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You know, there's an amazing investigative report we're going to have later on in the program.
This whole Imwan Iran scandal with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, we now have new information after months of looking for Russia-Russia-Russia collusion.
That we now have information that all of that classified top-secret information on hard drives of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others were literally handed right over to Pakistani intelligence agents, and nobody in the media has been covering.
The only guy that has has been Luke Roziak, and he's going to blow it wide open today.
Some of the quick headlines: we're going to get into all of this.
Now, the Justice Department is launching an investigation into Comey.
We'll get to that.
We have the lead New York Times reporter for the Clinton campaign admits she cried when Hillary lost.
I'm like, really?
Also, we have enraged Democrats now.
Now that there's no Trump-Russia collusion, they have launched a lawsuit.
This takes cry babyism to a bigger level than Chuck Todd of NBC.
But it's all true, and it's all happening.
And this is, I guess, the world that we're all living in, unfortunately, here.
But let me start with, you know, what an incredible week this has been, especially in light of so many of you have been saying to me, when's it going to happen?
You keep telling us this, this, this, and this.
You're showing us the evidence every night, but nothing is happening.
Nothing is happening.
Well, it's now happening.
And is it as fast as it should?
No.
As fast as we want, no, but it's happening.
Now we have Ron DeSantis criminal referrals for all of these deep state actors and then some, including Hillary Clinton, including Loretta Lynch, including Strzok and Page, including Comey, including McCabe, including all those that were involved in the dossier.
Then you've got the independent inspector general and his recommendation, his criminal referral, not Donald Trump's, for Andrew McCabe in his case of lying under oath.
And now we have today, now the Justice Department.
And how many times, Linda, did we warn James Comey that he should not write this book?
It's not going to work out well for him.
It's not working out well.
Yeah, we even have a stager to tell him to, you know, remain silent.
I tweeted at him.
You do have a reminder, the right to remain silent.
I actually tweeted this to him, and I suggest you use it.
Anyway, now Jim Comey, the Justice Department, is now probing Comey's memos over classified material.
This goes to the heart.
Those are the memos that he leaked to his Columbia professor friend for the purpose of launching the special counsel with his other buddy, Robert Mueller.
I mean, in other words, it could have been predicated just on a criminal act itself, which is unbelievable when you look at this on the surface.
Anyway, the Justice Department, now their internal watchdog is reportedly looking into these memos containing classified information.
Everything goes back to 18 USC 793.
That was the whole reason.
Remember, I remember James Carville once said the reason Hillary didn't want to put her information in the proper server within the government is because she didn't want people like Louis Gobert going through them.
Oh, okay, so she's going to circumvent the law in the process of all of that?
Well, it didn't help her.
And it all begins there.
Do you realize this whole mess all comes down to people protecting the corrupt actions of the Clintons?
I suspect she didn't want Louie Gomez rifling through her emails, which seems to me to be a kind of reasonable position for someone to take.
So it amounts to, just like everything else before it, it amounts to nothing but a bunch of people flapping their jaws about nothing.
Well, it just happens to be, James, a violation of the law, mishandling classified information and destroying such.
And that's why, and we'll play the cuts later.
That's why this question that James Comey gets, well, what about destroying emails?
Well, there's got to be intent.
Okay.
The intent is obvious because the emails she destroyed were under subpoena.
At that point, she doesn't want people seeing them.
And nobody ever heard of 33,000 emails just being deleted.
And at one point, she said they went through them one by one.
Her lawyers went through, which turned out not to be true either.
And then I don't think anybody had ever heard of BleachBit, which acid washes clean your computer hard drive until Hillary Clinton and her team of obstructors in this case used it.
And then whatever, and Comey trying to explain away, well, you know, people don't want their personal information getting in the hands of others.
So it's, you know, we have to see the intent of breaking up those devices.
Yeah, we know what the intent was.
It was to circumvent the subpoena.
And all of that, that all rises to the level of obstruction of justice.
That's why all of these people now are beginning to find themselves in trouble.
And the oddest thing of all is there's never been any Trump-Russia collusion.
But there's been Russian interference and Russian collusion, and we know where it came from.
It was bought and paid for by, let's see, Perkins Cooey funds Fusion GPS because they funnel the money through the law firm right into Fusion GPS.
They're paying Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele gets Russians and Russian government lies that they can manipulate the American people.
And it gets worse from there.
And then it becomes, oh, let's not verify the information the way the law, what the law calls for or what FBI protocols call for.
No, let's just present it to the FISA court judge in a FISA court warrant and let the FISA judge then give the application, the approval so we can spy on an American citizen, a Trump campaign associate, in the lead up to an election.
But we're not going to tell the judge we know that it's not verified.
We're not going to tell the judge that nobody corroborated it.
As a matter of fact, even when they knew it was lies during their subsequent reapplications, they never told the judges that some of this isn't true.
And we've never verified a single point in it.
And you have all these people out there trying to do this big, deep dive.
Is it true?
Is it true?
Hookers, hookers, hookers?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Anyway, so the warrant is granted, and they never say Hillary paid for it.
This is why we are where we are.
So the Justice Department now has launched their investigation on top of a week of criminal referrals that we've now gotten.
Now an investigation into James Comey, which we predicted would also happen.
In this case, and there's probably more coming.
In this case, it was for leaking classified material in the Comey memos to his friend who shared it with the New York Times.
Now, we have been warning Comey day in and day out that this would all backfire against him.
And when he was asked by, I think it was Bill Ritter of ABC 7, a local station in New York City, I don't know, I've never heard of Sean Hannity.
I've never watched this show.
I've heard he says stuff about me, but that's it.
You never watched this show once, not one time.
Too bad, because it could have helped him.
Now, the Justice Department didn't just get these memos.
They've had them from day one.
This is the sad part.
We have been on this now for over a year.
They could have launched this probe any time in the last year, but for whatever reason, they didn't.
And then Comey starts popping off on every TV show that he can find, acting like a rock star that he's out on tour, getting more exposure than Kim Kardashian.
And I'll bet, by the way, somebody at the Justice Department probably is not too pleased about this because now he's under an official investigation.
I tried to warn him.
And the Justice Department Inspector General is now conducting this investigation into the classification issues related to the Comey memos, according to a person familiar with the matter.
It's the very same thing that his number two McCabe is in trouble for, leaking to the media.
It's the exact same.
Now they're fighting each other, Comey and McCabe.
And if McCabe, if there's a criminal trial, witness number one is going to be James Comey who launched the investigation.
Now there's great hatred amongst all of them.
It's unbelievable.
Now it gets even sicker than all of that.
What we learned this week was that Rod Rosenstein also told President Trump that he is not any target of investigation in any way as it relates to the Mueller investigation, which is revealing in so many different ways, which means, even though we knew collusion was never a crime, but it means there never was any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
The only thing going on now has spread out into the weeds so deep it has nothing to do with the original mandate.
And that is problematic with the special counsel law to begin with.
And now, so with all of that now, that realization descending down upon the media and the Democratic Party, they're now in freakout mode.
Now, we learned from the Comey memos released last night.
I think the biggest revelation, well, one is, I'm not sneaky.
I don't leak.
Those are the words of Jim Comey in his own memo.
Meanwhile, he leaks.
And he was sneaky.
He was sneaky when he went to the FISA court as part of the application process.
And even though it wasn't verified, well, it was used as the bulk of information to get a warrant to spy on an American, a Trump campaign associate.
And three months later, Mr. Sneaky goes to Trump and says it's unverified and salacious.
Okay, that sounds sneaky, and he did leak to his professor friend.
But the other part of the Comey memo that I think just jumps out at us is the fact that, you know, James Comey wrote in his own notes, not only did Donald Trump tell him not to stop the investigation, he said, if anybody associated with me is involved, I want you to pursue it fully.
