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	All right, some breaking news.
	We've got Gloria Allred momentarily is expected to hold a press conference.
	When that happens, we'll bring it to you live.
	It is assumed it is another accuser as it relates to Roy Moore.
	We'll bring you that information as it becomes available.
	Also, there is a deadlock in the Menendez trial in New Jersey, and the jurors have been told to go back into the deliberation room.
	Occasionally it works out, usually it doesn't.
	That means hung jury, possible retrial.
	We don't know what's uh what's going to happen.
	And we've got so much other news today that we are going to get to.
	Uh New Gingrich checks in today.
	You have two congressmen, Freedom Caucus members, Jim Jordan, Matt Gates of Florida, have literally decided the time for waiting is over on the email server scandal, on the dossier scandal, on all scandals involving Clinton, Uranium One, and more, and they're demanding that the attorney general appoint a special counsel.
	And they said, Mr. Attorney General, it's time to do your job, and they will get to that today.
	Also, we're going to have a combined, what, almost 80 years experience in national security today, Bill Benny and Kirk Weebee, as they look into all of the issues involving hacking and surveillance and whether or not the tools of intelligence are being turned on we, the American people.
	You know, we've we've got to protect ourselves, but I digress.
	Let me start where I where I need to obviously start here.
	Um I want to start first with a very appreciative, humble thank you to all of you.
	Um and I want to explain what is really happening in truth because it is a clear and present danger that anybody that is a conservative, and frankly, it has to do with the president, a lot to do with the president.
	If you support the president, support his views, support his agenda, um, and you're a conservative and you're in the media, they absolutely there are groups of people that want to silence conservative voices.
	It's that severe an issue.
	But so this weekend, um, I had a lot going on.
	Uh my brother-in-law in an operation, sweet baby James, he's fine.
	I was in the hospital with him for a number of hours, and actually worked out at my benefit because I had no idea All hell was breaking loose without me, and I actually enjoyed it.
	Um, but let me tell you what's happening.
	There is in this country, there are paid hired guns.
	That's the only way to describe them.
	And that their goal and their job is to silence any and every conservative voice in this country.
	And they have done everything possible over many, many years, have told so many lies about me over many, many years.
	They have purposely distorted me and every other conservative for many, many years, and what they try to do is write out of Olinski's playbook, ISO target, isolate, and go full force against one at a time.
	You've heard about these things in the past.
	It started up again.
	Well, it's really been an ongoing thing for a year.
	It's not, it just got heated up this weekend for a reason I'll explain in a minute.
	But I just want to first acknowledge this show and every conservative show, and my show on TV does not survive without your support.
	Number one, they can't stand we're number one and cable in the ratings.
	They can't all across cable.
	My show is the number one show.
	You have made that happen, not me.
	We try to do our job and put on the best show we can every night, and there are many people that enjoy, like hearing something that doesn't parrot the Democratic Party because most of the media is abusively biased.
	So this group is formed.
	Who is Media Matters for America?
	They are the number one anti-free speech, pro-censorship group in America today.
	This is a group that is funded.
	Well, in part they got money from George Soros, but they're funded by mostly anonymous, although we know who some of them are.
	Millionaires and billionaires.
	They want to stay anonymous.
	And a group like Media Matters, they're basically the hired guns of censorship.
	And their job is to go out there every day and lie and distort and propagandize against every conservative voice in the country.
	And you've got these anonymous people, millionaires, billionaires that are paying them handsomely to be their hired guns, and the goal at the end of the day is to silence every conservative voice that they possibly can.
	This is the very definition of liberal fascism.
	Let me be clear.
	Imagine they're successful, and Sean Hannity's off the air.
	I'm off Fox.
	Imagine Fox is off the air.
	Imagine a world where Rush Limbaugh is not on the air 12 to 3 Eastern, 9 to noon Pacific every day.
	Imagine Glenn Beck.
	I have disagreements with Glenn Beck.
	They've been after him for years too.
	That you don't have Glenn 6-9 or 9 to noon, depending which time zone you you live in.
	Imagine a world without Mark Levin.
	Imagine the great one.
	Thank me.
	Imagine a world where three to six Eastern or three to six Pacific or six to nine Eastern, you don't hear his voice.
	Imagine you don't hear Laura Ingram's voice, Tucker Carlson's voice, Michael Savage's voice.
	Every anybody that has in is a conservative, it is an unrelenting, well-organized, well-financed effort to silence our voices.
	Their tactics are lies, propaganda, distortion, selective editing, and every other thing that they can they can use to silence voices.
	So this is who they are.
	This is what they do.
	They are the biggest anti-free speech pro-censorship group in America.
	And they are paid by anonymous leftists that if they had their way, ultimately, they would alter and change America forever.
	Now we're looking into, we're looking into, yeah, just tape it.
	We are looking into whether or not we're looking into the funders, the financers, the people, the tax status, and there's so much going on behind the scenes that I don't want to go through all of it now.
	And it's going to be powerful.
	I will say this to you today.
	If you want to know who runs Media Matters, I've discovered a website.
	It's called Angelo Carasoni.com.
	Now it's fascinating.
	They're hired guns to attack conservatives.
	And you'll see statements that are racist.
	You'll see statements that are anti-Semitic.
	You will see statements that are anti-gay.
	You will see statements that are anti-transsexual.
	You will see statements that if any conservative ever uttered them, they would use as a predicate to start a campaign to silence the conservatives.
	Now, all of this got started last week when the Judge Moore issue came up.
	And I could not be any more clear or unambiguous on this program about where I stand against evil, where I stand against pedophilia if it happened, where I stand against somebody that would be guilty of what Judge Moore is accused of.
	And the fact that the statute of limitation, you are not fit to serve.
	I went through, I went through chapter and verse and chapter and verse.
	Now I have also, I went through chapter and verse that I have learned very valuable lessons being on the air for 30 years on radio, and now my 23rd year at Fox.
	And some of the valuable lessons I learned is with Richard Jewell.
	I told the story a number of times.
	Richard Jewell was first thought to be a hero in the Olympic bombing case.
	Then all of a sudden the AJC prints, well, he fits the profile of a lone bomber because he lives with his mother.
	I was on the air, and I said, that doesn't mean he's a bomber.
	That's and I I believe in the presumption of innocence for every American.
	And let me also be clear.
	Well, Hannity, what about the Clintons?
	Yeah, I did my own work.
	I researched the Clintons.
	And what did I find?
	I interviewed Paula, Jennifer, Juanita, Kathleen, and so many others.
	And then I made my decision based on facts, evidence.
	Then the world found out it was all true anyway with Monica Lewinsky.
	And then the lies and the smear and besmirchment of her.
	That's a separate issue.
	So I just want to be clear.
	You are talking about Media Matters is run by a racist, an anti-Semite, anti-gay, anti-trans, bigot.
	Angelo Carasoni.com will link it to my website, Hannity.com.
	Now, I am a believer in freedom of speech.
	You've never heard me in my life on this program ever support a boycott.
	I'm not going to support a boycott of Kerrick.
	Now, what's fascinating about this is they went out with a list of, I think they said five or six, I don't remember what the number was.
	All these people pulled off Sean Hannity's show.
	Well, boycott's working, working, working, working.
	Now, Kerrig, interestingly, gets a tweet from that president of Media Matters.
	And what we discovered is that some social media person, unbeknownst to them, had no idea that he is the biggest pro-censorship, anti-free speech guy in the country and runs that organization.
	And then they said, oh, well, we're taking it under consideration and we're pulling, we're going to pull our ads off to Sean Hannity or Hannity, the TV show.
	Well, I just checked with the with the advertising department.
	Um, they're not a big advertiser on my program.
	All the people they listed are not big advertisers on my program.
	And many of you unbeknownst to me see all of this happening, see this effort to get me fired, see this effort to silence my voice, and you started breaking your Carib coffee machines, and it was hilarious.
	And I just kind of retweeted some of the video.
	You're dropping it from like the second floor and smashing it.
	Somebody smashing it with uh with a sledgehammer, somebody's slashing it with a hammer or beating it with a hammer, somebody's beating it with a golf club.
	I I was stunned.
	And it's very much appreciated in this sense that you were doing it to defend me.
	You were doing it to defend the bigger principle of conservatives ought to have a microphone in this country.
	You saw this and you know this, and it's happened to so many other people that you wanted to engage in this.
	Now I don't have enough time in this segment.
	Now the Kerrig people have taken notice.
	The CEO has apologized now for taking sides.
	And I let's just say there are things happening that I can't talk about now.
	I'm gonna ask a favor.
	Hold your fire, please, please.
	There is, in my opinion, Kerrig was a victim of a group that has a radical agenda and they didn't know.
	I am convinced.
	I am going to be giving away a lot of coffee machines.
	All of you that broke yours will be getting one.
	I will I will, because you did that for me on your own.
	And I so you you ought not, these coffee machines are expensive.
	All right.
	I don't know what brand it's gonna be yet.
	Um I just don't know.
	You want me to keep going?
	Is that what you're telling me?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Um, but I'm going to be giving away at least 500 coffee machines this week as a way of saying thank you for all of you who have supported me.
