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I didn't of course I didn't watch the view with Joyless Behar and Company.
You know, the last time I was on that show, Rosie O'Donnell was on that show.
I would not and the show's crashing and burning anyway, and nobody even watches that.
Daytime TV is dead.
It's never not like it used to be.
You know, um I didn't say thank you.
We came in number one in all the cable last year, total audience, and demo.
That's it.
You have to add the demo.
Um, and all of you made that possible.
And I know that I don't have this microphone every day.
I know I'm not sitting in front of that camera every night if it wasn't for all of you.
And uh I I humbly appreciate it, and I take the responsibility.
You know, I want to be the best host I can be for you.
I want to do the best show I can do every day.
And we talk about news and issues and what's going on in the world and how to make the world a little bit of a better place, and we talk about lying and corruption, and not the least of which is the media in this country.
They're so freaking corrupt you can't even believe it.
They don't want to talk about anything of substance anymore.
And it's like the analogy I used yesterday.
We'll get to that too.
I'm just reading this, not sure why this came out today.
It's interesting because apparently, according to the New York Post, and it again, this is back in April of 2017, but it's on that line today.
Um, you know, one errant North Korean missile went so rogue last year that it crashed into a city not far from the capital of North Korea, Pyongyang, according to a report.
That was uh an intermediate range ballistic missile, and it turned itself into a short-range rocket when it failed during a test flight on April twenty-eighth of twenty seventeen, slammed into a local city.
According to the diplomat magazine, the missile flew only twenty-four miles before taking a nosedive and striking a complex of industrial and agricultural buildings, according to the report, and according to U.S. government sources with knowledge of the weapons program in North Korea,
the missile's first stage engines failed about a minute after the flight took off, and the location of the missile's impact was revealed exclusively to this one particular magazine which said it corroborated the flub using commercially available satellite imagery, and they were able to see the damage that it all caused.
And the images show that the explosion caused heavy damage in a very heavy populated area, but you know, they're so shut off North Korea, no nobody can really know, I guess at the end of the day.
Um we'll get to that.
Now, you know, one of the things I was saying both on radio yesterday and on TV, I was telling you about what I think about the media.
I was telling you, I think the media, they're well, not only are they lazy and they're overpaid, and they're a bunch of sheep, and they all echo each other.
I love the fact too that they all pretty much universally hate me.
I love that.
I don't want to be liked by them.
I have no desi I have no desire.
Whatever switch might exist in the human brain to want to be liked, that switch is gone in my life.
Maybe it's 30 years of radio, maybe it's 23 years on Fox, but I don't I just I don't know when, but there was a switch where I cared in the beginning a lot, then a little, then hardly at all, and now not at all.
I love that switch is gone.
You know, I remember who was it?
Jennifer Aniston said about Brad Pitt.
He's got a missing chip.
I have a missing chip.
Because I don't care.
And people are telling me a few people writing me today, and I guess it was on Twitter, and Linda said it, and Jason said, Oh, we've got the audio of Joy Behar attacking you.
And I'm saying, oh, really?
Uh, can I have Campbell soup for lunch today?
Because we have a whole big stock of Campbell soup.
I know people think, oh, you guys on radio must eat crate.
No, that's pretty much either that or a salad for crying out loud with mayonnaise on it, and they make fun of that.
Um, I don't care.
You know, the we know they're all the same.
Just think about it.
You know, look at the North Korean situation and look at their reaction to Donald Trump's tweet.
It's all the same.
And they try to outdo each other.
And they they have this media bubble that they all live in, and they're all addicted to the high that they're getting for, you know, wanting to prove to each other that they hate Trump more than you hate Trump.
And if you work at CNN, no, we hate Trump more than MSNBC hates Trump.
No, we hate you, we hate Trump more.
And we'll call him demented and a liar, and no, that's not enough.
I use a demented, demented, demented liar, liar, liar.
And that makes it stronger and more powerful.
And then they retweet each other and they talk to each other constantly, you know, on social media.
I mean, to watch it, it is like I've never seen it's like they they march, they're like brain dead.
It's like they're hypnotized zombies.
It's like watching a horror movie of some kind, and there's no creative thought, no real true investigative reporting.
There's so much out there that they could be doing to get to truth if they cared about their audiences even a little bit.
And a part of me is kind of happy about it.
I'm being honest, because there's such a wide open void that it's all mine.
And I keep doing it, and it's all coming true.
Just like they laughed at the idea Trump could be president.
I didn't.
They thought there's no chance in hell he was gonna win.
I knew he had a chance to win.
And I knew that the environment was good for him to win.
And then they're never gonna talk about, you know, they worshipped at the altar of Obama.
They never talked about his failures.
I mentioned it every day in 2016, every single day on purpose on radio and on TV.
I'll never forget one conversation I had with somebody in the Trump campaign.
I need that list thing that you do every day.
Though you know the list, the the list thing.
And said, okay, I think I know what you mean.
I'll give you my list thing.
I said they're called facts.
They're called, and I'm explaining to them.
And then I'm looking at, you know, they're never gonna tell you Trump had a good year last year.
They're never gonna go over.
You know, I'm looking at the numbers today.
I was looking at the Drudge Report, and if you can get past, you know, the obsession everybody has with this Michael Wolf book.
That was another thing.
Media I says, oh, Sean Hannity desperately trying not to talk.
No, I'm not desperate.
I decided not to.
I gave my thoughts on it.
One thing I always hate is this circular firing squad among conservatives.
Like, for example, I there are people in radio and on TV that probably agree with 85% of what I say, but hate my guts.
And my attitude is okay, look if we agree on 85%, we probably agree that the country needs to be saved, and we agree on conservative principles.
You can hate my guts all you want, but I can acknowledge that they're doing good work for the country by standing up for the principles that will make the country strong.
It's not a batter matter of who's right, it's a matter of what's right.
You know, what are the answers?
What are the solutions to everyday problems?
That reminds me of that parable from the Bible about the boat.
Isn't there something in the Bible?
No, I was tosses.
I was telling you this, yeah, because the apostles saw others casting out demons in Jesus' name, but they weren't the official apostles and performing miracles in Jesus' name.
And they're like, and Jesus said the apostles were pissed.
And Jesus said, I don't know if it exactly said pissed in the Bible.
What page is that on?
All right.
I'm not saying it the best way.
I am not a biblical scholar.
I'm trying to be the best Christian I can be, okay?
And but Jesus then said, no, they're not against us, they're with us.
And the same thing here.
Anybody that's advocating the principles of conservatism and eliminating Obamacare and cutting taxes and getting rid of regulations, energy independence, the president today, this is a huge big deal.
Nobody will ever talk about this today.
That the president has opened all U.S. waters to drilling.
That's on top of Anwar.
That's on top of saving the coal industry.
I'm telling you, there's gonna be an energy explosion.
Every single American's gonna benefit.
There are gonna be millions of Americans now that'll have high paying career jobs because of what the president has done on one issue alone, and that's energy.
It's the and he did it all on his own.
He didn't need any help from Congress, although Anwar was in the in the tax bill that the House and Senate passed.
And I give him credit for that.
I've been very critical of Republicans.
I hope they can continue the little bit of momentum they got at the end of the year.
Senate also deserves credit for the judges they're appointing.
I think that's all good.
And Hannity, why aren't you talking about Palace Intrigue and Bannon and the president and their exchange?
Because my attitude, look, I have very strong feelings about it.
And I've said it many times in the past.
If you get to work in that building, I don't care who you're working for in that building, meaning the White House, I think your job is to serve the American people and the agenda of the president, and I think with that comes confidentiality.
I think it just is a part of a loyalty thing that I just believe.
And uh, do I hope it all, you know, eventually it's gonna go away, just like everything else goes away.
And um, and meanwhile, what's happening?
Well, we see the president's weekly job approval, you know, is up, uh, and he ended the year at the same approval rating as the first year President Obama.
That shocks people.
You know, I'm looking at the ADP report in Bloomberg News today.
Payrolls at U.S. companies increased in December by the most in nine months.
Well, who do I talk about every day on this program?
Oh, the forgotten men and women.
I showed the painting by John McNaughton yesterday.
Another two hundred and fifty thousand jobs, exceeding all other estimates.
Well, that brings us to two million jobs created since Donald Trump's been president.
Latest census figures show that what, Americans are leaving and fleeing blue states in droves.
Michael Barone wrote writes a great piece.
You know, and I see that what's his name, Cuomo in New York.
He's trying to be really clever.
He's so angry.
You know, he's he gives a 90-minute boring state of the state address yesterday, and uh then goes on to excoriate the tax bill.
And so then he says, Well, I've got a way around this tax bill because there's limits on deductions uh for state and local taxes to $10,000, but Cuomo suggested reducing personal income tax rates and then funding state services more via payroll taxes.
He's not gonna cut taxes.
He's still addicted to them.
Well, that's not gonna stop the exit, the the exodus from states like New York and California and other states.
There's so much good news out there.
250,000 more people with jobs.
I'm pretty happy about that.
And then you've got the Dow now 25,000.
Well, we've had 60, 70 records set at the Dow, which is not my biggest barometer.
I'm gonna be honest.
It wasn't because a lot of people don't invest in it, but those people that do, even if it's in a 401k or whatever, it's all good.
And then we've got, let's see, other news that we have today.
Uh job cut announcements in 2017, the lowest level since 1990.
Food stamp rolls declined by more than two million, two million fewer people Americans on food stamps last year.
That was one of the big items I'd mentioned all through 2016.
You got more companies offering workers bonuses now after the passage of the tax bill.
Why?
Because they have lower corporate income taxes.
And what have I always told you?
A simple thing.
Corporations don't pay income taxes.
