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Uh the president is meeting with Republicans and Democrats to discuss school safety and gun laws in America.
Let's dip in to hear what he is saying.
Period.
Then we've experienced we have to do something about it.
We now have to do something.
We have to act.
We can't wait and play games and nothing gets done.
And I really believe that the people, this is bipartisan, it's a bipartisan meeting.
And we're going to discuss safe schools.
And we can really get there, but we have to do it.
We don't want to wait two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, and people sort of forget, and then we go back on, and then we have another problem.
We want to stop the problems from having.
So as we continue to mourn the loss of so many precious young lives in Parkland, Florida, we're determined to turn our grief into action.
I really believe that.
I mean, I see some folks that don't say nice things about me, and that's okay.
Because if you turn that into this energy, I'll love you.
I don't care.
We're gonna we're gonna be able to do it.
Sadly, these horrible mass shootings are nothing new.
I asked for just a list of I mean, you look at Columbine, Colorado, Bill Clinton was present, Virginia Tech, George Bush, Fort Hood, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Pulse Night Club, and so many more.
It's ridiculous.
So today we're here in a bipartisan fashion to show leadership in an effort to end this senseless violence and it violence, it can be ended, and it will be ended.
First, we must harden our schools against attack.
These include allowing people with a certified uh training, very talented people to carry firearms.
Now, some people are gonna disagree with that, and I understand that.
I fully understand that.
And if you do, I want you to speak up today and we'll listen.
But 98% of all mass shootings in the United States since 1950 have taken place in gun-free zones.
Gun where guns were not inside the school, or as an example, you take Pulse Nightclub.
If you had one person in that room that could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn't have happened, or certainly not to the extent it did, where he was just in there shooting and shooting and shooting, and they were defenseless.
So just remember that.
98% of all mass public shootings in the United States since 1950 have taken place in gun-free It's terrible.
You've got to have defense too.
You can't just be sitting ducks.
And that's exactly what we've allowed people in these buildings and schools to be.
Second, we have to confront mental health.
There's never been a case that I've ever seen.
I'm sure everybody would feel the same, where mental health was so obviously 39 different red flags.
I mean, everybody was seeing them.
The local police, the state police, the FBI, everybody was seeing that this guy was sick and nothing happened.
Third, we have to ensure that when students educate his Family, neighbors, that when they warn authorities, that the authorities act quickly and decisively, unlike what took place in Florida, which was horrible.
Fourth, we have to pursue common sense measures that protect the rights of law abiding Americans while keeping guns.
And we have to keep the guns out of the hands of those that pose the threat.
And this really includes background checks.
And I know, Senator, that you're working on things.
Joe, I know you're working, and uh I mean, I'm looking at a number of the folks around the table.
You're working on different bills.
We have to get them, we have to get them done.
We have to get them done.
Um, and they have to be strong.
The background checks, hey, look, I'm the biggest fan of the second amendment.
Many of you are.
Uh I'm a big fan of the NRA, but I've met I had lunch with them with Wayne and Chris and David on Sunday, and said it's time.
We've got to stop this nonsense.
It's time.
So we've made suggestions to many of you, and I think you're going to put a lot of those suggestions in.
Plus, you're going to have your own ideas.
Uh certain ideas sound good, but they're not they're not good.
You know, you can harden the site to a level that nobody can get in.
The problem is if the shooter's inside and he gets the if he gets in the door and closes the door, we can't get people in.
It's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars all over the country, and we'll have nice hard sites.
The door closes, and now we can't get in.
Have to send the tractor through the walls.
So we have to be careful of that.
And we have to create a culture that cherishes life and human dignity.
So we're going to all sit around, we're going to come up with some ideas.
Hopefully, we can put those ideas in a very bipartisan bill.
It would be so beautiful to have one bill that everybody could support, as opposed to, you know, 15 bills, everybody's got their own bill.
But if we could have one terrific bill that everybody started by the people around this table, special people.
These are the people that seem to be just most interested, very interested in this problem, and it's a big problem.
So with that, I think I'd like to start.
Maybe I'll ask John, you can start off, and then we'll go back and forth.
We'll leave the media for a little while and they can hear some thought.
But it's something that can be done.
There's no reason for this.
But again, I really believe that those people, it's idealistic, it's wonderful, it's a beautiful thing.
But if you think that somebody's going to be able to walk into a school, if they feel that they're not going to have bullets coming at them from the other direction, uh, you're never going to solve the problem.
I feel that.
I feel that.
But I'm certainly open to suggestions.
So uh John, why don't you start?
You've uh put in your fixed nicks and let's see how it is.
And go ahead.
Well, thank you, Mr. President, for getting us together and for expressing uh your sincere concern about this and trying to get us to a solution.
I agree with you that uh leaving this town and going home empty-handed is not acceptable.
The public demands that we act.
We know how hard it is to get people together on a bipartisan basis, but believe it or not, at least in one case, uh Senator Murphy and I, and we have a 46 uh co-sponsors to the fixed mix bill in the Senate.
The House has passed uh its version of it, and um I believe this is a good place for us to start.
As you know, Sutherland Springs uh we lost 26 people when they guy who uh in the Air Force was convicted felon, he was convicted of domestic violence, and he was less than honorably discharged from the military, none of which was uploaded into the background check system maintained by the FBI, and the that's only as good as the data that's put into it.
So, Senator Murphy and I, and 46 Senate colleagues on a bipartisan basis, have what we think is a start.
It's not the end all be all.
There's other things that people want to add to it.
You talked about the bump stock issue that Senator Feinstein, I know cares passionately about.
And I'm gonna write that out.
But let's get it.
We can do that with an executive order.
I'm gonna write the bump stock essentially, write it out.
So you won't have to worry about bump stock shortly, that'll be gone.
We can focus on Other things.
Frankly, I don't even know if it would be good in this bill.
It's nicer to have a separate piece of paper where it's gone.
And we'll have that done pretty quickly.
They're working on it right now, the lawyers.
Go ahead.
But we need to get started on things that only we can do, which would be this background check system.
People have other ideas.
They ought to offer those ideas.
I'm not sure all of them will pass, but in the past we've uh we've we've acquiesced to failure and have not uh done things we know were within our power to accomplish, like the fixed nix bill.
So I would just like to recommend to you and to colleagues here that we get that done and we build on it.
We don't stop there, we build on it.
And uh, because we none of us want to look these families in the face in the wake of another mass shooting and say we failed to do everything within our power uh to stop and John fixed nix has some really good things in it, but it would be nice if we could add everything onto it, and maybe you change the title, all right?
The U.S. background check bill or whatever.
Your bill is really good and really important having to do with a certain aspect.
But maybe we could make it much more comprehensive and have one bill instead of 15 different bills that nobody knows what's happening.
If we can get 60 votes for it, Mr. President.
I think honestly, I think uh look, I really believe this is one of the things where you can actually get the 60 votes and maybe easily Diane, do you have something?
Well, I do.
Um, Mr. President, um you probably know this, but I became mayor of San Francisco as a product of assassination.
I've been the victim of terrorist groups.
Um the department gave me a weapon, they taught me how to shoot it, and we proceeded through the 1970s that way.
What I've watched and seen is the development of weapons that I never thought would leave the battlefield that are out on our streets.
And the latest and newest, Mr. Chairman, is the AR-15.
Um it's got a lot of assets to it, and it's it's misused, and it tears apart a human body with the velocity.
And I've watched the school shootings in particular, which you um pointed out.
And I thought Sandy Hook, and I'm delighted that Senator Murphy is here today, we thought Sandy Hook would be the end, and he and I introduced another assault weapons bill after the first one.
We didn't succeed with it, but the killings have gone on, the number of incidents have gone up, and I put my case in writing, which I will give you if I may, uh, in letter form.
Good.
Thank you.
And secondly, the assault weapons legislation.
This is the number of incidents before and of of um of incidents and of deaths.
This is when the 10-year assault weapon ban was in, how incidents and deaths drop.
When it ended, you see it going up.
Okay.
So Senator Murphy and 26 of us have co-sponsored a new bill.
I would be most honored if you would take a look at it.
I will, I will.
And uh, we will get it to you and let us know what you what you think of it.
I will.
And thank you.
Thank you very much.
Uh Chris, go ahead.
Uh Mr. President, Mr. Vice President, thank you very much.
Thank you for taking this seriously.
Um, our our hearts go out to uh Parkland.
We know having gone through this in Sandy Hook that that community will never ever be the same.
Um and I want to bring us back to this issue of background checks, if I could, because I think there's real opportunity.
I agree.
There is no other issue out there in the American public today like background checks.
97% of Americans want universal background checks.
In states that have universal background checks, there are 35% less gun murders than in states that don't have them, and yet we can't get it done.
Nothing else like that, where it works, people want it, and we can't do it.
But you have a different president now.
Well, listen, I mean you went through a lot of presidents and you didn't get it done.
Do you have a different president?
And I think maybe you have a different attitude too.
I think people want to get it done.
Well, listen, in the end, Mr. President, um, the reason that nothing has gotten done here is because the gun lobby has had a veto power over any legislation that becomes before Congress.