	But I also, I don't want to be unfair either.
	I truly and honestly, after reading the statement of the CEO of the Kerr Coff Coffee Company, and I have five Kerry machines myself.
	I absolutely believe him, and I absolutely believe this was a social media person that had no idea who they were dealing with.
	There's also the bot campaigns that they use, which is it seems like real people, they're not real people.
	And these companies get inundated, 5,000 emails at once, and they think it's real people.
	And it usually is not.
	It's usually a couple 100.
	They're all usually paid and bought and paid for, hired guns to destroy freedom of speech.
	So it's a it's a real threat.
	But I have so much more to say.
	And by the way, these videos, I think are the funniest things I think I've ever saw.
	I was crying in laughter all weekend when I saw them.
	I'm gonna explain so much more when we get back.
	I don't want to waste this is too important because if they win, okay, I'll be I'll be on a beat somewhere.
	But so will Rush.
	And Fox won't be there.
	And our voices will be smashed, and our country and freedom of speech, which we should all be embracing, will be gone in this country, and their efforts will be rewarded.
	Who are the millionaires and billionaires?
	TikTok.
	We'll continue.
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	The Kerrig CEO apologized for taking sides.
	And by the way, how cool is it that they advertise on my show?
	They advertise on Fox.
	They advertise on CNN.
	They advertise on MSNBC.
	They don't take sides.
	Guess what?
	Liberals drink coffee.
	And so do conservatives.
	They drink coffee.
	You know, oh, here's the latest thing.
	So all I'm just, by the way, it says on my my Twitter, retweets are not endorsements.
	So I just sent out videos.
	I'm not looking.
	They expect me at Media Manners to research every single person I've ever retwitted.
	I have no idea who they are.
	Hannity just retweeted a white supremacist.
	I'm like, guys, this is how obscene and absurd it is.
	These paid hack hitmen.
	That's all they are.
	They are hired guns.
	The people that fund them are what people that want to radically change America, not the Democrat liberal.
	Radical leftists shred the Constitution as we currently configure it.
	And they want a world without me, Fox, Rush, Mark, Laura, Michael, and anyone else you bill, anyone else you might like.
	They want to get rid of every conservative voice.
	What you did to support me is amazing.
	I accept the CEO apologizing to today.
	And please stop breaking your carrig machines, and I'll tell you about our giveaway coming up.
	You know, that's liner by Scott Driving Liberals crazy.
	They literally bubble and fizz like there's a part of me, a really sick part of it.
	I I love a good fight.
	I really do.
	And I was talking to Linda this weekend about all of this, and you know, it does take a little bit of work and it does take some of your time away, but it's so worth it, isn't it?
	I said to somebody yesterday, uh, you know, God bless my friends that are not in my business.
	They're the greatest people in the world, and they write me.
	Oh my God, are you okay?
	You know who did it today is Keith, Keith Kowowski.
	The guy's an inventor.
	He was the inventor of the year.
	And my buddy Keith goes, they don't know the real you.
	This is so unfair.
	I don't know how you live with this.
	And I'm like, Keith, the switch went off a long time ago, trust me.
	Uh it has zero impact on my psyche, and it is predictable as the day is long.
	Now, is it serious?
	Yeah.
	These people definitely want to want to kill this radio program and mine TV program.
	They want to kill Fox and every other conservative voice in the country.
	It's real.
	This is not a game.
	And I just, you know, the fact that everybody now is getting so hip to this.
	I can tell you a fact.
	I never knew until I saw on Twitter that people were breaking their Kerrig machines.
	I never knew.
	I had no idea whatsoever that this was happening.
	It's very humbling because it, yeah, obviously it impacts my life and my career directly.
	But it's much, it's so much bigger than that.
	I'm going to tell you what it mostly is.
	Anybody, they want to they want to take out this president, the hard left in this country, the left in this country.
	I've talked about the forces against him, the deep state, the media, so left wing, the the Democratic Party.
	They don't want him to succeed.
	They want him to fail.
	Then you got, of course, weak Republicans.
	They don't like his style.
	They don't look at the substance of what he stands for.
	It's very Reagan-esque, actually, in so many ways, as I've explained so many times.
	Then you got the Never Trumpers.
	They want to be able to say to the world, see, we were right.
	So you've got these the number one anti-free speech, pro-censorship.
	Media Matters for America that is led by a bigot.
	Just go to Angelo Carasoni.com, read it for yourself and decide.
	My conclusion, he's a bigot.
	And that's what's what makes this so ironic among everything else.
	And they want a world without Fox, without any talk radio, without any conservative voices that have any impact at all.
	That's the world that they they want.
	And if you look at all of this, you see what they do.
	They lie, they deceptively edit, they make things up.
	You know the sad thing?
	This has to come to an end too.
	Regularly, the New York Times, regularly, this is supposed to be the paper record.
	Regularly, the New York Times cites this bigot, cites this group that is basically hired guns for leftist millionaires and billionaires, and they quote them as credible sources.
	The New York Times needs to stop citing bigots as their source.
	Racist and anti-Semites as their source.
	So does the Washington Post.
	So does NBC.
	Media Matters brag.
	They wrote their prime time scripts at MSNBC.
	And they're regularly quoted.
	This guy, Angelo Carasoni is his name.
	Spell it out.
	Angelo, everyone knows how to spell.
	C-A-R-U-S-O-N-E.
	Angelo Carasoni.com.
	We linked it to Hannity.com if you forget how to how to spell it.
	It's fine.
	Um, they're not for open debate in this country.
	I have no problem with liberals and their opinions.
	None.
	I mean, I don't, I everyone has it uh uh the ability to turn off a radio.
	Everybody has the ability to turn off a television.
	Everybody has an ability to pick and choose where they want to get news.
	And I'm going to tell you what's happening.
	Now that we've become the number one show in cable, the second biggest show in talk radio, we now have 570 affiliates in this country.
	The problem is now our truthful everyday defense of the president against the forces against him has been too effective.
	I'm just telling you where we are.
	We have gotten ahead of so many big stories.
	We are now too effective, and now that's why this is particularly intense.
	And let me tell you something else.
	All of the Sarah Carter, John Solomon stories, are also effective.
	The Clintons are in for their day of reckoning.
	The Clintons are up to their eyeballs with groups like Media Matters and their friends and think progress.
	by the way, John Podesta's group.
	These groups want my voice dead.
	That's just a fact.
	And the fact that so many of you are hip to this is amazing.
	Now I want to read something from the head of Kerrig.
	He sent a memo out to employees.
	His name is Bob Gamgord.
	He's Kerrigs CEO.
	And he wrote an apology, basically, following the backlash by all of you smashing your Kerry machines.
	He said, This gave the appearance of taking sides in an emotionally charged debate that escalated on Twitter and beyond this weekend, which was not our intent, he said.
	This is the head of Kerrick.
	Clearly, this is an unacceptable situation that requires an overhaul of our issues, response, and external communication policies and the introduction of safeguards to ensure this will never happen again.
	The nature of social media and the internet news environment is that stories like this explode and generally do not disappear quickly.
	He also apologized to employees for negativity they may have may have experienced as a result of the situation.
	And that's because they went out after this bigot, this paid hired gun of Media Matters, wrote Kerrig on Twitter and asked them to pull off advertising for my show.
	And then Kerrig responded.
	And then my audience responded.
	I was in a hospital when this happened.
	I was with Sweet Baby James.
	I didn't know this was happening.
	I got out of the hospital and my phone exploded like it never exploded before.
	Anyway, so they announced on Saturday they no longer would advertise on my show.
	That news came in reaction.
	That news came in reaction to my interview and my positions with Roy Moore.
	I'm going to get to that in a section in a second.
	And then they went on to say, by the way, they were very, very clear that they support Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC.
	Which, by the way, I have no problem with.
	None.
	Because you know what?
	Conservatives, liberals, independents, uh, libertarians, everybody I know drinks coffee.
	I have five Kerrig machines that I own in my life.
	One at Fox, one here at radio.
	I've got two at home and one in my office at home, and one of my radio studio near my house.
	So I've got five machines.
	It's a good product.
	It's a great product.
	I love the coffee.
	I can't thank you enough, those of you who read that and got angry, because fundamentally it was and is unfair.
	And it's an assault on conservative.
	Conservatives drink coffee.
	Everyone drinks coffee.
	Coffee should be non-political.
	But that's not the environment we live in.
	And a lot of what they're they're promoting is that they lie so often.
	I can only tell you if there is a campaign that they're using that is successful, not the lies they tell and the makeup has make things up.
	Let me say one thing about my coverage about Roy Moore.
	There was Gloria Allred accompanied another woman today that claimed she had a sexual interaction with her when she was underage and says she was violently sexually assaulted by Moore.
	I won't give the woman's name out.
	And she says, Gloria Allred said the alleged victim is willing to testify under oath to the truth of her statement, et cetera, calling on the Senate.
	Now, this also is extended into the world of politics.
	And now you're having people like Mitch McConnell saying Roy Moore should step aside.
	And it's it's obviously seeing, you know.
	When certain people say the accusation is proof, it's not.