You know who pays income taxes?
You do, or it's corporate taxes, you do.
They pass those prices on to the consumer.
Now they can give some of the money back to their employees because now the competition in the job market is getting a little bit harder because now we've gotten rid of regulations.
We've created a better business environment.
And we're gonna get to all this today.
Now, also, there's so much as it relates to what the media won't tell you about corruption and what is happening in terms of uranium one, what is happening with the dossier, what is happening with the Clinton email server, who is in legal jeopardy about a fixed and rigged not only a primary election.
I never understood why Bernie's supporters never got infuriated by what Hillary did.
But also, we see the fix was in by Comey and Peter Strzok as it relates to the email server scandal.
That means, well, a new investigation has to open.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity show here's some news from the Daily Beast that I've been expecting something on this now for a while.
Um hearing rumors about this for a while.
Justice Department officials are now taking a fresh look at Hillary Clinton's use of the private email server.
While she served as Secretary of State, how can they not if they believe in equal justice under the law?
The question is what's taken the Justice Department so long.
Takes a long time.
I guess the wheels of justice grind ever so slowly, unless, of course, you're James Comey and you just write the exoneration first.
I mean, that's a that's a better way to handle it, right?
I'll exonerate you and then we'll go through the motions.
That's all.
That's fine.
And we have the evidence that he wrote it.
It's not like we're making it up.
Anyway, the Justice Department officials are now taking a fresh look at this use of a private email server.
Now, I told you last year all of this was going to be happening.
Uranium one is also happening.
The dossier issue is bigger than you think.
I'm calling this the year of the boomerang.
Trump Russia collusion is officially pretty much dead.
Now nobody in the media is going to tell you these things.
And we've now, it's amazing.
Amazing what we've learned about Robert Mueller and his special counsel team that he handpicked.
It's amazing what we've learned about Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and Bruce Orr and his wife Nellie.
It's amazing what Mueller knew about Vladimir Putin's criminal network inside the United States ahead of Uranium One, bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering, and racketeering.
So now, all of these things, if you put the fix in, you rig an investigation, and the rigging comes out, to me, that's obstruction of justice.
Um, and I know the talking point of the liberal meeting.
Oh, you're attacking the FBI.
I'm not attacking the FBI.
I love the FBI.
Thank God for the FBI.
Thank God for the CIA.
Thank God for the good people.
Not for the people that abuse, you know, the powerful tools or intelligence, which has happened.
I want to find out who those deep state leakers are that are trampling over the Constitution, the Fourth Amendment, your right to against unreasonable search and seizure.
I want I want to know, you know, who in the FBI was involved in surveillance and not minimizing and unmasking and leaking raw intelligence.
I want to find out why they didn't warn Cypheus, the nine agencies, about what Putin was doing, trying to get a foothold in the uranium market.
And now we have to look into Hillary Clinton, and apparently an ally of General of Attorney General Sessions is familiar with the thinking of the Justice Department.
They're saying they're now gathering information on the email server and the scandal and how things were handled.
Well, we know felonies were committed there.
The big question is going to be do we have equal justice under the law?
I'll explain that when we get back.
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This is only the beginning, I can tell you, of what I have uh known now for a little bit that that is the Justice Department is now taking major steps to now reopen the investigation into Hillary Clinton's illegal email server.
Just like we know the uranium one deal.
Jeff Sessions has not recused himself, and there's an ongoing investigation there.
Now, how long it's going to take is probably going to be frustrating.
But it's happening.
We know late last night that the Justice Department handed over to Congress these long sought Trump dossier documents.
That too is now beginning to come to fruition after the House Intelligence Committee, the chairman Devin Nunes threatened to hold the FBI director, Christopher Ray, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in contempt of Congress.
The Justice Department late last night promised to turn over all the documents they've been withholding on the Trump dossier.
Now the House and Justice Department apparently reached a deal late Wednesday.
There was a private meeting with Rosenstein and the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.
And from what I'm told from sources is that Ryan stood up for Devin Nunes and said, hand over the documents.
Otherwise there's going to be trouble.
Because they have the right to subpoena them.
Of course, you've got Rosenstein.
Why didn't Rosenstein want to hand him over?
Why wouldn't he want to hand him over?
Well, that raises question.
Then you got this nexus between Mueller and Comey and Rosenstein, and it stinks to high heaven.
Anyway, so that came after that meeting with the speaker.
And after meeting, after speaking to Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein, I believe the House Intelligence Committee has reached an agreement with the Department of Justice that's going to provide the committee with access to all the documents and witnesses we have requested, according to Devin Nunes in a statement.
He said the committee looks forward to receiving access to documents over the coming days.
That's going to be interesting to watch unfold.
Now we know the panel led by Nunes also sought to know the extent the dossier might have been used to justify the Pfizer warrant and whether or not that was in fact brought on as evidence.
Now think of the how profound that might be.
That Hillary Clinton and the Hillary Clinton run DNC both paid the same law firm to funnel money to Fusion GPS.
Fusion GPS then hires this dirt digger, former MI6 guy, Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele were told, according to some reports, although Fusion GPS denies it, I don't know how they would deny it, because a lot of what they said in their op-ed just isn't true.
There's a great piece in the Wall Street Journal about how untrue a lot of that is.
I'm not going to go through it now, but anyway, and then Christopher Steele gets all the salacious information.
It turns out to be salacious lies about Donald Trump hookers, prostitutes, and the Rich Carlton in Moscow.
And the prostitutes were urinating on the bed.
Didn't happen.
Okay, now if that dossier bought and paid for by Hillary and Hillary's run DNC, we know twelve, fifteen million dollars is the estimate.
Okay, and then that's used to get a Pfizer warrant to surveil a then candidate of an opposition party.
That is massive abuse.
That would mean any information that was obtained that way would be inadmissible in any court, period.
End of sentence.
And it also raises the possibility of other crimes that need to now be investigated.
Let's see.
Um, we do have a Keith Ellison yesterday.
Any doubt the Democratic Party has gone over the left wing cliff.
You got Ellison endorsing Antifa, tweeting out a picture of himself smiling with the Antifa handbook.
What's the Antifa handbook?
Have you ever read it?
What?
I think the more interesting part is the fact that why are you eating crackers and spitting as we saw?
Saltines.
I wasn't anticipating to talk at this moment.
You weren't going to talk at this moment, first of all.
Why don't you take a drink of your ginger ale?
I'll fill the time, and then you can then talk without having salt.
Why, if you laugh, now you're too wasting time.
All right, take the drink of ginger ale.
Is there a reason?
Do you have an upset stomach?
That's the only time anyone drinks ginger ale if you have an upset stomach.
And I don't know why anybody thinks that works anyway.
Because it's carbonated, and then you have to I happen to really like ginger L. Alright, I don't care.
Go back to the point.
So that was rude.
Oh, enough out of you over there.
2018 is such a loving year already.
Yeah, exactly.
So what's the Antifa handbook?
Antifa was declared a domestic terrorist organization by the Department of Homeland Security.
So a sitting congressman took a picture with some handbook written by a domestic terrorist organization and thought it would be a good idea to take a selfie with him.
How did I miss that they were designated that?
When did the sixteen?
Yeah, the end of 2016, like September.
Huh.
All right.
So anyway, you got a top DNC official, Keith Ellison, with a picture with Antifa, the anti-fascist handbook.
Asserted the book would strike fear in the heart of President Trump.
Really?
I don't think so.
I don't think Donald Trump cares.
Um, you know, this is how interesting this is all getting.
The sheer volume.
Go back to John Solomon's report from two nights ago On Hannity.
The sheer volume of classified information from Clinton's server was seen as criminal.
Now the Daily Caller is saying, yeah, this is now we're we're beginning to know a lot about this.
And we know the fix was in too.
And why did they have that special category just for Clinton?
Because remember, FBI field officers would usually be responsible for the investigation.
That's why I don't I love FBI agents.
I love, you know, those that follow the rule of law, thank God they're in the front lines protecting us.
Same in the intelligence community.
But you can't abuse the powerful weaponry of intelligence gathering against the American people.
We got Judicial Watch, their bombshell.
It has Uma Abdee and Cheryl Mills and five others under oath on the same espionage questions.
This is going to get interesting.
Judicial Watch is doing some great work.
That Wall Street Journal op-ed that I mentioned.
So we have the Clinton campaign hiring Fusion GPS and funneling this money through the lawyer, the opposition research firm, to investigate the Trump campaign.
Now, they tried to say, well, a Republican hired us first to look into Trump.
Okay, but that was pre-Christopher Steele.
And then when Hillary and the DNC hire Fusion GPS, a dirt digging company, they hired, then they got the former British spy Christopher Steele.
And he produced a dossier that was full of lies and rumors and salacious material.
And the question now is was it used as the basis for a Pfizer warrant, either on a president elect or a candidate of an opposition party.
And as the Wall Street Journal points out, they they're now claiming that they're a victim in this somehow.
But they say it doesn't really, you know, we don't believe they're a victim in any way.
You know, and this is a story they say spun by Glenn Simpson and the other founders of Fusion GPS.
And because if you look, you know, their their talent is doing this dirt digging thing, including for Russians to smear human rights activist Bill Browder, they pointed out.
And the problem is the veracity of their work.
The co-founders don't name a single example in their op-ed of something that proves the dossier's claim of collusion between Trump and Russia.
Eighteen months after the dossier hit Washington, the special counsel have offered no public validation of any of the collusion allegations.
That's true.
That's why the media now is they're desperately trying to get in that's the only reason they're loving Bannon for like a minute.
And they'll turn on Bannon in 20 seconds.
You know, and I still for the life of me don't know why.
Because he has said to he knows this Russian thing is a bunch of nonsense.
