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Oct. 29, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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Best of the Week: Charlie Daniels! - 10.28

This week Sean sat down with the legendary Charlie Daniels and Sarah Huckabee Sanders to discuss the news of the day. Does Sanders have the hardest job in America? What was it like when Charlie Daniels first picked up a guitar? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Huckabee Sanders is next.
I think if you look at some of the progress that's taken place in the first nine months, despite the fact that the Congress has done very little up until this point, the president has gotten rid of nearly a thousand regulations that have paved the way for massive job creation and job growth in this country.
We're looking at a booming economy.
I think those are things that people actually care about.
We're looking at the defeat of ISIS, something that this president has led on and worked with our coalition forces to help do.
He's created better relationships with countries around the globe.
He's bolstered the relationship with NATO and had other countries encouraged in the growth of the amount of money that other countries are participating in that.
The historic moment that we saw with the president on his first foreign trip when he was in Saudi Arabia and he spoke in front of nearly 60 Muslim-majority countries.
These are historic moments that he's done without Congress.
Imagine how incredible and how many good things we would be doing if people like Senator Bob Corker got on board and started doing their job instead of doing so much grandstanding on TV.
Oh, I loved what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said from the podium today.
And we just so happen to have her and she's the White House press secretary.
You know, you have the most miserable job in the entire universe.
I don't know how you deal with those snakes every day.
And by the way, these are my words.
They're not Sarah Sanders' words.
They're Sean Hannity's words.
I don't think I could control my temper.
I honestly don't think I could do it.
Some days it's hard, but it helps that after doing that, I get to come on your radio show and talk to friendly people like you, Sean.
Well, look, I do appreciate the great work you do, and I think you do it masterfully.
And I think it's a very difficult job.
One of the things I just despise about the media is, number one, they're agenda-driven.
In my opinion, they are an extension of the Democratic Party's, you know, ops operation.
And they're just basically all sheep, and they all ask the same questions every day.
And I was watching you just a few minutes ago, and I thought you handled the whole issue of Senator Snowflake retiring out there in Arizona.
And, you know, I love what you said.
They haven't gotten their job done.
Go ahead.
And I think the people of their home states are frustrated by their inability to be effective and to push legislation through, despite the fact that the Senate has not been as successful.
This president still managed to get a lot of things done.
And I think that he's going to continue working with members of the Senate, certainly Republican members of the Senate, to really make historic changes like tax cuts for the middle class.
And I think we're going to see that by the end of this year.
I think we're going to see it.
And it's not because they, you know, I don't understand what part of the president's agenda that they're against.
All right, maybe they don't like the president's style, but I mean, to be perfectly blunt, we don't even know who half these senators are because they're too afraid to take a stand on anything.
And I don't like the fact that people run for office and they're supposed to be public servants and they're not serving the American people and fighting for the American people.
And I think, you know, people like Senator Sass and Senator Flake and Senator Corker and some of these other guys, if they'd spend more time fighting for the people they represent, we'd be a lot better off.
And President Trump wouldn't be so frustrated with them.
I'm frustrated with them.
Absolutely.
And I think America's frustrated with them.
I think that's one of the reasons you see a lot of these individual members that come out and attack this president, their numbers drop because they do want to see somebody get things done.
That's what this president has been focused on: actual results, not just rhetoric.
And I think that you're seeing a lot of that frustration come through, not just from the president, but certainly from the American people.
The fact is this: Senator Corker was probably going to be primarily and lose.
And Jeff Flake had no shot against Dr. Kelly Ward, who I've known and has been a guest on this program for five years now.
And so I'm watching him today and he's trying to be a martyr and he's trying to act like, oh, woe is me.
And I'm sitting there thinking the only reason you're really getting out is because you're not going to win.
So you might as well go out and blame somebody else other than yourself and the fact that you're not out there fighting to keep your promises.
I mean, that's my take on it.
Yeah, and I think that's one of the problems with Washington: you have people that are so much more concerned with reelection and a lot less concerned about focusing on real policy changes.
This is a president who is not concerned about doing things politically correct, but he's concerned about actually accomplishing real things that impact change.
And I think that that's really shaken some of these members.
