Sean reacts to the news that ten students were killed during a school shooting in Santa Fe, Texas. Sean shares details and spends time digging into the tragic details. "This is simple," offered Hannity, "Every school needs a full threat assessment and we need to have people on the ground." Sean shares some of his additional thoughts on ways we could protect our students. The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sadly, sad news to report as we start this Friday edition of the Sean Hannity Show.
10 have been killed, another school shooting, 10 injured.
We've got all the details coming up, some of the sounds that'll break your heart.
First, I want to go straight to Texas.
It's in Santa Fe, Texas, where the Texas governor, friend of this program, Greg Abbott, is addressing the situation.
Mark Henry, I am the county judge of Galveston County, Texas.
I'm the chief elected official in Galveston County.
We are unfortunately all here today because of a tragic event that occurred this morning at Santa Fe High School.
Fortunately for us, we did have a rapid response from a lot of state and U.S. leaders that are down here now.
We've spent a little bit of time briefing Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Senator Cruz, and other elected officials on the events that happened this morning.
At this time, I will pass it off to Governor Abbott.
Well, Judge, first I want to thank you for your tireless efforts over the past few hours to help your county respond to this.
We appreciate you and your entire team stepping up and showing the way to respond to what has to be probably the worst disaster ever to strike this community.
Also, I want to express my gratitude to the other officials who are gathering with us here today.
This is just the beginning of what will be a very robust response by both local, state, and federal officials.
We come together today as we deal with one of the most heinous attacks that we've ever seen in the history of Texas schools.
It's impossible to describe the magnitude of the evil of someone who would attack innocent children in a school, a place of learning where parents should be able to send their children without fear for their child's safety.
It's with a very heavy heart that I can confirm that as of this time, there have been 10 lives that have been lost and another 10 that have been wounded.
We grieve for the victims who lost their lives at Santa Fe High School and we pray for the families who are suffering and will continue to suffer in the days to come.
Nothing can prepare a parent for the loss of a child.
This will be a long and painful time for these parents as they work their way through what has to be the greatest challenge they've ever dealt with.
We mourn with them.
We mourn as fellow Texans.
But we must come together as one community at this time of enormous suffering and show the victims and their families the support they need and they deserve.
We appreciate all the first responders who've already stepped up to help respond to this challenge.
And we look to God.
We look to God to give the first responders as well as the victims and their families the guidance they need in the coming days and weeks as we work to continue to get to the bottom of what happened and very importantly, work to respond to this challenge.
I ask the rest of the country to join Texas in mourning the loss of these individuals, these students, and to offer your prayers and support of these families.
And I ask every parent out there, wherever you may be, to hold your children close tonight and let them know how much you love them.
Now we have two goals going forward.
The immediate goal is to work in the immediate aftermath of this catastrophe to gather the evidence and information that is needed to ensure that this crime is going to be prosecuted appropriately while also working in tandem to ensure that we provide the families and victims as well as all the children at this school and schools across the entire independent school district with the support and resources and counseling they need.
Second, we need to do more than just pray for the victims and their families.
It's time in Texas that we take action to step up and make sure this tragedy is never repeated ever again in the history of the state of Texas.
So beginning immediately, I'm going to be working with members of the Texas Legislature but also members of our communities across the entire state of Texas to begin with roundtable discussions beginning next week where we will assemble all stakeholders to begin to work immediately on swift solutions to prevent tragedies like this.
from ever happening again.
We want to hear from parents.
We want to hear from students.
We want to hear from educators.
We want to hear from concerned citizens.
We want to hear from those who hold the Second Amendment right in high esteem.
We want to hear from everybody who has an interest in what has happened today so we can work together on putting together laws that will protect Second Amendment rights, but at the same time ensure that our communities and especially our schools are safer places.
These include things like speeding background checks.
They also include strategies to keep guns out of the hands of those who pose an immediate danger to others.
They include providing more resources to our schools to make sure that they have the safety personnel who can help protect their schools.
It also means providing resources to address the mental health issues behind gun violence with a focus to reduce gun violence.
It also means perhaps expanding a program that we've seen work effectively in the Lubbock Independent School District where they have ways of measuring mental health challenges of students and being able to identify those who may pose a risk and looking to deploy those strategies in school districts across the state of Texas.
Listen, the fact of the matter is, in the fog of the aftermath of a catastrophe like this, the answers are not always immediate, but the answers will come by us working together.
Now, that said, I do want to cover some of the details of where we stand right now, understanding that we will be providing updates later.
I mentioned those who have been identified as being deceased and wounded, and we will provide an update on that later on.
We are still, law enforcement is still in the process of undertaking both searches and investigation of the entire scene as well as other locations.
They have warrants out concerning the person who was responsible for the shooting, and they include warrants to search two residences.
The reason why there is some slowness in being able to undertake these searches is because of the potential for explosive devices to be found in these residences as they want to make sure they're able to enter them without anybody being harmed.
One reason why there is concern about explosive devices is that various different kinds of explosive devices have already been detected.
One was a CO2 device, another was a Molotov cocktail, and there are various other types of explosive devices that have been identified both in a home as well as in a vehicle.
There's also a search warrant out for the vehicle of the shooter, but again, care and caution is being undertaken to make sure that entry is not made into that vehicle in a way that could pose harm to the people who are trying to enter into it.
We also know information already that the shooter has information contained in journals on his computer and a cell phone that he said that not only did he want to commit the shooting, but he wanted to commit suicide after the shooting.
As you probably know, he gave himself up and admitted at the time that he didn't have the courage to commit the suicide, that he wanted to take his own life earlier.
He is currently at the Santa Fe Police Department.
The Santa Fe Police Department is working in collaboration on this investigation with the FBI, with the Texas Department of Public Safety, with the ATF, with the Galveston Police Department, as well as the Galveston County Sheriff's Office.
This is something that will be handled collaboratively by both federal and state prosecutors.
So you'll know there are one or two other people of interest that are going to be in or currently being interviewed.
One is a person who was at the scene, and we cannot definitively say whether or not this is a person who may have had some level of involvement in the crime.
There was just some suspicious reactions on the part of this person that we want to make sure that this person is adequately investigated.
And then, separate from that, there is another person where we have certain information that we want to make sure this other person is going to be fully interviewed to see if there's information to be gleaned from this other person who at this time will not be identified.
As you probably have heard, the weapons used in this attack, there are two weapons.
One was a shotgun and the other is a 38 revolver.
Neither of these weapons were owned or legally possessed by the shooter.
It's my information that both of these weapons were obtained by the shooter from his father.
It's my information at this time that the father legally owned these weapons.
I have no information at this time whether or not the father was aware that his son had taken these weapons from the father.
I do want to thank all of the multitude of law enforcement agencies that have been involved in this process.
They include the Santa Fe Police Department, Galveston Sheriff's Office, Texas Department of Public Safety, League City Police Department.
As I mentioned earlier, both the FBI as well as the ATF, the Galveston Police Department, Harris County Sheriff's Office, Texas City Police Department, Perryland Police Department, and Houston Metro Police Department.
And two things we're working on as we speak.
One is to make sure that parents are going to be notified as swiftly as possible.
One thing that depends upon is how swiftly the crime scene is going to be able to be dealt with, with the concern being that for the potential of explosive devices on the crime scene.
I think that's something that can be worked out here in a very short period of time.
Second, very importantly, is the necessity of providing counseling to everybody involved.
Certainly counseling for the families, for any living victim, but for all of the students at this school.
And I would say any student in the entire independent school district.
I know that resources are being provided by the county for that.
They are also being provided by the state.
And we will have whatever amount of counselors the school district needs.
I've had the opportunity to visit with the superintendent of the school district who's been quite helpful both in the investigation but also in the response and I thank her for her leadership in this effort.
Also, as you've heard, I have received phone calls from the president, the vice president, the secretary of homeland security, as well as the secretary.
All right, that's Governor Abbott of Texas.
10 confirmed dead now at the school shooting in Santa Fe, Texas, 10 others injured.
I also see that Senator Ted Cruz is there as well.
We're getting more information about the shooter and we'll pass that on to you in our next segment here.
There are answers to this.
We will get to and get to all our coverage throughout the program today.
We have other coverage we're going to get to.
It's shocking today.
James Clapper, oh, it's perfectly great that we have spies in the Trump campaign.
Wow.
That's like, okay, do you just not believe in the Constitution, the rule of law?
Very scary.
We'll get to all of it, I promise.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to these families again.
There is an answer.
It's not politics.