I wish that wasn't the case, but that is.
And if all we end up doing is the stuff that the gun industry supports, all right.
let me step in here.
This is a uh yeah, the president meeting with a bipartisan group of lawmakers on school safety, guns, and everything pretty much is on the table.
You heard the president make out lay out his case.
Ninety-eight percent of shootings uh in over since nineteen fifty, if you can believe it, have been in gun-free zones.
And the president talked at length about how the public how defense is important, how in fact people need def defense, and you can't be sitting ducks.
And he talked about confronting the mental health issues.
Then he talked about, you know, how the warning signs were missed in this case down in Florida, and how do we balance protecting second amendment rights, background checks, and so on and so forth.
You heard Dunnie Ann Feinstein and Chris Murphy, they were going into another aspect of this, obviously with a pretty left-wing liberal agenda, but I guess that's what hearing all sides is all about.
I'm not so sure that you get agreement.
Obviously, I disagree with what the Democr uh Democratic Senator from Connecticut was just saying.
All right, we'll get back to some of this.
We'll also get to our other agendas here of the day.
We got a lot coming up, uh, including the signs that were missed, including the 39 trips to the home of Nicholas Cruz, including the two calls to the FBI.
We have Hillary and her audacity on display today in a way we've never talked about.
And also we have how are the Pfizer judge, if I'd a judges that were lied to, feeling about being lied to?
We're gonna update you on that.
All this coming up uh this afternoon here on the Sean Hannity show.
All right, glad you're with us, 800 941.
Sean, how did you miss all of the signs?
Thirty-nine particular individual stops at Nicholas Cruz's house.
Thrown out of school.
He wasn't allowed to bring a backpack to school.
Two FBI direct warnings about this guy wanting to be a school shooter.
How do you how do you miss all of that?
Uh Bernie Carrig, who was the MYPD police commissioner, he's gonna join us later.
Uh he says this guy down in this Israel sheriff in Broward County, he's gotta go.
I don't think I've ever seen this type of arrogance on display my entire life.
Yeah, the deputy never went in.
Yeah, I didn't look at the video for a week.
It wasn't my job.
Yeah, it's not my fault when my deputies fail.
Uh oh, and I've given amazing leadership at Brouwer as Broward Sheriff.
I I I'd have been the first person in.
Well, it turns out there were four people that didn't go in, and they they actually said to the EMTs, you can't go in.
There are people bleeding.
I mean, seconds matter in a moment like that.
That's the difference between life and death.
Israel, I don't know anything about a stand down order.
Well, we know the EMTs were told not to go in.
We know Coral Gable's police, you know, have now gone on the record saying, Yeah, we were told that they're waiting for the SWAT team to get there.
Meanwhile, they ran into the building.
And I don't understand somebody sitting outside in the middle of a shooting, and it was his job to protect the school.
I don't know cops like that.
I don't know law enforcement like that.
As a matter of fact, you we saw the difference.
How many times have we seen any of these incidents?
You see what happens.
You see how those brave men and women in uniform, how they risk their lives.
Think back to the Steve's Calice shooting.
You know, how what about those two officers that ran in an open field going up against a a rifle?
You're not gonna win.
But they did it anyway.
Or the people that went up as people were coming down the trade center buildings.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800 nine four one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program?
I want to go to Beasy.
That's the name, Deerfield Beach, Florida.
Apparently was a a former deputy from Broward County.
Did you work under Scott Israel?
No, sir, I did not.
I I was there between they took our city over in ninety-nine and I retired at eleven.
But I tell you one thing about the Broward Sheriff's are very, very political.
And you don't step on other people's toes.
And the three men, the three BSO deputies that that everybody says stayed outside, I would have no doubt that somebody, either lieutenant, a captain, sergeant, let them boys know to stand down and wait for SWAT.
Because everybody wants to be the first one to be the hero in this department.
And uh unfortunately uh I would m my money is on that.
That sounds like you know, I don't doubt it, and I'll tell you why I don't doubt it.
And and maybe this is different from this guy's Scott Peterson, who d was that was his job.
He was on duty, he was at the school.
I I I can't fathom why he stayed outside during the whole incident.
Well, m Mr. Just like any company, you have guys that do a hundred percent, and you have people that do ten percent, and the men and women that I worked with, and I there's eight thousand people in this department, but the men and women that I worked with, they all gave a hundred percent.
But like I said, I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
But I gotta be honest, I uh I when it comes to cops, first responders, FBI, firemen, all these guys that I know, they're they're all ninety-nine point nine percent.
They're all going in.
There's not one that's not.
That's that's what makes this such an anomaly because I've never seen this before.
It just it makes no sense.
So your theory that there was protocol is the only thing that makes sense because everybody that decides to become a cop or or an FBI guy or Secret Service, everybody they do you you've got to be called to do that job, or you're not gonna make it very long.
There's gotta be a calling.
And then you go through your training, and then after your training, mentally, you're always imagining how you're gonna react to this situation, that situation, and you're just prepared.
It's almost like there's no thinking involved.
You know, what makes a really great athlete uh is is those that can literally put all stress out of their mind and we call it getting in the zone, no think at all, and they just do what they're trained to do, whatever their athletic ability happens to be.
It's the same thing.
You know, if you're if you're a golfer and you're lost in your head, well, I gotta put my golf club down, I've got to swing back this far, I gotta twist my body.
You know, you get into those contortions rather than just getting up to the ball, knowing and having the confidence that you train to hit it and doing it, like you've done on the range 50 million times before, you know, if you're not thinking, you then you you're in a better place.
That's the same with police work, the same with you know, trauma surgeons, the same with anybody.
Um it just the only thing the only explanation that makes sense, BZ is yours.
That they were told not to go in.
This department, Michael Man uses everything.
And I'm telling you what, sometimes the guys they're afraid to step forward because of this lieutenant or that captain or whatever.
And and I was in that situation many times when I worked for him.
Of course.
So uh I I just want to kind of you know, let you know and this is not a reflection.
I I don't want to be very clear about this on police officers, law enforcement, first responders, you know, EMT guys wanted to go in, and they were told no.
It's crazy.
It's I've never heard anything like it.
Um anyway, BZ, thank you for what you've done.
800 941 Sean is the toll-free telephone number.
Sean, we just want to make a quick announcement because we're getting bombarded with phone calls, and we just want to say we know that the Coral Springs Police Department was.
What did I say, Coral Gables?
Yeah, so we know it's Coral Springs, America, and we thank you so much for it right yesterday.
For letting us know, and and occasionally we we mix up the gables and the springs, but we realize it's very important to our Florida listeners, and we understand, so we know it's Coral Springs.
By the way, I hate You don't need to call us anymore.
Thank you so much.
In a way, I resent the hell out of everybody in Florida because they're living in great weather, and we're living up here in freezing cold, you know, New York, and apparently Joe Bastardi's telling me we're getting six to nine inches this weekend.
That's what I heard.
Where is that that would be it's not in Coral Gables or Coral Springs?
That's good.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
Yeah, but that's the point.
I re and they don't pay any state income taxes because we're stupid and we stay here and we do pay.
But we want to thank the Coral Springs Police Department.
No, they were amazing.
They were amazing.
Okay, I've said it ten times.
We're not misattributing.
No, no, no.
And I when I when that sheriff released that press release, I'm like, okay, there's something going on here.
Uh all right, back to the phones.
Uh Jim is in North Carolina.
Jim, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
Keep up the good work and the good fight.
Hey, um noticing that sheriff at the CNN town hall, I was trying to rack my brain going, you know, when have I ever seen this before of a sheriff acting the way that he did.
And let me tell you something.
Well, by the way, one important point.
We know now, he knew that his sheriff stayed outside the entire Time and was there from the get-go.
He knew, but he didn't say it.
We can if we can get a community organizer in the White House, then we can have a community organizer with a badge.
And that's what that man is.
Period.
I'll tell you the statements that he's made.
I have listen, I I'm friends with so many different people in law enforcement.
I can I got it.
I know so many people on every level.
I've never heard of a police sheriff that had his picture literally put on at least five of the police cars.
You know, I got a friend of mine, a sheriff down in Lee County, uh, you know, Sheriff Scott down there, who's a great guy.
I'm actually an honorary deputy in the county.
And I just gotten to know the guy, support his team.
They've got my him him and his buddy Carmine, all these guys.
I haven't talked to them about it yet, but I am sure they're aghast.
Remember the last hurricane that was down there.
I mean, these guys were calling me.
They were out in the middle of the hurricane, making sure everybody's safe, and this was a category five straight hit right at Naples, Florida.
And you know, when you're in a category five and you're out in the wind and the rain, and the same with reporters that you know report for the Fox News Channel.
At any moment, uh stop sign or a poll may be coming right down on your head.
It's it's dangerous, but they know the danger, and they do it anyway, which is the definition of courage.
And this was the moment that these cops train the most for.
I tell everybody and my team in there makes fun of me, but I I train five days a week now.
Nobody makes fun of you.
Oh, Jason does.
Absolutely, he does.
Jason makes fun of me all the time about this.
