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Feb. 23, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show

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	All right, glad you're with us as we uh continue our show from yesterday from Washington DC, the swamp, the sewer.
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	Um very fascinating to watch this debate unfold over how to really it's about how to keep schools safe.
	But if you watch the media, the only answer that they have is uh how do we how do we modify the gun laws in America?
	Um in this particular case that happened in Parkland, you you gotta stop, you gotta start at where it's it where it all began.
	You have a very troubled kid.
	Now I would say all of you, wherever you live, you probably have that one kid in town, the three kids in town that you know are the biggest troublemakers.
	You know, at the end of the day, most kids in school, they know the other kids, the ones that do drugs, the ones that smoke pot, they know the ones that drink, they know the people that are having sex, they know everything that's going on there.
	In this case, they knew about this kid Cruz.
	They knew that he was trouble.
	They knew that he had brought these, you know, uh different parts of a weapon into the school.
	He got thrown out of the school.
	Now, I am in particular, I was a little disappointed in the sheriff of Broward County last night.
	We went after Dana Lash and and well, a lot of people went after her.
	They talked about burning her and uh calling her a murderer, and she's sitting there trying to offer solutions and find area of agreement.
	If if the real goal is if you want to score cheap political points, okay, you can go out there and you can stack the deck.
	There's one kid that actually is claiming that CNN didn't, you know, was trying to feed him the question, therefore he didn't want to go and partake in that.
	And by the way, CNN has a history of this, wouldn't surprise me.
	I'll play you his comments later in the program today.
	But if the if you really want the solution, you gotta sit, you gotta talk, you gotta listen.
	I think what happened at the White House, that listening session yesterday was far more productive than what they tried to do on CNN last night.
	At some point, we've gotta ask ourselves if everybody knows after a shooting that a kid is capable.
	Oh, that's uh we're not surprised.
	Well uh everybody, everybody thought he was capable of this.
	Okay, the school obviously had to know he brought clips to school one day.
	Not many kids in high school are bringing clips for weapons to school.
	If you look over his social media footprint, what do you see?
	Guns, an obsession with guns, gun one gun picture after another, shooting guns, showing off guns, showing off this and that.
	That is an indicator.
	The fact that the police, some thirty-nine times had to get in touch with this family about this kid is a pretty strong warning that something really bad is going on here, and this kid's not getting it, and he's not changing and shifting his behavior and and trying to to get along with the social mores and values that that most people have.
	Thirty-nine times is a lot.
	And then you take two very specific calls to the FBI warning about this particular kid.
	Now, at some point, you gotta say to yourself, okay, where did we mess up?
	Because every bit of evidence that we would ever need that somebody's gonna act like this, we had that evidence right there before us, and everybody knew that, quote, that was the kid.
	Now think about where you live now if you have kids.
	Um if you ask your kids, they'll kind of reveal a lot if you if you talk to your kids.
	You gotta pick the moment.
	I find the best moment is usually if I turn off, you know, Sirius XM radio, whatever station I'm listening to, either country music, Howard Stern, whatever I happen to be listening to in my car, I'll just turn it off and start talking and start asking questions.
	Like I know all right, I'll pick a school that I know that my kids were never a part of.
	At one particular school that I know where my my friends' kids go, there is a certain area where the kids that smoke pot go in the morning and smoke pot.
	Everybody knows the exact location.
	In the afternoon before they go back to class after lunch, they go back to the same spot every day and they smoke pot.
	A lot of the kids know it, a lot of the teachers know it, and nobody does anything.
	And if that information would be given to the police, all the police can be hiding out in another part and they can smell it and they can go over and they could do their job, and that would help get drugs out of school.
	Then if some kids are doing harder drugs, well, the other kids know about that too.
	If some kids are, you know, promiscuous, that's pretty well known as well.
	Although sometimes people lie about that particular issue, but they have it.
	So anyhow, so the the listening session was interesting to me.
	I thought a lot of people made a lot of the points that I've been making about this topic, which is if you really want to secure a school, it's really not that hard.
	If that's the goal, and you can do it without turning it into a gun debate.
	And here's how the gun debate goes.
	Let's say, as a result of this shooting, they banned AR-15s, which was used in this particular shooting in Parkland.
	Okay, the biggest loss of life in a school shooting happened to be Virginia Tech.
	In that school shooting, they use pistols.
	So if the next shooting, God forbid, because we don't lock down these schools, we don't do a full security and threat assessment on these schools, and we pretty much have these schools wide open for anybody that wants to walk in, whether they have an ID or not, whatever the next weapon is, the next time, then they're gonna take away, chip away a people's second amendment rights.
	I don't think that secures anything.
	Because you can't deal with the evil that lurks in the hearts of every man, woman, and child on this earth.
	But you've got to predict that these people exist because they do exist.
	So the first thing that I would do is I would have every school district ask the hard question, who are the kids that are now the most likely to be in trouble?
	Who do we know that's struggling and maybe they're a little antisocial, maybe they're quote, a little weird, maybe every school should look at the social media sites of every kid in their school.
	If you got 3,000, it's gonna take time, but you know, you have a few people spending eight hours a day just going through the social media postings of of every individual in school.
	You can do that fairly expeditiously.
	Then you have the police and security professionals, maybe former military guys.
	We go to every school in the country.
	You hire these guys.
	They probably would volunteer and say, we don't have the money, can you help us out?
	And I guarantee you, people trained professionals in in the military and law enforcement, they will give you a rock solid threat assessment plan that will be impenetrable, which means that this can't happen again.
	And it's got to be followed up with, okay, no kid gets in the school without the proper ID.
	I can't get in any building In New York without a license.
	If I go to the buildings that I work in, I can't get in without my ID.
	You know, I can't tell you how many times, you know, I've I've gone to work and I don't have my ID that day.
	And they say, Hi, Mr. Hannity, and I said, Yeah, I forgot my ID, and they say, You've got to sign in at the front desk, and I better have my other ID with me or else I'm in trouble.
	And they know exactly who I am.
	Just like nobody gets exceptions when you go through security at the airport.
	You go through your airport, you get if everyone gets, doesn't matter.
	And look, nine out of ten times I'm doing jet blue, and they'll say, Hi, Mr. Hannity, how are you?
	Good to see you.
	I like your show.
	Now take your shoes off and open your bag, and if I'm set to be checked, I'm gonna get wanted and checked.
	Like every just the way it should be.
	You know, you think about this.
	We after 9-11, we now protect our airports.
	We now protect, you know, our sports stadiums.
	Look at what they do for the Super Bowl every year.
	They lock that sucker down.
	They got dogs for bombs, they've got everybody being wanted.
	You go through metal detectors.
	Now, look, I I'd rather live in a world where I did not have to take my shoes off and put my bags through the X-ray machine and and wait an hour and get there an hour early so I can board an airplane.
	I prefer to live in a world where I could walk up five minutes till my boarding time, take my bag, throw it right over the bin, close my eyeballs, and go to sleep.
	But that's not the reality of the world we live in.
	We don't want another 9-11.
	We don't want another hijacking.
	And after these things happen, you've got to learn lessons and you gotta get smarter.
	And if the goal is to protect these kids, well, the first thing is I would find a database and build a database of every kid that you think and identify as being troubled.
	And then with those kids, maybe you can work with local counselors in the area and and maybe they would even counsel the at least attempt to counsel these kids for free.
	And and maybe offer up their services.
	And then if you bring in the retired military guys and the retired police officers, they do a full threat assessment.
	They decide for you what doors are open at what time.
	They decide if you need an ID program in that particular neighborhood.
	They can determine if every kid needs to go through a metal detector, just like they go through when you're getting on an airplane, and then nobody can get into that school that doesn't, that isn't identified, that has something that they shouldn't have in the school.
	And then you follow it up with trained professionals that are hired.
	Retired military, armed, retired police, armed.
	And you're gonna say, Hannity, we don't even have money for books.
	Well, I don't know if that's hyperbole on the part of some people, but you know what?
	If that's the case, I would imagine that every single school district would be able to gather enough people and do enough fundraising to make sure that you have the necessary protection because you can't put a price on a child's life.
	So I think there are practical solutions.
	And, you know, I'll I'll play you some of the things that were said from yesterday.
	Listen to this one kid, and well, first of all, this is what really angers me.
	This is a guy that was it was a Broward shooting survivor.
	Listen to him tell him that last night when they called, let's see, uh Dana Lash, a murderer, and they were chanting to burn her.
	Listen what he says about how CNN set this up.
	Yeah, I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinion on my questions.
	But Colton Hobb, a member of the junior ROTC, who shielded classmates in the midst of terror, says he did not get to share his experience.
	CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions, and it ended up being all scripted.
	Colton wrote questions about school safety, suggested using veterans as armed school security guards, but claimed CNN wanted him to ask a scripted question instead, so he decided not to go.
	I don't think that it's gonna get anything accomplished.
	It's not gonna ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have.
	Now I have a little bit of history.
	This is not new for fake news CNN, and it was a it was obviously a stack deck, but then you go to the White House listening session, and I'll play this when we get back, because I thought there were really really smart, bright, uh intelligent ideas That were being put forth there.
	I give the president a lot of credit for doing this.