And one of the reasons you're seeing some of them get a massive dip in their numbers and drop out and not run for reelection.
Let me play something that you said the other day.
And it's funny because it was echoed by former president Jimmy Carter, of all people.
And that there's never been a president that has experienced the level of hostility from the press day to day like this president.
You said this from the podium.
So recently in The Atlantic magazine, Glenn Thrush said he thought the administration's apparent tension with the press was overstated.
Would you agree?
No.
I know Glenn well, but I think that there's always going to be tension between whatever administration is in place at that time with the White House press corps.
But I do think that there is a heightened tension, certainly between this administration and the press.
I think you can see that in the coverage.
I mean, I've been around press and worked in politics my entire life, and I've never experienced the level of kind of hostility that I think we see day to day.
Why do you think that is?
I have my own.
I think the reason is, I'll give you my answer and then I want yours.
I think the reason is that this president doesn't take any crap.
This president fights.
This president digs his heels in.
And I love the fact that he's fighting for the country and taking a stand.
And I think they resent it and they're not used to it.
Absolutely.
I think one of the other reasons is they never expected him to win.
And I think that it absolutely embarrassed them when they were crying on national TV on election night when this president showed them up and proved them wrong and has continued to do that every single day since taking office.
Yeah.
No, I think you're right as well.
Let me ask you this.
What is the relationship like with Jim Acosta?
I mean, I don't think there's anyone more hostile.
Jim Acosta thinks he's a talk show host instead of a, quote, objective journalist.
And they're sitting there and being obnoxious to you every day.
I mean, how do you handle that?
And what is it like behind the scenes with these people?
You know, I try to take it one day at a time.
Look, I hate to overgeneralize the entire White House press quarter.
No, you can.
There are some good reporters and good journalists that still exist in that group.
And I think it's sad when you have a few people that so regularly are more focused with getting good TV clips than they are with actually getting good information, substantive information.
And they focus so much more on the palace intrigue and the process stories and so little on substance and so little on policy.
I do think that that's a big distraction.
But there are a handful of good folks out there.
And so I hate to see some of the louder folks take all of the attention away from some of the better reporters.
Yeah.
You know, one of the things that I think is missing from the Republican Party is an identity.
And I know that certainly the president has a real agenda.
How did it go in the meeting today when he went up to Capitol Hill?
You know, I thought the meeting was really productive.
I think that it shows that the support for this president with the Republican senators is pretty wide and pretty deep.
If you've got a few people, again, I don't think just because they're the loudest folks in the room, it makes them speak for the entire group or certainly for the majority.
As we often say in the South, just because they eat their soup louder than everybody else doesn't mean it tastes any better.
And so I think that you can apply that certainly to the Republican members of the Senate.
There's a great deal of, I think, support and respect from those members, and they really want to see something big happen.
Before I ask you more professional questions, on a personal level, I'm just curious because I've always felt your dad is one of the best debaters all the times he's run for president on that stage, and he's got a great wit.
He's very sharp.
He's smart, funny, very personable.
What part of growing up with your dad and him being governor do you think helped prepare you for this?
You know, I would not disagree with your assessment of my dad at all.
Obviously, I think he is one of the best and the brightest that it has ever been, but I'm also a very biased daughter, and I'm perfectly okay with that.
But I think, you know, having a front row seat to the political process certainly, I think, helped prepare me.
But also having a dad that really allowed me to be part of it, not just to watch it, but to actually engage in it.
He included me from a really early age in a lot of his campaigns.
And, you know, I got to sit in the meetings while he was having different discussions throughout his time as governor.
I think it really helped give me a different perspective and certainly a great insight into the process.
Let me ask you about the Uranium One issue.
I have been all over this.
I have known about this FBI informant that has the emails and the documents and the tapes and all the evidence that we now know the FBI knew about in 2009.
This is an FBI informant.
And now what we're beginning to discover is, you know, it looks like a pay-to-play bribery, compromising of American national security with the hostile regime of Vladimir Putin in Russia.
And we've spent the better part of a year with no evidence talking about Trump-Russia collusion.
This to me is one of the biggest scandals of national security because we, at the end of this, with money transferring hands all over the place, gave up 20% of America's uranium to this bad actor that everybody in the liberal media has been talking about.