There is an answer.
It's called security.
The very same security we give to politicians and to famous people, actors and actresses.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity show you just joining us.
Sad news, 10 kills, a school shooting in Santa Fe, Texas, and 10 others injured.
And, you know, I'm listening to the governor, and he talked about, all right, we're going to begin next week immediately the work of finding the answer.
There are solutions here.
As we have seen in previous cases, we now know that Demetri Ozpag or what is his name?
Ozpag or Cheese is how you say his name.
He's the shooter.
Once again, there's social media that shows a lot about this person that obviously these are signs that keep getting missed.
And this is a problem.
This is a problem.
I don't understand.
We now know explosives were found near the school.
You know, you look at this.
This guy's wearing a t-shirt with the words born to kill emblazoned across it.
He's got a social media page that makes reference to Nicholas Cruz.
And reportedly now is also armed with pipe bombs.
And I think it's really simple.
Every school in this country needs a full, complete threat security assessment.
On top of that, you got to secure the perimeter of every school, secure access and entry points of every school.
We have to have metal detectors and an ID system for every student at every school.
And then there's only one answer beyond that, is these instances are over in three minutes.
No police force is going to be able to get there fast enough.
So you've got to have people on the ground.
Every floor of every school in America needs two retired, either military or law enforcement people that are working.
If they volunteer 15 hours a week, two days a week, then maybe they get a tax break, federal, state, local tax break.
They don't pay any taxes.
I bet they'd be lined up around the block and you'd have more people than you could ever use.
All right.
We'll update you with all of that and much more as we continue.
Andy McCarthy, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett coming up today.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
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We got a lot of news to get to.
Clappers, comments.
Really?
FBI spies in the Trump campaign.
Oh, this is fine.
This is perfectly normal.
No, it's not.
If you believe in the Constitution of the United States, no, none of this is good.
None of this is constitutional.
None of the FISA lying to the FISA judges is constitutional.
We've got Andy McCarthy today.
We've got Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter and so much more coming up in the course of the program today.
It really should shock the soul and the conscience of everybody.
Now we have 10 dead and we have 10 more injured in yet another school shooting.
You know, it is very frustrating to me because the answers are there.
This is not political for me in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Demetrius Pagerchees is this guy's name.
And Demetrius, you know, what do we find?
We found the same thing we found the last time.
Social media telegraphing fingerprints of this guy saying that, oh, I'm probably likely to commit a school shooting.
You know, pay attention to me.
And once again, we ignore them.
And that's a pretty big problem.
If a kid's posting something online, a t-shirt with the words born to kill emblazoned across it, that's a problem.
Because most parents would say, get that thing off.
What's going on?
What do you mean born to kill?
Or if he's referencing Nicholas Cruz, the shooter down in Parkland, Florida, then, you know, obviously there's something wrong here.
And again, the signs seem to be missed.
Now, some of the other news that has come out of this, remember, 10 dead now.
Santa Fe, Texas, 10 are injured.
We also know that local news down there reported that, in fact, with the suspect in custody, according to law enforcement, the sheriff down there, his name Ed Gonzalez said a male suspect in custody, person of interest, also detained in question.
The governor Abbott mentioned the same thing as well.
Police found pressure cookers, pipe bombs around the school.
That's now been confirmed by numerous law enforcement and by the governor.
There's an active search for explosives in the area.
People have been warned to be careful.
Two students and a school resource officer were shot and injured in the shooting.
And, you know, we know local hospitals are doing what they do, and that's saving lives.
And thank God for these first responders and these law enforcement that got there as quickly as possible.
One Santa Fe high school student gave an unbelievably chilling account.
Gunman's wearing a trench coat with USSR on the back.
Fire alarm is pulled by a teacher, not by the shooter.
And we heard popping noises, the students said.
Then we saw people running across the field and they were like shooting, a shooting, a shooting is happening.
Student was with his friend, didn't want to speak, but allegedly witnessed the shooting firsthand.
Apparently, he ran into an art class and just started unloading bullets.
He had a shotgun and apparently a revolver that appears to be owned or was owned by his father.
He explained that the gunman shot multiple other people before a friend ran out of the classroom, notified a teacher.
The alarm was pulled.
If that alarm was never pulled, I think there would have been more casualties.
The students also gave a description of the student.
We know who it is.
We can't give out his name.
He's wearing a trench coat.
I think it said USSR on it.
That's what it said on the back.
Why have we not done a threat assessment of every school in the country now?
A full-on security threat assessment.
Why have we not done monitored and secured the perimeter of every school and the entry points of every single school in America?
You know, why haven't we done that at this point?
You got to ask, because if we don't do it, it's like the definition of insanity, doing nothing or the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It's not going to happen.
And the second thing, of course, every entry point must be monitored.
Nobody gets into that school without proper identification.
Nobody should get into any school now without a metal detector.
We all go through it in airports.
We're all kind of used to the drill.
There's a way to do it.
If you have a kid, like in the case of the Parkland shooting, that he's not allowed to bring a backpack to school, he's that troubled, well, then there's got to be an intervention of some kind.
And then I would add, yes, we do need concealed carry, retired military and police, two on every floor of every school.
Hannity, that's so expensive.
Okay, you're right.
I do think local law enforcement, the FBI, would be glad to do security threat assessments for every school.
We can do that for free, the money we're already spending.
And then on top of that, if local districts don't have the money to pay for people, well, maybe we can create an incentive by no federal, state, local taxes for those that volunteer two days a week, three days a week, whatever it happens to be.
Retired military, train, concealed, carry people, former law enforcement.
They line up around the block.
Bombs found all around the school.
Nobody's watching in the perimeter.
This is a problem.
I'm not casting aspersions of blame here.
I'm trying to find an answer so that we don't have to talk about 10 more families having lost their children.
Why don't we use the same protective methods that have been proven to work for politicians and for Hollywood actors and athletes and stars?
They get protection, arm protection everywhere.
If we can prevent this from happening at the Oscars, we ought to be able to have it happen and protect every school.
It's ridiculous.
This is not a political issue.
It's not a gun issue.
Every time it happens, the worst, you know, it's always a different gun.
So that's not the issue here.
The issue here is: well, there is some issues with gun safety.
You can't let mentally ill people have guns.
Criminals don't obey the laws by their very nature.
We also have to have, every school district needs to have some person that monitors every kid's social media postings.
Maybe you need two people.
But you got this is a reality now that they're telegraphing what they're going to do.
Terrorists do it.
These school shooters do it.
We owe it to these kids that they learn in a safe environment.
I don't have to go through the trauma and the horror of losing their friends or losing their own lives or, you know, in a hospital now fighting for their lives.
There's a way to solve problems.
When are we going to solve this problem?
If anyone has better ideas than me, this isn't about who's right.
I'm all for it.
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We'll have full coverage, obviously, and update you on this horrific shooting today.
But, you know, James Clapper saying that spying on the Trump campaign is a good thing.
I'm like, this is the former director of national intelligence.
Did you get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign?
They may have had someone who was talking to them in the campaign.
But, you know, the focus here, and as it was with the intelligence community, is not on the campaign per se, but what the Russians were doing to try to instantiate themselves in the campaign or to influence or leverage it.
So if there was someone that was observing that sort of thing, that's a good thing because the Russians pose a threat to the very basis of our political system.
And I think it's hugely dangerous if someone like that is exposed because the danger to that person, not to mention the reluctance of others to be informants for the FBI.
And the FBI gains a lot of valuable information from informants.
So to me, this is incredible.
Have you ever heard of the Constitution, Mr. Clapper?
Have you ever heard of the Fourth Amendment to our Constitution against unreasonable search and seizure?
Have you ever heard about the court system and probable cause, gathering warrants?
Did you have anybody in the Hillary campaign because they paid a foreign national after they funneled money through a law firm to Fusion GPS to hire the foreign national Christopher Steele, who then paid for Russian dubious sources that all these stories have now been debunked and lies not only to manipulate the American people in the lead up to an election,
but also was used as the bulk of information in a FISA application to spy on a Trump campaign associate.
Let me tell you something.
You don't get to take it upon yourself, Mr. Clapper, and put spies within campaigns and lie to FISA courts, the people that did that, just because you think it's a good thing.
Did you do it to Hillary's campaign?
No.
Did you do it to Obama's campaign?
No.
You just want to disregard the rule of law, the Constitution, the Fourth Amendment.
How could you be that arrogant bragging about illegal surveillance during a presidential election?
You know what?
That's, you know, that's not America.
