it was about, and it was like watching cable access, first of all, so it's bad quality.
But let me let me just say I'm I'll reflect what Geraldo said, and and um I watched a show the other day called Silicon Valley.
I've watched every episode of that show.
It's on HBO.
But the and it's all about Silicon Valley, and it's about these tech companies uh which are closely related to uh the the media moguls and their mindset and their ideology and the Democratic Party and their ideology.
And they did a whole episode on how uh a gay guy was wanting to start a uh an internet site on the in this this new internet they're coming out with, but he was a Christian, and he got outed as a Christian, and how he nobody was gonna use him anymore in Silicon Valley because he was a Christian, and the whole show was bashing Christianity.
I know it's a big way, Joy Behar, who compared uh Christianity to mental illness, uh she also works for Bob Iger over at ABC.
I mean, Bob Iger's got a uh literally uh a talent uh a treasure trove to use a Disney phrase of uh talent over there.
Really talented people.
Yeah.
Well, the the the but the point with that and with this Silicon Valley show is the fact that we're not looking at moral outrage when we see what ABC did with Roseanne.
I I disagree with what Roseanne said.
Uh I I if ABC wants to fire her and cancel the show, they they're a company.
They can do that.
But we're not looking at moral outrage.
We're looking at an outrage of people who uh when somebody says something against what they believe politically, it's not moral, and there's a huge difference there.
I look at Haraldo, I look at Rick Unger, Danielle McLaughlin that comes on.
I look at people like that with moral integrity.
But these decisions are not made based on moral integrity.
They're based on a hatred of anything conservative.
And that's that is the basis of why you don't see the firings of the leftist people on these uh networks saying things and and like denigrating uh Christianity and things.
You don't see them fired.
You do see, however, if a conservative makes a mistake, they're gonna be gone.
And Bill Meyer has said things just as bad as Roseanne.
Uh button and Samantha B. And Samantha B, but they don't get fired.
It's because they are liberal.
And uh and the people that are conservative that say things that should get them fired, they get fired.
And so it's not coming from a from a level of moral integrity.
You know, I I have always been a staunch advocate of freedom of speech, and I also have faith in people, Haraldo.
In other words, if something everybody has choices today.
And if you're offended by a program, and I I think in some cases people feign moral outrage.
I I don't think people are feigning it here in in this case or in some of these more recent cases.
I think it's real.
And I just think but there is a choice at the end of the day, and the power is in the hands of the consumer.
And there's such a concerted effort and millions and millions of millions of dollars being spent to silence conservative voices.
I think it's a very dangerous slippery slope for those that support and demand boycotts, firings, etc.
Look, every company's got to have their standards.
Bob Iger to me is gonna have to explain how he keeps Keith Oberman and Alec Baldwin and Jimmy Kimmel and fires Roseanne because all of them have really serious issues, in my view.
Meaning the the people that are working there still.
To the to the point that both you and Jonathan make that conservatives get hit harder when they slip, when they make a mistake, I agree with it.
I am not a conservative.
But I think that that's where your idea that you spoke about last night on the air has such power.
A coalition.
If if the center and the right unite, it is just as powerful as the left.
The left dominates the media.
But if moderates and conservatives can stand together to say that one rule fits all, that if there is outrage against uh a rightist who says something that's out of line, I want that similar outrage and a similar reaction if a leftist says it.
There's there's no doubt but that the the and it's my 17 years at Fox has made this so clear to me that there is a uh a skewing.
Like right now I'm looking out at Sixth Avenue, uh, my office here at Fox News, and I look at By the way, Haraldo has the biggest office of Fox News.
You have the same exact open.
Uh the uh on the other corner.
There's NBC, there's CBS, and you look down media alley here, and this building stands alone.
The media is totally stacked and toward the progressives.
That's why there was such utter disbelief when uh President Trump was elected in November of 2016.
But if we stand together, if we say one rule fits all, that if she goes, he goes.
Uh I think that that's the way to do it.
But I also believe that the market has a a wonderful way of of weeding out the miscreants.
You know, after a while, the the foul speaker, the the evil doer will be outed.
Uh, you know, I I think that Keith Overman is an example, I think, of amnesia.
People forget how obnoxious he was.
We we even forget Sean.
I you may recall that he led the fight against me after the line in the sand, and I threatened to beat the living.
Yeah, I've forgotten about that.
Yeah, but you know something I don't I don't want to be in a world where Keith Oberman doesn't have the right to be a jerk.