Well, that takes care of A, him wanting to end the investigation, and B, him obstructing any investigation.
In his own words, it's right there in his own notes.
So with all these developments, the Democratic Party is in a meltdown and a panic because their precious year and a half lie, their conspiracy theory, their Russia gate hoax has gone up in smoke right before their eyes.
Rosenstein tells Trump he's not a target.
The Comey memos come out, and the only thing they prove is that there was never any need for a special prosecutor in the first place.
Now we got Rudy Giuliani joining Trump's legal team, predicting this is going to be over sooner rather than later.
And the whole fiasco and the whole mountain of lies that they built, you know, is now backfiring in their face.
Oh, and Andrew McCabe gets a criminal referral from the IG.
And McCabe, Comey, Rosenstein, Strzok, and Page, they get criminal referrals from the House.
And Democrats, who've been counting on this made-up Russia scandal to destroy the president for over a year, they're now raging.
They're beside themselves because they bet it all, the whole farm that Robert Mueller would end up getting rid of President Trump for them and undoing an election.
Well, that's what this nutball lawsuit by the DNC that was filed this morning is all about.
They have basically given up on Robert Mueller.
So they're now launching another Russia investigation just by liberal Democrats, though, not by anybody else.
As if we didn't have enough Democrats investigating him on Mueller's team.
We'll get back to this in a second.
What a week this has been.
What a week of news.
I'll try and break it down more when we get back.
And we have a lot coming up in the course of the program today.
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This is vindication.
This is everything you need to know is true that Trump-Russia collusion never happened.
Because there's no faith.
The committees are now finishing up and wrapping up their work.
Mueller, I mean, the admission of Rod Rosenstein talking to the president last Thursday saying, yeah, no, we're not looking into you at all anymore on either case, the New York case or Robert Mueller.
And that means what?
They didn't find collusion of any kind.
And because there never was any.
Now, when does the media go back and apologize to their viewers and their listeners about the hysteria and the lying that took place over this period of time?
When do they begin the investigations into, let's see, unmasking and literally surveillance and raw intelligence being leaked.
When do they begin the investigation?
Did Hillary really commit crimes and we basically covered up for her?
And we were running defense for her.
Meanwhile, if it was a Republican, they would have been all over such a person if they were acid washing and deleting and beating up devices that were subpoenaed.
When are they going to go back to that part?
When are they going to look at a system or a justice system that says, oh, as long as you're friends with somebody, you can write their exoneration.
You can have, in a political year, the biggest Trump hater interview Hillary in the investigation, then immediately exonerate her because the exoneration was written months earlier and not see that that was all rigged.
That was fixed.
You see, that was their candidate.
Their candidate at that point in time had to be in the race, or there would have been just massive upheaval.
That was their biggest contribution to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
And then, of course, in the lead up to all of this, nobody paid any attention that she fixed the primary against poor Bernie Sanders.
To me, that's a big issue.
And then that drags us right back to where we were with the phony Russian paid-for dossier with Russian lies and propaganda.
How does this happen in the United States?
And then on top of it, you got the biggest abuse of power scandal.
They missed it.
They missed it all.
And they're still going to miss it.
And they're still going to breathe hysteria.
And they'll probably now just latch on to the Democrats because they've failed at such a spectacular level in doing their jobs in the media, which proves a lot of points.
Journalism being dead, one of them.
And number two, they're just an extension, not only of the Hillary campaign, but all things Democratic.
We'll continue.
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We have new emails out that bolster the claims that the FBI and the DOJ have, in fact, been coordinating on the Clinton case response.
Now, these emails have now been revealed, and Fox News has a copy of them from February of 2016, suggesting the FBI and the DOJ together were working to craft a response to a key development in the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
Now, why would the FBI and the DOJ be working together to help Hillary Clinton?
Oh, that's right, because they're all friends.
I forgot.
How did I forget that?
Anyway, raising new questions about this concern of coordination because you're talking about two of the top agencies that are supposed to be separate and apart from politics.
That's not the case.
We now know.
Now, the emails concern the period of after 22 messages with top secret information were actually found on the former Secretary of State's personal email server.
Now, Congressman Mark Meadows of North Carolina cited them in a letter earlier this week claiming that the former FBI Director James Comey's testimony in which he downplayed the FBI DOJ coordination on the Clinton case is at odds with documents suggesting there was frequent coordination.
Now, specifically, Comey, this is more problems for Comey, in other words.
Comey specifically said in public testimony he didn't coordinate with the DOJ for his July 2016 public recommendation not to pursue charges against Clinton.
All right, that was three days, it was July 5th, three days after they finally, Peter Strzok, interviewed Clinton.
But remember, Strzok and Comey were putting together their exoneration letter in May, long before they interviewed Clinton or 17 other key witnesses.
So the timing is absolutely crucial here.
Anyway, so that's just, this is the testimony that he's saying.
He never coordinated at this crucial time in the investigation.
And he said that in a July statement and the period in February that we're talking about.
So while the FBI is part of the Justice Department and communication between the two agencies is inevitable, Meadows' letter is suggesting here that some at the FBI were concerned about the perception it was not acting independently in this politically explosive case.
Now, the February messages that now have been reviewed by Fox News, it starts on February 8th of 2016.
We're heading into the election year.
And when Gregory Starr, then the Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security, told FBI head of counterintelligence Bill Prestap that the State Department was prepared to punish those responsible for the misplaced messages.
Quote, the Department of State is prepared to take appropriate administrative action for any instances of mishandling classified information in accordance with our own internal processes.
Now, Starr wrote that.
However, the official added that the department did not want to hinder the ongoing FBI investigation and, if instructed, would postpone any administrative action over the emails until after the Bureau's case is concluded.
Wait a minute.
I thought they weren't coordinating here.
Five days later, February 13th, an unidentified senior Justice Department official wrote to FBI agent Peter Strzok, Jonathan Maffa of the FBI's Criminal Division and Bureau's Office of General Counsel, as well as members of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Virginia.
Quote, wanted to make sure the DOJ is kept in the loop as response is drafted, wrote the unnamed official in the Justice Department's National Security Division.
Quote, we have discussed a bit more here at CES and have some additional thoughts on the best response on the administration action in question.
Can we make sure we discuss as a group as the response is put together?
Now, CES appears to refer to the Justice Department's counterintelligence and export control section.
Now, that section was led by David Loffman, who left the department this past February, citing personal reasons.
The State Department took no immediate administrative action over the 22 top-secret emails that ended up on Clinton's server.
Remember, she originally claimed it wasn't there.
And many of those involved the matter that matter had left the department by the time the FBI investigation closed in July of 2016 when Comey said he's not doing anything.
And it's getting very, very interesting here.
The whole thing.
I think my favorite part is James Comey.
I'm not a sneak and I don't leak.
I don't do sneaky things.
Well, of course, he did leak to his friend, the Columbia professor.
Anyway, also, Comey in the memos details Flynn's conversation, claiming Russian tape reports could be made up.
Oh, well, he still doesn't know if they're true, indicating with George Stephanopoulos.
In other words, saying that, well, anything is possible.
It could be true.
It's possible.
I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don't know whether the current president of the United States with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013.
It's possible, but I don't know.
Possible, but I don't know.
Well, then why did you use it for a FISA court warrant, the bulk of information to obtain that warrant?
And your number two, Andrew McCabe, saying there wouldn't have even been an application but for that.
You know, Comey's memo indicates the dossier briefing of Trump was a bit of a setup.
You know, of the thousands of articles, you know, promoting, this was written by Molly Hemingway for the Federalist.
Of the thousands of articles promoting the still unproven theory of treason and collusion as it relates to the president in Russia, few are as significant as CNN's January 10th story.
Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him.