That's the former Soviet Union.
That's Venezuela, as we've said so many times.
You know, we need to get to the bottom of what he did.
You know, then we got Brennan.
Both him and Brennan, known liars.
What do they do?
And with their, you know, the cryptic threats, stay tuned, Mr. President.
Oh, okay.
Really?
Let me tell you something.
If we don't get this fixed, we don't have a country at this point.
You know, this is why, you know, now that we know the FBI agents, you know, FBI informants in the Trump campaign, now we know the FISA court lied to.
We know Hillary committed crimes.
We know they covered him up.
And we know that we don't have equal justice under the law, equal application under the law.
You want to obstruct justice and delete subpoenaed emails and acid wash your hard drive and beat up your devices?
Good luck to you in any court of law because you're going to jail.
That's only good for Clintons and liberals.
It's not good for the rest of America.
A two-tier justice system.
This is a very, very dangerous time for this country.
The rule of law as we know it, our Constitution is being shredded before our eyes by these deep state, unaccountable actors that literally think they knew better than you that they were going to protect a felon and someone that obstructed justice and then undermine the other candidate.
And then when he got in, they're going to set traps for the other candidate and they're going to lead the country on this deep dive witch hunt, which is what we've now been going through.
You know, they're so concerned about Russian influence.
Okay, they should have spied on the Hillary campaign.
They should have an FBI spy there, gotten FISA warrants against her because she controlled the $12 million and paid for the Russian dossier full of Russian lies.
Using a foreign national who, by the way, as Greg Jarrett pointed out in interrogatories in Great Britain, in other words, legal testimony of Christopher Steele.
Yeah, well, it was raw intelligence.
It's maybe 50-50.
Some of it was true.
Nobody, that was used as the basis of a FISA warrant?
Not once, but four times.
The bulk of data.
They used unverified, never corroborated, a dossier she paid for.
They never told the judges that she paid for it.
Four separate occasions.
You don't want to talk in?
This is what I'll explain tonight.
This is Watergate on steroids, a third-rate break-in that eventually forced Nixon to resign.
No, this is so far worse.
It's not even close.
It's a threat to our republic.
And it's all playing out now.
It's nothing compared to Watergate.
So far beyond in terms of the level of corruption and the players and the abuse of power that is involved here.
That's why you see now they're scared to death of what the IG report's going to say.
So they're leaking now to all their friends in the New York Times and the Washington Post.
Oh, it's so dangerous if the FBI informant in the Trump campaign is identified.
I haven't mentioned the guy's name.
I know who it is.
I've known who it is all week.
It's out there.
We're not trying to hurt people in this.
Why was this person an FBI informant?
For what reason?
Why?
Where is the warrant for this guy to be involved in this?
Well, you want to just help the bad actors spin the facts now, get it out early because it's all coming out because you've been exposed.
It's taken a year and a half for me, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, you know, and so many others to get the information.
It's been pulling teeth.
And now that it's beginning to come out, now we'll begin to leak it slowly so it doesn't seem as bad.
And meanwhile, everything they've been telling us for a year has been a lie.
Trump, Russia, collusion.
They rigged the Clinton email investigation.
She broke the law.
They exonerate her.
Oh, and also then we've got every protocol, every FISA law mandate has been broken.
This is disgraceful.
Anybody that says anything, you watch out.
They're coming after you, too.
All right, jumping Jack Flash, gas-ass gas.
All right, crossfire hurricane.
Andy McCarthy, who's going to join us in a minute, has been following everything involving Deep State Gate Mueller, the special counsel on masking FISA abuse as closely as anybody and has done a remarkable job.
Let me first go to Rudy Giuliani saying a couple of things.
One, he's saying that we're going to look to challenge the legitimacy of the Mueller investigation, and he's shocked to hear about an FBI spy within the Trump campaign.
In this case, I think we're going to have to look into whether we can challenge the legitimacy of the entire investigation.
Maybe a special prosecutor, special counsel never should have been appointed.
Not based on an illegal leak, not based on a set of facts that go back to, I mean, I'm shocked to hear that they put a spy in the campaign of a major party candidate, or maybe two spies.
And now I'm going through my brain since you know I was a big part of that campaign.
I'm trying to figure out who was the spy.
Now I'm wondering, is it this person or that person or this person?
Now, if there's a spy, they got nothing from it.
Look, they'd be able to bring their case right now if the spy had any incriminating information.
All right.
So the president is correct.
This on top of everything that we've talked about, crimes committed by Hillary, obstruction of justice.
Good luck if you try to delete 33,000 emails, acid wash your hard drive, and beat up your electronic devices that have subpoenaed information.
And that, of course, leading to an exoneration before an investigation.
And three days later, what have we been learning?
The big New York Times piece.
Exactly as I said, when I saw it, I was stunned.
One, because it corroborates, confirms so much of what we've been reporting since we first announced in March of 2017 that there was a FISA warrant on Trump Tower, something involving the Trump campaign up to and including today.
The latest piece, unless he's written one in the interim that I haven't seen, is spinning a crossfire hurricane.
The Times, meaning the New York Times, on the FBI Trump investigation, Andrew McCarthy is with us, National Review Online.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
You know, there's been a few of us, there haven't been many, that have really been trying to dig deeply in terms of print and knowledge of the law and your background having, you know, been involved as a prosecutor on high-profile terrorism cases.
Your take is extraordinarily unique.
Let's go over all of this from your perspective.
Well, I think the big thing that happened here, Sean, is that in the emails investigation involving Mrs. Clinton, they bent over backwards to not make the case.
And what appears to have happened in what's called the Trump-Russia investigation is they seem to have scorched the earth to try to invent a case because there wasn't incriminating evidence.
They wouldn't have had to do really outrageous things like use the government's counterintelligence surveillance powers to investigate people.
If they had had incriminating evidence, they would have done what you always do.
They would have just opened up a criminal case and gone forward.
So it seems like what they did was use these extraordinary powers in what amazingly is a situation in which it's the incumbent Democratic administration investigating the Republican presidential campaign, which is just remarkable.
I asked you last night about Hillary.
There's no doubt 18 U.S.C. 793 Espionage Act was violated when she had a private server in a mom-and-pop bathroom closet, correct?
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it, Sean.
In fact, I've always thought the biggest head fake of that whole thing was the big argument over whether she was grossly negligent or not.
I mean, she clearly was grossly negligent, but I also think this was a slam-dunk case on willful intent.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, under circumstances where she knew that 80% of her job involved classified information, she quite willfully and intentionally set up this homebrew server system.
Yeah, likely to avoid congressional oversight, right?
Right.
And I think looking to avoid congressional oversight, Freedom of Information Act.
But I've always thought the real motivation, Sean, is that the Clinton Justice Department, I think, was run basically in conjunction and in the service of the Clinton Foundation.
And I've always thought that the reason why all of the emails kind of off site was because she didn't want that to be detectable under the government disclosure.
We do know for a fact because in the Uranium One issue, we talked to at the time, it was amazing.
We didn't know at the time, but we had an agent undercover that had discovered bribery and blackmail and extortion and money laundering and other crimes.
And Robert Mueller happened to be the FBI director at the time.
And these were Vladimir Putin operatives with the very stated purpose of getting a foothold in America's uranium industry.
Let me stay focused on the timeline, though.
And you have no doubt that the deletions of subpoenaed emails, destruction of such acid wash, that was obstruction, correct?
I believe so.
And I also think the guy who did it for them could have been easily prosecuted for making false statements, which is what happens to everybody in the Trump-Russia investigation.
Instead, in the Clinton investigation, by the way, even if they believe you, like in the case of Michael Flynn, we now know they believe them.
Right.
But here they, you know, you commit a felony, they give you immunity.
So, you know, they get you whatever way it goes.
But they could have squeezed that guy for information.
Instead, predictably, they gave him immunity, and he came back with a preposterous story that protected everybody else in the other.
And if I did that, I would be probably in jail, and even a great attorney like yourself couldn't get me out.
I mean, look at what's happened to these people in this other investigation.
I mean, these are the sorts of things that people get prosecuted for.
Then let's talk about Comey's role, because now Comey is in charge of investigating this.
In May of 2016, he and Peter Strzok, who we now know is a huge Trump hater, that they are involved in writing an exoneration.
And the original drafts talk about foreign intelligence services having hacked into Hillary's server.
They talk about the gross negligence standard.
But that all gets taken out.
He gives a 13-minute speech.
They interview her on July 2nd.
July 5th, they're exonerating her, and then they're off to the races with the Trump campaign.
