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I don't even know where to begin because the information is shocking and more spectacular by the minute and the hour.
And uh we've got a lot of ground to cover today, is just one way to uh say all of this.
We're learning that apparently Comey shared all his information with Mueller and was brought in early in the Comey is the guy that leaked to the Columbia professor to get his buddy Mueller appointed special counsel in the first place.
Comey is the guy that made it possible by writing well, first when he first wrote the exoneration, he's admitting Hillary committed numerous felonies about how she mishandled classified information,
destroyed classified information, how not having her email server in a secure place, how it resulted in foreign entities and agencies uh being able to capture the information and probably the 33,000 emails.
He's the guy.
He was the one that worked with Strunk.
And now it gets worse from there.
And you know, now we've got Strck and Page discussing how to remove the text messages.
We've got five months, critical months of text messages between Peter Strzok and his mistress lawyer girlfriend at the FBI, Lisa Page, on how to remove messages.
Ain't it this it shocks and should shock the conscience of every single person.
By the way, the judicial watch chief is urging sessions to seize FBI computers.
I don't think that's a bad idea at this hour.
I think that's actually a pretty good idea.
Because who knows, God knows how long they're gonna last until somebody gets in There and takes them out.
Um now we've got talk of a secret society and the FBI meeting the day after all of this, and I'm like, you can't make this up in a novel, it's getting so bad.
You're looking at the biggest abuse of power in the history of the United States of America.
And we still don't even have the memo and the memo, I'm told, is the tip of the spear in the tip of the iceberg here, and there's so much more that is going to be coming.
Which shows that we really need to get to the bottom line of all of this because it's the Constitution that is now in play here.
You know, when we first had 10,000 texts, now we know there are 50,000 texts between, you know, Trump hating, Hillary loving Peter Strck and Lovebirds, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are now under review by the office of the inspector general, but we still have the five months of missing text messages.
How did they go missing?
How are they not recoverable?
Later on, we've got Bill Binney's going to join us.
He's he's the guy that has told us after 34 years at the NSA that every text, every email, every phone call is metadata stored.
Philip Haney, who's the author of Say see Something, Say Nothing.
He's another guy with 30 plus years experience and a whistleblower.
And he's the guy that said, Oh, when Obama became president, I was told to destroy all the intel.
He's one of the founding members of the Department of Homeland Security.
So, you know, we've got the FBI losing five months of text messages during the key period when the dossier came out, when Flynn was investigated, when Comey was fired, when the special counsel was appointed, when the president uh said, Yeah, it looks like I was spied upon.
He was.
And we first broke this story almost a year ago.
That's how long this goes on.
And for those of you that have been frustrated, why don't we get to the conclusion?
Because it's not how uh literally they don't want us to get to the conclusion.
They don't want this to unravel the way it's been unraveling here.
They don't want to be caught in their nefarious and illegal activities.
But what you have is, and why this is so profoundly different and so much bigger than Watergate is we have a group of people that are trying to rig and fix pretty much everything.
And it starts with Hillary herself.
I cannot to this day understand why more people were not outraged when Donna Brazil writes a book saying she rigged the primary election.
How is that not huge news?
If I'm a Bernie supporter, I'm apoplectic.
I'm angry.
I'm frustrated.
Now I do have a sidebar that there were people that were frustrated and angry and tried to do something about it.
But that's a different story for a different day.
And now we've got the smoking gun evidence.
And I go back to where we were yesterday with Loretta Lynch.
Now she's in the loop, knowing that in fact Hillary was going to be exonerated and the fix was in.
I'll get to that in a minute.
And then we have Hillary with the dossier.
What is the dossier really all about?
The dossier spending 12 million dollars, Hillary Clinton campaign money funneled through one lawyer, DNC money that she's controlling, according to Donna Brazil, the DNC chair at the time, going to the same lawyer, full of lies, propaganda,
salacious details, unproven, unchecked, never mind unproven, and that is to influence the general election and then being shopped to the news media in coordination with Glenn Simpson and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Okay, so you rigged the primary.
Why not try to rig the general with phony information from Russia?
I thought the very thing the left said that they they hated so much.
And in the process, the only reason you get to remain candidate is because the FBI rigged their investigation into you, and they've got the smoking gun evidence that James Comey, Peter Strck, and now appears others, probably Andrew McCabe.
Then we got Bruce Orr's issues, then we've got Loretta Lynch brought into This and that she knew that it was never going to happen, and the timeline for them is devastating.
No wonder five months of critical text messages disappeared because they're not following any rule of law in all of this.
You know, I agree with Judicial Watch.
They're now urging sessions, seize the FBI computers, do it now.
I mean, you know, ask Paul Manafort, by the way, because FBI investigators seldom hesitate in collecting evidence when when they want it, why not do it now?
At this point, Congress is investigating the Department of Justice.
They'll have n and the FBI.
They will have no communications with them because they are believing at the highest levels in Congress that all of this was abused.
You know, and then we've got this story out today that, you know, while FBI gate, that's the bombshell, one after another exploding, that the man at the center of the worst scandal in the Bureau's history, James Comey, well, he's busy tweeting away because...
You know, Congressman John Ratcliffe tweeted, quote, the thousands of texts that Trey Gowdy and I reviewed today revealed manifest bias among top FBI officials against President Trump, both before and after President Trump was elected.
We know that they hated both Strck and Lisa Page hated him.
You know, F. Trump and the rest of it, the text between them, but the text then talk about Strck and Page referencing a secret society.
What's the secret society?
And a little more than three hours later, the disgraced FBI director, James Comey, appeared to respond to Ratcliffe's tweet with a cryptic message.
Good to read reports of people standing up for what they believe in.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
MLK, which begs the question.
Comey, the chair, was he the chairman of this secret anti-Trump society?
You know, he's so highfalutin, thinks he at the end of the day, him giving Hillary the pass, him giving her the pass meant that she got to continue to run for president.
They cleared the way for her.
If it was Donald Trump, he would have been arrested and charged.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Anyway, you may think back if you remember Comey's testimony, member closely coordinated with the special counsel.
Remember that?
A source close to James Comey told Fox News at the time that the former FBI director sent a testimony had been closely coordinated with Robert Mueller.
Robert Muller didn't have this job, but for James Comey.
I mean, all of this is so incestuous and so inanely corrupt, it should take your breath away in all of this.
I mean, let me just go over some of the more interesting details here because it's almost like a novel being written that you can't believe.
And I'll take, I will say this in terms of vindication, I've been telling everybody the How could the media miss the biggest story of their lifetime?
So much bigger than Watergate, as they've been focused on a phony Russia collusion story.
I mean, it's it's you got the attorney general now.
The messages that the FBI is claiming to have lost are from a critical time in all of this.
The 14th of December 2016 to the 17th of May 2017, the day that the special counsel gets appointed.
Then magically, the next day, they show up again.
Now, remember, and that was when Trump thought that he was being wiretapped, all these other issues coming up.
And James Comey being fired, the special counsel being named.
So the messages missing are from the entire period when all of this is going down.
probably would reveal a lot.
And now the question is, how do we retrieve these text messages?
How do we get them back?
Where is the phone?
Is it metadata stored?
Do they have any backups?
How long is it going to take?
And why does this keep happening?
Lois learner, oops, missing the emails.
Oops, Hillary Clinton, ups, I deleted them.
I bleach bit them, my acid washed them, I broke up my devices.
Oops, Debbie Wasimen Schultz's IT guy has busted up hard drives in his garage.
It all reeks of law breaking conspiracy and obstruction of justice.
And it's laughable they're trying to blame Samsung for all of this and the misconfiguration.
Really?
Samsung?
How about instead of him making excuses, they do their job.
You know, this is all part of a much larger pattern in all of this.
It happens all the time.
You know, the FBI, remember they destroyed the laptops of Clinton AIDS with immunity deals.
Who destroys evidence like that?
Another corrupt deal in the making.
You know, the FBI wouldn't be able to look at possible obstruction.
They destroyed the evidence.
Nobody makes that deal within law enforcement.
And Clinton and Clinton broke the law.
It was plain and simple.
Everybody knew it.
And the only reason she got to continue was because of this cabal of Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, James Comey, Andrew McCabe.
Let's find out what Bruce Orr's involvement in all of this is.
His wife was the one putting that dossier together for Fusion GPS.
He's meeting with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS.
Fusion GPS never corroborated any of the dossiers of false, salacious information.
You know, then you got the text messaging from Strzok and Page that shows them.
Now the attorney general is brought into this.
Now remember, in May, Comey struck another top official started drafting the Clinton exoneration before investigation.
Now Loretta Lynch at that point was meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac.
You know, at the end of June, we still haven't talked to Hillary Clinton at that point, or the key players in that investigation.