I mean maybe a little he does.
No, no, not see.
No, but I train five days a week, and you guys are you're the silly ninja.
It's not ninja.
It's mixed martial arts, it's uh an eclectic blend of arts, uh, Krav Maga, Kenpo, Jiu-Jitsu.
Um we do stick blade and firearm training.
We do boxing and and grappling and everything in between.
And being trained, I'm trained for pretty much any situation, and that's what I do.
I train for that.
You know, where he will put obviously not a real gun to my forehead, a little plastic yellow one, and uh put it right on my forehead, right on my chest, right at my back, and we practice over and over and over again how to deal with it.
And the same thing about it's hard to disarm somebody with a blade.
But we practice that also.
And we other practice all the other self-defense efforts that you might need in a in a pinch.
But I know everybody that I know in law enforcement in particular, first responders, firemen, EMT, they run towards trouble.
They don't run away from trouble.
What do you go ahead?
Just get it out, whatever you want to say.
I don't know why you're getting all sensitive.
You're a tough guy.
Bask in it.
Why do you care what I think?
Why do you make fun of it for years?
Because I enjoy watching you suffer sometimes.
So I'm sorry.
It's just a lot of people.
Well, the thing is if you ever threw a punch at me, you'd be the one suffering.
Oh, here we go.
The six seconds thing.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder why I make fun of you then.
Jeez.
Oh, yeah, like I'm really gonna lift a finger to Jason.
Maybe Jason can train with your sensei.
Listen, if he wants to come out, we'll videotape it, we'll put it up on our website.
Maybe we'll do a Facebook live of Jason Huffin and Puffin and get your kind of abs.
It's yeah, well, you want to do 150 sit-ups and 150 push-ups in the session because that's what we do.
Can you do that?
Oh my god.
Do you serve like Twinkies in between the sessions?
I can't get the sessions.
You can't go for that.
I don't think you you probably couldn't survive 15, 20 minutes.
And we it's an hour and 15 minutes.
I'm sure I couldn't.
I stopped doing crunches three, four years ago.
I couldn't deal with them.
I used to do a hundred of them before I got up in the morning.
None of us are surprised at that statement.
Hey, first the body shaming the cat.
I didn't not body shaming.
He said, I haven't done them in four years, and I said we're not surprised to hear you say that.
We isn't you aren't surprised.
No, nobody else was saying it.
You said it.
I said it, but everybody else is thinking it.
Oh, your day's coming.
Okay.
You threw down.
What are you gonna now?
You're gonna go back in the gym for all of 10 minutes.
I love everybody, you know, New Year's E New Year's resolution.
They all get these gym memberships, and they show up for the first week.
They're there every day, every other day, and then the next week they miss two of the days, and then the week after they miss all but they only get to go one day, and then the gym membership's over.
They never go back again.
True or false.
You you're gonna start Mr. Big Time.
I I've slowed down the bench pressing a lot.
I was doing it since 2003.
I could bench press 30.
Okay, you slowed it down.
You don't do it at all.
What are you talking?
Why are you lying to the audience?
Don't lie to the audience.
You don't do it.
Wow, you are really you're really attacking me.
I really got under your skin, I guess.
When's the last time you did a bench press of 230?
How many years ago?
How many years ago?
Like I did it a couple of weeks ago.
You did your absolutely lying.
I will not lie.
I will give you 500 bucks.
If you go into a gym tonight, you bench 230 one time up and down, you're gonna get 500 bucks.
I have the weights of my house.
Okay, take a picture of you doing 230 one time up and down.
You can do it more than one time, okay.
How many times can you do it?
Uh I had been doing it about 15, 15 reps.
All right, I'll tell you what.
You do it ten times, I'll give you five hundred bucks, video tape it, we'll put it on the website tomorrow.
All righty then.
All right, so we'll have that video.
Anyone want to take bets he can't do it ten times?
Anyway, what is it?
What are the parameters here though?
Are we talking about like good form?
What are we talking about?
If he takes it down, I assume you just have an old style bench, right?
Yeah.
You got it, and you're laying Yeah, I'm laying flat on my back.
So you have to take two thirty, bring it down to your chest and up ten times.
Yes.
I think he can do it.
All right, let's see.
Well scraped.
What do you think, Ethan?
I think you could do it.
All right, good.
We'll have the video up tomorrow.
You'll be 500 richer tomorrow, and I'll be happy to give you the money.
Happy.
No, you won't.
Well, what video are you gonna put up?
I'm putting it well, I put videos of me up uh of doing ninja.
And uh, you know, uh listen, if you want to see me doing ninja, Google me and Chuck Liddell.
That was from a couple of years ago.
We've gotten a lot better since then.
All right, back to our phones.
Uh Larry in Davy, Florida.
How are you, Larry?
What's uh what's up, what's going on?
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
Retired officer from Briar County.
And I contend that they were doing what they were trained to do.
Um the Browers Sheriff's Office is a huge agency, okay?
And what they do is all the fresh meat that comes out of the academy goes to the rough section like Fort Lauderdale and Pompano Beach, and then the older folks get retired and put out to pasture in Weston and Parkland where there's no crime.
So back in the day in the academy, we were trained when you're responding to a shooter in a building, you get there, you take up a position, and you wait for backup.
And now the current active shooter training is because active shooters now happens within two to four minutes.
You have to rush right in.
So perhaps they didn't have current training because of their ages, and they were just out there waiting to retire.
The only thing that makes sense is that their training was as you said.
That's the only because I don't know cops that would do this.
I don't know any.
That's the point.
And you know, maybe the one guy, okay, that's the anomaly, not four.
Four tells me that it was some type of protocol.
Uh Paul, real quick in Missouri.
Hey, Paul, how are you?
I'm fine, Sean.
Thanks for thanking my call.
I enjoy your show.
Uh Sean, well, I live in uh uh central Missouri.
We're in a small town, but our schools are locked down.
Um fact, and all of the county.
They are locked down, and the only way you can get into our schools is you have to push the intercom, identify yourself, and then inside the school, we do have uh teachers, uh faculties that uh do carry.
We also have what we call uh uh grandparent day and uh a daddy's day, and most of the dads that go to the to their kids, uh some of them are off duty officers, and of course they're carrying.
And the biggest thing that I could think of, one of the big things the schools could Do is go to the lockdown and the intercom system.
You have to identify yourself.
If you have anything you're carrying, you have to leave it out of the way.
I think it we can't count on people to identify it though.
Look, uh I think it's simple.
Secure the perimeter, you gotta have a full threat assessment.
There's got to be concealed carry, retired military police in every floor of every building.
And that that you have it's immediately whatever it is that happens contained and metal detectors, and IDs.
And I think you ha I think you solved the problem.
You know, people don't want solutions, I guess.
All right, let's get to some of the other news when we get back.
We've got the arrogance of Hillary Clinton.
What are the Pfizer court judges?
What do they think about being lied to and being told and fed phony information and not told it's political?
We'll get to that.
Also, we'll check in with the Florida House of Representative speaker and former MYPD Commissioner Bernie Carrig, all coming up.
Director Comey or a good lawyer.
Can you make out a great case that President Obama wiretapped Mr. Trump's phones just part of the election in light of the fact you have said there's no evidence of that?
All I can say is what I said before that we don't have any information that supports those tweets.
Did you seek the names of people involved in to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the Trump campaign, people uh surrounding the pre the present elect.
Let me begin in order to spy on them.
In expose them.
Absolutely not for any political purposes to spy expose anything.
But let me speak the name of Mike Flynn.
I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would.
But let me explain uh this.
First of all, Andrea, to talk about the contents of a classified report, to talk about the individuals on the foreign side who were the targets of the uh the report itself, or any Americans who may have been collected upon incidentally, is to disclose classified information.
I'm not going to do that.
And those people who are putting these stories out are doing just that.
I can't describe any particular report I saw, and by the way, I have no idea what reports are allegedly uh are being described by those who are putting out this story.
I don't know what time frame they were from, I don't know the subject matter, and I don't know who uh they think was collected upon.
The allegation is that in one case they are alleging in the Daily Caller that there was a spreadsheet that you put out of all of these names.
Absolutely free.
And circulated.
No spreadsheet, nothing of the sort.
All right, there you have James Comey admitting that uh he won't comment about Pfizer, but we do know that in January 2017 he did say, oh, the dossier is salacious, but it is not verified.
The opposite of what they said three months earlier when they made their application of the Pfizer court, used the bought and paid for dossier, didn't tell the Pfizer court judge anything, and of course Susan Rice on what she has been saying from the very beginning, admitting the unmasking aspects of Americans, which we still need to get to the bottom of.
Here is a fascinating question that nobody is digging deep into.
Now that we know Pfizer court judges, there were four of them because you had the original application, and then you had the three subsequent renewals that took place.
Who were these Pfizer judges that approved the dossier warrant?
The people that were lied to, the people that were given incomplete information on purpose.
You know, the people that only got a footnote that it said, well, it may be political in nature.
You know, who are the people who who are these people?
Now we're beginning to know because there's been a lot of spec speculation regarding all of this.
