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Well, if Russia, Russia, Russia doesn't work, we can always switch to Stormy, stormy, stormy, and more stormy.
All right, 800-941 Sean Toprey telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
One follow-up, we'll get into this in more detail later in the uh program today.
But the president hinted, and I was trying to hint because I knew this was coming, is hinting that the $716 billion that he has gotten to rebuild our military, and saying that our military is again rich because we knew do need to fill this gap of vulnerability once again because we haven't kept up with military spending and technology.
Anyway, he wrote a posting the president about the increase of military spending.
Building a great border wall with drugs, poison, and enemy combatants pouring into our country is all about national defense.
We'll build the wall through the military.
Uh-huh.
Well, I thought Nancy and Chuck were all upset that the president was gonna not didn't get his only got 1.6 billion for the wall.
He said, I want to address the situation on border security, which I call national defense, and he says I call it stopping drugs from pouring across the border.
I call it illegal immigration.
It's all those things, he said.
But national defense is a very important two words, and because having a strong border system, including a wall, we are in a position militarily that is very advantageous.
Now, Chuck Schumer argued Sunday that the budget that Trump signed last week doesn't include money for the wall, but he is the commander in chief, Chuck, not you.
I remember the pre he said make Mexico pay for it.
Too bad, Chucky.
Trump's 1,000% correct.
There's nothing more central to America's defense than protecting our borders.
And as commander-in-chief, he'd be derelict if he didn't protect the borders.
And uh so anyway, I doubt there's gonna be that many legal challenges that can work, although I have no doubt they'll shop this through the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Uh so we'll get to that today.
Also, nobody's taken note that that Rocket Man is not, apparently, according to satellite imaging, Rocket Man's not doing a thing.
And it looks like Rocket Little Rocket Man is in fact stepped down.
And there are reports out today of satellite photos indicating North Korea has now halted their nuclear weapons program.
Well, I guess peace through strength definitely does work.
Um let me first address um something that needs to be addressed here as it relates to the Stormy Daniels and the stormy coverage and stormy, stormy, stormy.
You notice, first of all, the media doesn't talk about Russia a whole lot anymore.
They really don't.
I mean, I'm looking at the head.
They actually are doing image side-by-size of Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels.
What is the one thing put aside if you believe them, don't believe them or not.
What what is the one thing they're both claiming?
A consensual relationship of what, some twelve, thirteen years ago.
That's the one thing that they are claiming.
They're not claiming that there was anything That happened that was untoward or non-consensual.
Now, why is that an important point?
Because there's a massive double standard here.
I've been saying journalism is dead.
It is.
And now we've got this endless cycle of fake news and and pretty much liberal propaganda.
And uh, by the way, Kim Spring, but the brutal dictator has left North Korea for the first time in a visit to Beijing.
Well, that's just breaking.
Bloomberg now reporting that confirming that Kim Jong-un has now gone to the Chinese Capitol.
That's interesting.
The unannounced journey comes as the U.S. is preparing for their first face-to-face meeting.
What?
What?
I didn't hear what you said.
Oh, it's up on Hannity.com.
Okay.
Yeah, he travels to Beijing.
This is pretty interesting.
All right, we'll get back to that in a little bit.
So I uh and this is so you start with I I'm watching the breathless hysteria that that some are calling news coverage on fake news CNN.
It is literally become in the lead up to and now post 60 minutes interview.
It's like the soft porn network.
You know, starting last week with Anderson's interview, exclusive interview with Karen McDougall.
We had a consensual relationship.
Okay.
Is we is that is that big breaking news?
Is that anyway?
Let's take a trip down memory lane and let's go to Paula Jones and how the media attacked Paula Jones back in the day.
Let's listen.
Yes, yes, the case was being fomented by right-wing uh and yes, she's not a very credible witness, and it's really not a law case at all.
I think she's a dubious witness.
I really do.
We've got an awful lot to talk about this week, including the uh sexual harassment suit against the president.
Of course, and that one stops the video who's really being harassed.
Is she not trying to capitalize on this in effect to to to profit from impugning the president?
I have to profess complete confusion over this entire case, why this is even a case.
Oh.
Now, if you're listening to that coverage, what you heard there was let's see, the Newsweek Washington Bureau Chief Evan Thomas.
He actually went as far as some sleazy women with big hair coming out of trailer parks.
I think she's a dubious witness.
I really do.
Or Brian Gumble.
We've got an awful lot to talk about this week, including the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit against the president.
Of course, in that one, it's a little tough to figure out who's really being harassed.
Now look, listen to these comments through the prism of now we live in the me two era.
Because Paula Jones was saying, and by the way, she could identify distinguishing characteristics if you recall, that became an issue.
Talking about the then attorney general of Arkansas exposing himself to her and dropping his pants.
And then we've got, you know, good morning, America.
Charlie, what's his name?
Gibson saying at the time to Sam Donald, why does anyone care what this woman, Paula Jones has to say?
Bottom line, Sam, is she not trying to capitalize on this in an effort to profit from impugning the president?
Is it again?
This is an assault.
We're not talking about a consensual relationship.
You you all can decide on your own whether the women are credible or not.
That's not my that not even touching that point.
It's not even it's not even relevant when you really think about it.
But you know, it's the same network, fake news CNN.
They dropped in a single day.
A hundred and ninety-five times the shh hold network, and they kept saying it.
And they said it again and again and again.
Is there a difference if the president said uh polar house?
Do you think these countries are holes?
Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office into a pollers built this country 110 years ago.
In addition to the president's comments yesterday, uh a few more.
Whole whole country.
Rich, do you have any example of any whole country that the president referred to that is predominantly Caucasian?
Polish holes polar sh.
I work for I'm proud to be a holder.
Everyone a million years thought I would be saying on television.
Oh, they shh whole network.
It goes on and on and on.
Now it's you know, remember, all right.
Everybody probably has in their minds, Stormy Daniels last night saying, If I am not part of the me to movement.
This was a consensual relationship.
All right, let's listen to what what was it that Paula Jones was saying about Bill Clinton.
We did some small talk, and then he started um kind of getting a little comfortable and trying to um he said that he loved the way my hair flowed down my back of my clothes, and he liked my curves, and he leaned up and he pulled me up towards him, and he was gonna try to kiss on me.
And so then I tried to distract him again and was trying to, and I thought, what am I doing?
My mind is racing.
I said, Well, I may need to be going or something.
And they say, you know, he pulled down his, he said down, pulled, pulled down his pants, his whole everything, and he was exposed, and I said, I'm not that kind of girl, and I need to be getting back to my to my desk.
Uh I'm like the latest thing is, whoa.
Okay, he exposed himself.
Kathleen Willie talks about an experience of being assaulted inside the Oval Office.
By the way, these are all interviews I have done with these women.
Listen to Kathleen Willie talked about being groped and grabbed and bonded and kissed against her will.
No woman should be subjected to it.
It was an assault.
He assaulted you.
Yes.
He and you he touched, grabbed, fondled, and kissed you against against your will.
Yes.
And it's an allegation that is not made by one woman, it's made by multiple.
Many of us.
All right.
And then one of the hardest interviews I did at the time after Lisa Myers, I did an interview with Juanita Broderick.
Juanita Broderick is coming by this show today.
And she's going to be on Hannity tonight.
Now, Stormy says it's consensual.
Kara McDougall says it's consensual.
Where was the media coverage, the CNN coverage of all of this?
He described a scene where he was biting on your lip, and then when it was all over, he was leaving.
Said, you better put some ice on that.
Yeah.
And casually put on his sunglasses and walked out the door.
And I've told my friend who came back and found me.
That I was sitting there crying and so upset at the time.
And I felt like somebody that the next person would be somebody coming through the door to get rid of the body.
That's just about how I had absolutely couldn't believe what had happened to me.
You begged him to stop.
Yes.
Where was the widespread coverage of these issues?
So Juanita Broderick tweets out to Anderson Cooper and goes, How about having me on to discuss my book?
You better put some ice on that.
What Bill Clinton said to me after he raped me.
That was on Twitter last night.
Now, where am I going with this?
I am making a point.
Media in this country is dead.
They don't care about the truth.
They don't care about the facts.
This is all about everything that I've been describing.
All of these forces against the president.
You've got the media against the president, Democrats against the president.
Look at everything that happened, and all the Hillary gets a pass.
Hillary, you know, a Pfizer warrant, unverified, lies get used to get Pfizer warrants to spy on people.
All of this stuff is not important to the media that is so corrupt.
You know, the Media Research Center did some amazing work on all of this.
You know, this this these issues were never covered the same way.
And the charges are far more severe.
We're not talking about apples and apples here.
You know, everybody's got their own set of standards, morality, what matters, what you're looking for from a president.
You know, but what do you...
What is Anderson Cooper now consider to be journalism here?
And why the double standard in this particular case when it comes to Bill Clinton's accusers and how the mainstream media had ignored these horrific charges.
Now it doesn't end with Bill Clinton's presidency because the questions were still relevant in the 2016 election.
And for the most part, they tried to stay away as much as they could.
Just beyond disgraceful.
and they claim they're news, they're not news.
Journalism is that we do more journalism in a week than these people do in a year.
Thank you.
Oh, did you hear what Hannity said?
He says, okay, we were first on the Pfizer abuse at Trump Tower and the wiring, wiretapping, as Trump said and was excoriated for.