Yeah, I think the other important aspects of that, Sean, are that we have, I think the number is 22.
I could be a little off one way or the other on this.
Emails between Obama and Mrs. Clinton when she was Secretary of State.
Oh, no, no.
They changed that to a high-ranking Obama administration official, didn't they?
Well, before they completely eliminated it entirely from the statement.
But I've always thought that that was very important because you couldn't have prosecuted Clinton without revealing that Obama had engaged in the same behavior, albeit in a you know, in smaller comments.
In other words, he had to know she had a private email server.
He had to know that, but it also would have been very embarrassing for him if the Justice Department, now not that I think the Justice Department would ever have prosecuted her, but the fact that they couldn't have done it without revealing that he had engaged in the same activity she was being prosecuted for, that would have been completely unexpected.
Do you believe as I do that they rigged the investigation to allow her not to face consequences for crimes to keep her in the presidential race because they favored her?
Yeah, I don't think there's I think that's one of the reasons for it.
I think there are other reasons as well, but some of them having to do with the fact that this all happened under Obama's watch and he was implicated in the conduct.
But I think that it's clear that they rigged it and it's clear that Obama gave a statement in a very public statement to Chris Wallace, I think it was in April of 2016, in which he said basically he didn't want her prosecuted and he rewrote the Espionage Act in the same fashion that it was later applied by the Justice Department and applied by Director Comey.
So, you know, I've always thought this was a top-down thing, not a bottom-up thing from the Bureau.
What about the FISA abuse?
Because, and we can go off into the origins of the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion, and we're learning more and more about how absurd it was, and their timing is off, the timeline is off as it relates to George Papadopoulos.
And, you know, whatever diplomatic negotiations took place, I think, are revealing because that probably means Obama and John Kerry knew early on.
But let me go into the FISA abuse.
You know a lot about courts.
You were involved in the prosecution of the blind shake, correct?
Right.
So as the lead prosecutor, it would in any case there be, do you imagine that they bring to a FISA court, because FISA has very stringent laws, obviously, because you're talking about spying on an American citizen, a FISA court yet you bring bought and paid for, a dossier put together by a foreign agent that includes what we now know to be debunked Russia lies from Russia and Russian sources.
Hillary pays for it, and you present it to FISA judges in an application, and you don't tell them that you know Hillary paid for it, and you don't tell the judge you didn't verify it.
Okay.
Why do I fear ever doing that to a judge without expecting the maximum penalty?
Yeah, you'd get your head knocked off by any federal judge, but it's good, Sean, that you emphasize the fact that this is a FISA court, because this is a very specialized practice under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
It's one court that with a very select group of judges, I think there's about 11 or 14 of them, but the only people who get to appear before them are the attorneys in the National Security Division at Maine Justice.
And they typically care very much about their reputation with the court because they're very conscious that unlike the kind of warrants that I used to go in to get, where you always knew there'd be a prosecution at the end of the road, so it was going to be disclosed to defense lawyers and all that stuff.
They know that there's no review other than these FISA judges looking at the government's application.
So the FISA court has a higher expectation from the Justice Department that they are going to play it completely straight.
Are you as stunned as I, though?
Doesn't the FISA law require verification, corroboration before you present it in an application?
Because remember, the Grassley Graham memo said it was the bulk of the FISA application or the application for the warrant.
But it's even worse because we had three subsequent renewals.
Every 90 days, you've got to renew it.
You know, Sally Yates was on one.
Rod Rosenstein, he signed off on one, which I think conflicts him out of any role in any of this.
But, you know, that means the bulk of information for four separate warrants, four presentations before four FISA judges contain unverified information and I would argue a lie by omission by not telling the judges that Clinton paid for all this and that it was a foreign national that put it together and Russian lies were in there.
Yeah, Sean, the very important thing about the fact that they went back three times is you have an ethical obligation the minute you learn that something you've put in a warrant that a court has relied on is wrong, you need to go back and correct the record.
And instead, what they evidently did was continue to come back with the same set of stuff, even though they weren't able to corroborate it.
The requirement to verify the information comes from the justice, the FBI's practice manual, which is reviewed and basically authorized by the Justice Department.
So under their own procedures, they can't bring, or they're not supposed to bring, an uncorroborated warrant application to the FISA court.
And obviously, once they knew that Steele had lied to them, which they booted them out of the investigation for, they had an obligation to go back to the court and tell them that.
They kept using it.
They kept using his unverified dossier.
All right, as we continue with Andy McCarthy, you might remember Andy writes for National Review Online.
He also was the assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and he was the lead prosecutor in the blind shake case.
Let me ask you this, because I think this is, you know, really gets to the heart of the matter here.
Then you have this issue of a spy within the Trump campaign.
And I'm looking at all that has happened here, and then I'm looking at Robert Mueller, and he appoints somebody like Andrew Weissman, who I've covered his background extensively, and you're aware of who he is.
And I'm looking at this team, and I thought, I think of Judge Ellis III, and when he said, no, the only reason you're talking about 2005 to 2007, Paul Manafort, and tax fraud is because you really want to put the screws to Manafort so that you can make Manafort sing.
Remember, he may compose, and that the real purpose is to get some information from Manafort so you could prosecute or impeach President Trump.
Is that pretty accurate?
Is Judge Ellis right?
Yeah, you know, look, that's what prosecutors do.
I mean, of all the things that they've done, you know, I'm not happy about the fact that there even is one of these investigations.
But, you know, what all the judge did was in a very impolitic way say out loud what everybody knows, which is that when you squeeze people, you're squeezing them to try to get at other people.
And what they're obviously doing here and have been doing from the start is trying to squeeze Manafort to see if he's got anything on Trump.
And that has included not just the court proceedings, you know, the charges against him, but the way they scorched the earth investigating him, including the no-knock warrant at the pre-dawn hours where he's in bed and they yank him out of bed and cuff him.
And they're, you know, a big point.
Yeah.
Tip, by the way, that's Andrew Weissman 101, if anybody knows anything about him.
That was a fairly unsettled signal, I would say.
Oh, yeah.
All right, Andy McCarthy, we're going to link your articles because they've been fascinating and it's a great read.
And with your background, very, very powerful information that you're putting in them every time you're writing one.
Thank you for being with us, and we appreciate your time as always.
Thanks.
My pleasure, Sean.
Thanks a lot.
Andy McCarthy, Calmness National Review, former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
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If you want to be a part of the program, another horrible school shooting, this time in Santa Fe, Texas.
And I just, if you have kids in the car, I want to warn you, we're going to play some of the police scanner and some of the sound parents, students that were there.
The shooter just walks right into an art class and starts firing away.
And it raises all of the questions, sadly, that I have been bringing up over and over again.
When are we going to do the basic fundamental things?
And that is full, complete threat assessments, security assessments of every school in the country.
We could do it.
Local police, coupled with FBI, go school by school by school and do a complete threat assessment.
And then, of course, you got to secure the perimeter of every school.
Then, of course, you have to have IDs for every student and anybody that's getting into the school.
Points of entry must be controlled.
Then, of course, you need metal detectors.
There are ways, and then I would add to retired, armed police or law enforcement or retired military on the floor of every school.
Conceal Carrie.
And this way we can protect because these instances are over in such a short period of time.
We can do it.
Anyway, let me play from earlier today.
531, we'll make an entry.
419.
Where are you making the entry at?
Through the front, by front of the swaps.
More shots fired.
Additional shots fired.
Still have several more shots fired.
He's active shooting.
He's in the art room.
We've got shots fired right now, guys.
We need to offer you.
He's in custody.
At least one third is in custody.
She called me.
She said, Mom, there's shots at the school.
I thank God was not far away.
Turned around, got here as quick as I could, stayed on the phone with her, told her to stay quiet, to stay calm, to breathe.
And just waiting and waiting and waiting.
And finally, they were leading her out of the school.
Thank God she's okay.
We knew that something was much more wrong than just a fire.
We immediately saw 15 cop cars and sheriffs immediately just heading to the school.
And we just had no idea what was happening.
As soon as the fire alarm went off, we all just stood up and exited as normal because we've had fire doors before.
We've had many.
So we knew what to do.
But when we got outside, you could just see that our admin and our teachers knew that something wasn't right.
And they didn't show it at all in the way they were acting.
They 100% made sure that we were all safe, but you could tell that they knew something was happening.
As soon as they started telling us to run across Highway 6, we ran across and they were telling us to get away from the roads, to get into the ditches.