Remember in the case of Michael Flynn, uh that you had a DC Federal District Court judge in that particular case that literally recused himself, Rudolph Contreras is his name, and he was recused from the Flynn case because he also sits on the Pfizer court, and one theory had been that in fact the judge in this case might have approved one or more of the Pfizer surveillance applications.
But now we have some emails.
One is to Congressman Bob Goodlat of the he's the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, the other one to Devin Nunes, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and the letter, both of these letters are from a judge, Rosemary Collin is her name.
And she writes them.
I'll read one of them.
I write in response to your letter dated in the case of Goodlat, uh January 16, 2018.
In the case of Nuness, February 7th, 2018, and the request that the foreign surveillance uh foreign intelligence surveillance court confirm whether transcripts or of relevant uh Pfizer hearings associated with matters described in the letter exist and if so, provide copies to the committee.
As you know, any such transcripts would be classified.
It may also be helpful for me to observe that in a typical process of considering an application, we make no systemic record of questions that we ask or responses that the government gives.
The court appreciates the interest, etcetera, uh that the varying committees have in terms of its operations and public confidence they are in.
And as we have discussed with your staff, notwithstanding the existence of Rule 62 C2, the court has never previously received a request from Congress for the contents of any specific FISA application or order, nor is the court provided any to Congress.
Thus your request and others I have received from Congress present novel and significant questions.
Notice what she said here.
Novel and significant questions.
Now that to me is an interesting response.
The considerations involve not only prerogatives of the legislative branch, but also the interest of the executive branch, including its responsibility for national security and its need to maintain the integrity of any ongoing law enforcement investigations.
Thank you for your courtesy, copying me on your blank date letter to the Department of Justice and FBI, which you made request information similar to the letter to us.
Those agencies possess most, if not all, the responsive materials the court might possess, and we have previously made clear that to the department, both formally and informally, we don't object to any decision by the executive branch to release any such FISA materials to Congress.
Okay.
I expect that their handling of your request will inform the court as to how the executive branch perceives its interest and will assist us in our consideration of the full range of issues.
Therefore, we ask the Department of Justice to keep us informed regarding this particular letter.
Now, I read this as that this judge is pissed.
Now, Hannity, why do you say the judge is pissed?
Because the judge is saying this is interesting.
You know, these pr this presents a novel and significant question, and that they would conform to whatever the executive branch tried to do here.
Anyway, David Schoen is an attorney, and uh we welcome him back to the uh program.
He's actually involved in this case in a numerous different ways.
Sarah Carter, Fox News contributor, investigative reporter.
Uh David, uh let me begin with you.
David, you have uh you have read these letters.
Do you suspect that what I'm suspecting is accurate that the judges have to be pissed?
These judges were lied to, systematically lied to four separate occasions.
Yes, I do, Mr. Hannity.
I'll tell you this.
Judge Collier is a no-nonsense judge.
And uh she makes very clear here, I I think it's an institutional uh uh anger or frustration.
That is um you're presenting us with new questions here.
Uh the Justice Department has all of the information at its hand.
It's for them uh to deter uh to turn over this information to you as a matter of first course, rather than having the court be put in that position, which does really raise the separation of powers question, as she suggests.
But you know, I have to digress for one second.
Following today's stories, look at how we've come full circle.
Today we have Secretary Clinton openly criticizing the administration for not doing enough with the uh Russia uh protecting against Russian intrusions and that sort of thing.
Is this now sort of a campaign of covering every base?
That is, we didn't do anything wrong with the surveillance uh uh efforts, um, which we now know you know a good bit about and need to know a lot more about.
But now it's that uh not only didn't we do anything wrong then, but now you're doing nothing to protect against the things that we failed to protect against.
It's almost laughable if it weren't such a serious subject.
I I know, but let me go back into this FISA judge and these letters that she sent to both Goodlack and Nuness, and they're identical.
I want to know do you interpret this that this judge is saying, yeah, this is novel and this is new, and there are significant questions.
Is that the judge kind of acknowledging that she's following in her particular case, current events and new disclosures, and that she has figured out pretty quickly that she's been manipulated and lied to?
I think so.
To some degree, it's a remarkable letter.
Listen, you know, the way the court operates, as you know, is there's a duty judge assigned in Washington every week.
One of the eleven judges is assigned to it.
There are certain matters that the duty judge handles him or herself, and there are other matters that have to be taken up with the court.
When the duty judge handles the matters by herself or himself, uh they have the assistance of the attorneys who are signed to the court and the clerks, uh to now put this judge in a position of determining first of all, you know, the first question is whether there were transcripts taken, and she sort of answers that by saying, as a matter of course, we don't usually keep transcripts, but the other is if there are transcripts, disclose them.
She says, then as you pointed out, um uh the they would be classified.
But I think one of the keys is what you focused on at the end.
When she says at the end, we have previously made clear to the department, both formally and informally, that we do not object to any decision by the executive branch to convey to Congress any such information.
That's remarkable.
Well, then we get Sarah Carter into the whole conversation that went on earlier today between the president on Twitter going after Jeff Sessions and saying, uh, hello, it's not the IDG's job.
He doesn't have jurisdiction to legally go after the Pfizer abuses, but you do.
And then Jeff Sessions responding that we have initiated the appropriate process to ensure that the complaints against the department will be fully and fairly acted upon if necessary, and and pushing back on his on his end.
Well, yes, and I think uh want to go back to that because it's very important.
I mean, what Horowitz can do is that he can investigate this, but look how long the investigation has already taken into the use of a private uh server and email system by Hillary Clinton.
I mean, this has been a year-long process.
We're expecting Horowitz's report on the FBI's handling of that to be coming out this March, but it probably might be extended until April.
So we could be looking at another year, and I think what the president is saying is this is very serious allegations of abuse uh by the FBI with the fifth court.
Uh it's a violation of Fourth Amendment rights.
If those if it's proven true that they did violate the court and how they presented the evidence to the court, and so it's gonna go nowhere.
So his frustration, obviously on Twitter, is that here you are, you're the AG.
Can't you put a prosecutor in front of this?
And I think it's really interesting, Sean, because we're seeing them battle publicly.
You know, uh, you would think that he would just pick up the phone and call attorney uh General Jeff Sessions and talk to him about this.
But he obviously there is a great wall there, a great divide between the two.
He's extraordinarily frustrated with the attorney general and feel that feels that the attorney general isn't taking action on this the way he needs to be, and he's calling him out on it.
And I think the American people should be very concerned, because without this moving forward, without an active investigation into this, I think people are really concerned.
I know people within the intelligence community are, and I've been speaking to them this week, that this will be buried and swept under the rug, that there will not be justice in this, and that they will not be able to fix the problems that have like sprung out over the last eight years, particularly with the FBI and the seventh floor and other people within the intelligence community that may have been weaponizing what is considered a very significant tool in our system to tackle foreign threats and terrorism.
Instead, as someone told me today, it would be used against us.
And that is something that is totally unacceptable.
If these judges um believe that they've been lied to and they were lied to, I've got to believe that they are fuming.
And the question is what options do they have from this point and what does the what are these letters telegraph to us?
We'll get to that more with David Schoen, more with uh Sarah Carter.
That's coming up in mere moments eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Also we have Bernie Kerrick is going to check in with us.
He thinks the Sheriff Israel down in Broward County needs to go and he'll explain why.
As we continue with uh David Shone and Sarah Carter, uh fascinating uh exchange between Bob Goodlatt and Devin Nunes with one of the Pfizer Court judges and the Pfizer court judges saying, Yeah, this is a novel and uh the novel and significant questions you are raising, and then gets into the issue of what the executive branch can do, and you know, if the executive branch perceives its interest will assist us in our consideration of the full range of issues.
We have asked the Department of Justice to keep us informed, which tells me that this particular Pfizer court judge wants this information out yesterday because this Pfizer Court judge, like the other three, were lied to.
So what uh what is the recourse now for the judges?
Wouldn't they have the ability to bring these people back into their courtroom and say, why didn't you tell us that you knew Hillary bought and paid for this?
Why didn't you tell us you didn't verify this?
Absolutely.
Look, each each member of the Justice Department who's appeared before this court is considered an officer of the court.
They are subject at all times to being directed by the court to come in.
And uh let me say this.
I mean, without commenting on it politically from a political point of view, the fact of the matter is uh this re most recent memo that we saw uh from the Democrats that split pairs between whether Chris Percy was authorized uh have payment made or payment was actually made, um, is really quite irrelevant.
Um sure we would like to know whether payment was made or not, or anyone interested in this would like to know.
But the court uh for the representation made to the court must be completely accurate.
All right, cannot be misleading.
Sarah, give you the last word.
They need to be completely forthright with the courts.
It appeared that they were not.
The judge asks a very important question, and and in the letter to both Good Light and Nunez.
And Sean, I you know, stress again what she said is that the Department of Justice has these documents.
They are able to turn these documents over to the congressional committees.
And she made that very, very clear in her letter.
And so far, as far as I know, I've spoken to sources.
They have not, and that is the big problem.