And then just days later, Lynch said she'd step aside.
She'd accept the FBI's conclusion.
And then Struck text Page, remember Struck and Page saying we needed an insurance policy.
Now at this point, Strzok is writing, well, the timing, meaning of the meeting with Clinton and Loretta Lynch on the tarmac looks awful.
And then Paige says, yeah, it's a real profile in courage, and she knows no charges will be brought.
That's before they ever interviewed Hillary Clinton.
The fix was in.
It was rigged.
Everything in this case was rigged.
It's it's despicable.
It is a i i we are corrupting the entire constitutional process in this country if this is allowed to go on without major ramifications for the people involved and jail time for these people involved.
All right, I'm gonna try and just take the time and go through this slowly and explain everything to you in light of what we are discovering kind of hour by hour and day by day here.
Now we've there's gotta be a way to get these five crucial months of tax.
Now I know a lot of you on Twitter, you're like, all right, release the memo.
Here's what I've heard about the memo.
Let me tell you what my sources are telling me.
Um there was a letter that was signed by, let's see, good lat, Devin Nunes, and Trey Gowdy that was going to be hand delivered to the Department of Justice.
Then the Republican Party in caucus session decided, apparently unanimously, that no, we're not going to the FBI, we're not going to the Department of Justice.
We're investigating the Department of Justice.
We're investigating what has gone on here, especially in light of the struck page memos and the missing critical five months we've got here.
It happened with Lois Lerner two years before we ever got those emails.
Oh, we can't find them.
Hillary's 33,000 deleted emails, acid wash, bleach bit, uh breaking with hammers with devices, no SIM cards, and then of course, broken up hard drives and Debbie Washed them and Schultz's IT guy.
I guess the lesson here is, and don't quote me, if you're in trouble, break everything.
Destroy everything.
Get rid of everything.
Now, forensic people, really smart people are telling me there are ways to recover this.
It took two years to get Lois Lerner's emails back.
But the reason they're covering up is because what you have is an attempted coup.
What you have is an attempt to allow the tools of the intelligence, those powerful tools to be used to influence a presidential election, coupled with a bought and paid-for phony Russian propaganda dossier.
And then it was used also in the court system to spy on a presidential opposition party, an opposition candidate, and an incoming administration and a president-elect.
This makes Watergate look like, you know, stealing a Snickers bar from your local candy store.
It's that big, it's that corrupt, it's that deep, it's that profound.
It should be to everybody.
And I don't care if you're a liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, you should care.
Because they've shredded the Constitution.
They've shredded the Fourth Amendment.
And the deep state thought they knew better than the American people.
Now it's coming.
America's chickens are coming home to roost.
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There's so much to get to here.
We've got a history.
I'm not sure if I ought to end up going through all of this, but the history of Comey sharing memos with Muller and I'm telling you right now, this is stinks to high heaven.
And I want to go through this a little bit more slowly, especially in light of now we have Strzok and Page discussing how to get rid of their text.
Um this is problematic.
Because now you're talking about full-on obstruction of and probably destruction of evidence, which is part of a pattern of Obama administration officials from Lois Lerner and you know the officials that were leading the charge, you know, unfairly going after conservatives with using the power of the IRS in that case, and the IRS say, well, the emails are lost because of a system crash.
Now they're blaming Samsung in this particular case.
Every time the walls are closing in on anybody Obama administration related, just key evidence just seems to magically disappear at just the right time.
You know, when it keeps happening, you know, it defies logic to believe this crap.
And it is a bunch of crap, and it's a bunch of lies.
And, you know, there's what we're talking about here is this is their go-to MO.
When they are cornered, they destroy.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the IT aid scandal with the, you know, the smashed hard drives in the garage.
Of course, the aide's lawyer denies it, but okay.
Then you got uh these newly released text messages, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Hillary loving, Trump hating, you know, individuals, Lisa Page is the counsel working closely with Andrew McCabe.
They're the three that talk about an insurance policy.
God forbid if Donald Trump wins the election.
I think we now know what the insurance policy is.
And then we learn from the text messages yesterday, you know, that before they even interviewed Hillary Clinton that Loretta Lynch knew there was not going to be any type of charges brought against Hillary Clinton.
And then you add to that what she did, which was so wrong, meeting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton, but all you can conclude here is that there was a circle of individuals that decided that Hillary Clinton had the right to be the Democratic Party's choice for president.
Because if the rule of law were equally applied to Hillary, she violated numerous laws and committed numerous felonies.
Not the least obstruction of justice, destroying subpoenaed emails, 33,000, acid washing, bleach pit, mishandling classified information, destroying classified information.
You see how it's all beginning to tie together here.
This is all this House of Cards is now in the process of crumbling.
And I know it's taken a long time, and I know it gets confusing for a lot of people.
I'm I'm studying this full time, and I'm telling you I can get confused in the middle of this.
And I'm doing my my best to make sure that everybody can fully completely grasp and understand it, and reading everything possible so I can break it down so we can understand here.
They knew Hillary Clinton wouldn't be prosecuted for the crime she committed because they put the fix in.
Struck, call me, exonerating before investigating.
Apparently, Loretta Lynch is in the loop.
Lisa Page is in the loop, and it appears McCabe is in the loop.
All right, so all of those people now, as I've been saying, all these people need to be fired.
And then they need to be investigated.
And then I would imagine charges need to be brought in these cases.
That's what that's what I'm suggesting to everybody here.
Back in May, remember it was struck and other top FBI officials writing the exoneration statement.
They hadn't Interviewed Hillary or 17 other key witnesses in the case.
I've never heard of an exoneration letter being written before the investigation is even begun for the most part.
It means it's rigged.
It means the fix is in.
Now we learned yesterday, the Attorney General Loretta Lynch meeting Bill Clinton on the Tarmac 40-minute meeting.
They weren't talking about their grandchildren for 40 minutes at this crucial moment in this timeline here.
They were talking about exonerating Hillary so that she didn't get arrested before the general election at that point.
Because she was already pretty much had the, well, we knew the fix was in.
Now we know that the fix was in from the beginning.
And then Lynch also told Comey, hey, don't call this investigation an investigation.
Call it a matter.
You see how it all begins to tie together.
And then days later, when Lynch said she would step away from the email investigation, she says, and this is a key moment.
She would accept whatever the FBI's conclusion is.
Because she had the right to override that.
All right, so now you got Comey and Strzok writing the exoneration.
Now you got the attorney general signing off on the deal that they exonerate Hillary, and then we learn that it's a profile encourage of Loretta Lynch to uh it was bad timing, though, her meeting Bill Clinton on the tarmac.
But it was a profile encouraged considering she knew that there wouldn't be any charges brought against Hillary.
That's July 1st of 2016.
They didn't interview Hillary Clinton until the 4th of July weekend.
It all was all determined in advance.
It was a dog and pony show.
The fix was in.
Now think about the consequences.
What if you fixed a race in horse racing?
Isn't there big consequences for fixing races?
What if there's point shaving for betters in basketball games or football games?
You ever hear about those scandals?
Well, what if the fix is in to allow somebody that should have been indicted and likely put in jail?
You put the fix in with the highest ranking law enforcement officials in the country, the AG and the FBI director to allow one candidate to break laws they cover up for her, this individual to allow that candidate to defeat the candidate that all of them are on record hating.
And then in the process of all of this, you ignore she rigged the primary election, you fixed her illegal activities, then she buys a phony Russian dossier, and then the phony Russian dossier designed to influence the general election,
and then the dossier full of lies is used to get a Pfizer warrant to spy on the opposition party in the lead up to the election and set a trap for the president elect and those around him after the election.
And you're thinking, Hannity, you've just jumped the shark.
All of that now is provable.
All of that happened in the United States of America.
And if Lisa Page, for example, if Strzok and Paige and Lynch all knew charges weren't going to be recommended against Clinton, you've got to imagine that Mr. Insurance Policy discussion Andrew McCabe himself that he knew Hillary was going to go free.
Only people that didn't know it were us.
I guess we're the suckers in this game.
Because we're the ones that believe in free and fair elections.
We don't think the top people in our Department of Justice in our FBI are going to betray us this way and put the fix in this way.
But that's what's happened.
We also need to know what Rod Rosenstein's role in all of this is.
But if you're counting the characters here, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, why are they still working for the FBI?
Why is Andrew McCabe still working for the FBI?
I don't care if he's retiring in March.
Fire him now.
And then it raises questions about Bruce Orr.
He's meeting with Fusion GPS before and after the election.
His wife Nellie is literally one of the people hired by Fusion GPS to put the salacious phony Russian propaganda dossier together.
Why are they still working?
Why is Bruce Orr still working?
Where's Rod Rosenstein?