And we stood there for a few minutes.
And then we had teachers escorting us to behind the mechanic shop that is across the street that faces the high school.
And we stood there for quite some time and we were all filling out papers just they could do head checks and see who all was there.
And then after a while, they formed us into two lines and we walked down Highway 6 towards our junior high campus to be where we could meet with our families and know that we were safe at that point.
All right, so sad.
Eight confirmed dead, maybe as many as 10, most of them students, as he literally walked right into an art class and began firing here.
We also know that in addition to the carnage at the Santa Fe, Texas High School this morning, school district officials tweeting out that a number of bombs, plural bombs, were discovered both inside and outside the building.
L.A. Times reporting there have been explosive devices found in the high school surrounding areas adjacent to the high school.
The school district said in a tweet, because of the threat of explosive items, community members should be on the lookout for suspicious packages and anything that looks out of place.
Now, we do have one suspect that has been identified here.
The shooter has been identified, suspected shooter, and his name is Demetrius Pagorchiz is his name, a 17-year-old who posed on social media with a t-shirt bearing the words born to kill.
And as usual, we're finding other social media fingerprints within minutes, which raises the question: why are people not noticing this?
You know, a t-shirt with the words born to kill emblazoned on it, not good.
Got another social media page making reference to Nicholas Cruz.
He's reported to have been armed with, you know, bombs.
And anyway, joining us now to discuss, we have Joe Eaton.
He's program director of FasterSavesLives.org.
Dan Was, author of Good Gun, Bad Guy, Behind the Lies of the Anti-Gunner, and his newly released Good Gun, Bad Guy 2, destroying the anti-gun narrative.
Jonathan Giller, author of the number one bestseller, Sheep No More.
Thank you all for being with us.
You know, again, Jonathan, you have been on this program in a number of these incidences, and then we go immediately within seconds and minutes.
We find social media postings that said, okay, why didn't we see the signs, the warning signs?
You know, Sean, again, once again, you're right.
Here we are.
We're discussing something that is a repeat of the last school shooting and school shootings all the way back to Columbine, where, by and large, these things are traceable quite often.
And every time, 100% of the time, there's been little to no threat assessment.
There's been little to no if any even thought about locking down the perimeters, the doors around the schools, and narrowing the funnel so that they can really keep an eye on who's coming in and out of that school and what they're coming in and out with.
There's just none of that is happening.
And Sean, after the school shooting in Florida, I've said this, I'll stick with it.
Until they do that, there's going to be continued death in schools and there's going to be increased violence around this country.
What's the definition of insanity, Jonathan?
You know, doing the same thing over and over and over again, which is nothing, and expecting a better result.
It's not going to happen without taking decisive action.
I think I've identified the decisive action.
And if anyone has better ideas, I'm all for it.
But making schools no gun zones isn't working.
After I was on your show, after the Florida shooting, and we were talking about this exact same thing, you said that, you know, Jonathan would be willing to do threat assessment around the country.
I wrote the book, Sheep No More, which you wrote the forward about, which is all about awareness and attack survival.
I literally had schools and PTAs, the Parent Teacher Association, say that they wouldn't spend the money on it because it would probably never happen at their schools.
That's insanity.
Yeah.
Let me go to Joe Eaton.
You are the program director at faster saveslives.org.
There have been good programs that can be duplicated, paradigms created that can be duplicated.
Why don't we do it?
But we are seeing a lot of progress in schools, but the reality is, as one of the sheriffs I met with the school board just last week told the school, do all of this other stuff, harden the entrances, set up the checkpoints, monitor the social media.
But he simply told them the truth of the matter is by the time a kid has spent one year, two years, or three years in your building, they found a way around everything you've put in.
You still have to have that additional layer of safety and security.
That's why many of the schools are looking at including firearms in their safety program.
And we've trained over 1,300 from 225 districts in just the past five years, and we have over 400 more on our schedule for this summer.
They're starting to plan, they're starting to train, and they're saving lives.
Well, you know what?
It's got to happen everywhere.
It's got to be universal.
Dan, I know that a lot of these shootings that we cover, and I'm looking forward to the day we don't have another one, are happening in these gun-free zones, supposedly.
And, you know, Dan, you know, you talk about good gun, bad guy, and, you know, the lies behind the anti-gunner.
Look, I don't care if I respect the fact that some people do not want or might be afraid of firearms.
I get it.
But you know what?
We trust police officers with firearms.
They're trained.
We trust military with firearms.
They're trained.
You know, my question to anybody, if you're in a municipal building and is an active shooter or you're in a school and there's an active shooter, would you prefer to have trained professionals with concealed carry weapons on them or not?
And for me, the answer is simple and it's not a political issue for me.
Oh, Sean, I think the answer is clear.
And by the way, I just want to say it's an honor to be on your show.
And when it comes to holding the liars accountable, you're a one-man wrecking machine, and we appreciate you very much.
That means a lot.
Thank you.
Well, here's what we're going to see next: we're going to see the very sinister anti-gun radical media and just anti-gun radicals come out and try to use this like they do all the other incidents to foster more irrational gun fear and more unjust hatred and anger toward gun owners.
And this is the stuff that changes the narrative into a negative thing.
And this is the stuff that I do my best to try to expose, and I know you do too, exposing their tactics and their strategies because what they're doing by turning this into an anti-gun, anti-gun owner narrative is really probably the most evil thing we could do.
We need to look at our society and look at the cause.
What are we doing to cause create these killers in our society?
What's going on in the minds of these kids?
I mean, we know how we create the foreign terrorists.
We know how that happens.
What's happening with our answer to it, but they're telegraphing it almost every time.
I can't think of an instance, and that goes for people that are committing acts of terror or kids that eventually become involved in these school shootings.
They're putting it right out there on social media.
There's got to be some monitoring by these schools of these students, not to be nosy, not to be intrusive.
Just look at their public postings.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, yeah, I mean, and that's perfect.
We need to do that.
We need to identify the problem, and we need to harden our schools first and foremost.
But I think we need to get to the cause.
What's the cause?
Because we're always chasing around the effects, but we're never really looking at what's causing these kids to do that.
Once we get to the point.
Listen, I think that's a very good point, and I think that's part of it.
All right, we'll take a break.
We'll come back more on this terrible shooting, another school shooting, this time Santa Fe, Texas.
More details coming up as we continue with Joe Eaton.
He's the program director at fastersaveslives.org.
Dan Was, author of Good Gun, Bad Guy.
Also, Jonathan Gillum, author of the bestseller Sheep No More.
Before we even get to the cause, I think we need to secure every school.
Absolutely.
You know, one thing, in the case of the Parkland shooter, one of the things we learned is this was a very troubled kid.
He couldn't even bring a backpack to school.
You know, he'd been disciplined over 50 times.
They threw him out of school.
How did he get in the school?
Yeah, again, you know, schools are looking at doing a lot of this.
And, you know, we work with hundreds of different districts, and the mindset's starting to change in the schools.
I think that's why programs like the Faster Saves Lives program is so important.
You keep saying that, but I don't mean to be rude.
What percentage of schools are doing this?
Well, we've worked, just our volunteer nonprofit have worked with 225 different districts in just five years.
And how many schools are in the country?
About?
I know in Ohio that there is about 700 school districts.
So we have worked with roughly probably 20% of the school districts in Ohio.
But the schools are working outside of this program also.
And the reality is, is that they realize they have to keep doing more and more every time.
These events are going to continue.
Why?
That's a question that somebody has to answer.
But the fact is that violence is going to continue no matter whether we wake up in a magical world tomorrow with no guns or not.
There's still going to be people committing violence, and they have to be prepared for that.
Well, I mean, that's the scary part.
And Dan, this is the thing.
I'm not saying everybody needs to be a responsible gun owner.
Well, anyone that has guns does need to be.
I think there's certainly strong arguments to be made about criminals not having access to guns, but by their very nature, they don't obey laws.
Certainly people with mental health problems should not be allowed near a firearm.
But more importantly, we've just got to assume the worst at this point, don't we?
Well, yeah, I think so.
That's why I say, you know, hardening the schools is most important, first and foremost.
But, you know, another thing that comes from the anti-gun radicals is they want people to think that us, gun owners, guys like you and me, want everyone to be armed in the schools, even the lunch lady.
They make it look like such a horrible scenario where anything could go wrong.
And that's what they want to create in the narrative.
They want everyone to think that it's going to be the Wild West.
The truth is, there are some people who are inclined to carry a gun.
You know this.
I know this.