He's known it from the beginning.
Anyway, but let's look at who Fusion GPS is.
You know, let's see.
As Mr. Browder notes on Twitter, the Fusion op-ed conveniently admits that it worked for the Russian government interest trying to repeal the McGinski Act.
They didn't mention that in their op-ed.
That's interesting.
At the same time, they were working on the dossier.
Oh, sounds like a conflict.
And that Mr. Simpson met with his Russian client, a Kremlin connected lawyer.
This is the woman that met with Don Jr. before and after she sat down with Don Jr. in Trump Tower.
Yeah, that would seem like I would call that a setup.
And they pat themselves on the back for hand having handed over all the relevant bank records.
Well, they stonewall Congress for almost the entire year, 2017.
And they wouldn't divulge the name of their clients for a year, which turned out to be the Clinton campaign.
And as Donna Brazil said, the DNC run by Clinton.
Even suing to prevent their access to bank records.
And that doesn't tell the whole story in any way.
And they claim to know nothing about her Trump meeting and that she knew nothing of the steel dossier work, and they write you'll have to take his word for the coincidence.
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.
And they're concerned about the attack on our country by a hostile foreign power, but meanwhile, the firm's concern about Russia and human rights abuses for which the McGinski sanctions were imposed would seem a stop at their bank account.
This is a pretty brutal takedown by the Wall Street Journal, particularly hard-hitting one.
And I think right on the money.
Another issue that's happening is Paul Manafort is now civilly suing the Department of Justice, Robert Muller, over the investigation, saying that the special counsel, Robert Muller, and his merry band of Hillary lovers and Trump haters over there.
You know, the pe I he probably hired the only guy that got overturned nine-zero in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Let's hire him.
That's a good choice.
He did a great job losing tens of thousands of jobs over at Anderson Accounting for nothing.
Did a great job putting people in jail for a year for nothing.
I mean, is this the guy with that track record?
That's who you're going to hire.
You only hire people that donate to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Great.
This seems like a very fair, very fair special counsel to me.
Anyway, Manafort is alleging Muller went outside the scope of the Russian investigation, which he totally did.
And that's always the problems with special counsels.
Investigating Manafort for $13 million in work that he did for the Ukrainian political party.
It's lobbying work, which by the way, from what I understand, John Podesta's group has done similar work.
Let's see when are we going to look at Podesta's records?
Anyway, so we'll watch all of this unfold here.
But I think this I think it was a pretty smart act on their part.
Because they can't sue them any other way, so they sued him civilly.
And other news we have today, Charles Grassley says Comey appears to have leaked the classified memo to his friend.
Well, we kind of knew that already.
And um anyway, he wrote a letter to the deputy attorney general Rosenstein yesterday demanding answers about the handling of memos that Comey wrote following his conversations with President Trump.
And uh again, four of the documents contain information cla classified as confidential or secret.
And he hands it to his Columbia professor friend.
Well, that doesn't seem particularly good.
Uh we have the House Intel Committee getting those documents that I told you about.
We've got Donald Trump now is uh going after both legally Steve Bannon.
Apparently there was a confidentiality agreement when he worked on the campaign, and uh apparently now is going up against the uh book, a cease and desist letter has gone out on that book action as well.
But don't worry, the media, that's all they'll talk about.
A lot of good economic news.
All right, Jessica Chicago, what's up, Jessica?
How are you?
Oh, very good.
How are you?
Um I love your show.
I'm good.
I'm good.
What's up with you?
Well, I wanted to talk about the inconsistencies with the whole Bannon report.
He said that Donald Trump was uh uh Jr. acted in a treasonous manner when he talked to the Russians, and at the same time, he said that you know, uh it Trump didn't want to win.
Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Why would you commit treason if you didn't want to win?
Look, I I read the beginning of Michael Wolfe's piece, and it talks about I'll give you one example.
And and what another example is, you know, uh he reports in the book that oh that Trump didn't know who John Boehner is.
And then they went back on Trump's Twitter account, and on at least five prior occasions than what they were talking about, Trump mentioned Boehner.
That ought to raise a red flag right there.
You know, in the instance where he mentions me in this book, he never called me to fact-check it.
I mean, the New York Times, when they did their magazine piece, called me 17 times about fact-checking information.
And that's that's called reporting.
You know, so some anonymous source can say Sean Hannity did this and he and he writes it?
It's ridiculous.
Now the other thing is so I don't know, apparently Steve was on his radio show last night on Sirius XM and apparently was praising the president.
I don't know what else he said about, you know, but I know for a fact that Steve Bannon knows this Russian probe is a bunch of crap.
President States is a great man.
You know, I support him day in and day out, whether going through the country given the Trump miracle speech or on the show or on the website, so I don't think you have to worry about that, but I appreciate the kind words.
Look, I I'm not sure what he said, if he said it, why he said it, I don't know.
And to me, it's all one big distraction anyway, because there is no it's 18 months of Russian collusion, and we've got nothing.
Nothing.
And, you know, at some point, you know, even the liberal media has to give it up.
I the only thing criticism, if you will, if it's abandoned, I just think when you work in the White House and you have that honor, that that it's solely to serve the American people, the agenda of the person you work for, and it's not, and I think it's a I I think it's it should be an unwritten code about confidentiality.
Now I know in recent years that's not been the case.
And we all love gossip.
And we all love, and and this book is full of it.
And some people are interested.
I'm just not.
800-941 Sean is a toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
But I sleep better at night, not given a rip.
I care about the country.
I care about the agenda.
You know, these economic statistics.
I'm waiting for an explosion.
I want to get more things accomplished.
Oh, we got the opportunity.
Why is Sean Spicer suggesting he's screwed up as press secretary?
I guess is that he putting that in his new book.
It's like a big headline.
I don't think he's screwed up at all.
I think it's the hardest job in the world.
Well, it sounds like he's being too get let's get Sean Spicer on the program tomorrow.
I'm gonna straighten that out.
He didn't screw up at all.
He did fine.
Everyone's micro men, well, you didn't say you were hiding in the bushes.
Who cares?
All right, looks like we may have some breaking news.
Uh can you confirm this, Linda?
I see on uh Twitter breaking 911.
Colorado State Capitol is on a lockdown after a shooting had taken place there.
Now there's a lot of state-of-the-state addresses, I guess, going on at this particular time.
I don't know if that's happening out in Colorado.
Anyway, uh what they're saying is Colorado Capitol on lockdown, reports of shots fired this afternoon.
The Denver Police Department officers are responding to the uh Capitol.
There's a large police presence in the area.
If you're around the area, around the Colfax Avenue area.
Doesn't mean a lot to me, but if you're in Colorado, I hope it means a lot to you.
Hope and pray, nothing's happening there.
And uh we'll monitor it and we'll let you know anything that is going on.
You know, one of the things that I think was probably the most amazing is the reaction, and I I went into great detail about this in terms of the show yesterday.
So Donald Trump makes a a statement about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and the fact that Kim Jong-un is saying the nuclear button is on his desk at all times.
Well, will someone from his depleted and food-starved regime please inform him that I too have a nuclear button, and it's much bigger and more powerful than any of his and my button works.
Now, the media's reaction to this was utter insanity.
Let me play it for you.
We tweeted North Korean leader Kim Jong-un just stated that the nuclear button is on his desk at all times.
Will someone from his depleted and food-starved regime please inform him that I too have a nuclear button, but it is a much bigger and more powerful one than his.
And my button works.
That's right.
Happy New Year, everybody.
APPLAUSE We have two mediacs with nuclear warheads bragging about who has the bigger button.
He is not really being cavalier with a threat about nuclear war.
He's being cavalier in a way that makes him seem demented and deranged and makes no serious of our series allies or adversaries around the world think that he's a serious person talking in this way about the most serious threat that the world ever faces.
Do any thought that President Trump might be less provocative or even scale back his Twitter habit in 2018?
Well, you can safely throw that out the window.
The president unloading in his first day back here at the White House, 16 tweets, mainly a mixture of talks and threats, including raising the prospect of nuclear war, a shot at North Korea's unpredictable leader in language that many people noted seemed better suited for the playground than the presidency.
Tweeter in cheat.
Mocked North Korea's Kim Jong-un yesterday, saying that the nuclear button on his desk is much bigger and more powerful at his works.
Is this kind of a crazy game we're playing?
You know, he something needs to be medicated and hospitalized at this point, or he's going to just kill all of us.
This is language that would have been rejected from the script of Dr. Strangel.
This is a president of the United States doing a measuring contest about nuclear weapons.
We can't begin to normalize this.
This is dangerous, this is childish, this is unprecedential, it's not fitting the leader of the free world.
I think we could apply a test to his 16 tweets today.
The test would be if this were the leader of shh this were the leader of Germany or China, or Brazil.
What would we say?
How would we cover these tweets?
We would say these are the messages from a person who is not well, from a leader who is not fit for office.
I've asked uh Twitter spokesman, does this violate Twitter's terms of service, uh making this kind of threat toward North Korea?
Uh so far, no immediate comment from the company, still waiting to hear.
I think they're trying to decide if this kind of tweet, referring to a nuclear button that he knows how to use and it works.
Whether that actually is a violation of the terms of service because it may threaten violence.
Doom and gloom.
You know, this is not the first time that we have seen the only thing the media likes is appeasement.
They're not going to be happy with President Trump for saying uh we're not going to take your threats idly, and we're not going to stand by and let you threaten the United States of America.
No, they prefer something, you know, when Reagan said the evil empire, oh, that caused, oh, he's going to start World War III, everybody predicted at the time.
Well, he ended the Cold War and we didn't fire a shot.