Who's been exposing the deep state issues?
Who's been talking about Russian real interference?
A Russian bought and paid for dossier, struck and comey, McCabe, and uh and page and and Loretta Lynch and how they put the fix-in on Hillary's investigation.
You know, we're the ones putting on the uranium one informant every night, and he's gonna join me in studio on Wednesday night.
And none of these issues are touched by your media because they're corrupt at the core, and they break nothing.
Their big break, their big breaking news is stormy.
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Alright, as we uh roll along, 800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Um, you know, if this is now gonna be what news is, I I don't know what to tell you anymore.
You know, but the the media defended Bill Clinton all throughout 2016 and 27.
We've got the audio, let's play it.
Because they the rape accusation is decades old and discredited.
Only in the uh sort of the mind of some sort of movie writer of a third world uh democracy or dictatorship, would you have a candidate per publicly humiliate a former occupant of that office by parading all of uh all of these other people around as well?
It's Hillary Clinton who is the candidate here, not Bill Clinton.
She was not implicated in any misconduct, she was not someone who uh was accused even of doing anything untoward with regard to these women.
He more than paid the price for what uh what he did.
The mere fact that he went through an impeachment process as president uh means that uh there will always be a shadow on the legacy of his presidency.
So at least from my point of view, I think he's more than paid the price.
He didn't get away with anything.
Okay, he was investigated, he was litigated, he was impeached.
He finally, after lying about the affair, admitted it, apologized multiple times in a very heartfelt way.
That's one of the many allegations against the Paula Jones.
There's Jennifer Flowers, there's one in your broader, there's Kathleen Willie, there's a bunch.
Where was the type of attention, though, that we're getting for Stormy and Karen McDougall?
I mean, it is where are you laughing?
Uh whose idea was that to come up with the storm class.
That's my idea, and it makes me laugh every time it's a good thing.
Oh, I'm glad you're entertaining yourself on my show.
I don't know why he gets the kick out of it.
I do.
But this is the point.
They never covered these stories.
It never became the issue.
Except when then candidate Trump invited after the Access Hollywood tape.
Remember that Sunday debate after, invited Paula Jones and Kathleen Woolley and Juanita Broderick to go to the debate.
Anyway, we will be interviewing Juanita uh and uh Paula tonight on Hannity.
When Ada's gonna join us in studio as well.
Uh, what are the differences?
And do you really care?
In other words, do you see what's going on here?
Do you trust your media?
Do you think you can trust them?
Do you think they have an agenda?
Does this not prove the agenda that I've been telling you for years they have, and how so-called journalism in America's dead will continue?
All right, 800 941 Sean, glad you're with us, 25 now till the top of the hour.
I I cannot even describe.
I'm looking at an article in the Daily Beast, and uh the headline is How close is Trump to a psychiatric breakdown?
With reports that a giddy commander-in-chief running around the White House like a kid freed of any adult supervision, having dispatched every moderate who hasn't resigned in the hopes of saving a shred of his integrity.
Donald Trump now appears to be in a state of mania as he escalates his effort to bolster his fragile ego before he goes into the cage with special counsel Robert Muller or fires him.
There's so much there that's just so untrue that I don't even know where to begin.
Then I then I go a step further.
This was exactly what the contributors to the book, the dangerous case of Donald Trump warned about six months ago.
The psych psychiatric professionals who contributed to the book have monitored and come to know Trump's character better than most clients.
Oh, you don't actually have to meet a client, talk to a client, talk to an individual because Donald Trump is unconventional.
Let's just imply and say straight up that he's he's mentally unhinged.
Well, that'll invoke the 25th amendment.
If Russia, Russia, Russia doesn't work, and Stormy, Stormy, Stormy fails, then I guess we can just go to the, oh, we've got to invoke the 25th Amendment of the Constitution.
Lawmakers with experience as prosecutors or foreign affairs experts are sounding red alerts about how far out of control is this tormented tweeter.
You know, it's sort of like, you know, every time I would go on a little tweet storm when I had time, and I don't have the time nor inclination because it's just it became boring to me more than anything else.
But anyway, it was always like the media would write up, Hannity goes on tweet storm.
I was never on a tweet storm.
I was laughing my ass off and entertaining the hell out of myself by tweeting out and having fun and just mocking people that I knew would bubble and fizz like Alka seltzer in water because their precious egos couldn't handle, you know, a good verbal battle.
And it was always fun because especially people in the media, they cannot even, they can't take the fact that uh they're not looked at and worshipped the way they think they ought to be worshipped.
Anyways, so it goes through a whole list of all of Trump's psychological.
He's paranoia, exaggerated by the real and imminent threat for prosecution, intimidation of women.
He has bought for sexual pleasure, is reaching a breaking point.
Oh, who said that?
Democratic Representative Richard Blumenthal, one of the biggest opponents of the president.
And then they go to Chris Coons of uh Maryland next.
Um it's an on-rushing train heading at heading at us, he's warning.
Even I'm more ominous in coded words of the former CIA director, John Brennan.
Okay, yeah, let's go to the guy that voted for a communist for president that somehow worked his way into the CIA and under Obama became the director.
Perhaps the Russians have something on Trump.
Mr. Trump knows better than any one of us why the Russians might have something.
Okay, look at what Donald Trump did to the Russians today.
Oh, he put all the sanctions on the Russians again.
Something that Barack Obama never did.
You just can't underestimate the amount of hate that we're talking about here.
It is it's just beyond the pale.
And I think there is a collective, and I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist, and I don't play one on TV, but there is a real unhinged media out there.
Those very people that mocked and laughed at the idea that Donald Trump could ever be a candidate and said, Ron Donald, run ha ha ha ha.
You'll never win.
You know, leading up to uh Donald Trump dispensing of 16 primary candidates.
They never thought Hillary could win.
The same people that are ignoring the biggest story in their lifetime, and I hate to break it to them.
Stormy Daniels going on 60 minutes is not the biggest story of our lifetime.
It's just not.
And I know some people think it is, but it's not even close.
But we do have The biggest abuse of power scandal in American history.
There was a reason why Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, actually was fired.
You know, there we did learn certain things from the Strck and Page emails.
We did learn that James Comey and Peter Strzok put the fix in with Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page and on the periphery, you have Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac.
That happened.
We do have a Russian dossier that was paid for with Russian lies to manipulate the American people.
That was paid for by Hillary.
It took us a year, but we finally found it.
We did, in fact, we were the first to report that there was a FISA warrant issued for the Trump campaign, Carter Page, Trump associate, but that got them into the emails of everybody, pretty much.
You know, we did learn that a FISA judge and FISA applications on four separate occasions.
They never told the judge that Hillary paid for the information, which brought up the bulk of information, which was the bulk of the information in the applications and the renewals, or that Rod Rosenstein, you know, was part of at least the at least the reauthorization of one, if not two of those of those Pfizer warrants.
And then he appointed Robert Mueller.
There's so much when we, of course, we're digging deep into the team that Robert Mueller put in, this is all stuff ignored by the mainstream media.
You know, it's um, and then you watch, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia didn't work, and the hope right now is that stormy, stormy, stormy is gonna work.
But how do you ignore an allegation of rape all up to and including through the 2016 election?
When Juanita Broderick makes that statement, or Paula Jones' story about being ushered into a hotel room where Bill Clinton propositions her and exposes himself, which by the way sounds eerily like Harvey Weinstein and his MO was one article I read today pointed out.
The Weekly Standard actually pointed this out.
Or that the groping, grabbing, fondling, and touching of Kathleen Willie.
And while Monica Lewinsky might have been consensual, that's fine.
No one's saying that was not what Ken Starr was delving into.
It was about perjury, subrantion of perjury, and obstruction of justice in that case.
And the person that had filed the lawsuit was Paula Jones, who said she could talk about distinguishing characteristics, etc.
Which I guess the attorney now for Stormy Daniels is suggesting in one interview I saw.
But anyways, and you know, in this day and age of me too, I would think that in 2016 that women would have been concerned about what Paula alleged and what Kathleen alleged and what Juanita Broderick alleged,
and they would have been somewhat concerned about a president with power, you know, having this relationship with a young girl, I don't know, she's 20 years old at the time, 19, 20, 21, the cigar issues and everything else in between, and that's sorted affair.
Or, you know, we I was to think I was the only one that brought up the hypocrisy of Hillary and women.
She wasn't asked about these issues.
I still to this day cannot understand how the Clinton Foundation takes money from countries that abuse women.
Literally abuses them.
Women in Saudi Arabia can't drive still.
Oh, they're going to be able to drive.
Well, okay, we're making improvements.
Or cover themselves.
They have to cover themselves.
They're told how to dress, they're told if they can travel or not travel, work or not work, can't drive a car, can't be seen in public without a male relative.
That's a lot of these countries.
Marital rape in a lot of these countries that gave money to the Clinton Foundation.
Marital rape is not a crime in a lot of those countries.
And so on and so forth.
Then of course, gays and lesbians are killed as a matter of course.
Christians and Jews are persecuted.
Nobody cared about that in the campaign.
Or that when you, you know, you go back and you listen to the things that were said about Paula Kathleen and Juanita at the time.
I mean, you know, it was you drag a dollar bill through a trailer park, and you know, somebody with big hair.
Remember this Nina Burley said, I think American women should be lining up with their presidential knee pads on to Show their gratitude for keeping the theocracy off of our backs.