And we have friends who are capable and trained.
These are the people that should have the opportunity in the schools, whether they're teachers, whether they're whatever factors.
See, but I don't even think we should put the responsibility on teachers.
My idea would be that any retired law enforcement, retired police officer or retired military person that wants to serve their local school district, here's the deal, that they would get all state, local, federal taxes removed from their life.
All of it.
If you give, say, 15 hours a week.
Why don't we incentivize them that way?
It doesn't cost school districts a penny.
It doesn't cost the country a dime.
And for the most part, nobody's going to miss whatever money they would be otherwise paying in taxes.
Give these guys a break and incentive to go and serve their local district.
I guarantee you, you'd have more people signed up than you would ever need.
Absolutely.
And the NRA is backing the National School Shield program, which I'm sure you've heard Dana Lash talk about.
And that's another great example from what I see of it now.
A great example of training police officers to be able to handle these situations.
Now, these situations in schools are going to be a little bit different than what an officer might experience out in the street.
So I think that's another great way of doing it.
But yeah, people who are capable.
Absolutely.
All right, guys.
Thank you.
We'll have more coming up later in the program today.
Quick break right back, and we'll continue our news roundup information overload hours next.
Everything we think we know about the Trump Tower meeting, what Donald Trump Jr. testified before the Senate, for the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the version of events based on the transcripts that we've all read today.
Do you believe those version of events, or do you think we don't actually know what happened in that Trump Tower meeting?
I think there's still a lot that the public does not know.
I know there are a lot of things that I don't know.
I knew a lot when I was in government, but I didn't.
Do you know more about that meeting than we do in the public domain?
Well, I'm not going to talk about what I might know or not know about.
Well, my only ask is you just admitted it, so I didn't mean to say that.
I'm saying I know a lot about what happened during my time at CIA during the presidential campaign that has not come out publicly for a variety of reasons.
But I know that Bob Mueller and his team of investigators have uncovered a lot more information and are putting the pieces together.
So I don't think anybody should assume complete knowledge and the truth about any of these interactions or meetings.
They may have had someone who was talking to them in the campaign.
But, you know, the focus here, and as it was with the intelligence community, is not on the campaign per se, but what the Russians were doing to try to instantiate themselves in the campaign or to influence or leverage it.
So if there was someone that was observing that sort of thing, well, that's a good thing because the Russians pose a threat to the very basis of our political system.
And I think it's hugely dangerous if someone like that is exposed because the danger to that person, not to mention the reluctance of others to be informants for the FBI.
And the FBI gains a lot of valuable information from informants.
So to me, this is incredible.
Former director of national intelligence, yeah, that's pretty incredible.
Oh, sure, it's fine to have a spy in the campaign, Donald Trump.
Okay, can somebody please hand this man a copy of our Constitution?
You know, against, you know, we do have a Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
For what purpose, sir, was a spy an informant for the FBI within the ranks of the Trump campaign?
You know, do you really not have a problem with FISA courts and FISA applications, judges being presented information that's never verified, never corroborated, turns out to be full of Russian lies, the great irony of all of this, put together by a foreign national, which I thought was a bad thing to have an influence on our election.
And not only that, you didn't tell the FISA judge that Hillary Boughten paid for the lies against her political opponent in the lead up to a presidential election.
And did I mention there was not only the original FISA application, but three subsequent applications.
All right, they have been in the forefront of really breaking down this outrage that extends so far and so deep at the highest levels of the Department of Justice at the FBI in the Intel community.
Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, he has a book coming out about all of this, the Russia hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton, frame Donald Trump.
You can pre-order on BarnesandNoble.com.
Sarah Carter, Fox News contributor, investigative reporter.
It was March 7th of 2017 when she and John Solomon broke the story that there was apparently a FISA warrant involved with the Trump campaign.
It's taken us that long.
And even Paul Ryan is now saying, all right, it's time to end this ridiculous witch hunt to Robert Mueller.
Welcome, both of you.
I'm stunned by these comments of Brennan.
What do you think, Sarah Carter?
Well, I can't even imagine that he would even dare say what he said.
I mean, to think of saying it was okay to have a spy, an informant inside the campaign, inside the campaign.
And I wonder if they had any inside the Clinton campaign.
Did they have any inside the Obama campaign?
No, they did not.
Sean, this is a setup from the beginning.
And every time more and more information comes out, I think I'm more and more stunned, and especially at their own words.
This is coming from John Brennan and James Clapper, both of whom weaponized the tools of our intelligence community to spy on incoming president of the United States and even after, during the transition, because we know they unmasked so many Americans and at an expedient speed.
Didn't they unmask at a rate 350% higher in this presidential election year?
And wasn't people like Samantha Powers doing about an unmasking a day of an American citizen, which why would a UN ambassador ever unmask anybody?
That's right.
And more than 300 towards the end of her term.
And that was Americans, because her people in the campaign, as well as foreign nations speaking about the people in the campaign.
And I tell you this, Sean, I have one other really big question here because we know a lot of this, the events that culminated, that led to the opening of this counterintelligence investigation into Trump's campaign culminated and began in England.
I would like to know what the British think about this and what role the British had in this, because they must have had some role because these people were all on their territory.
And remember, there's quite a few still unanswered questions about the people surrounding George Capodopoulos.
And if they say he was the beginning, well, then I have questions about the people surrounding him, like Joseph Misludd, like Stefan Halper, Alexander Downer, the Australian ambassador.
What was going on there and what was going on in England?
These are questions that are still left unanswered, and I think there's more unraveling to do here.
Let me go to Greg Jarrett and let you weigh in on all of this.
And the only reason now we know that we're even learning about the spy is because the IG report is only a couple of weeks away.
And so the deep state that has known about the spy that was in the Trump campaign for the longest time, now Brennan actually saying it's a good thing, no problem.
Where's the warrant?
And why the double standard?
But I think this is all now a slow document dump on their part to take a lot of the sting out of the Inspector General's report, which likely will lead to criminal referrals.
Because so much of this activity in the Obama administration, whether it be Brennan or Clapper or Comey, McCabe, the list goes on and on.
This appears to be classic abuse of power, which is a crime.
18 U.S.C. 242, deprivation of rights under color of law.
An official is not, of the government, is not allowed to use their position to violate the constitutional rights of citizens.
And as you pointed out, it's the Fourth Amendment, unreasonable search and seizure, right to privacy by using an undercover agent to try to entrap people without legal justification to even open the investigation, either as a criminal investigation or a counterintelligence probation.
You pointed out the opening of this Russia probe had happened long before the so-called Papadopoulos meeting, when Strzok had just finished basically rigging the Hillary Clinton investigation when we know they covered for felonies and obstruction of Hillary Clinton.
Then they begin this effort under the guise that, okay, well, we're going to talk to, you know, this Australian envoy who got drunk with George Papadopoulos, and we'll have like five-way hearsay here, and we'll start this witch hunt this way.
That was all a charade devised by the FBI to cover up their misdeeds, and they peddled it to the gullible New York Times.
The truth is, it all began with Christopher Steele, an ex-British spy who's probably not ex at all.
He composed on June 20th, 2016, the first dossier alleging Trump-Russian collusion.
He then peddled that within weeks to the FBI.
An agent met with him.
And shortly thereafter, the FBI launched its illegal.
Can I interrupt you because you reminded me the other night on television that in interrogatories in a case in Great Britain, Steele is on the record admitting himself he doesn't think his dossier is true.
That's true.
I mean, it took a while for me to dig up these interrogatories because they're in a British court over a libel lawsuit.
And by the way, that's what we all do in our spare time.
Every one of us, we go dig up interrogatories in Great Britain because we're bored and we have nothing else to do.
Well, I know how to read them because I used to propound interrogatories.
You're doing it because this is how great your book is.
I'm totally being a jerk.
Tell me to shut up.
Well, it's in the book, and I quote his.
Kennedy's a jerk.
Great.
No, no, no.
I quote his answers to the interrogatories in which he essentially admits, well, you know, this is raw intelligence.
Not all of it's accurate.
It's 50-50.
You know, this is a guy who launched the Trump-Russia investigation that tried to bring down a president.
And frankly, he was just making most of it up.
And now he sort of admits it.
What's your take on all that, Sarah?
Go ahead.
Oh, but I think this, it goes, you're right on, Greg, but it goes so much further because remember, he was connected to people inside the United States intelligence community and the FBI, even before, before he put the dossier together, before he was hired by Fusion GPS and the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC.
This is somebody that they knew.
So the question here is this.