I want to know if Rod Rosenstein.
I want to know whether or not he extended the Pfizer warrant when he got into a position of power because of Jeff Session's recusal and all of this.
And then the message between Strzok and Paige and talks about a change to Comey's Clinton exoneration letter.
Now remember the statement and the exoneration before investigation originally referenced Clinton's emailing President Obama when she was, quote, on the territory.
In other words, she was overseas.
And she is emailing on a private server, Barack Obama, the president.
Now the part that mentioned Obama was then altered to say a quote, senior government official.
Okay, Obama does classify as a senior government official.
But he was the president of the United States, so Obama had to have known Clinton was using a private email server, which he denied.
So now he's up to his eyeballs in this.
And in terms of other developments, we've got Republican efforts to release the memo.
You got to keep pressuring your members of Congress.
Release the memo.
Stay on Twitter, Facebook, and all of the and go out there.
By the way, I don't, except for tweeting out aspects of my show, I'm not communicating anymore on social media after we have.
How many times have we been hacked now?
I mean, too many to count.
Or what'd you say?
It really takes my voice away.
First of all, say first of all.
First of all.
What's the matter?
You sick today?
You're going to miss me tomorrow.
Oh, I just ordered you to stay home tomorrow.
Let's see.
Okay.
I said you must stay home tomorrow.
It's not an option to come in to work for you.
To me more is staying home.
Oh, is that who you're calling yourself?
Yeah.
Sounds more like a seal to me.
So we've been hacking.
And now and now the Turkish, whoever this band of Turkish hackers have been out there hacking everybody.
It's actually pretty serious.
I mean, this cyber warfare that they're waging against people.
And I'm really I'm really it's it's shocking how little Facebook and Twitter is doing.
You explain it in more detail so we can understand.
Yeah, let me get into greater detail so that the universe cannot hear a word.
First of all.
Oh, all right.
Well, we'll I'll stop being mean.
Everyone's gonna say this is mean.
All right, so the Republicans are demanding the release of the four-page.
We need the release of the memo.
And I'm heard it's gonna shock the conscience.
And the release of the memo, by the way, is only the tip of the spear there, too.
And now you also have to ask another question.
Where is your media been?
A year chasing a rabbit around a track of a false narrative, a false story with breathless and hysterical reporting that came to nothing.
Nothing.
There's never been any Trump Russia collusion in this.
But there is Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies in this, all designed to influence an election.
And that phony lying document she paid for used as a predicate to and as they as the excuse to get a FISA warrant.
At court was lied to with Russian lies that Hillary paid for.
It's so corrupt.
It's one of the biggest scandals in American history, and our colleagues in the media missed the whole thing.
It's gonna be interesting to see.
And they can't admit they're wrong now.
They're so they're so married to their own phony narrative.
You know, words like shocking, jaw dropping, alarming, shredding the Constitution.
People will go to jail.
That's all the stuff that I hear about those that have seen the memo.
Why isn't it out, Hannah?
It's we're pushing to get it out.
My sources are telling me probably not until next week, but maybe this week.
That's what they're telling me.
And I'm I'm talking to people, I'm pushing it every day.
There are people in the House leadership, they won't even respond anymore to me.
Because I've literally I've sent texts to Paul Ryan.
He will not respond anymore.
He's probably like, oh, telling people, get Hannity off my back.
He's a pain in my ass.
I don't care if I'm I want the truth.
We need to see the memo.
Release the memo.
Find the text messages.
Do your jobs.
It's unbelievable.
We need to know the truth about this abuse of power.
The weaponization of the powerful tools of intelligence, the abuse of FISA warrants, and how the Clinton bought and paid for phony dossier was used to spy on the Trump campaign.
You know, call 202-224-3121.
Call your members of Congress, although half of them are home.
You know, when you look at Clinton fixed the primary, I mean it's I I just keep telling you.
You know, I I don't want to pat this is not about patting myself on the back.
Everything that we have been reporting since last year has now turned out to be true.
And it's even worse than we thought.
And there's still so much more to come.
And there's so many different investigations we're involved in now.
I mean, it's hard to keep them straight.
Now, this is only about the dossier in the email server scandal.
And trying to fix, you know, abusing Pfizer warrants and trying to fix an election and covering it all up.
And how corrupt the highest members of our intelligence community and our DOJ and our FBI are.
But this doesn't even touch uranium one.
And that may turn out to be a much bigger scandal when all said and done.
So much happening.
So much to get to, so little time.
All right, we've got New Gingrich coming up today.
We've got our experts, Bill Binny, Bill Binney and uh Phil Haney are gonna join us today.
Also, Jim Jordan stops by today, and much more.
All right, fighting harder than ever to get to the truth, and we're making progress together, and full vindication is uh on its way, and I I want the memo released.
We deserve the memo is the beginning.
For some of you, you think the memo is just the end.
The memo no new new new new.
I don't want you to get your expectation the memo will show widespread abuse of FISA, surveillance, and other issues, and it will name names.
Beyond that, we've got a long way to go from there.
But it's full vindication, that I can tell you.
All right, we got Newt Gingrich, we got Bill Binney, we got Phil Haney, we got Jim Jordan and Steve Ronneback is back.
He lost his son three years ago yesterday to a dreamer.
We'll continue.
We learned today in in the thousands of text messages that we reviewed that perhaps they may not have done that.
There's certainly a factual basis to question whether or not they acted on that bias.
We you're we know about this insurance policy that was referenced in trying to prevent uh Donald Trump from becoming president.
We learned today about information that after in the immediate aftermath of his election that there may have been a secret society of folks within the Department of Justice and the FBI to include Page and Struck that would be working against him.
I'm not saying that actually happened, but when folks speak in those terms, uh they need to come forward to explain the context with which they use those terms.
Uh Congressman Gowdy, do you want to expound on the secret society idea?
Sure, I wish I could.
I wish I'd been the one who either set that sent that text or received it.
You have this insurance policy in the spring of 2016, and then the day after the election, the day after what they really really didn't want to have happen, there's a text exchange between these two FBI agents, these two supposed to be objective, fact-centric FBI agents saying perhaps this is the first meeting of the secret society.
So, of course, I'm gonna want to know what secret society are you talking about, because you're supposed to be investigating objectively the person who just won the electoral college.
Congressman Gowdy, with regard to these new texts and the idea that there could be a special counsel, a second special counsel requested to look into this.
How are you pursuing that?
Well, these texts are incredibly important, Marvel for a number of reasons, uh both what's there and what's not there.
So lay aside this glaring five-month gap in text that the world's premier law enforcement agency somehow missed.
Lay that aside.
What we have seen, what Johnny and I saw today was a text about not keeping text.
We saw more manifest bias against President Trump all the way through the election into the transition.
And I saw an interesting text that Director Comey was going to update the president of the United States about an investigation.
I don't know if it was a Hillary Clinton investigation because remember that had been reopened in the fall of 2016, or whether it was the Trump investigation.
I just find it interesting that the head of the FBI was going to update the President of the United States, who at that point would have been President Obama.
All right, that was Trey Gowdy and Congressman Ratcliffe.
And what what is the secret society within the DOJ and the FBI that they're talking about that convened after the election?
Now we have more uh Strck and Page uh text messages, and then of course the five missing months during the the key period of time when we'd want to know things.
Now we're beginning to put together a scenario here.
Remember the first batch of struck and and page uh text messages, they go on to say, I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office, we believe Andrew McCabe, that there's no way he, meaning Trump gets elected, but I'm afraid we cannot take that risk.
It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're forty.
Okay, now we put that together with the text message that came out yesterday.
And in one exchange, Strzok and Page are talking back and forth, and they're specifically discussing Loretta Lynch's announcement that she's gonna accept the FBI's decision on the Clinton email investigation.
And uh anyway, then the story about Bill Clinton meeting Loretta Lynch on the tarmac comes up and struck Text Page, uh, the timing looks like hell.
And then uh she writes, This is awful timing, and a later exchange, she adds it's a real profile encouraged, and she knows no charges will be brought.
Now we already know that Strzok and James Comey were writing an exoneration of Hillary months before they em ever investigated Hillary Clinton.
And if you look at the timeline of that text that I just mentioned, well, that was July first.
Hillary Clinton wasn't interviewed till the weekend of the fourth of July, three days later.
And then this gap of we have a five month gap in oops, they're missing.
Oops, they're gone.
Oops, we can't find them.
Well, at that time, very key things happened.
The dossier happened.
The Flynn uh interview happened.
Uh, we know that Comey was fired at that time.
Special counsel Muller was appointed May the 17th, and all of a sudden the text pick up again on May eighteenth.
So we lost five months of text messaging.
They ramped up their investigation after Trump won the nomination.