Okay.
Now she's living through the Trump years.
And uh literally said Melania.
She had a recent newsweek column, headline Melania Ivanka Ivana Trump wear high heels, a symbol of everything that is beautiful and horrifying about them.
This coming from the same woman that wrote about every woman putting on their presidential knee pads.
It's so bizarre.
So if anybody's unhinged here, it's the left in America.
All right, I may surprise some of you as uh we dovetail here.
So anyway, I've watched a little bit of the protesting that went on.
Did you see the protesting with these kids this weekend?
And I had a big crowd.
I I don't get into what's oh, our crowd's bigger than your crowd.
My crowd was bigger than your crowd.
And it doesn't mean anything to me personally.
Anyway, so I'm watching, and I know that a lot of concern.
I didn't like the how it was politicized.
I didn't like the groups that seem to be involved backing these students.
You know, I get I get a kick out of these Hollywood hypocrites that I'm sure had you know detectives armed next to them the whole time.
They they couldn't possibly go out in public without some type of protection.
And I think our kids the only thing I would like to say, you know, it basically became a get out the liberal vote rally is this March for our lives in DC.
The only thing I would say to these kids is I I would first thing I'd say is I want to make sure we never have another kid in America ever being shot at.
Ever.
I would I'd like to make it that you get the same protection the politicians get.
At least we owe you that.
I want I would say you deserve the same protection that actors and actresses get on the red carpet during the Academy Awards.
And I'd say, listen, here's how I want to keep you safe.
I want to make sure every school in America has a threat security assessment.
I want to make sure that the perimeter is surrounded and that there's there's controlled points of entry at every school.
I'd like to see backpacks checked and metal detectors used, and I'd like to see every kid go, you know, through an ID system so that nobody uh anybody that doesn't belong in that school can't get into that school.
And then I'd like to see two concealed carry, retired military or policemen on every floor of every school.
And the way we're gonna pay for it is anybody that contributes 15, 20 hours a week, retired military, retired police to any school or any schools, they would get tax-free benefits, federal and state and local taxes.
This way won't cost us anything.
And this the threat assessment will be part of that deal.
We could do it for free.
Now, you can ban the AR-15 or certain common sense gun control efforts.
Okay, then I can guarantee you that if you banned everyone and confiscated everyone, that they're only gonna use another weapon, and then we're gonna be back at the same argument, but we're gonna have more dead kids in the interim.
And I don't want kids dying in school.
I don't want kids feeling unsafe at school.
And if we can protect actors and actresses and we can protect everybody else, you know, our politicians, then we ought to be able to protect our kids.
And that would be my argument.
But the fact that these kids are marching and that they're engaged and they're passionate, I'm all for it.
I have no problem with it.
They don't have to agree with me.
I'm glad they're getting involved.
Now let's have a real debate.
Now let's have a real discussion on how to keep them safe.
All right, let's get to our uh busy telephones.
Uh, Christy is in Kansas.
Christy, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hello.
Hello, how are you, Christy?
I'm good, and you.
I'm good.
What's happening?
Oh, not much.
Just driving.
So I thought I'd call in and give my opinions on the whole Stormy Daniels and the Anita Broderick and all that.
Did you watch that?
Did you watch the interview last night?
No, I wasn't even gonna put my sensor on that.
I I think it's completely what they're doing is just to make it they're they're hurting uh Melania, and it's that.
Um it was a consensual if it happened, and I'm not saying it did or it didn't.
Um it was conventional.
How about what a sleeve ball Bill Clinton was in his years, and how um Hillary just demonized all those girls.
It was just crazy.
And I was actually a teenager when Bill Clinton and just going into college when Bill Clinton was uh going through all that, and I never voted for him.
I would never vote for Hillary.
Um it's just it's crazy.
And Hillary's saying that white women who are married or in Central America.
Let me tell you, Hillary, I'm in Central America.
I live in Kansas.
No man ever tells me how to vote.
And I voted for Donald Trump.
Could you imagine could you imagine if your husband or your boss or your son told you how to vote?
Uh, how would you react?
I don't know how I'd react at the thought that something that ever happened.
It never happens.
I tell them exactly where they could go, and they never would, because they know how I react.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, listen, Christy, God bless you.
What are you driving, by the way?
What's your car these days?
A GNC what?
Terrain?
Oh, yeah, it's great, great car.
Do you like it?
Yeah, I love it.
It's actually my work vehicle, so.
Well, good for you.
Well, just do my do me a favor, make sure you uh are doing hands-free phone calling while you're on the road.
I don't want you to get a ticket.
Although if the somebody pulls you over, I'll try and talk to the cop and give him I'll put in a good word for you.
But just drive safe.
We'd like to thank you for this public service message.
Sean.
Well, I mean, I honestly, now that I'm older, I drive more safe than I ever did in my whole life.
It's crazy.
Uh-huh.
Yes, yes, the case was is being fomented by right-wing nuts.
And yes, she's not a very credible witness, and it's really not a law case at all.
I think she's a dubious witness.
I really do.
We've got an awful lot to talk about this week, including the uh sexual harassment suit against the president.
Of course, and that one's stuffed in New York who's really being harassed.
Is she not trying to capitalize on this i i in effect to to to profit from impugning the president?
I have to profess complete confusion over this entire case.
Why this is even a case.
The rape accusation is decades old and discredited.
Only in the uh sort of the mind of some sort of movie writer of a third world uh democracy or dictatorship, would you have a candidate per publicly humiliate a former occupant of that office by parading all of uh all of these other people around as well.
It's Hillary Clinton who is the candidate here, not Bill Clinton.
She was not implicated in any misconduct, she was not someone who uh was accused even of doing anything untoward with regard to these women.
He more than paid the price for what uh what he did.
The mere fact that he went through an impeachment process as president, uh, means that uh there will always be a shadow on the legacy of his presidency.
So at least from my point of view, I think he's more than paid the price.
He didn't get away with anything.
Okay, he was investigated.
He was litigated, he was impeached.
He finally, after lying about the affair, admitted it, apologized multiple times in a very heartfelt way.
That's one of the many allegations against.
Paula Jones, there's Jennifer Flowers, there's one in your broader, there's Kathleen Willie, there's a bunch.
All of which were investigated, litigated, adjudicated.
Oh, we No, they weren't investigated, litigated, and adjudicated at all.
And that's the whole big story here.
Is that if you watched Stormy Daniels last night or Karen McDougall last week, uh, what did you see?
So, okay, two women say that they had a consensual relationship and were adamant that it was a consensual relationship.
Very different than the behavior of Bill Clinton.
Very different from a guy that exposed himself uh in the case of Paula Jones or groped and grabbed and fondled and touched and kissed against Kathleen Willie's w uh will.
Or the rape allegation that Juanita Broderick made, uh they're saying, Oh, it's just dismissed, uh, that's been debunked, uh, that's not relevant.
And all of this went, you know, this isn't like old news.
This includes up to the media defending all of this through November 2016.
And uh one woman you may not remember is Leslie Milwe, and she talked about two of the occasions where Clinton groped her while he rubbed himself up against her and then it got worse from there.
Anyway, so uh with all this talk about stormy, stormy stormy replacing Russia, Russia, Russia, you know, why is there this massive double standard in the news media?
And how do you trust the news media?
I don't think you can.
Anyway, joining us now is Juanita Broderick.
She's in New York.
She's in studio today.
Uh she wrote a book that's called You Better Put Some Ice on That How I Survived Being Raped by Bill Clinton.
And also Leslie Milway is with us and she has the occasion she's gonna describe uh describe in just a minute.
Uh Juanita good to see you.
Um you were one of the you even wrote about this in the book uh because I read your book and I I would think everybody should read the book because it's powerful and it's cool you better put some ice on that and one of the hardest interviews I have ever done in my entire life and career 30 years on radio, 23 years at Fox is when I first interviewed you and I just I was stunned and shocked and saddened and I I knew the pain that you had gone through was real.
Oh I know Sean whenever you c yeah whenever you came to my home you were only the second person to interview me after Lisa Myers did with the NBC date line and you were so gracious and we were going along in the interview and all of a sudden when I started to describe the horror that I had gone through at the hands of Bill Clinton I look over at you and there's these big tears in your eyes and it just really caught me off guard.
I knew right then that uh you you not only believe me you felt you know you you felt hard I I I don't know how you could not feel you know I remember what Lisa Myers called you and said uh we're not airing your interview right now uh the good news is you're credible the bad news is you're too credible I know and MBC spiked the story until they were pressured by Brit Hume and others to to do it.
Right.
I I was just and I did not know what to do with that.
You know I'd never been interviewed before.
I absolutely at the beginning did not understand what she meant by too credible until someone in her group called me and said well you know that Bill Clinton and Andy Lack are good friends.
They golf together and she said the main negativity of this has come from Mr. Lack.
Even Tim Russard wanted to to uh have it aired long before it was Tim was a a guy that had a lot of credibility.
Yes.
Um let me let me ask you this did did CNN ever interview you except for I saw I went back and I looked my my notes showed me my investigation showed me the first time you were interviewed was by Jake Tapper in October of twenty sixteen were you interviewed by CNN prior to that at all?
Oh no no and that was a surprise to me that that they called and Jake wanted to interview me and uh you know even though Jake has always believed me the purpose of that interview was about the women who had made allegations against Mr Trump.