And I would argue, but for me, Sarah Carter, John Solomon, and now Victoria Tunsing, I don't think anybody else has picked up on it.
And I think where we're headed with this, now that we have two congressional investigations, one in the Senate, two in the House, and it looks like that the informant is going to have his NDA lifted, that all of this evidence is going to become public, and none of it is going to be good for the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or Eric Holder.
Absolutely.
I think you're spot on.
I mean, just last week, there was a report from The Hill that alleges officials in the previous administration actually had knowledge of Russians who were engaged in bribery, a massive kickback scheme that allowed their government to get a huge foothold in the U.S. uranium supply.
That is concerning in itself, but it went on further and said these officials had information indicating that Russians routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to specifically benefit Bill and Hillary Clinton's foundation while she was Secretary of State.
I mean, it just one fact after another comes out that shows that this was just a horrible situation.
All this taking place.
And one of the things that I find even more impactful is that this report doesn't just cite anonymous sources.
It actually has a member of Congress on the record validating and giving credibility to this story.
You've had a ton of media outlets, just about every single one, minus a few of the good ones that like to run stories alleging the Russia collusion.
They're far thinner, including allegations made against the Attorney General by senators without having any evidence.
And major networks and mainstream media have completely ignored this story.
Well, they're not going to be able to.
It's mind-boggling to me.
They're not going to be able to ignore it much longer.
And, you know, the words Sarah Carter, John Solomon, Sean Hannity were right are going to have to come flowing out of their mouths as usual.
But I'm sure I'll be dying until my last breath before I hear those words.
What do you make of the fact the FBI director at the time that knew about this information was Robert Mueller?
And Robert Mueller is now the special counsel, and he's investigating, quote, Russia collusion.
Does that compromise his ability to do it?
Or Rod Rosenstein?
He was, you know, the Deputy Attorney General at the time, as he is now.
Look, again, I think that the details of this story and this report are certainly extremely troubling and something that we should be looking into.
I don't want to get any further ahead of the investigation.
I'll leave some of those comments for you to do.
But I definitely think that this story shows just the absolute hypocrisy that exists in the media, particularly given their obsession and the Russia fever that they've had over the last year.
They finally have a real Russia story, and I hope that some of the other outlets will start covering it.
That's okay.
I'll do their job for them as usual.
Anyway, you should be very proud of the job you do.
I think it's extraordinarily difficult.
And I think you've got the patience of Job and Sarah Sanders.
You dropped Huckabee.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I want to make sure I get it right.
Well, my husband does appreciate that I've claimed him.
I've always tried to go by Sarah Sanders, but, you know, I'm certainly very proud of my family and happy if they'll let me continue to be associated with them as well.
Oh, I think you're in the good graces of your father and mother.
I know them all.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Thank you.
And congratulations on the job you're doing.
And it's a thankless job.
We appreciate you being with us.
Daniel's a legend here.
Well, I was going to introduce my buddy, my friend, my pal, the great patriot, the great football fan, one of the greatest country artists.
You only have a half an hour.
Only half an hour.
Charlie Daniels is here, and you already interrupted the interview, and you're wasting time.
But I think a real proper welcome to Mr. Daniels would be if you sang him his greatest song, Devil One Down.
It's not complete unless you're singing, right?
Well, you mean a version that I've already sung.
Well, a version that you can sing with him.
Go ahead.
All right, ready?
All right, the devil went down to Georgia, and he was looking for a soul to steal.
He was in a buying because he was way behind, so he was willing to make a deal.
When he came across this young man song on the fiddle and playing it hot, well, the devil, he jumped up on a hickory spot and he said, Boy, let me tell you what.
Yes, you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player, too.
And if you care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
Make a bet with you.
Now, you play pretty good fiddle boy, but give the devil his due.
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul because I think I'm better than you.
Boy said, my name's Johnny, and it may be a sin, but I'll take your bet, and you're going to regret because I'm the best it's ever been.
Johnny, you're rising up your bow and play your fiddle hard.
Cause hell's broke loose in Georgia and the devil deals at heart.
And if you win, you get this.
I can't ruin all of it.