Extremely well-placed sources told fake news CNN, the Obama administration's top intelligence appointees had briefed Obama, Biden, and Trump all about a dossier they took incredibly seriously and considered credible, and it sounded really bad as the headline indicated.
Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Trump, CNN declared.
Now, BuzzFeed then published the actual dossier within minutes of CNN's story going live, showing the world that the dossier was riddled with salacious gossip that lacked even a possibility of any corroboration.
Now, you know, the whole thing here has been rooted in a lie.
And they really, the thing that's so fascinating about this is they want to keep the lie going.
You know, House Republicans committee chairmen say the documents prove that Comey never felt obstructed.
You know, the Republican chairman of three powerful House committees, you've got Devin Nunes, Bob Goodlatt, and Trey Gowdy.
You know, they look at these memos last night.
You know, it would be defense exhibit A if Trump were charged with obstruction of justice.
And they're absolutely right.
We've long argued that the former director Comey's self-style memos should be in the public domain subject to any classification redactions.
These memos are significant for both what is in them and what is not.
And then the three chairmen questioned, well, Comey never wrote that he felt obstructed or threatened while feeling the need to memorialize conversations with President Trump rather than conversations with any Democrats, at least two different standards in his interactions with others.
And the memos also lay bare the notion that former Director Comey is not motivated by animus.
And they added about the memos that were released to lawmakers and obtained by Fox News last night.
In his eyes, the real crime was his own firing.
They said the memos made clear that Trump wanted allegations of collusion, coordination, and conspiracy between his campaign and Russia fully investigated.
And he said, if it's anybody close to me, I want you to investigate it.
The salacious, unsubstantiated allegations were denied by the president from the get-go.
It's unbelievable.
The whole thing has been one huge, massive lie, conspiracy, and witch hunt.
All right, let's go to Jared is in Columbus, Georgia.
Jared, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Oh, I'm good.
Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
I'm a big fan.
No, thank you, sir.
Glad you called.
Yes, sir.
I just wanted to make a quick point.
I think you are 100% correct.
I think that journalism is dead.
But I wish I had confidence in the fact that anything good was going to come from this investigation.
I just think that the corruption is just way too deep.
I hope I'm wrong.
But, you know, I hope that we can get some justice.
I just don't.
I don't really have the faith and the system to get it done.
I don't have a lot of faith in the system either.
But look what's happened this week.
Look at all the criminal referrals this week.
You know, look at who got fired this week.
Look at the criminal referral today now and literally into James Comey himself.
Everything I warned this guy about, you know, if he would have taken my advice, he'd be in a lot better shape today.
I'll tell you that.
And what lawyer let him write that book is beyond any comprehension of mine.
It just, it makes no sense.
All these interviews makes no sense, none whatsoever.
There's a lot of folks that should have taken your advice, probably should have taken it, and they'd be better off.
But I don't think that's how the left operates.
It's amazing that, you know, one of the things we were so confident, and as we have been deeply exposing this every day for over a year now, is that we had evidence.
We had information.
We had sources.
For a long time, I've known things that I couldn't even say on the air that were coming true.
And I honestly don't think these so-called journalists even pick up a phone any day.
You know, they're too busy, you know, taking whatever the rip and read headline is against Trump, and that's what they call a newscast.
It's kind of pathetic and lazy.
That's why I say they're lazy and they're overpaid, and they are.
Bob in Boca Raton, Florida.
How are you?
I'm doing well, Sean.
What concerns me is that there's people out there, even though you lay out the case so, so clear for people with the facts, that they just hate Trump so much, they don't even want to listen to the facts.
Even when I tell them, listen to Dershowitz, the icon of the liberals, and they don't want to hear it anymore.
They just hate him so much, and they're going to go to the polls and just vote against and try to give the Congress back to get him impeached.
Well, I think that's all true, too.
And I also think the fact that we've been so effective is one of the reasons, you know, I mean, what we've gone through this week is like, you would think I'm a candidate to running for president in terms of every single aspect of my life has been investigated.
Every bit of it.
Linda, true or false?
Every aspect.
100% true.
It's ridiculous.
I mean, you know, they've been trying to find this.
Now it's just that they can't have this guy on the air.
He's too close to the truth.
Pretty amazing.
You know, I thought these are people on the left.
Let me tell you, there's well-paid people, and I've been very upfront about this with all of you that are being paid to monitor every conservative on the air for the purpose that they say one thing they don't like, and then they can figure out ways to start boycotts, shut down, silence speech that they don't agree with.
And for the media to be so wrong for so long and have so much egg on their face, all it is is ratcheting up their hatred for those of us that actually did our jobs and have been right.
The same people that never thought Donald Trump can win, the same people that never vetted Obama, the same people that never told you the atrocious record of Obama after eight years of his hope and change that didn't work out well.
Donna and Frederick Maryland next on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
You know, this country has been waiting a very long time for justice with respect to this.
And I really hope Rudy Giuliani can get to the bottom of it in a fairly timely manner.
What really bothers me is we've had a circle fest of communists masquerading as Democrats, some of them even Republicans.
And we look at this cabal and everything revolves around anti-Americanism.
And it's the cover-up for Hillary and Obama and them wanting to put an end to America as it is, as it's founded.
And also my second point I want to make is there are lots of people out there, Sean, that really admire you and support you for what you're doing.
We will not be silenced as conservatives.
We love our country.
We want to remain a free nation.
And by the grace of God, that will happen.
Well, I agree.
You know what?
There's a lot at stake here.
It's the greatest country on earth that God ever gave man.
And you know what?
If they can get away with warrants that are bought and paid for by political opponents to spy on us or spy on other Americans, we're in trouble.
You know, if we have a two-tier justice system, we don't apply the laws equally, no equal justice under the law, no equal application under the law, and we don't have a constitution.
You don't have a constitution, you don't have a country.
It's really that simple.
It's complicated on the one hand, but it's simple on the other.
I don't know what happened to the bumper music there.
Was that you?
Oh, now we found some country you decided to change in the middle.
Is that it?
All right, when we come back, Tom Fitton Judicial Watch fighting to get so many documents.
He even said the struck page memorandum text may take three years to get all 47,000 of them.
Why don't they just hit send?
How hard is that?
And much more coming up straight ahead.
Justice Department Inspector General sending a criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney in D.C. regarding your former deputy, Andrew McCabe.
They did this after releasing a report, including McCabe repeatedly lied to investigators and to you about a leak to the Wall Street Journal in which he confirmed or he had people leak to the Wall Street Journal confirming the existence of an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
If they ultimately bring a case against Andrew McCabe, would you be a witness for the prosecution?
Potentially.
I don't know whether the reporting is accurate.
I know it's CNN reporting, but I don't know it of my own accord.
But sure, given that the IG's report reflects interactions that Andy McCabe had with me and other FBI senior executives, I could well be a witness.
But isn't that kind of cute?
I mean, you're not saying that you have evidence of it.
You're just saying it's possible.
I mean, do you have evidence that President Trump has been compromised by the Russians?
Have you seen evidence of it?
No, and I think I've said that throughout.
I'm trying to be transparent as here's my reasoning.
Here's why an honest answer has to be it's possible.
Now, I'm not saying it's likely.
In fact, I've said all along, and I'm repeating it to you here today, it's unlikely in my view, but it's possible.
Why wouldn't smashing of cell phones and the destruction of thousands of emails during an investigation clearly be obstruction of justice?
That's a great question.
That's the first time I've been asked that.
And the answer is it would depend upon what the intent of the people doing it was.
Lots of people smash their cell phones so they're not resold on the secondary market and your personal stuff ends up in somebody else's hands.
But if you smash your cell phone knowing that investigators want it and that they've cut a subpoena for it, for example, that is a different thing and can be obstruction of justice.
The law requires intent?
Yes, it requires not just intent, but that prosecutors demonstrate corrupt intent.