It wasn't about me at all.
Yeah.
Let me bring in Leslie Milwey, who is with us.
Leslie, how are you?
Welcome to the program.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
Now, I want to ask you, did you watch any of the Stormy or Karen McDougal interviews?
I did, just so I could see how everything was going to be portrayed, which I knew it would be put on the same scale or as examined as a similar thing as Bill Clinton.
And that's the amazing thing.
You know, when Nita was was raped I was sexually assaulted three times the women that have come forward we have you know we've told about horrible sexual assault and harassment and this is not even on the same level in any way shape or form these i if this is true consensual sex took place I don't care I'm not the moral police.
I'm I'm sorry that you did that but you know what don't ever compare the horrible trauma that I went through as a 20 year old in Arkansas with being trapped in a room and being sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton on three occasions to the point that I had to quit my job.
You were you were a reporter in Little Rock Arkansas correct?
Correct.
I was in Fort Smith Fayetteville And uh he would visit our station and he literally uh the more I you know declined his advances, the more he was on a mission and what he did to me was terrible.
Um, you know, it was just short of rape.
It was it was a horrible experience and it changed the course of my life.
I have a wonderful life, don't get me wrong.
He doesn't define who I am.
But I think to try to put on any sort of level my experience, Juanita, Paula, Kathleen, anyone's experience on the same level, it's an insult to women.
It's an insult to intelligence.
But we're not we're talking about a serial uh a personality, uh uh a sick serial assaulter here.
I mean, what uh um I think people are more familiar with Juanita's story, and I'll get to her in a second about this, but what exactly did he do to you?
Um he followed me around for several months.
He had to spend a lot of time in Arkansas because of the Cuban refugee, the flotilla from Cuba.
He went to Fort Chaffee a lot.
It was my beat.
I spent a lot of time around him, which after a while it was very uncomfortable.
He followed me into a very small closet-like editing room uh one time, touched my breasts, came down, held me in place while he was doing that, and it progressed from there to the point that he was performing a sexual act against me.
And it I was 20.
I, you know, it was my first real job.
So your real job in television, and this is your desired career.
What was the sex act that you're talking about?
Um he literally came up uh behind me, he held me down, he he was behind me, he um grabbed my breasts, and he um pleasured himself against me from behind um uh humping me and to the point of ejaculation.
He did that to me twice.
And uh I had no, you know, I there was no one I could go to.
This is 1980.
You are, you know, you're this young girl, and Juanita and I have spoken about this.
It's such a difficult thing when you're you know, people don't understand the culture in not only in news then, but also just women in the workplace.
Who are you gonna go to to tell that the governor of Arkansas is sexually assaulting you?
Where do you go?
Well, the he's the top law enforcement person in in your state and the governor.
Um as horrible as what Leslie just described there, you describe a rape, but there's the the he's a serial predator though, Juanita, and and that's why you know the comments I'll never forget it it's like stuck in my brain since you told me that day he's done raping you, and you better go get some ice on that because he bit your lip.
When you compare that to the media coverage of Stormy and and consensual relationships, what is your reaction?
Oh, it's infuriating.
Absolutely infuriating.
I I absolutely can't believe it.
What I went through changed my life.
You know, it was I I went through a horrific uh experience and to try to get over that, you can't get over it.
You can't forget it.
It's in your it's in your mind and body all of the time.
Uh and when he had bitten my lip, my lip was swollen twice the size.
And when he started to leave the room, calmly puts on his sunglasses and just sort of challenging motions to my mouth and says, You better put some ice on that.
Uh who can be that cold?
And then Hillary is running for president.
All of these, she claims to be a champion of women.
Um even made the statement at the beginning of 2016 that oh, women have a right to be heard and believed.
Oh my god.
My first question is Juanita.
Oh, you know, and and down the list, right?
Right.
And that's when whenever she said that that you should come forward, you have the right to be heard, you have the right to be believed, we're with you.
That's when I went on Twitter, had to get my grandson to teach me how to do Twitter.
And that's when I made that tweet on January the sixth, 2016.
And it wasn't anything that I had said before.
I mean, it was it was the very same thing I'd always said for many decades, what had happened to me.
And then a week later, I mean, it went viral, and a week later, she re took you should be believed from her website.
Unbelievable.
Uh Leslie, when you compare the coverage of Stormy Daniels, were you ever invited on CNN?
I was not.
I um What about MSNBC?
Were you ever invited there?
Never.
I've never been approached by anyone uh from what I would call the mainstream media.
Um I did I've talked to New York Times reporters, and I had a similar situation uh with as you did, Juanita.
I had a New York Times reporter tell me, um, you know what?
Your story is so credible.
I mean, you have you remember details, and I said you don't understand when you're sexually assaulted like that, you remember everything.
It is part of your DNA now.
It is who you are.
And you may be able to shelf it, but it's always who you are.
All right, we're gonna have more on this tonight on Hannity.
We're gonna show you in uh all of its despicable uh coverage against the women against Bill Clinton and compare it to Stormy Daniels, and it should shock the conscience.
There's such phony hypocrites in the mainstream media.
All right, Sean Hannity Show 800 Nine Four One Sean, toll-free telephone number.
We'll get to your calls at the bottom of the hour, and Geraldo Rivera is gonna join us in studio at the top of the next hour.
Juanita Broderick is uh with us and Leslie Milwe is with us, uh both victims of uh the serial predator Bill Clinton.
And I go back to you know, Juanita, and Juanita, by the way, this book should be read by people.
If you if you if you got so into Stormy, which I guess had uh twenty-two million people viewing last night, and it was about a consensual relationship, and nobody paid attention to the fact that this woman told the story about rape.
How is it possible?
So CNN only interviewed you just before Hillary's election, never before.
No.
What about MSNBC?
Any No, never, no, never.
And what about the main the the except for Lisa Myers?
Is there any other person besides me and uh I guess Dorothy Rabinows?
Dorothy Rubinowitz.
And that's it.
That's it.
For all those years.
Yeah.
And that doesn't count like the gaggle you did when you went to the debate that that second debate.
Right, right.
And all they all wanted to know then they they wanted nothing in the spin room to do with me or what had happened to me.
All the questions were how can you support President I mean uh uh Mr. Trump.
That's it.
That was the Oh, yeah, yeah, they just spewed it to me.
Do you think America America has a fascination with gossip?
Should a consensual relationship from twelve years ago, what does that mean to you?
Oh, it means it means possibly infidelities.
But my situation is a crime.
So you're talking infidelities versus crimes, and there's no comparison.
And Leslie, you're talking about a serial predator here.
This is not once, this is you know, numerous women, numerous assaults.
You know, that's the thing.
If Trump had a consensual affair, you know, maybe that's not in good taste, but it's not a crime that deserves prison time.
And that's what Bill Clinton deserves.
That's right.
And he's not our pastor.
President Trump is not our pastor.
Well, no.
Oh, I think, yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody expected a pastor in chief to quote Jerry Falwell Jr., right?
You know, it that's not my business.
Um everyone should make it their business if it's if if there's been a crime.
I don't care who you are, and simply for the fact of his office and the protection that he's enjoyed and his wife supporting him.
That's why I came forward.
I could not bear to know all the things I know that she did to these women, and you know, made them uh like that they had done something trying to turn it around.
She could not be my leader ever.
Well, Leslie, thanks for sharing your story.
Very different than what everybody heard last night.
Uh Juanita's book, we're putting it up on Hannity.com.
It's on Amazon.com, it's in bookstores, it's called.
You better put some ice on that.
How I survived being raped by Bill Clinton.
You're gonna join us on TV tonight.
Yes.
All right, thanks, Juanita.
Good to see you both.
Thank you both.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800 nine four-one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's go back to last week and the president.
I will never sign another spending bill like this ever again.
Listen to the president.
Therefore, as a matter of national security, I've signed This omnibus budget bill.
There are a lot of things that I'm unhappy about in this bill.
There are a lot of things that we shouldn't have had in this bill, but we were, in a sense, forced.
If we want to build our military, we were forced to have.
There are some things that we should have in the bill.
But I say to Congress, I will never sign another bill like this again.
I'm not going to do it again.
Nobody read it.
It's only hours old.
Some people don't even know what it is.
1.3 trillion dollars.
It's the second largest ever.
President Obama signed one that was actually larger, which I'm sure he wasn't too happy with either.
But in this case, it became so big because we need to take care of our military.
And because the Democrats who don't believe in that added things that they wanted in order to get their votes.
Now, what's amazing about this is the president's, it's it it's so funny how things work and what's in the president's mind.
So the president now, remember, he got 725 billion dollars with a B for the military, which is the reason he said he signed this crappy bill.
But it looks like the president in his impotent wisdom has found a way to bypass do nothing Republicans in Congress and their obstructionist Democratic colleagues like uh Pelosi and Schumer that were making fun of him, and he is going to be exercising his powers of commander in chief, and for national security reasons, we'll be allocating the money to build the entire wall from the defense budget.
And frankly, if he does call it a matter of national security, which it indisputably is, how does anybody stop it?
So the president's gonna sign that order, and I want to see Chuck and Nancy's heads explode, but anyway, uh the president, and I knew this was coming.
I just kept my mouth shut, and I've suggested it ever so humbly last week that the military could be tasked with building the wall.
Because he he tweeted this weekend, because of the 716 billion dollars gotten to rebuild our military, many jobs are created, and our military is rich again.