	And there's a way to do this, and that we can protect our kids, protect our schools, and also protect the rights of law-abiding Americans and their second amendment rights.
	All right, bump stocks.
	All right, got it.
	That's that's gone.
	The NRA had supported that.
	And the NRA supports a lot of other things in spite of the way the media demonizes and tries to portray them.
	It's like everything else they do, it's inaccurate.
	Pretty amazing story out about fake news CNN.
	Michelle Malkin writes this.
	And uh anyway, and they talk about, well, this isn't the first time if she reminds us that during the presidential debate in Vegas in 07, Wolf Blitzer introduced several citizen questioners as ordinary people and undecided voters.
	Well, later it turned out to include a former Arkansas Democratic Director of Political Affairs and the president of the Islamic Society of Nevada, and a far-left anti-war activist who'd been quoted in newspapers just ripping Harry Reid for his failure to pull out of Iraq.
	And then at a CNN YouTube GOP debate two weeks later, the everyday undecided voters whose questions were chosen included a member of the lesbian gay bisexual, transsexual Americans for Hillary Clinton steering committee, a young woman named Journey who questioned the candidates on abortion,
	and CNN failed to properly identify as an outspoken John Edwards supporter, a supposed log cabin Republican who declared his support for Obama on an Obama 08 campaign blog, a supposedly unaffiliated concerned mother who was actually a staffer and prominent Pittsburgh union activist for the steel workers,
	which had endorsed Edwards for president, another quote, undecided voter who urged Ron Paul to run as an independent, but had already publicly declared his support for the former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson's Democratic presidential bid, and a staffer for Dick Durbin, a former intern for Jane Harmon, and a former intern for the Council of American Islamic relations.
	So, you know, when you listen to this guy come out and say, yeah, they they didn't want me to ask my question.
	They wanted a scripted question.
	I'm thinking, oh, well, that fits perfectly.
	Because the network that actually, you know, this was an article in one of these blogs, I forget which one about me today.
	Hannity at CPAC, he called CNN the shh whole network.
	Okay, they used that word like a hundred and ninety-four times in 24 hours.
	Because it was anti-Trump.
	And now if if they're stacking the deck with people that support their agenda on the second amendment, and they come up with a phony town hall, well, it certainly fits into the narrative that I've been saying that journalism is dead, and CNN is the shh whole fake news network that they've always been.
	So you're not going to get any fairness.
	The only question I have, why did Rubio and Dana Lash go on the network?
	We'll have Dana Lash on Hannity tonight at CPUC.
	All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800 nine-four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program as uh we continue.
	Look, everybody can talk all they want.
	I think about the Second Amendment.
	At the end of the day, I don't think laws changed short of banning weapons in this country, disarming the American people, and even then would never get the desired result.
	It's sad, but we live in a dangerous world.
	I ask liberals all the time, all the years I've debated gun control.
	Well, God forbid, what happens if somebody breaks into your house?
	What are you gonna do?
	I'm gonna I'm gonna call the police.
	Okay, you're dead.
	Your family's dead.
	You're done.
	Whatever they decide to do to you will be done.
	And you're not gonna you have to be able to defend yourself.
	I've never understood the fear that some have of defending themselves.
	Um people ask me all the time because they know that I'm somebody that believes in the Second Amendment, right, to keep and bear arms.
	You know, well, what kind of gun should I get?
	Should I get a Glocker or a Ruber?
	You know, they just they don't even know what they're talking about.
	A shotgun, what about an AK?
	You know, because they've heard these.
	I'm like, well, I don't care what kind of gun you get.
	I have AR-15s, I have shotguns, I have a collection of pistols.
	It just happens to be a Passion of mine.
	Unfortunately, I don't get to shoot as much as I want, being in radio as many years as I have.
	My ears are shot, and I don't really feel like hearing ringing for three weeks after I shoot, even with ear protection.
	And it just happens.
	But I still shoot, you know, to keep my skill level up.
	What what firearm do you want to be trained in the use of?
	That would be my advice.
	Learn about firearm safety.
	It's not a toy.
	You know, before, you know, I just happen to be helping my daughter.
	She's on the verge of getting her license.
	There's nothing worse in the world than teaching a child how to drive a car.
	That's how I am on the other side.
	I'm just like twitching and twitching and calm down, Dad.
	Calm down.
	I got it.
	You stopped in the middle of the intersection.
	A car was headed right towards me.
	Hit the gas pedal.
	Um it's really not that bad.
	Well, actually it is.
	It actually is.
	But I try to do it patiently.
	It's the same with firearms.
	I look, I know some of you are afraid of firearms.
	One thing you will learn, you'll never hear about the NRA is you meet people at if you go to a gun shop and you want to buy a gun, maybe for self-protection, or maybe you just want to try it and see if you like it, that it's something that you're interested in.
	The thing my experience has been as experienced as I am with pistols, I'm not as experienced with with rifles.
	But the desire of those that know to teach in a very loving and friendly, safe way is unbelievable.
	And they know that if there's inexperienced people with firearms, they want to take the mystery away.
	They want to show you how to use these weapons, how to store these weapons, how to load these weapons, what happens if the weapon jams, what if what if this happens?
	There's there's all sorts of people that you know, this is what they do for a living.
	And they take great pride in teaching people gun safety.
	And every Second Amendment pro-Second Amendment person I know is passionate about safety.
	I'm extraordinarily passionate about safety.
	Anyway, so you know, we have the the usual opportunists, those that want to politicize tragedy.
	I mean, this wasn't two hours old, and I think you had members of Congress on the floor of the House, you know, coming out with their typical predictable talking points, and there are yet millions of Americans that believe in the right to keep into bear arms.
	We believe historically, constitutionally, it is our right, and it's given to us and granted to us.
	And unfortunately, we have to fight to keep those rights.
	You know, if you don't solve the problem, which is the safety issue at schools, then every time this happens, everyone's going to be going back to the same old arguments and debates, and we're not going to solve the problem, and and schools are not going to be any safer.
	But if you really want to save these kids from these terrible situations, there's a way to do it.
	Full complete security threat assessments of every single school.
	And I guarantee your local police department, you know, retired military in your community, uh, retired special ops forces in your community.
	I guarantee you they would line up if you put out the call, hey, we're looking for the best and brightest people in the community to help keep our school safe.
	Will you help us?
	They'll do it for free.
	They would do that in a second in a heartbeat.
	And then they'll make a full complete threat assessment.
	What is the best way to get kids to enter the school?
	How do you prevent people that don't belong in the school from getting in the school?
	Probably some ID system would be necessary.
	You might have to add to it a system, a metal detector of some kind, or wanding the kids as they come into school to make sure that they don't bring a weapon into school with them, making sure people that don't belong there can't get in there.
	And then you have to hire people that are armed and trained and have the ability to be on the ground.
	You know, all these shootings, as we learned in the in the White House conversation yesterday, they're over in three minutes.
	Police take six to eight minutes, which is just an astronomically great response rate.
	But by the time they get there, it's over.
	So you have to have people on the ground that are able to do it.
	I I'm less inclined.
	I'm not against teachers that Want to be trained that would feel comfortable carrying a firearm with them concealed.
	I'm I'm absolutely fine with that, but I'm not expecting that a lot of teachers are going to want to go through that kind of training and and have that big responsibility on their hands.
	I think most teachers I know they want to they want to teach.
	And so I I think it's you're really looking at retired policemen, retired military, and yes, I think I would have them armed.
	And I think if you do that, I think we're gonna make it a safer place for our kids.
	You know, in this listening session, I thought the president did a remarkable job.
	I thought on CNN you got the same predictable fake news that they wanted to make a Jerry Springer show out of it, and they did.
	And I think there's a better way to talk to each other rather than you're a murderer, murderer, murderer, and you know, burn her.
	I mean, really, that's news.
	It was pretty pathetic.
	Really, and there's a sort of sickness that they take their agenda that far.
	I want everyone to think about this for one second.
	This goes right into your question.
	Do you know that it is not federally required for states to actually report people who are prohibited possessors, crazy people, people who are murderers?
	No.
	We've been actually talking about that for a long time.
	Let me answer the question.
	Let me answer the question.
	You can shout me down when I'm finished, but let me answer Emma's question.
	It is not federal law for states to report convictions to the Nick system.
	All right, that that was Dana Lash yesterday at this town hall.
	Same thing happened to Marco Rubio when he tried to explain his position on this.
	And and my the only one, by the way, that finds it a little bit more ironic that a room full of gun control advocates are shouting burn her and murderer, uh, assembled by fake news CNN last night, repeatedly threatening violence against the NRA spokesperson in that show,
	which was Dana during the questioning from um by a Stoneman Douglas student, Emma Gonzalez, you know, you had attendees literally screaming and heckling her as a murderer.
	And you know, all right, so Jake Tapper said to keep quiet.
	As he kept quiet, by the way, I didn't hear him jump in.
	And the angry crowd grew angrier and they grew louder.
	And Lash tried to say, if you let me answer your question, you can shout me down when I'm finished, but let me answer Emma's question to which someone shouted, You're a murderer.
	Well, how are you gonna have a conversation with somebody like that?
	And I know everybody's emotions are running high.
	I I get it.
	I understand it.
	We lost 17 people.
	We did not have to lose.
	There are preventable measures here.
	And if you love life, we've got to protect innocent life.