And now the court has to review the request, and it is going to take the court quite some time to review this request because they've never been asked this before.
All right.
Uh, we're going to continue this on Hannity tonight, and of course, the the battle between the president and the attorney general's office and the president's uh Twitter account and attorney general sessions response, and we'll cover what this judge is saying in this letter to Good Lad in Nuness.
That's nine Eastern tonight on Hannity, Fox News Channel.
When we come back, we'll hit the phones.
800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number, and we'll also take in to check in with Bernie Kerrick who's going to join us and Richard Corcoran, who is the Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives.
That's all coming up in our news roundup hour.
All right, glad you're with us.
25 till the top of the hour.
Um, so there was the first service.
I know the funeral is going to be on Friday.
Um if you'll indulge me for a few minutes on the issue of the Reverend Billy Graham.
I had one of the last interviews with him.
I was in awe of what he did as he packed stadiums and um and Madison Square Garden and millions of people in every part of the globe.
This man went out and preached the gospel and fought passionately for for people to get to their their higher selves in life.
And he just had a profound impact on me.
And uh the last time that he publicly went out in New York was uh a pretty amazing experience, and I was there to cover for the Fox News channel.
And his funeral will be on Friday.
I was invited to the funeral, and I was very honored.
I'm a good friend of Franklin Graham, and I I just never know with my schedule and news whether I could ever get away.
And if I committed to go down, and last minute I have to pull out, it would have been a p a slot for somebody else that I know would definitely be going.
So I I had to I had to send my regrets that I I wouldn't be able to commit to it.
Um anyway, so they had a service today and and Mitch McConnell and uh Paul Ryan and the president, but the president's indulge me here because the president I thought captured who this man was.
And when we get back on the other side of this, we'll take your calls.
But I want to play a few minutes of the president at Billy Graham's service today.
In the spring of 1934, Billy Graham's father allowed a group of Charlotte businessmen to use a portion of the family's dairy farm to gather for a day of prayer.
On that day, the men prayed for the city.
They prayed that out of Charlotte, the Lord would raise up someone to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth.
We are here today, more than eight years later, because that prayer was truly answered.
Billy Graham was fifteen years old at the time.
Just a few months later, he accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
That choice didn't just change Billy's life, it changed our lives.
It changed our country, and it changed, in fact, the entire world.
The North Carolina farm boy walked out of those fields into a great and beautiful history.
Starting at a small Bible school in Florida, he soon led a nationwide revival from a large tent in Los Angeles to 100,000 people in a single day at Yankee Stadium to more than two million people at Madison Square Garden over 16 weeks in 1957.
And I remember that because my father said to me, Come on, son, and by the way, he said, Come on, mom, let's go see Billy Graham at Yankee Stadium.
And it was something very special.
But Americans came in droves to hear that great young preacher, Fred Trump was a big fan.
Fred Trump was my father.
In London, Tokyo, Seoul, Bogota, Moscow, New Delhi, Saigon, Johannesburg, and scores of other places, all over the world, Reverend Graham shared the power of God's word with more than 200 million people in person and countless others through television and radio where people loved to watch and listen.
In 1978, with the support of the Catholic bishop who would soon become Pope John Paul II, Reverend Graham went to Poland and spoke of the meaning of the cross to a people suffering under the soulless oppression of communism.
Billy Graham carried his message around the world, but his heart, as Franklin will tell you, was always in America.
He took his message to the poorest places, to the downtrodden and to the brokenhearted, to inmates in prison and to the overlooked and the neglected.
He felt a great passion for those that were neglected.
Everywhere he went, Reverend Graham delivered the same beautiful message.
God loves you.
That was his message.
God loves you.
We can only imagine the number of lives touched by the preaching and the prayers of Billy Graham, the hearts he changed, the sorrows he eased, and the joy he brought to so many.
Today we give thanks for this extraordinary life, and it's very fitting that we do so right here in the rotunda of the United States Capitol, where the memory of the American people is enshrined.
Here in this room, we are reminded that America is a nation sustained by prayer.
The painting to my left is of the pilgrims as they embarked for America, holding fast to the Bible, and bowing their heads in prayer.
Along these walls, we see the faces of Americans who prayed as they stood on the Lexington Green, who prayed as they headed west, prayed as they headed into battle, and prayed as they marched for justice, and always marched for victory.
Around us stand the statues of heroes who led the nation in prayer during the great and difficult times.
From Washington to Lincoln to Eisenhower to King.
And today, in the center of this great chamber lies, legendary Billy Graham.
An ambassador for Christ who reminded the world of the power of prayer and the gift of God's grace.
Today we honor him as only three private citizens before him have been so honored.
And like the faithful of Charlotte.
Once did today we say a prayer for our country.
That all across this land, the Lord will raise up men and women like Billy Graham to spread a message of love and hope to every precious child of God.
Thank you.
God bless you.
And God bless America.
Thank you very much.
All right, 800 941 Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
There's a guy that's gonna be missed.
You know, people make fun of Mike Pence and remember the comments that Joy Behar made about him and his faith and his Christianity, and it's unbelievable what people say.
You know, here's a guy, you know, in in this day and age, the Me Too movement, never again, all the stuff.
Here's a guy that wouldn't get in an elevator with a woman alone ever.
Because he he never wanted to be the subject of any type of rumor innuendo, which goes on everywhere, uh, nor did he want to subject himself to any type of temptation of any kind, and he was that committed to his bride of many, many years.
He was ninety-nine years old.
Uh, you know, welcome home, good and faithful servant.
There's the guy that gets into heaven.
Not me.
Not Linda either, by the way.
Uh, just for the record.
Speak for yourself.
Uh, you're going to heaven for sure.
I mean, I think that uh Jesus and I could have a lot of good laughs about this world.
A lot of good laughs about this world.
Absolutely.
And you're gonna talk first of all, Jesus.
Let me ask you about my cat.
Why do you think that's a good one?
I say my prayers every night, and Jesus sees me in my New York accent.
Oh, I know, and then that's why he came to Earth.
The whole story of Jesus is he sacrificed himself as a he he took the sins of the world upon himself.
And he suffered, was beaten, humiliated, died on a cross, and what were the last words he said?
Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do.
And I'm not that good.
I wouldn't be on I I think you're pretty forgiving, actually.
It's actually pretty annoying most of the time.
Yeah, you don't like it because you actually have a better memory than mine, so my memory serves me to not repeat the same mistakes, and then you're like, ah, I don't even remember what that guy did anymore.
It's totally fine.
No, it's actually not.
Well, you were could talk about their contempt list.
Yeah, right.
No, a contempt list and a hate list of the same thing, which you're gonna help me toss the tables.
No, tossing the tables in you know, in the temple.
Right.
There was not supposed to be commerce in his father's house.
It was supposed to be a house of worship, and that is righteous indignation, which is very different than anger.
I don't I just want to toss the table.
Can I just toss the table?
You in the church, you want to toss the table?
I'm gonna toss the table.
Well, you're not Jesus, so first of all, you don't have the right to cross.
When I get to heaven.
When you get to heaven, you're gonna toss over a table when you're in paradise.
You know, it says, you know, let not your heart be troubled, and the verse goes on, in my father's house are many mansions, and I go to prepare a place for you.
You lost me in Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled.
Oh, good grief.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Shannon is in Michigan next Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Shannon, how are you?
Great, how are you, Sean?
I'm good.
What's happening?
Thank you for speaking with me.
I uh I'm a school teacher in Michigan, and I am very tired of legislators, my union, other teachers speaking for me.
Um I've held a CPL for eleven years.
I'm an avid hunter for over twenty years, and I would love the opportunity to be able to protect my students in my classroom.
They deserve that.
My students deserve that.
I deserve that.
Um every morning I have to walk into my building and look at the sign on the wall that says country zone, and it's just like a target on all of our backs.
Absolutely.
Look at all the incidents that take place in gun free zones.
I'm not focused on the teacher carry aspect.
Um for a couple of reasons.
Number one, I think teachers, if they want to do it, absolutely, people like you that are are trained and understand the nature of a firearm or are professional in this its use, etc.
That's fine with me, but I've always thought that, okay, for those teachers that might be uncomfortable, I have no problem with that.
Their job is to teach, but we should have full security assessments, threat assessments.
We should have the perimeter covered.
You should have no entry point of anybody that doesn't belong in the school.
You need an ID system.
Uh you definitely need metal detectors, and then you need enough concealed carry, retired military and police on every floor of every school that they're right there.
If something happens, it's contained to that one area.
One one hall or one room.
That's it.
Yep, and my school has all of that except for the metal detectors and anyone, you know, carrying other than a police officer that would come into the building for other reasons.
So you know, we have a very, very um up-to-date system, and we receive uh training, updated training every single year um with a crisis management officer for the entire county where we're at.
Listen, you're not gonna protect against an armed shooter with a with a slingshot.
You're just not.
Um, as well trained as I am in the in mixed martial arts, and you know, I'm not gonna be able to fight back at any distance with anybody with a gun.
I'm a dead duck.
They got me.
There's nothing you can do.
That's what was so amazing in the Steve Scalise shooting, you know, when those cops literally going up against a rifle in an open field.