And he wrote in a posting about the increase of military spending.
Building a great border wall with drugs, poison, and enemy combatants pouring into the country is all about national defense.
Build the wall through the military.
Now, how do you stop the commander in chief from allocating and doing exactly that?
You cannot, which is brilliance on his part.
But as we saw with Stormy Daniels, it's Russia, Russia, Russia, stormy, stormy, stormy.
Well, here's the amazing thing.
So the president also looks like he wants to clean out the deep state by appointing John Bolton now to be the national security advisor, and just listen to the media go insane over that.
This is this is bringing in Tojo.
He said to them no more stupid wars.
Now he brings in the godfather of stupid wars, John Bolton.
I think the president is assembling a war cabinet.
To take a war to Bob Mueller, he's got Joe de Genova.
To take a trade war to China, he's got Larry Cudlow.
And now to actually have a real war, he's got John Bolton.
And the only question is will we find ourselves in a military conflict vis-a-vis North Korea or Iran or both?
If the foreign policy goes in the direction that he has advocated, we are going to be in for a very uh rough, if not calamitous time ahead.
Yeah, this is a bucking bronco.
This man has called for preemptive strikes on North Korea, and Iran for the nuclear programs.
What is going on with this guy?
I find him to be dangerous and let's put me into a state of anxiety today, Franklin.
Well, if there's one guy that understands the deep state, it's John Bolton.
You know what, Sean, I have to interrupt for one second.
Go right ahead.
It's your show.
Of course, you know, just for a brief New York.
You know, just taking a step, but no, in all seriousness, you know, I know I speak for the whole team.
You know, we were sitting here during your interview with with Paula and talking to um not Paula, uh, Juanita.
And um, you know, and Leslie.
And I really just wanted to say, you know, as a woman, you know, watching all of this media spin, you know, taking the time to speak to these victims, it's really important.
You know, you can really see the pain in Juanita's face and hear it in Leslie's voice, and I told Juanita, let me tell you something.
It was one of the hardest, if not up to that point in my life, and I've had a lot of hard interviews.
Interview I I don't feel pressure doing a radio or TV show.
I just don't.
But there's when I interviewed Juanita, I literally had to bite the inside of my cheek because I swore to my I'm never gonna cry on TV.
You described the scene where he was biting on your lip, and then when it was all over, he was leaving.
Said, you better put some ice on that.
Yeah.
And casually put on his sunglasses and walked out the door.
And I've told my friend who came back and found me, that I was sitting there crying and so upset at the time.
And I felt like somebody that the next person would be somebody coming through the door to get rid of the body.
That's just about how I had absolutely uh couldn't believe what had happened to me.
You begged him to stop.
Yes.
I wanted to cry for that woman.
Yeah, and I think, you know, there's something just so upsetting.
Like, here are two women who are her talking about, you know, the fact that they had an affair with someone who wasn't a president twelve years ago, and you know, they're talking about something that they did consensually, and the media hasn't stopped talking about it for days and days and weeks of the city.
They're not gonna.
They're just gonna keep going and going.
But they never talked about Juanita.
They never talked about Paula.
Well, that's why I brought up those quotes earlier in the program.
Horrible.
And it's anyways, just kudos to you.
No, here's the here's the thing.
I mean, once they say it's consensual, and they had a relationship, I guess it was a one-night stand really in the case of Stormy Daniels.
You said it was only one time.
Uh, if you and people can choose to believe, not believe.
I'm not getting into any of those issues, or Karen McDougall or whoever.
Uh I don't disparage people.
I whatever their motives, whatever they whatever they want to tell, I believe in freedom of speech.
It was just like I watched these kids this weekend, and I know some of my conservative friends were outraged about what they're saying, and I I took it totally differently.
I'm taking it as good, they're involved.
Now let me explain to these kids why I want to keep them safe and how I think we can keep them safe.
And even if we disagree, if they really care, my method would keep them safe.
My method would ensure that we could stop 99 plus percent of these school shootings.
I mean, I guess there's always a way to circumvent something.
Um, in the case of I I think Americans knew when they were electing Donald Trump that they weren't electing a pastor.
I think they knew of his life as a New York, you know, high-end realtor guy, real estate guy, that that was not, we all heard the the tape on Access Hollywood.
We nobody liked it.
Um I think that that's the point.
I I look anybody, if this is now gonna be the standard, fine.
But the standards gotta be applied equally.
And a consensual relationship versus rape exposing oneself and groping, fondling, grabbing, touching, and kissing against a woman's will, are very different.
And the facts are the facts that the media only cares and only wants to highlight the consensual relationships because it's Trump.
They would the entire 2016 election cycle, you know, they weren't asking Hillary about the women that were victims.
You know, Hillary said every woman has a right to be heard and believed.
Well, the next logical question is do you believe Juanita Paula, Kathleen, and others?
She never gets those questions, or the fact that she took money for the foundation from countries that abuse women and persecute and kill gays and lesbians and and persecute Christians and Jews.
I wouldn't take money from those countries.
And also the fact that people say, Oh, that's old news, the Bill Clinton, the Hillary stuff, that's old.
Why are we bringing this up?
It's like, you know, unless you're a victim, you wouldn't understand that that pain follows you through life.
That's not just something you wake up one day and say, Oh, I was raped five years ago.
I don't even think about it anymore.
Oh, I was raped ten years ago.
I don't think about it anymore.
I know women who have been through this hell, and there is, and that's the only way to describe it.
It is a trauma that you'll never get over completely.
You know, and as strong as people can be, you it is such a violent violation, and there's violence.
It's uh it's you know, put some ice on that as a book, and it's never been featured on 60 Minutes.
You described a scene where he was biting on your lip, and then when it was all over, he was leaving.
Said, you better put some ice on that.
Yeah.
And casually put on his sunglasses and walked out the door.
And I've told my friend who came back and found me.
That I was sitting there crying and so upset at the time.
And I felt like somebody that the next person would be somebody coming through the door to get rid of the body.
That's just about how I had absolutely couldn't believe what had happened to me.
You begged him to stop.
Yes.
I mean, I think that is a very profound difference here.
And I guess I'm the only one, like usual, I'm the only one in the media pointing out what is uh a glaring hypocrisy.
But this is why I keep saying that journalism and media in America is dead and and buried, and it's sad, and it's the double standard is so transparent, and this is a perfect case in point.
Um I don't know what happened in in any of those cases, but I do believe Juanita, and I do believe Paula, and I do believe Kathleen, and I believe Leslie.
And the reality is I think that because of Bill Clinton's politics, and he was, quote, a liberal and a Democrat, and he agreed with them on certain issues, he got a pass.
And I think that pass existed all the way up to and including November 2016.
You know, this new look, I don't think the Me Too movement is a bad movement at all.
I think that, you know, the Harvey Weinsteins of the world need to be exposed, and and men need to respect women, period.
End of sentence.
I don't even think this there's no it shouldn't be a debate.
But if we're gonna apply standards that are so high on one president that has had a consensual relationship, then you gotta apply it equally when a president and a first lady protected the president and protected her husband all those years when he's a known predator.
And also he is Harvey Weinstein to me.
And also the fact that Donald Trump was not an elected official at this time.
He was acting as a private citizen, and whatever happened between those two adults happened when he was a private citizen.
If they want to bring it up now that he's a president, that's fine.
But as a sitting president to have these kinds of accusations like Kathleen Willie, these things happened to her in the Oval Office.
The the m the amazing thing is, and I learned something during the Clinton impeachment years.
Um, and that was about and ended up being about Monica Lewinsky.
But it really was more than that.
It was about Paula Jones.
And everybody he lost that case.
He paid an $850,000 settlement, lost his law license, and he was impeached.
It wasn't about the interim, but think of it through look at look at Monica through the prism of this me too movement.
Okay, how old was she at the time?
19, 20, 21, something like that?
Okay, and he's the president of the United States of America.
Do you see a power imbalance here that is somewhat inappropriate?
Yeah.
Um, and nobody cared about it at all.
And oh, you just want to talk about sex.
Actually, I don't.
I don't, I think there are certain things in everybody's life that are just nobody else's business.
And I have been so libertarian on this issue for so many years.
Um, and that goes for anybody.
I just don't want I I don't think anybody really really cares, even though they feign outrage about what people do consensually in the privacy of their own homes or apartments or hotels.
I don't think I don't think most people care.
You know, we we have enough trouble putting food on the table, getting our kids out to school, getting him into a good college, surviving, and most people are gulping water every day that that they there might be a titillating side of this, gossipy side of this that people like, but for the most part, does it really transform their their belief or their mindset about somebody?
I don't believe it does.
We're we're way too busy.
I don't care who people date.
I just don't care.
I don't care what their sex lives are.
It's none of my business.
And I felt that way for forever.
And I think the idea that people act like they're so outraged about it all is just it's not accurate.
What?
Go ahead.
Nope.
This is a simple thank you from the team.
Lauren, myself, and the guys were just grateful.
We were so happy to see you do this interview with her today and wait till tonight to have her instead of.
Oh, I'm taking on the whole media tonight.
I am going this this has just got gotten so bad.
It's so out of hand.
There's such a double standard.
There's such hypocrisy, it's ridiculous.
I think you should be looking out the window for the pigs flying since I paid you a compliment on air.
You know, I didn't even notice that I'm so now you're going to see it.