	And the way to protect innocent life is like the same way that we protect all other life in big environments like this.
	And that is security checks, that is IDs, that is metal detectors, the same, the same drill.
	I mean, imagine uh we'd all love it, I guess, that after 9-11 we didn't have the have to go through security the way that we do, but that's not reality.
	That wouldn't make us safer.
	I'm willing to take my shoes off, go through the wanding, go through the machine, have them check my bag, take out the lotion that I put in there because it's too big, have them take my water and say, have a nice day and go on to my plane and know that everybody else went through the same check.
	That plane's gonna be safe.
	I mean, I'd rather live in a world where there's no evil, but that world doesn't exist.
	There's a world of murders, rape, child molesters, evil people.
	We have evil countries, North Korea, Iran, you know, Putin, Russia, China, that all hate us.
	And then we have individuals that have their own evil within them.
	All those people I mentioned are evil.
	So the idea is to protect the good people against the evil people.
	Anyone that would walk into a school and kill innocent children this way is evil.
	You're not gonna remove the evil from the heart by taking away the gun that you think the next one is gonna use.
	So it just it's logically speaking, that's not gonna work.
	Protecting our schools is the answer.
	All right, let's go to our busy uh phones.
	Joe is in Los Angeles.
	Joe, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
	Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
	I'm good, sir.
	What's happening?
	Hey, uh, I just want to bring up a couple of things really quick.
	We have a high school out here in uh I actually live in Santa Clarita, and we have a sheriff's department right on that high school campus.
	And you know, when the Democrats cry, oh, we can't afford that, we can't afford that.
	All Trump has to do is box them in corner and say, okay, I'll tell you what, we'll take all the money away from the illegals that we're given benefits to, and we'll fund it that way, and now we'll have safe schools.
	And then I want to hear them complain about it.
	It's like, you know what, having armed security or a sheriff's department or a police department on every campus throughout the country always You need is like maybe two or three cops.
	And it seems like Well, I don't think so.
	Look at this park Parkland school.
	They had what, a first, second, and I believe third floor in the main building, then they have multiple other buildings on the campus.
	You've got to secure number one, the perimeter of the school.
	This is my threat assessment knowledge from all my friends that are in law enforcement.
	You gotta have the perimeter sealed off.
	You have to have the entry point sealed off.
	Um, and then you have to have at least somebody I would argue on every floor that is prepared to deal with any situation that would emerge on that floor.
	So, okay, so what how many floors are there?
	What three?
	You can't you can have an armed guard or an armed police officer on every floor.
	What's maybe three cops?
	Well, okay, in the in one building, yeah, three, and then uh you have a one, two, or three people on the perimeter that go back and forth to make sure that nobody is hanging out in the woods trying to walk in uh and maybe they made an arrangement with somebody to push open the door for them.
	You gotta make sure that doesn't happen.
	And you gotta make sure that you know the kids that are in the class in the school that those kids don't have weapons themselves.
	Right, right.
	Oh, I like your idea with the metal detector and all that stuff, too.
	I just think that, you know, like you said with the TSA, you have to go through those those those those situations, and then yeah, you come out on the other side and you're fine.
	You know what I mean?
	But but I I think the way to fund it is you yeah, you cut off all the money to the illegals and say, no, we're not gonna give government benefits to these people anymore.
	We need to funnel it into our own country for our own safety.
	So look, there's all sorts of ways that we can do this.
	Well, what if we made everybody that worked at a school, maybe they can get a federal income tax break.
	They pay no federal income taxes on their other job.
	And if they volunteer, you know, ten hours a week, retired police, retired military.
	They have a military pension, no taxes on their pension.
	Nothing.
	Not a penny if they are willing to work ten hours a week.
	I think that's a good deal.
	These guys would do it in a heartbeat.
	Wouldn't cost, we wouldn't even notice it.
	Uh let's go to Eric is in Parkland, Florida.
	Eric, again, we're sorry what happened to your community.
	And I do believe there are answers if we want them.
	Hey, Sean, it's an honor to talk to you.
	I um I graduated from Stoman Douglas in 2004.
	Um Parkland's been my lifelong home.
	Um, and you know, I could go a lot of different ways and talk about a lot of different things, but I really just wanted to begin with a comment on what you said at the very beginning of your program today about last night's uh sham of a town hall.
	You said you were disappointed in our sheriff.
	Let me say this in no uh equivocal terms.
	The sheriff of my county down here, Scott Israel, is a politician.
	He's a leftist.
	He is best friends with Debbie Wosserman Schultz and Ted Deutsch.
	He's not a sheriff.
	So when people come in and they when people look at our community now because it's been thrust into the spotlight and they talk about the sheriff's department, let's just be real clear, and I need all of America to know he is not a sheriff.
	He's a politician who masquerades behind a badge.
	The first thing out of his mouth last week when he stood in front of Miami is gun control.
	Didn't say hi to our governor at the press conference and talked about defeating people who take money from the NRA.
	So I just really need it.
	I'm so glad I got through the line.
	Listen, I was very happy with the job he did.
	I mean, and his team did, and I can separate his politics from the job of being a sheriff.
	I thought he did a good job.
	Um, under the circumstances, I think his answer and his logic are faulty.
	Um I I think the only smart person in Florida yesterday was Governor Rick Scott, who knew darn well that this was a setup by CNN.
	And I'm gonna lay out tonight their history of stacking the deck in these phony town halls that they put together.
	Fake news, phony town halls.
	Um look, I love law enforcement.
	They're allowed to have their political opinions that differ from mine.
	That's not the issue.
	The issue is if we if we implemented what I said, A full security threat assessment of every school.
	We controlled the perimeter, one entrance point, one exit point, in an emergency, you have a plan to open other doors.
	And then you had armed retired police, armed retired military, uh in on every floor of the school, and you metal detect the kids coming in and you ID them, I think it ends.
	I think the problem goes away.
	Unless somehow the w there's a weakness in the system, somebody doesn't do their job.
	Anyway, that should be the goal.
	800 94.
	One Sean, if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
	Cheryl Atkinson's going to talk about just how fake news got started in this country.
	Then we have Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.
	Then we'll get back to this topic with Heraldo Rivera and Jonathan Gillam.
	All right, when we come back, how where did fake news begin?
	And Heraldo Jonathan Gillam debate the issue of the shooting in Parkland.
	What is the solution?
	What if the whole anti-fake news campaign was an effort on somebody's part to keep us from seeing or believing certain websites and stories by controversializing them or labeling them as fake news?
	But who would want to do such a thing?
	When connecting the dots, I find it often helps to follow the money.
	I wanted to know who was funding the nonprofit first draft and its anti-fake news effort.
	I found the answer.
	It was Google.
	Google's parent company Alphabet was run by a man named Eric Schmidt.
	Eric Schmidt, as it happens, had devoted himself to Hillary Clinton's election campaign, offered himself up as a campaign advisor, and became a top multimillion dollar donor to it.
	His company funded first draft around the start of the election cycle.
	Not surprisingly, Hillary was soon to jump aboard the anti-fake news train.
	And her surrogate David Brock of Media Matters privately told donors he was the one who convinced Facebook to join the effort.
	I'm not the only one who thinks the whole thing smacked of the rollout of a propaganda campaign.
	Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept wrote, The most important fact you need to realize is that those who most loudly denounced fake news are typically the ones most aggressively disseminating it.
	But something happened that nobody expected.
	Each time advocates cried fake news, Donald Trump called them fake news until he co-opted the term so completely that even those who originally promoting it started running from it, including the Washington Post, which in January of 2017 wrote, It's time to retire, the tainted term fake news.
	In fact, it's now commonly misreported that it was Donald Trump who thought up the phrase.
	Actually, it was just a hostile takeover.
	I can tell you there are two ways to tell that powerful interests might be trying to manipulate your opinion.
	Number one, when the media seems to be trying to shape or censor facts and opinions rather than report them.
	Number two, when so many in the media are reporting the same stories, promulgating the same narratives, relying on the same sources, even using the same phrases.
	I mean, think of it.
	There are literally thousands of legitimate news stories that could be reported in a given day, and an infinite number of ways to report them.
	When everybody's on the same page, it might be the result of an organized campaign.
	I'll leave you with a final thought and a warning.
	It's about a new catchphrase being bandied about, media literacy.
	As in we'll tell you who to trust and who not to trust.
	Media literacy advocates are busy trying to get state laws passed to require that their version of media literacy be taught in public schools.
	They're developing websites as resources for journalists in the public.
	They're partnering with universities.
	I think media literacy is a new name promoted by some of the same people who want to tell you what to believe.
	People with their own agendas using terms designed to fool you into thinking they're neutral authorities.
	What you need to remember is that when interests are working this hard to shape your opinion, their true goal might just be to add another layer between you and the truth.
	All right, that was Cheryl Atkinson, and she's giving a speech in a talk to one of these TED Talks is what they have.
	And um, it's pretty powerful talk about the issue of fake news in America and how bad it actually is and what it means in terms of how do you get your information.
	Uh Cheryl Atkinson, by the way, she is with uh Sinclair.
	Her Sunday program is called Full Measure.
	Uh this TED Talk, I guess you did out in Vegas, uh, Cheryl, where'd you do it?