Now we're hearing about a secret society meeting the day after the election, and Trump actually won.
And the FBI edited out communication between President Obama and Secretary Clinton and Comey's draft July 5th exoneration statement.
Why wouldn't they let the public know that?
And the attorney j had the attorney general, had Peter Strzok, had a James Comey, had a Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe all know that they were never going to bring charges in Hillary's email investigation.
Joining us now with his insight, former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor New Kingrich, um there's a lot to absorb here, but as the historian, I've got to ask you to to look at this from the Watergate perspective.
You know, we found our eighteen and a half uh eighteen and a half minute gap apparently, and it's a five-month gap of text messages.
Look, this this whole thing, you know, you couldn't write a novel like this because it wouldn't be believable.
If if you believe that the text they were sending each other was accurate and candid, they are there's a smoking gun, first of all, that they believe that the attorney general knew that Clinton would not be charged with anything before she was interviewed, which may explain why the interview was not under oath because the whole thing was a charade.
It also suggests to you that when the attorney general met with President Clinton on that airplane in Arizona, they both probably already knew that they were going through a dance, but nothing was gonna come of it.
You now have, I mean, the this idea of four and a half months, you know, part of what I don't understand is uh Hillary Clinton's people had to take a hammer and bleach in order to try to make sure they couldn't find information.
Surely somewhere, either the NSA or the FBI or somebody is gonna be able to track down all of these text messages.
Um there's almost beyond belief that the key players happen to lose four and a half months of text messages.
Wait a minute, but but it happened with Lois Lerner.
Lois learners was gone for two years, and then we found them.
Hillary Clinton deleted thirty-three thousand subpoenaed emails, and then she acid washed the hard drives with blee spleach pit, and then she had one of her, you know, employees smashing any mobile devices with hammers.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz's IT guy, well, he had broken smashed hard drives in his garage, government hard drives.
It seems like this is now the go-to option.
Just destroy everything.
Well, and and what that, as I've said before, uh talking to you both on radio and TV.
This is clearly by any plausible standard, the most corrupt senior Justice Department and senior FBI we have ever seen in American history.
Uh and it's frightening.
I mean, here you had the people who are supposed to enforce the law, who are engaged in a conspiracy to undermine the new president to protect the Democratic nominee.
It seems to me they're not going to possibly avoid having an independent council go into this whole thing.
And that you're going to have Comey at risk, you're going to have remember the deputy who they're referring to, whose office they were meeting in, his wife had been a candidate for the st for the state senate, and I believe got $900,000 in donations from the Democrats.
So you have a whole issue there of whether he should have, at a minimum, recused himself from anything involved in this because that's patent obvious by you know bias involved.
Um every time you turn around in this case, something new comes out, and it's it's ironically, after all their attacks on Clinton on uh Trump, uh all of the real evidence is coming out about the Democrats, and you d you'll notice one of the texts that was not lost was the one where Stuck says, you know, I really don't want to do the Mueller thing because I I know as the guy who's been the deputy.
Yeah, there's nothing happening.
There's nothing there's nothing there.
There's no there.
I mean, well, what about the fact that this is exact what do you make of this secret society that they're discussing discussing here, and they're discussing Strzok and Page how to remove text messages before the text messages went missing.
In other words, they have a text out there about about eliminating the tax.
That sounds like obstruction to me.
Well, certainly, and then Ann, what you have to ask yourself is um whether or not there was ever a true secret society.
Who did they think was in the secret society?
Do they think that the deputy head of the FBI was and it was his office they were talking in?
Did they think Comey was?
He's the guy who basically exonerates Hillary Clinton and refuses to ask her questions under oath.
I mean, just go down the list.
And and you have to say to yourself that there there is more than enough here already to justify a full-blown investigation and to justify bringing in an independent counsel.
Here's what I need to ask you.
This is a very important question.
Now, this is now you're right, you couldn't write this in a novel.
But you have Hillary Clinton, we now know.
Donna Brazil told us she rigged the primary election.
Bernie Sanders supporters had no shot.
It was rigged from the get-go.
Then you've got now evidence that in fact Comey and Strzok, and it looks like Loretta Lynch is in the loop somehow, and I've got to believe Andrew McCabe, that the fix is in on the email server investigation by them.
And it's profound because they're writing the exoneration before the investigation, which, you know, they didn't even interview Hillary till July 4th.
They're doing this in May.
And and they even take away the legal standard, gross negligence out of it.
They take the foreign entities actually hacked into Hillary's email server.
Then you've got Hillary and her campaign paying twelve million dollars, funneling it through a lawyer.
She's running the DNC according to Donna Brazil.
That money's funneled through the same lawyer to produce a dossier with Russian propaganda and lies so that they can kind of rig the general election.
Now, then that phony dossier is used to get a Pfizer warrant to spy on an opposition candidate, uh presidential candidate, in an election year.
And then they spy on the candidate, and then they spy on a president electing his team.
All of which is illegal, and especially fundamentally, she was guilty as hell in terms of mishandling classified top secret special access program information and destroying such.
All of that, had she not gotten the pass from Comey and company, she wouldn't have been the nominee, and it would have put the party in chaos.
So they made a Decision to put her above the law.
I mean, I you can't write that and and what I'm saying is indisputable at this point.
Well, I look, I think you're exactly right.
I think what you had here is is a decision.
And this goes back to the entire corruption of the Clinton system, the corruption of the foundation, the sheer scale of money that these people were engaged in.
Um, the degree to which they were willing to do things, they basically believed that there was no law, as far as Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton were concerned, and they had an entire network of people who came to share the same belief.
And I mean that's that's the conclusion I reached is that this this was a a degree of absolute not even thinking about the law.
They thought that their job was to run America, and if that meant that they had to break the law and they had to try to destroy Trump, and they had to do a variety of other things, they were gonna do it.
And I also agree with you, I think the person in some ways who has the the greatest grievance here uh has to be Bernie Sanders because it is so clear as he actually accepted it and went along with it.
All right, well, stay right there.
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, his best selling book, Vengeance.
All right, as we continue, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, as we now continue our investigation into what has now become a colossal mess.
Um the danger here, I want you to I want you to put your his historian hat on.
Watergate was a third rate break in to get opposition information, steal information in the course of a presidential campaign, and then it was about a cover-up.
Now we're talking about weaponizing the powerful tools of intelligence and lying in the process using bought and paid for Russian lies to go after a presidential candidate, influence the electorate, and basically try and steal an election with that phony information, and in the process, have the government do the spying and the leaking and and be involved in all of this.
How much worse on a scale compared to Watergate is this?
Well, they're not in they're not at all comfortable.
I mean, Watergate was in some ways part of the old order in which Nixon felt like he was constrained by the law.
And ultimately the people around him were constrained by the law.
These are people who are blatantly rigging the game at every level, and who I think had had Clinton won, we would have learned nothing of this scandal.
And it should scare people.
I mean, you're talking here about elements of the Justice Department, elements of the Federal Bureau of Investigation deciding that they would break the law in order to stop the American people's choice from becoming president.
Now think think about the meaning of that.
This is totally different, I think, than the Watergate problem.
This this is really uh a very profound threat, because if we don't get to the bottom of this, and if we don't make it clear that you see you simply can't do things like this, we run the risk of eventually over time,
people deciding that they're just going to randomly enforce the laws they care about, and we'll begin to resemble one of those third world dictatorships where the power of the state props up the rich and the powerful and crushes dissent, uh, and uh Venezuela being a current very painful example.
And I think that uh this is truly I I know of no occasion in American history.
In fact, uh I'll challenge our audience to email you if they come up with one.
I know of no occasion in American history where we have seen the power of the government and the power of the police forces used the way they have been used here.
This is the biggest political scandal in my lifetime, and maybe even when all is said and done in the history of the country.
You've had the left-wing media in this country fixated on Trump Russia collusion.
They have ignored the biggest story of their lives.
They are complicit in a lot of ways because you would think that there are some journalists now looking at all this saying, Oh my God, what has happened?
Where are they in this in this moment when you would think their better cells are called to greatness?
Sir, thank you.
Uh, we'll see you on TV.
Uh, I think tonight, thank you, former Speaker of the House, New Kingrich 800 941 uh Shauna's a toll free telephone number.
We have Congressman Jim Jordan, he's been railing about all of this.
Uh also Bill Binney will be joining us and Phil Haney and uh how can we recover this information?
Steve Ronaback, who lost his son Grant Ronneback, is going to talk about the immigration debate and much more straight ahead.
A couple of interesting emails.
One was November 14, 2016, right after the election, where uh Lisa Page texts Strack and says, God, being here makes me angry.
Lots of high flute and national security talk.
Meanwhile, we have our task ahead of us.
Now, our is capitalized.
I mean, are they talking about implementing their plan?