While you were director of the FBI, and he was your deputy, was there clarity under your leadership about talking to the press, about the issue of leaks, about who could authorize people to discuss things with reporters?
I think so.
There were two people who could authorize disclosures, the director and the deputy director.
So Andy had the authority to speak to the media and to authorize communications with the media.
Do you think he improperly spoke to the media in that capacity then?
I don't know for sure.
I know that he didn't tell me about it, didn't ask me about it before he did it.
I think the Inspector General's report is right in that respect, and I would have expected that, but I think he had the authority to do that.
And I think if he were here, he might say, well, I didn't need to talk to the boss because I had the authority to do that.
And that's a hard one because given all that was going on at that point in time, I would have expected him to talk to me.
But I think as a matter of rule, he had the authority.
All right, that, of course, the ongoing, I'm the greatest, most arrogant person on earth, James Comey, Booktor.
I love what Newt said that he's shrinking in every interview, and it's definitely true.
We're going to get to your calls in the course of the program today.
Also, Luke Roziak has an amazing new breakthrough as it relates to Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the IT scandal with Imran Iran.
It looks like Pakistani intelligence were fed top secret classified information, and our government did nothing again.
Anyway, the Justice Department, our other big news today, their internal watchdog now reportedly looking into the memos containing classified information that James Comey gave to a friend last year, which now is putting the former FBI boss in the crosshairs of a probe, just as his former deputy faces possible criminal investigation over a separate leak.
Now, we know that two of these Comey memos had material now deemed classified, which is now prompting the Inspector General investigation.
Look, how many times did I warn James Comey writing this book was not going to end well?
Writing the book was a dumb idea, and going on the book tour, even a dumber idea.
Now, with all of this going on, our friends at Judicial Watch have now sued the Department of Justice for Comey Mueller Communications.
And we're going to get a deep dive into that as well today.
So much going on, so much happening in the world as we speak.
Anyway, joining us now is Chris Farrell.
He is the Director of Investigations for Judicial Watch, and Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch.
Tom, let's start with you and the news first, and that is Justice Department's watchdog now looking into James Comey, just like there's been a referral in the case of Andrew McCabe.
Yeah, it's an extraordinary development.
It puts James Comey in the position that Hillary Clinton was in, less of a position because it's only an internal watchdog.
But as you know, the prosecutors are waiting for any information from the IG before acting.
And I just can't believe after all of this, it's come back around to James Comey, may have improperly mishandled classified information, shared it as part of a vendetta to get Donald Trump, and he's facing as much criminal liability as his number two guy, Mr. McCabe.
You know, one of the problems, I think you need to explain people, we do have a Freedom of Information Act.
And when I read that you are told that it's going to be three years just to get the, what, other 47,000 struck page text messages to you, why do they keep stonewalling?
Why do they slow walk?
Why does it take a member of Congress threatening to hold them in contempt to ever get them to move on even little items like the Comey memos, for example, last night?
Well, because the Justice Department and the FBI think they're above the law.
They don't think they answer to the president.
They don't think they answer to Congress.
These Comey memos, we've been suing for almost a year for them.
CNN's also been suing for them.
And as you point out, it took threats of contempt and really personal liability from Congress in order for them to turn over the documents.
And now we see in the documents themselves, there was no basis, Sean, credible basis for any criminal investigation of the President of the United States.
And that's why they've been withholding the information, because it helps President Trump, and the other information they're withholding obviously hurts Mrs. Clinton.
It is corrupt to the core.
Yeah.
Now tell me as an investigator or the director of investigations for Judicial Watch, what do you do, Chris?
Because I assume it's part of your job to get these people to release things they don't want to release.
Yeah, Sean, we're the kickoff point.
Within our organization, the Investigative and Research Department is really the starting point for a lot of this Freedom of Information Act investigations that we do.
We file the requests, we track them.
When we get documents back, we do all the analysis.
And then in instances where we don't get a response, which is what Tom referred to a moment ago, where they like to stonewall and double talk, that's when we hand these cases over to our litigation department.
The lawyers then go into court and sue in U.S. District Court to compel the government to abide by the law and turn over the records.
And that unfortunately, very often, particularly with these very contentious high-profile cases, we have to get in front of the federal judge in order to get the attention of the particular agency we're looking at.
Yeah.
Well, which agency, have some agencies been more transparent than others, more willing to cooperate than others?
These are differences without a distinction or vice versa.
It depends.
When it's some self-serving congratulatory thing, they race to get the documents out when it's sticky or inconvenient or awkward.
Or frankly, when it protects the establishment, capital E, then there's the usual long song and dance about that don't have resources, they don't have staff, they have too many requests.
There's 101 reasons why they can't do it when it's something that might be embarrassing to the deep state.
Yeah.
You know, Tom, I just love the work that you're doing here, but the wheels of justice now.
All right, so it's finally caught up for McCabe.
It looks like also Comey now finds himself in a bit of trouble.
Is there any doubt in your mind that what he released was classified?
And is that now going to be, are they going to prosecute that to the fullest extent of the law?
Well, that's the big doubt.
He should have taken those documents to begin with.
You know, Sean, it's interesting when we sued for him, the government told us, this Justice Department said we couldn't have them because Mueller was using them.
And secondly, any leak to the New York Times, because we were making the point, wait, the New York Times gets this information.
We're not allowed to look at the memos.
And the government's response was, that leak was unauthorized and they compared it to WikiLeaks.
And that was last year.
And they still haven't done anything.
And it's only going to be from public pressure from Congress, the American people, and through the media that the Justice Department does the right thing.
Because if left to their own devices, you will have more books like James Comey's and no accountability for the criminality that went into creating the book, which is taking documents he had no right to and using them to write a book in addition to using them to get this special counsel operation, which has zero basis going.
Yeah.
We, at the end of the day, I want to get your thoughts on Comey's week because when he said, well, it's probable, it's possible that the dossier, some of the information in the dossier could be true, none of which has been proven, none of it.
But we know it was used as the basis for the FISA warrant.
We know that Hillary paid for it.
We know she funneled the money through Perkins Cooey, the Fusion GPS, that hired a foreign national, Christopher Steele, who used Russian and Russian government sources to build a lying dossier against Donald Trump.
And not only was that designed to manipulate the American people in the lead up to an election, but then it's used as the bulk of information to get a FISA warrant.
The FBI under James Comey never verified it.
Three months later, he even said it was unverified.
They never corroborated it.
They never told the FISA judge that Hillary paid for it.
And they got their warrant.
Andrew McCabe actually said, without the dossier, we wouldn't have even had a FISA application.
What does that mean for the American people that some American could go after somebody they don't like, pay for Russian lies through a foreign national, bring that information that's not verified to a court and get a warrant to spy on an American?
What does that mean to this country, Tom Finton?
Well, it's troubling, obviously.
Troubling.
It's more than trouble.
But the crisis is continuing because the Mueller operation, there is no dossier.
There is no Mueller operation.
Without the dossier, you wouldn't have the Mueller special counsel.
Remember that ambush interview, that ambush reporting that Comey gave to President Trump about the dossier, an ambush orchestrated in the Obama Oval Office with the top national security officials of the Obama administration.
And his reaction to that led to Comey's firing, and Comey had a vendetta, and he used that as a basis to try to get the special counsel successfully appointed.
And the question I have is, is Mr. Mueller using this dossier?
I have no doubt he still is.
And if that's the case, then it ought to be, as I've always been saying, either shut down or pause till we get some accountability for the abuses you described.
What went on during the Obama administration was history.
What's going on now is a crisis because it's still happening and targeting the president improperly.
Well said.
All right, Tom Finton, thank you.
Chris Farrell, thank you.
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At the bottom of the hour, we've got a deep dive investigation with Luke Roziak, who's going to join us as we check in with Dan is in Traverse City, Michigan.
Dan, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Fantastic, Sean.