	Adam Reno, I think if you Google just TEDx and fake news and my name or anything like that, it'll come up on YouTube.
	Well, let me let's get into what fake news is and the origins of Fake news.
	That's that's what we need to get into.
	Because you know what?
	I think you're right.
	I I look at the media and I'm an opinion journalist.
	I'm an advocacy journalist, but as part of being a talk show host, I actually do journalism and I want to present the truth.
	And yeah, I have strong opinions, but I also see the biggest underreported story in the history of the country being ignored.
	You know, we hear about Trump Russia collusion, but nobody wants to talk about Putin's operatives in America in 2009 committing crimes, bribery, extortion, money laundering and kickbacks uh to get a foothold in the uranium industry, and nobody seems to care.
	Not not even a little bit do they care.
	And the same with the fake steel dossier.
	And I hear one narrative and one narrative only, and the only other show that I think has the other narrative is mine.
	So, you know, I I if I'm wrong on anything, I want you to tell me, but um I think this is more pervasive.
	I think it's more groupthink, more of an echo chamber than anybody ever imagined.
	I think you're absolutely right on this point.
	And I would say you start with the premise, as I've written about in my books, that pretty much all the narratives you see in popular life, whether it's on social media, the news, billboards you see, it's all being the strings are being pulled by these multi-billion dollar industries that seek to shape us,
	and they figured out wholly how to make the news report its talking points and its narrative de jour, which is why, in a neutral environment, I believe, the Iranian story that you mentioned, as well as this crisis in our intelligence community and the FBI that exists, I believe it's a constitutional crisis, it would be more reported in a neutral environment of people just using their own reporting skills and their own natural assessments.
	It's not because of this phenomenon that that you just mentioned.
	How could the media as they do act so outraged and and feign outrage, moral outrage, and be so offended at the idea that Vladimir Putin which I I think the evidence is overwhelming.
	Of course he wanted to try and create chaos.
	Uh I think Rod Rosenstein was correct.
	I think their goal was to sow discord in America it with American elections, which is why, you know, they were against uh uh for and against every candidate at different times.
	I mean, simultaneously they had competing rallies that they had organized through their troll network, one for Trump and one ant anti Trump.
	But if we if the media is gonna tell America that Russian influence and interference matters, and then they're gonna ignore that we had a we we literally had an FBI informant inside of Putin's operatives network in America,
	and he was reporting back to our government all these crimes being committed by Putin's thugs here, his operatives here, and the whole goal was to get a foothold in America's uranium industry, and they ended up successful eighteen months later because the then Obama administration and the Cyphyist board signed off on it.
	If we're not gonna talk about that, and we're just gonna, you know, gloss that over, well that tells me that the only thing Russian that the really the media cares about is just Russia Trump.
	They don't care about Russia, they don't care about Russian interference.
	And similarly, that goes for the fake dossier.
	If we care about Russian interference in an election, well, I think that the same media would care about a Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier using somebody a f uh that's not an American citizen, a foreign national, to get this propaganda, not verify the propaganda, all designed to manipulate the American voters, and then it even gets used as an application and a Pfizer warrant to spy on a a Trump campaign associate.
	Now that that's the these are bigger stories to me that actually have evidence.
	I don't see any evidence of Trump Russia collusion.
	I think you're absolutely right again.
	And uh I would say if you're talking about foreign interference, the Russians from what we know use social media in a s in a sense in a way that probably many foreign countries do, as well as in a disguised sense, the way our own U.S. government does, an American citizen.
	But what what you s as you say is not reported or underreported, the fact that a Yemeni born, I guess British citizen, Christopher Steele, was able to get his foreign intelligence that came from Russian sources into the hands of the FBI, used to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen is a Much to me a much bigger deal.
	And number two, which hasn't been reported, I hope to publish on this pretty soon, which hasn't been reported much.
	The Ukrainians who oppose the Russians naturally have been able to coordinate with or collude, if you will, the Democratic National Committee to get some of their information and intelligence and things that they wanted promulgated against the Russians into the hands of the FBI and get it reported also in the hands of reporters.
	So if you're talking about foreign interference, there is, I think, a much stronger line on other down other paths that haven't been widely reported.
	In all the years that the year and a half or or thereabouts that the media's been investigating Trump Russia collusion, can you cite any evidence that it existed?
	No, there is none.
	And I've you know, I've even written down sort of memorialized the many different former Obama officials and Republicans and Democrats who have all said that, even when they've reviewed classified evidence.
	And if you notice, it seems to me that the argument's shifting a little bit, whereby some of the people who factually stated that there had been some sort of proven illegal collusion between Trump and Russia are now saying things like, see, we told you the Russians were involved in social media.
	They're not even really arguing the same point anymore, but they're still acting as if the point has been proven.
	Mueller, for me, um, I look at a guy that he doesn't have any Trump supporters, doesn't have any Republicans on his team.
	He has a lot of people that donated to people like Obama and and people like Hillary Clinton and the DNC.
	And then I look at what the New York Times described, Andrew Weissman, his hitman and his track record.
	And we now have been examining two specific cases where he's been excoriated by judges for holding back exculpatory evidence.
	In the case of Anderson accounting, tens of thousands of people lost his their jobs because of him.
	That case was overturned in the Supreme Court 9-0.
	That doesn't happen very often.
	Four Merrill executives went to jail because of Andrew Weisman, and those convictions were overturned by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
	So and he's he's obviously anti Trump.
	Why is Robert Mueller putting together, why did he put together, I think, the most biased team of prosecutors you could ever have as part of a special counsel investigation?
	Well, some have said that the Mueller investigation doesn't cross over into, for example, the dossier investigation, but I think it does.
	I think all of this now intertwines in a complex way that makes Mahler, even if he's an honest guy, I have no reason to think he's not, you know, an honest player, but puts him in an awkward position of the appearance of a conflict of interest.
	Because if, as I believe, the larger scandal is the intelligence community and FBI have been committing alleged unethical acts, if not crimes, in surveilling citizens, and this is what they were trying to, in my view, hide from the incoming Trump administration.
	If this took place over the past ten or twenty years, as I believe the evidence shows, then that was when Mueller was FBI director, and it would be in his interest to protect the agency that I assume he loves, the culture, and the people, some of whom he worked with directly.
	So I I think there's a conflict, even assuming he's an honest player, and I'm I'm not saying he's not, but I think there's an appearance of a conflict.
	I think there is a conflict.
	We'll continue more with Cheryl Atkinson, 800 941 Sean is our toll-free telephone number, if you want to be a part of the program.
	As we continue with reporter Cheryl Atkinson, she has been writing and talking at length about the media.
	Um so is as I cover stories that the media doesn't cover, um, but Cheryl, I felt like in 2007 and eight that the media gave Barack Obama a pass.
	And and I went deep.
	We did a deep dive into who Barack Obama was, his past, his associations, et cetera.
	And that's where we found Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Acorn and Alinsky and Frank Marshall Davis.
	And I feel and the media just ignored it and gave him a pass straight to the presidency.
	I feel similarly now that the media has an agenda, and this time it's to destroy Donald Trump.
	Because if you're really going to influence really care about Russian influence in America, you can't ignore uranium one.
	You can't ignore the steel dossier, And now that it's creeping closer towards President Obama, what would be the best way to get to the truth?
	Well, I feel as though you're right that the media has admitted that its goal is to try to destroy President Trump under the idea that they believe he's a uniquely dangerous person, whether you know a predator of women or horribly racist or whatever it may be.
	So they've they've lifted themselves or we have lifted ourselves from our normal ethical requirements that we operate under to try to be neutral and fair and use certain kinds of sources.
	And in doing so, we've become vested in our theories.
	And now when these theories are being blown apart or proven otherwise by the evidence, you see this sort of confused effort to dig in and instead of following the facts.
	once you get so vested in something, I think it's human nature, not the one to turn around, especially when they've acknowledged what their goal is.
	So So you know it's a very confusing time.
	But I if you play the substitution game as I call it, and you see how equal stories and evidence are being treated differently by, you know, various players in the media, you have to conclude that this is not a fair playing field.
	Well, it's more than I I think it is I I don't think we have journalism for the most part in America today.
	I think journalism's dead.
	I think all these networks are abusively biased, agenda driven, and in the years here of Trump, the years of Trump.
	I think you've got, you know, all of this is on display and it's transparency on a level that nobody ever imagined.
	It's all out there for people to see.
	I don't think they're even trying to hide it anymore.
	I think that's right.
	I mean, I think what we have now is primarily advocacy journalism, and don't get me wrong, there are still some great reporters out there, and occasionally their great work gets published, but it's harder, number one.
	And number two, they're finding that they're being asked to produce a certain kind of stories, and if they don't, those stories don't get published.
	They want to.
	I'm in touch with some of them, and I know people, you know, sources they deal with who say these reporters in many instances want to tell certain stories, but they're being a good idea.
	I know reporters by doing so.
	Cheryl, they say that they're jealous of me because I'm doing work that they're not allowed to do on their network.
	How sad is that?
	I I get the same.
	I do that the Sinclair full measure show on Sundays, and I get called there's not a week goes by, someone doesn't call me from one of the networks, it's acquaintance or somebody saying, Can you can you know can you hire me?
	Because you it looks like you're getting to go do unfredded reporting.