And he brought the former Soviet Union to its knees because they couldn't keep up and build guns and butter at the same time.
And so it worked.
The same thing, you know, oh, we begin bombing in ten minutes.
Oh, that's scary.
And he was said it before a weekly radio address, and and people panic.
Oh my see, he really has this sick mentality.
He's gonna start a war.
George W. Bush talked about the access of evil.
And Donald Trump sends out uh, you know, calls uh a dictator, a murdering dictator, thug, you know, little rocket man, and the media can't handle it.
Now we've got that going on.
You know, unless he bat I think if he got down on both knees and begged and tried to bribe Kim Jong un the way that Clinton bribed Kim Jong ill, maybe that would make the media happy, although I don't think there's anything he could do.
You know, if he personally flew a plane in into or Tehran with another hundred and fifty billion dollars to bribe the mullahs that have been pledging to destroy the United States and uh Israel and burning our flags and chanting death to America and death to Israel.
I uh uh short of driving a flying 150 billion in like Obama, I don't think there's anything he can do that's ever gonna satisfy the appeasers that are in the media or in the left wing of the Democratic Party, which is the whole Democratic Party today.
Anyway, joining us, these are very complicated issues.
You're dealing with, you know, the bribery attempt that failed in North Korea, and now we're facing the consequences of not many good options, and we'll face the same difficulties with Iran if in fact they don't overthrow that regime before they get the nuclear weapons.
That could be a modern-day Holocaust, radical Islamic terrorists with nuclear weapons.
Colonel Oliver North is back with me.
How are you, my friend?
I haven't talked to you in forever.
You doing well?
Happy New Year, buddy.
Yeah.
I miss you.
Where are you been?
How was your how was your holiday?
It was great.
All seventeen grandkids.
Oh my gosh.
At the end of a week plus, I think we went through about five fifteen gallons of milk with the ten boys.
Yeah.
The seven girls have granddad wrapped around their little finger.
Oh, of course.
And it was a wonderful time.
When they finally all went home two days ago, we were exhausted.
No, no, no, listen.
The good thing about being a grandparent, and I don't know, but I'm guessing.
You will.
You will.
Well, I guess it was when you hand them back.
I mean, you could take the kids to fishing, you can take them to Disney, you can have all the fun you want with them, and then say goodnight.
Have fun.
I'll see you later.
No, no.
We're we're now teaching them how to drive.
We're now teaching them, you know, how to how to go out and shoot birds with me and uh teaching them how to sail a boat and things like that.
See, there you go, there you go, shooting those guns and trying to kill the little birdies.
You're gonna you know and holding the Bible study, because yeah, no, we clean our guns and bibles.
Yeah, we're irredeemable deplorables, clinging to our God faith, God uh Bibles and religion.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I was listening to what you were saying.
I think you've heard me say this to you before.
I don't know if the rest of my listeners have, but if Donald Trump walked across the Potomac River, which by the way, you could pretty much do today because it's frozen with ice.
But if he walked across it when it was liquid, the Washington Compost and the New York Times and all the other media would say Donald Trump can't swim.
I mean, it's just cannot do anything right.
I think if he gave every American a million dollars.
No, look at well, you know what?
America's gonna be a far wealthier place because of the tax bill that he got through just before Christmas.
But You know, the the the stuff that's going on with this nuclear button thing, first of all, the President of the United States, and he knows this.
I mean, it's not like this is a shock to him.
Doesn't have a button.
He has an electronic football with encrypted PSYOP and PAL codes in it and the ability to transmit from anywhere in the world.
The scary part of this whole thing is not what Donald Trump said back to to uh on Twitter back to uh Kim Kim uh Young, uh Kim Yong Un.
The scary part is that Kim may well have a button on his desk.
That's the scary part of it.
And then he might hit it.
That would be a scary part.
Good point.
Just bump it on the way out the door to see one of his girlfriends.
I mean, it's it it is a scary thought.
And and I I look at what's happening now, and the media is trying to make this business about the Olympics and the conversations that are happening between Seoul and Poin Yang about the Olympics as somehow separating the South Korean government from the United States.
I I would point out, as you just did, there's lots and lots of things that have happened in the world that apparently the current uh masters of the media don't understand.
There's a lot of history to what I call athletic and cultural diplomacy.
The ping pong with the Chinese back in the Cold War, the ballet diplomacy with the Soviet Union, the art exchanges we did with Spain back when Franco the dictator was still alive in front in Spain, the antiquity exchanges when Egypt was still dominated by the Soviet Union.
Yes, they were, and the baseball defectors that we've gotten out of Cuba.
All those are great opportunities to gather intelligence, to recruit potential spies, and encourage more defections from these evil regimes.
And so that kind of thing happening between Poin Yang and Seoul is good.
What's not good is what's happening right today in terms of the response to the protest movement in Iran.
This is a tremendous opportunity for the United States to do the right thing.
And I'm not talking about what Eisenhower did in 1956 with Hungary.
It's not enough to simply encourage people to stand up to evil.
We have to be able to back them with more than words.
And there's a lot of things that we could be doing.
It's young people who are protesting in Iran today.
They're primarily young.
Average age is about twenty-five.
And that's about forty percent of the country right today.
They are on to the fact that the Ayatollahs have been ripping them off the graft, the greed, the corruption, and the billions, as you just pointed out, much of it in cash from both the United States and the Europeans since the sanctions were lifted after the so-called Kerry Obama Iran deal back in 2014.
If the Supreme Leader Hameni and his hand picked Toadie President Rouhani were half as smart as they pretend to be, they'd have created hundreds of thousands of good jobs, rebuilding the Iranian crumbling infrastructure.
And instead, they pocketed billions, because they're the richest people in Tehran, the Ayatollahs.
They've squandered the rest of it on funding the North Korean nuclear weapons and ICBM programs, propping up the Assad regime in Damascus, paying salaries for the IRG.
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps works directly for the supreme leader.
The rest of the entire country's government doesn't have a damn thing to say about what the IRGC does, what the Qud Force does.
And they've spent billions on doing that kind of stuff, paying salaries for the IRGC and could force militias fighting ISIS, arming Hezbollah and Lebanon, arming Hamas and Gaza, arming the Houthi forces in Yemen.
And what they've got is people that are now on to them for what they've done for quote others, and of course, all of it's to spread dissent, hate, discontent, all kinds of uh of terrorism around the world.
Well, they've been fighting these proxy wars.
Yes.
Well, in fact, what they what they've been doing is wasting the money that they've gotten on that kind of stuff and themselves, unlike helping the people of of Iran.
Well, and it's also now backfired and created an an unprecedented alliance that nobody anticipated with Israel, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, the Saudis, and the UAE.
Uh when we come back, Colonel Oliver North was with us.
I want to ask you, how do we deal with Both situations, Iran and North Korea.
What would you do?
Uh we'll get to that.
We have uh a lot more news we got to get to today.
All right, as we continue, Colonel North with us.
All right, so let's start North Korea.
We don't have a lot of time, but what's the best option?
Because I don't see a lot of good options here.
Well, there actually are.
There's more sanctions that can be imposed on those people who do business with North Korea.
Over the course of the last month, there have been several times when we've observed something through satellite and other surveillance means ships transferring oil, for example, into a country where in the north, north of Poinyang, the temperature is now minus five degrees.
It's going to get colder before it gets warmer.
They need the oil.
And the fact is you could impose more sanctions on the Chinese who are allowing some of this stuff to happen, and anybody else who trades, not just oil, but other things that are important to their economy.
The the idea that the United States is powerless is nuts.
Now we've got the means to dis literally decapitate the regime without using a single nuclear weapon.
We ought to encourage the conversation that's going on between Poyanyang and Seoul about the Olympics.
We ought to make sure that everybody understands we're deadly serious.
The president needs to say every time he opens his mouth about this thing, is that there's an existential threat to civilians in America with a North Korean, Iranian supported North Korean nuclear weapon and ICBM program.
And it is the Iranians that have made this possible for them.
They could not have done it without it.
But we've got lots more sanctions that can be imposed.
And you and what you do is you say unilaterally.
We don't have to get the Europeans and everybody else in the agents.
If you do any business with a regime in North Korea, either named individuals or companies or the entire country, you cannot do any business in the United States.
The banking system is going to look at this and say, wait a second, we we can't afford to lose American business.
We're going to stop doing business in North Korea.
We've not even flexed our muscles yet on this.
Despite what the State Department says, there's a lot more latitude.
All right.
So let's go to these students.
In 2009, we abandoned them.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we but we don't well okay, Obama abandoned.
Yeah, no, that's true.
I mean the United States under Obama.
Good point.
I stand corrected, sir.
Um good buddy.
But the point is is that look, uh we're not going to intervene in the sense that we're going to send troops, but you but those kids aren't going to win with slingshots either, Colonel.
No, they're not.
And and one of the things we have to be very much on guard against is what happened in 1956 with Hungary.
When President Eisenhower encouraged them to stand up to the Soviets, they did.
We did nothing else afterwards.
Here's what we ought to be doing right now.
The United States ought to every single day on Radio Farda, which is uh an arm of what used to be Radio for Europe, and on Voice of America, remind everybody that the world is watching and admiring your stand for liberty and opportunity.
Send that same encouraging message from every democracy on the planet Earth.
And if we had a CIA program worthy of the name, we could launch a massive political action program and a propaganda campaign to expose the crimes and the human rights violations of the Iranian theocracy.
We need to be able to do that.
Look at these guys are perverts.
They're psychos.
They use prostitutes.
They export drugs.
We can't have a nuclear armed Iran the world.
They'll use it.
All right, safe home, my friend.
Uh Semprify Marine.
We appreciate it.
We'll continue.
Uh joining us now, we have Gary Byrne.