Great job, by the way.
Thank you.
Sean, look, on your show last night, you said this is the Mueller investigation.
This has got to end because it is the criminals are investigating innocent people.
You said it's got to win.
Well, the one person that can end it is Sessions.
And Sean, Nell, you have shown Sessions a movie for the past year that the cops and the prosecutors are dirty cops, dirty prosecutors, planting evidence, framing Trump and the people, putting them through hell.
And Sessions turns the movie off that you just showed him over the year.
And he doesn't walk out of his office and say, this is shut down because the police are dirty.
It's mind-boggling.
And now they're starting to wonder.
Now they're starting to indict the police and prosecutors, yet they're letting the innocent people continue to be investigated.
Look, we've laid out the case.
There's an interesting dynamic that's happening.
And at different points, as we've been going through this, probably the person that has complained to me the most that's actually a good friend of mine is Mike Myers.
And when is it?
It's all happening.
Andrew McCabe was fired.
Andrew McCabe, now we have a criminal referral.
Now we have the news that the Justice Department is, in fact, the Justice Department Inspector General is now probing Comey's memos because of classified information.
And what it's going to be is it's just going to be one issue after a day, day after day.
It's going to be like everything we've talked about is now going to happen.
And why it has taken this long, why they don't pay attention, why there's no sense of urgency in this, the sense that I have had and many of you in this audience have had, I can't explain.
It's inexplicable.
I mean, there's a reason that I am being attacked.
You would think, you can ask Linda more than me, you would think I have been so vetted in the last number of weeks, it's like I'm running for president.
True or false, Linda.
It's very true.
Every single aspect of my life is being vetted in the hopes that they find something so they can shut me up.
Well, the problem is, is I don't do the things that they suspect that I was doing.
Yeah, but I mean, the one good thing that comes from it is if you ever decided to run for president, the hard work is done.
The latest is they are trying to track down every business that I have ever been involved in in my life.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
Yeah, well the problem is now is that you're no longer allowed to have any business or any other interests ever.
Are they going to do this to every other anchor or is it just me?
It's just Sean.
Oh, it's just you, Sean.
It's just you.
Because they're on the other side politically.
They don't get this type of exam.
No, definitely not.
Well, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it is what it is.
But it's sad because what they really want to do here is shut down the messenger.
What they really want to do here is silence those they disagree with.
All right, got to take a quick break here.
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We'll come back and Luke Roziak at the bottom of this half hour.
Unbelievable new news.
Pakistani intelligence actually got into the computers with classified information of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others.
They have it all and nobody seems to care yet.
So probably in about a year from now, they'll start doing their job.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
Under my understanding, the Capitol Police is not able to confiscate members' equipment when the member is not under investigation.
It is their equipment and it's supposed to be returned.
Well, I think there's extenuating circumstances in this case and I think that working through my counsel and the necessary personnel, if that in fact is the case and with the permission of through the investigation, we'll return the equipment.
But until that's accomplished, I can't return the equipment.
I think you're violating the rules when you conduct your business that way.
And should expect that there would be consequences.
Not only I believe that I did the right thing, and I will do it again.
Because, as I said at the beginning of this conversation, there are times when you can't be afraid to stand alone, and you have to stand up for what's right.
And even in the face, there are times you have to spend political capital to do what's right.
Like I said, the easier thing to do for me would have been to just fire him.
Obviously, I was the person who's had the most political challenges in the last year, so it would have been much easier for me to just cut him loose and say, you know, I'm going to look out for my best interests rather than stand up for what I believe in.
But I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror every day.
And if there's one thing I'm going to make sure that I maintain is my integrity.
Well, he's not my staffer.
He no longer works for me.
And when he was arrested, I terminated him.
I kept him on the payroll during the time that he was not arrested and not charged with anything.
And that was because, as I said, that I was concerned about the violation of his due process rights and also that there were racial and ethnic profiling concerns as well.
I have maintained that it was important and will continue to maintain that when someone's due process rights are potentially being violated, that I'm going to stand up and make sure that people's rights are protected in this country.
That's the oath that I swore to uphold when I swore to uphold the Constitution.
And when he was arrested and due process was established, then I terminated him.
The public is rightfully very upset about how this was handled in the past and that this egregious example that's now being criminally investigated was allowed to occur.
They essentially hold the keys to the kingdom.
They can create accounts, grant access, view, download, update, and delete virtually any information within the office.
Because of this high-level access, an incompetent or rogue system administrator could inflict considerable damage to an office.
And the book end to the outside threat is the insider threat.
Tremendous efforts are dedicated to protecting the House against these outside threats.
However, these efforts are undermined when employees do not adhere to and thumb their nose at our information security policy.
Our view was how do you put as much control, internal control and control over access to sensitive networks?
So, you know, myopically, we can say, well, we should just control the employee.
But knowing that members do want to hire some of their own people, we had to work with that.
The key is just ensuring that we have those internal controls and sticking to them and that members respect the CAO's authority to, in a sense, discipline employees that may not be abiding by the rules.
Does that spell out what penalties are?
You can go to jail.
There aren't any penalties.
We just can't have this ever happen again.
All right, 24 now till the top of the hour, 800-941, Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
Now, we play these tapes to bring you back so you understand this entire controversy.
Luke Roziak, investigative reporter for the Daily Caller, is with us.
This is the Imwan Iran scandal.
And we have a major update this week and a major discovery because after months of looking for Russia-Russia collusion and millions of taxpayer dollars wasted on this special counsel, well, it appears the Democratic Party has their own collusion cover-up here.
Now, Luke joins us right now to give us an update on all of this.
How are you, sir?
I'm good, Sean.
I think you said it exactly right.
I mean, these are some of the worst fears about Imran Awan that we've had for a year now coming true.
There's evidence that Debbie Wassman Schultz's own IT guy may have been a Pakistani spy and that the Democrats brought these guys with connections to foreign governments into the United States.
It's also the worst fear for Democrats because they knew this was a possibility during the election and they intentionally looked the other way.
They allowed this guy to stay on the network, stay out of jail.
And the only reason they would have done that would be to avoid damaging this Russia narrative because this is the very time period during the election that they're constantly lecturing us about cybersecurity and foreign intelligence and hacking.
The Inspector General of the House of Representatives comes to them and says there appears to be nefarious actors on the network.
They appear to be inside threats.
The Democrats didn't even ask for a search warrant on them.
And so now a year later, I'm doing background on these guys.
The Daily Caller News Foundation sent someone to Pakistan to do some of this research for this latest story.
We're finding out stuff that the FBI didn't even ask about.
So these are very legitimate, very serious concerns tying this guy potentially to Pakistan.
Well, let's go through some of the evidence because I think so.
Imwan Iran, him and his family, they get caught for double billing.
That's where this all began, pretty much, right?
Right.
And then there are IT family members that work at McDonald's and another works for a car dealership.
So that makes us think that there's no specific IT skills involved, that they're being paid for no-show work, right?
Right.
Well, the double billing is what caught attention, what made the Inspector General look at them in the first place.
But then the Inspector General found that they were funneling data off the network and they were impersonating members of Congress and they were logging in.
Although they worked for 40 members of Congress, they were logging into other people's servers too who they didn't work for.
And some of these Democrats who they did work for fired them because there was all kinds of bad stuff going on and they knew it.
But the Democrats didn't really tell anyone.
They were pretty quiet about it.
And what did Imran Owan do?
He kept logging into the people who he had just fired.
Presumably he's murdered them because they fired him.
He's still getting in.
He's taking that data.
So we now know Imwan Iran's business partner in Pakistan is now saying the Awans were giving USP ports, in other words, transfer of data ports to Pakistani intelligence officials.
Is that confirmed 100%?
It's not confirmed that it was actually occurring.
What we know is that a close friend of the Awan family, his name is Rashid Minas.