	If you listen carefully to my radio show on Thursday, my monologue on TV on Thursday night, my interview with him, Roy Moore on Friday, my monologue on and and everything I talked about on Friday night.
	You've heard one thing that is consistent with Sean Hannity, and I am never going to change.
	I am going to believe in the presumption of innocence.
	I am going to look at all the facts.
	I am going to then make an educated decision when I have all more facts gathered.
	It is fascinating that we get all these allegations against people one month out of elections, a lot.
	What they did to Clarence Thomas was one of the worst examples of a treatment of a human being and a media giddy.
	They thought, oh, Clarence Thomas, we got this credible person, et cetera, et cetera.
	He called it a high-tech lynching.
	We've seen it happen again and again with everywhere from the media never knew Trump could win.
	The media never knew, you know, the media ran in Atlanta in my early days, and Richard Jewell fits the profile of a lone bomber.
	He lives with his mother.
	One of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
	The media was wrong on the allegations against the Duke LaCrosse kids.
	I wasn't.
	I was right in all these instances.
	And the secret, I'll tell you my secret sauce and getting it right and them getting it wrong.
	I don't rush to judgment.
	I wait for more information.
	And if Roy Moore is guilty of any of these things, he's not qualified for any public office ever.
	And I said that so many times last week.
	Also said that even if it's 40 years later, I can understand people not wanting, not wanting to come forward because there's such evil.
	It's such a trauma, it's such violence, it's so dis it's so despicable and disgusting.
	I said all those words.
	When I interviewed Roy Moore on Friday, I couldn't believe the media coverage of it was wow, Hannity asked every question imaginable, gave a fair and tough interview.
	Well, it's too serious.
	It's not political.
	This is too serious an allegation.
	And as a father, as a brother, the I know there are predators.
	I have friends that have been victims of predators of evil people.
	And I want to root evil from our society any way we can.
	Waiting till I make a conclusive decision with limited information.
	Now, you go, well, what about Weinstein?
	You're talking about Weinstein admitted it basically when he checked himself into rehab.
	And we had the audio of the police thing.
	Kevin Spacey apologized.
	Dustin Hoffman, apologized.
	Van Affleck apologized.
	You know, when somebody says it did not happen, then I say, wait for more information, and I don't rush to judgment.
	I will not apologize for being that way.
	In my heart, in my soul, I believe it's the right thing.
	Especially in light of so many times, so many people have rushed to judgment and have been wrong.
	And as I said Friday and Thursday, I don't know the truth.
	I want the truth.
	Now, if that means putting off the election in Alabama so that the people of Alabama get the facts before they go into the voting booth, I would be all in favor of that.
	I really would.
	I want to know the truth.
	If he did these things, he has no business running for any office.
	If he didn't, then I think he needs has every right to make his case before people declare in the media guilty.
	He has every right to do that.
	And I think all of you, if you're accused of something that you didn't do, you'd want the right to defend yourself.
	That is how our system of justice actually works.
	You know, I think reasonable people accept that, you know, look, here's a true a simple truth.
	The Duke Lacrosse case, people lied in that case.
	I knew that case.
	I sat with the parents of some of these kids.
	Their lives will never be the same.
	You know, I've always often wondered, I am a Christian.
	Ten Commandments, human beings break all the other nine in pretty with pretty pretty regular fashion.
	Bearing false witness against thy neighbor.
	If you if you de if some somebody that means that God understood who is the person chief among them was Jesus himself.
	False allegations.
	And if somebody it ruins your name reputation, your life's over.
	So I think we all have to be very careful.
	Now, last thing on Kerrick.
	I am going to be all of you, I'm gonna ask you this.
	See the headline is CEO apologizes for taking sides.
	I accept the apology of the Kerrig CEO.
	I accept that it was frankly, I think they were victims of this group that they knew nothing about.
	Media Matters, this bigot Angelo Carasoni, and I feel sorry that they were dragged into politics.
	Then I thank all of you for what you've done.
	I ask you to please hold your fire.
	They were victims here.
	I'm telling you, I know how this works.
	They got 5,000 robotic, you know, tweets at once and and emails at once, and they panicked.
	Whoever the social media person is panicked.
	And then they wrote what they wrote.
	They were never a big advertiser on my show.
	I'm just being honest.
	Not on my show.
	But they shouldn't be unfairly targeted.
	There are people who work for Carrigoo lives and their their livings are in jeopardy here.
	We've got to be careful here.
	I don't want people losing their jobs because sales drop so dramatically because conservatives don't want to buy their machines.
	By the by tomorrow, I think I'll have the answer.
	I'm going to give away 500 coffee machines because you everyone blew me away.
	Let's I'm asking please a ceasefire on this.
	I I'm gonna even delete all the smashing videos, all the retweets that were out there for the purpose of I don't want to hurt Kerrigan necessarily.
	I believe the CEO.
	I believe that I don't want to see one person lose their job because sales dip.
	Now, when I buy coffee makers, I don't know what brand it's gonna be.
	I'm gonna have a conversation with some people, and but I will be giving out at least 500.
	If you broke yours, we're gonna put up on my website a way to get in touch with us.
	He is prove you busted yours, boom, I'll send you a coffee maker.
	I'll replace it.
	And I'm gonna buy nice ones.
	I'm not gonna buy crappy ones.
	All right.
	So last word is thank you.
	I I fully know, am humbled by and appreciate and love all of you for coming to my defense.
	The truth is they do want this show and every conservative show dead.
	Just a fact.
	You keep us alive.
	Thank you.
	And it's not gonna stop, by the way.
	This will go on.
	This is just, you know, ongoing nonsense.
	And that's why I don't support boycotts.
	We've learned about uh Donald Trump Jr. eagerly accepting a meeting uh to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from somebody he was told was a Russian lawyer.
	We've learned with the Comey uh plea agreement uh with um George Papadopoulos, former uh foreign a foreign advisor for the Trump campaign, we've learned uh that he was told by a professor with ties to the Kremlin uh in April 2016, long before I knew anything about the hacking or the public knew anything about the hacking, um, that the Russians were claiming that they had damaging information.
	Now you said in January 2017, this year, that you knew of no collusion.
	Did you know of those two events?
	No, I did not.
	And uh the the statement I made at the time was it was was true.
	We had no I had no direct evidence of of collusion.
	Now we had lots of concerns because we were aware of multiple meetings uh that were going on.
	Well uh at least my part was not aware directly of the content of the of these meetings.
	But we were certainly concerned, and the metaphor I've used before is uh I think our dashboard warning lights were clearly on about what was going on.
	But uh to say specifically that we had evidence of uh smoking gun evidence of collusion, uh no, but of course a lot more has come out uh that's uh you know qu uh raises I think circumstantial questions, if nothing else.
	Uh this is an effort to uh again try to undermine uh those quarters that could pose a serious threat to him.
	Also I think it shows the insecurity that he still feels about the election and how Russian interference may have contributed to that election.
	So I think there's a combination of factors that uh are motivating the president at this time.
	Do you know of any compromising material that the Russians might have on him?
	Uh I I have shared everything I know with the uh intelligence committees.
	Um that's not a no or a yes, because we we're we're not privy to the information that you gave to the intelligence committee.
	That's true.
	All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show 800, 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number, you want to be a part of the program.
	James Clapper, others, no evidence of collusion.
	John Brennan won't answer if the Russians have compromising material on Trump.
	And then of course we have Donald Trump.
	I believe Putin believes that Russia didn't meddle in the election.
	Now we've got all sorts of breaking developments and all this.
	Joining us now is former Speaker of the House, New Kingrich.
	He has a piece out on Fox News dot com that says Hillary Clinton's been getting away with unethical illegal behavior for forty years.
	You know, my sources tell me that may very well be coming to an end as now we have Republicans demanding Jeff Sessions appoint a special counsel on all this, or that Jeff Sessions should should resign, and we'll talk to two of those congressmen later.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm I'm doing well, and by the way, that that uh newsletter from Gingish Productions, I I went back, I've been at this long enough uh that I remembered the cattle futures example where she took a thousand dollars and kept investing it in futures until she made a hundred thousand dollars.
	And uh two scholars went out and did a study.
	They concluded the odds were better than a trillion to one that that was impossible to do legally.
	And I think it I think it's clearly it was insider trading.
	She had guys who knew what was going to happen, they gave her they told her what to do.
	She made the money.
	This is when Bill Clinton was first governor.
	And the thing that tells you though is not only that that she was a crook, not only that she got away with it and learned that you can get away with these things, but it also tells you that about how Liberal Democrats think about capitalism.
	They think it's a rigged game because for them it is.
	Uh they they expect to cheat, and so they don't understand this idea of hardworking small business people who go out, obey the law, work hard, you know, create a company, build earn a living, uh, because they assume the whole thing is rigged, which is, by the way, part of what I think comes out of Donna Brazil's absolutely astonishing new book, uh, in which she just levels the Clinton machine and the Clinton organization in ways that I I didn't think anybody would ever have the guess to do on the left.
	Let me ask you, when it comes though, you know, for a year she denied that she knew anything about fusion, GPS, Russia connections, the Russian dossier.
	But now we know differently.