I never saw such bravery.
And they saved the day.
It was amazing.
All right, as we continue, 800 941.
Sean Tollfree telephone number.
Let's get back to the phones.
Shelley is in Colorado next.
Sean Hannity show.
What's up, Shelley?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Hey, I gotta say I have to agree with Ethan yesterday.
I thought you said one armed deputy, and I thought the same thing as Ethan, and so oh my god, I was laughing so hard, and I was so happy that somebody else thought the same thing I didn't tell for.
I said there was only one armed deputy.
I know.
You know, I didn't mean one armed deputy, only on one.
There was only one deputy on duty that was armed in a school that had thirty two hundred kids.
Absolutely.
You know, you can't I can't win as a talk show host.
It was awesome, though.
I needed a laugh.
Hey, um I lost a loved one to the Aurora Theater shooting.
It was my son's best friend, Alex Sullivan.
And after that shooting, we all gathered at the makeshift and create created the makeshift memorial across the street from the theater.
And as soon as we showed up, there was mainstream media there.
They were just on us like vultures.
We had no time to to mourn, no time to converse with others who had lost loved ones as well or who are who are survivors.
And our privacy was invaded.
Um, and it was also every town, every town was there in full force.
But um I did speak to some of the media and they did take down some of my quotes, but nothing that I stated um when I expressed that I was still a strong supporter of the second amendment, and I was an NRA member, made it into print or online or in the any of the interviews.
And then after you know, over time I was still there, and they didn't even want to talk to me anymore.
They were cherry picking people who were calling for more gun control laws.
And so, yeah, I just gotta say, when I when I saw that happening over in Florida, um I was like, here we go again.
Absolutely, here we go again.
You know what the problem is we're not learning.
We're not learning from these experiences.
And I am a strong believer that if we decide that every school in America is gonna get the proper threat assessment, security, they we're gonna protect the kids.
And it we're uh at the very minimum.
I I honestly think we can create a foolproof system.
I believe that strongly in the ability of military and police and and trained individuals that would know exactly how to secure any school in the country.
And we are we gonna say that money is the reason we can't afford to have concealed carry, retired police and military there?
Uh that's not an excuse for me.
All right, thank you for a good call, Shelley, and I appreciate it.
One armed police officer, meaning there was only one with a concealed carry permit.
Quick break, right back, we'll continue.
We're not going to disclose the video at this time, and we may never disclose the video, depending on the prosecution and the criminal case.
Well, what I saw Was a deputy arrive at the west side of building twelve, take up a position, and he never went in.
When did you find out that Deputy Peterson had not gone into the building?
How soon after the shooting did you know that uh not for days?
Uh we uh investigators looked.
I'm not sure.
Because you spent much of the Wednesday night town hall on CNN with the entire Stoneman Douglas community, students and teachers and parents attacking the NRA, saying that police need more powers, more money to prevent future tragedies.
You didn't disclose any of this to the crowd then, the Stoneman Douglas high school community.
Did you know it then?
Did you know it Wednesday night?
It was spoken about during that uh earlier during that day.
I'm not on a timeline for TV or any news show.
We need to get it right.
We need to get it accurate.
We're talking about people's lives.
We're talking about a community.
Uh we need to corroborate, we need to verify.
And once we did the next day, and I would I looked at the tape and I was 100% certain that it happened the way uh I was told about the investigators initially told me told about.
Now we know as many as four deputies never went in, including the one that was on site when the shooting began that was armed, concealed carry, and even had a bulletproof vest.
And there's Sheriff Scott Israel saying that, yeah, the deputy never went in.
Now the EMTs also were not allowed in.
And Sheriff Israel saying, you know, well, I haven't looked at the video.
That wasn't my job.
It's not my fault when my deputies fail.
Uh I've given amazing leadership as the Broward Sheriff.
Uh then the saying the promise program, I'll explain that in a minute, wasn't responsible, and here we are.
I mean, I it just takes my breath away.
Now, former New York City police commissioner, he was the commissioner during 9-11.
Bernie Kerrick, you know, feels the way I do.
He said it's outrageous about these reports.
I've never heard anything like this before.
And these deputies are constitutionally bound to engage the shooter and protect the students, and he has called on the Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel to step down following all these revelations and all these reports.
Then you have the House Speaker of Florida, Richard Corcoran, you know, said the Obama era, no arrest policy may have shielded the Florida shooter.
Remember, there were 39 visits to this guy's house in seven years.
39.
Maybe maybe we should have just had set up a coffee shop in there for crying out loud.
How many times do you have to be warned about one particular person?
We had two FBI very specific warnings.
One, you know, of a posting of this guy, you know, that g goes out there, Nicholas Cruz saying that, well, I want to be a professional school shooter.
Who would ever post that on social media?
Another one, a woman calling in, giving a tip, he's gonna go sh shoot up a school, and that nobody ever went to check it out.
How did we have so many of these failures happen?
Anyway, joining us now, the two people I just mentioned, and that's the speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Richard Corcoran, and also former MYPD commissioner, who's on the job on 9-11, 2001, Bernie Kerrig.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
And uh Bernie, I I you know, I know cops.
My whole family was cops.
You know, my my mother worked in corrections, my father worked in family corps probation.
Uh I had so many cousins that were NYPD.
I almost became MYPD, as did you know so many other people in my family in the FBI.
I've never heard of a single incident where one person wouldn't engage in a situation like this, never mind four, and never mind telling EMTs they can't go in and help the people that are injured.
I I gotta be honest, Sean.
I I've never heard anything like it.
I have um, you know, I commanded 55,000 people in the NYPD.
Um, 41,000 uniforms, and I have to tell you, I've never in my career, in my 30-year career, heard of anything like this.
The the men and women that work for me and cops all around this country, they would be dying to get into that building to engage the shooter.
So I have no conception of what these guys were doing.
This is what what they trained for.
This is what this is why they get they commit to serve their communities.
They know that these moments may come and they're ready for them.
And they're supposed to be ready.
And the sheriff is responsible.
He's responsible for their training, for Their resources for their actions.
He's responsible for what they do and don't do.
And for him to stay sit on national television on CNN and say, I bear no responsibility for what they didn't do is absolutely outright.
It's ludicrous, really.
I I've never heard anything like that before.
I never and I did I'm doing a great job.
I'll pat myself on the back.
You know, I I go back to 9-11 2001, and and this is why we call them heroes.
Because you were the you're the police commissioner, and when the second building came down, well, you were about a block away with the mayor, Rudy Giuliani, and and you you took cover in a in a local store, and it took a while for you to even get out of there because of all the smoke and dust and and everything that had come out of that build those buildings.
Your guys were going in one direction while all the people that worked in the building were going in another.
And they knew the firemen, the policemen, the first responders, they knew what they were headed into.
They knew that that might be their last day.
Keep in mind when the second building came down, yes, we were there.
When the first when when Tower One imploded, that was the second building to drop.
Men and women had already gone back into one.
Even after the evacuation notices, they still went back into those buildings, knowing the perils inherent.
I worked for one of the best leaders I could imagine in my time, Rudy Giuliani, President Bush, George Pataki, but not once ever have I ever heard one of those guys say, I showed amazing leadership during 9-11.
I I just think it's outrageous listening to this guy.
You know, that's such a that that is a really good point.
I don't think anybody did.
And everybody wishes they could have done more, which is amazing.
Uh let me bring in the Florida Speaker of the House uh down there in Tallahassee, Richard Corcoran.
Um, what about these numerous reports of a stand down order of deputies during the school shooting in Parkland?
No, now we're hearing that too.
Is that uh not only was it a failing on the officers' part to not go in, but now they're claiming that there were stand down orders that could have come from the highest level.
And I think the commissioner's right.
I mean, you for him to say that he had amazing leadership when the only thing amazing about what he's uh exhibited so far is his arrogance.
Uh that's why seventy-four of us, Sean, seventy-four legislators represent almost thirteen million people.
Under the Constitution, uh, the governor can remove somebody and suspend them for incompetence, malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, of which he scores high on all of the above.
And so we sent that letter.
The governor has sent down our f uh uh state law enforcement to take over the investigation.
We know we're uh being misled.
Nobody believes he didn't know for eight days uh that this guy didn't go in.
Uh, and he needs to sta he needs to be suspended and ultimately removed by the Senate.
Did you read Sarah Carter's piece about what some sixty-six investigations going on into this particular sheriff's department?
I couldn't believe it when I read that yesterday.
Well, what's amazing is that by his own admissions, this is this is the chief law enforcement officer, the head of uh safety for the entire county, number one, the box uh the buck stops with him, uh, by his own words.
He investigated the school resource officer who didn't go in.
He is investigating the three outside who didn't go in.
He's investigating that once they did go in, uh, after the shooter was long gone, after they did go in, did they deny access to first responders?
He's investigating the voluntary contract that he entered into with the superintendent, which we call a no arrest policy.
They call it, you know, the fancy words like promise program, uh the no arrest policy that allowed the kid to bring in uh bullets and knives that should have been felonies and he should have been under arrest.