So that that's in November.
And then on May 19th, again, we've got a big gap, five-month gap.
And now the text began again.
This is two days after Mueller Mueller was just appointed special counsel.
Strzok writes, they're t they're talking back and forth about their futures of the FBI and the recent appointment in Mueller.
They're talking about you know what what they ought to do.
And it indicates that they're considering joining that Mueller special counsel investigation.
Strzok says, quote, you and I both know the odds are nothing.
If I thought it was likely, I'd be there no question.
I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern, there's no big there there.
In other words, Peter Strack, who was the FBI deputy assistant director of the counterintelligence division, the man who had a plan to do something because he just couldn't abide Donald Trump being president, is saying that in his gut sense is if there's no big there when it comes to the Mueller special counsel investigation.
Doesn't know if he really wants to join that because his gut sense is there's no big there there.
I think that I think that's kind of jaw drive.
All right, 24 now till the top of the hour 800-941 Sean.
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By the way, those of you wondering, well, how are we ever going to retrieve the five months of missing text?
We'll check in with our security experts, Bill Benny and Phil Haney uh coming up later in the program today, joining us now.
He's been amazing in trying to chip away at this now what is a huge massive scandal.
Um is Congressman Jim Jordan of the Great State of Ohio.
Um, did you hear Trey Gowdy and Congressman Ratcliffe talking about a secret FBI society?
What the hell?
What is it?
Well, uh who who knows?
Uh that's why we gotta, you know, we gotta talk to Strzok.
We gotta talk to Page, and hopefully we'll gotta find these five months of missing text messages.
But you know what's funny too is Sean, what Senator Johnson was saying, that there's no there, what Peter Strzok was texting back to Lisa Page, yet he still joined the team.
He still went on, you know, he doesn't think there's anything there, he doesn't want to do it, but he does.
Now, why does he do that?
Is it to implement their quote insurance policy that they talked about before the election when they were trying to put their finger on the scale and help Secretary Clinton be the next president and hurt Donald Trump?
Is it part of their insurance policy that he still goes on the team even though he doesn't think anything there that there's anything there?
That's what we need to find out as well.
What is this insurance policy that they've referenced in previous texts all about?
Okay, I think though, if we go to the insurance policy and then take it a a step further, I think we're beginning to understand.
Now, one other thing to add to that, we've got now Strzok and Page discussing how to remove text messages uh before the text went missing.
So I think I think that's pretty pretty interesting.
But you're right.
If we go to the original text message, I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office.
That has to be Andrew McCabe, that there's no way he gets elected, meaning Trump.
But I'm afraid that we can't take that risk.
It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40.
And then what we received yesterday, I think is very, very clear.
And remember, they didn't interview Hillary Clinton until July 4th.
Peter Strzok and James Comey were writing the exoneration back in early May.
Yep.
And and they took out the gross negligence standard.
They took out the foreign entities, had hacked and gotten the emails and top secret special access program information.
Anyway, and then we had the whole issue being exposed of Loretta Lynch meeting uh Bill Clinton on the tarmac.
Now, this new text comes in.
It's dated July 1st, three days before they interview the FBI interviews Hillary Clinton.
But the exoneration's already written.
And so anyway, Peter Strzok writes Lisa Page, the timing looks like hell.
Yeah, it's awful timing, she says, and then adds It's a real profile encouragement since she knows no charges will be brought.
So Strzok knows it and Page knows it.
Loretta Lynch, they're saying knows it.
And I got to assume McCabe knows it.
Yeah, the top people knew it.
Uh you know, the Clinton investigation was the fix was in from the get go.
That's what all the evidence suggests.
They went through the motions to make it look like they ran a real investigation.
And then you have you have the text messages during the campaign that say we can't take the risk that Donald Trump's going to be elected by the American people.
We need an insurance policy.
You have the text message of the day after the election.
Now we need to implement our plan, Lisa Page says to Peter Strzok, and then you have this text message says, even though there's no there, and even though I don't want to join Muller's team, I'm going to.
He went ahead and did it.
Why did he do it?
Seems logical to say he did it to implement their plan, whatever that was.
Well, doesn't it suggest when they're discussing, you know, how they're going to remove the text messages and get rid of them?
Well, doesn't that sound like an effort to obstruct justice at some point and hide something?
Sure sounds like it, but we'll have to see.
What we need to find out is these uh these five uh five months of missing messages, which uh, you know, and I know you talked about this yesterday.
Well, where where are the phone where are the phones?
Where are the physical phones?
I assume the Justice Department still has it.
We don't have an answer.
I talked with Senator Johnson's staff people today who are great staff people and said, Do we know where the phones are?
They said we don't, but we're gonna find out.
So does the FBI have them?
Does the Justice Department have them?
Did they give them back to the carrier?
I don't know.
Let's hope they have those devices, the actual physical phones themselves, so we can figure out what's there.
And let's hope that we're also going to, and I believe that uh talking with Senator Johnson's team, they're gonna they're gonna ask the carriers to give the information and help us figure out where these missing five months are.
All right, so this gets even more strange because while one FBI scandal after another is being exposed here, and I'm not talking about rank and file.
I'm talking about people like McCabe and and Comey and Strzok and Paige and uh and a bunch of others, looks like Brad Rosenstein.
I want to know his role in all of this.
Um it appears so last night Congressman Ratcliffe tweets out the thousands of text that Trey Gowdy and I reviewed today reveal revealed manifest bias among top FBI officials against President Trump.
The text between Strzok and Paige referenced a quote, secret society.
Well, a little more than three hours later, uh disgraced ex-FBI director James Comey appeared to respond to Ratcliffe's tweet with a cryptic message saying, Well, good to read reports of people standing up for what they believe in.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy, quoting MLK, which begs the question was Comey the chairman of this FBI secret anti-Trump Society.
We don't know, but we do know, like like you said, Sean, there are top people uh whose names keep coming up.
Why did Jim Baker, general counsel of the FBI, get reassigned just four weeks ago?
Uh Andrew McCabe's name comes up all the time.
Andrew McCabe, who him and his wife met with Terry McCaulliff while his wife's running for state Senate, he met with Terry McCulliff at the same time Terry McCullough's under investigation, for goodness sake.
Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Bill Precept, Jim Baker, and Lisa Page, these key names keep coming up all the time, and then you get some context to it when you start looking at all these text messages back and forth between Miss Page and Mr. Strzok.
So all these people, we've interviewed Mr. McCabe, we've interviewed Mr. Rabicki, who's chief of staff at the FBI when this was all happening, but we need to get to these other people and find out the case.
Well, how would this keep happening?
I mean, Lois Lerner's e emails were missing for two years.
Hillary Clinton was subpoenaed by Congress to hand over 33,000 emails.
She deletes them, then she acid washes and bleach bits the hard drive, then she has a somebody that works for her, bust up the devices with hammers.
Uh then you got Debbie Wasserman Schultz's IT guy with busted up hard drives in his garage.
You know, at some point here, there's a pattern.
And you know, what w what are we going to do and how quickly are we going to hire the people that can recover this information forensically?
Yeah, we're gonna do all we can, but but you're right.
I mean, it maybe if it was just the IRS, you could say, you know, you expect incompetence at the IRS.
But remember this.
No, we found those emails two years later.
Yeah, they found them, and then they destroyed the backup tapes at the facility in Martinsburg, West Virginia, and and and John Coskinen didn't tell us about it when he testified, by the way.
But remember, this is Peter Strzok, deputy head of counterintelligence at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
This is not Lois Lerner, some bureaucrat in the IRS, who who did a b who has to plan to come after us, understand, but this is Peter Strzok, deputy head of counterintelligence at the FBI.
And suddenly five months in a critical time period, December 14th, 2016, when all the unmasking is taking place, when there's all this this back and forth between the intelligence community and pre president elect Trump, when all that's happening, that's when it starts, December 14th, and all just so happens to end all the time.
Okay, let's talk about 2017.
Let's talk about all the events that occurred after that day, because this is the critical time period.
The timeline matters here.
Sure does.
And if we look at the timeline, what do we have?
Well, that's when the Steel dossier comes out, uh and is released by BuzzFeed.
That's when Flynn is interviewed.
Flynn's interviewed by Peter Strzok.
Peter Strzok has an anti Trump bias.
And you know, I I would think that General Flynn's lawyers have to be reconsidering this guilty plea to lying to the FBI, especially because we I believe that in fact they knew the answers to questions ahead of time because they had illegally surveilled and uh uh unmasked and then leaked raw intelligence, so they knew the answers if either he missed or remembered or lied, they would have known, and that's why they got him there, and then they threatened to go after his son, from what I can gather.
And then January eleventh, Comey is fired.
We don't have the text messages then.