I hit the whole song.
I'm butchering it today.
Gets your soul.
All right, so Charlie Daniels is with us.
You know, you came out with this.
Never look at the empty seats.
Right.
And I have spent so much time with you.
Uh-huh.
And we've done so many events together.
And I've watched you perform so many times.
And the thing is, you, I don't even know how old you're.
You are doing 100 some odd dates a year.
I'll be 81 in four days.
You look amazing.
Thank you.
And the energy you bring to the people that come to your shows is phenomenal.
I feel the same way about my profession you feel about yours.
We both love it.
Love it.
And you put your best into it every day.
I do every night.
And it's just, it's a joy.
It's a joy to do.
You know, I've actually been to events, and maybe the crowd size wasn't what we thought it was.
That's happened to anybody, I guess, in performing, right?
Yes, dude.
You know, sometimes you don't have enough notice.
Sometimes the word didn't get out.
They didn't promote it right or whatever.
And that used to bother me.
I'm like, why didn't you fill the seats?
And then I learned it doesn't matter.
If there's 10 people there, you give your all for 10 people.
You're all for whoever's there.
And you're not concerned with the empty seats.
You're concerned with the ones that have people in them.
If you please them, then that's the way you build a following.
They'll come back and bring somebody else with them and kind of snowballs.
Yeah, but you don't hardly have empty seats.
I saw one.
I do.
I have occasionally.
We have some empty seats, yeah.
Especially when it first started.
This is about really, it's kind of an accentuate to positive type thing.
If you can't get what you want, take what you can get and make what you want out of it.
You have a lot of things that guide you in life.
One is your faith, your love of music, your love of football, and you have a love of politics.
I watch you.
You write your blog and you go out and you're tweeting up a storm.
And you're passionate about this country.
You're passionate about everything you do.
What are you most passionate about?
Your music?
My priorities are God, family, and country music and country, yeah.
God, family, country, and work.
That's me, yeah.
I'm curious because I know what a great patriot you are, and I know how much you love our troops.
How many times do you go see the men and women when they were out fighting?
We've been to Iraq, three times.
We've been to Afghanistan and we go, of course, you go to RAC, you go to Kuwait because that's a jumping-off place.
Sure.
We've been to Kosovo, Sarajevo, been to Guantanamo, just all over it.
But wherever we can get to them, you know, we can never do enough for our troops.
Anybody put their life between us and our enemies?
How do you reconcile the great patriot, lover of our military, because they give you the freedom to play, me the freedom to rant on the radio and on television, and they put their lives on the line for us.
How do you reconcile that with your passion for football?
I know you like college football probably better anyway, but what's going on in the NFL?
You know, I'm still kind of wondering if I'm going to redo my season tickets next year.
I found myself in this.
Of the Titans tickets.
Right.
This just happened.
I'm not as, it used to be football was on.
I had TV on.
Right.
It's kind of lost a little bit of its glow to me.
And you know what gets me about it is you want to protest something, you feel something's wrong, please do.
It's a free country.
You can do that.
But the guy holding that or the gal holding that flag out there in that color guard may well be a veteran or maybe not even a veteran, maybe still an active duty person who has put their life on the line in Afghanistan, Iraq, or someplace we don't even know about.
And you can't take 30 seconds to honor them, the flag that they served under, and the song that signifies the whole thing in our country.
You know, that's my point.
And listen, I made my living, you know, giving my opinions and strong opinions.
A lot of people don't like us, Charlie, trust me.
And I respect people that have different views.
I really do.
I'm cool with them.
Even people that don't like me and want to write horrible things and lies about me, which happens pretty much every day.
But how many, we can't unite on this issue?
Yes.
How many fought?
How many bled?
How many died?
How many sacrificed for you to have the right to get paid millions to play the sport you love?
Absolutely.
And be loved by the crowds.
You took the words out of my mouth.
I'm not watching NFL football.
I'm watching college football.
It's pretty good, too.
Oh, my God.
You know, isn't it fun to ascertain only the minuscule differences in terms of talent level?
And then you think there's only a few of those college kids that are ever getting the pros.
And I'm like, I think they're all good.
Yeah.
You know what's amazing is you get it.