He served in federal law enforcement for nearly thirty years in the U.S. Air Force Security Police and the Uniform Division of the Secret Service, also with us, Dan Bonjino, former Secret Service Agent, NYPD, contributing editor of uh conservative review, welcome both of you.
You know, one of the new narratives that has emerged now that the Clinton I'm sorry, Trump Russia collusion story seems to be, you know, gone by the wayside at this particular point.
And after a year of breathless reporting and hysteria by the media, the only thing that they've been able to come up with is, oh, General Flynn lied to the FBI.
Oh, and Paul Manafort did something long before he ever met Trump, not with Russia, but with Ukraine.
And those cases, I guess, are moving forward.
But so now the next thing is to say, well, anybody that looks at Jim Comey and his conduct and the fact that he wrote an exoneration along with Peter Strzok with him and his girlfriend that hate Donald Trump and think he's so loathsome.
You know, anybody that questions the tactics here somehow, you're against law enforcement.
You're against the FBI.
You're speaking out against these incredible institutions.
Well, I've been a supporter of law enforcement my entire life and career and will always be, having many of my family members in law enforcement everywhere from the FBI to the NYPD and you know working in jails and working in family corps probation and all sorts of law enforcement.
So that's just a lie.
And if we say, well, why did Robert Muller not stop, you know, when he had an insider, he had somebody inside of Putin's network in America involved in bribery and extortion and money laundering and kickbacks, why didn't Mueller stop or inform the differing agencies as it relates to the Cypheist deal in Uranium One?
And if you raise this question, apparently it's just whoa, way over the top.
Now, James Comey has been out there tweeting up a storm lately, lecturing the country about what is morally right and good and correct.
And uh I see that you know Dan Bangino has fought back.
He says he pretends the FBI should be free of political influence.
And then Bongino says James Comey has a God complex.
James Comey seems to think that he is a single the single arbiter of what is true and moral and good in the country these days.
And if James Comey wanted to be a politician of his clout score on social media, then James Comey should have run for office.
But this charade, this embarrassing charade, where he pretends that he was above it all, and by the way, pretends that the FBI should be free of political influence, which it should, by the way, while he oversaw an investigation of the Clinton email scam.
You know, all good points.
Is it wrong?
Is it somehow an offense if I'm raising questions about exonerations before investigations?
I'll start with you, Dan Bongino.
Well, Sean, a couple of things you brought up.
On your first point on the narrative, um, that's just uh freaking laughable.
I I mean, if it wasn't sad and tragic, the narrative that conservatives, I mean, and they point out names, yeah, people like you and and me and and all of our friends in talk radio that we're anti-law enforcement.
Like, are you clinically insane?
Are you seriously nuts?
What when the Obama administration was inviting into the White House the uh pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, what do we want dead cops when do we want them now, crowd?
We were the ones saying, uh, wait, what's going on here?
Is this for real?
I mean, we have always had law enforcement's back.
So that switch in the in the quote narrative is disgusting.
And secondly, on Comey, it's the last point I made, and I appreciate you reading that, that I think is the most salient here.
Jim Comey's out there claiming somehow that he's been above this all, he's not a partisan actor, he's not political.
When Sean, you and I both know the only explanation for the Clinton email exoneration and the fiasco that was that investigation, the only explanation is political.
So spare us all Jim Comey.
Uh yeah, you know, your your your Twitter trying to bump your cloud score on Twitter with your nonsense.
Give it a rest.
Gary Byrne, what's your take on it?
Well, what I see with uh Mr. Comey is the same issues I see inside the Secret Service with executives of the Secret Service, which is one of the reasons I wrote my book, Secrets of the Secret Service.
Sean, these people stay in government for so long.
They they think the government owes them a living.
Um the other former FBI director that's doing the investigation is another example of it.
Uh Dan knows as well as I do.
Um, these these people they start out in the Secret Service of the FBI and they jump from one agency to the other.
When people talk about the deep state, this is really what they're talking about, in my opinion, is these government employees that start out with a good intention and then they become politicians and they jump from one agency to the other.
I saw it in the Secret Service where they would, you know, run their course in the Secret Service and then go to another government agency.
Uh we had a gentleman 33 years in the Secret Service, Bill Living Good, and he spent 17 years at the Capitol, uh, the sergeant at arms.
The two sergeants at arms at the Capitol right now are both former Secret Service agents.
These people never leave government service.
And then eventually it seems like they become corrupt.
You see, I make a distinction between rank and file officers and those at the the highest level of of power.
And you know, everyone says, oh, Robert Mueller, that that his integrity is uh unimpeachable in any way.
And they say the same thing about Jim Comey, and I'm looking at Jim Cohn Comey leaking information that he shouldn't have leaked that may be illegal, as why would he do that if he's not acting politically?
And why would James Comey write an exoneration of Hillary Clinton before he even interviewed her or 17 other witnesses involving the case three or four months earlier?
Because they're completely corrupt.
And and I go back to my first book, Secret uh or the actually the book now, Secrets of the Secret Service.
You have to ask yourself this.
Where did the FBI become corrupt?
It became corrupt in the beginning of Bill Clinton's administration.
How did 900 FBI files get from FBI headquarters three blocks down the street in the White House House complex and nobody knew about it?
Come on, that's when they went corrupt.
And I bet you if you if there was a name on those files of who brought them down, let's find out who's running the FBI today.
That's exactly how these things happen.
Yeah.
I mean, Dan Bangino, you've been involved in a lot of investigations in your life.
And uh I'd never heard of an investigation where you're writing the exoneration before you do the investigation.
That sounds to me like it's rigged in the fixes it.
You know, it's funny, Sean.
I know you talk to a lot of cops, but you acknowledge you weren't even a cop, and you can figure this out pretty simply.
Here's how investigators I I think anybody with half a brain can figure it out.
I mean, it's not a massive mental task we're talking about here.
No, and that's what's sad.
I mean, again, we're not doing mental gymnastics to figure out that this is common sense.
The way you investigate a case at the federal, local, or state level, it doesn't matter, is you pinch a guy involved in the scheme, right?
You get a low-level guy in our case, we did a lot of counterfeiting cases.
You get a guy for passing counterfeit.
All of a sudden you say to him, hey, listen, here's what we got you on.
We got you on passing counterfeit, we're gonna charge you with this, this, and this, and then the guy says, you know what?
He talks to his lawyer, he goes, All right, I'm gonna talk.
Here's who I got it from.
And then you go up the chain and you get the king fit of the crime.
You don't get the guy who passes the counterfeit in the beginning, the low-level guy, and say, Listen, brother, you're all good.
Don't you worry.
You're exonerated.
Don't say anything.
But by the way, but we've got to see it in a bigger context.
Because if you if you look at it through the prism of this exoneration allows her to continue her run for the presidency.
He's now trying to impact history here.
This is not a small exoneration of any kind.
You know, and then it raises questions, well, if they didn't have a legitimate investigation the first time, don't we, if we have equal justice under the law, don't we need one now?
And I would argue, yeah.
And I would argue my biggest problem with Robert Mueller is did he have to pick all Democrats?
There's not one Republican that he could have chosen.
Did he have to pick all Trump haters?
You know, and then it gets worse, and then he picks Andrew Weissman, overturned nine-zero in the U.S. Supreme Court in his obstruction case against Anderson accounting.
Tens of thousands of people lost their jobs because of what he did in that case.
And then he puts four Merrill Lynch execs in jail.
That was overturned too by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
And I'm saying, uh Peter Strzok, he's involved in everything.
And I'm thinking that you know, who's going to investigate the investigators?
And really, we're going to put a 35-year general in jail because he lied to the FBI.
Well, I'm thinking, Sean, you had John Solomon on your show this week.
If Solomon's piece, one of the operators of the Clinton server admitted lying to the FBI.
He said, Oh, I don't know anything about deleting these emails.
Then if you read John Solomon's piece, he had a O blank moment where he goes back to the FBI and says, Ah, you know what?
I forgot about deleting all those emails.
I may not have told you the truth.
Sean, and what happened to him?
Well, surely if justice is blind, just like Mike Flynn, he got charged, right?
Well, no, that's not what happened.
He got an immunity deal.
It's a total scam.
You're all being hosed with this ridiculous investigation.
Well, it's more than that.
I mean, uh he apparently promised to cooperate with Mueller and his team, and I don't know what it is that he knows because we don't haven't heard anything that rises to any level of Trump collusion unless you believe that the dossier, you know, if you're paying for a dossier and you're you're hiring fusion GPS and they're using a former MI6 guy, and he's using Russian sources that may have been paid by him, and then they're coming up with salacious details that we all know are not true now.
Uh, aren't they trying to use isn't that Russian collusion, Gary, in Some way, shape, matter, or form?
No, it absolutely is.
And and Sean, something I wanted to mention that you and Dan both brought up.
The ideal that that you guys, as conservative commentators, can't criticize the FBI or the Secret Service, or I can't criticize the Secret Service running my book, Secrets of the Secret Service, is wrong.
Because look, we're not criticizing the rank and file.
We're not criticizing the GS twelves and thirteens that are doing the work.
We're talking about the management that has been in there for so long and and in the FBI and in the Secret Service that they become these corrupt people.
I mean, anybody in their right mind, could you could you imagine um Comey trying to explain explain that?
The the fact that he um he he wrote the letter exonerating her before.
How do you how do you how is that possible?
How is that even under question?
But the rank and file did weigh in, and this goes back to Solomon's column, and that is the sheer volume of classified information from the Clinton server was seen as criminal by the FBI.
And Comey's answer was to take it in-house, not uh provide the field offices that would normally do a good job and a thorough job to do their job.
Well, that's special privilege.