January twenty-four I'm sorry, May 17th, uh is when the special counsel is appointed.
Comey's fired May 9th, and then all of a sudden, so we hadn't seen one text from December what, sixteenth.
I'm sorry, December 14th of 2016 to May 17th, the day that special counsel Muller is appointed.
Doesn't that seem a little odd and and convenient to you?
No, it for that to be a coincidence, you gotta I mean you gotta be kidding me.
And and remember the broader framework, and I think this is important.
Chuck Schumer, the head of the Democrat Party, Chuck Schumer says on January third, twenty seventeen, just a few days before President Trump is going to be inaugurated as the next president.
Chuck Schumer says, when you get in a fight with the intelligence community, they have six ways to Sunday to get back at you.
So is all these deleted text messages might they have something to do with the six ways to Sunday?
The intelligence community is trying to attack and target President Trump.
Might it have something to do with that?
Did they suddenly disappear because it was it was how they were targeting and trying to get back six ways to Sunday to the president elect of the United States, and then after the president elect of the night are the president of the United States?
That's what concerns me.
That should never be said by the h one of the hot top officials in our government is talking about the intelligence committee, getting back at the person the American people elected president.
It doesn't work that way in this country.
But that that's what I want to know.
What are why why I want to see these five months of missing text messages?
Well, I mean, how quickly, expeditiously are we gonna get on this?
I've got to imagine I'd bring you the FBI should, or at least somebody in law enforcement has the best people that are capable forensically of pretty much recovering anything, right?
Yeah.
They should be right.
This is the FBI.
This is not a bunch of hacks in the in the bureaucracy at the IRS.
This is the FBI.
And the guy we're talking about is deputy head of counterintelligence.
He's supposed to be this genius.
He he fancies himself as the James Bond of the FBI.
So come on.
All right, stay right there.
More with Jim Jordan in just a second, 800 941 Sean.
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He's gonna join us, Phil Haney later in the uh top of the next hour.
All right, as we continue, Jim Jordan is uh with us, Congressman Ohio, and uh we are can't can you imagine where we are here?
How did we get to the point?
Hillary Clinton rigs a primary.
Hillary Clinton has Comey Strck exonerating her without even investigating the case, because she would have been arrested, she would have been indicted on it the crimes that she committed on the email server.
So they're basically protecting her because they've decided they want her over Trump.
Then you've got Loretta Lynch apparently playing a role according to these new struck page texts, Then you've got that phony Russian dossier, Hillary Clinton bought and paid for with lies to really rig and fix the general election with lies against Donald Trump and that phony bought and paid for Hillary dossier, Russian propaganda is used against Trump to get a Pfizer warrant to spy on an opposition candidate in an election year, and then a president elect as he's coming into office and sabotage him.
And apparently now we have a special team of you know FBI people and DOJ people that are organizing meetings to depose of the will of the people.
Scary scary scary, isn't it?
And on top of all that's there anything I'm saying that's wrong there.
Five months of missing messages.
And imagine this, Sean.
Sean Hannity is being investigated by the FBI, and suddenly important information on your phone, you just delete it.
Can you imagine what the FBI would do?
IRS is in looking into one of your many listeners out there, and they're looking at them and they have documents that destroyed that are under the case.
By the way, this is under a preservation order.
They're in big trouble, but yet it continues to happen with folks who are in the Obama administration in the bureaucracy during the Obama administration.
All right, thanks, Jim Jordan.
Congressman Ohio 800-941 Sean.
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House Intel Committee Republicans refuse to share the secret memo with the FBI and the Justice Department.
Why?
Because they're investigating them.
They have no choice.
They can't trust them.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
Can we retrieve those missing text messages?
We'll check in with two experts, Bill Benny and Phil Haney coming up next.
Both what's there and what's not there.
So lay aside this glaring five month gap in text that the world's premier law enforcement agency somehow missed.
Lay that aside.
What we have seen, what Johnny and I saw today was a text about not keeping text.
We saw more manifest bias against President Trump all the way through the election into the transition.
And I saw an interesting text that Director Comey was going to update the President of the United States about an investigation.
I don't know if it was a Hillary Clinton investigation, because remember that had been reopened in the fall of 2016, or whether it was the Trump investigation.
I just find it interesting that the head of the FBI was going to update the president of the United States, who at that point would have been President Obama.
Straux says, quote, you and I both know the odds are nothing.
If I thought it was likely, I'd be there no question.
There's no big there.
All right, it gets stranger and stranger.
Now they're talking about an FBI secret society at this point, uh, which Comey's got a lot of explaining to do, and apparently Comey, well, he himself actually went before the special counsel.
Now he helped appoint the special counsel.
He purposely leaked to get the special counsel, and then he's handing over notes to Robert Muller with his obvious bias involved in this.
Then we got the news today that this guy Rabicki is leaving the FBI, and uh he was Comey's chief of staff.
And by virtue of his position and his closeness to the director, well, that would mean he probably was involved in the Bureau's investigation into Clinton's private email server, all the classified documents contained therein, the mysterious reason why Comey chose not to charge Clinton with various crimes after initially deciding to do so.
And for months, the FBI and the Department of Justice stonewalled all efforts to force Rabicke to appear on Capitol Hill to testify about what he knew on these matters.
And while dodging Congress, where Bickey did speak with the Office of Special Counsel, an independent federal agency that handles whistleblower disclosures under legal protections against reprisals, and he reportedly informed the Office of Special Counsel of Comey's initial draft statement that Hillary did in fact commit crimes and the subsequent change of language announcing the exact opposite.
In other words, the exoneration that took place before the investigation.
Anyway, a partial transcript of an August 2017 letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee to Chris Ray, in which Grassley and Graham excoriate Comey for prejudging the Clinton case with his exoneration statement before the investigation.
Anyway, where Bickey was also privy to how the FBI appeared to have exploited the anti Trump dossier that was funded by the Democratic Party, as well as the extent to which the agency used it as a vehicle to launch the investigation of the Trump uh and wiretap his campaign and he testified last Thursday before two congressional committees behind closed doors.
So it's pretty interesting that now he calls it quit quits here.
I don't believe it's a coincidence.
And again, this is now going to be unfolding quickly.
Now the question is what do we do about the fifty thousand missing text messages in this crucial period of time and that would be between Peter Strzok and and Lisa Page.
Well you know they both thought they had an insurance policy in case Trump won and now we know that that they both knew that there would never be an indictment of Hillary Clinton and that also means that I guess Bruce Orr probably knew and McCabe probably knew and Comey probably Comey did know and now we find out that it's likely Loretta Lynch knows because of the text messages.
But how do we get the 50 thousand other text messages which probably would be the most explosive and just guessing here.
Bill Binney is the former technical director of the NSA World Geopolitical and military analysis and reporting group and Philippiney is the author of See Something, Say Nothing and a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security combined they have nearly eighty years experience in working in national security issues for this country.
Welcome back back both of you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Bill Binney once on this program well actually many times on this program you said to me that every text, every phone call, every email is captured metadata stored in some of these metadata centers like in Utah and elsewhere.
Wouldn't that suggest that the text messages between Strzok and his girlfriend mistress can be found?
Yes they can if if NSA hasn't totally destroyed them by now.
In other words if the FBI wants to destroy information they have to do it in two places once at their offices and also at NSA because NSA captures that too.
And that's just coming out in recent in a recent Pfizer court order that was released.
So uh and it talks about all the collection and the upstream program and things like that and what the FBI's involvement in that to a certain degree is not the full story yet but uh would that be something that you'd have to manually go to maybe the metadata center at the NSA and do and wouldn't there be a record of somebody going in there and destroying it destroying certain things?
Oh yeah that would be there too.
So I mean that could clearly show up and show uh culpability in a cover up let me ask you Philipaney great to have you back.
What is your take on all of this?
Well you remember a couple years ago when we started talking what was the main subject deletion of information from the law enforcement databases.
This has actually been going on in one form or another for quite some time.
It reminds me of a cynical game of musical chairs.
No one wants to get caught when the music stops and so people move around to protect themselves from the consequences of their abrogation of constitutional duty.
But what really struck me Sean about all this is like we have two ropes tangled together and it's one of the reasons why it's hard for us to follow all this we have two major things going on.
The use of true information for partisan political purposes to hurt people and the creation of false information for the same reason.
So they're blended together and it's hard to tell where the true information ends and the false information begins but from their side there they allow themselves permission to use whatever means necessary to destroy the lives in people of people of politicians and law enforcement officers but this is how profound this is and and we've talked about Watergate.
Watergate's nothing compared to what we're discovering here.
Because you got one candidate who rigs a primary you've got now it's obvious that the decision was made long before an investigation that they were ex going to exonerate one political candidate that had committed crimes.