There's a whole mindset to college football that you don't have when you watch pro.
It's like these kids out here doing it.
They're giving it their best to make it to the pros.
And to watch him, you know, Alabama should have to play in the pro league after what they did about Tennessee Titan, Tennessee Balls the other day.
But it's great.
College football is a great thing.
Every Saturday I got TV on.
I don't know how Nick Sabin does it every year.
Every year, he puts a championship team on the field.
I wish I did.
I'd teach it somebody else.
So you're a volunteer fan?
I'm a volunteer fan.
Yeah, well, listen, I admire that.
What is it?
How many years now is it total music for you?
And were you musical when you were born, when you were young?
I cut the apron strings in June of 1958 and I left home.
That's all I've done since it's something to do with music.
How old were you then?
I was, well, 1958 would have been coming to me 22 years old.
I was 21.
That was it?
You went out on your own, never looked back.
Went bound on, never looked back, and I've done it on all different levels, of course, but it's all been music related.
Except for five weeks, I worked in a junkyard in Denver, Colorado.
How was that?
I couldn't get, well, it brought me very much down to earth.
It made me realize, appreciate my.
You know, I came from a labor-type background, blue-collar people.
Same here.
Tobacco and timber, you know, that sort of thing.
So I was no stranger sweating.
I mean, I've done it, you know, and I got to have empathy for everybody.
I ride down the street and see the truck drivers unloading the trucks.
I got empathy for that person.
It's hard.
I did all the construction work and restaurant work.
But I'll tell you this: it was looking back, I think it saved my life in a lot of ways because it gave me the empathy, the perspective, real-life experience.
And, you know, look, I mean, if I get tired and I'm grinding it out on the road like you are sometimes, and I'm flying from, I was in five cities in three days recently, you know, this past weekend.
I have no reason to complain, Charlie.
You're grounded.
You're grounded.
And a faith in God does that too.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
When you perform, is that the time that you feel the best in your life?
It's one of the few times I ever feel like in my life that I know exactly what I'm doing.
I have devoted my life.
I know when you sit down in front of a microphone, you take on a whole persona.
I mean, you're Sean Hannity on the air, and it's very obvious that you're at home back there.
I'm at home when I walk on stage.
Just the way you co-relate the way you feel when you sit down behind that microphone.
And that's the way I feel when I walk on stage.
You know, it's funny because my kids, Charlie, I have a studio near my house, and sometimes they'd come in when I'm doing the radio show from home.
I'm in New York today.
And they'd come in and they're like, Daddy, you just, your veins are popping out of your neck and you're screaming.
And I'm like, well, let me do the radio show this way.
Hi, welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
And our number is 1-800-941.
I said, nobody's going to listen to that.
But here's the interesting thing to me, and I want to know if you can relate to this.
The first time I got behind a microphone, I did that.
I just, I started talking like this.
And I have no idea why.
I have no idea where that came from.
Because you're doing exactly what you want to do.
That's when you put your whole heart and soul into it.
When you're doing exactly, I would not change places, and I know you wouldn't either.
I'm looking straight in the eyes.
I want to be Garth Brooks or Kenny Chesney in my next life.
There's already one of them.
You can't be that.
But you're doing exactly what you want to do, and you put your heart and soul into it.
And I'm the same way.
When I learned three chords and I could play a whole song, I was ruined.
That's all I wanted to do.
You know, one day I was with Billy Graham.
It was his last crusade, and it was in New York.
It was in Flushing.
And look, he's very, was old at the time.
I think he's in his, he's like headed towards 100 now.
Yeah.
And he's in a wheelchair.
And then all of a sudden, it was rally time.
Right.
And I watched him.
It's like a force drove him up the stairs behind that podium.
Absolutely.
And I watched you too.
And it's the same thing I watched with you.
All of a sudden, you're just Charlie, you're taking pictures, you're doing selfies, and then it's game time.
And you're just like, let's go.
And you start twirling that bow and boom, time to roll.
Time to do it.
You're giving advice in this book.
What do you tell people?
The first thing I tell people, you know, young people ask me, what about a music career and about how long you longevity and this sort of thing?