	The Clinton campaign, and she was running according to Donna Brazil, the DNC, the entire operation, uh as it relates to hiring and everything every other operation, she was funding it.
	So that's what, ten, twelve million dollars total that goes to paying for phony dossier that had salacious lies about dr Donald Trump that a former MI6 guy got from Russians and they tried to influence an election.
	Now that sounds like the very thing to me that they were accusing Donald Trump of doing.
	Well, plus it raises the question, which I think has to be answered under oath to what extent was the FBI decision to investigate Trump based on a totally false politically paid for campaign document.
	I mean, does this whole thing all go back to a deliberately rigged poison fruit that the Clinton campaign was paying for?
	But but let me just make a point.
	I don't think it's it's possible to say too often, and I don't think most Americans will ever believe it.
	She just lies.
	You remember when you're shocked, it's always the next lie and the next lie and the next lie.
	She just lies.
	Do you remember when William Sapphire, who since passed away, said she was a congenital liar and the outrage of people.
	Right.
	I think you're right.
	I think they lie with regularity.
	So I start with this premise.
	They were totally greedy about money.
	They were willing to break the law.
	The reason I wrote that newsletter was to say to people, look, go all the way back to 1979.
	This isn't new.
	This isn't sudden suddenly.
	This is the pattern these two people have had for their entire career.
	And yet because we find it so hard to deal with people who are this corrupt, we keep coming back thinking it can't really be true.
	But it is true.
	It's true at every level.
	It's true about how she handled national security.
	It's true about Benghazi.
	It's true about her campaign.
	It's true about deleting 33,000 emails.
	It's true about the corruption of the Clinton Foundation.
	And I hope that there will be an independent counsel, because I I agree with Alan Guelza, the great historian at Gettysburg College, who has said publicly and has written about the fact that the Obama administration was the most corrupt administration in American history.
	Uh more corrupt than the Grant administration, more corrupt than Harding, more corrupt than any administration in American history.
	And had Hillary Clinton won, it would all have been swept under the rug.
	But Jeff Sessions does not have to recuse himself on getting to the truth about the Clintons.
	And he has every opportunity as the Attorney General to insist that the Justice Department look i I don't I don't I'm not trying to get them into a criminal trial.
	I would just like to get all the facts out in the open.
	I'd like to get the American people to see just how deeply corrupt the system was and how totally dishonest it was in terms of lying.
	And I think in that sense, history will then take care of itself.
	Let me ask you about this case with Judge Roy Moore and now another accusation today uh with Gloria Allred, and I guess my my thoughts are, and then you see, look, I've always been a believer in the presumption of innocence.
	I've taken this position my entire career.
	I never apologize for waiting for facts to come in.
	These are serious allegations.
	Uh it would, to me, it would definitely, regardless of whether there's criminal or civil liability here because of statute of limitations, uh, it would disqualify anybody from being a senator or having any other position in the public.
	Uh we now have McConnell saying Roy Moore should step aside, that he believes these women.
	The media is, you know, in five seconds, they just ran out there and it was trial by media immediately guilty.
	Um, what are your general thoughts on all of this?
	Mitch McConnell's now exploring a writing campaign against Moore uh and polls show that the race is tightened.
	What are your thoughts on all of this?
	Well, I think that Tim Scott was the one person over the weekend who made sense.
	Uh Tim Scott, uh senator from South Carolina, said, you know, this is really up to the people of Alabama.
	Um what we know is that all the people who tried to beat Roy Moore in the primary would like Roy Moore to get out, and they'd like to beat him in the general.
	And apparently they would rather have a liberal Democrat for six years, uh, and maybe for the next thirty years, uh, than have somebody that they believe is tainted, who by the way, they opposed long before the Washington Post story.
	Uh what we also know is that Roy Moore apparently is a very tough guy, and he ain't stopping.
	Uh so now it's up to the people of Alabama.
	But this this idea which I heard suggested over the weekend that maybe they wouldn't seed him if he won.
	I mean, are people just losing their minds?
	Under our Constitution, the people of the state of Alabama have the right to decide who their senator is.
	There's no provision that says that the U.S. Senate can decide that they've chose the wrong person.
	Now, whether Moore can win or not, whether he can try to knock down these stories or not, I mean, that's that's his problem.
	And he's the burden is on him to convince the rest of us that he is worthy of being a U.S. Senator, not to convince I shouldn't say the rest of us, to convince the people of Alabama.
	But let's be very clear.
	This is an Alabama Senate race in which he has to talk with the people of Alabama, they have to decide what their duty is.
	Uh, and and I am frankly a little disappointed in people in Washington who take the totally phony news of the Washington Post immediately rush to judgment and then compound by by having read their own statements and decided they were right, uh going a step further.
	This guy's never had a jury trial, he's never been indicted, he there there's never been a chance to to to measure up against his his ac his accusers.
	And I'm not defending him.
	I'm just saying it's amazing to me to watch the wheel.
	Well, you you and I are in the same position.
	I listen, I don't know.
	I remember I remember still when when you were a mere child, I remember Clarence Thomas walking into that Senate hearing room and talking about a modern day lynching.
	And I remember how whipped up and how excited the liberals were and how they had this wonderful witness, and I watched all of them melt as Clarence Thomas just took them to pieces.
	And so I would just say that that that we ought to be a little cautious.
	I'm not picking sides here.
	I'm just saying I haven't interviewed anybody.
	I haven't looked at the evidence, I haven't seen anything which suggests uh you know that the that we know that we know right now.
	And that's why in the next few weeks the burden is on I think the burden clearly is on Roy Moore.
	Uh and he is gonna have to go out and and prove his case.
	Uh and but I do think that that the most destructive thing they could do is set up a write-in.
	Um and again, it it's all outsiders.
	I mean, I don't see any Alabama movement for a write-in.
	Uh and and so I'm just I'm just watching as an observer, uh, trying to understand exactly what the dynamics of this are.
	You know, I learned a valuable lesson.
	I've explained this now many times on the air to my audience, and uh I just want to bring you up to speed.
	You know, when I was in Atlanta, and I remember the Clarence Thomas thing as vividly as you do, and I also remember Herman Kane, who's a mutual friend of ours, as soon as he got out of the race, that no more charges, nothing.
	It all ends.
	Uh, but I knew but I didn't know the day the Atlanta Journal Constitution came out with Richard Jewell, the guy we thought was a hero fits the profile of a lone bomber because he he lives with his mother.
	I didn't know he was listening to my radio show that day, and I said, Wait a minute, that does not make him the bomber.
	And I was the only one.
	And he gave me one of the first interviews he ever did because he had been listening and said I was the only one that was fair.
	You know, but the media's been wrong about Duke La Cross.
	They rushed the judgment.
	They were wrong about Trey Vaughn and Zimmerman and the jury verdict there.
	They were wrong about hands up, don't shoot in in Ferguson.
	They were wrong about Freddie Gray and all those cops who are going to be found guilty in Baltimore.
	Frankly, they were wrong about Trump even having a chance of winning or Obama, and then you bring up Clarence Thomas.
	And and I I am right now being excoriated because I believe in the presumption of innocence, and I practice that and since I was in Atlanta for the reasons I took just mentioned.
	Well, and then let me let me just suggest to you.
	And by the way, he may be all guilty.
	You're right.
	He's he's gotta now show that this is not.
	And if if he is guilty, look, if he is guilty and he can't prove his case and he loses the election, he loses the election.
	But let it be in a fair conversation with the people of Alabama and a fair chance to defend himself, not some lynch mob.
	All right, gotta take a quick break.
	We'll come back more with Newt Gingrich and your calls, 800 nine four one Sean, our toll-free telephone number you want to be a part of the program.
	And uh don't forget we have an amazing Hannity tonight you don't want to miss.
	All right, as we continue, a former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	Let me just suggest to you an interesting test.
	Go pull up all the Republicans who said Trump ought to drop off the ticket uh when the when the tapes came out from from uh the uh access Hollywood.
	You know, it'd be very interesting if we take the Access Hollywood tapes.
	Look at that weekend, how many people said, well, maybe you ought to drop off the ticket and measure them against exactly the same people who are now for Roy Moore dropping off the ticket.
	And now you know what the lynch mob looks like.
	Um there are people out there whose desire to to automatically assume every Republican should be defeated is amazing.
	Uh and it doesn't help grow the Republican Party.
	And I'm again, I'm I'm not particularly for you know, I'm not advocating Moore's election, uh, but I do think that there ought to be some presumption of him having a chance to make his case to the only people who matter in this race, and that's the people of Alabama, not the New York Times editorial board, not the Washington Post editorial board, not incumbent senators from around the country, but the people of Alabama.
	And I I'm I want to watch and see exactly how this this works out.
	This is a West Point graduate, very tough guy, who's had a long career, uh, and it's pretty clear from what we've seen so far he ain't backing down.
	Uh so, you know, it's just a it's a it's a fascinating moment in American history.
	And I think it's compounded because notice how many left wing Hollywood types are not being you know, they're not being exposed for 40 years ago.
	They're not being exposed for a kiss.
	I mean, the number of people in Hollywood and and and in the news media who are now being turned out because of actual behavior in the recent past, uh, is pretty stunning, and sets sort of the backdrop for all this.