Yeah, that's we really speak to the everyone in here is happy that I'm speaking for them and saying that.
Yeah, Blair does all our web work and Blair is just sitting there.
But when you need Blair, I mean he's here when we don't need him.
I don't need you here today.
I don't need one thing from you.
I need him.
All right, eight hundred Heraldo's in studio, he's laughing at all this.
When we come back, he has lived like a thousand lives in one.
He'll join us next.
All right, news roundup information overload hour, eight hundred nine four one.
Sean Tollfree uh telephone number, you want to be a part of the program.
It's an honor and a privilege and uh a pleasure to welcome in studio our good friend Geraldo Rivera.
He has his brand new book out, The Heraldo Show, a memoir.
And uh I spent all of Saturday reading every page cover to cover.
I had the honor in this book of actually writing the the introduction of the book.
Um Geraldo, I know so he drives you some of you nuts on TV, drives me nuts on TV sometimes.
Um, but he's a patriot's patriot.
And when you read this book and you know, you have put your life you wanted to die in the battlefield.
You even say you wanted to die in the battlefield.
You know, I would be honored when you uh when you think of how I have lived my life to die with my boots on alongside shoulder to shoulder our wonderful GIs in combat there.
You know, I I like life too, but if you go into battle uh, you know, fearful of your own fate, then you don't work as aggressively as you might otherwise.
Well, one of the things um that I loved about the book, it takes you through your this is a biography I've always said about you, and people don't understand we're friends and have been close friends now for a long time, although we started out in a very bizarre way, which I'll tell in a second, and you tell in the book.
Um, but I love that you're passionate about your beliefs.
You've lived a thousand lives in one.
This is what people don't understand.
I mean, you know, from your days of your what, forty-eight years now on television?
Forty-eight years as of Labor Day, yeah.
And you go through the biography, you were in New York.
How old were you when you broke the Willowbrook story?
I was uh twenty-seven years old, a young lawyer, a year and a half in the business, and there was the world's largest and one of the worst institutions on the planet for the developmentally disabled, the population we call mentally retarded in those days.
The Willowbrook institution that was just uh kind of wet behind my ears.
I had no experience with the whole issue.
How did you get in there to see all it was tragic?
I remember it it was vivid.
It had an im it made an impression on me back in the in the day that I didn't even realize human beings can't be treated this way.
That's what it was like the worst kennel in the whole in the whole world.
I knew some doctors, some activist doctors that I had met during uh you know, previous stories I had done.
And also in my life as uh as a young attorney representing like the young lords and other activist groups like that.
So they called me.
They were public health uh service doctors, they worked at the institution, they were quitting, and they said that they could get me a key.
It's so bad, and I like I said, I had no preparation for it.
They got me the key to Ward 6B, and I went in uh and there I saw you know the most incredibly horrifying uh scene anyone can see.
In their own feces, naked, uh living in urine and and really you wouldn't treat an animal the way they were treating these these people in this institution.
To this very day, of all the people who respond to me.
And you know, lots of people were very friendly.
I've been on television, like you said, uh half a century.
It's the families of the disabled, uh the developmentally disabled who who come to me as if I'm a member of their family.
You have to remember that like everybody would uh uh family uh child with a down syndrome, for example, they would be institutionalized in the old days.
Anyone with uh what we call uh autism.
Look at the Kennedy family, what they did to one of their daughters.
And even going so far as uh uh, you know, what do they call it?
The uh the shock uh the brain uh electric shock therapy.
And it was just horrible stuff.
And the candidates actually did it uh Joe Kennedy, the father of Jack Kennedy.
They did basically a lobotomy and destroyed this girl on Rosemary.
And she was institutionalized for the rest of her life.
I mean, even I think that a lot of what their activism now in the area is is uh is a a familial guilty conscience over the way they treated their own.
But lots of People did.
Poor people, rich people, everybody.
They were encouraged to institutionalize their youngsters.
Don't deal with the severe, uh retarded uh population, as they call them then, the profoundly retarded.
Uh now that by the way, I I want everybody to know this was the terminology back in the day.
Back in 1970, 1972.
Yeah.
Yep, it absolutely was.
And now we have a bob.
Now we know that they have the same right to uh as normal a life as they possibly can to have their potential fulfilled.
And when they're loved and nurtured.
And live in a small community-based environment.
They do very well.
Better than anybody ever thought.
Vocational training.
Everything.
Absolutely.
They the this population has been liberated now, and all these awful institutions have been closed.
Thank God.
But it was a quite a start to my uh to my life, to my career.
It led me, you know, from the eyewitness news days, it nationalized me as a personality, started my first national show, Goodnight America.
I remember that too.
Well, this is the thing, and we go through in this book, you take us through your life and your career, and okay, that was one big moment with Willowbrook, but then you were uh a street reporter in New York.
You're the first million dollar man uh out on the streets reporting for ABC 7, and then the time that you spend at 2020, and then the time uh that you started your daytime show.
And I'm on you even did a morning show at one point.
You were on Good Morning America.
I didn't even know.
Good morning America, the founding cast of Good Morning America.
Yeah, I was uh I was there with David Hartman, Nancy Dusseau, uh Frank Gifford.
Right, you know, uh uh Dan uh Don Meredith.
Right.
They were together, Don Meredith and Frank Gifford.
We used to go out uh, you know, all night, go wake up and do the show and then go to sleep.
You uh there's a lot of stories that I know that are not in the book.
Oh no, we don't tell those stories in this book.
Um, this is a this is a a memoir of war and peace and remembrance and my relationship with the president.
One of the things, and I'm gonna get to that, uh we're probably gonna keep you as a matter of fact, uh we'll take calls at the bottom of the hour with her aldo, if that's okay with you guys, okay.
Um one of the things that I love about it is I've lived a big part of this second half of your life, and I'm reading transcripts of when you were in Torobora, you were there alone.
The the description, I never knew how bad it was and how difficult it was, and how you had basically bought your way into Torabora.
Um and I'm learning and how you bought a gun to protect yourself.
I'm proud of you for that.
Um but all of these experiences, you you really could have died there.
I just want to say that our friendship is a big part of this book.
How you know we're different generations, uh ideologically speaking, we're catching up though, fast.
Your hair is, I noticed.
Oh boy.
You haven't you haven't there.
Get the Lady Clarole or whatever.
Seriously, Haraldo, you're gonna I you come into my studio, I'm saying it's the best book I ever read.
It's you've lived a thousand lives, but it we our intersections are amazing.
I guess I have to tell the story.
Good.
So the day you got hired, now I was competing against you.
You were on CNBC and during OJ and Lewinsky, you had a massive cable audience.
And I remember when I started, it was I was up against you, Brian Williams, uh, Larry King.
I mean, and we had some really stiff competition.
At nine o'clock.
They were all in their heyday, too.
And and at one point, it the only one that was left that we weren't beating was you.
Um and you were doing really well.
And then I was doing my radio show one day, and I got word you're hired, and I'm like, Haraldo, why are we harriering him?
I've been at war with this guy for and I go off, and Roger got mad.
Roger Ailes, our boss, the founder of Fox News.
He pulled me into his office the next day.
And this is the great behind the scenes story is I was warned he's pretty pissed off.
He doesn't tell he doesn't like people telling him how to run his network.
And so I walked in.
I said, You know what, boss, I'm so sorry.
He had a speech, he was gonna rip me.
I am so sorry.
I uh you know what?
Who am I to?
I'm just a dopey talk show host.
I talked, and he's like, uh uh and finally I wouldn't let him talk.
He goes, get out of here.
I said I'll never happen again.
That's how that meeting went down.
But starting from that, where you you had 180 degree opposition to me, we've become the best friends.
I seventeen years later, we become best friends.
I have never met anybody as kind, generous, passionate, loving as Geraldo Rivera.
Um I know a lot of people talk about you've been married five times.
I've been busy.
And every ex-wife loves you more than the other because you've always been kind and generous, and and it was never you there was no dis How do you ever how did you pull that off?
Well, that's an ex- Everybody else I know divorced, like I hate the other person.
That's an excellent question.
Uh you know, there there has never been a public word uttered from any of my four ex-wives, a negative word about me.
I mean, and I think the key to it is to remember when you get divorced, if you get first of all, I I why'd I get married so many times?
I got married because I believed in marriage.
I'm an old fashioned uh 1950s kind of guy.
It's just the then the the pressure of being a celebrity and young and having money for the first time.
Yeah, the pressure of being a celebrity and getting all that money.
Everyone's really relating to that.
But the the key the key is to be generous and not uh and r remember that you love them and particularly the the l the last two, you know, you uh eat they have mansions, they living well, and uh you know, I I honored them, I love them, the mothers of my of my children, they're part of my extended family.
And you still see them.
I see them, uh we see them all the time.
They're invited, they'll be at the book party next week.
Yeah, were there gonna be five X fives there?
Not in four.
Are they all gonna be there?
I'm throwing this book party for Heraldo.
So nice of you.
So nice.
The book is called the Hur Geraldo Show.
So you're in Torobora.
Explain this was really precarious.
I didn't know until I read the book, and you did have a few transcripts of when you were on Hannity and Combs at the time.
I I was I had no idea.
The thing about Toura Bora is we knew the war had basically ended.
Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan fell in November of two thousand and one.
First of all, I think a very interesting story is why I left CNBC very briefly.