First thing I tell them, make sure you love it enough to put up with the sacrifices, to put up with the rejection, to put up with all your failures, what you're going to do, and to put up with people just being mean to you.
That you can put up with all of that.
Because if you have any success, people are going to be jealous of you.
They're going to try to bring you back down.
If you can't do that, if you can't put up with those people, those situations and those circumstances, stay home.
It's not the business for you.
Stay home.
Play the lounges on the weekend.
You know, come on.
Don't come out on the road and break your heart because that's going to happen to you.
I think I've learned more from my failures than my success.
Well, you do learn from your failures.
It's like burning your fingers on the stove.
Seriously, it's like I ain't going to do that no more.
No, I'm not doing that again.
Zach Brad, I heard him singing the devil the other day.
A lot of people sing.
In fact, Garth Brooks opened the Mercedes Dome in Atlanta.
Yeah.
And of all things, he did that.
He went down to Georgia for his first song.
Did he?
I was very honored.
Yeah, definitely.
But the thing is, because I know a lot of these countries, everybody loves you.
You're like the father of country music now.
I mean, I don't know if you ever, if you set out to have that happen.
Why are you able to survive the temptations on the road?
I mean, I've been out with these bands, Charlie.
A lot of girls with a lot of, well, not so many clothes on throwing themselves at these guys.
A lot of booze.
Some are doing drugs.
You never got into any of that.
Well, my career is the thing to me.
You don't go on the road to party.
That's a common misconception.
Anybody has another thing you have to understand.
If you're going to go on the road to party and pick up girls and that sort of thing, stay home.
Because you're not going to eat it.
You can do that at home.
Don't go on the road and ruin your career.
Maybe they don't like the girls in town, Charlie.
I don't know.
I've seen so many careers ruined from drugs.
It all kind of works together after a while.
People get alcohol habit or drug habit or they just fall apart.
They take their focus off of what they love.
And all of a sudden, they're doing stuff that they're doing.
But everybody thinks that you want to party with them in the city that you're in.
They don't even want to party with me anymore.
So how many dates are you going to do this year?
We'll do 102, 10 Grando Lopry appearances and a couple of charity things.
Well, but you know, that sounds like a lot.
But actually, I can handle that.
There's no problem.
102 is a piece of cake, Creo.
Basically, it's not a piece of cake, but it's about, we're getting up to about the limit right there.
But yeah, accountant at Grando.
You know, when you're a member of the Grando Loppy, they want you to do 10 shows a year.
So I have so much respect for the thing I do.
You know, I got to MC that once.
Yes, sir.
That was an honor.
Wouldn't you come back and do it again?
I have come out and asked me to Grand O'Lopery.
Charlie, every time, listen, it was such a great honor.
I would sing the devil with you.
Yes.
And I butchered the song.
It don't matter.
Did you notice that?
It matters to me.
Did you notice I was leading the band?
We were playing with you instead.
You had to sing with us.
I think you're probably right.
There was one day I missed an entire verse of the song.
And I'm like, and you look at me, you look at your band members, and you're laughing.
And there's nothing I could do at that point.
But, Sean, do you realize what an incredible charge our crowds got?
That was the last song we do, remember?
It's always the other song.
And we go build up to that.
And all of a sudden, Sean Hannity comes out and gets, and you were like, you look like Garth Brooks jumping on the bike stage, jumping on the drum stand, running all over the stage.
You know, but they got the crowd got such.
How many people got to hear that?
Now, how many people?
Only the people we played for, you were live that got to hear Sean Hannity do double went down to Georgia.
Which, by the way, I'll tell everybody, it's on YouTube.
It's all over the place.
That's good.
And I have looked at it myself.
You know, over these many years, it's been my honor.
It really has to get to know you.
And every time I call, just, Charlie, I need you for, we're raising money.
We need you here.
We need you here.
We need you.
You're always there.
You have been a mentor, a life mentor, an example for all of us.
I love your music.
I love who you are more as a person than anything else.
I love this book, by the way.
Never look at the empty seats.
Just out today.
It's on Hannity.com.
It's on Amazon.com.
It's in bookstores everywhere.
And it's always a pleasure to see you, my friends.
God bless you always.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Never look at the empty seats.
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