He had a business with the Awans.
He's been very close to the whole family for many years.
He says that the Awans handed over USB drives to Pakistani intelligence operatives, particularly a guy named Raymond Malik.
And he swears that they were handing over these USBs.
He says his brother saw it.
And he says that Imran Awan bragged that whatever was on this USB had the power to change the U.S. president.
So those are obviously, it could just be Imran Awan boasting about how he's using his power to do who knows what, but when we see the Schultz.
Didn't Imran Awan tell people in Pakistan he had the power to change the U.S. president?
Correct.
And he traveled Pakistan with a motorcade of armed Pakistani government officials.
Correct.
So we were not able to substantiate one way or another whether Imran was really handing off these USBs, just because I don't know how you would go about confirming that 100%.
But the Daily Caller really did a lot of research on this story.
We went to Pakistan and what we confirmed, we know for a fact that Imran Awan, Debbie Wasserman Schultz's IT aid, traveled Pakistan with armed guards, with a motorcade of Pakistani government agents.
And that's not the kind of thing that an everyday IT guy would do.
It's not the kind of thing a normal person receives.
There was some reason why Imran Awan was receiving protection from the Pakistani government.
We know for a fact that he was receiving that protection.
We also know that he absolutely, everyone he met in Pakistan, he would say, you know, I have tremendous sway.
Politicians do are at my beck and call.
I can change the U.S. president.
I'm so powerful.
I have so many connections.
He was always bragging about this mysterious political influence that in reality he's just a keyboard jockey.
He's supposed to be like fixing people's keyboards or whatever.
So when he's over there, and we know for a fact that he was claiming that his position in the Congress gave him the ability to do all these terrible things.
So you combine that with the fact that the IG determined that sure enough, data was going off the network, and it's pretty hard to conclude anything other than this is what it sounds like.
The whole thing sounds just unbelievable to me.
And, you know, the idea that you're digging up more information, you and the Daily Caller traveled to Pakistan for the story, confirming a lot of the facts that you're now reporting.
The FBI never talked to the partner, even though he's publicly associated with the Awans and would be an obvious witness in any espionage case, correct, or investigation.
And, you know, now the question is, what did these members of Congress know?
When did they know it?
And then you have the father of Imran Awan, this ITA to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who investigators conclude had unauthorized access to these House servers, transferring the USB drive to, what, a Pakistani senator and former head of the Pakistani intelligence agency?
Correct.
And, you know, remember, you played the audio clip.
After the cops banned these guys from the network, Wasserman Schultz still left him on the network.
The Democrats were protecting this guy.
They were negligent.
And I think the Democrats put their own political reputation over national security.
I think Democrats may have almost willfully exposed us to a potential spy, or at least, yeah, the potential for a spy because of this.
It's all about the Russian narrative for them.
They would rather actually leave a spy on the network than to have the media start writing stories about how it was these on-vetted Muslims that they brought into Congress that were the real threats.
So Wasserman Schultz tried to block the FBI from actually seeing the evidence of what Imran Awan was up to.
And also after the police finally did ban him from the network over Democrats' protests, he still had a backdoor in the network through Andre Carson, who's one of two Muslims in the Congress, but more importantly, he is on the intelligence committee.
And so what they did is they blocked off Imram's email address, but he had a secret email address linked to Andre Carson's office, and it was 123 at mail.house.gov.
So this was this bizarre secret account that still gave him access to Congress even after he was banned for good reason.
Yeah, definitely.
All right, stay right there.
Luke Roziak, who's done amazing work, deep dive into all of this.
It seems very clear now that our security, our national security, our secrets, top secrets, classified information, again, have been compromised.
And there's been very little interest by the rest of the media because it doesn't involve Donald Trump.
It's pretty unbelievable to me.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Luke Roziak of the Daily Caller and his investigative report.
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All right, as we continue, Luke Roziak is with us with the Daily Caller as he continues his deep dive and dig into this IT, Imran, Awan, Debbie Wassum and Schultz scandal.
Yeah, classified information going to Pakistani intelligence.
I just can't believe that this is not a bigger issue and that the mainstream media has ignored all of this.
It is really, really pathetically sad that it could be at this high level.
What is your conclusion based on all of this deep dive you have now been doing in this almost single-handedly, and I give you so much credit for it.
What is your conclusion?
Where is this going to end?
Is it that this guy was involved with the Pakistani intelligence group and that serious, a very serious security breach has taken place where American secrets were handed over to Pakistani intelligence and it was coming right out of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's office and she did nothing to stop it in spite of all the signs that we had?
Well, one of the possibilities here is that not only was this information going to foreign intelligence services, but also that it was being used to blackmail members of Congress.
And so when you look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz, remember how she threatened the police officer and said there's going to be consequences, you can see it on her face.
So I think that there's potential that even right now, Democratic lawmakers are having to do the bidding of this guy who has them under their thumb because he's got all their emails and he's going to blackmail them.
And I think that Democrats are potentially doing some criminal behavior here as far as the cover-up of this.
And that's the lengths they would go to avoid disrupting the Russian narrative.
And Wassum and Schultz let this guy on the network after the police banned him by claiming that an IT guy didn't need access to the network.
So I think that was violating a police order if she did let him do that and putting her colleagues at harm.
But one of the reasons the media doesn't really talk about this is the Democrats pulled the same scam that they did with Fusion GPS.
With that, they got the FBI to take this dossier, and then they got all the reporters to write about it because they said, hey, the FBI is involved.
What they did with this is the opposite.
They prevented the FBI from investigating, and then they went around and they said, say, he hasn't even really been charged with anything.
So therefore, nothing went on because they know reporters are too lazy to do their own investigations.
They just want to cite what the FBI did.
So that's the gaping hole here, is that this evidence that I've uncovered is frightening national security breach.
Have you talked to the FBI members of Congress, key members, the relevant committees about this?
You know, one of the issues is the committee in Congress needs to do more.
The administration committee, that's the same committee that did the sexual harassment slush fund, and they have not been vigorous on this.
What you've seen instead is brave members like Louie Gomert and Jim Jordan and Ron DeSantis, and those guys have been all over this.
But the problem is, where's the leadership and where's the FBI?
So, you know, those same guys wrote that letter this week talking about the FBI, I think they called it differing degrees of zealousness, where when the FBI really wants to do an investigation, they're busting that doors, they're putting SWAT teams, they're going after Trump's lawyer.
And with this, these guys literally, after the IG found that they have Congress, then the server that had all the evidence disappeared and they didn't even execute a search warrant.
So talk about differing degrees of zealousness.
All right, we got to wrap things up.
Luke Roziak, thank you so much for being with us.
Keep up the good work, my friend.
Thank you.
Put yourself in Donald Trump's shoes for one second.
You're Donald Trump, and you feel this is unfair, this investigation.
You find out that Peter Strzok, the lead FBI agent, is texting somebody, disparaging things about you, and then you find out that he's the one that actually helped conduct the Hillary Clinton interview.
And he called you an idiot.
Wouldn't you think that this whole thing was unfair and politicized?
Sure, I get why he'd be very concerned about that.
It's the reason Bob Mueller removed Peter Strzok, who's an excellent agent, but removed him from that investigation.
It's poor judgment, and it shouldn't happen.
So I get the concern about it.
Your book is about leadership throughout.
Does it say anything about your leadership that Strzok, who is a very high-level FBI agent, was doing this?
Did you set in any way any sort of tone where that kind of glib insult of a major political candidate at the time would be not that big a deal?
No, but it does say something about my leadership.
I mean, I'm responsible for the senior members of my team, and I've asked myself the same question.
I tried to model a certain way of acting, which did not include that kind of behavior, but I asked myself, should I have given them all a speech?
But these are grown-ups.
These are senior people in the counterintelligence division.