	And I wish I had a bigger staff because I don't, but there are people who really want to do that and they see what's going on.
	All right, Cheryl Atkinson, thanks for being with us as always.
	We appreciate it.
	800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
	We are in Washington, DC.
	Tonight at CPAC, we got a great show.
	We'll have a town hall on the issue of how do we stop school shootings and more investigation into deep state gay.
	Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch.
	He'll join us next.
	Next, later on, Jonathan Gillum, Geraldo Rivera will be debating how to keep our schools safe and much more.
	Straight ahead.
	Several former and current officials to answer 10 simple questions.
	And these are questions that the public not only should know and have a right to know, but I think they want to know.
	And that is when did you simple questions like when did you learn uh about the dossier?
	When did you learn that it was paid for by the Democrats?
	When did you learn uh that uh this was a political uh piece?
	Part of what we sent out today with with the questionnaire with 10 questions on it.
	Uh also is a cover letter that says if you don't answer this, we're giving them a couple of weeks to answer it, uh, you will be subpoenaed and you will come before Congress to tell us when you knew about this.
	All right, Devin Nunes, who has now a set of questions as all of this now makes its way right back to the top of the Obama administration.
	What did they know?
	When did they know it?
	Especially about the Steel dossier, ten specific questions.
	We know that Clapper, we know that Brennan, uh, we believe Susan Rice and all others, including probably President Obama, are now being asked to answer these questions by March 2nd.
	If not, uh things will get a little little tight for them.
	Uh also over at Judicial Watch, our friends there have filed a new lawsuit with the State Department about the unmasking documents that went through.
	Remember Samantha Powers, how is it that she was unmasking a person a day?
	And then she denies that she was unmasking a person a day.
	And then that raises a question, if it wasn't her, then who was it?
	Anyway, because in the final year of the Obama administration there were three five hundred times more unmasking requests than had ever taken place before and that tells us that probably there were people within the Obama administration for political purposes wanting to know what the Trump campaign was up to.
	Uh so those that were picked up on any type of surveillance while minimization is the standard operating procedure not identifying them in other words that they have a right to privacy fourth amendment fourth amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure while we're finding out that the unmasking was so widespread that it seems like illegal spying was taking place.
	So our friends now at uh Judicial Watch have filed the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of State about unmasking also requesting other records tied to Obama's uh ambassador to the UN Samantha Power and that ongoing investigation and uh Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch he joins us now.
	How are you?
	Hey Sean good to be with you.
	All right so just so people know so all right we I believe in intelligence gathering because there's a lot of evil in this world and we know that it's pretty smart to know what the Russians are doing.
	The Chinese are doing the Iranians are doing the North Koreans are doing and we have these powerful tools of intelligence but at times when such people foreign agents that we are surveilling legally that we're doing our job to protect America well when they get caught up in a conversation with an American citizen for whatever reason a business purpose or in the case of General Flynn he's talking to his soon to be counterpart in Russia,
	they are not supposed to reveal the name of the American unless they pick up something that would be illegal or dangerous to the country and the process if an American is picked up incidentally is called minimization.
	They minimize what it is that they're listening to as it relates to the American side of that conversation.
	And then of course the next step in that would be well if you think the Americans done something untoward or illegal well then you might unmask the identity of that individual and then begin an investigation.
	But this apparently was so widespread it was happening almost all of the time and then in the case of General Flynn then they took raw intelligence they leaked it and I would argue set him up for a perjury trap.
	So what are you trying to get and what do you what do you think happened and what do we know that happened?
	Well I think the administration quickly understood that they could use this foreign intelligence surveillance as a backdoor way to spy on the Trump team and their logic was well we needed to know the identities of these Americans so we could understand the intelligence and I'm convinced the dossier was the rubric and the excuse that they used to justify the unmasking of the Trump team.
	You know we know the people who were unmasked include as best I can tell General Flynn and Attorney General Sessions and you can bet the president wasn't masked as well back when he was a candidate.
	No doubt that happened.
	And you know then they're not going to want to give you this information and and look you're getting some great information through these Freedom of information act requests but it's taken forever for you to get them.
	Well that's true and I I I think you know there's got to be this commitment to transparency by the administration expose what went on.
	Unfortunately I think the lawyers are running the show and King Muller is running the show as I call them so they don't want to tell us anything.
	They don't even want to confirm or deny a lot of what even took place such as the unmaskings and so that's why we're so in court just to force them to go on the record and maybe give them an opportunity to fess up here.
	And just as they declassified information for the Nunes memo, just as they'll declassify information for the Democrat memo, they need to start declassifying information so that we know whether there was an abuse of power unrivaled in recent American history using this unmasking process to justify spying on the opposition to the Democratic party of course Obama was in control of the the Democratic Party was in control of the executive branch at the time this has got to
	be cleared up Nunes said he looked at the materials initially he said there was a major issue and we still don't have answers and that's why we're in court trying to get them all right Samantha Power what was she doing asking anyone to be unmasked as UN ambassador to the Una as our UN ambassador you know by the time that intelligence gets to the senior people in the administration the lower level Intelligence officials, the senior intelligence officials thoroughly scrub it, and they make sure anything they need to know is in there.
	And if an American isn't listed, it's because as a judgment of the intelligence community, the consumers of the information that it needed to know.
	Why was Susan Rice, Samantha Power at the State Department unmasking people, despite basically being told by their subordinates they didn't need to know?
	Look, I don't have an answer, but the bottom line is when you have a three, four hundred percent increase, which we did have in this final year.
	Uh you gotta believe in an election year, especially in light of everything we know about the dossier, that in fact they were doing this as a means of spying on an opposition party candidate.
	Now, the country got look what happened when we had a break in the case of Richard Nixon and his campaign of their opposition, their other party during an election year and to get information against the other party, and then the cover up that ensued afterwards.
	Uh we look at Watergate as one of the lowest moments politically in the country.
	This to me takes Watergate and pumps it full of of steroids and human growth hormone uh at unsustainable levels, and it becomes the biggest abuse of power in American history.
	Well, yeah, the powers and the power of masking numbers look like they're like two hundred and sixty.
	And what I like about what Nunes is doing now, you know, we've been focused on this too, but he's drawing more public attention to it as you are, is that this isn't just the dossier being misused by the FBI and Justice Department to mislead the Pfizer Court.
	There are other agencies involved.
	For during the Obama administration, Obama made sure it was all hands on deck going after Trump on Russia.
	You had it looks like according to real clear in Paul Sperry, uh, that you had uh Brennan attached dossier to the uh intelligence briefing for the president, the daily intelligence briefing for President Obama.
	The NSA obviously would have been doing the intelligence surveillance, and then you had the dossiers being created out of the State Department, and of course the unmaskings being created out of the State Department.
	So you've had multiple agencies being abused, it looks like to get Trump.
	And you know, and and let's not be distracted by these Russia indictments.
	Let's not be distracted by uh the I guess the Democratic memo maybe come out in a day or two.
	It's all about getting Trump.
	It's not about Russia, guys, it's about Trump and using the powers entrusted to the American, and trusted by the American people, uh using the powers of government entrusted by the American people, abusing them to target Trump and remove him from office.
	That's what this is all about.
	I'd like to know with powers testifying before Trey Gowdy uh that she did not do the unmasking, but it was done in her name.
	I want to know who did it then.
	That raises the scandal to an even higher level.
	Was it somebody above them?
	Sessions is a victim here.
	Sessions is a victim.
	Flynn is a victim here.
	The president is likely a victim.
	You know, the pr there's a it's it's a violation of law to unmask someone for improper purposes.
	And I have no doubt that's what went on.
	But why isn't it being investigated?
	We're happy to do the work.
	Nunaz is asking questions.
	Where's the Justice Department in terms of asking questions about the unmaskings that took place during the last administration?
	We don't know the answer to that.
	That's the sad reality.
	All right, thanks, Tom Fitton with uh Judicial Watch.
	We always appreciate the uh good work you're doing sharing it with us.
	Uh this is gonna be a process, and as we move forward, every time we're getting more information, and the story becomes clearer and clearer about an abuse of power.
	Systematic abuse of power and corruption at the highest levels of government, and yeah, we're now getting right to the top of the former administration, the Obama administration.
	All right, to our phones, we go as we say hi to Joel, he's in Jacksonville, Florida on WOKV.
	Joel, hi, how are you?
	Welcome to the sewer, the swamp that is our nation's capital.
	I'm doing great.
	Thanks for uh thanks for taking my call.
	Thank you.
	Um I got a question.
	Um with the collusion and the dossier and everything getting even closer to Obama, how can we expect any of these major players to tell the truth under oath?
	I don't th well, I mean, I don't think I don't think they're gonna tell the truth.
	Uh it's one of these things, and this look, for those that want an instant touchdown here that the smoking gun comes out, that they may come, but right now you gotta understand they know exactly what they did.
	They know exactly what evidence exists.
	I'm sure there were efforts and are efforts to prevent us from ever seeing any of this evidence, and they're trying to cover it up as quickly as they can.
	I mean, I think the whole Susan Rice final moment in the White House is very revealing.
	15 days prior, they have a meeting and she goes back with, he said, Barack Obama said, do everything by the book.
	Because she doesn't want him getting in trouble and probably doesn't want to get herself getting in trouble.