Do I get special treatment if the FBI is investigating me?
No, you will not.
And and by the way, what what are we telling Americans like Sean Hannity that if the FBI ever comes to me and says uh we need some information about X, Y, or Z, my FBI friends tell me don't talk to them.
No, don't because if he's a word now, why is that to me appalling that you're telling me that and that that I know your advice is solid?
Sean because if I say one wrong thing or I misremember one thing, I could be charged with lying.
You're talking to the you're talking to the guy, the first Secret Service employee who had to testify against a sitting president in a criminal law case.
I was there.
You know, uh I I was being told you can't say this, you can't say that.
The FBI threatened to arrest me in front of my pregnant wife.
I learned the hard way.
You know, I respect the agency, the rank and file, but I'm I'm calling, you know, if they show up at my front door, I don't say a word, I call my lawyer, I let him do the talking.
Well, let's take a break.
We'll continue.
Gary Byrne, Dan Bongino, your call's coming up.
800-941 Sean, as we continue.
All right, as we continue, Dan Bongino uh and Gary Burner with us.
All right, let's go back to where we left off, and that is that is it possible that Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for the Hillary Clinton campaign, the DNC that Donna Brazil says she was running at the time, that all the tens of the uh twelve million dollars that they spent on this phony Russian dossier filled with lies and salacious details about Donald Trump from Russians uh to influence an election.
What if in fact that was used as the basis to get a Pfizer warrant against a either an opposition candidate at the time, Donald Trump, or a president elect at the time, Dan?
Well, I got an even worse question for you.
You know, what if the dossier to get a Pfizer warrant was in fact a way to get a Pfizer warrant to get on the record transcripts for information the FBI already had?
I I don't want to confuse anyone, but put two and two together here, Sean.
Why is it that all these Trump campaign officials were seemingly randomly approached by, you know, alleged Russian co-conspirators with email?
Why is that?
Was this all random?
Was it the was it really the Russian government?
I mean, I'm not trying to sound all conspiratorial here.
This stuff actually happened.
I'm just suggesting to you that the dossier may have, in fact, been a reverse targeting tool.
In other words, they claim they were just modern foreign agents to get Trump people on tape to confirm information.
They may have to be a very strong.
Well, that's the whole thing.
We do know a crime was committed against General Flynn, because aren't we supposed to minimize when if they're targeting his future counterpart, that's perfectly legitimate.
But then if they realize that Americans on the line, aren't they supposed to practice minimization?
Aren't they supposed to similarly uh uh practice they're not supposed to unmask, they're not supposed to leak raw intelligence, all of which happened to General Flynn, Gary.
Yeah, it did.
And you know, the funny thing is is the the the the one of the same people that's responsible for unmasking General Flynn was one of the same people running around telling everybody that it was a video tape that caused Benghazi.
These people just keep giving the the American taxpayer bad service and and criminality, and and it all goes back to the Clintons and when they came off a market cell in the early 90s.
Um it'll be interesting to see Sean how this this comes out.
I mean, General Flynn got railroaded one way or the other.
Yeah, and a lot of ways.
There's no doubt about it.
All right, guys, thank you both.
Happy New Year to both of you, Gary Byrne and Dan Bangino.
We really appreciate uh you guys stopping by.
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And stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
First, the hurricane that blew through the West Wing today.
Steve Bannon turning on this White House, turning on the President's family.
President Trump's one-time chief strategist and close friend, now calling that meeting at Trump Tower with Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and that Russian lawyer, quote, treasonous.
Michael Wolf, which paints a stunning picture of dysfunction in the Trump campaign in White House and contains stunning quotes from Steve Bannon, who is, let's remember, the president's former top political advisor.
Now it seems Bannon has turned on his old boss.
I want to pull another quote where Steve Bannon says, This is all about money laundering.
The White House obviously on the attack in the wake of uh these allegations by Steve Bannon and Michael Wolf's look it's not just Steve Bannon allegations, it's actually alleged it's allegations from the entire West Wing about a dysfunctional white house and a president that doesn't even read you can hear it from Democrats, money laundering, money laundering, money.
But to hear Steve Bannon raise this issue of money laundering, that that is pretty extraordinary.
The fact that you're having someone like Steve Bannon of all people, former White House strategist to President Trump, making these comments which are a lot more revealing than you would end up hearing from any Democrat at the House Intelligence Committee or the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Some explosive new quotes from former White House chief strategist Steve Bannett talking about the Russia investigation.
The indictment right now of Bannon to Trump is personal, rather incendiary.
Bannon is going at the character and nature of the president.
You can love Steve Bannon or hate Steve Bannon, but he's no dope.
He's a smart guy.
He's distancing himself from Steve Bannon because if this is true, if what Steve Bannon said in this book is true, this is a very unflattering picture of the president.
He looks like someone who was kind of bumbling, who everyone was calling him calling him names behind his back, and no one really thought that he was a serious person.
Thank you, Sarah.
The President says that when Steve Bannon was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.
Does he feel betrayed by Steve Bannon?
Uh does he regret hiring him?
I think the president's statement is extremely clear what his position on Mr. Bannon is.
Uh it's pretty lengthy and pretty detailed, and there's not really much to clarify or to add.
But is there regret then?
I mean, he says a lot in this book.
And and they did have a long and close working relationship.
So is there a sense of betrayal?
Well, once again, I think the president's statement uh fully addresses what his position and what his relationship with Mr. Bannon is.
April.
Sarah, um, when is the last time the president talked to Steve Bannon?
And this is a serious question.
Is the president now blocking Steve Bannon from calling a cell phone?
Uh I'm not aware that he was calling a cell phone.
Um, but I believe the last conversation took place uh at the first part of December.
And what does this do to the base that these two powerhouses are fighting for the Republican Party?
What does this do to the president's base?
I don't think it does anything to the president's base.
The the the base and the people that supported this president supported the president and supported his agenda.
Those things haven't changed.
The president's still exactly who he was uh yesterday, as he was two years ago when he started out on the campaign trail.
His agenda hasn't changed, and he's continuing to fight for and push for that agenda.
And I think the base is extremely excited and happy with the job that this president has done in his first year in office.
Look at all he's accomplished.
I think they're pretty happy with where he is.
Peter?
Steve Bannon has a distinct following.
The alt-right and some people who may not necessarily be for the other, people who are xenophobic.
What happens to you?
Uh, I think that's a question you're gonna have to ask Steve Bannon.
The president's base is very solid.
Uh it hasn't changed because the president hasn't changed and his agenda hasn't changed.
And we're continuing to accomplish a lot of the things that were on the president's agenda as we did last year, and we're gonna do a lot more this year as we move into the beginning of 2018.
All right, news roundup and information overload hours, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941 Sean, our toll free uh telephone number.
There's media reaction to Steve Bannon and Michael Wolff's new book, which I take issue with a number of things in there.
Sarah Sanders at the press conference explaining her position and the president's position on all of this.
You know, it's three days, two days ago.
The media in this country, well, all they cared.
Well, he's about to start a nuclear war.
And it's the same reaction every time.
There is in this country, I have been saying journalism is dead.
It's it's dead and it's buried in this sense.
When do you ever hear the media talk about any of the president's.
successes never why not because they got an agenda what's the agenda well it's certainly not the Trump agenda and there is anger you know look at the Trump economy his approval rating is at a six month high uh he created last year one point seven million new jobs we learned today that payrolls of U.S. companies increased in December uh by the most in nine months consistent with further progress in the labor market and private payrolls rose by two hundred and fifty thousand jobs exceeding all estimates uh in
in a Bloomberg survey.
On top of that, we have the lowest usage of food stamps now in two years in this country.
You have the latest census figures showing Americans fleeing high-tax, high-spending blue states and droves.
You got another record high, the Dow now popping past 25,000.
And by the way, in just 23 trading days from 24,000, you had 60 big records there.
And I can go on and on.
There's a lot of good news out there.
But I know they only want to talk about collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia.
We now have, you know, we have a media that is void of ever talking about solutions, void of talking about the American people, void of talking about substance of any kind, advancing conspiracy theories every single day, and never, ever in touch with where real people are in this country.
And the only thing they apparently want this president to do is
to duplicate the stupidity and the failure of Bill Clinton and what he did by giving billions to Kim Jong il Kim Jong un's father with the hope and the promise this is a good deal for the American people we're gonna make sure he doesn't build nuclear weapons that that did not work out very well just like the Iranian deal's not going to work out very well just like they hated Reagan for saying the evil empire and bombing begins in ten minutes and they hated George W. Bush for the access of evil I unless you're bowing on on
bended knee before a dictator and kissing their ass the media's not going to be happy meaning two bit murdering dictators.
Anyway let's get to our phones and of course our guests here in the final hour free for all we have Jonathan Gillum author of the brand new book a bestseller Sheep No More Christopher Hahn of the ever exploding Christopher Hahn show now on three affiliates across the country welcome both of you well okay but last year was three affiliates you didn't get one new affiliate in a year I'm waiting for my friend Sean Hannity to hook a brother up I don't know what's happening to you.
Well we're up to five seventy five in terms of stations.
Well we'll try and maybe ask a couple to take your hour anyway it's two hours it's two hours two hours.
Happy new year.
So let me ask you you're a big Clint guy.
You like the Clintons right I do.
When Bill Clinton said and announced the deal with Kim Jong il and said this is a good deal for the American people and he then get we'll make sure we have assurances they're not going to get nuclear weapons didn't that prove that bribing murdering dictators doesn't work I don't think that all these deals we did with him were good deals.
You gotta pick up your phone by the way you got to pick up everything I don't disagree with everything you're saying.