I don't want to be too tough on myself, but yeah, I'm responsible.
I'm responsible for their actions and their poor judgment.
Why wouldn't smashing of cell phones and the destruction of thousands of emails during an investigation clearly be obstruction of justice?
That's a great question.
That's the first time I've been asked that.
And the answer is it would depend upon what the intent of the people doing it was.
Lots of people smash their cell phones so they're not resold on the secondary market and your personal stuff ends up in somebody else's hands.
But if you smash your cell phone knowing that investigators want it and that they've cut a subpoena for it, for example, that is a different thing and can be obstruction of justice.
The law requires intent?
Yes, it requires not just intent, but that prosecutors demonstrate corrupt intent.
Good people lie.
I lay out on the book, I think I'm a good person where I've lied.
I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person, but the Inspector General found that he lied and there's severe consequences in the Justice Department for lying, as there should be throughout the government.
All right, as we continue news roundup information overload hour, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941-Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
So we have the criminal referrals by Congress that take place on Wednesday night.
That's Ron DeSantis, and that includes Strzok and Paige and Hillary and Comey and McCabe and everybody else involved in the dossier.
Then, of course, yesterday we have the IG criminal referral as it relates to Andrew McCabe.
That coming from the Inspector General.
And we even have Comey admitting I started the investigation.
It wasn't Trump.
Now we have the Justice Department Inspector General now probing Jim Comey as we warned him would happen.
We said it over and over again.
What lawyer would let this guy write this book and go on a book tour?
Not only has he contradicted himself a million times, he has now put himself in even more legal jeopardy than even he ever obviously imagined.
Anyway, Geraldo Rivera is with us.
By the way, his new book is doing phenomenal, a bestseller.
It's called The Geraldo Show.
And Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent, NRA TV host.
Geraldo, fundamental things that you and I are going to disagree on here.
And it's really simple.
And I think this question about, well, intent for obstruction of justice.
If you got a subpoena for all your emails and you decide to sift through your emails and you're going to delete 33,000 on your own, and then you're going to acid wash your hard drive to clean it up and use bleach pit, which most Americans had never heard about except for Hillary Clinton.
And then you're going to beat up your devices with hammers.
You can talk about proportionality, prosecutorial discretion, all you want.
But the fact is those are all crimes as it is also a crime to circumvent congressional oversight by putting top-secret classified special access programming information in a mom-and-pop shop server bathroom closet that we know foreign intelligence agencies hacked into.
Those are all crimes.
So why shouldn't they have prosecuted it properly?
Well, it could be, nice talking to you, my friend.
It could be that it was a crime, but as former Director Comey suggests, you need corrupt criminal intent.
And it could be, for instance, to be a chauvinist.
Maybe there were emails about buying underwear or, you know, money.
33,000 of them?
33,000.
And this is the bottom.
Let me get to the bottom line.
The bottom line is, we're talking about criminal intent.
The bottom line is this was a rigged deal from the get-go.
The Democratic candidate was not harshly treated in the investigatory phrase.
I mean, until Comey killed her, you know, with his late in campaign, you know, suggestion that there were more emails to be investigated or poured through, which I think was the single biggest event dooming the Clinton candidacy.
But I also think that it is beyond a doubt that your central premise, Sean, is correct, that this was a rigged deal.
The attitude in the Bureau, the attitude in the DOJ was that Hillary was the certain winner.
They didn't want Donald Trump to be president.
Anything they could do to stop that within the parameters of legality, they were intent on doing.
Whereas in the Hillary Clinton investigation, they were as intent as possible to walk away from it after giving her a brief spanking.
So I think you're right that prejudice will be revealed, bias will be revealed, a stacked deck will be revealed.
But I think the real criminal liability here is in the face of Andrew McCabe.
And I look forward to the day when Andrew McCabe is on trial and James Comey is the prosecution's key witness and McCabe and Comey are pointing fingers at each other.
Well, it may happen in reverse.
David, you may have Comey having his own trial here.
Dan Bongino, I think you'll look at this from a different perspective because it was obviously the intent was there.
The underlying crime was 18 USC 793.
Then it was the obstruction crime.
But more importantly, then when you have Comey and Strzok writing the exoneration in May, they don't interview her or 17 other key people until July.
The fix was in.
The investigation was rigged.
Sean, I just have to correct Geraldo here for a second.
I always love debating Geraldo.
He's a good man.
And congrats on the good man.
No, I really do.
I appreciate your perspective on it, but you're not correct in this.
The laws governing the mishandling of classified information, although the legal standard is gross negligence.
Criminal intent is not there.
It is a gross negligence standard.
Now, doubling down, even if that were correct, criminal intent is evident too.
Geraldo, some of the information that appeared in the unclassified Hillary emails was taken from SCIFS, sensitive compartmentalized information facility.
Let me just explain quickly how this absolutely, even if intent was a standard, then you're wrong, too.
Because they had to go into a facility not connected to the open internet.
Somebody walked in there, took information, either wrote it down or screenshotted it, retyped it on an unclassified system, walked out of there, and sent it over an unclassified system.
Even if intent were the standard, which it isn't, there's a lower standard.
Hillary Clinton's team was guilty as sin, period, full stop.
I think that if you were correct, Dan, and I do not believe you are, there is not, Sean suggested that this information, this top-secret information, was leaked to foreign intelligence agencies.
I have not seen one shred of credible evidence that that's the case.
I have.
I have a personal source I worked with in my prior line of work, who I've written about before, who disputes your account strongly.
Matter of fact, from first-hand information, basically.
So, Geraldo, I'm just telling you, I like you a lot, man.
But that's not a hill to die on.
Trust me, Hillary Clinton's server, there is zero doubt in my mind, was absolutely hacked by foreign entities.
And listen, you guys are free to defend that all you want, but I'm telling you from personal conversations I've had with absolutely unimpeachable sources that that is 100% not the hill to die on.
I can't say any more without, but that you're wrong.
You're absolutely wrong on that.
I would love somehow to see proof of that.
But I think that the war we should be waging, the real front in this case, is that Russia Gate, so-called, was wholly launched and sustained by the phony Christopher Steele dossier funded by the Democrats.
That's the war we should be fighting.
We agree.
But ever should have existed.
We agree, but Carraldo, there's conflicts there too.
I mean, think about this, right?
And, Sean, this is another thing.
I love breaking these connections on your show here.
This is why you'll never get Hillary will never get locked up.
The Mueller investigation into Trump is a smokescreen to cover up for Hillary.
One of his lead prosecutors on the special counsel, Sean, a guy by the name of Aaron Zebley, he's on there, folks.
You can look it up yourself.
Aaron Zebley was the lawyer who represented Justin Cooper.
If that name's starting to ring a bell, it should.
He's the Clinton staffer who admitted in testimony to smashing the BlackBerries you referred to when you were opening.
So let me get this straight.
A guy investigating Trump on the special counsel Mueller team is the lawyer who represented the Clinton guy who smashed the BlackBerries.
And we're supposed to believe that this Mueller thing is all on the up and up.
It's nothing.
It's a smokescreen.
Geraldo and I agree on that, that this thing's a farce, but it's a farce for a reason.
The reason is to cover up all of the misdeeds in the Hillary and Obama years.
There's no other plausible explanation.
The one thing I have to go and correct the historic record: when I was speaking with Sean, when they first announced the appointment of Robert Mueller as the special counsel, I said, Great.
At last the air will be cleared.
At last we will reveal that there is no Russia gate collusion, that the whole premise that the Trump campaign and later the president-elect was colluding with the Rush.
Now we can reveal that that is false.
Sean was right.
The trip that we took with the special counsel once he was appointed and hyper-partisanship became apparent.
It's been a torture that has sabotaged, attempted to sabotage the first year and a half of the Trump administration.
And I lament that I approved the appointment of the special counsel.