So the investigation into Hillary's email server was rigged and they had already drawn a conclusion to exonerate her before they do the investigation.
Then Hillary goes ahead I guess if you fixed the the primary election why not try to fix the general election and she does that by hiring fusion GPS that puts together a phony Russian propaganda dossier that is full of lies.
That's to influence The American people in the general election.
And then it's used as a means of obtaining a Pfizer warrant with fake phony partisan information to spy on the opposition candidate in the lead up to the election and then post election a presidential uh uh a president elect.
Now if that's not and then on top of and then on top of it, you've got all these plans in place, an insurance policy apparently put in place, if God forbid Trump wins.
And then it gets even worse than that.
They were prepared, they thought, but they got caught off guard.
They blinked for a half a second, and in that moment Trump won Trump won the election, and they got caught off guard, just like getting blindsided in football.
So they left all these crumbs behind, but I've got to believe that the you know, now we there's fifty thousand text messages, but in the key period of time, the critical period of time where so much is happening at once, you know, when the dossier comes out, when General Flynn is investigated, when Comey is fired, when the special uh counsel is appointed, all that period, there's no text messages, but the day after Robert Muller's uh appointed special counsel, that next day they start texting again.
Doesn't that seem a little curious to you, Bill Benny, that that that five critical months of information is missing?
Actually, yeah, it uh it uh smells like a chip in the field, you know.
If you if you uh if you're a country boy like me, I'm pretty pretty uh used to pick picking out a chip in the field uh a mile away so you don't step in it, you know.
And that's basically what's going on here.
This is uh this just smells the high heaven.
I mean, fig try to figure the random probability of the critical information to an investigation being deleted over and over again.
That's been what's been going on at CIA, FBI, NSA.
This is happening throughout the intelligence community and law enforcement.
I mean, this shows the corruption.
This is where this is in my mind the thing main thing we have to face, and the attorney general's got to stand up and do this because if he doesn't, I mean, we have no judicial process that's it that's uh worth anything anyway.
I mean, it's just saying that uh the law applies to everybody except certain few.
And that's basically what's been going on here.
Well, I mean, how do we get to the bottom of it?
How are we ever going to recover Philippine these fifth these these missing five months of uh text messages?
You have to have uh you have to have some people with technical smarts to go into NSA and have and go in to see if they if they haven't destroyed the equipment, they could perhaps recover a lot of them from that, much like the FBI would do if they had uh uh you know somebody's computer who would try to erase stuff but didn't fully do the job, then you could get recover it that way.
Otherwise there may be backups somewhere in NSA that even NSA doesn't know about, and they could get it from there.
I mean, it's just not it doesn't pass the smell test, Philippine, and then you hear about the secret FBI society meeting after Trump is elected because they didn't expect this to happen.
You're right, because uh just the admission that they lost the information, don't they realize how compromised, how incompetent they make themselves look to the American public?
Who are we our our secret clearance information?
We just got notified for the third time, Sean, that it was hacked.
Who are we supposed to trust that the federal government and national security agents aren't even capable of of safeguarding the government?
I've said this for the longest time.
I mean, everybody doesn't like that Julian Assange was able to get information on us, but it's the same guy that hacked into the into NASA and the Department of Defense when he was sixteen.
He's now in his forties.
You know, if if you at some point it's got to be shame on you, shame on you, but at some point, now that you know all these people are doing this, when does it become shame on me for allowing them to get through?
Well, we've come up to the breach, we've come up to the abyss, and Congress needs to go forward and not shrink back from it.
When they investigated me, Sean, they scoured through my emails and my phone calls for years before the actual date of the invest you know, the event that's precipitated the investigation, which was the Boston bombing.
And why did they do that?
They were doing trying to do the same thing to me as they did to General Flynn, find some point where I contradicted my testimony and then hammer me into the ground with it.
I mean, these are unbelievable times.
All right.
So where could we start in terms of the search to try and get these missing text messages.
I mean, I would gotta believe that the phone would be the first place, right?
Yeah, I would I would think uh you need to have uh uh you can go go to the phone companies and see what they've got stored.
You could do it.
Let's assume for a minute they don't have it.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Well then you have to go to NSA and have somebody with the authority to go right into their database and look and find the data.
Yeah, and and it could do that basically from virtually any analyst terminal.
If they've got uh IC reach or X key score query routines, they can get into that data there and and recover it rather quickly.
I mean, it shouldn't be a major.
Well, wouldn't it if they have the phones, wouldn't they most likely forensically be able to pull that off the phone?
I mean, in other words, I'm always told nothing you erase is ever really erased.
Well, I was talking I was talking about actually getting the transcripts of the phone calls or actually the audio of the phone calls.
Yeah, well, agreed.
I mean, well, these are text messages.
I mean, this is what people don't understand.
They have such advanced equipment that literally they translate conversations you're having on the phone in real time into words.
So you can read a printed real time printout of what you're talking about.
Yeah, and so if you go if you go also you you would get the text messages also because the the phone number you pull.
Yeah, you would get all of that at once.
Yeah.
The other thing to consider, Sean, is that this is assuming that they were the only two in the conversation.
There had to be other people in some of those conversations.
That means other phones were involved.
Well, we know that they discussed how to remove the text messages and hide them anyway.
I mean, it's like they knew what they were doing was wrong, and that's an admission they knew what they do were doing is wrong.
I will take a break.
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We'll continue.
All right, as we continue with Bill Binney and Philip Haney.
All right, so if we have the real phones, is it possible that it's still on there?
Isn't that what we're always told, Philippine, that you never erase anything?
That's the cardinal rule of intelligence agencies.
And that's the point.
These are this is the premier law enforcement and or intelligence agency in the entire country.
And we're supposed to believe, oops, we lost them.
Well, what about all the other data that is being generated by the entire um FBI and the agents that operate in the field?
They have to have a safeguard.
What if your phone you drop your phone uh in the bathtub or you run over it or anything?
They have to have a backup for it.
And what's your take, Bill Binney?
Well, yeah, I would say uh that uh even the the records act requires them to keep those kinds of uh information uh nobody keeps nobody stays by the records act.
I mean that's the least of the laws they're gonna break.
I know, but internally in NSA, for example, uh this is the one I know of, uh they have uh procedures that automatically do that.
So it's not a question of uh of uh deleting just one file.
You have to make sure you delete multiple backups too.
And there's storage facilities that that retain it for uh for many decades.
So it's uh it's not a I don't I don't think I don't think even NSA knows where all the copies are.
So I think that that's possible to see even even in spite of any effort they might make to erase it, it's impossible to recover it.
All right, Bill Binney Philippine, thank you both.
Grant was uh boy, he was just my buddy from the maybe he was born.
He just brightened everybody, my family, my friends.
He uh he was everything.
It come in and wanted my cigarettes.
Altamirano then pulled a gun and pointed it at Grant.
Grant immediately offered up the cigarettes.
And Altamirano then shot him point blank in the face.
My son's death was completely preventable.
He had been in the country illegally since he was fourteen.
He was a self-proclaimed member of the Cinnaloa drug cartel and the Mexican mafia.
He had previously been arrested For sexually assaulting a woman breaking into her house and sexually assaulting her and holding her captive for a week.
Let me thank my friend, my colleague, and our leader on the Democratic side for his passionate personal commitment to this issue involving the Dreamers and DACA.
He has been by my side, and I've been inspired by his leadership from the start.
And let me thank my colleagues.
So many of you cast uh vote it was very hard and very difficult because you believed as I did that the issue of immigration, the issue of the dreamers is the civil rights issue of our time.
You stuck your necks up and said, I'm willing to go on record, even if it's going to be hard to explain back home, and I will never forget that.
All right, Dick Durbin and now Chuck Schumer just earlier today.
He withdraws the offer on Trump's wall after he got so embarrassed, I guess, by the shutdown debacle of the Democrats, the Schumer shutdown was a Schumer dud 800-941 Shauna's a toe-free telephone number.
The other tape you heard was that of Steve Ronneback.
He's the father of Grant Ronneback.
And his 21-year-old son was murdered.
He was working overnight at a convenience store in Mesa, Arizona.
And Ronneback's killer was an illegal alien who was released by ICE in 2013 after conviction for burglary and kidnapping involving drug dealing.
Apparently it kept his woman hostage for a week, and all sorts of crimes were committed.
Anyway, uh Ronnebeck took to social media this weekend to express just how hard it is to see the so-called leaders, elected officials in the U.S. protecting DACA recipients over American citizens.
And he writes, so I sit here reading about the government shutdown, and all I think about is the three-year anniversary of Grant's murder.
It's Monday, yesterday.
And as everyone remembers, Grant was murdered by a DACA recipient, and the monster executed Grant in cold blood.