	I'm never gonna apologize, Mr. Speaker.
	And there are people today trying to get me fired.
	I will never apologize for the presumption of innocence.
	I think it is fundamental to who we are as a society.
	You know, and when we get inform I don't advocate like you do.
	I I want the truth, but I'm not gonna rush the judgment on anybody.
	You know, when I made my decision on Clinton, I was one of the few people that actually interviewed the women involved before I make my decision.
	Um thank you, sir, for being with us.
	We appreciate it as always.
	We've learned about uh Donald Trump Jr. eagerly accepting a meeting uh to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from somebody he was told was a Russian lawyer.
	We've learned with the Comey uh plea agreement uh with um George Papadopoulos, former uh foreign a foreign advisor for the Trump campaign, we've learned uh that he was told by a professor with ties to the Kremlin uh in April 2016, long before I knew anything about the hacking or the public knew anything about the hacking, um, that the Russians were claiming that they had damaging information.
	Now you said in January 2017, this year, that you knew of no collusion.
	Did you know of those two events?
	No, I did not.
	And uh the the statement I made at the time was was was true.
	We had no I had no direct evidence of of collusion.
	Now we had lots of concerns because we were aware of multiple meetings uh that were going on.
	Well, uh at least my part was not aware directly of the content of the of these meetings.
	But we were certainly concerned, and the metaphor I've used before is uh I think our dashboard warning lights were clearly on about what was going on.
	But uh to say specifically that we had evidence of uh smoking gun evidence of collusion, uh no.
	But of course a lot more has come out uh that's uh you know qu uh raises I think circumstantial questions, if nothing else.
	Uh but Mr. Clapper then went on to say that to his knowledge there was no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
	We did not conclude any evidence in our report.
	And when I say our report, that is the NSA, FBI, and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence had anything, any reflection of collusion between the members of Trump campaign and the Russians.
	There was no evidence of that in our report.
	Was Mr. Clapper wrong when he said that?
	I think he's right uh about characterizing the report, which you you all have read.
	We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say our that's NSA FBI and CIA with my office, the director of National Intelligence that had anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
	There was no evidence of that included in in our report.
	Have you seen anything, either intelligence briefings through intelligence briefings, anything to back up any of the accusations that you made?
	They have the documentation that they did the hacking.
	The hacking on the DNC.
	Right.
	And on some of us, you know, that have the collusion though.
	No, we have not.
	Do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign?
	Not at this time.
	Have you seen anything that suggests any collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign?
	Well, there's an awful lot of smoke there, let's put it that way.
	People that might have said they were involved, to what extent they were involved, to what extent the president might have known about these people or whatever.
	There's nothing there from that standpoint that we have seen directly linking uh our president to any of that.
	Did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors at the time you learned of 2016 efforts.
	I don't know whether or not such collusion, and that's your term, such collusion existed.
	I don't know.
	The big questions, of course, is is there any evidence of collusion you have seen yet?
	Is there?
	Diane Feinstein has said there's no evidence of collusion.
	So collusion between whom?
	Can you tell us that?
	I'm not prepared to say that there's proof you could take to a jury, but I can't say that there is enough that we ought to be investigating.
	At the time you separated from service in January of 2017, had you seen any evidence that uh Donald Trump or any member of his campaign colluded, conspired, or coordinated with the Russians or anyone else to infiltrate or impact our uh voter infrastructure.
	Um not beyond uh what has been out there open source and not beyond anything that I'm sure this committee has already seen and heard before directly from the intelligence community.
	Uh our source is not the Russian government.
	So in other words, let me be clear.
	Russia did not give you the pedesta documents or anything from the DNC.
	That's correct.
	All right, so there you have it again and again a year's investigation.
	No evidence.
	The one guy that knows Julian Assange.
	Oh, it's not Russia, it's not a state.
	And then, of course, you know, we've got pretty much everybody saying the same thing, even including James Clapper.
	No evidence of Trump Russia collusion, but they don't stop.
	They don't stop ever.
	They're never gonna stop.
	Their goal, what they want to do is absolutely to destroy this president at any cost, any way imaginable.
	You know, I talk about the forces against the president.
	We got the deep state, we got a corrupt media, we got Democrats, they don't want to do anything for this president, weak Republicans and never Trumpers.
	In other words, the same people that hate anybody that likes Trump.
	Hence what we've been dealing with all weekend.
	Silence everybody, the number one censorship group in the country, the number one group, the most anti-free speech movement in the country.
	They want a world without Fox, without talk radio, without Rush, without LeVend, without Laura, without Sean Hannity.
	That's the world they want to live in.
	Bought and paid for by millionaires and billionaires.
	Anyway, here to discuss all of this.
	Kirk Weebe, former senior analyst, NSA, Bill Benny, uh Benny is with us, rare in studio appearance, former technical director of the NSA World Geopolitical and Military Analysis and Reporting Group.
	Uh welcome both of you.
	Bill, it's nice to see you in person.
	How are you?
	Good to see you too.
	Um how many years NSA?
	Uh 32 as a civilian and four in the military.
	All right, so that's 36 years of intelligence.
	Um we started out the presidency of Donald Trump with like a leak a day.
	Yeah.
	And one time on this program, you told me that every email, every text message, every phone call that we make, every American is being metadata stored.
	Yes.
	Everyone.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that illegal?
	Isn't that a violation?
	Of course it is, yeah.
	But the you can't get them into court, which I'm trying to do.
	I've got uh I'm separate, I'm supporting three separate lawsuits uh alleging the c uh violation of the Constitution, first, fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments.
	Yeah.
	So in other words, we have to go against our our own government as weaponized intelligence.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	So all the time we talked about the weaponization of the IRS under Obama against Tea Party affiliated groups, that turned out we got an apology recently.
	Yeah.
	A little late.
	Yeah, but that that also came out of that data too.
	Because they showed the entire relationship of the Tea Party with anybody else that was trying to join that to get uh 501c3.
	So they IRS knew that right away, and they had direct access to that.
	With all that we hear it's like every time Donald Trump has gotten momentum, there's always something that throws the momentum off.
	Do you are you saying that they have everything they already want on Trump?
	They've already surveilled him to such an extent.
	Like, for example, I believe that it might may turn out to be the fusion GPS Russian propaganda lying dossier.
	Was that used as a predicate for a Pfizer warrant?
	Uh that very well could be.
	I don't know for sure, but certainly that is a possibility.
	But even beyond that, you're saying there was more surveillance.
	Oh, yeah, they had they had they take in everything that we're saying and doing.
	Everything.
	Everything.
	Do you can you prove that?
	Well, yeah, I I prove it.
	I've already got uh the proof in the uh in the documents that I've submitted is sworn affidavits to the appeals courts.
	Well, so basically we have no freedom, and this is the predicate of a police state, what you're describing.
	Yeah, I think uh Goethe captured it pretty well.
	He he he basically said that uh no one is more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they're free.
	That's us.
	Uh Kirk, do you agree with everything that Bill's saying?
	Absolutely.
	And uh I wanted to point out that they're not just storing metadata, Sean.
	It's content as well.
	Meaning what a a good bit of evidence for that is when the Congress says, oh, we're gonna forego quote about stuff uh when we uh under FISA.
	We're we're not gonna look at that anymore.
	Well, you can't look at about if you don't have content.
	Mm-hmm.
	So that's a direct admission.
	So what what are we to what are we then to believe in terms of now that we know it's a bought and paid for propaganda dossier that they denied for a year, just stay on the dossier for a second.
	What are we to believe that they Hillary Clinton knowingly paid for Russian lies to help influence the American people and win an election?
	And now are we able to prove that finally?
	Well, I I think we will be able to.
	I think we're coming close.
	I don't know that we have the access necessary to do that definitively, but all the arrows certainly point in that direction.
	So, Bill, I've talked to people that are in your crazy spy world community, and uh they're very interesting people to me.
	I th I look I like spy novels, I like Jason Bourne, I think all that stuff is very cool.
	And but the sophistication of intelligence gathering today, isn't that way beyond the comprehension?
	For example, any phone call can be tapped into way beyond the comprehension of most people.
	But here's my question.
	Are you aware, is there such a thing as a deep state?
	Define it if it is, and what are they actively trying to accomplish here?
	Well, I mean, my I would put the intelligence community, all the agencies as a part of that deep state as long as along with the part of the Congress, the intelligence committees, and I would also include the Pfizer court.
	And when you say deep state, define that.
	Well, it's the government behind the government that's basically pulling the strings telling the supposed government where to go and what to do.
	That's why I called the IC the the uh Praetorian Guard for the country.
	They they basically determine who the emperor is and what he does.
	And Donald Trump broke that cycle.
	Yes, he did.
	And that's why there's widespread anger.
	That's right.
	Uh but I've got to imagine, like you, there are plenty of good people in the intelligence community because they put their lives on the line to to spy on our enemies using the the powerful mechanism of intelligence gathering for our benefit, right?
	That's right.
	Yeah, but uh they're not the ones in charge of the agencies, and those are the people who are really a part of the deep state.
	Do you have names of people?