I was wrong.
I will stand against any special counsel being appointed almost under any circumstances heretofore.
All right, got to take a break.
800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number, if you want to be a part of this program.
Good friend John Voigt is with us, actor, winner of an Academy Award, and good friend of the program, great American, a great patriot, loves our troops, and just has been doing amazing.
Ray Donovan, how big a series did that become for you?
Wow.
Yeah, well, I'm very fortunate to have, you know, this kind of work at the age that I am, Sean.
Well, you're now 38.
I know you're getting Hollywood.
38 is old.
I'm telling you, I'm an elderly gentleman.
Every time they say something in the script about my age or, you know, my frailty or whatever it is, I always, you know, I'm reminded of how old I am.
But anyway, I'm, you know, happy to be working.
I love my work and I'm working with very good people and we're having some success, so that's good.
Let's talk a little bit.
I know you love politics, and when we get to talk on occasion as friends, and I'm honored to call you a friend, and I know how much you love this country, and you've been watching with great concern everything that's going on, and I just want to get your observations to the extent you want to talk about them.
You know, I know all my anybody I know in Hollywood is scared to death to ever talk politics, but I know that for you, your country is always coming first.
Yes, and you know, the thing about Hollywood, if you asked me about Hollywood, why have they been so infected with this propaganda from the left?
And I would say that there's a reason, and the reason that I would see is that there's a guilt factor because these people, many of them very young, make so much money for a God-given gift, they don't have to work too hard to earn it, and so it helps them to talk against the rich.
And so they become prime soil for some of these attacks on capitalism and our country.
But anyway, yes, we're witnessing today, Sean, and we've talked about this a little bit just in our last conversation, about the destruction of the people of the left who are conjuring up lies to bring down our president of the United States.
And let me say that no amount of lies will destroy President Trump.
He's done what he's promised.
He's not let the American people down.
The ones who are trying to destroy the truths are polluted with evil destruction because they can't win this battle that they've so wished for.
There's an American oath, one nation under God with liberty and justice for all.
And that oath has been honored with our president.
God bless America.
It is amazing that the United States has a trust that has been given to us long ago, and that will always be our fundamental existence, you know.
And Donald Trump is for our nation's relationship to God and the safety of our fellow man.
And he's doing an extraordinary job in my eyes.
Why do you think they want to take him down so badly?
Oh, well, I mean, I think it's the same thing that's going on with Bibby Netanyahu.
You know, he's kept his country safe for all these years.
He's an eloquent, courageous man who has been a hero in his country in the military and has been tried and true, and they're now trying to take him down in the same way.
And here's what he has said: he said, Untruths have to be corrected, taken up by an army of soldiers for truth.
And I hope that the people who are listening will become soldiers in the most crucial battle of all, the battle for truth.
This is what he said.
And I say, you know, these soldiers for truth, I happen to know, be blessed to know this army of soldiers.
And you're a general in that army.
And your little statement at the end of shows when you say, let not your hearts be troubled, is a wonderful healing message that lifts our spirits.
As casually and as often as you say it, it always is a helpful thing to people because we have to know we're going to overcome this terrible onslaught that is against our country and our principles.
And, you know, sometimes I'm not going to lie, my heart is troubled.
You know, I actually have the whole verse in my studio here.
It says, let not your heart be troubled.
It says, believe in God, believe also in me.
In my father's house are many mansions.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself, that where I am, there ye may be also.
That's the whole verse.
That's so beautiful, huh?
Yeah, it really is.
And it does give you hope because sometimes you think the world's going too crazy.
That's exactly right.
But, you know, we have an army of soldiers.
We have, and I, you know, you and I know these guys like Victor Davis Hansen, John Bolton.
I've listed a few of them.
Mark Levin, who knows more about the Constitution than anyone since the founders.
Laura Ingram, Judge Janine, Pete Hegsgeth, and all the good people at Fox, Marcus Luttrell, Rudy Julian, Nikki Hanny, Mike Pants, Michelle Bachman, David Horowitz, Bill Bennett, Jamie Glazov, Hugh Hewitt, Ted Cruz, Dennis Prague.
I just went on and on.
But these guys are eloquent.
They're prepared for this almost as if they were sent by God, these guys.
And they're fighting every day along with you.
But you're really at the head of the class, Kip.
Well, listen, I'm not the head of anything.
You know, I often say this.
People say.
You have to duck when you get a compliment.
I know.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have attempted that.
You know what I mean?
No, no, no.
But, you know, when you really think about it, I mean, there's so many great patriots out there that, you know, I look at it as we're all spokes in a wheel, and you need the spokes to go around.
I mean, when someone of the stature and fame that you have, you know, is willing to step out and say, hey, wait a minute, I really believe in America and our country and our Constitution, and I don't like what I see the way that I see the president is being treated every day and this witch hunt that's been going on.
It has a lot of power.
I mean, so if we all do our job and we all play that role of being a spoke, then, you know, it makes the whole wheel go round.
And at the center, I guess, right now is the president.
And he's the one that has the power and the authority and obviously the desire to get a lot of good things done.
I think but for my show and a few others, I don't think anyone would know any of the success that he's had, which has been tremendous.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
And I don't know anybody who parries all these constant lies better than you, Sean, which is so important.
But and I think The destruction of the ignorant is creating hostile, you know, hostile behavior in our homes, our workplaces, on the streets of the United States.
But the ones who know that the truth prevails are the ones who are able to stand by our president with much promise and love for our nation as one.
And we've got to find a way to eliminate this destructive behavior once and for all and start believing in God's word and knowing that Donald Trump has sworn in his name for the protection of the country.
Well, I agree.
Listen to me.
God bless America.
I don't know why anybody would want to be president anymore.
I don't think any good people are ever going to want to run, seeing the atmosphere as it is now.
I mean.
Well, it's look at what happened under Lincoln.
I mean, you would have said the same thing under Lincoln.
But in the light, in the light of history, you know, we see that that greatness stands at the top of the mountain.
So the challenges that he had, you know, and the challenges Donald Trump is having right now are carving a portrait that is quite extraordinary.
And when Lincoln came to office, he said, I don't think there's any more heroism left after George Washington.
And look what happened to him.
But anyway, that's the way things seem to go.
We have to, I think this is going to carve us as a nation, give us character as a nation, all of us who are fighting.
And I'm sure we are going to prevail.
I'm certain of it.
So I take part in those words.
I'm so glad you read the whole quote of Jesus' whole quote.
You know, it is, you know, it's so funny.
I mean, I was thinking about Barbara Bush who passed away this week.
And she'd been there for eight years as the wife of the vice president, four as the wife of the president, eight years her son is president.
And I'm thinking, and so I knew her, and she had so much grace about her.
She had such a gravitas about her, such a good sense of humor about her.
She was tough.
Trust me.
I remember once I was doing an interview, I don't remember, it was either with her husband or her son.
Now, you be nice.
And I was like, yes, ma'am, like, whatever you want.
I'll be nice.
And, you know, at the end of...
It did great.
You know, it is nice to have that hope that at the end of all of this, that, you know, there is, you know, if you look at the majesty of the world, it's so beyond human comprehension.
And to think that there's something even greater than that out there is a very warm source of comfort, if that makes sense.
Yeah, well, our connection to this, to the truths that have been left for us as guidance is very important.
And the attacks on those truths, you know, take God down as Marx did, you know, and have people running their own lives without a compass.
You see the trouble we've been into, of course.
Well, I'm going to have to run because we're just out of time, but I will tell you, you are a great friend, a great patriot.
I think the world of you.
You've offered me personal support when I've needed it.
And I just want everybody to know what a great man John Voigt is, sir.
We love you.
Thank you.
You inspire us all, and you're a very courageous American.
Thank you, sir.
God bless, Sean.
Thank you.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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