He does you know, he he I why people will watch.
But why why does why does Bob Iger hire him when you know all these despicable tweets about the president and and on and on and on?
I mean, it is the double standard of which you spoke.
Jonathan.
Not only not only a double standard, but I gotta tell you, It is odd to me when somebody like Keith Oberman or uh Samantha B have shows or are commentators when I like watching television.
I like listening to talk radio.
But some of these people, you're you have to ask yourself, who are they talking to?
Are they getting ratings?
Or is somebody at ABC and these other uh networks uh are they just hiring leftists?
Is that all it is?
Because it there's it's not like they're stacked with people who have liberal views and conservative views, and they're interesting to listen to.
I I could listen to you, I could listen to uh Geraldo talk.
I've always been a fan of Geraldo, and I your voices are great on radio and on TV.
Keith Oberman, are they just hiring these people just to get voices?
Listen, I'm not I'm not gonna take away listen, even though the guy is absolutely nuts and insane, and I don't agree with a word politically that comes out of his mouth.
And it was uh on Sports Center.
And it was you know, with Dan Patrick.
I mean, I I'm not saying the guy doesn't have some talent.
I just think he's nuts, and everybody that's worked with him apparently thinks the same.
You know what I look forward to.
If these North Korean, it's a big if.
But if these North Korean negotiations go successfully, and if there is meaningful steps taken for denuclearization and de-escalation of the crisis that's existed uh all of both of your lives, entire lives, but uh most of my life from the early nineteen fifties.
If President Trump can pull this off, take this uh rabbit out of the hat.
I want to see how the left responds to what will be undeniably a historic achievement.
Will they give him the same kind of credit they gave uh for instance Jimmy Carter when he got uh a Menachem Bagan and uh Anwar Saddat to shake hands at Camp David?
Will it will it be that kind of uh kind of uh a gushing at a atta boy, way to go, Mr. President, Trump for Nobel Prize, or will it be ah, you gave away this, or you did this, uh well, it was really Pompeo who did it, or uh, you know, it was uh Hevanauer who did it the smokes the smoke State Department give credit to some uh obscure Democrat who did something uh or Dennis Rodman, the best call.
You know, I want to see if they give credit where credit is due.
Yeah, don't hold your breath.
All right, as we continue more on uh Samantha B, she has finally apologized.
What do you think should happen, Haraldo, to Samantha B?
Should she be fired?
Well, I I I just got the text of the apology.
I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night.
It was inappropriate and inexcusable.
I crossed a line and I deeply regret it.
Now that sounds to me sincere and also frightened.
So it could be that the Roseanne example has sunk into Samantha B. Maybe it will be a cautionary tale to her and to others similarly situated, that having an open mic doesn't mean that you have the right to cross the bounds of society.
And I think that uh the more people point out when it happens on the left, uh, just as the others point out when it happens on the right, the better off we'll be Sean.
Last word, Jonathan Gillam.
I think she should have to be forced into a timeshare down in Mexico, like Linda wrote.
By the way, if you're really nice to her before she gets rid of it, you may maybe she'll give it to you for a week.
Yeah, we should all go that way.
I love him.
I want uh listen, any trip that Geraldo and Jonathan are on and Linda are on, I'm in, I'll go.
We'll take the whole team, Jason, Ethan, Sunshine.
That was great.
Oh, it would be so fun.
Go ahead.
Last word, Jonathan.
You know, you know, I am a moral and ethical person, and I travel a lot as you do, and I've been here in Arkansas on vacation for a month, and I see what morals and ethics are.
If the if the news media starts looking to morals and ethics, they will start reaching all the people that they want in this country.
But I want to challenge the advertisers as well.
The advertisers should start looking at these networks, and if they're going to push to have one show pulled, they should push to have another show pulled, or they should just sit back and they should let the viewership determine uh what they want to watch, and then uh they should go forward with that.
But this fake moral outrage, the the American people are not buying it, they see right through it.
All right, thank you both.
Jonathan's hadn't been on vacation for a month, I want his contract.
All right.
Oh, there you go.
All right, thank you both for being with us 800 941 Sean is a toll-free telephone number.
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Twenty five till the top of the hour.
Let's get to our busy telephones here.
As promised, we start with Michelle.
She is in North Carolina.
Hi, Michelle.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, thanks so much, Sean.
Um, I just wanted to let you know it I speak Spanish fluently.