And then they bragged that crime was down in schools by over sixty percent.
So that's the no arrest policy that they had, the guidelines for school discipline.
You're saying that that hindered the ability of authorities to prevent this?
Yes.
He basically said, just in uh you know, uh don't ask, don't tell.
You know, so he basically said, Don't tell me, you know, you guys handle it, and and then they bragged how how many crimes and and uh acts of violence in the schools had plummeted, well that plummeted because in 08 they put in this no arrest policy, and people like this murderer, uh, who would have been arrested numerous times for felonies, including bringing bullets to school, bringing knives to school, uh, was just passed along the system.
By the way, by the way, it also in in one sense, had they done that numerous times, maybe he would have, you know, woken up one morning in a prison cell and said, you know what, I need this, like I need a hole in the head, and and turned around.
And I know that has happened to many people, and and Bernie, I know you know because of the you know, years you ran the correction department.
But let me ask you Bernie Carrick about this.
All of you know, if you're gonna go and visit a family's home thirty-nine times if the kid's thrown out of school the kid can't bring a backpack to the school uh then the FBI was warned specifically about the dangers of this kid you get a screenshot saying I want to be a professional school shooter I mean I this is such a massive spectacular fail epic fail I don't even know I I I can't even explain it away it makes and
everyone wants to talk about guns we we knew.
Honestly Sean there's no explanation there's just so many of these but there's one thing that hasn't been picked up on and I think the speaker and and the governor I think this is something they should look at um they went to this guy's house over a period of time depending on who you talk to between 23 and 45 times let's say there's a law in the state of Florida called the Baker Act.
The Baker Act gives the police, a judge, a mental health authority, and a physician the authority, the constitutional authority by Florida to basically involuntarily commit someone for mental observation for a period of time and take their weapons if they have any.
I find it unfathomable that all the calls that we've heard about, where they went to this
that sheriff's department and nobody took his weapons nobody let me ask you about New York City if you're we're the police commissioner and your guys go to one particular house for one particular individual thirty nine times are you telling me this kid's not going to be put away because I why don't if I jaywalk in New York I'm gonna be put in jail.
I'll be over at Rikers listen forget the 39 times I can tell you right now if you had a weapons carry permit or you had a permit to purchase a gun and possess a gun in New York City and they get one job to your house one and they go there and there's a domestic or there's violence or threats of violence I can promise you just the call just the call somebody will be there from the NYPD to pick up your guns until it's sorted out.
By the way I know that's true.
And and I've had a a pistol carry permit for the city for you know eighteen years.
I know absolutely that's true and that's happened to people and and it's just an allegation it doesn't even have to be proven you're a hundred percent right to be proven just has to be a call they will take the guns until it's figured out as we continue former NYPD commissioner during 911 2001 Bernie Kerrick is with us speaker of the Florida House of Representatives Richard Corcoran and we're talking about this incompetent sheriff Israel down in Broward County and what should happen next.
From the state level Richard what's going to happen?
I mean uh the governor now has taken over the investigation or state officials are and from there is there a review process can he be suspended immediately what do you make all these public comments he's making well it's not my job I did a great job.
Oh I think the governor uh by sending down FDLE he's probably told him expedite this I need answers fast and the second he's comfortable with where they're at I think he'll susp my inclination is he would probably suspend them right away.
Today, we're in session right now, Sean.
We just issued nine subpoenas where he says we're not releasing the videos under the authority of the House.
We sent down subpoenas today.
We want every video, every radio, every document, all incidents relating to this kid.
I think his days are numbered.
There's no question about it.
The question is just how soon is it?
Again, it's unfathomable.
I know there's been a lot of discussion, Bernie, about the FBI and the deep state and the DOJ and...
they didn't inform the Pfizer court now we have all the missed signs down here in Florida I just want to be very clear this is these are not the FBI guys this is not the police people this is not the sheriff people that I know in my life you know the people that I know were with you on 911 you know running up the towers and ultimately giving their lives to save people that's that's those are the police first responders firemen that I know.
Yeah but you know what Sean they're still out there you know you you listen I know plenty of line duty FBI agents and and cops all over this country um I have an enormous amount of respect and admiration for all of them they do a job that nobody would have really has the courage to do um they actually put their lives on the line for people I think the things that we have seen over the last several months um with regard to the FBI and the Pfizer court.
Honestly, that that stuff is at the top of the chain, which the president's gonna have to deal with.
The attorney general's gonna have to deal with.
But the line agents, you know, for the most part, they're the best.
You know, they are the best investigative service in the world in this game.
Were the things missed, yes, but they're gonna have to learn from it.
They're gonna have to fix it, and they're gonna have to get back out there and show people they're credible.
But I've got a I've got a run, but take away their reputation.
I don't want to listen, I don't sweep with a broad brush on this program, and I still maintain the 99.9% are the people that thank God do these jobs that keep us safe and protect us.
So uh Bernie, good to talk to you.
Richard, good luck.
Thank you for being with us, and uh, we appreciate what you're doing down there, and our thoughts and prayers are with everybody.
This this could have been prevented.
That's a sad reality we now know.
All right, when we come back, we're gonna check in with my buddies from the Black Rifle Coffee Company.
What an amazing story.
Great guys, a lot of fun.
You gotta look at some of their videos, they're off the hook, and the left hates them.
You have an alternative to Starbucks.
I'll explain when we get back.
Now till the top of the hour, 800 941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
So we have a new sponsor of the program, and they they happen to come by.
They're in New York today, and I've become really good friends with these guys.
You've heard me talk about Black Rifle Coffee Company, but the story that they have to tell is just phenomenal, and it's amazing.
And I think about all the times of my life that I've had a crappy cup of coffee at a Dunkin' Donuts, or I really don't feel like going into uh liberal land into a Starbucks, knowing that everybody that works there, most likely, and the company management definitely hates everything that I stand for.
You know, simple things like God, faith, family, country, like those things.
Anyway, so the Black Rifle Company, the CEO is a guy by the name of Evan Hafner is with us, and he served his country for 20 years.
He's been uh working in covert operations, special forces, military career, started as an infantryman in the army, graduated of special forces, eventually worked as a CIA contractor from two uh 006 to 2014, and between deployments, he spent all of his free time actually researching coffee trends and studying the art of roasting.
And during his deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, he made it a point to start every day with quality coffee.
And then he started bringing his boutique, small batch roast with him as he went overseas and wired gun trucks so they could grind coffee for him.
And after finishing the military service, he returned home and he decided to start his own business.
And in December 2014, Black Rifle Coffee was born.
And today the company is now seeing annual growth of over 750%, and that's about over one million pounds of coffee roasted every year.
It can be found now in over 500 retailers internationally, and 65% of the employees they have are veterans.
Now, also joining us is Matt Best.
And Matt, he joined the Army at the age of 17.
He deployed five times to Iraq and Afghanistan, second ranger battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, and after leaving military service, he deployed to a variety of areas overseas as a contractor over the course of five years with the CIA.
So now everybody that I know, I'm saying you can have the best coffee you've ever had in your life, and you're supporting veterans, and you're no longer supporting liberal Starbucks.
And I'm tired of liberal Starbucks.
I literally walk into Starbucks and I get daggers out of the eyes of everybody sitting there reading the New York Times with their lofty.
And I'm a little tired of it.
Not and when you compare the coffee, the product, Black Rifle Coffee, is a thousand times better.
Anyway, so we were just talking, and I said, guys, come in the studio and uh Evan Hafner, thank you for being with us.
Matt Best, thank you for being with us.
Now, Matt is responsible for the crazy videos on your website, the off-the-hook videos with all these good-looking girls that you're firing big rifles, right?
You do all that.
Uh allegedly.
Allegedly.
Is that allegedly?
Have you gotten into trouble with any of them?
Uh, you know, some feedback isn't the best, but you know, we have fun, and I like being reverent and being myself and and supporting the values that I believe in.
Well, we're honored to have you on the program.
And Evan, I just want to ask you, all right.
So you how did you get so into coffee?
Because by the way, it's the most important drink in my day.
If I don't have it, you're in trouble.
Just like every good story, it starts with a girl.
So right?
Yeah.
In uh 1995, I was taking some classes at uh at a community college.
I met this barista, and she she got me to come in, and and well, I don't know if she got me to come in.
I started coming into the coffee shop a little bit more frequently.
I started drinking espresso and I loved it.
Like I fell in love with espresso to the point where you know I would take short trips when I was in college over to Seattle, and I was diving into these little boutique coffee shops.
And at that time, you know, coffee wasn't so uh pervasive everywhere, right?
You could you had to go search this stuff out.
And I started searching this stuff out, and it really dove into the the nitty-gritty and the details of coffee really early.
It's over 20 years ago now, it's kind of hard to believe.
Um then as a soldier deploying back and forth, you couldn't find good coffee anywhere.
It was instant coming out of an MRE, or it was really bad coffee that you're getting in what's called a dining facility.
Yeah.
Uh so I really went down the rabbit hole on roasting because I was trying to find the perfect cup of drip and the perfect espresso.
So in 2007, I I got my first roaster, and I really started pouring my heart into this.