	Because of what was actually said in that meeting.
	Now, over time, maybe we'll find out what the minutes of the meeting actually said.
	Look, the bottom line is this, and these are facts.
	We know that the media won't cover bigger stories involving Russian influence in this country, including the election.
	If Donald Trump had bought and paid for a dossier with a foreign national getting information from Russians and Russian government sources that are never verified to smear Hillary in on, you know, weeks before and months before an election, the media would be demanding his impeachment right now, if he had done that and then he won the election.
	In the case of Hillary, the Clintons, they always get a pass.
	If if President Trump ever was so stupid to have an informant from the FBI within Putin's network here in America, that are trying to get a foothold into the uranium industry and then allow it to happen even though we knew all the crimes were being committed, then it that's a dereliction of duty.
	You know, it's it we he it's a betrayal of our of our important national security interests.
	And and remember, the president first and foremost is the commander in chief.
	Obama had to know about this.
	Hillary had to know about it.
	Eric Holder, we had nine agencies that all signed off on it.
	It never made sense to give twenty percent of our uranium to a hostile regime Russia, a hostile actor, Vladimir Putin, especially because we don't even have enough uranium sources on our own.
	It was stupid on a level I can't imagine.
	And if I'm Putin and I was able to successfully navigate through those uranium mines, no pun intended, then I would think going forward on an election interference issue would be a piece of cake because well, I can pull anything off pretty much now.
	Hey, listen, I appreciate the call.
	Thank you.
	As we continue, Sean Hannity show we're in Washington, D.C. 800 941 Sean.
	You want to be a part of the program.
	I know a lot of you watched um watching the president in that town hall he had together, and then what they did to poor Dana Lash last night and Marco Rubio last night.
	You know, why why would you think you're gonna get fair treatment on the fake news network?
	You know, apparently they're even setting up questions on the fake news network.
	And you know, to have people say you're a murderer and shouting all other sorts of incendiary comments.
	Why waste your time?
	Dana Lash, by the way, will be on Hannity tonight on the Fox News channel to respond to all of this.
	Uh but in the meantime, let's get to our phones here as we say hi to Barry.
	Barry is in New York City holding down the fort for us.
	What's up, Barry?
	How are you?
	Hey, good to talk to you, Sean.
	I appreciate what you do.
	I'll make it quick.
	With the uh Trump collusion story now finally starting to fall apart and and all the evidence mounting in this collusion on the other side.
	Is anybody from the mainstream media gonna break ranch and start telling the truth?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think the media is now dug themselves a hole that they can't get out of.
	And they're so married to the Trump Russia collusion story.
	They they they the last thing they ever want to acknowledge is they were wrong, and conservatives had it right.
	But we do have it right.
	Yeah, I can't I can't help but think that if I'm a young journalist looking to make my mark reporting the truth would actually be a novel idea.
	It's a sad thing that we don't know the rest.
	It look, they're in lockstep.
	They have an agenda.
	Their agenda is to destroy Trump.
	Their agenda was first to make sure that Trump never got elected.
	Then after Trump in fact got elected, then their effort was, you know, all in, let's destroy him, and we'll we'll work with the liberal talking point that Russia is is what happened.
	They colluded with Russia.
	Well, there was collusion with Russia, but it was Hillary's collusion with Russia.
	She's the one that paid for Russian Government lies.
	She's the one that, you know, signed off on that idiotic deal to give Russia twenty percent of our uranium.
	So there was Russian influence.
	All right, got to take a quick break.
	When we come back, we'll go over the president and his town hall listening meeting that he had yesterday and the disaster and setup that was on CNN last night and much more.
	But Colton Hobb, a member of the junior ROTC, who shielded classmates in the midst of terror, says he did not get to share his experience.
	CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions, and it ended up being all scripted.
	Colton wrote questions about school safety, suggested using veterans as armed school security guards, but claimed CNN wanted him to ask a scripted question instead, so he decided not to go.
	I don't think that it's going to get anything accomplished.
	It's not going to ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have.
	You know, I could tell you that in addition to all of the sorrow that we're feeling in our community right now, there's also a lot of anger.
	Anger that the police can visit a person dozens of times and not take action.
	Anger that the FBI could get at least two credible tips and not take anger, not take action.
	And one possible solution, which we discussed with Secretary DeVos over lunch, was if a tragedy strikes, can we wait for the first responders to get to the campus four or five or six or seven minutes later?
	And one possible solution, which may not be very popular, would be to have people in the school, teachers, administrators who have volunteered to have a firearm safely locked in the classroom, who is are given training throughout the year.
	There are plenty of teachers that are already licensed to carry firearms.
	Have you have them raise their hands to volunteer for the training?
	And when something like this starts, the first responders are already on campus.
	And if it's not the teachers, you can have people that work on the campus.
	A custodian could be an undercover policeman, someone who works in the in the library, or the or the lunchroom could be an undercover policeman.
	He serves lunch every day, but he also has a firearm at the ready, uh, a guidance counselor.
	If you can't stop it from happening, and with hundreds of millions of guns out there, I don't know if it'll ever be fully stopped, but the challenge becomes once it starts, to end it as quickly as possible.
	And just unfortunately, you can't wait five or six or seven minutes.
	So between having the schools train for lockdowns and possibly having armed personnel, uh staff that are willing to do it.
	I just want to say before we really begin, because I want to hear you, but we're going to be very strong on background checks.
	We're going to be doing very strong background checks.
	Very strong emphasis on the mental health of somebody.
	And we are going to do plenty of other things.
	Again, next week the governors are coming in from most of the states, and we're gonna have a very serious talk about what's going on with school safety.
	Very important.
	And uh we're gonna cover every aspect of it.
	There are many ideas that I have, there are many ideas that other people have.
	And we're gonna pick out the strongest ideas, the most important ideas, the ideas that are gonna work, and we're gonna get them done.
	It's not gonna be talked like it has been in the past.
	It's been going on too long, too many instances, and we're gonna get it done.
	So again, I want to thank you all for being here.
	And I'd like I'd like to hear your story, and I'd also like to uh you have any uh suggestions in the future based on this horrible experience that you've gone through.
	Uh I'd love to have those ideas.
	All right, that was the president in his listening session yesterday, and you heard earlier uh literally a cut where CNN, and they do have a history, as I mentioned earlier today, of stacking questions.
	One guy making the claim that, yeah, they didn't want my real questions and comments.
	And I thought there were a lot of very smart, intelligent people at this listening session with the president yesterday, really thoughtfully, and some of the suggestions I didn't agree with, but many I thought understood the need for security, which is what we have been calling for.
	Uh joining us now, Geraldo Rivera and Jonathan Gillam are with us to discuss and debate this.
	Um I think it was a very smart thing for the president to do.
	He looked uh honestly concerned.
	I think there are simple things that can take place, but I stand by we better secure these schools like we would secure uh any other important building a bank or uh Capitol Hill or wherever we need to secure a building where we have the capability Haraldo of doing it.
	Agree Sean I'm very proud of the President.
	I'm totally in sync with him on this.
	You know, we had our dinner on uh Saturday night at Mar-a-Lago and I broached the idea of the juvenile assault weapons ban.
	It was something the President had not pondered up until that moment, but he was so deeply shaken by what he saw and he visited the hospital and saw these kids all torn up that he made it part of his program along with enhanced background checks along with uh you know people on the no fly list not getting uh access to firearms.
	I think that he is really on the verge of something very important, a pioneering move, a lot like, you know, you wouldn't expect it of President Trump.
	He's such an advocate of the Second Amendment.
	But like Nixon going to China, the unexpected man is the one who's going to make history here.
	And I think, Sean, it's clear that he endorses your plan that I endorse as well, hardening these schools to make them at least as safe as, you know, a jeweler's store, for example.
	of uh all the attacks you know calling uh Dana Lash a murderer and burn her during this town hall the idea that some people that had views CNN didn't want didn't get on the program and I think the broader issue Jonathan Gillam is the police were called to see this guy thirty nine times.
	The FBI got two very distinct warnings about this guy.
	Everything that we wanted or needed to know about him was on social media and again we dropped the ball in a spectacular way.
	This is not see something, hear something, hear something, say something.
	This is hear something, we said something, and nobody listened.
	Yeah, it's been a complete failure on the part of this police department's ability to forward think what somebody who continuously has called of odd behavior could be, you know, possibly could do.
	I think it's a failure on the individual, the part of the individual, the FBI, that dropped the ball about the YouTube video.
	And I've got to be honest with you, I'm disagreeing with Geraldo on this because, look, we can do all the weapons bans that we want.
	We can look at juvenile.
	I've been shooting a gun since I was five years old.
	And we can look at all these ways to limit this or limit that.
	What I'm seeing is a complete failure already is the president's ability.
	And, you know, I'm a supporter of President Trump, but I'm looking at a man.
	The reason I voted on him and supported him and talked about him so much before the election is because he's operationally minded.
	And he came in, for instance, with this skating rink in New York.
	came in saw that there was a problem and quickly got on board and brought in subject matter experts I think you said from Miami uh to look at this act ice rink he got under budget and under time and he got it done.
	What I'm seeing now is typical government speed which we should have immediately reacted because there could be another shooting tomorrow today.