So if you guys need a translator or a tour guide, I used to live in Mexico.
I'm more than happy to go down to the time share with y'all.
What have we opened up here?
Uh by the way, Linda, when do you get rid of that timeshare?
When is it?
When does the timeshare go away?
Uh because I know you're working with Lone Star Transfer.
Lone Star Transfer is helping me to get rid of my Mexico timeshare.
I'm sorry, I was talking to someone else.
I can't play it off like you.
I was distracted, Michelle.
I'm not gonna lie.
Well, you know, every day when the Rush Limbaugh people come in there and you're spending hours talking to them distracting.
You know, with all I do nothing else.
Listen, we're here to do a good show every day.
Oh you guys boy, you better be careful.
And you better, you know, I need you to focus on your jobs.
Oh, dude.
It's not okay.
It's not okay.
Uh anyway, Michelle.
That's just me.
Michelle, go ahead and ask me a question.
You have my undivided attention.
Undevoided attention.
Go ahead.
First of all.
I was well, I was just offering, I was offering.
I used to live in Mexico, lived there for four years.
Three of my kids were born there.
And I said if you guys needed a travel agent, if you need somebody to go down with you and be your trans.
No, no, you want to be a part of our party because now this apparently is going to be a goodbye, Linda timeshare party.
Well, I I throw a Christmas party now.
It's an annual event, and uh she apparently takes it over.
I have no say in my own Christmas party, except for you can't be trusted with the guest list.
That has to be in mind control, especially the drinks.
You have no taste in good drinks.
Listen, I was tasting good shots.
Excuse me, you guys were drinking this white, disgusting shot.
Uh it's called Rum Chata.
It's a well-known drink.
Michelle, do you know what rum chat is?
I do not.
Okay, Michelle, that's the wrong answer all the time.
Agree with me.
Boom.
Boom.
Thank you, uh, Michelle.
You're not invited anymore.
Oh, you're gonna be the DD.
Okay.
Well, in any event, we had we had good drinks.
Listen, I will say this.
There's if you ever have a party with this crazy crew I've got here, and Geraldo and Jonathan Gillam, maybe we'll add Bo Deedle to the list.
And you know what else we did?
We named our shot.
It was called Uranium One Shot.
You did do a lot of silly things at the party.
Yes, you did.
And uh, and I stayed an extraordinary amount of time and I still got yelled at from the And I drank a lot of extraordinary shots to save our country because we needed to get rid of uranium one.
So I took care of those shots.
I just did as much as I could for the country.
It was a selfless act.
It was.
Yeah, well, you know, they do have they they do have this radiate these radiation detectors all over New York.
People go in and they drink whatever that fluid is that you gotta drink before you get a barium.
Barium.
And then they apparently the sets off all the triggers of radiation.
And literally, there's like an old man, eighty years old, just gets out of the doctor's office and drank that crap.
Please tell me you don't have this in your system before we're about to go to an airport.
Me?
Yeah, you.
Why are you talking about barrium?
It doesn't matter.
I'm not making the point that that's you get your radium one shot.
That white stuff looked exactly like it.
No, barium has like a more of a greeny color to it.
I said it doesn't matter what I drink if I drink it or not, because sweet baby James sets up every alarm.
He's got a a literally a tattoo on his forehead that says, Frisk me, won me, stop me, search me.
Oh, that happens to me too.
And that happened to me the last two times when I went on the trip.
And it didn't happen to James.
I don't want to travel with any of you then.
But I want to just walk on through.
You know, the worst part is hi, Mr. Hannity.
Uh, would you mind going over here for extra screening?
I'm like, really, I've been strip searched twice.
Like not kidding.
Really strips.
Down down to my underwear.
Yikes.
That didn't happen to me yet.
I haven't had that treatment.
But I kept my socks on.
That was weird.
Oh man, I didn't know they really did that unless there's a problem.
Anyway, all right, Michelle, you're on the party list, but I probably won't go because I'm a loser.
Uh, but you have a great day.
Thank you for for offering.
Uh let's go back to our phones as we say hi to Joe is in uh New Jersey.
Hey, Joe, how are you?
We're glad you called.
Good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Uh first of all, it's an honor to speak with you.
And I thank God for people like you.
Thank you.
You you're you're on the air.
I I find it a flat out miracle our electoral system worked in spite of the real corruption that went on in this 2016 election.
Not a religious person, but I almost see it as an act of God that it survived and it worked properly.