I left C N B C because even though I had the number one rated show, Rivera Live, they would not let me go to Afghanistan after nine eleven.
Nine eleven was something that was like a knife in my belly.
What would you wrote in the book?
How many people in your community, like a hundred and ninety-five fathers?
Of just Middletown, New Jersey, because Canta Fitzgerald, the big uh financial firm at the World Trade Center, two floors were wiped out.
They lost like over six hundred of their nine hundred New York employees on nine eleven.
A kid that I went to high school with, he died that day.
Terrible, just terrible.
And his and his brother.
My uh my then six-year-old uh when I finally got her on the phone said, Daddy, I I know girls whose daddies were d were killed, and you know, six dads in their in their pre sch in their uh grade school, six dads in their little grade school, you know, Rumson Country Day was just so painful, and to not be able to go and cover the war.
I just told I was working at CNBC.
Roger had asked me to come to Fox News.
I turned him down a couple of times, but after 911, after they the war you took a big pay cut because you wanted to go to Afghanistan.
I I took a cut from five to two.
I mean, that's a big cut.
I took forty percent of it.
You forty percent of what you're saying.
Yeah, I took I'm I was working for Fox for 40% of what I was getting at CMBC.
But I was going after Osama bin Laden who killed my friends, who who disrupted my city, and to go there.
So anyway, the war against him uh against uh Al Qaeda and the Taliban going very well.
All the whole country is basically conquered, but bin Laden is still at large.
I get a tip from the you know uh uh Abdul Abdullah, the guy who runs the uh co-president of Afghanistan to this day.
We think he's in Toura Bora.
We'll get you a helicopter down to the Jalalabad, same place where they burnt his dead body ten years later.
Uh Jalalabad, and then you can convoy to Tora Bora.
By the way, this helicopter was left over from the Mujahideen fighting the Russians.
It was a wreck.
Uh all right, Geraldo Rivera is with uh is with us.
This book is phenomenal.
This is a uh book about a thousand lives lived in one, and Heraldo takes you on this journey, which is his incredible life.
It's called the Geraldo Show.
I want to ask you about the daytime show uh when we get back, and then in the next half hour, we're gonna let you call in if you want to talk to Geraldo, 800 941 Sean Tollfree uh telephone number.
I'll get your thoughts on Stormy Daniels and all this, you know, deep state Gayton and the president and much more.
Uh 800 941 Sean, quick break.
The book is on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
You it's a page turner.
I could not stop reading it uh when I picked it up.
I just I couldn't put it down.
You're gonna love it.
A phenomenal life that he is living, uh and one I envy in a lot of ways.
All right, as we continue with uh Geraldo Rivera's got a brand new book out.
It's a memoir, it's the Geraldo Show, and he has lived a thousand lives in One and uh he's also become a very dear friend, even though we disagree.
I'm gonna get to that in the next half hour.
People can call in and and talk to you.
The Geraldo show, the the the clan, the busted nose, the fighting.
I I'm not gonna lie, I love that stuff.
I was once on your daytime show years ago.
Only once, yeah, too bad.
Yeah.
You were uh, you know, you i in terms of I I think that as people grow up, or as they become, you know, we uh they start, you know, the years start tolling.
It's rare to make new friends.
And I think that when particularly when you're public people, there's an aspect of trust that has to be surmounted.
And I I think that what happened with us is at some point we said to each other, you know something?
You've got my back.
I've got your back.
And that once that alliance is forged, nobody could break it.
But I have a deep respect for you.
I mean, what you explained in the last segment is you're making five million dollars a year, you go to two million because you lost your friends on 9-11 and you wanted to go into a war zone.
Um, I'm not even gonna ask your age, but I'll give you an example.
You we need you in Parkland, you're down in Parkland.
We need you in Austin, Texas, you're down in Austin, Texas.
And and you're you just you wanna be there.
You look there's no better street reporter on earth.
And I'm usually saying to myself, Where's Heraldo?
Is he there?
Because I don't want you know, you know where the action is.
The other night when we were live on the air and you and you were down in Austin, and you're like right behind me, you can see everything that's happening, and you bring us into that that's a gift.
A lot of people can't do that.
Well, you know, I may be lame in terms of my physical uh you know conditions.
I don't know, I had that back surgery, so I'm pulling one leg and I'm almost 75 years old.
Yeah.
Uh but I love it out there.
I I I love the uh, you know, when you bring li first of all, the the technology is evolved so much.
When I was in Afghanistan, we had two tons of equipment.
Right.
That chopper when it took off had not only the six of us, but two tons of equipment.
No wonder it couldn't get over the mountain.
No, no wonder it crashed later.
Yeah.
Uh but but the you know, now nowadays with the live view and all the technology, you really can bring the people right to the how heavy would that equipment be?
Nowadays, maybe a hundred pounds, maybe.
Unbelievable.
And you could you could do it with an iPhone now.
It's crazy.
You really can.
You could do you really can do FaceTime.
I mean, it's like everyone's got a picture of whatever's going on.
All right, Geraldo's new book, the Geraldo Show, a memoir, phenomenal life and career of courage, and he's always been in the action.
And he brings you inside of of a life well, really a thousand lives lived in one so far, and has got a lot a lot more time and a lot long way to go.
Uh it's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
Uh, your questions for Geraldo, when we get back, we'll talk a little bit more about the book.
We'll talk about the president, we'll talk about Stormy Daniels and uh the other news of the day.
As we continue, glad you're with us.
800 nine four one Sean is our number.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
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We're gonna get to your calls here, I promise in just a minute.
His brand new book is out, a memoir, the Geraldo Show.
Um, so I mentioned I'm not trying to, but you talk so openly about your life, and and that's what makes you fun.
Is there is no pretense in you whatsoever.
And I love that part of you.
Um you've been married now, the fifth marriage, 18 years.
How many kids do you have, and what are their age ranges?
Five children.
Yeah.
Uh 40, 30, 25, yeah, 23, and 12.
That's a pretty big disparity.
First two are boys, the last three are girls.
So but you know, the great thing about it is that we're you you know, are you a better father?
I am a much better father right now.
I'm less selfish, you know, when when I was a young man.
Right.
Uh so it was a lot of churn in my social life.
So even then, even those are the stories that I know that are not in the book.
No, but I we get together and and you know, Erica is almost the same age as you know, uh, my oldest is 40, Erica is 43.
But she is such a grand character, such a wonderful, loving.
How old was she?
You were she was 27.
Twenty when we got married, she was 27, I was sixty.
Yeah.
Now, was that a problem at all for her?
Well, you know, I don't know if it was so it there's a lot of social pressure, and certainly her parents were very concerned.
And you know, I even thought about it myself.
I said, you know, there's gonna come a time where I'm gonna be 75 and you're gonna be 43, and I'm gonna be worried about your future.
You're gonna survive me by 50 years.
I've got to make sure that I am successful enough and how did she take that brutal honesty from you?
Uh, you know, she we uh after 18 years together, we really have a I I've uh a lot of uh a wonderful communication.
She's she is my best friend, and and she is the mother of all those children, even the children just three years younger than than she is.
She is in in inclusive, she's caring.
No, she's a remarkable woman.
And she can deal with it.
But the funniest thing is that the wedding, you know, with all of the different religions.
I'm half Catholic, half Jewish.
Uh uh, we had the wedding at the Central Synagogue in New York and Cheech, Marin, uh we played Oye como va a Tito Puentes Oyuco.
I was reading that.
I really died before.
That's never been played there before.
Not in that synagogue.
Yeah.
But uh it's been a it's been a a great life.
And uh, you know, I but it's not uh you listen, besides I'm proud to coin count you as one of the people.
Did you ever like for example I and I feel the same about you?
I worry sometimes when my dogs get older.
You're you're really describing a very harsh reality about age.
That's it.
And I know you're healthy, and I know you you've got great genes in your family, right?
My mom's 98, 98 years old.
My dad passed early.
He had uh diabetes.
I don't think I yeah, so did but does that pull on you?
All right, I'm gonna have a kid.
How old were you when you had your your li youngest?
Well, I'm almost 75 and she's 12, you know, so it's uh you know, sixty-three.
Yeah.
So did you think when you had this kid, oh God, what if I die?
Well, a lot of people said, How are you gonna have a kid at your age?
You know, first of all, your sperm's all gonna be shot.
Yeah uh second.
Apparently not.
Second of all, uh you're gonna use a walker when you go to her little league.
But you know, I I am you know, I go to her school all the time because I'm a good attentive dad.
And I am like the oldest.
You know, I used to be I in the book I talk about I used to be Marshall Dillon, now I'm Chester.
I drank my limpy pudding or dragging in there.
Uh but uh I still have good hair, you know, but the small waistline, I still use the same thing.
You need the same you need the same coloring I do.
All right, thanks a lot.
Um you're so engaged and alive.
Um one of the things that I was that actually fascinated me in the book too is this trip with the travel uh channel where you went around in your boat around the world.
Like you love sailing.
I love sailing and and adventure, and we sailed that old boat all around the world uh at the equator, going to all those fabulous places, Tahiti, Bora Bora.
And it took you two years.
It took uh two years, but I flew back and forth you know to do my job.
I had plenty of vacation time.
That's why I met Jay Monahan, you know, Katie Corriggs' uh late husband.
He died at what, like 42.
42, he's 42, but he was my substitute host.