	We need to start looking at the best way to do it, the cheapest way to do it and let's just get it done.
	Let's get people in the schools that can protect it.
	Let's lock this through threat assessments.
	Let's lock the schools down.
	If if George Clooney and Oprah Winfrey and these people want to donate money for 5000 he could have bought 56 schools two metal detectors.
	So these celebrities need to think about that as well.
	We need to get on board and start doing this because so far it's been a week and it's been a complete failure.
	We've got nothing done to secure the schools.
	We've always just talked about you know let's ban this and let's not in the listening session yesterday I thought the number of people in their own way their own version Haraldo supported what you and I support which is you got to have every school with a full set uh full systemic comprehensive security markup.
	We've got to go in and see what where the security vulnerabilities are.
	Then you don't get into any school without the proper identification.
	Doors can't be open unless of course there's security at those doors and then hire doors that yeah exact then hire enough retired policemen, retired military armed so that they can protect in in case of any situation.
	I'm I I I don't know how many teachers are going to actually want to carry uh a gun in their classroom, so I think to have him train professionals to me would be a better idea because let the teachers do what their job is to teach.
	Or the coach or an administrator or a security guard.
	Why not have a security guard in your in your budget and ID and one good gun uh per some scientifically derived number of students?
	I disagree with Jonathan.
	You already have look, you you're talking about the systemic failures of the FBI in terms of checking uh uh you know the leads they had and the local cops in terms of the 39 calls they had.
	But what about the response of the Broward deputies?
	And I love that department.
	I worked uh, you know, I did my pioneering American advice that led to the cops program on TV with the Broward Sheriff.
	But they took an awfully long time to get into that building, even though they were on the property.
	You know, uh, you've got to have uh people who are much more responsive, much more uh hip and aware of the fact that these kids are so precious.
	But Jonathan, my god, uh if you are you in favor of 18, 19, 20 year olds with emotional problems going out and getting all liquored up.
	If you're not, if you if you're in favor of uh kids not drinking until they're 21, then what for God's sakes is wrong with banning uh assault type weapons for uh kids when they're in this uh evolving emotional state when they have all these problems, uh, you know, kids are suicidal.
	This one broke off with this one.
	This one wrote something awful in my yearbook.
	Uh let them grow up before they can buy uh, you know, a uh weapon that can fire uh you know, 30 rounds in in ten seconds.
	I think that it's uh it's time to come to grips with the fact that the president has moved off his comfort zone.
	He sees that this may not solve the problem, but it's a first step, and it certainly would have stopped this Nicholas Cruz from buying the AR-15 that he used to kill these people.
	Not necessarily.
	I mean, look, when I was in the FBI, we did uh gun buys every day.
	You can get guns faster.
	Right now, I could go out in New York City and get a gun illegally faster than I could if I tried to get one illegally.
	They're everywhere.
	That may be true, but you've got to do something.
	And to make the good, the victim, you know, the perfect victim of the...
	It's ridiculous.
	You're doing something.
	You've got to take a I'm not disagreeing with you on this.
	What I'm saying is that, you know, for instance, over in Africa, instead of curing malaria by going and killing mosquitoes, they go out and hand out mosquito nets.
	And it does nothing to stop people from getting malaria.
	It's just a band-aid.
	And you know, if we really want to get into this, we need to start having regulations on video games, on movies from from uh glorifying rape and and killing.
	I mean, that's where a lot of this stuff is is is coming from.
	We should have, you know, there's all kinds of stuff we could do with the mental health care industry.
	But the fact is, what is aggravating me is that the things that can be done to make the school safer right this instant are not being done.
	And in this this discussion that they had with the families, I understand it's a great uh healing thing, it's a great cigar thing.
	You need to have that with subject matter experts such as myself who would do this for free.
	We're gonna spend millions, possibly billions.
	But we do the idea is we do all that.
	That's what President Trump has so admirably laid out.
	We've done it now.
	Oh, woe is us, and he's throwing up your hands, and because you can't fix it with one cell swoop, you don't do anything.
	What Trump has said is he's not gonna do that anymore.
	From now on, he's gonna try.
	He's gonna try his best.
	He's gonna do this, he's gonna do that, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that.
	But I think we all agree one thing.
	If we do what what we agree on, these kids will be safe.
	We can secure every school in America.
	All right, stay right there.
	We'll come back.
	We'll continue.
	Also, uh Geraldo will join us tonight.
	We'll have more on this uh debating on Hannity Nine Eastern.
	We'll be in the main ballroom of CPAC tonight and doing our show live.
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	All right, as we continue, Jonathan Gillam and Geraldo Rivera.
	And you know, one of the things uh that really frustrates me is you know, Geraldo, you always want to have debate and discussion, and and I think look, uh, there are people that I know that are deathly afraid of guns, and my attitude to them is well, you don't have to carry one if you don't want.
	I don't know what you're gonna do if somebody breaks into your house at night.
	I don't think a baseball bat's gonna win.
	But if you're uncomfortable, that's your choice.
	But I believe in freedom, freedom of liberty, and freedom of choice.
	But you know, to watch what they did to uh Marco Rubio and Daniel Lash last night, burn her, she's a murderer, uh, because they don't agree on the gun issue and they prefer mental health, attacking it from the mental health point of view and attacking it through the background check point of view and attacking it from the point of view of securing and and ensuring that every school is safe.
	Uh, I don't think it deserved that kind of attack.
	It seemed like a setup to me.
	Well, I think that you know, you you get into that venue that is a hostel venue.
	I give them credit for going to the hostel venue.
	Uh, my point is everything that you just mentioned, whether it's mental health, whether it's background checks, whatever if you're on the no-fly zone, you don't you don't have access to weapons, whatever it is, use them all.
	Use them all.
	We have done nothing because we're fearful that the little steps we take won't be a cure all.
	I say you've got to start someplace.
	What what President Trump is doing now, I think is the most admirable one of the most admirable things that I have seen him do.
	You will mark my word, you will see an uptick in his uh in his popularity already at 49%, according to Rasmussen.
	When he listened and he showed that compassionate face, when he told me, and I sat as close to him as I sit with you, Sean, a foot or two away, and he told me how shaken he was by the fact that some of these kids had multiple wounds and the and the rounds ripped into their limbs, tearing off part of their limbs.
	He was deeply shaken.
	And remember, we were with Eric and Don Jr., two lifelong gun advocates.
	And you know, this the this is a this is something a catalyst for change.
	This can never happen again.
	Let's adopt the kid's slogan.
	And if they uh if CNN gives a planted question, or the kid is uh uh, you know, uh disgruntled for this or that, forget about all that stuff.
	What we want is our children.
	I've got a sixth grader going into seventh grade.
	I want to know when I drop her at that school that she's gonna come out of the door at 3.15 and she's gonna be uh just as safe as she was when I brought her in there.
	All right, we're gonna continue.
	We we all have that expectation and we should have the assurance that that happens.
	So I don't think there's any disagreement on on the main goal and point there.
	Uh all right, thank you both.
	Uh Geraldo, we'll see you in the main ballroom tonight, nine Eastern Hannity explosive show, nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.
	All right, as we continue, 25 now till the top of the hour.
	We are in the nation's capital.
	Let me play some of this this listening session from yesterday.
	There were some amazing things said.
	One was said by a junior ROTC guy about how they were able to protect Broward students with Kevlar pads.
	Um we've got another individual, Andrew Pollock, his daughter was slain in this Broward school shooting.
	And he talked about how we protect our airports, we protect concert stadiums.
	How many kids need to get shot?
	We gotta fix it, we're gonna fix it.
	And uh, and then I also want to play for you the president, his own words when he described the idea of arming teachers and having armed security in the schools, something that I've been advocating now for a long time.
	Listen to this, then we'll get to your calls on the other side.
	I pulled in teachers, I pulled in kids that weren't in my class.
	There's kids walking around that had no clue where to go, and I was like, if you don't know where your class is, get in mind.
	I just pulled him in.
	We shoved them in the back of the classroom, and me and Colton took these Kevlar mats that we have from our Marks and Kevlar, so hold on, slow down for one second here.
	So you've got all these guys, teachers, students huddled into this classroom together.
	Um you just mentioned Kevlar, so like a material for a bulletproof vest.
	Yes, sir, like the body armor, like body armor.
	You guys had this Kevlar material.
	What did you do with that?
	They're they're big hanging curtains at Kevlar, and he said to me, he was like, Those are Kevlar, we should put them in front of us.
	And I was like, You're a genius, that's a great idea.
	I went and confirmed it with my first sergeant, and me and him started moving and we made a wall in front of all the kids out of the Kevlar pads.
	Um I was on the second floor in that building, texting my mom, texting my dad, texting three of my brothers, and I was never gonna see him again.
	And then it occurred to me that my 14-year-old brother was directly above me in that classroom where Scott Beagle was murdered.
	Scott Beagle got my brother in the class.
	He was the last kid to get back into that class.
	And uh I'm sure a lot of a lot of you have read my texts on the internet, my brother.
	I didn't plan for them to go viral.
	I just wanted to share with the world because no brothers or sisters or family members or anyone should ever have to share those texts with anyone.
	And that's why I'm here.
	I lost the best friend.
	Who's practically a brother.
	Okay.