Um not the Hillary and uh Bernie Sanders won.
That was uh that was painted, but this actually worked out for us.
I think it was from a higher authority that allowed it to work.
I just wonder what you thought.
You know, look, I mean, I believe in in a God, a creator, and I believe that yeah, I think we're all endowed by our creator.
And I guess that makes me in the mind of somebody like Joy Joy Less Behart, um, you know, somebody that's mentally unhinged.
I believe we are blessed.
I believe there is a God, a father.
I'm a Christian, and I I believe in redemption, the whole I believe in his son Jesus.
I believe in all of that.
Jesus, I believe it.
I just will say this.
I I I don't think sometimes we recognize and our founders and framers warned that government power needs to be checked regularly.
This is what they were afraid of.
Unchecked abuse of power.
You know, if Hillary won, we would never know all that we now know.
And you know, I I have no idea how I got in the middle of all this, to be perfectly blunt with you, except we just kept following the truth.
We kept that's what I look at it as, Sean.
It's it's uh it's it's a it's a cleansing of our system that that couldn't happen too soon.
But remember, this isn't over yet.
You gotta remember another thing.
The deep state will always protect themselves.
Don't forget the admonition of of Chucky Schumer.
You know, they'll get you, oh, I wouldn't take on the Intel committee.
They'll get you eight ways in Sunday.
Right?
How are nice to is that is that really what our government is, or having Brennan say, stay tuned, Mr. President, or anything like that.
Right, right.
Hey, Sean, before I go, can I tell you something funny?
Uh uh we used to do with my son.
Back when he was younger, uh, we used to do the goodnight prayers and you know, God bless my mom, pop pop, aunts, uncles, and I'd always throw in and Sean Hannity.
And until I started getting the stink eye from my wife.
Listen, I'll take all the prayers you listen.
I I do believe in prayer, and I do believe that there's a God ab above.
I believe all of that.
And I'll take all the prayers you want to give me, because there's no doubt, you know, there's such a there's a group of of us on that understand this this truth, this abuse of power, this corruption that has happened.
And we're fighting like hell to get this story out.
And we're we're we want America to be preserved as it was intended.
We can't have a dual justice system.
You can't have the powerful use of tools of intelligence turned on the American people.
You can't have warrants issued based on op research, unverified, uncorroborated.
You can't have a justice system for Hillary and a different one for the rest of us.
You you you can't we we're not gonna survive if if that type of abuse of power continues.
And I I just love this country.
Too many people fought blood and died for this country for us not to fight to preserve the integrity of the system.
And it's it's worse than I ever thought.
Well, it was you know, March 7th, 2017, Hannity and the Sean Hannity show, when we first revealed that there was a Pfizer warrant issued against Trump Tower, and we've grown from there and we built it out from there.
And we haven't even we're not even talking about the unmasking abuse.
We're not even talking about the surveillance abuse.
We're not even talking about leaking intelligence abuse.
We're not even talking about uranium one anymore, which we will get back to.
There's so much that has gone wrong here.
It's scary.
It actually is to me, it's very sobering, and it's it's more intense than I can even describe.
If does that make sense?
Yeah, and I just we uh I I just pray you keep fighting the good fight along with everybody else I previously mentioned.
There's a gravity to it that I wish didn't exist.
I'm just being very blunt and honest with you.
And um I I I really feel like I see a real clear present danger if we don't get it right.
It's not about me, it's about the country.
It's about well, there's a lot at stake here, much more than I would want to even admit to myself, probably.
It's a moral gradual degradation.
You know, and don't ever forget if you think it can happen here.
Oh, yeah, it can.
Any any you know, minor perusal of history will show you great republics fail and fall, and empires fail and fall, and changes occur and corruption has existed all throughout history.
I just think we can get this this wrong righted.
This I think we can get this country back on the right track and put in place safety procedures to ensure it never happens again.
That's what I'd like to see happen.
It's almost like we needed this to happen, don't you think?
You know, I mean, I don't know.
I I think I I actually think that if we ever got to the truth, the real raw, unbridled truth.
I don't think I I I I think we'd be shocked.
It would shock our conscience and our soul.
That's what I think.
Anyway, I appreciate you being with us.
Thank you so much for your your vote of confidence, your prayers, your call, and you know, one thing is just amazing about the American people, our capacity to get things right and our capacity.
Look at the American people now see Mueller's witch hunt for what it is.