	Like, for example, we talk about Obama holdovers.
	We see the unmasking.
	Why would Susan Rice and um uh whoever what the UN ambassador uh power Samantha Power, why would they be unmasking Americans?
	Well, I mean to uh to if somebody's collaborating with WikiLeaks, they would certainly want to know who that is.
	And so if they unmask them, then they would know.
	So when I interview or talk to Julian Assange, they unmask me.
	Yeah.
	Just to know who you are and what you're doing.
	And uh also all your conversation with them if you're on the phone, or if you email them all of that data is captured and reported?
	But uh but if I'm talking to, you know, my brother-in-law, are they taking that conversation too?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And any evidence I was accumulating show that they were using translation devices to automatically do it to try to get an 80% correct translation of the conversation on the phone.
	Almost in real time, I hear they can do that.
	Very close, yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	All right, we'll take a quick break.
	We'll come back.
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	We will continue, and Congressman Jim Jordan, Matt Gates are gonna join us.
	They are saying the Attorney General Jeff Sessions needs to appoint a special counsel, or it's time for him to go.
	We'll explain straight ahead.
	Have you seen any evidence that this dirt, these emails were ever given to the Trump campaign?
	Not so far.
	Not so far.
	Have you ever seen have you seen any communications uh that suggested that the Trump campaign wanted them to release them through a different means?
	Because obviously they were ultimately released by WikiMeans.
	I have not.
	All right, as we continue, Sean Hannity's show, Kirk Weeby, former senior analyst for the NSA, Bill Binney, who's a former tech technical director for the NSA World Geopolitical Military Analysis and Reporting Group.
	Uh Kirk, how many years were you in the uh NSA and involved in intelligence gathering?
	Uh 32, including military service.
	All right, so you guys have combined, you know, no offense, you're both like a hundred years experience here.
	Um, I listened to you, and the average American listens to you.
	You know, somebody once said to me, everything that the Obama holdovers, the deep state ever wanted against Donald Trump, they already have.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, they sure do.
	I mean these people have access to everything, as Bill has been saying.
	Um they're in by virtue of that, and because knowledge is extreme power, they have people right where they want them.
	They can blackmail them, they can threaten them, they can use anything against them.
	And the average employee doesn't even know that.
	I mean, what's really going on is known by the higher-ups, the higher-up managers.
	They're pulling the strings.
	Well, who are the managers current?
	Are the managers from the Obama administration?
	Is this like passed on from generation to generation?
	I don't think it's passed on.
	I think they're part of the holdover from the Obama.
	That's not to say, though, that there weren't holdovers from Bush where the whole thing started.
	The whole mass surveillance began under Cheney and Bush.
	And let me ask Bill this question.
	Then how does Donald Trump defend against something as illegal as what you're describing?
	Start putting some in jail for the crimes they're committing.
	If he does that, then others will see that and start to stop.
	And he can do that.
	Yes, he can.
	Well, it has to be his Justice Department, and they got to move, which we're going to talk about in the next hour.
	Uh great to see you in studio.
	I appreciate all your work.
	Little scary.
	You guys, uh if you wrote a novel like this, I'm not sure I'd even believe it.
	Uh Kirk, thank you too, my friend.
	Hope to see you one day in the studio.
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	We've learned about uh Donald Trump Jr. eagerly accepting a meeting uh to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from somebody he was told was a Russian lawyer.
	We've learned with the Comey uh plea agreement uh with um George Pompadopoulos, former uh foreign a foreign advisor for the Trump campaign, we've learned uh that he was told by a professor with ties to the Kremlin uh in April 2016, long before I knew anything about the hacking or the public knew anything about the hacking, um, that the Russians were claiming that they had damaging information.
	Now you said in January 2017, this year, that you knew of no collusion.
	Did you know of those two events?
	No, I did not.
	And uh the the statement I made at the time was it was was true.
	We'd had no I had no direct evidence of of collusion.
	Now we had lots of concerns because we were aware of multiple meetings uh that were going on.
	Well uh at least my part was not aware directly of the content of the of these meetings.
	But we were certainly concerned, and the metaphor I've used before is uh I think our dashboard warning lights were clearly on about what was going on.
	But uh to say specifically that we had evidence of uh smoking gun evidence of collusion, uh no, but of course a lot more has come out uh that's uh you know qu uh raises I think circumstantial questions, if nothing else.
	Uh this is an effort to uh again try to undermine uh those quarters that could pose a serious threat to him.
	Also, I think it shows the insecurity that he still feels about the election and how Russian interference may have contributed to that election.
	So I think there's a combination of factors that uh are motivating the president at this time.
	Do you know of any compromising material that the Russians might have on him?
	Uh I I have shared everything I know with the uh intelligence committees.
	Um that's not a no or a yes, because we we're we're not privy to the information that you gave to the intelligence committee.
	So that's true.
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	James Clapper, others, no evidence of collusion.
	John Brennan won't answer if the Russians have compromising material on Trump.
	And then, of course, we have Donald Trump.
	I believe Putin believes that Russia didn't meddle in the election.
	Now we've got all sorts of breaking developments in all this.
	Joining us now is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	He has a piece out on Fox News.com that says Hillary Clinton's been getting away with unethical, illegal behavior for forty years.
	You know, my sources tell me that may very well be coming to an end as now we have Republicans demanding Jeff Sessions appoint a special counsel on all this, or that Jeff Sessions should should resign, and we'll talk to two of those congressmen later.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm I'm doing well, and by the way, that that uh newsletter from Gingish Productions, I I went back, I've been at this long enough uh that I remembered the cattle futures example where she took a thousand dollars and kept investing it in futures until she made a hundred thousand dollars, and uh two scholars went out and did a study.
	They concluded the odds were better than a trillion to one that that was impossible to do legally.
	And I think it I think it's clearly it was insider trading.
	She had guys who knew what was going to happen, they gave her, they told her what to do.
	She made the money.
	This is when Bill Clinton was first governor.
	And the thing that tells you though, is not only that she was a crook, not only that she got away with it and learned that you can get away with these things, but it also tells you that about how Liberal Democrats think about capitalism.
	They think it's a rigged game because for them it is.
	Uh they they expect to cheat, and so they don't understand this idea of hardworking small business people who go out, obey the law, work hard, you know, create a company, build earn a living, uh, because they assume the whole thing is rigged, which is, by the way, part of what I think comes out of Donna Brazil's absolutely astonishing new book, uh, in which she just levels the Clinton machine and the Clinton organization in ways that I I didn't think anybody would ever have the guess to do on the left.
	Let me ask you, when it comes though, you know, for a year she denied that she knew anything about fusion, GPS, Russia connections, the Russian dossier.
	But now we know differently.
	The Clinton campaign, and she was running according to Donna Brazil, the DNC, the entire operation, uh as it relates to hiring and every every other operation, she was funding it.
	So that's what, ten, twelve million dollars total that goes to paying for phony dossier that had salacious lies about dr Donald Trump that a former MI6 guy got from Russians and they tried to influence an election.
	Now that sounds like the very thing to me that they were accusing Donald Trump of doing.
	Well, plus it raises the question, which I think has to be answered under oath.
	To what extent was the FBI decision to investigate Trump based on a totally false politically paid for campaign document?
	I mean, does this whole thing all go back to a deliberately rigged poison fruit that the Clinton campaign was paying for?
	But but let me just make a point.
	I don't think it's it's possible to say too often, and I don't think most Americans will ever believe it.
	She just lies.
	You remember when it's always the next lie and the next lie and the next lie.
	She just lies.
	Do you remember when William Sapphire, who since passed away, said she was a congenital liar and the outrage of people.
	Right.
	I think you're right.
	I think they lie with regularity.
	So I start with this premise.
	They were totally greedy about money.
	They were willing to break the law.
	The reason I wrote that newsletter was to say to people, look, go all the way back to 1979.
	This isn't new.
	This isn't sudden suddenly.
	This is the pattern these two people have had for their entire career.
	And yet because we find it so hard to deal with people who are this corrupt.
	We keep coming back thinking it can't really be true.
	But it is true.
	It's true at every level.
	It's true about how she handled national security.
	It's true about Benghazi.
	It's true about her campaign.
	It's true about deleting 33,000 emails.
	It's true about the corruption of the Clinton Foundation.
	And I hope that there will be an independent counsel, because I I agree with Alan Guelza, the great historian at Gettysburg College, who has said publicly and has written about the fact that the Obama administration was the most corrupt administration in American history.
	More corrupt than the Grant administration, more corrupt than Harding, more corrupt than any administration in American history.
	And had Hillary Clinton won, it would all have been swept under the rug.
	But Jeff Sessions does not have to recuse himself on getting to the truth about the Clintons.
	And he has every opportunity as the attorney general to insist that the Justice Department look I don't I don't I'm not trying to get them into a criminal trial.
	I would just like to get all the facts out in the open.
	I like to get the American people to see just how deeply corrupt this system was and how totally dishonest it was in terms of lying.
	And I think in that sense, history will then take care of itself.
	Let me ask you about this case with Judge Roy Moore and now another accusation today with Gloria Allred.