He was a dreamer brought here when he was 14.
I have never once said all illegal immigrants are bad, but a lot of them are criminals.
I miss my son every single day.
My family has been devastated and ripped apart.
So let me have my say, and I'll take the consequences.
Without a wall on the southern border, an extreme tightening of security arrests and deportation of illegal aliens coming across the southern border.
DACA is an issue that can be dealt with in March or even later in the year.
Yes, DACA's important, but again, we need to stop the flow of the importation of drugs and humans and illegal goods and criminals and prior convicted felons that have been previously deforded.
Steve Ronneback joins us now as well as Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Oh, I I don't have to venture a guess that these have been the three worst years of your life, and I don't know if it gets any better.
Oh no, Sean, it doesn't.
And uh, you know, I I just the audacity of the Democrats, especially Chuck Schumer, to sit down at the bargaining table and and basically say we want it all, and you get nothing, and then to turn around and pull the one thing that they said, okay, we'll we'll compromise on.
It's ridiculous.
It's I I just don't understand how they can they can do this and stonewall our president at every turn.
You know, we talk about civil rights, the civil rights what is this, the civil rights uh problem of the century.
Well, you know, Grant was constitutionally guaranteed the right to freedom and happiness and you know, the pursuit of happiness.
Well, where's my son's rights?
They were violated.
Your son's doing everything right.
He's working, he's 21 years old, he's in a convenience store, he's advancing in his life, and over a pack of cigarettes, a guy that had held a woman hostage for a week and put in jail on I forget how many years, he gets released only to go out and then over a pack of cigarettes, kill your son.
Well, you know, Sean, he didn't even do a day in prison.
Not one day.
He uh he he qualified for felony probation because he was able to plead down the charges.
But wasn't the charge that he had held this woman hostage for a week?
No, he was able to, because they filled her full of heroin for the week.
Um, he was able to just plead that down to felony burglary because she was not a uh competent wisp witness.
Unbelievable, because the he pumped her full of heroin and she doesn't have recollection.
Um on average, the Department of Homeland Security apprehends over eleven hundred people a day.
Uh with December marking the eighth month in a row of an increase in apprehensions.
On January 14th, the DHS saw the number of apprehensions, you know, at 1400.
Now, the DH DHS refuses entry to known or suspected terrorists every day, 50 every week, 2500 every year.
And yet we have this threat to our homeland.
When I sat through a security briefing in Texas, Jessica Vaughn, I I was shocked to learn in a seven, eight year period, six hundred and forty-two thousand crimes, including some murders, were perpetrated against the people of Texas.
That's just one state.
That's over a short period of time.
I would think everybody's united on this issue.
Why not protect our borders?
President said we can have a door in the wall and we can vet people and they can come in as long as we know that they're not going to be uh committing crimes against our fellow citizens.
That's right.
This isn't hard to understand.
Americans understand it.
Uh we're all heartbroken to hear stories like uh Steve's about his son Grant.
It's a a tragedy, but one that was preventable, and that was all due to policy and to our failure to secure the borders.
And that's why it's so frustrating to hear people like Senator Durbin and Senator Schumer say that the it's the emergency is finding a solution for for the dreamers.
Uh that's really not a solution to our immigration problems.
The president has laid out uh a very good plan.
It was put together by senior officials at all the immigration agencies saying what needs to be done to secure the border, to stop the influx of illegal aliens from Central America, the unaccompanied minors and their families, to fix the broken asylum system, to implement mandatory e-verify, to reduce chain migration, end the visa lottery, uh build some barriers at the wall, and um prevent gang members from getting green cards and so on.
A very fine list of things, and that ought to be a starting point.
That's fixing the problem.
Um, you know, doing an amnesty for the dreamers is really a sideshow to this, or it should be in terms of our priorities.
The only piece of legislation on the table right now that accomplish it that would accomplish what the president has said needs to be done and what his uh career officials say needs to be done, and that's the house bill introduced by Representative Goodlat.
And you know, we ought to be doing that before any amnesty.
We need to make sure all those things are working before an amnesty is enacted.
We need to take care of sanctuary cities before about a sanctuary state.
I mean, it doesn't get any right.
California, yes.
No.
Yeah, it it's it's outrageous.
All and now there's a this judge in California has now said that that the federal government needs to keep issuing uh renewals of DACA work permits.
Well, that's an opportunity for Congress to say, okay, I guess there's no firm deadline.
Why don't we do this a to-do list first of enforcement needs and and and fixing the glaring problems in our immigration system that most Americans want to see fixed and agree need to be fixed, and then we'll talk about an amnesty.
Uh unfortunately they're rushing to do the amnesty.
Look, they always they always want to give you the tax increase or the spending increase.
You never get the tax cut.
You always get the amnesty, the consideration, and you never get the border security.
It's just the way it is.
Um they know that.
That's why they're still coming in increased numbers at the border, as you mentioned.
It's because of all this talk about amnesty.
Three point six million dreamers, not eight hundred thousand, as uh previously thought.
Um what do you want the Republicans to do, uh, Steve?
I mean, I've I I know your testimony is powerful.
You're not the only parent that I have interviewed over the years, uh, especially in the last year and a half, that has lost a son or a daughter because of illegal immigration and killed by illegal immigrants.
I mean, it's story after story.
And I know maybe some people that think they want to be Compassionate and do the right thing.
I I I've got to wonder in my heart if they would be uh if their thought process would change after you lose a member of your family because I can't think of anything more devastating.
No, and and there's not.
I mean, it the Republicans have to stand firm.
The Republicans have to come together and support the president and his policies.
Again, like Jessica said, you know, DACA is pretty much a moot point.
It really is at this point in the game.
It is a moot point.
Without border security, even if we deport DACA members or the criminals that are DACA members, they're gonna come back, they're gonna head to to California, they're gonna head to Chicago.
We have to have the border security.
It's it you're gonna see more and more of this happening if we don't get it fixed.
And it's not only that, it's the sexual assaults against children, it's the heroin, it's the other drugs that are coming across the border.
I can't understand why the American people think that all of these DACA members are are just wonderful people and they're just coming here for a better life.
Yes, some of them are.
But what about the criminals?
What about the murderers, the drug dealers?
Um the sexual deviants that are coming across our border.
The MS 13 that is coming across our border.
How many of the MS 13 have we deported?
How many of them are already back in our country?
Such a good point.
I mean, it it just doesn't stop.
With chain migration, yes, 800,000 DACA members.
With chain migration, you're looking, like you said, at 8.6 million because of chain migration.
If just 10% of those DAC uh of those chain migration are criminals.
10%.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
Listen, I want to wish you uh the best.
I know this is a tough week for you.
It's the third anniversary since you lost uh your son Grant, and uh you're in our thoughts and prayers.
Uh you're a powerful voice uh explaining to people the dangers here.
And uh we thank you so much uh for being with us and uh Jessica, thank you for joining us as well.
We appreciate it.
So hard.
I can't think of anything worse than losing your child.
Anything.
And then you think, oh, they had this guy in custody and they let him go.
It just makes it worse.
There's culpability on the part of those that allowed that to happen.
Otherwise, it if we followed the law, it never would have happened.
Just followed the law.
Let's get to our busy phones here.
Joe is in West Virginia.
Joe, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hello there, how are you?
I'm good, sir.
How are you?
Super.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I just wanted to make a comment or two.
Uh we heard all this about the five months and specific days of text messages that were missing.
And I know you talked about this some yesterday, but um uh I used to work for a wireless carrier uh for about 25 years.
I'm retired now.
But um I worked at the liaison for large government accounts, large business accounts, and also law enforcement.
And I got subpoenaed many, many times.
Not personally, but requested subpoenas because uh that had to go to legal departments, but many, many cases records were subpoenaed for murder cases for uh uh grafting corruption cases in the government.
I could go on and on about that, but they uh they got their text messages, and it it was much it was weeks or months past whenever that text misses were were generated.
It wasn't a three-day cap like I heard yesterday.
Well, I I had heard from different sources, and I'm getting mixed messages that there might be records of text that took place, but they may not be the text messages themselves.
Oh, there'd be a record of the number that texted to and from right, but it's the details.
We need the information on what's on those texts.
Um I agree.
The con the content would have been in those.
Right.
Now, every carrier may have their own policy, but the carrier I work for was one of the two largest carriers in the country, and they kept detailed records.
They had a very large legal department, and um these guys always got what they needed.
Like I say, one was the murder case, there are grafting crafting cases, and These were important uh bits of evidence they had to have, and they were there for them.
Yeah.
Well, we appreciate your call, sir.
Thank you for being with us.
Yeah, we can get this information.
Somehow, it's out there somewhere.
Took two years to get lower learn lowest learner's emails.
We can find them.
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