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying about the the media just covering the you know extraordinary stuff but some of the things that's see how intellectually honest you are and you got to pick up your phone if you want to be on the show okay I'm on it.
Okay.
It sounds like you have a sports illustrated football phone.
If you could talk into the mouthpiece that would be helpful an off speaker.
Yeah I I've never heard more noise in my life from a guest and this is and by the way it's coming from the blizzard by the way he's supposed to be the radio guy that understands these things and we shouldn't have to explain it to him.
That's what's really outrageous about it.
Can you say what do you like trying to like hide okay dress in white and you can hide you'll be in the blizzard okay put on your snowsuit your little white snowsuit with your hat like you're going out polar bear hunting or um so name me three things that President Trump did in the last year that you really think are great for the country.
What do I think that are great for the country?
Well, I did like what he did with the Veterans Choice Act.
I will say that.
I've said it before.
Two.
Go ahead.
Uh I I'm I'm happy with the choice of General Matt.
Okay, good um Mad Dog Mattis, yeah.
And uh I like that he has retained Obama's FEMA team.
So there you go.
I didn't know that he kept Obama's FEMA team, but whatever.
Um the point is, but the point is Bill Clinton made a b bad deal with North Korea.
Can you admit in retrospect when he told us that giving them billions and energy and supplies and able to keep the nuclear rods that that was a bad deal?
You can admit that in retrospect, right?
I think that you know, looking at it right now, I think that it lasted for a couple of years, but it wasn't gonna last forever, and it didn't last as long as we would have liked it.
So in that respect, it's bad.
Okay, and you would admit giving radical mullahs the chant death to America, 150 billion dollars in in currencies is a bad idea too, right?
That's not smart.
Look, if it buys us any peace, it's smart.
You think you can buy peace?
You really trust the Iranians if we give them a hundred and fifty billion dollars, you trust that they're not gonna build nuclear weapons.
I think right now it looks like they aren't building nuclear weapons.
I think right now they are building nuclear weapons, and I think you're naive to believe otherwise.
Well, I I think that's something that we could test in this agreement, so we should use that test.
So you believe that bribing dictators is a good foreign policy.
I think it's been our foreign policy.
I didn't ask you that too.
Is it good policy to bribe dictators?
Whether it's good or not, it's our only choice at the moment.
Well, it's not our only choice because there's no bribery going on, Jonathan Gillam with with Donald Trump.
No, absolutely not.
And can I just say this one thing about Chris and his phone?
Uh, it doesn't surprise me.
He's a he's a Clinton supporter.
It sounds like he's in the bathroom, which is where the Clintons kept their servers.
So that doesn't surprise me.
Stop.
That's where they all they all go to.
Well, I don't know.
They had to fire a Chappaqua, and I mean this sincerely.
I'm glad nobody was hurt, but I mean they might have burned them.
We'll find out in a couple of years.
I mean, they tried Bleach Pit, they tried acid wash, they tried the leading, they tried hammers.
I but why wouldn't they just try burning the thing?
Well, it doesn't surprise me, but they have I can still recover stuff from burnt.
And for all of you in the liberal media, please know that was an attempt at humor.
If you didn't laugh, you have no sense of humor.
I laughed.
All right, go ahead, Jonathan.
So, you know, here here's the deal when it comes to uh dictators and comes to all these uh these different people out there.
I mean, here's here's the reality is that we have really since 1947 when uh we put a uh Secretary of Defense in place.
We have we've never won a war since.
We've gone into deep diplomacy without any force to back it up, and this is the problem with any type of sanctions or diplomacy, is that there's no force backing these things up.
D is there a place for diplomacy?
Absolutely.
Is there a place for sanctions?
Of course, it's a tactic.
Um, but the problem is we don't have force, we don't show force.
This president has actually changed that, and what I see is the most effective thing here is the Trump effect, just like it happened with immigration when he came on board.
His words and for a large part of his tweets have caused a ripple effect where people say, I'm not gonna go across that border right now.
And I think what we have to do when it comes to these dictators is that we have to stand up to them.
We either use force or in the case of Iran, we get on board with whatever type of protest there is, and we do the same thing that's been done in uh in counterintelligence and counter and espionage uh for hundreds of years.
We get in there and we try to help subvert them and give them the support they need to overthrow that uh absolutely uh cult like uh leadership.
Chris.
I'll tell you what, we'll take a break.
We'll see if we can get Chris organized then and inform him of the rules of being a guest on a radio show.
I guess now that he's hosting, he doesn't understand what it means to like put your phone on and pick it up and not use a sports illustrated football phone.
We'll go over the rules, we'll come back, we'll continue with Jonathan Gillam and Chris Hahn straight ahead on the Sean Hannity show.
All right, as we continue, Jonathan Gillam and Chris Hahn uh both back with us.
All right, Chris, you got the rules now on being a radio talk show guest.
I got the rules.
I hope you can hear me okay.
We hear you fine.
I'm I'm buying you a new phone for for your birthday.
What give me an example that you think bribing dictators works?
Especially murdering dictators.
Sean, you're asking me to argue a point that I don't agree with.
I don't like this.
You said it's you said it's our only choice, and it's not our only choice because we're not doing it.
It's a temporary fix to a broader problem that we need to have real conversations to try to come up to a solution to.
You don't just pull the rug out from something that, you know, for the most part has bought us a little bit of time and a little bit of peace.
But you're right.
It's not the best policy.
It's not something that I want to continue forever, but it's something that I think that we have to understand has worked in some situations.
Jonathan?
That's the big that's the big why.
It has not given us any type of leeway or time to get things going.
It's the same thing with North Korea.
It's a perfect example for 50 years.
Uh either it's been diplomacy, it's where we've been trying to give them stuff like Bill Clinton did, or sanctions.
And now where are we?
50 years later, we're dealing with a madman that has nuclear weapons that can definitely kill 27 million people 30 miles away, and potentially can hit the continental United States.
These long-term uh sanctions and debates back and forth and paying people off does not work.
It's just it's unrealistic, and we've created this thing in our minds to say that you know, in in in the world, things can be fair and can be worked out.
With these types of people, it's not.
It's they'll kill us if they get a chance.
It's the bottom line.
And sometimes I hate to say it, but you have to use force and you have to use it effectively, and you have to be have a strategic plan to go all the way.
That has not been the case in anything we've done in the past fifty years.
We gotta leave it there.
Thank you both for being with us.
Jonathan, appreciate it.
Happy New Year.
Chris Hahn, happy new year.
Thank you for being here.
Toll-free.
Our telephone number is 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of this extravagant, a lot of the things I agree with things in the book make a lot of sense.
For example, the guy never gives a press conference, Trump.
We never see him, we never see him interviewed.
He said no to 60 minutes because he doesn't know what you're gonna ask him, and he doesn't have the answers.
So he goes to his pal Sean Hannity, who's been trashing me, by the way.
So let's discuss Sean Hannity for a second.
Sean Hannity's that Sean Sean is my Sean is was my friend as my friend.
I told you.
No, no, I'm just talking.
I know.
And I and okay.
My thoughts and I'm not in favor of him trashing you or you trash him, just aside.
But he is the one that would give Trump the questions ahead of time.
Now, how much Kool-Aid has Sean Hannity drunk before he drowned?
This is the question.
Why sure?
You know, she's got a thicker New York accent than you do, Joyless Behar.
I mean, she's just she's so angry and so bitter.
Here's my question.
Whatever happened to any media ethical standards, does anybody I will give the New York Times credit when they did the the Sunday magazine piece on me?
No, I will.
They literally had fact checkers call everybody like five times to make sure what they were writing was accurate and correct and dates and commas, and I mean they wanted to get everything accurate.
They wanted to get quotes accurate if they had questions about things that I had said.
And I'm like, all right, I gotta give them some credit.
How come Michael Wolf doesn't pick up a telephone and call me and say, hey, you know what the irony is if anybody that knows me, I don't write questions down.
I write notes to myself, and when I'm doing interviews, I look down and I see like one word, immigration, and I go from there.
This whole show is extemporaneous.
You know, the other thing is, and and I was saying this earlier to the guys, you know, we've I mean I've been here over a decade.
Yeah, I know it's a long time.
Aren't you sick of me yet?
Yes.
Yeah.
No, but seriously, like I never I mean, I've never given a guest questions.
I I've never said, Oh, we're gonna talk.
First of all, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
Okay, I'm gonna call you Joy because you sound like Oh, that's a low blow.
That's a lull blow.
Uh, you just said you were sick of working for me.
That was a low blow, too.
It's not okay.
Not okay.
Yeah, Once I agree with Hillary.
Yeah.
Um, but no, you know, we never give questions.
We give topics.
Do people even ask you for them?
They do.
No, we tell them what the topic generally is.
I always say the same thing.
I'm like, guys, I don't have questions for you.
I have no idea what he's gonna ask you.
This is the topic.
I have no idea what I'm listening.
How many times have you told guests that well, that's the topic now, but when he gets on the air, it's gonna probably change.
I have a few guests that have been coming on the show for a long time that don't even ask me for topics anymore because they know when I send it to them, you're going to do the opposite of what I say.
It's not by design, because I don't even know.
I know that.
I'm not saying it's nefarious.
Listen, I if you're gonna be a good interviewer, you got you can't, you have to have your facts, number one.
All right, that's just you have to study, but I study all the time.
The only thing that I write down is I write down like I'm writing it's not questions, I'm writing down facts, facts.
It's a reference.
Yeah, it's like it's a means of me sparking memory, so when I'm in the interview and you're in the moment when all of a sudden a candidate that I'm interviewing says something about immigration, okay, I I know what I want to ask on that.
I already thought about that, but it's not a specific question I write down.
I usually have a here's the trick.