	And I guess my my thoughts are, and then you see, look, I've always been a believer in the presumption of innocence.
	I've taken this position my entire career.
	These are serious allegations.
	It would, to me, it would definitely, regardless of whether there's criminal or civil liability here because of statute of limitations, it would disqualify anybody from being a senator or having any other position in the public.
	We now have McConnell saying Roy Moore should step aside, that he believes these women.
	The media is, you know, in five seconds.
	They just ran out there and it was trial by media immediately guilty.
	Um what are your general thoughts on all of this?
	Mitch McConnell's now exploring a writing campaign against Moore and polls show that the race is tightened.
	What are your thoughts on all of this?
	Well, I think that Tim Scott was the one person over the weekend who made sense.
	Tim Scott, a senator from South Carolina, said...
	You know, this is really up to the people of Alabama.
	Um what we know is that all the people who tried to be Roy Moore in the primary would like Roy Moore to get out, and they'd like to beat him in the general.
	And apparently they would rather have a liberal Democrat for six years, uh, and maybe for the next 30 years, uh, than have somebody that they believe is tainted, who by the way, they opposed long before the Washington Post story.
	Uh what we also know is that Roy Moore apparently is a very tough guy, and he ain't stopping it.
	Uh so now it's up to the people of Alabama.
	But this this idea which I heard suggested over the weekend that maybe they wouldn't seed him if he won.
	I mean, are people just losing their minds?
	Under our Constitution, the people of the state of Alabama have the right to decide who their senator is.
	There's no provision that says that the U.S. Senate can decide that they've chose the wrong person.
	Now, whether Moore can win or not, whether he can try to knock down these stories or not, I mean, that's that that's his problem.
	And he's the burden is on him to convince the rest of us that he is worthy of being a U.S. Senator, not to kin I shouldn't say the rest of us, to convince the people of Alabama.
	But let's be very clear.
	This is an Alabama Senate race in which he has to talk with the people of Alabama, they have to decide what their duty is.
	Uh and and I am frankly a little disappointed in people in Washington who take the totally phony news of the Washington Post immediately rush to judgment and then compound by by having read their own statements and decided they were right, uh, going a step further.
	This guy's never had a jury trial, he's never been indicted.
	He there there's never been a chance to to to measure up against his his ac his accusers.
	And I'm not defending him.
	I'm just saying it's amazing to me to watch the.
	Well, you you and I are in the same position.
	I listen, I don't know.
	I remember I remember still when when you were a mere child, I remember Clarence Thomas walking into that Senate hearing room and talking about a modern day lynching.
	And I remember how whipped up and how excited the liberals were and how they had this wonderful witness, and I watched all of them melt as Clarence Thomas just took them to pieces.
	And so I would just say that that that we ought to be a little cautious.
	I'm not picking sides here.
	I'm just saying I haven't interviewed anybody.
	I haven't looked at the evidence.
	I haven't seen anything which suggests uh you know that the that we know that we know right now.
	And that's why in the next few weeks, the burden is on I think the burden clearly is on Roy Moore.
	Uh, and he is gonna have to go out and and prove his case.
	Uh and but I do think that that the most destructive thing they could do is set up a write-in.
	Um and again, it it's all outsiders.
	I mean, I don't see any Alabama movement for a write-in.
	Uh and and so I'm just I'm just watching as an observer, uh, trying to understand exactly what the dynamics of this are.
	You know, I learned a valuable lesson.
	I've explained this now many times on the air to my audience, and uh I just want to bring you up to speed.
	You know, when I was in Atlanta, and I remember the Clarence Thomas thing as vividly as you do, and I also remember Herman Kane, who's a mutual friend of ours, as soon as he got out of the race, that no more charges, nothing, it all ends.
	Uh but I knew but I didn't know the day the Atlanta Journal Constitution came out with Richard Jewell, the guy we thought was a hero, fits the profile of a lone bomber because he he lives with his mother.
	I didn't know he was listening to my radio show that day, and I said, Wait a minute, that does not make him the bomber.
	And I was the only one.
	And he gave me one of the first interviews he ever did because he had been listening and said I was the only one that was fair.
	You know, but the media's been wrong about Duke LaCrosse.
	They rushed the judgment.
	They were wrong about Trayvon and Zimmerman and the jury verdict there.
	They were wrong about hands up don't shoot in in Ferguson.
	They were wrong about Freddie Gray and all those cops who are going to be found guilty in Baltimore.
	Frankly, they were wrong about Trump even having a chance of winning or Obama, and then you bring up Clarence Thomas.
	And and I I am right now being excoriated because I believe in the presumption of innocence, and I practice that and since I was in Atlanta for the reasons I've just mentioned.
	Well, and then let me let me just suggest to you.
	And by the way, he may be all guilty.
	You're right.
	He's he's gotta now show that this is not.
	And if if he is guilty, look, if he is guilty and he can't prove his case and he loses the election, he loses the election.
	Well, let it be in a fair conversation with the people of Alabama and a fair chance to defend himself, not some lynch mob.
	All right, gotta take a quick break.
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	As we continue, a former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	Let me just suggest to you an interesting test.
	Go pull up all the Republicans who said Trump ought to drop off the ticket uh when the when the tapes came out from from uh the uh you know it'd be very interesting if we take the Access Hollywood tapes.
	Look at that weekend, how many people said, well, maybe you ought to drop off the ticket and measure them against exactly the same people who are now for Roy Moore dropping off the ticket.
	And now you know what the lynch mob looks like.
	Um there are people out there whose desire to to automatically assume every Republican should be defeated is amazing.
	Uh And it doesn't help grow the Republican Party.
	And I'm again I'm I'm not particularly for you know I'm not advocating Moore's election.
	Uh but I do think that there ought to be some presumption of him having a chance to make his case to the only people who matter in this race, and that's the people of Alabama, not the New York Times editorial board, not the Washington Post editorial board, not incumbent senators from around the country, But the people of Alabama, I want to watch and see exactly how this works out.
	This is a West Point graduate, very tough guy, has had a long career.
	And it's pretty clear from what we've seen so far, he ain't backing down.
	So, you know, it's just it's a it's a fascinating moment in American history.
	And I think it's compounded because notice how many left-wing Hollywood types are not being you know, they're not being exposed for 40 years ago.
	They're not being exposed for a kiss.
	I mean, the number of people in Hollywood and and and in the news media who are now being turned out because of actual behavior in the recent past uh is pretty stunning, and sets sort of the backdrop for all this.
	I'm never gonna apologize, Mr. Speaker.
	And there are people today trying to get me fired.
	I will never apologize for the presumption of innocence.
	I think it is fundamental to who we are as a society.
	You know, and when we get inform I don't advocate like you do.
	I I want the truth, but I'm not gonna rush the judgment on anybody.
	You know, when I made my decision on Clinton, I was one of the few people that actually interviewed the women involved before I make my decision.
	Um thank you, sir, for being with us.
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	We've learned about uh Donald Trump Jr. eagerly accepting a meeting uh to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from somebody he was told was a Russian lawyer.
	We've learned with the Comey uh plea agreement uh with um George Papadopoulos, former uh foreign a foreign advisor for the Trump campaign.
	We've learned uh that he was told by a professor with ties to the Kremlin uh in April 2016, long before I knew anything about the hacking or the public knew anything about the hacking, um, that the Russians were claiming that they had damaging information.
	Now you said in January 2017, this year, that you knew of no collusion.
	Did you know of those two events?
	No, I did not.
	And uh the the statement I made at the time was it was was true.
	We had no I had no direct evidence of of collusion.
	Now we had lots of concerns because we were aware of multiple meetings uh that were going on.
	Well uh at least my part was not aware directly of the content of the of these meetings.
	But we were certainly concerned, and the metaphor I've used before is uh I think our dashboard warning lights were clearly on about what was going on.
	But uh to say specifically that we had evidence of uh smoking gun evidence of collusion, uh no.
	But of course, a lot more has come out uh that's uh you know qu uh raises, I think circumstantial questions, if nothing else.
	Uh but Mr. Clapper then went on to say that to his knowledge there was no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
	We did not conclude any evidence in our report.
	And when I say our report, that is the NSA, FBI, and CIA, with my office.
	The director of national intelligence had anything, any reflection of collusion between the members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
	There was no evidence of that in our report.
	Was Mr. Clapper wrong when he said that?
	I think he's right uh about characterizing the report, which you you all have read.
	We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say our that's NSA FBI and CIA with my office, the director of National Intelligence that had anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
	There was no evidence of that included in in our report.
	Have you seen anything, either intelligence briefings, through intelligence briefings, anything to back up any of the accusations that you have made?
	They have the documentation that they did the hacking.
	The hacking on the DNC.
	Right.
	And on some of us, you know, that have been a good thing.
	But the collusion, though.
	No, we have not.
	Do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign?
	Not at this time.
	Have you seen anything that suggests any collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign?
	Well, there's an awful lot of smoke there, let's put it that way.
	People that might have said they were involved, to what extent they were involved, to what extent the president might have known about these people or whatever.
	There's nothing there from that standpoint that we have seen directly linking uh our president to any of that.
	Did evidence exist of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors at the time you learned of 2016 efforts.