Yeah.
Uh you know, when I was away on the sailboat, and Dan Abrams also uh who, you know, now he runs media, big wall news, and then so I took the boat around the world with uh, you know, my then wife CeCe, and then uh Erica finished the that trip, and I took her up the Amazon 1,400 miles up the Amazon.
That was another four-hour uh special travel.
But you were describing that.
I remember the the Amazon trip.
Uh what was it, two thousand miles, right?
Uh the Amazon?
It's 1400 miles up and back.
You go up at two miles an hour, you come back at you know, you're flying with that current, that mighty river in the jungle.
What an that's what I mean when I say you lived a thousand lives.
Um let me ask you some some current events.
Uh but you last question first about TV.
You were not you were glad you got in that fight with those bigots.
Oh, yeah.
I I thought it I said, you know, I I wore my war boots.
Uh in my Herman Survivors with the steel tips, and I and the guy at one point threatened me early on.
You see, uh the brawl is what's most famous.
But the guy says, I'm gonna I said, careful, you're not dealing with the people you used to deal with here.
Good.
And it's but the problem is I got cold cock with that chair.
It was the first thing that happened.
The guy threw the chair and broke my nose.
But then I uh as soon as I singled out who did it, I jumped on top of him.
I was pounding the hell out of the guy.
And it was it's I think it's the best studio brawl ever caught on tape.
No, I don't think it's close.
I didn't forget about the phony ones that Jerry Springer talked about.
Listen, Morton Downey was a trip too.
He was a lot of fun.
He was a lot of fun.
Um Stormy Daniels, what do you think?
I thought it was a pretty uh hyped, overblown uh, you know, I didn't think much of her.
I I didn't I I liked her, but I didn't believe her.
And I I certainly did not believe that uh, you know, a single mom with an infant child in a parking lot once threatened by a thug allegedly who says that uh you know stay off Donald Trump, you know, allegedly, or you know, uh your kids in the group.
Yeah.
You know, and you don't call 911, you don't tell any grown-ups, you have you don't make any documentation of it.
There's no she never mentioned it earlier until now.
It it it's suddenly now it's 2011.
This has been.
But here's the bigger question.
Because and you were probably I don't even know if Bill Clinton survives without you.
That that's how pivotal a role you played in the impeachment.
And and we were on other sides of that issue.
And you always were getting scoops because the Clinton people obviously were feeding you in it because the president himself was feeding you information.
But but you did some of your best work too.
And the the most phenomenal thing about that is okay, well, Monica was consensual, even though he had a position of power.
Now we're in this me too era.
But Juanita Broderick says she was raped.
Kathleen Willie was grope, grabbed, fondled, kissed against her will.
Paul Jones, he exposed himself.
And the media never in the case of Stormy Daniels, doesn't matter whether you believe or don't believe, and it's she's claiming consensual, a consensual relationship going back what, 13 years, and the same with Karen McDougall is claiming a consensual relationship.
How is it the media that ignored rape exposure and groping and grabbing is now all over this 24-7.
Because they hate Donald Trump.
And it is that hatred that is speaking.
I really believe that what you're seeing now, why is Stormy Daniels believed, for example, and Wana Broderick uh not believed.
It is precisely because of their feeling of Donald Trump.
They hate him, they want to destroy him.
And I just want to say that I believe that you now are the are the rock that will sustain the 45th president.
I really believe that's a lot, Haraldo.
No, I I do I I think that when you go back in 1973, like with Richard Nixon, if you had existed in 1973 in your current power and uh and uh influence, Nixon never would have been forced to resign.
No, but there was no support for him back in those days.
Well, it wasn't likeable though.
But the the liberals ate him up and he had no one to defend him.
Now Donald Trump has you and to a limited extent more limited.
People like you, but a sincere I I love the president and will not allow people to be unfair to him.
Stormy Daniels is a is a is just another example of how stories are being hyped or given uh uh inflated credibility because of the the dislike.
There has never been since Nixon at least, a president who had more worse press.
Everything he says or does is construed in the most evil way possible.
He never gets a break.
Do you agree with me that there are powerful forces against him?
You got the media.
Uh I think, but for a few of us, it's basically everybody else against him.
So the media is against him.
Uh Democrats obviously are against him.
This deep state that we talk about is against him, and that's real.
The things that they've been we've never had a president talk to foreign leaders and an hour later the conversation is leaked.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
Uh so you got the deep state, you got the media, you got Democrats, you got weak Republicans too.
And these never Trumper people.
That's five, that's almost like him against the world.
I'm not saying he's perfect, but I mean, he actually has a pretty large set of accomplishments.
And I don't think he's doing this for fame and fortune because he already has it.
And you would think people would put what's best for the country in saving the country first, but they don't.
Politics is first.
When you look at uh the like the Stormy Daniels saga and how uh how much attention, obsessive attention, CNN, for example, is paying to that very thin story.
Then you go back to the McCabe and the FBI and the two lovers and the and the swapping messages and so forth.
It is clear going to your point about deep state gate or or the government that the perennial government, the government that doesn't change, the people who stay in Washington, they loathe this president.
They it's clear, and you in your show, unbelievably, you're the only one who broke facts, not uh your opinion and your passion, which are important, but you were the one that came up with uh, you know, and first broadcast that that this guy's talking to this guy.
We have to have insurance policies to make sure the president is not elected.
How does the media ignore that?
You've been in this business fifty.
This is the biggest abuse of power scandal ever, and they're ignoring it.
They see and they repeat what reaffirms their prejudice.
They don't, they're not now.
I I think when you look at Jeff Zucker, but he hates this president.
And there's almost like a personal uh vendetta between the president of CNN and the president of the United States.
How can that be?
They I think that when you look at Donald Trump's life right now, he wakes up every morning knowing that there are 20 of the best reporters on earth at the Washington Post, 20 more at the New York Times.
They wake up every day trying to kill him, trying to get the whatever it is.
So that's how he starts his day.
Knowing that the world, you know, 80% of the media is against him.
80, 98, maybe, maybe it's not.
That's why people say that he's obsessed with uh you and Fox News.
You have to, it's has to be.
Amy in uh Colorado, on with Geraldo Rivera.
How are you, Amy?
Welcome to the program.
Hi, Sean.
Hi, Geraldo.
Hi, Amy.
Um being Heraldo, you've seen a lot in your life and been to a lot of places that we probably would never go.
Well, that's the hardest part of the book you had to write as far as bringing back memories for you.
That's a great question.
The the worst memory I had in Tourabor was being a uh accused of uh of saying I was someplace I was not.
This is the friendly fire incident.
This is the friendly fire.
There was a friendly fire incident in Kandahar.
I thought it was the same friendly fire incident in Tora Bor that we had seen.
It was an innocent mistake, but the same forces that are attacking Donald Trump now attacked me.
There I was at Fox News, which was then surging in the ratings.
We came from nowhere.
You you got to Tora Bora a week before anybody else.
I had live cameras and things blowing up and the you know courage and and infancy charges and casualties coming back.
Getting shot at.
Getting shot at and bombed.
Uh so I think that Amy, the toughest thing was telling that story how it made me, as Sean mentioned at the top of the show, almost suicidal.
And then I was reckless.
Then I didn't care whether I lived or died.
I wanted so much to purge myself, my honor with courage, and I tell that story.
But you also sacrificed so many millions of dollars because your commitment to do this.
It was like, for example, the the map drawing incident.
Everybody in the military loved you.
You didn't give away secrets, but they tried to make it out into something it never was.
You know, uh it's the uh Roger Al said to me, our our late lamented uh boss said to me, I had no idea when I hired you.
You had this big bullseye on your ass.
All right, let's go to Don and Lake Ron Concama.
You're on with Geraldo.
Hi.
Hey, Geraldo.
Hey, uh Sean, great to talk to you both.
Thank you, Don.
What's happening?
Hey, listen, I'm just like to know.
I know you're you've been there's so many dangerous assignments.
Like a Tora Bor, you've been down to Katrina, you covered the Ferguson riots and the people.
You cost me a lot of trouble that night in Katrina, by the way.
Oh man, but with big ratings, though.
A five share.
Sean, I mean, uh Geraldo, your uh dangerous assignments are well documented.
What was your most embarrassing assignment?
Oh you know, uh I did uh 2,000 episodes of my daytime show, and when I took the fat out of my butt and had it injected in my forehead to do away with the wrinkles, that's some I have to really live down.
Geraldo, we love you.
I love you.
Uh it's called the Heraldo Show, and it's a memoir, a thousand lives lived in one and still going strong.
It's in bookstores everywhere, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, uh, my brother.
We'll see you tonight on TV.
And uh we have a big party for you one week from today.
I can't wait.
Me and Rupert Murdoch are throwing your party.
Yeah, it's for day.
Oh, it's gonna be fun.
All right, uh quick break.
We'll come back, wrap things up here.
Uh, we got an amazing Hannity tonight.
The rest of the media will not match this, I promise you, nine Eastern.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
We well, I am going to eviscerate the news media in this country tonight.
We've got all the sound, all the tape, all the history, and the hypocrisy.
This is gonna be one for the ages.
And then we're gonna look at victims and talk to victims, Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones, and we'll remind you how the media treated them.
And the president gets tough on Vladimir Putin.
Of course, that's not going to be covered tonight because that doesn't fit the Russia Russia Russia narrative.