I have a manila envelope, and on the envelope I have the questions.
You can't read my handwriting, I can't read my handwriting.
It's atrocious.
But uh, you know, I just whatever happened to just calling and asking and you know, I mean, I don't know if somebody said that.
I don't even know if it's made up.
Who knows?
I'm not you know what's the funny thing is nothing bothers me anymore.
I just don't care.
I don't care what these people think anymore at all.
I'm so over it, it just doesn't bother me in the least.
And Fox writes me today, well, do you want to respond to this?
I said, not really.
Respond to what?
Yeah, I said it's not true.
Next question.
And that was about the amount of attention I gave.
And if I'm gonna sit there and care about joyless Behar.
But I mean, in all seriousness, what what what is this doing for anybody?
This isn't solving what's happening with North Korea.
No, this isn't solving what's happening with the.
I know what my biggest fear going to sleep now is, besides always worrying about your kids, is that we're gonna wake up and we're gonna see, you know, a thousand, three thousand, five thousand students mowed down in Iran.
Because those mules are gonna do anything to hang on to power, cling on to power.
That scares me.
You don't win revolutions with slingshots, but it's only the superfluous.
This was my drug addict analogy that I was making the other day.
Uh yesterday, as a matter of fact, I made it on radio and TV.
It says they're they're like cracking heroin addicts in the media.
And by that I mean they wake up every day and they need a Trump something to hate.
And if it's a tweet, it's gonna be a tweet.
If it's a comment, it's gonna be a comment.
If it's if somebody says something about Trump, we'll make that, you know, that's their drug now.
That's where dopamine fix comes in.
That's where they get high.
And there's no substantive reporting of any kind anymore.
Which in a way, I guess I should be pretty happy about in this regard.
And the sense that, okay, they leave a wide open void.
It wasn't by accident that we were the number one show on cable news last year.
Both in total audience and the magical demo.
By the way, this is what they do in the media too.
If you if you don't win total audience, then you're gonna go look for some obscure demo.
He lost women 12 to 13.
He lost that.
He got killed.
And women 13 to 14.
Done.
He's that's we slaughtered him.
And that's a game they play too.
But it's um it's never been this bad.
It's never been.
You know, I said the other day when I was on vacation, I was listening to Howard 100 on Sirius XM Radio, and it had the best of his interviews.
And he had some really good interviews.
One of the things about how he does interviews, he knows about the people that that he's interviewing, knows a lot about them.
And but more importantly, he listens to what they say, and he is curiously asking questions.
And, you know, that makes him a good interviewer, and that's how I do interviews.
You can't plan that because something that someone says sparks the question.
How do I plan three hours of radio?
You don't plan three hours of radio.
And that's why radio is such an honest medium.
Because you can't fake it for three hours.
I'm a conservative.
I what am I gonna do?
Start trying to write out a three-hour uh show one day about how I'm gonna be a liberal.
Well, to write three hours of radio would probably take me 22 hours to do it.
It wouldn't be enough time in the day.
And either you can talk or you can't.
Either you're interesting or you're not in some way.
You know, my kids would always come in to my radio studio.
Daddy, why are you shouting?
Hello, how are you?
Welcome up.
And I'm just like, I don't know, but the first time the mic went on, that's what I did.
And it's just you throw more energy in radio than you you do in TV.
Now it's because you're deaf.
So that's a little different.
I'm totally deaf.
Yeah, it's bad.
You know, it's only it's really bad in like a busy crowded restaurant.
On New Year's Eve, we're sitting around the time.
I can't hear you.
Felt like my I felt like Granny Jenny.
She can't hear.
So we always say act like we're talking, and she likes starts playing with her hearing aid.
And I'll say, Well, we and I'm moving my lips and she's like, This damn thing.
You know that's really mean, right?
So it's horribly mean.
Does she know you do that?
Oh, yeah, she's hip to it.
You know what the headline is gonna be.
Mean to old people and his own grandma.
Granny Janny loves me.
Are you kidding?
She's I'm not mean to Granny.
I'm very nice to Granny.
Thank you.
She is the the matriarch of the family right now.
So, of course, and the only grandparent my kids hasn't.
She's been a great grandparent.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones.
Uh let's say hi to Tom in Fort Lauderdale.
What's up, Tom?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Yeah, me too.
It's the first time I've been having to get I've been trying it for a year.
Uh when you're talking about wiretapping phones, uh the the government, this really happened to me.
Last year after the election, I was talking to a client on a financial advisor, and we were talking and we were mentioning Republicans, Democrats.
Uh Trump.
And all of a sudden a voice came on the phone, a recorded voice, he said, This phone call is being recorded.
So I told my client my client, I said, hang up.
So she hung up.
I called her back and I said, Tell me you heard what I heard.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I absolutely heard that.
So when you're talking about Listen, Bill Benny says Bill Benny says every call text email is being di metadata stored, and this is a thirty-four five-year veteran of the NSA.
And I've had other long-term professionals say the same exact thing.
You know, do I know for a fact?
No.
Uh it would be scary because that would be against unreasonable search and seizure, especially if the government uses it.
And I think that's what the fear of our founders and our framers were that in fact government would oh would misuse and abuse their power.
That would be an abuse of power in every way.
Uh Ray in New Mexico, what's up, Ray?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good, sir.
What's happening?
Hey, uh, a couple things.
One, I I wanted to say I really enjoy your show.
You know, I don't know if anybody's ever told you this, but you think and the way you act is just like a contractor.
You were a contractor, right?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, so am I. I just retired, plumbing and fire sprinkler.
And I like the way your brain processes.
Contractors, you know, I I that's what I love about Trump.
He's got that same thinking mentality.
That's the beauty of it.
Uh, you know, you don't put a roof on a building that ain't been stick framed.
It seems like that's the way the liberals think they want to, you know, pour the slab after the house is completely built.
Their their whole brain process is completely screwed up.
But I enjoy I want to say that.
That's what I've been really enjoying.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
You know, you gotta think well, you gotta think when you everyone thinks being a contractor is easy.
It's not.
It's hard work.
No, no, no.
It's not it's not even close.
This is an easier job, I can tell you right now.
Yeah, I can I can imagine.
I bet you're happy to be doing that.
Yeah, but uh you know, but look, you st I you still get the living crap beat out of you every day.
So everything has an upside and a downside.
Isn't that the truth?
I just I I have a missing chip at this point.
I've turned it off, I don't care.
Catherine, Providence, Rhode Island.
What's up, Catherine?
How are you?
Hello, how are you?
Um I I listened to you yesterday, but I I didn't get on the air to call in.
But I just wanted to say, and I hope you don't take it too critically, but I'll try to explain it well.
Um, you know, you were really very emotional about the unrest in Iraq, and I know there's a lot of people in Iran, not Iraq.
I know there's a lot of people suffering over there, but I guess I just worry a little bit about the United States uh getting a little bit too involved in uh other countries' issues.
And I remember in Iran, as a matter of fact, you know, we did have uh a pro-US guy over there, the Shah of Iran, and he had his own, as I recall, he had his own little private jails and tortures and all that, and finally there was a revolution there, and people really resented the United States for having kind of a yes man in there who was causing a lot of suffering, I guess, and now they have the Islamic Republic as a result of that.
So I guess I Catherine, let me ask you a question.
I I think you agree with me.
You don't want you know, America to get involved in in foreign conflicts.
I don't want that either, right?
Yeah, right.
Okay, because you know what?
Too much American treasure.
You know, we we fight these wars, we don't fight them, you know, w they we put handcuffs on our troops, uh, they have rules of engagement.
I don't want any such thing.
Yeah.
But on the other hand, if we can help the freedom fighters there overthrow this regime, it would be good for them because I believe the natural state of men is to be free.
It would be good for women and minorities that are persecuted in that country and killed on a regular basis and tortured on a regular basis.
It would allow freedom that they they have not had since the days of the Shah.
That would be a good thing.
It also would probably result in a better geopolitical uh situation for the U.S. and the entire Middle East because Iranian hegemony and radical mullahs with nuclear weapons has the potential of a modern day Holocaust, and that would be a disaster.
Well, I I guess so.
I guess you know I think a lot of some people would dispute the fact that when the Shah was there, there was a lot of freedom, and those are the people that rose up.
Listen, I'm not I'm not sticking up for the Shah, but it was certainly better than the Ayatollah Khomeini coming out of exile back in nine nineteen seventy-nine.
Yeah.
And but I'm look, I uh look, I am just saying that if you saw a neighbor screaming for help next door to where you live, don't you feel that if you can help in any way, you're supposed to help, right?
If there's a if there's a family on your uh husband and wife that live on your street and they're they're shouting at each other and they're obviously having a big a big battle and a discord, you know.
I I think it's the better thing for a neighbor to do to kind of like make it.
But if you think it's if it's rising to the level you think it's gonna get violent, or it is violent, what are you gonna call you call the police?
I don't think you're not gonna be able to do that.
I don't think there's okay, but there we with all due respect, there is no world police.
And you have these students now risking their lives.
And all I'm saying the first thing we should offer is moral support.
If we can offer communication support so they can get those images so the world can see what's going on there, that'd be a good thing.
And the next thing is um you don't wing win revolutions with slingshots.
If the world would help in some way, they've got to fight their own battle.
We've we had our revolutionary war in this country, and many, many died for the cause of of liberty and the cause of freedom.
And I don't think it's our job to go in there and fight that war for them.
We can't afford it anymore.
And nor does it work because every war now gets politicized.
Anyway, I'm glad you called.
I think we just have to stand in solidarity and and hope and pray for the world's sake and their sake that they can succeed somehow.
And that somebody will take these radical mullahs out.
That'd be the ideal situation.
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