	And I'm here to use my voice because I know he can't, and I know he's with me.
	Cheering me on to be strong, but it's hard.
	And to feel like this, it doesn't even feel like a week.
	Time has stood still.
	To feel like this ever, I can't.
	I can't feel comfortable in my country knowing that people have, will have, are gonna feel like this.
	I want to feel safe at school.
	You know, senior year and junior year, they're big years for me when I turned my academics around, started connecting with teachers, and I started actually enjoying school.
	And now I don't know how I'm ever gonna step foot on that place again, or go to a public park after school, or be walking anywhere.
	Me and my friends, we get scared when a car drives by here because my daughter has no voice.
	She was murdered last week, and she was taken from us.
	Shot nine times on the third floor.
	We as a country failed our children.
	This shouldn't happen.
	We go to the airport.
	I can't get on a plane with a bottled water, but we leave it.
	Some animal could walk into a school and shoot our children.
	And so it's just not right, and we need to come together as a country and work on what's important, and that's protecting our children in the schools.
	That's the only thing that matters right now.
	Everyone has to come together and not think about different laws.
	We need to come together as a country, not different parties, and figure out how we protect the schools.
	It's it's simple, it's not difficult.
	We protect airports, we protect concerts, stadiums, embassies, the department of education that I walked in today that has a security guard in the elevator.
	How do you think that makes me feel?
	In the elevator, they got a security guard.
	I'm I'm very angry that this happened because it keeps happening.
	9-11 happened once, and they fixed everything.
	How many schools, how many children have to get shot?
	It stops here with this administration and me.
	It's I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sleep until it's fixed.
	And Mr. President, we're gonna fix it.
	Because I'm gonna I'm gonna fix it.
	I'm not gonna rest.
	If you had a teacher with who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly.
	And the good thing about a suggestion like that, and we're gonna be looking at it very strongly, and I think a lot of people are gonna be opposed to it.
	I think a lot of people are gonna like it.
	But the good thing is that you'll have a lot of people with that.
	You know, you can't have a hundred uh security guards in Stoneman Douglas.
	That's a big school, it's a massive school with with a lot of acreage to cover, a lot of floor area.
	And so that would be certainly a situation that is being discussed a lot by a lot of people.
	You'd have a lot of people that'd be armed, they'd be ready.
	They're professionals.
	There may be Marines that left the Marines, left the Army, left the Air Force, and they're very adept at doing that.
	So the idea, yeah, that we can protect our airports after 9-11, and we can protect, you know, sports stadiums and concert stadiums and not have shootings.
	Um I'm not talking about Vegas, obviously, and what happened out there, an outdoor concert.
	But we have the ability to cordon off and protect any area if we put the manpower to it.
	And the idea that we could surround a perimeter of a school with trained professionals after a full threat assessment and make sure that nobody gets into that school that doesn't belong in that school, and they can't get in with anything that represents a weapon of any kind.
	I think it would go a long way to getting rid of these.
	And if the idea is to solve the problem, then let's do that first, because I would think everybody would agree with that first.
	Yes, sir.
	So I have a very simple solution to this uh problem that we have going on in our communities.
	Um there are thousands upon thousands of veterans out there, highly trained veterans, combat veterans.
	I'm a specialized veteran myself.
	We could report to our local county sheriff's department, just like you have volunteer firefighters reporting to the local uh uh county uh firefighter department.
	We could be called upon to go, Randy, we need you at the school from uh Monday through Thursday.
	We need you at the mall, Wednesday through through Thursday.
	We need you at this church on this weekend, and there are thousands upon thousands of veterans that are highly, highly trained that are more than willing to help out and protect our communities.
	And thank you so much for that.
	I think but but even bigger than that, Randy, I think there are jobs available for people that yeah, look, I know friends of mine that are 42 years old retired from the MYPD and and they worked on terrorism task forces, you know, their entire career.
	And and they they want a new career, a new job.
	They also they they got into this work because they want to serve.
	And for them to go out and do full threat assessments and come up with a plan where nobody could penetrate into that school, it's win-win-win-win-win.
	Everybody wins, and we protect our kids, which is the number one goal.
	Anyway, my friend, thank you for all you do, and uh, we appreciate uh your willingness to say, yeah, there's a lot of us that want to continue to surf.
	Shonda is in Austin, Texas, next on the Sean Hannity show.
	Shonda, how are you?
	Hi, Sean.
	Um, this is off the subject of a lot of what you're talking about today with Florida.
	But I listened to you yesterday and called in um late, and I uh was kind of incensed on the things that you were talking about, they were saying about Billy Graham, and it made me realize even more than I had before that I didn't initially support Trump in the primary.
	Um I I supported Marco Rubio and I supported him because of the blue walls.
	Honestly, I wanted to win.
	Um, but I've come to the determination that no matter who won, it was gonna be a narrow victory.
	And Obama had weaponized that government bureaucracy to the point and media, to the point that no one that won was going to be accepted.
	Number one, they didn't think that anyone was going to win.
	But if Rubio had won or admit Ronney, or I'm just throwing names, I don't think that even seasoned politicians and what they deal with with scandal and licious media attacks could deal the way Trump has dealt with what he's had to deal with day in and day out, and it's for him it's just like another day at The office.
	And I feel like other presidencies would have very little in their history and wanted to protect that, and perhaps, you know, not being able to withstand the attacks that I think the left was going to do no matter who was blocked.
	Look, they it's a hundred percent.
	I've never seen such hostility to any one person in my entire life in politics.
	And and look, this is a blood sport.
	I anticipate every election.
	It's bloody, it's brutal.
	It's the same old uh talking points.
	Republicans are racist and sexist and homophobic and xenophobic and Islamophobic and and they hate women and oh my gosh, they have they have binders full of women's resumes and they want to hire them.
	They must be sexist.
	So look, all of that goes into the you know, the rank and file average campaign.
	But now when you're gonna pay the Russians for phony government information from them so they can disrupt the election electoral process, but you're gonna go after the other guy who had no contact with the Russians.
	That's ostensibly what has happened.
	We have all the proof we ever would need that a foreign national pay what literally went to Russia to get lies on another candidate.
	And then they use those lies, disseminated it to the media, even though they didn't verify a thing.
	Well, that's all propaganda.
	That's misinformation, that's distortion, that's character assassination, but that is right out of the playbook of of Liberal Democrats.
	And then to just, you know, make it even worse, the people that are in power at the time.
	Well, well, they're gonna go out there and use that information, the bulk of it, to obtain a Pfizer warrant to get to get to start listening on a Trump associate so they can listen to everybody else in an election year.
	Spy on them.
	Um the thing is they never thought this would happen.
	You're right, but they never thought either that we would be getting to the truth.
	And we're getting to the truth closer every day.
	Thank you, Shonda.
	Mark is in New York City holding down the fort, the all new AM 710 WOR.
	Hey, Sean.
	Hey Mark, what's going on?
	How are you?
	Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
	I'd like to start off by saying my son is currently a sergeant in the United States Marine Corps.
	I like to get that out there whenever I can.
	I bet you're really proud of it.
	He's proudly serving our country.
	The kids are doing incredible for us.
	Well, tell him thank you for us.
	I will.
	Thank you, sir.
	My my quote to you is um because of the frustration my family and a lot of my friends and colleagues are going through.
	We think it's time.
	We love Donald Trump's administration, but we're all feeling the same thing.
	We want Jeff Sessions to either do something or be removed.
	Why aren't people being held accountable?
	It's becoming increasingly frustrating.
	But you gotta you gotta understand where we came from a year ago when we broke the story that oh, Trump Tower might have been surveilled.
	Think of everything that has now happened.
	And now we've come full circle where now the head of the intel committee is now asking top Obama administration officials about what they knew and when they knew it about the dossier.
	Then we've got the uranium one deal, and we have to expose the media lies.
	It's understand look.
	If you want to be a professional athlete, you don't just wake up one morning and say, I'm gonna be a professional athlete.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna be a quarterback, and you become a great quarterback.
	No, you spend years and years and years training and training and training and training.
	A story this big, this complex, um, where so many people lie and are trying to hide things, delete things, acid wash things, destroy their information.
	It becomes, you know, uh it becomes by a multiple of 500,000 that much harder.
	But what we the information we now have, we have changed the entire narrative in the country.
	And when I say to you, you've you've got to be patient because it's not just gonna happen, they're not gonna give it to you.
	We've got to dig it out, and and everything involved in the legal process takes time.
	So, yeah, I know I've I share your frustration, but we're getting closer every day, and you see this story unfolding before your eyes.
	You know, Watergate went on for Years.
	It's it's the way things work, unfortunately.
	Just, you know, I'd ask you to be patient, follow the new developments, try and educate your friends, and there's gonna be a day where you're gonna hear something that says, wow, it really happened.
	Because we're getting that close.
	Anyway, I appreciate your your support and your input.
	I share your frustration, but I understand the process of it all.
	All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
	Uh Hannity tonight will be broadcasting live from CPAC.
	And we have Dana Lash, who was mistreated by CNN last night.
	Also Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, Match Slap.
	Uh also we'll be checking in with Katie Pavlich and Dan Bongino.
	All coming up, nine Eastern.
	Hannity, tonight from CPAC.
	Hope you'll join us, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.

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