Did they utilize him to do this?
And I think more and more we are seeing that to be the case.
So they hire Christopher Steele because they've already known him.
They already have a relationship with him.
Let's not forget about Sidney Blumenthal and Cody Scheer and the people at the State Department that were very well connected to Christopher Steele and Cody Scheer's own dossier.
I mean, if you look at this on its face, I mean, it really appears to be that this was something that was pre-planned.
There was no evidence here that they stumbled on that required them to open up this investigation whatsoever.
We have not seen one ounce of criminality.
And that's why they had to open up this counterintelligence investigation.
I think Andrew McCarthy was right on the money with this.
They opened up this counterintelligence investigation because it gives them the latitude to weaponize and utilize our U.S. intelligence community to spy on the Trump campaign.
And all of the pieces are starting to fall and they're starting to fit and it's starting to unravel.
And now they're fighting back because they know this is all going to come out.
And believe me, other nations who know what went on here, they know they were played to.
And I guarantee you it won't just be us telling this story, but other intelligence agencies overseas.
All right, we've got to take a break.
We'll come back more with Sarah Carter and Greg Jarrett, and we'll take a little sneak peek.
Sarah's been digging deep and getting some insight into what is in the IG report that we are expecting.
Final half hour of the program, by the way, will update you on this horrible school shooting that took place in Santa Fe, Texas, and also give you a little preview of the Royal Wedding this weekend.
Ainsley Earhart is on the ground.
She's in London.
She'll report for us.
Sarah Carter, investigator reporter, Greg Jarrett, his new book coming out soon, The Russian Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton, frame Donald Trump.
We have a link on Hannity.com, soon to be in bookstores.
Sarah, I want to, you reported last night that this is going to be a very thorough Inspector General report.
Here's my fear.
It's already been handed to the DOJ.
They now have a chance to look at it.
They might try to redact information, again, in the name of national security.
They might have, they're going to try and weigh in and change some of the Inspector General's findings, correct?
I don't think they'll be able to do that, Sean.
And it's not just because I'm hopefully thinking that.
It's because I believe the Inspector General has done such a thorough investigation into this.
He is just presenting his report to these current and former officials, both in the DOJ and FBI, and then they will have a chance to respond.
So what they'll do is they'll respond to this report.
They'll make those attachments to the report.
And if there is something of national security concern, I'm sure he'll take that into consideration before he releases it to the public.
But I don't think it's going to change his mind on how he's presenting this report.
I don't think there's anything they can do to that.
Now, we're only speculating.
So are people who have seen the report, people who I've spoken with, that there's a possibility that there may be a criminal referral from Michael Horowitz to the Department of Justice prosecutors.
That's speculation.
We don't know this.
Now, he's holding this report very close hold.
So it'll be about three or four weeks before it's actually made available to the public.
But I really, really stress I don't believe that the Inspector General is going to be swayed.
I don't believe the Inspector General is going to change his mind.
It's going to be very similar to the McCabe report where they allowed Christopher Wray to view the report.
And once he did, guess what happened?
McCabe was fired.
And now there's a criminal referral on McCabe.
You think that this goes all the way?
Or are they going to find some sneaky way to maybe protect the deep state?
Greg Jarrett?
Well, they'll do everything they can to cover it up.
And Rod Rosenstein's at the head of the class on that.
And he receives the report from the IG under DOJ regulations.
And, you know, look, he's the guy who has fought and is still fighting to reveal information about the undercover informant that has already leaked out.
And this is the guy who's going to get an opportunity to take a whack at the IG report before it's made public.
I mean, that's like letting a dirty cop review and edit a criminal complaint against him in advance.
It is a, it's cropped.
I don't think when these regulations were enacted that anybody ever thought there would be this kind of a scenario with a Rod Rosenstein enabled.
All right.
I got to let it go there.
Thank you both.
You guys have been amazing.
Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, 800-941.
Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
We're going to update you on the Santa Fe, Texas shooting from earlier today.
I mean, another shooting.
We've been telling everybody how to protect our schools.
We have some of the sounds from that.
It's heartbreaking.
We'll go to London.
Ainslie Earhart is on the ground there.
She'll give us a report on the big Windsor wedding.
It's really a Cinderella story in so many ways.
I mean, I give all credit to Harry in this, and I'll tell you why when we get back on this Friday.
Hannity, tonight, we got an amazing show, why all of this is so much worse than Watergate and the latest on this terrible shooting, Nine Eastern.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour here on a Friday, and we will dispense with our usually, well, we usually have some fun at this time on Friday, our Florida Georgia Line Friday concert series with all the news breaking today.
Obviously, we're covering the story out of Santa Fe, Texas, another high school shooting, explosives found on and off campus after the shooting deaths, which would lead one to believe there's a much wider conspiracy involved in all of this.
We have fatalities, and here's some of what went down just a little before we went on the show today.
She called me.
She said, Mom, there's shots at the school.
I thank God was not far away, turned around, got here as quick as I could, stayed on the phone with her, told her to stay quiet, to stay calm, to breathe, and just waiting and waiting and waiting.
And finally, they were leading her out of the school.
Thank God she's okay.
Our assistant principal and our principal telling us to run and get across Highway 6, just get as far away from the school as we could.
And we all just, we knew that something was much wrong, much more wrong than just a fire.
We immediately saw 15 cop cars and sheriffs immediately just heading to the school.
And we just had no idea what was happening.
Just so sad.
That last comment was from a student.
You heard from a parent.
And, you know, what motivates such unmitigated evil?
So it's a question I don't know the answer to.
I don't know.
In this particular case, this guy walked right into an art class, apparently, and just opened fire on fellow students.
Now, we have talked at length about this issue.
It shouldn't be a political issue.
Every school in this country could get local police, law enforcement, the FBI, and they should get a full and complete threat assessment.
Entry points of the school have to be monitored.
We have to secure the perimeters.
The next thing I would do is you'd get metal detectors.
Every kid going into a school has to have identification, go through a metal detector so no weapons can be brought into the school.
And then the next thing is, of course, well, we need first responders there because most of these incidents are over in three minutes.
So on the floor of every school across America, we need retired police, military with weapons.
Anyway, joining us now to discuss this and so much more.
We actually had booked Ainsley Earhart, one of the co-hosts of Fox and Friends.
She is in London for the coverage of the royal wedding, which is taking place, I believe, 7 a.m. Eastern Time tomorrow.
A big congratulations.
Her now new book that has been out as a number one bestseller, three-time New York Times bestseller, three weeks in a row.
And it's a phenomenal book that talks about one individual's journey, her journey into life and success.
And it's very revealing and it's heart.
It's actually at times, it's heartwarming to know that somebody will share, you know, their own personal information to help other people.
Ainsley joins us from London.
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
I'm good.
I'm just listening to that coverage.
And sorry, I'm getting choked up because I have a child back home.
And my name, gosh, the lady who watches over my daughter is sending me all these pictures of my daughter.
And I'm listening to that coverage.
And it breaks your heart because families will not see their kids again.
And it's just hard.
It's just awful.
It's so sad.
I am all for arming the school resource officers and putting officers in our, you know, just to guard our schools because if someone did that to my child, I'm looking at these pictures of her that were just sent to me.
I feel so sorry for those families.
And it happens.
You know what the problem is?
It keeps happening again and again and again.
And this is not a political issue.
If people would just put aside the predictable gun debates, here's the question.
If you're in a municipal building, a school building, usually these are gun-free zones, but here's the question.
If you're a parent or a student, would you rather have on every floor of every school in America two retired, concealed-carried military police officers on every floor?
And my answer would be yes.
I don't know why we don't do it.
You know, we all raise our kids and you want to give them a better life.
And we work our tails off, Sean.
We work our tails off.
How many hours a day do you work?
You miss your kids' events.
I'm over here in London, and I enjoy this, and I love my job.
But I'm doing this to give my daughter a better life.
And every single decision I make is for my daughter.
Every single decision.
And that's why I appreciate and love my parents now.
And that's why we all hear you love your parents more when you're a parent yourself because you understand what they did and why they did it.
And so these parents who are left without their children because of one stupid jerk who goes into these schools with a gun and wants to destroy other lives, it makes all of us furious because you're changing the lives of these parents and their siblings forever.
And, you know, I believe in the afterlife and I believe in God, but when you see someone do this, honestly, I don't understand why they do it.
I really don't.
When I wrote the book, Deliver Us from Evil, and I did all the research for that book, the thing that really just jumped out at me is, you know, as I was, for example, I did a whole analysis of communism and, you know, Stalin and fascism and communism and Nazism and, you know, the killing fields, Cambodia.