	I don't know whether or not such collusion, and that's your term, such collusion existed.
	I don't know.
	The big questions, of course, is is there any evidence of collusion you have seen yet?
	Is there?
	Diane Feinstein has said there's no evidence of collusion.
	So collusion between whom?
	Can you tell us that?
	I'm not prepared to say that there's proof you could take to a jury, but I can't say that there is enough that we ought to be investigating.
	At the time you separated from service in January of 2017, had you seen any evidence that uh Donald Trump or any member of his campaign colluded, conspired, or coordinated with the Russians or anyone else uh to infiltrate or impact our uh voter infrastructure.
	Um not beyond uh what has been out there open source, and not beyond anything that I'm sure this committee has already seen and heard before directly from the intelligence community.
	Uh our source is not the Russian government.
	So, in other words, let me be clear.
	Russia did not give you the pedesta documents or anything from the DNC.
	That's correct.
	All right, so there you have it again and again, a year's investigation.
	No evidence.
	The one guy that knows Julian Assange.
	Oh, it's not Russia, it's not a state.
	And then, of course, you know, we've got pretty much everybody saying the same thing, even including James Clapper.
	No evidence of Trump Russia collusion, but they don't stop.
	They don't stop ever.
	They're never gonna stop.
	Their goal, what they want to do is absolutely to destroy this president at any cost, any way imaginable.
	You know, I talk about the forces against the president.
	We got the deep state, we got a corrupt media, we got Democrats, they don't want to do anything for this president, weak Republicans and never Trumpers.
	In other words, the same people that hate anybody that likes Trump.
	Hence what we've been dealing with all weekend.
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	Anyway, here to discuss all of this, Kirk Weebee, former senior analyst, NSA Bill Benny, uh Benny is with us, rare in studio appearance, former technical director of the NSA World Geopolitical and Military Analysis and Reporting Group.
	Welcome both of you.
	Bill, it's nice to see you in person.
	How are you?
	Good to see you too.
	Um how many years NSA?
	Uh thirty-two as a civilian and four in the military.
	All right, so that's thirty-six years of intelligence.
	Um we started out the presidency of Donald Trump with like a leak a day.
	Yeah.
	And one time on this program, you told me that every email, every text message, every phone call that we make, every American is being metadata stored.
	Yes.
	Everyone.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that illegal?
	Isn't that a violent?
	Of course it is, yeah.
	But the you can't get them into court, which I'm trying to do.
	I've got uh I'm separate, I'm supporting three separate lawsuits uh alleging the call uh uh violation of the Constitution, first, fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments.
	Yeah.
	So in other words, we have to go against our our own government as weaponized intelligence.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	So all the time we talked about the weaponization of the IRS under Obama against Tea Party affiliated groups, that turned out we got an apology recently.
	Yeah.
	A little late.
	Yeah, but that that also came out of that data too, because they showed the entire relationship of the Tea Party with anybody else that was trying to join that to get uh 501c3.
	So they IRS knew that right away, and they had direct access to that.
	With all that we hear it's like every time Donald Trump has gotten momentum, there's always something that throws the momentum off.
	Do you are you saying that they have everything they already want on Trump?
	They've already surveilled him to such an extent.
	Like, for example, I believe that it might turn out to be the fusion GPS Russian propaganda lying dossier.
	Was that used as a predicate for a Pfizer warrant?
	Uh that very well could be.
	I don't know for sure, but certainly that is a possibility.
	But even beyond that, you're saying there was more surveillance.
	Oh, yeah, they had they they take in everything that we're saying and doing.
	Everything.
	Everything.
	Do you can you prove that?
	Well, yeah, I prove it.
	I've already got uh the proof in the uh in the documents that I've submitted as sworn affidavits to the appeals courts.
	Well, so basically we have no freedom, and this is the predicate of a police state, what you're describing.
	Yeah, I think uh Goethe captured it pretty well.
	He he he basically said that uh no one is more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they're free.
	That's us.
	Uh Kirk, do you agree with everything that Bill's saying?
	Absolutely.
	And uh I wanted to point out that they're not just storing metadata, Sean, it's content as well.
	Meaning what a a good bit of evidence for that is when the Congress says, oh, we're gonna forego uh quote about unquote stuff uh when we uh under FISA.
	We're not gonna look at that anymore.
	Well, you can't look at about if you don't have content.
	Mm-hmm.
	So that's a direct admission.
	So what what are we to what are we then to believe in terms of now that we know it's a bought and paid for propaganda dossier that they denied for a year, just stay on the dossier for a second.
	What are we to believe that they Hillary Clinton knowingly paid for Russian lies to help influence the American people and win an election?
	And now are we able to prove that?
	Finally?
	Well, I I think we will be able to.
	I think we're coming close.
	I don't know that we have the access necessary to do that definitively, but all the arrows certainly point in that direction.
	So, Bill, I've talked to people that are in your crazy spy world community, and uh they're very interesting people to me.
	I th I look I like spy novels, I like Jason Bourne, I think all that stuff is very cool.
	And but the sophistication of intelligence gathering today, isn't that way beyond the comprehension?
	For example, any phone call can be tapped into, way beyond the comprehension of most people.
	But here's my question.
	Are you aware?
	Is there such a thing as a deep state?
	Define it if it is, and what are they actively trying to accomplish here?
	Well, I mean, my I would put the intelligence community, all the agencies as a part of that deep state as long as along with the part of the Congress, the intelligence committees.
	And I would also include the Pfizer court.
	And when you say deep state, define that.
	Well, it's the government behind the government that's basically pulling the strings telling the supposed government where to go and what to do.
	That's why I called the IC the uh praetorian guard for the country.
	They they basically determine who the emperor is and what he does.
	And Donald Trump broke that cycle.
	Yes, he did.
	And that's why there's widespread anger.
	That's right.
	Uh but I've got to imagine, like you, there are plenty of good people in the intelligence community because they put their lives on the line to to spy on our enemies using the the powerful mechanism of intelligence gathering for our benefit, right?
	That's right.
	Yeah, but uh, they're not the ones in charge of the agencies, and those are the people who are really a part of the deep state.
	Do you have names of people?
	Like, for example, we talk about Obama holdovers.
	We see the unmasking.
	Why would Susan Rice and um uh whoever it was the UN ambassador uh power Samantha Power, why would they be unmasking Americans?
	Well, I mean, uh to if somebody's collaborating with WikiLeaks, they would certainly want to know who that is.
	And so if they unmask them, then they would know.
	And so when I interview or talk to Julian Assange, they unmask me.
	Yeah.
	Just to know who you are and what you're doing.
	And uh also all your conversation with them if you're on the phone, or do you email them?
	All uh all of that data is captured and reported.
	But uh but if I'm talking to, you know, my brother-in-law, are they taking that conversation too?
	Yes.
	Yeah, and the evidence I was accumulating show that they were using translation devices to automatically do it to try to get an 80% correct translation of the conversation on the phone.
	Almost in real time, I hear they can do that.
	Very close, yeah.
	Unbelievable.
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	that this dirt, these emails, were ever given to the Trump campaign.
	Not so far.
	Not so far.
	Have you ever seen have you seen any communications uh that suggested that the Trump campaign wanted them to release them through a different means?
	Because obviously they were ultimately released by WikiNews.
	I have not.
	All right, as we continue, Sean Hannity show, Kirk Weeby, former senior analyst for the NSA, Bill Binney, who's a former tech technical director for the NSA World Geopolitical Military Analysis and Reporting Group.
	Uh Kirk, how many years were you in the uh NSA and involved in intelligence gathering?
	Uh 32, including military service.
	All right, so you guys have combined, you know, but no offense, you both are like a hundred years' experience here.
	Um, I listened to you, and the average American listens to you.
	You know, somebody once said to me, everything that the Obama holdovers, the deep state ever wanted against Donald Trump, they already have.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, they sure do.
	I mean these people have access to everything, as Bill has been saying.
	Um they're in by virtue of that, and because knowledge is extreme power, they have people right where they want them.
	They can blackmail them, they can threaten them, they can use anything against them.
	And the average employee doesn't even know that.
	I mean, what's really going on is known by the higher ups, the higher-up managers.
	They're pulling the strings.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, who are the managers current?
	Are the managers from the Obama administration?
	Is this like passed on from generation to generation?
	I don't think it's passed on.
	I think they're part of the holdover from the Obama.
	That's not to say, though, that there weren't holdovers from Bush where the whole thing started.
	The whole mass surveillance began under Cheney and Bush.
	And let me ask Bill this question.
	Then how does Donald Trump defend against something as illegal as what you're describing?
	Well, I I think he really has to get the Department of Justice moving against these people and start putting some in jail for the crimes they're committing.
	If he does that, then others will see that and start to stop.
	And he can do that.
	Yes, he can.
	Well, it has to be his Justice Department, and they got a move, which we're going to talk about in the next hour.
	Uh great to see you in studio.
	I appreciate all your work.
	Little scary.
	You guys, uh, if you wrote a novel like this, I'm not sure I'd even believe it.
	Uh Kirk, thank you too, my friend.
	Hope to see you one day in the studio.
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