It's taken a long time to get us there.
And so many people now, maybe they're a little slow to the dance.
They're now they're now fully engaged as we are.
And um I'm glad they're there.
I'm glad that people are jumping on board.
I'm glad people are standing up with the truth.
It's not a matter of who's right, it's a matter of what's right here.
Uh let's say hi to Laura's in North Carolina.
What's up, Laura?
How are you?
Hey, I'm great.
I've got three short things.
I promise I'll be brief.
Two are about um what I call crumby, Nancy Pelosi.
Not crummy, but crumby.
Um I'm a single mom of four.
Um, I have three sons, four children, three sons are gonna be rising sophomores.
I make a pretty good living as a nurse, but I'll tell you what, two thousand dollars to me, it ain't crumbs.
So if Nancy Pelosi crumby, Nancy Calosi wants to call it crumbs, then God bless her.
Let me tell you, Nancy Pelosi has no idea what crumbs are.
And you know, as somebody that worked in all these other jobs that had no money for a big part of my early adult life, let me tell you something.
That two thousand dollars a year, that's not crumbs.
Uh that two thousand dollars a year, that's insurance.
That's uh a house payment, that's a rental payment.
That's you know, maybe a new piece of equipment for your business.
It's it's important.
So that offended me, but I didn't think I could go any further on Nancy Closey till the other day I heard her um and um President Trump was awesome last night bringing her up in his rally about MS 13.
I was like, you have got to be kidding me that she is defending human life when she's uh pro-choice, you know, till the 39th week of life for a child that she's telling me about the sanctity of human life.
And the only people in the United States that even have the right to be offended would probably be PETA because MS-13, they can't even be compared to animals.
They're that bad.
And so when he brought that up, I was just good for you, do not let it go.
And you know what?
We that voted for Trump and the conservative people.
We are out here, we are still watching, we are still listening.
And I'm gonna tell you why they are gonna win in November.
Just why I knew for a fact they were gonna win, uh Trump was gonna win in um November of uh 2016.
Um every other election, people have signs out in their yards, Republican, Democrats.
This year, hardly anybody had Republican signs, and if they did, they were defaced.
Let me let me tell you what's gonna happen.
Everywhere.
If people see this election for what it is, they want to raise taxes, they want to impeach the president, they want to keep Obamacare, and they don't want a southern border wall.
If people see this for what it is, then it will be a very good year.
All right.
I gotta run and that's and that's why my uh my little straw poll is no one's gonna say they're uh Republican until they go to the ballot box, just like they did in in 2016.
So watch the signs around.
They're all Republican or all um Democrats or independent, and you won't see any Republican signs um because they don't want to be berated just like I didn't want to be berated, but guess who what?
Trump.
All right.
Appreciate your call.
Thank you so much for being with us, Laura.
Real quick, John in uh Long Beach, California.
We got about a minute for you, John.
How are you?
Hey, uh Sean, nice to talk again.
I just wanted I've been 40 years, I'm getting to the point.
I've been 40 years in journalism.
When I started in 1979, it'll be 40 next year.
The newspapers wanted to be objective, and you were you're if you were uh said to be subjective, it was an insult.
The New York Times these days, uh Sarah Carter and um and Solomon should be getting uh mentioned for the Pulitzer.
And they're not gonna even get close to it because their narrative is not fitting the narrative of the of the New York Times, which is uh which is a disgrace.
Washington Post, I'm ashamed of my profession.
You know, the the New York Times, when they say all the news is fit to print on there, they should actually say all the news that fits.
Because it, you know, it's it's what fits their agenda.
I'm I'm I'm shocked.
Uh you know, the thing about the uh New York Times making the guy making this uh the mistake and not even really apologizing for it.
I one one thing real quick.
I had a friend, Josh Meyer, I used to work with in in LA.
He uh he wrote the story for Politico about how Hezbollah was running drugs into the U.S. and using it to you know support terrorism, and that uh they the DEA was getting ready to bust them or was doing an investigation, and Obama put uh Kabosh on because he wanted to make this silly deal.
I don't even know where the time on this uh program goes every day.
All right, Hannity, tonight, you do not want to miss this show.
Nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel, and we are we're gonna deal with this Samantha B issue.
And why is there such vitriol towards any woman in Donald Trump's life?
You want to go after the president?
Fine.
You're gonna go after his wife, his 11 year old kid, and his daughter.
Uh that really is the lowest of low.
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