You could take it from a macro level to that to a micro level and all these horrific evil school shootings.
And it's hard for good people, I think, to wrap their arms around the fact that there really is evil in this world.
And it's a dark place at times.
And often out of darkness comes, you know, incredible heroism.
We see that with first responders and police and law enforcement.
And I think it just is we have to recognize that there are these evil people because this keeps happening.
And we have a duty and a moral obligation now to never let this happen again.
The only way I know is to do what I suggested at the beginning of this segment.
To arm our officers.
Absolutely.
We're in London.
Sean, I'm walking around and I'm seeing all these police officers guarding us and they have batons.
They don't have guns.
What if some guy pulls out?
They don't have guns.
They don't have guns.
And I grew up in a family where my dad and my brother hunt.
And you have to, I am, I'm fine with guns.
I am, because I know you have to be responsible.
And we were taught to be very responsible.
We were taught to be scared of the gun, but also to know how to how to defend yourself.
Like my father, he has guns in our house in many of the rooms upstairs.
So if a protruder came into our house, he even talked to our pastor about it.
There was a guy who was breaking into all the houses in our neighborhood and in our neighborhood.
And he talked to the pastor and he said, is it okay if someone comes in, would God forgive me if I shot someone who came into my house?
And that's how good my dad is.
Because normally everyone would just say yes.
And my dad was in the military and he just still wanted to make sure that was okay.
We do have right as human beings to protect our liberties and our freedoms.
There's no doubt about it.
You taught me how to do it.
Well, I've been a marksman since.
Yeah, I personally have been a marksman.
My mom worked in a prison.
My dad was a family corporation officer.
I personally have been a pistol marksman since I'm 11 years old because my mother in particular kept a revolver loaded on the side of her bed and they wanted to make sure I was not a curious child.
And that I learned very, very at a very young age, safety, gun safety, security, how dangerous it was.
And I'm glad I did.
To be honest, let me move on one second.
First, I got to congratulate you.
Three weeks in a row, New York Times bestseller list.
We've had you on talking about the book.
It's called The Light Within Me, and it's in bookstores, barnsandnoble.com, Hannity.com.
If people want to get a copy, congratulations on the success.
The thing that really stands out is that you made a very conscious decision, obviously, to go to do a deep dive into your life and your spiritual journey and share it with other people, which I think is a very hard thing to do.
And if anybody heard you when we launched the book on the show for you, it really is hard to talk about a lot of these things, but you did it anyway.
Why?
Because of situations like this.
I just want to, I'm not trying to push my faith on anyone.
I just know what God did in my life.
And I was searching and searching and searching.
And so, you know, you never know.
We were out today in the middle of all this pomp and circumstance.
We're, you know, following the wedding stuff and we're in Windsor, right outside of the castle.
And there are people popping those poppers that make a loud noise.
Sounds like a gunshot.
It's like, oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Yes.
And so if you're ever in a situation like that, I just, I just want people to know my story and what God's done to my life.
I'm not trying to push it.
But if you're searching and you're in this hole and you feel like you can't get out, which is where I was, and I grew up in a Christian family, I just did not have a relationship with Christ.
And so finally, when I accepted Christ, because of all these friends that were surrounding me, I lived in, I grew up in the South, and that was such a joy because there's so many Christians there where you're surrounded with people who the reason the South is so nice and so good is because you were taught from an early age that just love other people and the love of Christ.
Yes, ma'am.
No, ma'am.
Yes, sir.
No, sir.
Yeah, you better get your yes, ma'ams in.
Now you learned that.
You learned that for respect.
Wow, I was not the best at that.
Oh, I wasn't the best at that.
I was an incorrigible child.
Incorrigible.
I swear.
You always use that word.
You always say that.
All right.
Let me ask you one question.
What did you do?
I did.
I was a horrible son.
I was just awful.
I just did what I wanted, and I never listened to anybody.
And I was rude and I talked back and I ran out of the house.
And I think I aged my parents.
You know, they both died fairly young, but I think I was so bad that I think I aged them at least 10 years.
Did they see your success?
Well, my father died six months after I started at the Fox News channel.
And he did, and I was on radio in New York at that time.
They had not heard my previous career at radio because I was five years Rhode Island, five years, California, two years, Alabama, four years Atlanta.
And then I made it back to New York.
And they would listen, they would watch the TV show.
I got them a satellite dish.
And then they would listen to the three-hour radio show.
And my mother would say, after my father passed away, six months after I started in New York, where the heck did all of this come from?
Because I never saw it.
Let me ask you this.
So I'm following, you're doing the coverage for the Fox News channel on this royal wedding.
It's at 7 a.m. tomorrow.
I guess coverage starts before that.
And I'm watching this story.
And it really, to me, is a Cinderella story.
And I'll tell you who the hero to me is, is Harry.
And I'll tell you why.
Because, you know, here is a girl whose father just had a heart attack.
You have a stepbrother that's saying, Harry, writing notes, don't marry my sister.
The father, you know, selling pictures.
The father's in.
The father's out of the wedding.
I mean, just driving everybody nuts.
And it just doesn't seem to have phased Harry that he loves this woman.
I know, right?
So I'm reading a book right now about her.
And a brother said this, quote, talking about her dad.
He was so happy.
He spent every minute with her.
My dad was more in love with her than anyone else in the world.
And that included Doria, which is his wife, his second wife.
She became his whole life, his little princess.
She was just blown away by Megan.
He was just blown away by Megan.
So I thought, wow, he really loves her.
He won the lottery.
He won a $750,000 lottery ticket.
He gave it to his friend because he was going through a divorce.
He didn't want his wife to have that money.
And so he went through a divorce.
He was going through a divorce, gives it to his friend.
His friend cashes in on the ticket.
They start this jewelry company, this jewelry store.
And his friend, allegedly, according to this book I'm reading, runs away with the money.
So he has to declare bankruptcy, but he had just enough money left over to pay for her school.
And it sounds to me based on this book I'm reading and other articles that I've read that he really loved her.
But when you read the statement where she says, I really care for my father, and her father's not walking her down the aisle.
And many people here in Windsor are upset or in London are upset with how the royal families handle that.
They wish that they had flown her dad over four weeks ago, taken care of him, put him up with security, and made sure he was fine and protected.
But he gets caught with these paparazzi photos.
And so many of us are asking, why did she release a statement that says, I really care for my dad?
Instead of, I care for him, I wish him the best kind of thing.
Whereas most of us would have said, I love my father and I am so devastated that he's not here.
So there's something we feel like is going on there.
But at the end of the day, she's an adult.
It's her life, right?
I mean, right, right.
There's a half-brother.
There's a half-sister involved.
The half-brother was arrested in January for grabbing a gun, pressing it against the head of his girlfriend.
So, I mean, that's.
I'm sure the queen is loving all this.
I know, I know.
The sister is writing a book.
They haven't talked.
They've been estranged for 10 years.
Sister's writing a book called The Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister.
So, you know, that's just awful.
That's awful.
People can be horrible.
They're not invited to the wedding.
Or should they be?
I've got to let you go because just for the constraints of time.
So you're in London.
What time does the coverage start tomorrow?
Cover starts your time, 5 a.m.
Okay.
And we'll be on through the wedding.
It's 12.
The wedding is at 12 here, which is seven year time, but we'll be on 5 a.m.
Fox and Friends First.
Well, actually, it's the weekend.
We're going to start earlier.
They don't have Fox and Friends First on Saturday.
So we'll start at 5 a.m. and then we'll go through the wedding.
All right.
Well, have a great time in London.
Ainsley Earhart, host of the number one morning show on cable, Fox and Friends.
And now her book, three weeks in a row, you can get it at barnesandnoble.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
It's called The Light Within Me.
And she'll be covering the Windsor wedding tomorrow.
All right, tonight, Hannity, 9 Eastern, the shocking comments of James Clapper.
Oh, it's a great thing to have spies in Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Really?
This is the United States, right?
All right.
Sarah Carter, David Limbaugh, Tom Finton, also the latest on this terrible shooting.
This one in Santa Fe, Texas.
Sebastian Gorka, Geraldo Rivera, Sarah Sanders.
She's going to join us.
Matchlap and so much more.
Nine Eastern tonight.
Hannity on the Fox News channel.
Set you DVR.
Have a great weekend.
We'll see you back here on Monday in our thoughts and prayers for the families that lost loved ones in Texas today.