Plus, it was something completely different.
You know, a lot of guys said I wanted to come home and do R, right?
Well, what I called it was the three R's.
It was like reading, running, and roasting coffee kind of gave me a uh a little bit of a break from what I was doing overseas.
And it allowed me to take something with me, and I could replicate that same cup of coffee that I was having, you know, in the mountains of Idaho or you know, on the coastal lines of Oregon, I could take that overseas to Afghanistan or Iraq, and I could replicate the perfect cup of coffee anywhere I was.
So I could start my day knowing at least this is what I could control.
Uh uh So you found this interest, but I really and I'm not saying this because you're an advertiser.
I when I the coffee is distinctly better and different.
What I tried to go after was the perfect cup of drip.
I just wanted to find the perfect cup of drip, and then I started adding espresso and a few of these other things.
Drip coffee.
When you say that, it's like uh a Mr. Coffee Machine.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I and that's where just black, one of my blends came from, was every time I ordered coffee, I don't order it with cream or sugar.
I say just black.
Right.
And I wanted the By the way, that's my favorite.
That's all I I always for my whole life just black.
And I think it's the only way to drink coffee in my opinion.
Yeah.
And because if you've got to put sweeteners and milk and a bunch of other things in your coffee, that means the coffee isn't very good.
And that's what that what coffee is So that's how Starbucks has gotten so successful by making crappy coffee and putting caramel and uh frappuccinos and uh you know uh whipped cream all over it to disguise the taste.
Well, and sugar's a highly addictive substance, too.
So you're adding two different addictive substances into a drink, and ultimately you do your your your roasting is inferior if you have to add sugar and milk into it.
And I'm not you know, people people take their coffee the way they take it.
I don't judge them, I just make the coffee.
I just try to make the best.
But talk about so this is a veteran company.
You hire mostly vets, and you built this thing out, and America's responded.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I don't know many companies that grow what 750% in a year.
Yeah, and that's that's a little off the hook.
Yeah.
Well, I think people wanted this just as much as I did, and I was tired of walking into coffee shops because you've been a Starbucks.
What do you think of Starbucks?
Because I every time I go in there, it's the same scene.
It's a bunch of hippies, long hair, Hillary supporters, Bernie supporters.
They look at me like I have 15 heads, reading the New York Times and out with their computer.
It just the whole scene is not my scene.
That's the premium coffee scene, just in general.
What you just described is what I started Black Rifle Coffee for Americans, the people that put the lights on around here, the guys that are carrying rifles overseas, the construction workers that are pounding.
But somebody hasn't forgotten about those because that's my that's my dad, that's my grandpa, that's my uncle.
These are the people that I know have served the country, and not only that, continue to serve the country, and they deserve a higher quality product, and they shouldn't have to deal with the BS going to these progressive wing nut institutions.
I want my dollars.
I want to vote with my dollars.
Right.
And I want my dollars that go to help vets in future careers, in their businesses, and uh for and I'll just throw Starbucks out there again.
Their values are not my values.
And I know they're big and I know they're rich, but I frankly think that once people understand what Br Black Rifle Coffee's about, how good the product is, you know, if you start building out stores around the country, I think people will flock to them because there's half the country that listens to the Starbucks CEO and they roll their eyes and they're like, Oh, why do I have to go to that store?
Because they pretty much have had a monopoly now for a lot of years.
Well, and I think that's that's the premise of Black Rifle Coffee.
It's it's a coffee company that supports what we believe is the true American value system, and it is America's coffee.
And that's where let me get to Matt.
So how did you hire Matt and how did these videos because they all go so viral, and then I read comments, then you get in trouble, and I'm like, but because you're you're shooting guns, but you did serve your country, you were in the military, they did train you to shoot guns.
You put yourself in harm's way for your country, both of you, and and many of the people that work for you, and then people get mad that you're showing your skills on a video.
You know, it's a satirical representation of of my hobbies and my values, and I enjoy shooting guns, and if you look at anything, we're probably some of the most safe firearms handlers you'll ever see.
And when I was contracting back for the agency, I had some downtime once in a while, and that's when I just started writing these kind of crazy skits to entertain my immediate friends and family, and they they took off very quickly, and then we kind of figured out a way to monetize them.
I had started an apparel company, and then you know, Evan had brought coffee to the table, and that's it was just a great thing.
I I wake up every morning, have my cup of joe, and being able to see I would like to go to a a c Black Rifle coffee shop.
This is my dream for you guys.
I'd like to go where my town, and I know all across America, all that big red mass that is America.
Um, I think every small town and every city that had a Starbucks, if a black rifle coffee company store open, I I I guarantee you everybody would choose that, at least the people that I know that listen to this audience on this show and on TV, we'd go there.
That's where I would and I'd like to meet other veterans.
I like to meet people that share my values, uh, people that aren't sitting there with the New York Times believing that's gospel and understand that it's fake news.
And uh for me that would be I I would love that experience.
And that's coming.
Yeah, it's coming.
That is coming.
It's coming.
Yes.
Yeah, that's coming over the next three years.
We're gonna see over fifty retail locations for black rifle coffee.
Uh and you know, that that is.
Uh that would be fair, right?
Yeah, put it in your house.
Um now here's the thing.
Now you you have all the people that support you though, there because you get a lot of feedback from the people that buy your coffee.
Right.
You know, it was funny because uh one of my best friends said to me the other day, he heard me doing the ad for your your coffee, and he said, I've it's the only coffee I've ever bought.
You know, I bought it since they've gotten in business.
Once people buy it, try it, they like it.
Do you uh I assuming you're getting the same feedback, and also the feedback is like I'm not giving it to these big companies that don't care about our veterans.
I mean, you're doing two things at once here.
You're getting a great product and you're supporting American vets.
We're building a community, it's coffee with a cause.
We want to have the ability to actually directly engage with their customer base, whereas you know, larger corporate entities they don't care.
It's just it's how do I shave margins to make the most profit where we want to make a difference and we want to give back to the community that put us where we are today and and have supported our company and put put us in a position where we can actually do what we love every morning.
Well, and people need to understand that the majority, and when I say the majority of the big coffee companies are all owned by a German holding company.
Right.
And that they don't have a soul, they're not they're not looking out for the American values.
They're looking out for profit.
That's what they're looking out for.
So when we go to work every day, right, our subculture is directly interfaced with the veteran subculture.
That's who we're working.
That's who we're going to work for.
There are over 250,000 vets because of multiple deployments, Iraq and Afghanistan.
I'm sure both of you know people that suffer from this, PTSD.
Right.
It's not it's this is real.
The VA scandal was real.
Right.
And there are people I can't tell you how many vets somebody's friend of a friend of a friend would call me, oh my God, you know people, can you help us?
And the Person I always go to in those moments has been Ollie North.
Yeah.
And Ollie North will spend 15 hours on the phone to talk to that guy that's in trouble.
And we do have organizations that we know of where we do help people and get them the help that they need.
You know, rivers of recovery, uh building homes for heroes.
There's so many different organizations that do so much good work.
So let me ask you this.
So you both were CIA contractors.
You both have been serving in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Um that's a tough life.
I mean, and you both spent years of your life doing it.
Um looking back, is it a choice you'd make again?
Matt.
Absolutely 100%.
Serving my country was I I think about it to this day, and I mean I think that's way it's so engraved in our DNA that we're still trying to serve a country just in a different capacity in business these days.
But it was the best experience of my whole entire life.
It's kind of I love win-win.
I mean, you're doing something you love, you're doing something a product that people love, and you're helping vets in the meantime, right?
I mean, yeah.
And did you like your time?
Oh, absolutely.
Uh in all second what what Matt just said, which is it was outside of you know the birth of my my first and second child, it was the finest.
Be careful because your youngest is eight months old, and they don't teach these children how to talk.
Because they will talk back.
They will.
They will.
And they'll do it effectively, annoyingly so.
I loved every and I when I say not every minute, but I loved the entire evolution and service that I had from eighteen to just three years ago.
I was serving pretty much every day of my life.
And I love this country.
I think that's what people need to understand more.
It's it's not necessarily about the service, it's about love of country.
It's I love my family, I love my community, I love my country, and I'm proud of it, and I want to defend it.
All right, so I want everybody that's listening.
Listen, make the switch.
The coffee, I promise you, is better.
And you're also supporting a vet run company that is only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger because of the quality and the great support that everybody has for veterans.
It's Black Rifle Coffee.
What is it?
Black Rifle Coffee.
Black Rifle Coffee Company.
Yeah.
In uh what's the website?
BlackRifle Coffee.com.
Yep.
Uh it is the finest coffee in America.
Absolutely.
I can testify to that.
All right.
Well, guys, good to see you guys today.
Thank you very much.
Thank you both.
Right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, we have an investigative report on many different levels.
What do the Pfizer court judges think about being lied to?
We have new developments, and that's Sarah Carter, David Schoen, also Greg Jarrett, Michelle Malkin, the Mooch, Anthony Scaramucci tonight, Larry Elder, Congressman Matt Gates, and Tom Fitton.
All coming up.
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